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@peachpixiedust
9 ай бұрын
I'll die on this hill with you Nikki, age gaps need this conversation so bad. As someone who was groomed at 14, I can't even date someone 5 years older than me at this point, people have told me I'm weird or making a big deal out of nothing for turning down a 26y/o when I was 20. I genuinely can't be around older men who show interest in me it makes my skin crawl
@peachpixiedust
9 ай бұрын
I would absolutely watch a part two !!
@kezia8027
9 ай бұрын
just a reminder to everyone, unless your DOCTOR with an actual medical degree says you need vitamins, then you are literally wasting your money. Vitamins are one of the biggest medical scams in the world, with a markup of hundreds to thousands of percent compared to generic versions you can get from a grocery store. Don't waste your money on vitamins, just go to your Doctor and follow their advice.
@Ilovefelines
9 ай бұрын
Do a part two and you should especially talk about Charlie Heatons relationship with an adult while he was 18 or something and groomed him into having a child. It’s so sad
@radicalpaprika1720
9 ай бұрын
BEGGING for that part 2 🙏
@zarinapena5846
8 ай бұрын
Lil fun fact about Priscilla: Jacob Elordi got casted for his menancing aura and his overpowering height. The purprose was making Elvis visually more predatory.
@kayland.5724
8 ай бұрын
Lol he is quite menacing isn't he?
@zarinapena5846
8 ай бұрын
@@kayland.5724 He can bring that seriousness and uncomfortable aura, besides his height making him more terrifying, I understand why they have casted him as Frankenstein's Monster for an upcoming movie.
@gildanonofyabiznez6430
8 ай бұрын
Jacob would have killed that role tbh
@mirandabee2323
8 ай бұрын
Clever casting, then!
@niteblooms
8 ай бұрын
I watched an interview they did with him and the star of Priscilla, and he was hunching and stood with his legs far apart to appear shorter. I thought it was sweet and thoughtful he knows that his height can be intimidating.
@glitchedphoenix7521
8 ай бұрын
if your "soulmate" is 14 theres something very very wrong with you
@justjoannak
8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@zapazap
8 ай бұрын
Ones soulmate had to be 14 at one point.
@celestedivine131
7 ай бұрын
@@zapazap sure, if you were between the age of 12 and 16 while they did so, yes
@zapazap
7 ай бұрын
@@celestedivine131 Even if not, one's soulmate had to be 14 at one point. There are no exceptions to my claim. If your soulmate is currently over 14, your soulmate *had* to be 14 at one point. It makes no diffference the age differential. It is of mathematical necessiy. No 'ifs' about it.
@ULTIMATEINUYASHAFAN
7 ай бұрын
the point is if you are a !grown adult! and u claim ur sulfate is a 14 year old kid, didn't think that would go over anyone's head omg
@its_me_danii
6 ай бұрын
the fact that the comment section is DIVIDED on this matter is genuinely concerning.
@fatimahanwaar306
6 ай бұрын
both sides are the problem since they are defending age gap relationships in different ways: misogynists are using the "it has happened since the beginning of time" argument and using "biology" as an excuse as well as the "men want beauty and fertility women want protection and financial stability" argument while pseudo-feminists are defending age gap relationships with the "brain development" argument and preaching "Love is Love" and using the "consenting adults" argument as well as preaching "it's none of your business!" both are toxic
@GirlyFish42069
5 ай бұрын
Well, to be fair, calling an 18-year-old dating a 22-year-old "sus" is pretty "chronically online"-ish, especially considering Taylor Swift has received a lot of sexist hate over the years for the stupidest things.
@yoyo777
4 ай бұрын
@kittiemartinez4431 if -1 makes you illegal than the relationship is kinda messed up.
@GirlyFish42069
4 ай бұрын
@@yoyo777 LOL get a grip
@cannedcan9788
4 ай бұрын
@@GirlyFish42069 No, it really is not. When you are 18 the biggest gap between you and your partner should be 3 years max, until you are like 23-25 you still grow sooo much mentally every single year, even if you do not notice it.
@Martykun36
9 ай бұрын
seeing a creator feel the need to explain who Elvis is has been the biggest reality check in a while for me
@Bluman2
9 ай бұрын
I don't think Elvis is any less ubiquitous than he ever has been, it's just good practice to give background on things in your videos whether or not you think everyone knows about it
@osmanyousif7849
9 ай бұрын
That he’s a villain? Because I guess that makes Colonel Parker the hero all along.
@Error4x5
9 ай бұрын
Elvis has been dead for almost 50 years. Meaning millions have no clue who he is now a days
@LukeKido
9 ай бұрын
@@Error4x5 Sure, I was born in 92 and the only thing I know about him is he engaged and married with a kid/teen and used to eat a sandwich called fool's gold. Although I'm aware he's considered the king of some music genre (can't remember which now), have never been exposed to his music. Just for context I'm from Brazil, so guess my ancestors were too engaged in Bossa Nova at the time and I can't blame them, it's too good. *King of rock
@caseyd9471
9 ай бұрын
For me it was 'the twist no one saw coming' about Woody Allen's sketchy behavior.
@vikkirademacher2039
7 ай бұрын
The weird age gap wasn’t even the biggest problem with No Hard Feelings for me. It was the fact that she was constantly pressuring her to engage in sexual acts when he very clearly was uncomfortable. It was so weird.
@eminafetahovic9762
6 ай бұрын
To be fair i watched it yesterday and she was kinda pushy but when she saw he was uncomfortable or unhappy or sth happened and he didnt want to she was kind to him and didnt push further.
@sebastianrioux
5 ай бұрын
& the fact the parents were so obsessed with their son having sex that they directly intervene in the creepiest of ways ?? Ick
@ultimatefinalgirl
5 ай бұрын
Dude, to me BOTH things are weird, you just can't date a very young guy at that stage of your life..
@xmoreno3366
5 ай бұрын
creppy
@Mizushimeee
5 ай бұрын
No but his parents are also pressuring her to get into him is so icky
@hayliekendall7995
8 ай бұрын
im a teacher and I HATE how the student teacher relationship thing is always fetishistic and romanticized in tv. so yes I would love to see a video about that because people don't talk about it aloot
@lenocturnefan4258
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, even in school! At least in mine, I had to read a book about a relationship like that in 9th grade. I remember it was more of an guardianship relationship instead of a teacher-student one, though, but it doesn't make it any less iffy.
@kaleidoscloop
7 ай бұрын
The power dynamic is gross and the fallout never ends well.
@sittinginbushes
5 ай бұрын
I hate seeing it even in fanfiction, it makes me sick to my stomach. why is it so fricking popular (I know why but still ew)
@Mizushimeee
5 ай бұрын
Literally in a show called riverdale where theres a teenage boy who got groomed by his teacher and have sex and that sht was so creepy to me. And the show didn’t even mentioned it was p3dophilic, they even mock the boy for it
@UnicornsPoopRainbows
3 ай бұрын
@Mizushimeee Riverdale is TERRIBLE. The showrunner basically used the characters like his dolls, living out his fantasies. He does the same for each show he is involved in. Netflix's Sabrina wasn't too bad but the s3x scenes felt very forced and unnecessary. Literally did nothing for the plot.
@donotlendbookstome7923
5 ай бұрын
There were never any incidents where my dad was grossly sexually inappropriate towards me, but “Roman Polanski did nothing wrong” was the hill he wanted to die on, and when I was 13, his insistence that I was a full fucking adult basically groomed me for predators. The thing that saved me, ironically, was stealing his battered paperback copy of Lolita; because as fucked as every subsequent adaptation - including those authored by Nabokov himself - were, the original text functioned very, very well as an indictment of any adult who would’ve been interested in me at the age of 13. (But apparently, that was not a point my dad took away from the novel, or from the experience of literally being my parent.) TL/dr: My dad fucking sucks and I no longer speak to him, but reading Lolita at 13 served to warn me away from adults who sexualized me.
@nomoerr
5 ай бұрын
Man, I hope ure doing okay. It's really tragic to have a family member u've spent years of ur life with have immoral beliefs.
@soaringspirits2267
3 ай бұрын
Hot damn. I hope bro is ok now. Going through those realizations are. So awful.
@down-kg8mt
2 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry❤
@roboticgays
2 ай бұрын
good ur going ok now and i agree with u literally all of the movie adaptations of lolita depicy HER as the initiator and its frustrating
@becausejustbecause.5407
2 ай бұрын
Had a similar, but not nearly as bad experience with my own dad. Don't know if he realized what he was saying or what he meant by it, but he basically stated that since I am formally recognized by the church (AKA I chose to go through confirmation at 15, bc I like the singing part of going to church, and our priest is chill), I am basically an adult. He never did anything, but sometimes, again very rarely, there'd be some weird short comments that I just don't like. Creeped me out a little, especially bc he didn't only say it once, but I might've turned paranoid because of the internet and stuff? I am both very trusting and very suspicious of everything, so I both think everyone has an ulterior motive at the same time as I think everything is sunshine and rainbows. A very confusing pair.
@joshrandolph7718
8 ай бұрын
A 10 year age gap is definitely NOT a problem, the problem is the ages they are when they are dating, 14 and 24 is bad and problematic, but 30 and 40 is NOT bad or problematic
@mahismelodies3685
7 ай бұрын
...yes, yes it is
@k00ki3izkrazy
7 ай бұрын
@@mahismelodies3685how so ? There’s a huge difference between 2 full grown adults and one that’s barely an adult and the other is.
@joshrandolph7718
7 ай бұрын
@@mahismelodies3685 No, it's not. If you say a 30 year old woman can't make their own decision to date a 40 year old man then your basically saying "all women are children who aren't mature or responsible enough to make their own dating decisions". She's a grown woman, not someone who just turned 18.
@biezom.
7 ай бұрын
@@mahismelodies3685 wait until u find out about most parents 💀
@ChocolateisIsNice
7 ай бұрын
@@mahismelodies3685 Nah 30 and 40 is fine. If you have a problem with that too you're just judgemental.
@kayland.5724
8 ай бұрын
I *hate* when people are willing to accept predatory behavior when it's someone attractive or when it's an older woman with a younger - boy. *Edit:* y'all - *sigh* my friends, I'm not talking about lgbtqia+ right now. If I was, I would've said so.
@catfart.
8 ай бұрын
now do women with younger women and men with younger men. Its more common than you think!
@carelessdreamer
8 ай бұрын
@@catfart.Unfortunately, older men are overrepresented whether it’s young men or young women. Because those types of “relationships” are based on feelings of power rather than affection or even attraction. It’s nice here that the call me by your name section mentioned that anyone can be creepy
@catfart.
8 ай бұрын
@@carelessdreamer What drugs are you on?
@carelessdreamer
8 ай бұрын
@@catfart. Statistics? I think you missed what I was saying, but the comment was rambling so I get it. Just mentioning the most common offenders seen when it comes to that type of abuse.
@Batman-ux1nf
8 ай бұрын
its called being a milf
@sexiest_mfs_alive4253
8 ай бұрын
A 14 year old would not be a sophomore, they would be a freshman or a 8th grader. So to put it that into prospective, Elvis was a 24 year old dating a 8th or 9th grader…
@Gh0stcrumbsofficial
8 ай бұрын
She was a 9th grader
@tomodachiotaku8004
8 ай бұрын
Everything was fine until you called Priscilla a girl, she wasn't a girl, she was a very vulnerable immature teenager, yes, but that doesn't make her a girl, really, if you are going to report something, use the correct terms.
@Gh0stcrumbsofficial
8 ай бұрын
@@tomodachiotaku8004 why does it matter bro?💀 Also nowhere in my comment did I call her a girl. All I said was she was in 9th grade
@ghoultooth
8 ай бұрын
@@tomodachiotaku8004Being a teenager means she is not an adult woman, therefore: a girl. It isn’t offensive to use correct terminology. Really, we should stop referring to children as adults because it makes cases like this a lot more “Oh, but it’s a man and a woman!” No. She was a girl and he was a man and that was not okay.
@melanierodriguez3810
8 ай бұрын
I agree with your point, but I was also a 14 year old sophomore, BUT I’ve also seen 15 year old 8th graders (entered school late)
@kyliesmith2004
8 ай бұрын
Saying that "times were different" is a bull crap excuse. In the 1950s٫ the family show Leave it to Beaver has an episode where Wally٫ a teenage minor٫ dates an adult woman. This is treated VERY seriously by his family and friends and Wally is played as a victim throughout the episode. People know when things are wrong.
@hermanubis96
8 ай бұрын
knowing that something is wrong doesn't mean that it doesn't happen in real life still. art should be made on things that are problematic about real life to create a conversation about it. if you think a movie or a work of fiction showing something problematic means it's endorsing it, then you're too stupid to understand art.
@kyliesmith2004
8 ай бұрын
@@hermanubis96 depiction and normalization are two VERY different things. Leave it to Beaver was a show aimed at children and families, so they had a responsibility to show grooming as wrong. It's the same thing with media aimed at teenagers.
@hermanubis96
8 ай бұрын
@@kyliesmith2004 it’s not the movie’s fault if social media teenagers miss the point because the actors are attractive. people missing the point doesn’t mean that the movie is attempting normalization
@karanaher5030
8 ай бұрын
@@hermanubis96The movies were attempting normalization. Hollywood has a massive pedophile problem, be it old celebrities in their 30s dating teens or celebrities being a regulers of Epstein's island.
@ithinkiwoulddie9196
8 ай бұрын
Also people back then married young- as in like two 17 year olds getting married, not 14 marrying a 27 year old. My great grandmother married at 17 but her husband was also around her age.
@Sid.Hyeana
5 ай бұрын
Grooming with celebrity's is very often over looked, especially male victims. One notable person is Aaron taylor-johnson, he was 17 when he met his future wife of 45. She was a director on a film he was acting in. They started dating when he turned 18.
@GirlyFish42069
5 ай бұрын
She actually knew him since he was 6 but waited until he was 18 to baby-trap him.
@soaringspirits2267
3 ай бұрын
Oh good gosh. The reply is further horrifying.
@VeryMidArt_Tehe
Ай бұрын
45-18=27 27 YEAR AGE GAP. THAT IS WILD
@sassymermaid_101
Ай бұрын
@@soaringspirits2267 I second that
@DarlingS.A.M
Ай бұрын
@@GirlyFish42069 I did not think it could get worse but it just did with a few words... These types of people shouldn't exist
@britb7187
7 ай бұрын
The author of Call Me By Your Name said he finds 12 y/o girls attractive soooo i think that says everything i need to know about him and his work
@EzraOli
6 ай бұрын
IM SORRY WHAT???? 😀
@kaileighmarie3032
6 ай бұрын
NO BC HUH?
@Bebe_Birde
6 ай бұрын
No that film is so nasty bro
@lulianjuliuswassbach
6 ай бұрын
Dude, the author is literally known for being scandalous. There's no proof he ever started anything with a 12-year-old.
@kaileighmarie3032
6 ай бұрын
@@lulianjuliuswassbach it said he finds them attractive, not they had anything to do with each other sexually.
@DaileyDoseOfJoseph
8 ай бұрын
"times were different back then" is just as good as "boys will be boys"
@justjoannak
8 ай бұрын
Agreed
@zapazap
8 ай бұрын
There was a time when courtships had parental oversight.
@247Barcaro
8 ай бұрын
Nope ." Back then" means they were dumb, we know more now. "BWBB" means that's just how it is, it's useless to try and change it.
@trekkiejunk
7 ай бұрын
That's not at all the same. Times WERE different. But additionally, culture is not a monolith based on the year. Just like today, different cultures all over America (and the world) have different standards of morality. And to ignore the heavy influence of your childhood, you church, your community, your school, your parents, etc in the formation of your personal ethics and acceptance of societal standards is completely naive. I'm a socialist, atheist, pacifist, pro-LGBT queer guy. There are countless people that agree with most of my ethics, and countless more people who disagree with them. And to pretend like Mississippi and Tennessee in the 1930's, 40's and 50's (when Elvis was growing up) was not a society that accepted a lot of different standards than we expect today is just complete ignorance of reality.
@gaylittlegoblin
7 ай бұрын
@@247Barcaro its useless to try to change abuse, rape, grooming and sexual assault? cuz thats the only time people say "boys will be boys"
@GayForShinHati
9 ай бұрын
My parents have a nine year age gap. To adults, age gaps become less of a big deal when they’re adults. But at that note, my parents didn’t even know each other until they were both adults. Even my parents will agree, a 14 year old dating a grown ass man is not okay.
@fortytwo4-2
9 ай бұрын
yeah, like a 35 year old dating a 45 year old really doesn't matter as long as they're both consenting adults.
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy
9 ай бұрын
Exactly, some gaps definitely change depending on the stages of life….for example, a 15 and 20 year old dating is inappropriate af, but a 20 and 25 year old isn’t a very big deal, or a 23 and 28 yr old, ext.
@thelingeringartist
9 ай бұрын
@@livvyyyyyyyyyyyI dunno… those still seem iffy to me. I feel like still even between the age of 20-25 there’s still development going on in peoples brains at that age… or trying to get adjusted… idk.
@livvyyyyyyyyyyy
9 ай бұрын
@@thelingeringartist ok yea 20-25 is fair, I see that now. 23-27 or 25-30 and stuff seems fine.
@DorothyOHumdrum
9 ай бұрын
@@thelingeringartistpeople 18 -25 are adults but theyre still finding themselves, so the ethical concerns of age gap relationships for these people depends on a case by case basis, but generally high schoolers should always be off limits for sex/romance doesnt matter if theyre 18 or 19 theyre stuck in a institution designed for children
@ChristopherRosales-f1p
5 ай бұрын
I saw Call Me By Your Name in theatres and was uncomfortable the entire time. When people clapped at the end and said how much they liked it i was mind boggled.... weird experience.
@hannah-kv8bd
8 ай бұрын
I feel like age gaps are fine most of the time as long as you meet when YOURE BOTH GROWN ADULTS the problem with these is that one person is always a literal child
@christiantrent1030
8 ай бұрын
There's people who meet in highschool with age gaps of 17-18 or 18-16, thats not uncommon or weird at all. what WOULD be weird is meeting someone who's outside highschool with an age gap of 17 and 20.
@hannah-kv8bd
8 ай бұрын
@@christiantrent1030 yea, I meant more like larger age gaps, you’re totally right about smaller ones
@christiantrent1030
8 ай бұрын
@jerms_mcerms9231 I guess but that’s not what the laws are? And what do you mean “being an adult is changing in the legal sense” what is your proof of this. I do still agree tho that 18 imo is still technically a kid or “young adult”
@beththedarkmage3359
8 ай бұрын
I think they want some specifics so they can find the exact data you're talking about, most people on YT are aware direct links and sources get flagged by the moderator bots. Things like what country you're talking about, whether this information is on a government website or not, and which laws specifically (eg., alcohol, cigarette or energy drink use or sale). Any of that could help with further study :) We all have bad days, but bringing up a point and then getting mad at someone when they wanna learn more isn't very kind, please reconsider next time.@jerms_mcerms9231
@christiantrent1030
8 ай бұрын
@jerms_mcerms9231 because you made a statement? If your gonna make statements like what you said then you should back it up atleast when asked, if you don’t want to fine but I was legit just asking.
@MistySophie
8 ай бұрын
"Call me by your name" always made me uncomfortable. I remember my friends fangirling over it because it was 2 boys, while I only saw an age gap and a sus relationship
@noxart2410
8 ай бұрын
Saaamme!!! I was so sure that this was the aim tbh. I was uncomfortable for the whole movie and thought that this was what was expected of the viewer. You can imagine my surprise when I went on the internet afterwards haha 😅
@lonnekaward
8 ай бұрын
Same, my old friend loooved it, but the whole premise just made me feel weird. We even had arguments over it?!
@zeleor6954
8 ай бұрын
Same, I’m a queer person and I CANNOT stand this movie. But I do know my cishet childhood friend likes it 💀
@gr4ys0nq
8 ай бұрын
frrr. it just pisses me off that gay representation in film almost always has to be so creepy or stereotyped😭
@lycheemyusic
8 ай бұрын
yall that one song about two guys being in a relationship (montero) i wonder if it references this in the lyrics. :/
@stephaniem2071
8 ай бұрын
One of the MANY good things that BoJack Horseman does is call out this behavior (especially with celebrities), how messed up it is, and the effects it has on the victims and the perpetrators. SPOILERS: When Penny (17) and BoJack (in his 40s by then) almost have sex, Charlotte (Penny's mom) catches them and immediately cuts ties with BoJack, making him lose someone who he loved for years. As time went on, we saw that that night had a negative effect on Penny as she matured, realizing how messed up it was. "I was 17, I didn't know any better." It even bites BoJack in the back later on during his interview and relationships with others.
@Gh0stcrumbsofficial
8 ай бұрын
I still see people trying to justify it by saying PENNY was the one who took advantage of him
@BeccaGhusn
8 ай бұрын
@@Gh0stcrumbsofficial what the fuck?
@MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCat
7 ай бұрын
YES! The point of Bojack is not to idolise him. It is an explanation of how a person spirals down so hard, not an excuse. The moment you relate with Bojack, you are supposed to seek help and take accountability, as he does towards the end of the show.
@theannoyingdog
7 ай бұрын
Not to mention sarah-lynn who he was literally a father figure to when she was like 10
@icravedeath.1200
7 ай бұрын
@@MyFatherLooksLikeAPallasCati haven't watched it yet but my bro said that bojack is 'a fucking mess' personified, I've seen a few episodes and i agree with him.
@milk8914
6 ай бұрын
My mom dated a 25 yr old when she was only 14 in the late 70s. She even ran away with him for months and my grandparents allowed this. She still to this day acts like the whole thing was normal, but she is extremely mentally dysfunctional and suffered with addictions her whole life. Times were different, but there's is a reason times changed. People now understand the long term damage of these types of relationships.
@giotheflow
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmcneal5292fbi open up
@crazyducklady5500
6 ай бұрын
@@jimmcneal5292 A 14 yr old dating a 25 yr old is not normal...
@jimmcneal5292
5 ай бұрын
@@crazyducklady5500 it is. And should become legal again(and it will, the only question is when)
@jimmcneal5292
5 ай бұрын
@@haleyfowler193 crazy pietists will always exist, all we, sane people, can do is to ignore those
@crazyducklady5500
5 ай бұрын
@@jimmcneal5292 So, its normal for a full adult to date a barely teenager?
@fathertedczynski
9 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you included examples of different gendered relationships. This isn't an issue involving creepy old men with a young girl (although most of them are), but a deep-rooted issue that can exist in any relationship. There are also so many films that play down other power imbalances, but ones involving age gaps are particularly poignant.
@xeniaa777
8 ай бұрын
@@horse3987 that's literally what they said, read their comment again
@horse3987
8 ай бұрын
@chogboogus nah, just the comment is worded so wrong
@Mizu-AM
8 ай бұрын
also the creepy women who date younger teens... but for some reason get overlooked
@Danimal4321
8 ай бұрын
You're being ridiculous
@trashcan7594
8 ай бұрын
@@Mizu-AM unfortunately incels will overlook those kinds of "relationships" as long as the woman in question is conventionally attractive
@abizzarecyph
9 ай бұрын
I feel like it's very intentional that almost all of the fiction age gaps have the younger character as a 17yo. it's an age that is easier for people to excuse because of how close it is to being a legal adult, but it's still young enough to be able to say stuff like "I'm/you're dating a high schooler"
@darkstarr984
9 ай бұрын
There are high schoolers who are 18 and 19 though, so I don’t know why they don’t do something like that, or the teenager has been emancipated and is graduating early. It’s got interesting story potential.
@snethies
9 ай бұрын
@@darkstarr984probably because they want them to still be considered a minor
@prosperenfantinylosgeograf2721
9 ай бұрын
@@darkstarr984 And tbh I also find it weird when it's like, it's okay the moment they are 18. Like you do not become unimaginably wiser the day you turn 18. 18-40 would be gross to me lol. Age gaps should still be small until approx 21 imo. I feel like if at 22 you wanna date a 40yo you have more experience and agency and stuff.
@ÖVËR-p2h
9 ай бұрын
Fr dude even if they are 18 I would still be weirded out of sum1 older than like 22 tried to date them. Like how is it okay that the day they turn 18 they're allowed to date anybody way older than them. I feel like 19 should be the norm of dating older ppl cuz at least at that point you'd be out of high school.
@Laura-fd7ej
9 ай бұрын
Yes, thanks for bringing that on point!
@niles8102
8 ай бұрын
Also, Pochahontas was a child when John Smith met her! Disney has a BUNCH of their tales depict these romances but they turn a blind eye at the fact that a lot of the Disney princesses were literally children in reality!
@Gh0stcrumbsofficial
8 ай бұрын
Snow White being 14 threw me for a loop because my entire childhood I thought she was a grown woman. So many Disney princesses are kids that date grown men. Like Flynn Rider and Rapunzel are 18 and 26, Rapunzel being 17 when they meet. It’s genuinely so disgusting to realize how many of our favorite childhood stories have these kinds of aspects about them. I have a hard time watching Disney nowadays because of the fact
@LjuboCupic1912
8 ай бұрын
@@Gh0stcrumbsofficial I don't think it would be wild to assume that they're aged up in the Disney versions. Snow White certainly doesn't look 14.
@lovelysartstudio8299
8 ай бұрын
@@LjuboCupic1912Disney ages her up to 14. The original story, Snow White was 7
@LjuboCupic1912
8 ай бұрын
@@lovelysartstudio8299 Jesus… so we have a relationship between a seven year old and a thirty year old in one version, which is layers on top of layers of fucked up, and a fourteen year old and an eighteen year old in the other, which isn’t as fucked up but is still really bad. Fantastic.
@starrsmith3810
8 ай бұрын
@@Gh0stcrumbsofficiali don’t think the prince is actually 31. At most probably 18, which okay that’s still weird but 31 is kinda an over exasperation. Flynn and Rapunzel don’t start dating until she’s 18. Plus Disney deaged Flynn a little bit in the series which admittedly if they really cared that much about the age difference, they should’ve just had him be 23 from the get go.
@Oceanebey
5 ай бұрын
Fun fact, Emanuel Macron (the president of France) is married with his teacher ( Brigitte Macron)
@Romantic_Juliet
3 ай бұрын
Sounds very "fun"- 🫥
@meanpeppershaker5743
3 сағат бұрын
We do indeed take the piss out of him time and again for that yeah...
@sophiita8711
8 ай бұрын
I remember reading Call me by your name and throw it away when I found out about the age gap. I was 14 and watching people say "in Italy it's legal if he's older than 14" actually scared me.
@cl8804
8 ай бұрын
obviously it's legal; only these jewnited shitholes of america has an AoC at 18, yikes
@highdefinition450
8 ай бұрын
sell it back, don't throw away books lol
@sophiita8711
8 ай бұрын
@@highdefinition450 it was just a saying, no books were harmed in this story
@zaja2418
8 ай бұрын
Did you, by chance, get called a homophobe? Some people got real defensive when I pointed out to them that a grown man having sex with a teenager was... problematic, to say the least. I asked them if they would change their minds were this a movie depicting a heterosexual pair, and they just called me a bigot, lol.
@remuslupiin
8 ай бұрын
@@zaja2418as a gay person, anyone who says that ur a bigot or a homophobe for calling out how weird the relationship was, is not right in the head. whether its a homosexual or heterosexual relationship with that type of age gap, its still weird!
@brookecroff7166
9 ай бұрын
woody allen writing a movie for himself where he plays a pedophile is 0% shocking but wow that is unabashed
@straww_berryyy
9 ай бұрын
Everything i learned about that man has been against my will but holy fuck does he creep me out
@DecoraGarfoid
9 ай бұрын
I was listening to this video. Then I finally looked and OF COURSE it's Woody Allen 🤣😭
@moderna73
9 ай бұрын
It gets worse when you hear about the behind the scenes on this movie. The actress playing the 17 year was underage and he tried to get her to go to Paris with him but wouldn’t get her a separate hotel room so she turned him down. After she turned him down he went back and wrote an intimate love scene so he could cop the feels without her refusing. Just disgusting,
@goodbher9244
9 ай бұрын
Woody Allen wrote MULTIPLE movies about men bangin' kids. He's gross.
@TjokoCow
9 ай бұрын
This only bothers me because YES Woody allen is a terrible gremlin boy, his movies are good because they talk about why he acts the way he does (lonely/reclusive/stepdaughterdatingsim) And also there are some cute movies
@kyleigh3299
4 ай бұрын
I'd say that comparing the statements "Elvis groomed Priscilla" and "the Earth is round" is actually very accurate, since both are true but if you say them you run the risk of having some *truly* annoying, vile, and just plain ridiculous people trying to argue with you about it and being *extremely* attached to their weird, wrong opinions
@saphireblue3563
Ай бұрын
Elvis did not groom Priscilla. He left her in Germany at 14, didn't see her again until she was 16, then didn't see her again until she was two months short of 18. She spent her teenage years in Germany dating a slew of different guys.
@roach-sama3503
Ай бұрын
@@saphireblue3563ur literally the person the comment is talking about lmao
@saphireblue3563
Ай бұрын
@@roach-sama3503 Well my husband was 13 years older than me. It had absolutely no bearing on anything. No effect whatsoever.
@KuKu_frog
Ай бұрын
@@saphireblue3563ur just proving ur weird with this statement 😭
@saphireblue3563
Ай бұрын
@@KuKu_frog I don't go the way the wind blows. I have to have a logical reason to believe something.
@Cloudystxrr
9 ай бұрын
tbh lolita (the book) is actually a really good representation of grooming. it's disclosed in the beginning that it's written from the perspective of the predator and that he is an unreliable narrator. it gives insight into the way this guy thinks. the movie totally erases all of that and romanticizes a book that isn't supposed to be a romance. same thing with killing stalking; its a horror manhwa but for some reason people romanticize it and act like its a romance.
@bunny.ribbit
9 ай бұрын
people who think “killing stalking” is a romance are unhinged.
@starlit-rain
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for mentioning both of these. It drives me crazy how people do not understand their obvious true meaning and choose to believe it's ""romance"" 💀
@1000huzzahs
9 ай бұрын
"Lolita Podcast" is so good. It can be a difficult listen but it's SO IMPORTANT in terms of properly understanding the book. The people who glorify works like that are telling on themselves so hard. I think even the original French publisher was like "I hope this helps people see that relationships like this can be acceptable."
@VickiB-h9k
9 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@VickiB-h9k
9 ай бұрын
isn't everyone unhinged in someway. @@bunny.ribbit
@sighcantthinkofaname
9 ай бұрын
Another version of this trope is the one-episode one off in sitcoms, "Women in her 20's sleeps with a 17 year old and is embarrassed when she learned his age" It happens in Friends, Greek, and Emily in Paris.
@84rinne_moo
9 ай бұрын
Thank you!! That is SOOO weird to me!!
@bluueorb
9 ай бұрын
Or “woman who is married and bangs the gardener and he ends up being a highschooler and somehow it’s on the younger guy for being ‘in the middle of the marriage’ when dude is a child” (Desperate Housewives)
@chikentendersandfries
9 ай бұрын
@@bluueorbWHAT
@liviemillie6455
9 ай бұрын
yeeah you really need to know someone's age BEFORE you sleep with them ...
@suspiciousstar7547
9 ай бұрын
It's insane how people even DO ANYTHING with someone they don't even know of, let alone the AGES. It's just so weird...
@shambhavi3349
9 ай бұрын
Call Me By Your Name has always just seemed similar to Lolita to me... its sad how people will actually ignore men being groomed (by men or women) and act like its the most romantic thing in the world
@moonyyuu8834
9 ай бұрын
I totally get what people mean when they say relationships like this are immoral or wrong in their eyes. But to completely bash the legality of it regardless of the country it's from simply provides a sense of unreasonable pride. America is not the only continent, and in fact, holds the least influence on the rest of the world. I seriously don't know where we came up with the idea that if America says it, it goes. No matter what your point is, it should never be okay to consider the laws of another nation unacceptable (except if it's tyranny in a way). At the end of the day, Elio and Oliver's relationship is completely legal and there is absolutely nothing we Americans can do about it. Leave it alone. You can comment on our problems but not the laws of another country, continent, or nation. That is just straight up disrespectful, and I couldn't care less of the point you'd be trying to make if you'd have to come to ignorance like that to make it. Disgusting.
@OreoCookieCrumble
9 ай бұрын
@@moonyyuu8834Dude they're not even talking about laws. Get bent bot
@z.s.r.h
8 ай бұрын
@@moonyyuu8834no gay people can be groomed just as easily as anyone else. i'm sorry but even if it's legal it doesn't make it moral lol.
@moonyyuu8834
8 ай бұрын
@@OreoCookieCrumble I'm not flexible enough for that.
@shambhavi3349
8 ай бұрын
@@moonyyuu8834 i get your point but im not american and also im 17, i couldn't even imagine dating a 24 year old... that just seems wrong and illegal... im in highschool and a 24 year old has graduated from high school and college and probably has a job, so they are 2 phases of life ahead of me (if that makes sense), hence they are bound to be much more mature than me. I mean at the end of the movie, Elio was the one left crying, wondering if what they had was even real, while Oliver just gets to move on with his life and get married, further showing how Elio is young and less experienced with "flings" while for oliver, it was just a fling. I dont think anyone can justify a full grown adult wanting to mingle with a kid who's in/ barely out of highschool... just because some cultures are still okay with it (saying this as a person of another culture) doesnt mean its right
@zackreagin8384
5 ай бұрын
Also disturbing is how many men there are who feel like there's no problem with an older woman commiting statutory rape with an underage boy if they find the woman attractive. I've heard many guys make comments like "lucky guy" in response to news stories about high school teachers having sex with students.
@moonie_str
2 ай бұрын
frrr like wtf do you mean 'lucky' that's traumatising for many people. You should be supporting them, not down playing a horrific situation
@STAYGENEAYEDOMINO125
Ай бұрын
@@moonie_strfr
@EternalHunter420
Ай бұрын
Uhmm maybe cause the boy consented to what was happening and was himself proud of doing it ? Now if he was complaining about it then yeah that’s fucked up. But you can’t say “rape” when the kid is consenting to what he’s aware of doing.
@kristat8176
Ай бұрын
Yes it's not okay
@somnumisdumb
Ай бұрын
@@EternalHunter420 what if the boy was brainwashed to consent? how about that?? just say you defend pedos and get lost
@spicoli_1117
9 ай бұрын
The fact that the author of CMBYN in that interview quote talks about how he shouldn't tell anyone about his attraction to twelve year-old girls and then proceeds to out himself in an interview. There's nothing better than these creeps outing themselves.
@Lemoncakelover678
9 ай бұрын
This is one of the reasons why I'm confused as to how the LGBT community holds cmbyn as something special when it's just a creepy relationship no one needed
@Aelffwynn
9 ай бұрын
@@Lemoncakelover678 I'm sure some lgbt+ folks do, but I don't know anyone personally who does, if that helps you feel better?
@Robyn-yc5md
9 ай бұрын
@@Lemoncakelover678 Honestly I don't think as many people in the community like it as much as it seems, I think a big part of its popularity grew from a straight audience but I just speculate that based on how it was talked about at the time of its release. But also normalization of age gaps still happens with lgbt folks just like it does straight ones
@jijitters
9 ай бұрын
@@Lemoncakelover678 Most of the people who love that movie are not LGBT+ tbh. CMBYN is one of those movies straight people uphold as some dramatic, artistic portrayal about how tragic it is to be gay. They also love Brokeback Mountain and Moonlight. Now, both of those are good movies, but I'm just saying there's an obvious subcategory of gay movie that straight people prefer over all else. Straight people don't love gay comedies.
@Lemoncakelover678
9 ай бұрын
@@Aelffwynnif that's the case then I'm glad though for me, I always see people praise this movie both straight and gay and it will continue to confuse me
@kaylawaye
9 ай бұрын
Scott Pilgrim really hits me hard personally. Right after I turned 18 I started dating a guy in his 20s that got me into our local punk scene. I'd go to all of his shows and he'd get me into 21+ up shows because I was with the band. Everyone openly joked about our relationship, but no one seriously criticized him or warned me. That turned into the most toxic relationship of my life.
@nikkicarreon
9 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry :( you’re not alone though, I understand you and so many others in this comment section. I’m so so glad you got out of that relationship and hope you’re well!
@theswissmiss69
9 ай бұрын
I‘m so sorry that happened to you.💕
@Soapy-chan
9 ай бұрын
you were 18, wtf are you on about?
@brandonsavage6958
9 ай бұрын
@@Soapy-chan Just because something is legal, doesn't mean its not morally reprehensible
@PuerRidcully
9 ай бұрын
You're a grown woman at 18. Chose better men, cause if you don't have family support no one will coddle you about it.
@toxic_masculintiy
9 ай бұрын
Lolita the book is so crazy to me because the book is a critique of western beauty standards around being youthful and looking young and also making fun of pedophiles. Like the whole reason Lolita is viewed the way it is, is A) It an unreliable narrator that is a pedophile and B) When it got published, grown men who reviewed the book said Humbert Humbert WAS THE VICTIM OF DOLORES(aka lolita). Vladimir Nobokov was very explicit too about how he wanted the book lolita to be marketed, which was it to just be a neutral color with the books name and nothing else. Once he died a lot of publishing companies started using "feminine" colors for the books, using imagery of like a girl stepping on gum, or like the copy of the book I own, a young woman's lips with cursive writing below the picture. Like Lolita is a book bullying pedophiles at best and at worst defending pedophiles
@lizdexamphetamine
9 ай бұрын
idk what publishing house moves from but there's at least one recent concert that's just a table/still life vase
@alisonmercer5946
9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of people thinking Travis in taxi driver is a hero and omg all the people who quote and admire Tony Montana 😂
@alisonmercer5946
9 ай бұрын
Tony Montana if anyone thinks he's a hero , run run run away😂😂😂 gosh if that's not a perfect example of toxic masculinity wt f is. What h e does to his sister and best friend . Yeah real aspurational dude 😅
@alisonmercer5946
9 ай бұрын
nabakov was a victim of sa
@diyasalam3742
9 ай бұрын
@@alisonmercer5946Same with people who think fight club and American psycho are movies you should live by
@Aredhel-vx4qy
4 ай бұрын
FINALLY someone acknowledging that Call me by your name is weird because of the age gap
@headphonetherapy9222
9 ай бұрын
PRISCILLA WASNT EVEN A SOPHOMORE SHE WAS LIKE FREDHMAN/8TH GRADE AGE WHICH IS LITERALLY MIDDLE SCHOOL IT MAKES ME SO MAD
@cloudoholic
9 ай бұрын
this shi got me tweaking fr 💀💀
@nameofthename
9 ай бұрын
yeah. i was in 8th grade when i was 14. started 9th grade at 14 too but turned 15 a few months after.
@khaliyahjefferson832
9 ай бұрын
@@nameofthename When I was 15 all remember was learning how to multiple double digits and crap
@Nellyc1
8 ай бұрын
POP OFFFFFF
@Gloomy199
7 ай бұрын
As a 17 year old, I had dated somebody 10 years older than me. I never once felt like there wasn’t a power imbalance. Even the way the relationship started was worthy of a police report. Seeing everybody around me nowadays talking about their admiration for Elvis breaks my heart for Priscilla. They throw her to the side so quickly and I doubt she was truly happy.
@User-g5j3k
7 ай бұрын
True it even hurts to know that Lisa Marie was against her mother telling her story in Priscilla. Lisa Marie was against the movie before she died.
@deethwarrior
6 ай бұрын
SAME i was 16 he was 23 and I'm like "WHO STILL LIKES MICHAEL JACKSON/ELVIS PRESLEY/etc.
@AlyxAesthetics
6 ай бұрын
@@deethwarrior ok now you crossed the line with michael jackson, he didnt do shit, you just believe everything negative you read,
@jackieroberts2625
6 ай бұрын
@@AlyxAestheticsdude, don't be dumb
@AlyxAesthetics
5 ай бұрын
@@jackieroberts2625 dude, dont be gullible, you just want to feel smart for "knowing" bullshit
@cassi6528
9 ай бұрын
My boomer dad has said that people weren't actually okay with Elvis and Priscilla so no, it wasn't "different" times
@angryox3102
9 ай бұрын
It was a different time in that people would let it slide back then.
@motherfudger6664
9 ай бұрын
@@angryox3102 except that some people didn't want to let it slide, as this person is saying. And they didn't let Jerry slide, so I wonder why the double-standard with Elvis.
@angryox3102
9 ай бұрын
@@motherfudger6664 I think the cousin factor is the largest issue why everyone hates Lewis. Also, Lewis (most likely) knew his cousin from her birth and things had already escalated to marriage by the time she was 13. Elvis on the other hand met Priscilla when she was 14 and things didn’t escalate to marriage until years later. I’m not trying to say that Elvis wasn’t a creep, but as far creeps go, he wasn’t as bad as Lewis. There are levels of creepiness.
@YeeterSkeeter-uw4mu
9 ай бұрын
Others were, so yes, it was “Different Times”. Especially in the Mexican communities. All of our grand parents had children at 14.
@kookyflowers4633
9 ай бұрын
YEAH UM WHAT??? no like!!! people have always known this shit was terrible, that's propaganda speaking
@perlita_
8 ай бұрын
im glad to see i wasnt the only one feeling icky about No Hard Feelings. when i saw the trailer in theaters once, i was genuineky shocked to see such a movie get greenlit cuz i was like "isnt he literally a teeanger?!?!
@opale5373
8 ай бұрын
Even if he was older, the fact that his parents are paying someone to force him to have sex would already be gross enough, but they had to make it worth by making him barely adult and shaming a teenager because he's a virgin. I don't understand how someone thought about this plot and get it approved, why an actress that shouldn't be that desperate for a role accepted to be in this film, and generally speaking how this movie was made released without anyone ever thinking that perhaps there could be something wrong with this whole idea.
@alexisgonzales4689
8 ай бұрын
@opale5373 yessss ever since I saw that trailer I've felt weird towards Jennifer Lawrence like she's so popular she didn't need to take this role
@charlesc3734
8 ай бұрын
@@opale5373 of course its wrong! thats why its funny! That's the point! Do you need daddy to hold your hand to watch the scary movie??
@Quisharealistic
8 ай бұрын
In defense of no hard feelings. I think it’s a terrible outdated trope they were referencing about the societal pressure of being a Boy and having to transform into a false assumptions of what manhood is suppose to be. But in away the movie breaks those tropes a bit. Like just a little.. it’s still weird. (Unnecessary blabbering) I do like the contrast and portrayal Of how gen z are persevered and yearning for more intellectual connection while millennials have a tendency to throw themselves away into soulless sexual relationships due to trauma and or no knowledge of self worth.
@vee4554
8 ай бұрын
wasn't it based on a craigslist thing
@Rabbitzan
8 ай бұрын
What makes me angry is when people justify arranged marriages from way back when and say it was a different time.. just because it was legal back then does not make it okay.
@e.g.evermore4390
8 ай бұрын
Isnt that what legal mean?
@TheProxy066
8 ай бұрын
@@e.g.evermore4390 No?
@Toulouxxe
8 ай бұрын
@@e.g.evermore4390no?
@andreeadoca1550
8 ай бұрын
Arranged and forced marriages are very different things. Arranged marriages are very much legal and are oftentimes beneficial to both families and partners involved.
@edba1.037
8 ай бұрын
it's not okay now, but it was okay back then, we should remember what happened back then as a lesson so we don't repeat the same mistake
@LavenderLydia
9 ай бұрын
I would have liked a section where grooming is addressed appropriately in media. EDIT: Y'all really need to stop saying Lolita. Everybody knows about Lolita.
@eduardarodrigues3901
9 ай бұрын
I think the new gossip girl kinda does that has a sub plot. Its between a student an a teacher
@veil9326
9 ай бұрын
Shameless does that quite well a few times
@oylene
9 ай бұрын
Heard really good things about May December (which is also mentioned in another comment on this video)
@whoacoolhandle
9 ай бұрын
I think Cruel Summer Season 1 does a pretty good job too.
@AngDevigne
9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Vita-kg8cp
6 ай бұрын
I have very bad OCD, it can create horrifying images but most people with ocd understand that it is not our thoughts, it is a severe condition and we need mental health help and do not romanize it, thank you so much for addressing this
@alainaluu
8 ай бұрын
I need someone to acknowledge the creepiness of Licorice Pizza! No one was talking about how uncomfortable the age gap was 25 and 15.
@danicee
8 ай бұрын
I remember talking about this film with my sister and she said she liked this film and didn’t mind their relationship but I just couldn’t get past the main female character being pursued by a teenage boy. So gross.
@girlzrule810
8 ай бұрын
YES I couldn't stand this movie because age gap is just so insane. It's nicely shot and well acted, but I just couldn't get around the 10 year age gap + it being a student-teacher relationship.
@djtundra8011
8 ай бұрын
I loved Licorice Pizza but I cringed at that age difference.
@alainaluu
8 ай бұрын
@@girlzrule810 She wasn't his teacher, but it was still really inappropriate. She had a position of power over him by agreeing to be his chaperone.
@lemonmeat
8 ай бұрын
not even an age gap atp thats just straight up "pdf"philia
@peachpixiedust
9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you talked about Call Me by Your Name, it's been reclaimed in beautiful ways, and the gay couple being really woke at the time doesn't change the fact that so many gay and bisexual men have been groomed as children seeking out their first real love too.
@Lemoncakelover678
9 ай бұрын
Yeah that movie just ultimately harms LGBT youth in the long run Instead of 'helping' them
@Cobalt360Degrees
9 ай бұрын
It sucks because, on some level, it would be _good_ to have a film or some other piece of media delving into inappropriate age gaps in the LGBT+ community because for a _very long time_ gay kids were only really figuring out who they were and what they were feeling by being educated by gay adults because their straight families and their communities either refused to or outright disowned them. Entire generations of queer kids were only getting to feel seen and validated by adults who had waaaayyyyy more knowledge and power over them with absolutely no oversight. If anything, it's even more of a minefield to talk about because so much of the visibility of the queer community today is thanks to their hard work and sacrifices, and much like not wanting to see honest critique of your favourite media, it's an emotionally difficult thing to do to try and address that some of the people in those important gay communities were not exactly good people. The malicious stereotype of the gay predator still looms large over popular culture so who knows if or when we'll ever get a chance to talk about these kinds of problems while the people who lived through it are still alive.
@mynameistoosacredtoshareto7020
9 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate I keep seeing your comments
@kxmuna
9 ай бұрын
this book is in a different country in the 80’s where the age of consent and being an adult was different and dating people youger than you wasent seen as werid
@peachpixiedust
9 ай бұрын
@@mr.mirabilis9021 Chill out, I'm talking about the experience of real people outside the movie
@Anthology_of_Holly
8 ай бұрын
I dated my first serious boyfriend when I was 16 and he was 20. He told me he loved me and then broke up wit the me a few months later because ‘I couldn’t go out to clubs with him it made him feel lonely when he’s out’ (I’m in Australia where legal drinking age is 18). I remember feeling like it was all my fault for not being mature enough for him. By the time I was 20 and looked at 16 year olds it made me want to vomit 😅
@ghoultooth
8 ай бұрын
I had a “friend” who thought it was appropriate to date a 16 year old when he was 20, just a year or two ago. Needless to say, I called him out for it and more or less severed ties. He still reaches out and I’m civil with him, but that was a major no. They never did anything sexual, but it still weirds me out really badly and it was unfortunately legal since the age of consent in the UK is 16. I’m so sorry you went through all that and it really is so strange that people in their 20s could POSSIBLY be viewing literal children in that way. I’m 22 myself and I don’t think I could stomach dating anyone under 20.
@fidgc6774
8 ай бұрын
Yeah as a 21 yr old aussie I couldnt imagine even slightly liking anything younger than 19 lmao. Feels icky for some reason. Weird tho cuz I dont mind older
@lulu-kz5gf
8 ай бұрын
I'm 20 this year and 17 year olds look like babies, I can't imagine even dating someone that young and it's barely considered as illegal as they'd be turning 18 and it's still disgusting in my eyes.
@zapazap
8 ай бұрын
@@ghoultoothWhat does the age of consent have to do with it if they did nothing sexual?
@Serjo777
8 ай бұрын
@@ghoultooth Freakin' pru de. Yeah, let's have the gov decide for people what they can do with each other consensually, what a great idea. Or, you know, you could let them decide for themselves and not meddle in their affairs?
@cautiousgalaxy4613
9 ай бұрын
I knew so many classmates that where dating adults in high school it was so bad. One of the girls she was 15 and dating a 30 year old. She said they had known each other for a long time, like that makes it better.
@ieatalgae
9 ай бұрын
That makes it worse tbh
@username-mk4qv
9 ай бұрын
Known each other a long time..? Shes half his age, omg that’s horrible. Must’ve been grooming her from day 1. And you’re right that doesn’t make it better. Even if let’s say they knew each other since they were both kids. For normal people, attraction ages with us. As a kid you like kids. As an adult you stop liking kids and start liking adults.
@Hachiko264
9 ай бұрын
Same 🙈 Remember a man broke up with one girl(16) in school because her boobs got "too big." Everybody was so confused, but It makes more "sense" now.😢
@harleylinnX
9 ай бұрын
@@Hachiko264oh my gosh, he is disgusting. I hope that girl is doing okay.
@kunitherock
9 ай бұрын
no same .. i rmbr being in the 8th grade, like 12-13, and i had friends dating 19-20 year olds .. and i was like .. oh .. ??
@FormulaFanboy
9 ай бұрын
Genuinely thanks for talking about No Hard Feelings, I remember being laughed at when I commented on the trailer that this movie wouldn't be so accepted if the roles were reversed. Most men can confirm that unfortunately unwanted advances or grooming against men from women is seldom taken seriously at all so sometimes we just have to be really uncomfortable. I remember seeing the trailer for this STUPID movie again and again in theatres and being so uncomfortable every time I saw it because it's just so not okay. Thanks for shedding light
@snowblossom5056
9 ай бұрын
Exactly, I'm glad someone's finally talking about this too! I watched it out of curiosity, and it was... so bad. It was creepy and unfathomably cringeworthy. Being okay with having a relationship with a 19 year old is already bad, but the main character lady (don't remember her name, don't care) was also incredibly immature and annoying. Later in the movie, she gets really possessive of him out of nowhere and it's so incredibly creepy. And, about the immature part, she acts like a spoiled hormonal teenage girl when he actually pushes her away (which he should be doing). I genuinely have no idea why anyone likes this movie.
@bajabl
9 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the movie? It’s not what you assume lol
@FormulaFanboy
9 ай бұрын
@@bajabl thanks for being a great example of what i meant
@FormulaFanboy
9 ай бұрын
@@snowblossom5056 Thank you for your reply :) I'd make a joke here about me and my girlfriend both being okay with having a relationship with a 19 year old (we're both 19) but I can't think of one right now, so just pretend I made a really good joke
@snowblossom5056
9 ай бұрын
@@FormulaFanboy Haha, dw that works lol
@selahdamerville4039
3 ай бұрын
as a teen girl, conversations like this from people like you make me feel so much more safe in the world, just spreading awareness and calling it what it is. i just wanted to thank you. i am adopting you as my older sister.
@Lumpybag
8 ай бұрын
as someone who was groomed by a 32 year old when i was 17, groomed by 20+ year olds when i was 12-15 it makes me genuinely sick to my stomach that people can defend any of this
@mariomorgan4347
7 ай бұрын
i am 16 and i been dating a 36 year old guy,and seeing these comments and this video makes me cry,cause i am scared he is just using me and grooming me,we been going on for 2 months and he has been more sweet to me than my own parents,we met online,i am genuinely asking for help,what should i do? i dont wanna break up with him with him being nice to me,it feels unfair,but i dont know what to do now
@Alicat231999
7 ай бұрын
A 36 year old really shouldn't be dating a 16 year old. You should get out of the relationship if you can. He might seem sweet and he might even believe his intentions are pure, but so many more years of life experience puts him in a position where he would just be taking advantage of you as a young person who just haven't fully developed yet
@Katelizaj
7 ай бұрын
@@mariomorgan4347this might be very hard to hear, but no one over the age of 20 would find a 16 year old attractive in any way, I am honestly very concerned for you especially with the comment about your parents. If you have troublesome parents, I promise it gets better, but that man does NOT have your best interests at heart. If he did he would not be dating you.
@mariomorgan4347
7 ай бұрын
@@Katelizaj i am thinking about breaking up with him,this is my first relationship and it is hard to do it cause i am very attached to him
@mariomorgan4347
7 ай бұрын
@@Katelizaj and yeah my relationship with my parents were always bad,my dad lives in another town and barely talks to me,my mom is horrible to me cause she argues and fights over everything and somedays i am even scared of her,i hope it will get better,but it only will if she starts treating me better
@izzzzzy2983
9 ай бұрын
I was groomed by my manager at work when I was 17 and he was 28. After it happened I kept gaslighting myself, trying to convince myself that “oh it wasn’t that bad” and “I was being dramatic”. Now I’ve come to accept that I was a victim, and it wasn’t my fault, what he did was awful. But it’s still nice to have videos like this that reinforce to me that I was wronged when I struggle to believe it.
@TheComedyDogDan
9 ай бұрын
@mrshadow_91417 year olds can’t even vote or drink alcohol in america… u can 10000% be groomed lol. it’s about power dynamics
@sumlem
9 ай бұрын
@mrshadow_914just because you can legally do those things, it doesn't mean that you are developed as an adult. Full stop. A high schooler is 17 years old and still very much naive and vulnerable to manipulation. People who date 16-20 year olds for the purpose of age gaps do so because of their supposed innocence in order to "shape them" as people. It's a power imbalance and a relationship of control over someone's youth to appease the ego of the older person. Morally, why would someone want to date another person in a completely different stage of life? What is the appeal of someone that age? Why not go for someone closer in age?
@yorickbrown5297
9 ай бұрын
@mrshadow_914 if youre over 17 this is an embarassing thing to say and youre a freak fr
@cassidym.7687
9 ай бұрын
@mrshadow_914 none of the things you listed prove someone can't be groomed lmao, you sound goofy and uninformed
@pixiedust6347
9 ай бұрын
im so sorry 💖😞 u deserve the world.
@tesculeanuandrei6744
8 ай бұрын
Don't forget about the vocalist of Led Zeppelin dating a 14 year old and keeping her in the hotel room in tours until she turned 15 and he didn't give a shit anymore and had her backstage and going out with him.
@KikoElGatito
8 ай бұрын
Not just the vocalist Robert Plant, but also the guitarist Jimmy Page was well known for being into little girls, eugh.
@starrsmith3810
8 ай бұрын
Guitarist
@Dorkeydaze
7 ай бұрын
Yep unregulated. I heard it was common to choose a bunch of girls around that age to go “backstage”
@localabsurdist6661
2 ай бұрын
Sadly most bands have band members that assaulted and groomed minors… and the only band I saw that actually had the amount of backlash that ended their career was SWMRS
@rt73x
Ай бұрын
That was Jimmy Page, who was the guitarist. 🤓
@emmasilver2332
6 ай бұрын
As someone who dated a 17 year old when I was 14, and that relationship lasted 3 years, I'm still trying to undo the damage that caused me. He was absolutely a predator, and by the time I realized it, I was too afraid to say anything. Didn't say anything to my parents because I knew that would give them even more of an excuse to infantilize me, and I didn't work up the courage to break up with him until two years after I realized it wasn't healthy. And if it weren't for technology, it might've been even longer. I have no doubt he would have raped me one day if I stayed with him for long enough. Part of me keeps blaming myself for not seeing the signs earlier, even though I know in my logical mind that what I went through was unequivocally his fault. To see this type of behavior being defended is absolutely sickening to me.
@cigarettediet1185
5 ай бұрын
im sorry to hear that but 17 year old boys are still really young so even if i had dated one at 14 i wouldnt even notice.
@emmasilver2332
5 ай бұрын
@@cigarettediet1185 that's the problem. I didn't notice anything was wrong until I'd already developed feelings for him.
@Inky_doodledoo
4 ай бұрын
Do you know what he's doing now?
@emmasilver2332
4 ай бұрын
@@Inky_doodledoo I know he's gotten some other gal pregnant within like a month of me breaking up with him. And I know he works at my local KFC. Other than that, no idea.
@kj.4977
3 ай бұрын
So sorry to hear that. Hope you’re doing okay
@davidranderson1
9 ай бұрын
Maybe I was just projecting my own attitudes onto the movie, but I thought in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World the other characters and the movie itself were mocking him for dating someone in high school. It was one more example of how he was immature, irresponsible, and needed to grow up.
@mintyhippo8125
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Scott and his friends are presented as not doing well. “Dating a high schooler IS the mourning period!” And everyone makes fun of him for dating her/thinks it odd. Scott is way more of a jerk in the comics, too. I thought the age gap is always weird, but at least they only kissed once (and Knives kissed him), and it wasn’t presented as a big love story. Scott was just a jerk who wasn’t really interested in her/thought she was too into him/was only dating her to get out of the house.
@violet_broregarde
8 ай бұрын
I remember almost nothing from that movie except the phrase "fake high school girlfriend."
@DeeFig66
8 ай бұрын
@@mintyhippo8125 Actually, the split second after Knives kisses him, I think in the comic, he breaks up with her milliseconds after she jumps him. (His plan for that meeting). Also, Like... the video zero's in one the only instance in the movie where anyone sees this in a positive light. Where are all the scenes of his friends judging him for dating her? Also, yes, he infantilizes her because his entire reason for dating her IS because she's young & will probably want to take it slow. He never rushed her because he was happy with it being painfully simple, innocent & slow. The fact that she was young was to not get into the more messy aspects of adult relationships. Does this make Scott good? NO, of course not! Was he using Knives? Absolutely. The movie could have addressed it more sure, but I think her being a minor did showcase his shitty lack of judgement & made us judge him right off the bat to fall into his growth without losing time... I dunno. It serves a narrative mechanic IMO. It was at her expense, I agree, but I don't think it ruins it.
@highdefinition450
8 ай бұрын
yeah i think it could have been done with an 18 year old at least or address more how creepy it is but it's definitely not a good thing for scott to be doing this. he's a freak and a loser who takes advantage of younger women because it's easy for him, that is made very clear at the very least lmao
@lemongreed7916
8 ай бұрын
yeah, I see Scott as immature, he himself is kinda acting like a high schooler
@doodleywack
8 ай бұрын
Moral of the story: it’s healthy to give constructive Criticism to media you enjoy 😊
@lamestudiosinc418
8 ай бұрын
@@Nonesovile96 Funny because actual puritans didn't care that much about age gaps and regularly married off teenage girls to 30+ year old men.
@EndorJedi985
7 ай бұрын
@Nonesovile96 the woman making this video is literary a grooming victim.
@vg2324
9 ай бұрын
I was 15 or 16 and i was on xbox and i started talking to this guy who was about 25 and i didnt realize but he was touching himself to my voice and i didnt know and he knew i didnt know. when i found out i didnt want to talk to him anymore and he wrote a song about wanting to kill me. It was insane so its so weird the fascination about dating kids who are naive what is wrong with people.
@cloudoholic
9 ай бұрын
OH HELL NAH 💀 no but fr tho i hope ur okay now and stay safe :[
@nikkicarreon
9 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry 😭 wtf is wrong with ppl?? What sucks is that I know a ton of people will relate
@cawesomewhatever
9 ай бұрын
I think it’s the power they want over that person. Might be because they are insecure about something in their lives but yeah it’s disgusting. Had a person ask me about my boobs when I was like 10 and it was online I stopped talking to that person right away.
@JoseDelgado-tz4qn
9 ай бұрын
I hope that guy in jail or something
@babyspider99
9 ай бұрын
Was he listening to the divinelys?
@lucybarnhill
3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT HOW TAYLOR SWIFT DID THAT!! i see so many swifties that refuse to acknowledge it along with other issues surrounding her like her carbon emissions.
@miriamhalpern3026
8 ай бұрын
I watched No Hard Feelings with my ex, who was much older than me. And the whole time I was so extraordinarily uncomfortable. The way she was pressuring the boy in the movie was giving me a lot of flashbacks. My ex was super into it and he found it really funny, and he didn’t seem to have a problem with what was happening in the movie. And I remember thinking, “is he showing this to me because of our age gap? If he sees no problem here I guess that explains why he keeps forcing himself on me like it’s normal” Idk it just felt like he was throwing in my face the fact that he had manipulated me and used my naïveté. We broke up like a month later after his manipulation had turned into straight up being mean and awful to me.
@athenatemplanza8005
8 ай бұрын
I hope you’re doing better!!
@athenatemplanza8005
8 ай бұрын
I hope you’re doing better!!
@athenatemplanza8005
8 ай бұрын
I hope you’re doing better!!
@athenatemplanza8005
8 ай бұрын
I hope you’re doing better!!
@justjoannak
8 ай бұрын
My goodness, that's awful
@eamelie
9 ай бұрын
Every time I see Aaron Taylor-Johnson I feel so bad for him. He was only 18-19 when he supposedly asked her to marry him (she was in her 40’s)…even without having a “partner” relationship with her prior. She definitely took advantage of him.
@StoriesGalore123
9 ай бұрын
A 17 y/o asked me out and I rejected them because I felt uncomfortable as a 19 y/o. I can’t imagine how these men who are 40s+ find it remotely okay to date someone that age. Disgusting
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
9 ай бұрын
My sister was 19 and she was dating a 26 years old guy. It ended up as I assumed it would finish. The guy was an immature asshole who didn't take accountability and wanted to watch naked girls in Instagram.
@psychedelicyeti6053
9 ай бұрын
The 12 year old quote in the video was definitely disgusting. I was asked out by a 19 year old when I was 24 and I can't imagine being attracted. The fact that some people go as young as 12 is concerning.
@halloweenallyearround4889 I'd say it's loose morals. I study in an university full of teenagers, because there are a lot of 17 and 18 years old. If one of them, for whatever unholy reason, tried to go after me (unlikely, since I'm not attractive, physically speaking)... I'd kindly tell them "No, try with people closer to your age". I've seen many of these 17 years old boys and they're like babies to me. Having a relationship would be impossible, basically. Because there would be no love, it would be super creepy. It would be like baby-sitting/molding that person and that's 🤢 So I'd say guys who are above 19 and they are willing to date teenagers in their 17s? They're probably desperate like Scott, or are lying to themselves. Or have a weak moral compass.
@orangemoon6009
9 ай бұрын
Hell I understand, I would feel uncomfortable to date anyone under 18 years old and I’M 18
@Live_Laugh_Loathe
4 ай бұрын
The way you mentioned OCD and were so respectful and informed makes me genuinely so happy ily nikki
@Dhruv.s03
8 ай бұрын
Adding to the Harry Styles and Nicole Scherzinger thing, you can also google about Caroline Flack. He said he had a crush on her at the x- factor (she was a co-presenter) when he was 17 and she was 31. A teenager having crushes on older people is super common, don't tell me you never had a crush on an attractive older person. But the fact that she decided to act on it??? in her words “I’ve never felt I was much older than Harry. I still feel 18 and I probably act that way half the time." The teenager is made to feel like they're mature by the groomer and they never realise they're being groomed, they'll like the attention and groomers rely on that. They need someone to depend on them, for someone to think of them as relevant. I've seen so many people blaming the victims, but it's ALWAYS the groomer's fault wtf is wrong with you guys??
@noni7442
8 ай бұрын
as much as people MIGHT defend these as "love stories", i as a grooming victim RELATE heavily to what the young people feel here. I don't think these people/authors realize they are literally depicting what grooming is. When I was 13 with a 16 year old "boyfriend", I was distraught for MONTHS meanwhile he moved on in less than a week, even got into another relationship. That makes you realize how little you are to them, how much they don't actually mean anything they tell you or you "share". Once you lose that naivete, girlishness, and can't give them what they want, you're nothing. Once you're not an ego boost, you're nothing.
@silverrain3356
8 ай бұрын
ouch you put this into words rlly well
@noni7442
8 ай бұрын
@@Schneekatzchen me as a 16 year old now would never want to be sexual or so close to a 13 year old as he was with me..
@noni7442
8 ай бұрын
@@Schneekatzchen would've been a good point if he didn't already do that to someone else
@lemonberry3242
8 ай бұрын
@@Schneekatzchen the man also being a child does NOT excuse his actions. he is still a groomer whether you like it or not.
@stickyickey1229
8 ай бұрын
Well said
@NinaNime-eh7ew
Ай бұрын
My sister is 13 talking to a 17 year old and my parents genuinely think it’s ok cus he’s not 18 like wtf it makes me mad and sad
@wozthescott6214
Ай бұрын
Have you tried contacting the authorities?
@xL.420x
Ай бұрын
please help her, PLEASE do anything you can, I had a friend in this EXACT situation, she was taken advantage of, almost raped, and was coerced and pressured (he threatened to take his life and later FOUND THE AREA IN WHICH SHE LIVED IN AND MOVED VERY NEAR HER TO TRY AND FIND HER) her to send him child p (yk, aka n00ds) she was seriously damaged for a while she didn't know any better and just liked him because she thought he was more mature. Please don't let this happen to her, at least monitor, just watch over her and him to make sure shes safe, don't demand her to end it she wont listen (my friend didn't when I tried to warn her) just try to make sure shes safe
@xL.420x
Ай бұрын
@persuadedbyadhom Umm she didn't have sex at all, and its not really a feminist problem...its a predator problem?? She was *almost* raped, (rape isn't sex btw, its non-consensual if you maybe didn't know that which I doubt) he was actively threatening her and forcing her into these sexual situations which she did NOT want at all but she just wanted a romantic and sweet connection (normal for young teenagers) which she did not receive even tho he kept saying what he was doing was normal. If you want to keep victim blaming a thirteen year old, feel free, but don't say that shit to me because I really don't wanna hear it.
@thatoneVoidDemon
Ай бұрын
I remember dating a 17 year old when I was 14 and my family was okay with it when like it is not okay in hindsight, at all. And that’s like just 3 years. I hope your sister eventually breaks it off with him- there’s not too much you as her sibling can do because kids are kind of dumb and won’t listen.
@thatoneVoidDemon
Ай бұрын
@persuadedbyadhom it's not okay because i wasn't married?? Are you saying it's ok for like a 14 year old to get married? You're literally delusional and no one should trust you around children. It wasn't okay because I was in middle school dating someone with significantly more life experience than me (Even though he also had little to no life experience, the difference is staggering)
@Weeniehutnurse
9 ай бұрын
The Scott Pilgrim author saying “Come back when you lived your 20s” is CRAZY. I’m 25, if anyone I knew was dating A HIGH SCHOOLER I would literally dog on them constantly. It’s gross. I have nothing in common with a high schooler, and it just feels gross because you’re taking advantage of them.
@mjstew4453
9 ай бұрын
When I was 23 I had a coworker who found out that one of our client’s high school aged daughter was into him. He wanted to pursue her and me and another coworker made fun of him for it and begged him to stop. I’m 30 now I have made a lot of mistakes in my twenties and haven’t always been as kind as I could’ve been but I was never interested in teenagers. Ffs
@goodnightgoodnightgoodnight
9 ай бұрын
literally its nuts. i havent done any of the bad shit scott did (cheating, dating a high schooler, idk what else. being mildly racist?) nor do i know anyone personally who has. im 24. i feel like normal people in their 20s dont do the shit scott did???
@ceres9027
9 ай бұрын
NGL it felt like a bad faith reading of his words to me. Like yeah he said he based the series on his own life but it's a massive reach to imply that he meant that at all when he was saying that. Even if you didn't cheat on anyone or date any high schoolers you still absolutely hurt people without intending to, in some way or another. Which is very obviously what he was broadly referring to.
@goodnightgoodnightgoodnight
9 ай бұрын
@@ceres9027 maybe but it feels like the biggest criticisms abt scott pilgrim (the character) by younger audiences is the dating a 17 year old part. this reads especially strong since everyone in the series hurts each other unintentionally (or intentionally!) but scott himself gets the brunt of criticism
@lumiella
9 ай бұрын
one of my friends is 18 and she's dating a guy in his early 20s. she hates it when we make fun of him for it because she's a little older for a high schooler, but personally its super weird cus she's never been independent and he's been living on his own for years. it's just the maturity.
@kiwicraft6901
9 ай бұрын
Finally, someone else who sees how creepy no hard feelings is! Doubly gross the parents are actively enabling it.
@Nic0Dr4ws
9 ай бұрын
I literally hated when the trailers would play on tv, and not to be that guy BUT I can assure you if the19 year old was a girl instead of a boy a lot more people would find it creepy ( as they should because it’s creepy regardless)
@cassidym.7687
9 ай бұрын
right?! i felt crazy being in a seemingly small group of people having a what the fuck reaction to it from the get go.
@toonieblue
9 ай бұрын
yes thank you!! i was so confused as to why no one is talking about this??
@Treeniofretnio
9 ай бұрын
@@Nic0Dr4wsbut you would still have a giant group of guys loving the movie bcuz of course
@mm61777
9 ай бұрын
exactly!
@arbitrarySalamander
9 ай бұрын
The “it was a different time” argument gets me off kilter very quickly, like Jesus
@Alias3141
8 ай бұрын
Okay, but why, though? The rules change with time. It doesn’t invalidate our ethics today that things were different back then. If anything, it says good things about us that we as a society act more ethically than we did 70 years ago.
@naenaeg2193
8 ай бұрын
@@Alias3141 but you can acknowledge that the past was messed up even if back then that was normal/accepted/ not frowned upon. Like abusing your wife was normalized back in the day but now we understand that it’s messed up and not right. So in my view yea nobody cared about the age gap because of the time period but Elvis was still in the wrong for pursuing a lady that young.
@Alias3141
8 ай бұрын
@@naenaeg2193 I hope you're okay being judged by posterity for things we currently say are fine.
@naenaeg2193
8 ай бұрын
@@Alias3141 I really couldn’t care about being judged 💀
@Alias3141
8 ай бұрын
@naenaeg2193 I think you're wrong for that. Simultaneously judging the people of the past and rejecting the same judgment unto yourself. I'd call that childish. If you're gonna hold absurdist moralistic views like "The people of the past should have behaved in a moral manner beyond the standards of their society", you should act in accordance with that view. Better anticipate the moral values of the future and adhere to them, or be judged in the same manner, feel me?
@totemraven
5 ай бұрын
i always saw the ending of CMBYN as Emilio reflecting on the relationship and realising he was groomed, only had no idea there was a sequel that ruined my whole idea
@khyrodon
9 ай бұрын
If you think turning 25 is bad, just you wait. But seriously, my aunt is a huge Elvis fan. Saw a video about the age gap and Elvis liking to spend time with underage girls, but when I asked her about it she basically walked away saying: I don’t want to know about that. It’s a sentiment I’ve encountered a few times. Some people would rather idolise their heroes than face the truth. It’s a dangerous thing.
@jj4891
8 ай бұрын
Exactly. I wish they’d just tell the truth. “Oh I know about that. I just don’t care.”
@missnikci0518
9 ай бұрын
My grandmother in her 80s was an Elvis fan and still thought it was strange that Elvis married Percilla. She had a daughter aroubd her aage at the time and she said there was now way she would let her do that
@TehRedBlur
9 ай бұрын
I love Edgar Allan Poe. I loves his poetry and his spooky scary stories. He still perved on his cousin when she was 13 and he was 26, and lied about her age so they could get married. Not okay.
@liviemillie6455
9 ай бұрын
This!! I was going to comment this. I LOVE his work. He is pretty much my favorite author and biggest inspiration ... WHEN IT COMES TO LITERATURE. He did NASTY shiz and it wasn't ok just because his art was good!! We need to be able to separate art from artist. it's sickening the modern world can't do that if someone is famous or hot
@lucasmiller877
9 ай бұрын
@liviemillie6455 Lara Tybur pfp? Cool!
@olliesweirdworld
9 ай бұрын
didn't he marry her as a way of adopting her?
@YourBigHorse
9 ай бұрын
Worth noting that Poe’s biography was written by his biggest enemies. I’m certain he was still a drunken creep but I heard marrying cousins for financial reasons was more common then
@KaijuofSteel
9 ай бұрын
Poe was an excellent writer, but a terrible person. Even his stories sorta reflect that, that's why they are horror. That's why he died alone, poor and alcoholic. Fitting ending.
@homaneater
Ай бұрын
that's not age gaps, that's straight romanticizing of grooming
@jennifer-pm6ql
9 ай бұрын
Plz do a part 2, dont let that research go to waste. And the editing in the video is amazing.
@woofee66
7 ай бұрын
Honestly Call Me By Your Name being set in Italy is quite fitting Here grooming is basically allowed I'm Italian and I remember when I was a kid all adults around me would tell me "as long as both people in the relationship truly love each other it doesn't matter if one is an adult and one is a minor, love knows no bounds" (adults in this case being family and school teachers and my parents' friends-) Thank God I never believed them cause that mentality is really dangerous So props to the author ig, setting it in Italy is very believable. That's the only "good" thing I can say about it tho.
@nrknice
6 ай бұрын
That's really funny because just earlier today I saw a video about a 19 year old dating a 49 year old from Italy.
@FrenkieWest32
6 ай бұрын
@@nrknice 19 is not a minor though.
@melonfiend8309
6 ай бұрын
@@FrenkieWest32 nine-TEEN. as in teenager. they are a teenager. it doesn't matter if the law says 18 year olds are legal adults, they're still kids in many ways. they lack experience and certain maturity, and while they can get married and drive and make huge life decisions independently, that doesn't mean they aren't vulnerable and impressionable. especially if the person much older than them and flirting with them is successful or well respected in some regard. 19 year olds aren't minors, but they're still just kids who don't fully understand when someone older than them is fetishizing their youth and abusing their naivety. teenagers should only date people in their age pool and for them that means a 19 year old really shouldn't be dating someone over 21. the amount of growth you go through during your teens and early adulthood is HUGE. that's why its even creepy when 14 year olds date 17 year olds--one has just entered high school and is experiencing being a "true" teenager for the first time while the other is at the end of it and is preparing for adulthood.
@FrenkieWest32
6 ай бұрын
@@melonfiend8309 and is the word ''teenager'' supposed to be your argument? That's a non-sequitur. Anything else what you say is true to varying degrees for every human being on earth. Except for the kids part, no you're not a kid at 19. You even betray yourself at the end, you say 17 is ''at the end of being a true teenager and preparing for adulthood''. So what is 19 then?
@isislee919
6 ай бұрын
@@FrenkieWest32ok groomer
@afterglowinrose1267
9 ай бұрын
we need a part two. i was a victim of one of my teachers (who now cannot teach in my state) and i think it’s important to bring awareness to this kind of harmful dynamic that’s been normalized heavily by the media (ESPECIALLY PLL)
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
9 ай бұрын
When I read Call Me By Your Name, I was 17 years old. I romanticised it. I wanted a sexy, tanned, brown-haired gay man to take me away, to f*ck me like a mop. To make out of me a man, to take everything out from me. I wanted to escape reality, I wanted to have my own Olliver. I wanted to feel protected and like I was worthy of being a prize for this sexy ass male. Now I'm 21 years old and Olliver's behaviour is creepy as hell. I study in an university full of teenagers and they're like babies to me. Physically and emotionally immature. Olliver went from being my fictional lust dispenser to a creep. Maybe as immature and toxic as Elio. It's weird how I used to romanticise this bullsh¡t book when I was Elio's age, only to find out 3 years later that it is cockroach raid levels of "Mmm, hell no". And it is chillying to think that if I had been a cutesy, abandoned, adorable, socially appealing gay boy without a family that loved me... I could've and I would've fallen prey to older men who would've definitely taken advantage of me.
@jass8689
8 ай бұрын
I actually had to read a book in high school about a 52 year old man falling in love with a 12 year old boy. FOR SCHOOL. I HAD TO READ THIS FOR SCHOOL
@gio_giotte
8 ай бұрын
Death in Venice by Thomas Mann right?
@Bandkidl1fe
8 ай бұрын
W H A T
@spaciousdawgg
8 ай бұрын
EW HOW DID THEY ALLOW THIS
@KikoElGatito
8 ай бұрын
High school be making ya read weird shit. I remember there was book, can't remember the name but remember that one of the character's name was Ted Lavender. The protagonist in the book was weird as he was awfully creepy and obsessive to the female love interest and was overstepping her boundaries, like one scene had him grab her hand at the theater despite her not dating nor shoeing interest in him. She even recoiled from him, and it felt odd how my teacher in that class said the girl was weird and "probably a lesbian" even though it just plain weird to be touching someone despite not being chummy with them. It doesn't help that the protagonist was something of a "nice guy" and his narrative feels so annoying with his "oh, woe is me! She don't like me!" Like no shit.
@camilathielepellenz33
8 ай бұрын
Why couldn't they just have picked Lolita lol
@c_c_mtg_
4 ай бұрын
As a survivor of all of this, I've been to two separate rounds of trauma therapy over several years. Now I am like an actual functional human being. But I lost my twenties to it. I just want to say thank you for doing this video and I'm so glad so many other people have found it, because it's been a lot of labor in my life to educate so many people on things like this where they just don't f****** get it
@weirdscience369
9 ай бұрын
This isn't a video about age gaps, this is a video about straight up grooming. Age gaps between ADULTS are chill but this is crazy. EDIT: I'm NOT saying Nikki should change the video or its title. I was just making a comment on the content of the video, which I watched in its entirety and ENJOYED. I made this comment because I'm a young man and I like DILFs. It was just a comment, not a call to action. Cool it in the replies.
@laverrez
9 ай бұрын
that's my problem with it to be honest, like obviously grooming is the worst but this is lumping all age gap relationships into that when adult age gaps are literally fine unless there's a power imbalance issue going on
@yellowishgreendragon.-.
9 ай бұрын
The title needs to be changed. Relationship with an age gap aren't necessarily a problem. It becomes a problem when grooming and toxic dynamics become involved. The younger person can also be a predator in some situations even though it's not as common. (By this statement I'm referring to situations where the older person is genuinely being the one taken advantage of).
@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
9 ай бұрын
I have a question for you. I am 21 years old. If I had a crush with a 40 years old man, would that be bad? I mean, I am a young adult. But there's still a huge difference. What do you think?
@weirdscience369
9 ай бұрын
@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ oh dude I am incredibly biased on this. I'm in my early 20s too and I am hella attracted to middle aged men. Ultimately, if you are an independent adult, you are capable of making your own adult decisions. That's the bottom line. Weigh the pros and cons and make your own informed decisions. If you do decide to go for it, my personal advice is to be careful. Know your boundaries and how capable you are of defending them. Always let someone know where you'll be, who you'll be with, and for how long you expect to be there. Same as meeting any other stranger. Know your situation well enough to know whether you can get out of it if need be. Obviously there's a big age and experience gap in this situation. Don't get into a situation that also has a big power gap. Don't go for professors or other authority figures (yes, even if they're hot). Although, you're an adult. At the end of the day, it's your choice if you wanna fuck around and find out.
@min-fel
9 ай бұрын
lmao age gaps are absolutely an issue. there are so many older men who go for very young women just because they're still relatively easy to manipulate. age gaps like this are way too frequent and should absolutely be spoken about.
@Autlo
9 ай бұрын
As a 33 year-old millenial, watching younger people discover Woody Allen and the allegations against him and immediately coming to the conclusion that he's just a creep is really refreshing. With my generation and those older than me there was heated and pointless discourse on "cancel culture" and how he's a genius and blaming the victims and so on.
@psychedelicyeti6053
9 ай бұрын
That's weird. I'm also 33 and I remember a lot of people trying to cancel Woody Allen for being creepy. Yeah, some people argued you have to separate the art from the artist, but there was backlash at celebrities that support Woody Allan and Roman Polanski. It's usually people older than me trying to defend him. I'm also starting to see come around to them. But of course, that's just my experience. Edit to add this was before the term "cancel culture" was popular to use, so around my late teens when the public were trying hold these celebrities accountable.
@pollysshore2539
9 ай бұрын
@@psychedelicyeti6053I’m almost 50 and remember when the news actually broke and I’ve seen every generation drag the story back out decade after decade. The whole family is messed up. Like it or not - nothing that happened between Woody & Soon Yi was illegal, that we know of. Soon Yi has repeatedly stated that they didn’t enter into a relationship until she was 21. I don’t think there is evidence that it started way before. Woody & Mia didn’t marry, they didn’t live together, Soon Yi is Mia and Andre’s adoptive daughter, everyone has confirmed Soon Yi could not stand Woody when she was younger and she rarely interacted with him. It’s unlikely that she suddenly fell for him when he took her to a basketball game at the urging of Mia when she was 17. Considering the amount of animosity that was there I’m sure it took more than a minute. They are still together decades later and Soon Yi, the alleged victim, has always maintained the exact same story. Is it weird? Very. Is the family messed up? Absolutely - every last one of them. Was this situation actionable? No. *pardon edits. I’ve got an annoying headache that is slightly messing with my vision.
@Gingereal32
9 ай бұрын
I agree r/whoisthecreep r/trans r/funkopops
@portapotty69
9 ай бұрын
Yes the current generation is going through art history and cancelling every 'sinner' they find, with no trial needed. Also, the current generation has produced no noteworthy art whatsoever. So they're destroying all the great art of the past because literally no one is without sin, and the 'art' they're making now to replace it is just moralistic, preachy trash that nobody actually likes.
@ptose
9 ай бұрын
You should ask the son of Mia Farrow what he thinks of those allegations. Spoiler: he thinks that Mia Farrow was the real monster, a toxic women who manipulated her own childred and treated them like shit, who didn't accepted that her then adult daughter (who wasn't the daughter of Allen) had a relationship with Soon yi, and fabricated those allegations. And he himself when he was young, fearing Mia Farrow accused Allen, a thing that left him with a sense of guilt. And today we have still people thinking that Allen is a monster, and that the fact that there are people who don't even know well the facts and treat him as such is "refreshing".
@thecloset6520
9 ай бұрын
Dude when I saw the trailer for No Hard Feelings I felt so uncomfortable, like god forbid a guy doesn’t want to have sex and is uncomfortable when a woman is constantly hitting on him, I didn’t even know that Jennifer Lawrence was supposed to be in her thirties in the movie (like I thought maybe she was supposed to be playing a younger person like people casting adults as teens type beat)
@remigal899
9 ай бұрын
SAME. I thought I was tripping bc no one was calling that movie out but I insistently hold the opinion that that movie is disgusting.
@ajakakakak
9 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it ends with him not having s3x and they even make a point that he shouldn’t be pressured into it or expected to want it right away with just any woman. They also end up just staying friends I believe. Still weird but it isn’t 100% unhinged
@remigal899
9 ай бұрын
@@ajakakakak oh okay that’s actually epic.
@jasperwisecarver
4 ай бұрын
my favorite parts of scott pilgrim is every character that isn't scott
@kbbandtees8112
9 ай бұрын
I met my first boyfriend when I was 14. He was a senior at my HS (18 yrs old) and I was a freshman. We started hanging out right after I turned 15 and at the time I thought it was completely normal and even cool that an “older guy” was into me. We dated for almost two years before I finally broke up with him when I was 17 and he was 20. He continued to contact me when he turned 21, offering to buy me alcohol/nicotine to lure me back in. Even then, it took me quite a few more years to realize how inappropriate our relationship really was. I look back now and can see all the times he took advantage of my naïvety and my lack of life experience. I just wish I could go back and hug younger me because even though it was *technically* legal, she deserved so much better. Being 21 myself now, I could never imagine dating someone younger than 20 much less 17. So glad I came to my senses and dumped his ass.
@LurveCheruB
9 ай бұрын
I love that Scott Pilgrim movie, you definitely have a GREAT point. Grooming in media, and creepy age gaps aren't looked at negatively that much
@existentialpotato
6 ай бұрын
thank you for talking about cmbyn! i wrote an essay about the movie back in 2018 because i was like “why is no one talking about how disgusting this is” like it actually upset me so much.
@holacomooduh
2 ай бұрын
Can you share that essay? I would love to read it. Ive been telling my friend how terrible this movie/book is but she finds it very special and a confort movie/book, which shocked me
@alluringallure
9 ай бұрын
Age gaps between two adults is fine but an age gap between an adult and literally child is absurd
@fatimahanwaar306
2 ай бұрын
two wrongs don't make a right!
@almondwaet7966
9 ай бұрын
i find it insane how even with more modern cases of grooming and abuse, like pete wentz, for example, people will do ANYTHING to deny their favorites are bad people. i kinda get it because when you find out a person that inspired you so much is a monster you will be definitely shocked, but come on, is it THAT hard to have at least a little bit of empathy for the victim? its especially disgusting when its grown ass people saying they would "love" to be in the victim's place, the dehumanization, objectification and victim blaming are insane
@apriljk6557
9 ай бұрын
I'm from genX and don't let anybody older tell you "it was a different time. " Everyone knew it was wrong to sexualize children and teens but nobody wanted to do the right thing. Imo, in hindsight, it's way easier to justify to themselves that the kid was problematic and troubled than they did something awful. People say, things were different back then, thinking it's an excuse for their behavior or turning a blind eye, but it wasn't. It was only different in that the woman or child could be shamed into silence. Everyone knew it was wrong but anybody willing to say so, couldn't.
@slurpee4203
9 ай бұрын
Joel from Good Charlotte too, he dated Hilary Duff when she was 15 and he was 25😐
@ljeans531
9 ай бұрын
What I find crazy, is the copium. Like, there are 7billion people on this earth and we act like people can't find a partner. It cause it's all about the outside and none of the important details inside. You are gross if you date underage people. End of story, you are gross if you date people WAYYYY out of your age range before the age of 30. If you are 30 and he is 50, fine. But if you are 30 and he is 20... NO! WHY is that hard for people?
@BraxEvans
9 ай бұрын
maybe its because our current state of society likes to over simplify bad choices into bad people beyond redemption. If you keep using the term monster for all off them what will we call the ones who are actually monsters?
@midnight6994
9 ай бұрын
@ville__A chat bot?!
@sereneandcozy
9 ай бұрын
I have OCD and intrusive thoughts and that quote by the Call Me By Your Name is in no way an intrusive thought or something of OCD. For one, intrusive thoughts are horrifying and you do not enjoy them. Intrusive thoughts aren't a "peach" and you wouldn't bring it up casually nor actually date 12 year olds if it was an intrusive thought. Also, thank you for talking about it this because I feel like it's so glossed over. Anytime I saw an ad for no hard feelings it would make me sick, it's so fucking weird and gross. American Beauty also has a relationship between an older man and a minor and the actor was a pedophile. I hate when people say it's just fiction because the people making it are always telling on themselves because they're trying to normalize it.
@kelpo6304
9 ай бұрын
hi! I have OCD and what's known as POCD (Pedophilic OCD) as a result of my CSA, which means that I suffer from obsessive and irrational fears that I am secretly a pedophile. it's horrible. I actually avoid looking at children because what if I'm secretly evil and want to hurt them??? POCD is absolutely not the same as what the CMBYN author described, which is enjoying thinking about children sexually, lingering on those thoughts and intentionally returning to them for pleasure. those are fantasies, not intrusive thoughts. and for the record, being casually objectified like that when I was 12 by grown ass men was traumatizing. you can tell what they're thinking
@sereneandcozy
9 ай бұрын
@@kelpo6304 hey there! thank you for sharing. I know from experience it is hard to talk about which OCD subset you have. I also have POCD and for the longest time it was hard for me to be around my family events because I was so worried about what intrusive thoughts I might have about my younger cousins because I never want to hurt them. And I'm sorry for what you have gone through, but I hope you are safe and happy now, and that you have a great support system. You can definitely tell what they're thinking, it's vile. Being sexualized like that affects us in so many ways.
@tokivalentine
5 ай бұрын
Nikki dragging these freaks at the end is so iconic i can't 🤩❤
@fatimahanwaar306
2 ай бұрын
and all of these trolls being butthurt in the comment section are proving her point
@lestatsluv317
9 ай бұрын
My grandmother would have defended almost anything Elvis did. When she was a little kid in the '50's, she lived extremely poor (no running water, very little food type poor) but because she and her sisters were obsessed with Elvis, when one of his (terrible) movies came out, my great grandma would find a way to make sure they had money to go see it. Grandma associated Elvis with some of the happiest memories of her childhood. BUT STILL....She told me, as far back as I remember, how screwed up his relationship was with Priscilla. She told me about Priscilla being 14, about him being abusive, all of it. She still loved Elvis. But she was too much of a feminist to act like his relationship with a 14 year old he abused when they got together was alright. Hearing Priscilla talk about it and get upset over people calling it grooming is sad. Hearing her do this and then the things she says to defend him describes textbook grooming is even more heartbreaking.
@recycledideas4261
9 ай бұрын
My grandpa is also a huge Elvis fan. He even named me after Elvis. When I was visiting him, he wanted to watch the Elvis biopic with me. When the scene of Elvis meeting Priscilla came on he turned to me and said, “See she was only 14 when they met and that’s just so wrong.” My grandpa was clearly grossed out by Elvis dating a child. So whenever I see other boomers who grew up with Elvis and defend him by saying stuff like, “Everyone was ok with it back then!” I just think of what my grandpa said to me. I feel like people who say that must’ve personally thought it was ok but I’m sure a lot of people back then were critical of Elvis dating a child. It would be like 60 years in the future people are claiming that no one cared about Chris Brown or R Kelly doing the horrible things they did. It’s true some people didn’t and still don’t care, but to claim that EVERYONE was okay with it is outrageous.
@DrawtheCurtains
9 ай бұрын
You don't have to be a feminist to know that a grown man getting together with a 14 year old is wrong 👍
@lestatsluv317
9 ай бұрын
@@DrawtheCurtains In 1967 when a man of any age could legally marry a 15 year old girl in the state Elvis lived in so long as the parents of the girl consented? Yes, there was. I was 14 in 2001 and the majority of guys who tried to sleep with me were in their 20's. Most of the adults in my life were well aware of the attempts and not one of them said "Hey, it is not appropriate for grown men to try to get with you" (Hence Wilmer Valderama getting away with very publicly sleeping with young girls around that same time). Advocating for a teen girl's right to just exist without grown men sleeping with/grooming them is a sadly relatively recent thing which is why even Priscilla Presley herself, decades after her divorce and his death, will STILL argue that what Elvis did wasn't grooming.... even as she describes grooming trying to exonerate him.
@moonlight-rd5rs
9 ай бұрын
If you think Call me by your name is bad, check out the crush. It makes grooming seem like the girls falt even though the guy is 29 and shes 14 💀 Edit: this is the most likes I've ever gotten tysm
@violet-vj9tn
9 ай бұрын
he never wanted her tho? she was insane he was just there LMAOO he did not groom her in that he just was around her
@Furrina89
9 ай бұрын
Call me by your name isnt grooming. Idk the movie but the book is autobiographical and the author himself has a crush on his father's student/associate who is engaged. They hookup for a while, then guy leaves to get married and author ends up with an age-appropriate guy.
@helioghostt
9 ай бұрын
@@Furrina89 did u even watch the fucking video
@cacovie
9 ай бұрын
@@violet-vj9tn He kisses her and tells her he wishes she was older.
@arima_song
9 ай бұрын
@@cacovielmao, let's see how they respond to _that_ argument
@linah1998
9 ай бұрын
I need to talk about how unhinged the CMBYN sequel novel Find Me is. Not only do Elio and Oliver end up together 30 years later, it also gets much worse. Elio's father Sam got divorced from Elio's mom, then had a chance encounter with a woman in her 30s while he was in his 60s. They end up having a child together which they named Oliver. Yes named after the man who groomed his son. In the epilogue it is implied that Elio and Oliver are raising little Oliver together after Sam died (I remind you, Elio's half brother). So not only is the entire meaning of CMBY's ending removed, Find Me introduces another huge age gap relationship that borders on "old man's fantasy"-writing and the naming and raising of their child has quite some creepy connotations
@Witchy276
8 ай бұрын
When I was 16, i had a friend in the same grade who told me her boyfriend was 26 and hearing that at that age I was a little uncomfortable and concerned but couldn’t grasp how beyond fucked it was. She couldn’t even drive yet she was dating someone who was old enough to be college graduate. She ended up pregnant and had to drop out of school, idk if it was with the 26 year old but the chances are higher than it not. When you are young, you don’t even realize how young you are until you get older. Even though I was taught these kinds of relationships are inappropriate, you don’t know how inappropriate until you get to that age, or have a better grasp on life and healthy relationships.
@addy2877
9 ай бұрын
Palo Alto is genuinely so creepy. Like just knowing that James is such a creep in real life AND he’s the one who wrote this story AND he’s acting in the movie as the creep is actually insane.
@kab00m_
9 ай бұрын
And it baffles me how people overlook that and only focuses on “how hot he is”. He has a WHOLE HISTORY of being a WEIRDO. I will never forget how he wanted to make a book about his obsession with Lana Del Rey. He’s a creep
@imauniryne6757
9 ай бұрын
I saw a scene from that movie it’s all over tiktok and of course they put Lana music over it her fan base romanticize grooming and pedo and they want that
@SpartanArmy117
9 ай бұрын
@@kab00m_ You're right and it's not just him. Hollywood has had a massive ped problem for a very long time that has been hidden\ignored. It got slightly exposed with J.E. (I bet that name is shadow banned) and yet basically no one went to jail and the Hollywood crowd is still seen as some sort of moral compass to a lot of people.
@addy2877
6 ай бұрын
@@kab00m_This is so true. Like he’s not even hot, and even if he was that doesn’t make his creepy behavior acceptable.
@kab00m_
6 ай бұрын
@@addy2877 exactly. I’m tired of people excusing other peoples wrong doings because of their looks
@zenaforest
9 ай бұрын
a part 2 with talks on power balances and teacher/student stuff would be very beneficial, I'd definitely watch it!
@briannabou
9 ай бұрын
THIS!!!
@laneem9746
9 ай бұрын
YESS!! this is portrayed a lot in cartoons especially adventure time with simon and betty, even tho this is a college setting it’s still weird🥲
@ChessieChess
9 ай бұрын
Ezra & Aria! Totally normalized and pretty disgusting
@sweetstacks3631
9 ай бұрын
Mentioned this in another comment, but Hulu's "A Teacher" fully condemns student/teacher. I had to watch it in several sittings because it's a lot.
@valerielevy8799
9 ай бұрын
I think this is a popular trope in media but doesn’t happen nearly as often in real life. I just hate how TV shows and movies normalize it making it easier for real life predators to get away with it. Although as a teacher I’m a little biased and hate thinking about my own colleagues hurting the students we love and care about like that. But I’m not naive and I know this stuff happens and we need to talk about it :( and media targeting teens needs to teach them that it’s not okay
@jessip8654
9 ай бұрын
Age gap relationships in themselves are not always bad. My great grandparents had a 16 year age gap and were very much in love. The caveat was that they were 34 and 50 when they met, and was my g-gram's second marriage, so it was not like she was some inexperienced teen getting swindled by an older dude.
@ugauga7553
9 ай бұрын
I'm kind of worried now, when my parents started dating, my mom was 20 and my dad was 28, is that ok? They are still together
@CodgerGunslinger
9 ай бұрын
yeah!! that's fine they are mature enough for each party to date, as long as they met when they were both adults I don't see a problem with it@@ugauga7553
@xoPotatoTreexo
9 ай бұрын
@ugauga7553 it's a very case-by-case thing. My parents have a similar age gap and to me, the issues they have are less to do with that than the generational trauma caused by my dad's upbringing. My mum being a bit older or my dad being a bit younger probably wouldn't change that much. If your parents' relationship is happy and healthy, then you probably don't need to worry
@amberslahlize7961
9 ай бұрын
My husband and I are a 7 year age gap - is that bad? I was 23 and he was 29 when we started dating.
@cven-dz2lf
9 ай бұрын
@@ugauga7553 totally fine. they were both adults and it’s just an 8 year gap
@billygoodin6194
Ай бұрын
When I was 24 I had a 17 year old lie to me about his age and i immediately cut off all contact. Makes me feel gross just thinking about those who actively seek that out and I don’t understand the attraction or interest by any means.
@Lenaiatrash
9 ай бұрын
i think one of the worst parts is that adults who date minors will defended themselves by saying "me dating this 14 year old is fine because elvis dated a 14" and it's such a gross defence
@Karin-fj3eu
9 ай бұрын
💯
@hexcodeff6624
9 ай бұрын
What is the evidence on elvis dating a 14-year-old? They married at 21 and 34. Is there any timeline on their relationship in those 8 years?
@AUGHHHHHBBG
9 ай бұрын
It’s not even that it’s always the religious people too cus they will be like “Well in the Bible this man did this” like SO WHAT
@ickicynicky4890
9 ай бұрын
he knew her in Germany when she was still a freshman in highschoole i believe and allot of the arrangements for her to meet Elvis and live with him had to be approved by her parents kid at school knew that she was with Elvis i mean it's pretty safe to say they where dating when she just hit puberty :/@@hexcodeff6624
@leeshapon
9 ай бұрын
@@hexcodeff6624bro just stop, every comment you leave defending this shit just makes you look like more of a nonce
@letdablockcryy
9 ай бұрын
definitely want a part 2 this was so interesting and it’s crazy how people have become so desensitized to grooming bc there were so many people who recommended scott pilgrim vs the world and didn’t even BOTHER mentioning the fact he was dating a high schooler??
@eduardarodrigues3901
9 ай бұрын
Yes, but in that movie/series/comics people see him (in the storie world) has a bad person, but I do think it could have been better. I dont like how Ramona doesn't have a problem with it 😬
@Weeniehutnurse
9 ай бұрын
Yeaahhhh I liked the comic and movie because people called him a loser and gross for it, but they’re not harping it as much in the new series
@Anon00113
9 ай бұрын
They don’t see women or girls or children as human
@gabbymurdersjake
9 ай бұрын
@@Anon00113the majority of the fandom is female and theyd bash u for that
@BeautifulDiaspora
9 ай бұрын
I’m so glad this generation is touching on age gaps more and more. A lot of older folks were getting with some quite heinous things…😟
@hexcodeff6624
9 ай бұрын
Age gaps are completely irrelevant. teens and adults, that's the zone of interest.
@BeautifulDiaspora
9 ай бұрын
@@hexcodeff6624 What's considered an "Adult" is something that changes depending on where u are. 15 is "adult" in some places. Y'all have to realize that lawful doesn't mean right. For example, 18 is the age of consent in the U.S, but an 18 y/o with a 50 y/o is weird asf. A 21 y/o in the U.S is well over the "age of consent", but a 21 y/o with a 60 y/o is weird asf....Is it legal? Yeah, however it's still weird asf. So yea. Adult or not, age gaps are definitely relevant and should be the main focus point in this convo (hence the video title).
@hexcodeff6624
9 ай бұрын
@@BeautifulDiaspora "18 y/o with a 50 y/o is weird asf" You sound like a 1990s homophobe. No proper reasons, just vibes.
@richborn6700
6 ай бұрын
My grandmother graduated in 1958 and said even then she had a big crush on Elvis
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