He's scared of going to prison. He knows he's gonna get beat up and there are gonna be people there capable of doing terrible things to him. He's not top dog anymore. He feels vulnerable. His actions in this scene have nothing to do with remorse. He doesn't give a fuck about his father or sister, or any of the people he killed. He's just terrified of going somewhere where he's the weak link. He leans on his mother for comfort, the same way he did when he was a child and sick. It's manipulation.
@BloodBoiling
3 жыл бұрын
That is a fairly accurate assessment.
@veradavidovic8034
3 жыл бұрын
Hmm... I guess that would be the obvious answer… But I think the director kind of made the scene the way it is so we can for ourselves figure out what it means… I personally felt that Kevin finally got some comfort he wanted from his mom all along and everything he did was a cry for help or attention....idk i kind of saw fear in his eyes but also some weird emotion that isn’t necessarily happy nor sad maybe even some “form of affection “that he felt he got...I love that your take on thing is so different and how the movie allows us to do so❤️
@Polomance862
2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that, even for it to be manipulation. He is scared, genuinely scared in this moment. Kevin and Eva's relationship had been so fraught with difficulty and distance. Eva blaming her chained self on him, and he reciprocated that hatred. But that hatred defined him to spite her. But when he fell ill; he needed comfort and Eva gave that to him. There was no effort, no single attempt.. He needed her then and saw something real.. tangible. Beyond what he understood. It was enough for Eva to fall in love with Kevin's heart, even if it'd be shrouded once more from her. All his life, he's yearned for something more from Eva. But the distance returned and Eva wouldn't ever try to break through more than once. Even with all his walls, the only honesty he's ever been accustomed to was when she broke his arm in a fit of rage. He couldn't find a way to express the desire he wanted from his mother. And Eva could never find the strength to break through her son's walls against her. Kevin didn't care for anyone else but his mother. Not with love, but to see the genuine emotion that Eva displayed in brisk moments. No more fake smiles, faked interest in him, just raw emotion. He felt raw love, raw hatred, raw malice, and that was all he wanted from his mother. Her suffering was real to him... and this final scene is the last bit of raw love he'd feel once more. Eva; despite everything that happened carried a love for him deep inside despite everything. Nothing could change or fix what happened. Kevin will be sent to Prison and he'll be the weakest link among them all. Eva will live as the pariah of sorrow to channel upon. Eva's life will forever be tainted by her son's actions and the years of guilt she carries... But the light at the exit may allude that she will live on. She won't be able to visit every day, nor ever see Kevin the same way again. But this final moment, she may've said goodbye to the last bit of Kevin that she loved deeply.
@KevinJuice
2 жыл бұрын
I promise you, people in prison really could care less if you’re a killer or even a rasict. they’ll mess you up for touching kids, but a killer? in jail maybe you’ll turn some head, prison, no one cares.
@RTU130
2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@repwashere
2 жыл бұрын
2011: We need to talk about Kevin 2022: We need to talk about Ezra
@FirstNameLastName-jg1es
2 жыл бұрын
Deadass playing himself in this movie
@themontypython9540
2 жыл бұрын
Howling 🤣
@chaitea6777
2 жыл бұрын
Babahahaha fr
@Stuart267
2 жыл бұрын
Ezra is a piece of shlt. he should do the world a favour & take himself out of it, no more danger to the public
@jwb0153
2 жыл бұрын
But not Bruno
@ladycopine
8 жыл бұрын
"A child needs your love most when he deserves it least"
@lorenzobasile781
8 жыл бұрын
The page before the book begins. What a fabulous quote.
@swiftlylovestruck
7 жыл бұрын
Madgirlwithabox I know I'm gonna sound like an ignorant dick, but if he killed my lover & my daughter I can't see how I could ever love him. 😐 (I know he is mentally ill)
@johnsmiguel
7 жыл бұрын
are you a mother?
@Aivottaja
7 жыл бұрын
He's not mentally ill. He's a violent psychopath.
@mason7035
7 жыл бұрын
Aivottaja psychopaths are mentally ill.
@meroko15701
6 жыл бұрын
“You don’t look happy.” “Have I ever?” This is extremely sad to me. I think even Kevin himself is admitting he has been messed up since the beginning.
@nay5783
6 жыл бұрын
I saw the movie as a portrait of a rejected, angry kid trying to make his mom as miserable as himself. He hated that she didn't loved him and she tried SO HARD, but he wanted her to be miserable because she made him miserable. He killed classmates because they bullied him, he killed his sister cuz she did NOTHING but their mom loved her, he killed his father cuz his mother loved him. He didn't kill the mother cuz he wanted her to suffer like he was. Not saying it's OK what he did, he did it out of anger and childish - she asks why he did it and he wasn't sure, because It doesn't matter anymore. he thought her misery would bring him some sort of joy but it doesn't - her love would. And now he's even sadder
@vinzelrato
5 жыл бұрын
best movie line ever ! "Nervous...? Do you know anything about those places...?"
@annahafren
5 жыл бұрын
@@nay5783 I don't think his goal was to make her hurt. Ever since he was a baby he was different, the only person in his family that he had traits in common with was his mother. But she was cold and made him think she did not love him, since he had nothing in common with his father or sister he likely felt very alone and unloved. His acts weren't for the sole purpose of making her suffer, it was to get her attention and make her feel truly alone.
@littlepeony9474
5 жыл бұрын
right when I heard that I cried
@NadiaAburouman
5 жыл бұрын
@@nay5783 Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, I think this is a very smart theory.
@knuckles9t581
8 жыл бұрын
decription says " i do not own anything". well thats just sad
@koojoe1178
8 жыл бұрын
you sound like Cleveland
@ladycopine
8 жыл бұрын
+Knuckles9T5 I'm laughing way too hard than I should...
@mertinho
7 жыл бұрын
lol this made my day
@Aivottaja
7 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. We'd all be better off without earthly possessions!
@animalfinatic9366
6 жыл бұрын
Knuckles9T5 took me a minute..lol
@Kimberly3736
2 жыл бұрын
I think when he says “I used to think I knew now I’m not so sure”, that the reason he did it was to punish his mother for not loving him, but the fact she keeps showing up for him and still visits shows she does love him, and he sees that now
@CR-og5ho
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@mrmoviemanic1
2 жыл бұрын
That was my interpretation. It's honestly a very bittersweet moment in an otherwise very disturbing film.
@bonedeep_ache2273
2 жыл бұрын
Not really, in the book she shows up to visit him to show everybody that she is such a good mother and is just playing a part
@Emma88178
Жыл бұрын
No he was always evil. Born that way. He loved manipulating her and especially his dad.
@tamaramielke6315
5 ай бұрын
Yes,she never bonded with him.She said I'd rather be in France at one point in the movie
@Godschild02068
3 жыл бұрын
The bruises on his face, says he's gotten a taste of the real world, is now aware of what awaits him, hindsight is 20/20
@kb4903
6 ай бұрын
Boring comfortable suburbia is easy to rebel against but get a taste of real poverty or get out of comfort zone can be a real shock to the system.
@Ben-yj8ye
8 жыл бұрын
Excellent acting by Ezra Miller and Tilda Swinton. In earlier scenes, his eyes were cold and gleaming with malice. Now they express vulnerability, even love for his mom. A lot of things were said between them just by expression. This scene from the book is just what I imagined, and somewhat better.
@Cinemabuff97
8 жыл бұрын
Wow
@wackity.7879
8 жыл бұрын
apart from it didn't have the coffin bit! Or the robin hood book waiting for him
@clan_fraser19
8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on.
@lucyhoney-hall7915
7 жыл бұрын
Ben "your scilence says a thousand words"
@Aivottaja
7 жыл бұрын
Love? AHAHAHA. Kevin can't feel love. What his eyes express is fear and desperation because he's about to be shipped to the big boys' playground.
@Reaver1223
9 жыл бұрын
if you watch the beginning of this movie, it's quite obvious that Kevin's mother resents his existence right from the start. she didn't even want a child, she liked traveling. mother-son bonding is a crucial part of how a boy will act in his prepubescent and pubescent years. and they had absolutely no bond. you can tell how hollow their relationship is when she attempts to take him golfing and then to dinner.
@koojoe1178
8 жыл бұрын
she tried to make the best of it and maybe he sensed her bad energy just because you used to something doesn't mean you like it
@sakurasam420
7 жыл бұрын
It seemed more like his lack of love from his mother led him to hate her intensely from an early age which led to an obsession with spiting her at every turn. His life goal was to spite her as much as possible. When he finally did what he knew would break her the most, he was unfulfilled and realized how pointless it was. Hence the line where he says he doesn't even know why he's doing it anymore.
@vtech325
7 жыл бұрын
Z Hancox Not really an excuse. She tried to bond with him.
@blvckdoll
6 жыл бұрын
Ramofields Fieldamona thats true. There is no excuse for Kevin’s lashing out..especially the way that he did it. But even Tilda Swinton said in an interview that Kevin hated her because she wasn’t mentally ‘there’.
@nostalgia9338
6 жыл бұрын
Ramofields Fieldamona Exactly, it’s not a strong argument. Yes she didn’t want to become a mother like most women with unplanned pregnancies, but sensing her bad energy? That’s a stretch. She really made the effort to bond with him but his reaction was too volatile and unusual for a kid. All he had to do was show little affection and he would have won her over for the rest of his life.
@whitleywarner2082
8 жыл бұрын
This movie makes my stomach churn with something, I can't put my finger on it. I think Kevin was both a bad seed from birth (brain abnormality) and with lack of motherly love and disciplining he grew into the sociopath that murdered his family and peers. I think he kept her alive in part because he wanted her to suffer the pain of having no one to love her, like he felt when he was a child and his mother felt no love for him, and in part because he had a weird erotic love for her for being so much like him. They definitely see each other in themselves, and towards the end, they both start to see the full error of their ways. Eva realizes in part that the blood he shed is very much on her hands for not being the best mother, and Kevin realizes after psychological treatment that he isn't the genius he thought he was but rather a very messed up kid who was just yearning for mommy's attention the entire time. Not to the full extent but it just touches on the beginning of emotion
@sakurasam420
7 жыл бұрын
It seemed more like his lack of love from his mother led him to hate her intensely from an early age which led to an obsession with spiting her at every turn. His life goal was to spite her as much as possible. When he finally did what he knew would break her the most, he was unfulfilled and realized how pointless it was. Hence the line where he says he doesn't even know why he's doing it anymore.
@wynne7642
7 жыл бұрын
People with the genes to make them antisocial can be productive members of society. This was learned through a scientist's discovery that he had the same brain patterns as serial killers. The difference? In all of his childhood photos, he was smiling. He had a family that loved him and he was not abused. It's neither nature nor nurture, it's nature *AND* nurture. So good parental relationships can make all the difference--not the kind where one side is faked. The kind he could've had with his mother if she'd accepted and loved him with full warmth. A child has to be both seen for who they are, and loved for who they are to be truly healthy.
@sammiss3804
7 жыл бұрын
Whitley Lol Lots of people grow up without motherly love and don't go on a murdering spree! There is no blood on the mothers hand! It's all on him. Cut it with the liberal sympathy
@sammyeagleson5352
7 жыл бұрын
That was my exact reaction! Just cause someone has mommy issues doesn't make him a killer!
@richardsantanna5398
7 жыл бұрын
Sammi ss No one is blaming the mother for murder. But the mother raised him so she obviously contributed to his character. Try to think before saying something stupid next time.
@Adam-ui4ef
7 жыл бұрын
The power he derived from bullying and manipulating his mother, is no longer, as his peers are hardened criminals who wont put up with his BS the way his mother did. He might also feel humbled and perhaps even embarrassed at the idea he actually wants and needs his mothers unconditional love in such a torrid time.
@kb4903
2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@Asmigaikwad963
2 ай бұрын
TRUE
@sammywatokohom172
2 жыл бұрын
People who casted Kevin deserve raise, and rewards. How did they know?
@aseawari1178
Ай бұрын
Hilarious comment
@Jennyfisch
7 жыл бұрын
The only time we see him vulnerable. He's probably not gonna survive a maximum security prison, at least not without damage, and he and his mother know it, which is why she hugs him goodbye even though she hates him. Sociopaths want to see others suffer but are usually ill-equipped for suffering themselves.
@rikifromplanetk8305
6 жыл бұрын
Jennyfisch how would he not though? They don't let people run around killing eachother in a maximum security prison
@rikifromplanetk8305
6 жыл бұрын
Cheryl Lynne different time period, jeffery was left unsupervised with other inmates. From what i understand, they don't let prisoners especially of the extremely dangerous variation just wander around with other inmates without supervision. I don't know why they let people like him wander around other inmates in the first place. Luckily he became docile, or he couldve killed more people in the prison
@dremid4456
5 жыл бұрын
@@rikifromplanetk8305 Ohhh man you don't get it. This kid has two options, either: 1) you're out in the commons w/ other prisoners who - for the most part - find murderers like this reprehensible, and who will physically and/or sexually brutalize him to no end. 2) if the brutalization is too much to endure, he can cause some trouble to get himself locked up in isolation. That would be safe, but people lose their minds being locked in in a what is essentially box with no human contact 23 hours out of the day. Prisoners spend plenty of time unsupervised or minimally-supervised. How many guards do you think they have staffing these places? And do you think the guards are going to be looking out for people like this? Unless a knife fight breaks out in the open, guards aren't going to get involved in the petty day-to-day antics and violence among various groups of prisoners.
@dremid4456
5 жыл бұрын
@@rikifromplanetk8305 Also - "different time period"? Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in the mid-90's. There hasn't some vast update to the way these places are generally run in the last 20 years. It's not like Dahmer's conviction was 100 years ago.
@shiestyrecords3225
4 жыл бұрын
tbh both are sociopaths which makes it interesting
@pep9312
7 жыл бұрын
I was dreading what was going to happen to his sister and her death left me sad, but him killing his father was far more disturbing... I was partially pleased because it was like pops finally got to see the crazy come out, but how disturbingly sociopathic is it to kill the person who loved you and praised you and hung out with you since childhood. That makes me feel haunted.
@LadyDi4476
12 жыл бұрын
The movie and actors were completely robbed of Oscar nominations. This movie blows me away no matter how many times I watch it!!
@Laurie_Ramone
2 жыл бұрын
I read Roger Ebert's review of this movie last night and I really wish they would've kept in the line that he mentioned was cut from this scene: Eva asks Kevin why he didn't kill her, and he responds, "You don't want to kill your audience."
@blackdiopside5261
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that should've been left in.
@shaniceb.5129
4 жыл бұрын
I felt like the ending served as poetic justice for the audience. The antagonist (Kevin) who was a douchebag throughout the film is now terrified of the unknown in this last scene. his hair has been shaved off, there are scratches on his face from someone who probably attacked him, he’s heading to an adult prison soon and there is nothing he can do to fix those grim choices he made. The only person he has left is his mom whom he hated so much and if She wanted to, could stop visiting him all together.
@Cinemabuff97
8 жыл бұрын
I feel like this scene means a lot. Just seeing the way they both are towards each other after the terrible things he did, and seeing how he is slowly changing, and realizing how vulnerable he is. And she shows how she loves him in a way, because of the hug. She cares for him, and wishes that she would have raised him better.
@moppyblueblue
6 жыл бұрын
"I used to think I knew. But now not so sure" This means a lot. Glad they cut the other one.
@sal6695
3 жыл бұрын
What was the other one? (Sorry for 3 year delay)
@ft.shettaayyaayy4690
6 ай бұрын
@@sal6695when she asked why he didn't shoot her, he replied something along the lines of not shooting your audience (referring her)
@websurfin2010
8 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for him. And people will say that I shouldn't. But I do. I feel deeply sorry for him. This is a heart-wrenching scene! Superbly acted! The way she hugged him at the end, it makes me wanna cry.
@Cinemabuff97
8 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact same way. I would never do anything that Kevin did, but I feel that I am a lot like him in a way, and his relationship with his mother, feels exactly like mine. But I love my mother more, just ad much as she does. But the way I express my feelings around her, are really similar to the way Kevin "expresses" his own around her. I feel like I have a lot of problems, including autism and aspbergers,high anxiety, ADHD, and depression. And their relationship is really similar to ours.
@Cinemabuff97
8 жыл бұрын
***** Are you talking about me?
@Cinemabuff97
8 жыл бұрын
***** You don't know shit. My mom is not an atheist and neither am I. We are actually a Christian family.
@Aaaaaaaa-vb9bl
8 жыл бұрын
Murderers lose their rights as soon as they get caught.
@Cinemabuff97
8 жыл бұрын
***** Yes you did. You said websurfing and YOU. Don't lie, you said it.
@soulvey
2 жыл бұрын
We need to talk about Ezra…
@mika9916
3 ай бұрын
Well, from looking at him in the last scene, it seems he's already had just a small but lasting taste of what it's like at the "big school" so I can imagine he's genuinely afraid for himself in this moment.
@Tehdran
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those scenes that I don’t think gets enough credit. Everything about it can breed different experiences from it and I’ve heard so many great arguments for what was happening in Kevin’s head. You can feel everything and everytime I got back I try and watch it from a different perspective I’ve heard of.
@SpaceFlowerAesthetic
2 жыл бұрын
*Seems like life imitated art. Ezra is heading for an ending like this in prison and it disturbs me to know what kind of person Ezra has become in real life. Hes a monster sadly and the truth is coming out and getting worse day by day. Life is so weird*
@allnamesaretakenful
Жыл бұрын
Ezra wasn't acting.
@rainbowkittens10
6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I have to say this his jawline is 💯💯😜
@egg64
2 жыл бұрын
and now it's We Need To Talk About Ezra
@SoccerGal710
12 жыл бұрын
'How would I not know the context when I am the context.' Ugh that line is perfect for Kevin. I know this might not be true but I feel when he overheard that conversation between his mother and father it made him pursue murder of his father, sister and peers (I know it was in spite of his mother). I haven't read the book so I am off the mark but that line was amazing given what was happening and how Kevin was.
@matthewcrome5835
2 жыл бұрын
This film is so underrated and brilliant. Tilda Swinton being a fantastic actress, Ezra Miller (who we now realize was typecast) did a convincingly evil job, John C. Reilly in a rare serious role, Lynne Ramsay being a phenomenal director who clearly knows how to work with talent (having collaborated with Joaquin Phoenix as well as Swinton in her films), Jonny Greenwood doing the score… perfection
@MrTruthNoLie
10 жыл бұрын
By the correctional system finally in stilling fear and humility into Kevin, nurture finally overcomes nature. Earlier in the film, it took a broken arm and the fear of getting hurt or possible loss of the mother, due to child-services getting involved, Kevin decides to poop in the potty. If Kevin's parents had punished him for hurting the family pet by taking away his archery privileges, the "shooting" may have been avoided or at least delayed. The problem in today's society, is that when parents fail their children by not instilling proper discipline and boundaries for behavior, it is usually left upon the correctional system to teach these tough lessons and it is a widespread problem.
@OrtegaSeason
10 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, but I'd add, fuck the family pet. Kevin did that as a teenager. I wouldn't have got away with half the stuff Kevin did as a todder. If I'd said "Are we talking about fucking" as an eight year old, I would have been slapped so hard across the face that..... well you get the idea.The one time Kevin ever gets physically disciplined was by accident.
@VSL123
10 жыл бұрын
That's completely wrong. Kevin - from a very young age - was sociopathic due to lack of proper care as a child, and/or some sort of abnormality within his brain. He didn't decide to use the toilet because he was afraid of getting hurt or losing his mother or child services getting involved - he used the toilet because there was no need to use the diapers anymore. The reason there was no need was because he had a new leverage over his mother - the fact that she broke his arm. He used his broken arm as a weapon against his mother, just as he used his diapers as a weapon against his mother too. You can see this is the case when he intentionally poos himself during the maths lesson, then (quite obviously) enjoys controlling and aggravating her mother with it. He loathed his mother but didn't understand why (as you can see in the final scene). This was all to hurt her. Kevin wanted to hurt/kill people - taking away his archery equipment would not have stopped this. He could have just as easily stabbed people to death if he wanted to - admittedly, he would have killed less people, but that's hardly the point. The problem isn't proper discipline - the problem is proper care, education and understanding. If Kevin's issues were recognised from a young age (by BOTH parents - let's admit it, the Dad is a moron) then proper professional care could have been sought for Kevin. Violence will only teach him violence - it's not a healthy way to bring up children.
@OrtegaSeason
10 жыл бұрын
***** Discipline is part of proper care for a child. In the film Eva hardly shows any genuine care for Kevin, either in terms of nurturing him or disciplining him when he does something wrong. Throughout the whole thing Kevin will do something wrong and then wait for a response from his mother. She either responds the wrong way (breaking his arm) or doesn't respond at all. This pattern just carries on into his teenage years.
@VSL123
10 жыл бұрын
OrtegaSeason Even when bringing up a "normal" child, I don't believe discipline (with regard to violence against a child) is necessary at all. The OP suggests punishment - clearly with the broken arm scenario in mind - in order to detract Kevin from committing any more disruptive actions. The fact of the matter is, Kevin was not a "normal" child. He lacked empathy and understanding towards everyone, not only towards his mother - you can see this through his treatment of his sister, his killing of the pet and his eventual killing of his Father and sister, along with people in the school. Discipline would not have solved this mental defect Kevin had. Of course, lack of empathy is often due to lack of exposure and stimulation from a very young age (as has been studied). With this in mind, discipline wouldn't have helped Kevin at all, and to suggest so is wrong.
@OrtegaSeason
10 жыл бұрын
***** How can you actually know that discipline wouldn't have worked. If anything it might have exposed that there really was something wrong with him. By not responding to his provocations Eva just encouraged him to escalate them. In fact, the first time Kevin demonstrates his not being able to use the toilet it isn't done as a means of mocking his mother. She doesn't respond though, and lets the dad do it instead.You can see in the scene that he's not happy about this, just like he's not happy when he slams the sandwich on the table and she just stares.
@michaelmccauley648
2 жыл бұрын
Few films truly disturb me and haunt my psyche for several days after seeing them. “Requiem for a Dream”, “Incendies”, “The Secret in Their Eyes” (Spanish version) and this one come to mind. Tilda Swinton and Ezra Miller have two of the most expressive faces I’ve ever seen and say more with their eyes than most actors do with a soliloquy. I remember how tough this film was to watch from the first viewing.... I may come back to it sometime, but I’m in no hurry.
@madalene7724
Ай бұрын
That hug at the end was so telling......as mother, I must carry this burden of the monster that came from my womb.
@Cosmic_Cowgirl
Жыл бұрын
Now I know why Ezra did so well playing this character
@locolocoseoul
Жыл бұрын
It is an extremely dark but profoundly beautiful. The movie is about eternal atonement, and embracing and accepting the most sinful and most horrid part of your life, and carrying the cross with such stoicism. It was such an irony because although eva did not have the usual motherly love for kevin, i wonder if she has shown the greatest love of all in the end, because an average mother would not have visit kevin in the prison like she did. Such courage. Such fortitude! The end scene when Eva is walking through a dark corridor to a lighter world, one could almost envision an enlighted buddha after extreme suffering. Cinematic tour de force!
@normancook965
Жыл бұрын
One of the characterisitcs of a psychopath is lack of empathy for others but empathy for oneself. I know someone who was on the Paul Bernardo case, and when they revealed to him that they had the tapes after hearing his lies, he cried like a frightened little child. I believe Kevin is frightened.
@jimbobhk2009
2 жыл бұрын
Hawaii: I don’t wanna fight you flash Ezra: I wouldn’t wanna fight me neither
@richos07
2 жыл бұрын
Ezra Miller: any advice on playing Kevin? Director: just be yourself
@john86031
2 жыл бұрын
We need to talk about.... Ezra
@PvtGermanWagz
9 ай бұрын
Kevin not killing his mother showed the audience just how much he hated her. He knew it would be torture to live after he did that to her husband and daughter.
@ErgoDog
2 жыл бұрын
And flashforward...it became true.
@xxTheCatsMeow
9 жыл бұрын
Such a great movie, love the soundtrack too.
@jonasthemovie
2 жыл бұрын
We need to talk about Ezra Miller.
@jameseddleman6944
2 жыл бұрын
"my wandering mind must gone astray... but saying son, accept the way..." I blasted this song in my apt when my roommates stole things from me and I was moving out. For 3 hours straight. They were more than afraid of me after that. Better to be seen insane, than something to walk all over.
@thanostsarbos1197
6 жыл бұрын
Tilda deserved a fucking Oscar for this
@baconsushi4life
9 жыл бұрын
It makes me cry every time I watch this
@debbieturner7944
2 жыл бұрын
Such a dark , thought provoking film
@InkAndPoet
10 ай бұрын
I'd like to point something out: up until this scene, Kevin always sat in the chair facing the door and Eva in the chair facing the wall. He always seemed confident and smug sitting there. Now they've swapped seats and he's scared out of his skin while she's sitting there, rather calmly and not nervous at all. It could symbolize the moment where she's indirectly saying to Kevin "you don't control me anymore."
@vangroover1903
2 ай бұрын
You can also see hints of the comfort and joy she takes knowing that he knows he is about to become a human dog toy for pitiless savages. That must help with the burning regret she must feel for not ending him when she had the chance.
@controloz3310
23 күн бұрын
Imagine knowing your child is fucked up beyond help and having to walk away? Tilda is a legend.
@BookishRaider
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Miller ends up landing in jail when the police actually find the girls they've kidnapped.
@superhotnutjob
2 жыл бұрын
If you brainwash someone BEFORE they leave their family, it's not kidnapping. That's how cults get away with the crazy shit they do. People 'want' to be there. Even if a mentally incapacitated person makes the decision to stay somewhere, they have that right. If you tried to take them away, you would be the one guilty of kidnapping.
@maxgc6413
2 жыл бұрын
Funny how he wasn’t acting here at all. Wooo
@Hatsumomo1984
Ай бұрын
This movie is so disturbing, I was able to watch it only once. But I really liked it. Kevin creeps me out.
@sarahmai8119
6 жыл бұрын
I haven't watch this yet (too scared lol) but the hugging part is so sad 😭,, I wish the mom say I love you or something
@rintheorder
6 жыл бұрын
For people saying that he's lacked of love, let me tell you something. He is psychopath. How can someone who is lacking in empathy have any room for love feeling? That doesn't make any sense! Also pretty sure beneath all mother, there's a part of them (even if it's smaller bits) that regret the things she will lose after having a baby. And don't go saying she does not give him the love! She tried her best giving him the love attention that everybody wants, but hey he rejected it. If you are in her shoes, you probably had already brought him to mental institution or psychiatric which I would've done in the first place. He wanted the attention? He got it. But why was he still messed up? One particular treat of psychopath is having the strange urge to do violence (or being sadistic). He enjoyed seeing people suffer, it probably increased the dopamine substance in his brain. So, I don't think the mom was at fault, the ignorant people around him and him self is the problem. The mom had already speak up about his anomaly behavior but no one reciprocated it. So much thing they could've done to save Kevin's mind like giving him psychological treatment. But it was too late...
@FightsRightsAlways
12 жыл бұрын
even with his head shaved...he's STILL hot.
@gilldavis8460
6 жыл бұрын
I am 20 years older than EM. Brings out some mighty bad instincts in me as well. Lol!
@karengarrow5579
4 күн бұрын
I watched it only once I found it deeply disturbing its frightening because there are millions of children out there like that in the world somewhere some are undiagnosed some are you cannot cure them they are only safe away from society for their benefit and ours
@JefferyFrisone
11 жыл бұрын
Yes, but don't forget, as he stands up, we can hear his shackles clanging. Maybe he does want to embrass his mother, but his hands are literally tied. He does seem, though, to be rocking in her arms.
@LAVATORR
2 жыл бұрын
Her first clue something was wrong should've been the fact that he had that exact facial expression when he was born.
@winnielynn171
7 жыл бұрын
he always loved his mom he just could never express it properly ,only out of anger and his killer actions ,all he wanted was her attention and to be loved by her
@ruthlessog9098
3 жыл бұрын
Anger because that is all he felt from her when he was in the womb
@celebrityrog
2 жыл бұрын
Ezra Miller is just like Kevin in real life.
@poulomi__hari
6 жыл бұрын
I think I know what actually was wrong with this kid. He was obsessed with his mother. Even as a baby he craved for mother's love and her undisputed attention, which obviously was very limited. Whatever he did, right from the start was all to get her attention. He murdered those who came in between. He wasn't born psycho. He was brilliant. His mother's aloofness damaged him. This story is more about the mother who failed.
@hatelovebowel4571
Жыл бұрын
It ain't a movie it is a documentary😭
@83JACKO
8 жыл бұрын
Don't know what the mother was thinking going ahead with getting this kid a bow and arrow for a gift
@CherieCherieBoomBoom
8 жыл бұрын
+jack blackburn it was the father actually that got it for him..
@83JACKO
8 жыл бұрын
+cuttle fish I know it was the father but surely the mother knew what he was getting and should of questioned it
@iwasbornintelligentbuteduc6893
8 жыл бұрын
+jack blackburn she always questioned it but the father was never on her side
@83JACKO
8 жыл бұрын
+Jan Hazard he wasn't was he... Bet he wish he listened. Very disturbing film
@ashtonbryan4500
7 жыл бұрын
The gift was from the father after he saw Kevin bonding with his mom over the Robin Hood story book
@mightytaco123
5 жыл бұрын
I wish I had an unconditional love from my mother like he did. He’s so lucky.
@mscoot629
2 жыл бұрын
Does Ezra have so many scars on their head or did they add the scars for the movie ?
@melissazuege5821
4 жыл бұрын
I thought the hug ending was so poignant and emotional, it brought tears to my eyes. You could tell his persona was changed greatly, her mentioning him being on Prozac and hence his mood change. He was definitely a sociopath. But at the end, the way they embraced powerfully, it made me feel that he was repentant of his deed and she forgave him. I think the reason why he didn’t kill her was that she was the only one he really loved deep down inside, through all his rage, and always secretly craved her attention and approval his entire life. He hated her and he hated himself, two people signifying being one. The ending signified a healing process for both of them emotionally. It was beautiful.
@Hokuto_Tongi
4 жыл бұрын
🤣 you and Kevin are a BIIIIIITCH
@ruthlessog9098
3 жыл бұрын
False, he didn’t kill her because she hated him from day one. His father and brother loved him so he killed them to spite his mother because she loved them more than she loved him
@Ivy-kj6yp
Жыл бұрын
One of the cancelled lines, after the mother asked why he didnt kill her he said 'you dont kill your audience'. This proofs his deep down hatered towards his mother and his joy of making her life hell
@shilohivy4590
Ай бұрын
Such a great scene. I also loved the book.
@pauleenwardale6052
Жыл бұрын
fantastic movie
@darkred1438
2 жыл бұрын
who knew what was to come lmao
@fridatrolle
11 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean but i don't think it's manipulation because i don't think he does it knowingly. It's just what children do when they feel scared. It just lies in humans to seek comfort in their parents when they are vulnerable.
@stua2279
4 жыл бұрын
Though i fell in love with ezra during the course of movie and developed foolish protective instincts towards him😁 i must say this ending scene sort of was satisfying. Ezra is a fantastic actor
@HighStrangeDrifter
Ай бұрын
The Flash’s darkest timeline.
@slayerette86m
11 жыл бұрын
I was in your shoes once. I don't think anyone has it easy. It's hard living in this world, but I go on, living. Good luck.
@LINX29X92
8 жыл бұрын
Seems like an odd comparison but kinda see a weird connection between Kevin and Kylo Ren? Anyone?
@MrRipley222
8 жыл бұрын
yep I thought the same, the two actors even look similar
@Cinemabuff97
8 жыл бұрын
True. Really true, and similar.
@projectboylp
8 жыл бұрын
well they both killed their dad lol
@elizabethrpheasant8526
7 жыл бұрын
I'm both sad and happy that you made that comment
@brimichelle6271
7 жыл бұрын
YES, but I would say the difference is that Kylo Ren is less of a psychopath and moreso the victim of intense emotional and psychological manipulation (at the hands of Snoke). Kylo is just a very confused, vulnerable young man in a lot of pain. Kevin seems downright evil and remorseless.
@jacklynch3333
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Is this scene from Ezra in 2022?
@lisabrown3715
2 жыл бұрын
The amount of time it takes Eva to actually speak speaks volumes. He finally looked at Her though, probably as he felt she was finally looking at Him . Same as when they were sat on the floor of their big new Home . Looked at each other, said nothing and both looked away again in sync
@paytonl3485
6 жыл бұрын
all these comments make me feel like i'm reading the short responses in a language arts class
@callmehuman1664
6 жыл бұрын
Payton L HHAHAHAHAHA SAME
@melz345
6 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO
@ssh1487
6 жыл бұрын
What in the flying fuck is a language arts class
@JoYTChannel
6 жыл бұрын
S Sh english class
@bassheaux139
6 жыл бұрын
S Sh Is your IQ that low? It’s English class.
@NorthernTemplar
7 жыл бұрын
This scene was haunting. The realization that his whole life he was untouchable, he was able to do whatever he wanted, and like a true psychopath he manipulated that. Now he's about to turn legal age, and being as intelligent as he is, realizes he's going to have to go to a place where he's going to have to deal with monsters far worse than him. For the first time in his life, he's afraid.
@alyssabrown6877
7 жыл бұрын
Ryan M well said.
@nope7305
6 жыл бұрын
As well as he doesn't feel the power anymore, he killed all those people what he had been aiming to do was finished and realised there was no outcome for it
@RD-fm2wk
6 жыл бұрын
My reading was that he was trying to manipulate her here too by pretending vulnerability...
@foolslayer9416
6 жыл бұрын
Good, he should be afraid. He murdered his father and his little sister without a thought, people like him should live in fear.
@atlaskat7980
6 жыл бұрын
Worse than him? Not many out there that are worse than him.
@Sir_Orangeness
2 жыл бұрын
Ezra Miller has been method acting this role for a bit too long
@Kevin_Kennelly
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think we'll be seeing much more of him on screen.
@Ryebread3325
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@endor8witch
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin_Kennelly you will. Give it a couple more years.
@faithonwumere4204
2 жыл бұрын
As many other actors
@splashpit
2 жыл бұрын
One trick pony
@pastafan123
10 жыл бұрын
To the people saying, "Kevin didn't kill his mother because he loves her and is the only one he truly respects" you're wrong. Sorry, but it's true. The reason he didn't kill her is because he wants her to suffer. Imagine having a family, and one kid is a psycho in jail, and your husband is dead, AND your daughter is dead because of him. Now, Eva has no one to care about. Obviously, this would be an almost impossible thing to ever get over. Also, by being the mom of the kid that murdered a bunch of people, made EVERYBODY hate Eva. He wants her to suffer.
@xxTheCatsMeow
10 жыл бұрын
I agree. He had a deep hatred for her, and knew that taking away the only 2 people she loved would leave her alone and cause her pain, and by killing his classmates he knew it would cause a huge media frenzy that would ruin her life after; friends, jobs, etc.
@xxTheCatsMeow
10 жыл бұрын
But I think when she asks him why he did it, and he responds, "I used to think I knew but now I'm not so sure." Meaning he thought he hated her, and that was the reason for his actions, but now that he's going to an adult jail, and he's scared, alone, and vulnerable(like when he was sick), he's not too sure.
@jaymads4915
10 жыл бұрын
I disagree Talking to his mom at the end, I think he was scared to express his love for his mother and that brought hatred, he used to think he knew he hated his mom, going to big boy jail he realizes how much he loves her and how vunerable he is. He did love his mother, was just scared of real emotions. thats why he said he used to think he knew. But its impossible to say really.
@pastafan123
10 жыл бұрын
Justin Madden Why would he make his mom suffer countless times then?
@jaymads4915
10 жыл бұрын
because he was defensive and love evokes vunerability, and that scared him, fear evokes anger and in the case of someone who is obviously mentally ill, it would manifest in bizarre behaviour like that. just my opinion
@caseyd7724
6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the name of the song that plays at the end is called “Mothers last words to her son”
@jes4408
5 жыл бұрын
so.... she's gonna commit suicide, hence the blinding light.
@alexhunder2373
5 жыл бұрын
@@jes4408 no
@belledelphine9692
5 жыл бұрын
doomsday let’s hope she doesn’t-
@isadora4237
4 жыл бұрын
@@jes4408 I was actually wondering why she didn't commit suicide in the movie... She's gone through so much, her family is dead, everyone in town hates her and think she was indirectly responsible for the massacre... It should be soul crushing and it's surprising that she didn't suicide. My guess is: by killing herself, she would be giving Kevin what he wants, and she doesn't want that.
@alanna6034
4 жыл бұрын
@@isadora4237 yeah that is true
@PunkExMachina
11 жыл бұрын
I think this scene shows Kevin being terrified. I don't believe that he shows remorse rather he shows confusion over his actions he knows he wanted to but he's not sure why. And now that he's screwed in prison he leans on the only thing he has left his mother. All of this because of fear.
@xmcj9951
7 жыл бұрын
PunkExMachina Exactly!!
@alex-iz5jv
6 жыл бұрын
I've never watched this movie but fear pf what?
@prvotri8253
6 жыл бұрын
{cookiemonster} Stu:Dio fear of what is waiting for him
@JackyMan22
6 жыл бұрын
something tells me that kevin's mom knew that she would have to face this. Could it be possible she was hiding her true face from something kevin didn't knew entirely? Maybe her Mom is more of a monster than he really is..
@MeowHelloKitty
6 жыл бұрын
The audiobook is on KZitem and explains the story so much better than the movie. There is more to the ending in the book. It’s a wonderful book, I highly recommend reading it or listening to it.
@fishmilk1026
7 жыл бұрын
This movie is so uncomfortable and disturbing. It has an all around unnerving feeling that you just can't shake even when the movie is over and done with. I truly do love this movie but the feeling it gives off is hard to stomach.
@ed-210
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This and David Fincher movies always make me uncomfortable.
@shapes9495
4 жыл бұрын
ive been wanting to feel that feeling since worlds greatest dad
@lianawang4219
4 жыл бұрын
Final lines of book: "Because after three days short of eighteen years, I can finally announce that I am too exhausted and too confused and too lonely to keep fighting, and if only out of desperation or even laziness I love my son. He has five grim years left to serve in an adult penitentiary, and I cannot vouch for what will walk out the other side. But in the meantime, there is a second bedroom in my serviceable apartment. The bedspread is plain. A copy of Robin Hood lies on the bookshelf. And the sheets are clean."
@ipreferfantasylife8683
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm missing something, but if he murdered like a dozen people wouldn't that mean he's basically be in prison for life?
@lianawang4219
2 жыл бұрын
@@ipreferfantasylife8683 Iirc he timed it right so that he wasn't 16 yet. He was given a more lenient sentencing (but had to be transferred to the adult penitentiary after he turned 18)
@jacobrobson8920
2 жыл бұрын
@@ipreferfantasylife8683 in the book it’s stated that he only got a 7 year sentence after successfully arguing in court that Prozac caused him to murder his classmates
@kitkatherine23
2 жыл бұрын
@@ipreferfantasylife8683 It definetly depends on the prosecution, the charges, and the judge. He was a minor, first offender, and probably had a decent lawyer, its very likely hed get minimum for a lesser sentencing than certain sentencings and would probably be given less time for good behavior.
@kitkatherine23
2 жыл бұрын
I know mothers are sometimes not in control when it comes to loving their children, i get that. But accepting them into your home, after that and knowing that he probably will be the same, is extremely weird to me.
@Sherb993
10 жыл бұрын
I really like how the mother walks into the light at the very end. Didn't really catch that the first time, but I interpret it as her acceptance of Kevin and her new life because of him. After hearing Kevin say he doesn't know why he did it anymore (suggesting that he was/is a sociopath and just wanted her to feel immense pain simply for his own pleasure), it gives her a sense of peace, or closure, with the whole situation and she can finally stop letting it control her life.
@misterbobby8913
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely and honestly think that just simplifying this as labeling him a sociopath is ridiculous and such an oversimplification.
@misterbobby8913
Жыл бұрын
"simply for his own pleasure" is also such an oversimplification.
@blue-sq7tj
Жыл бұрын
@@misterbobby8913i think he wanted her attention
@misterbobby8913
Жыл бұрын
@@blue-sq7tj definitely
@InkAndPoet
10 ай бұрын
I think just her sitting in the chair he usually sat at was indication enough that she wasn't going to let him control her life.
@quetzaltechno1708
7 жыл бұрын
"I use to think I knew. Now I'm not so sure" Best quote of the movie
@skiffle8084
3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@isaacmurillo9139
5 ай бұрын
Is there a meaning to why he said this? Or am I overthinking it?
@Kinship1
2 ай бұрын
@@isaacmurillo9139I think he always thought his mother hated him, that's why he was so awful to her, that's why he killed all those people and not her - to punish her. But after everything she still visits him. He's scared of going to the big boys prison and feels real fear for the 1st time. She is still there. He realises she had always loved him and still does.
@puplover7991
9 жыл бұрын
In the book, when she hugs him, his face in kind of buried in her neck for a moment. She thinks she hears him say "I'm sorry, Mom." As well done as the movie was, the book blows it out of the water. Can't recommend it enough.
@xenawarriorprincess4495
7 жыл бұрын
pup lover didn't know it was a book! Time to read it omg
@Aivottaja
7 жыл бұрын
He's not sorry. He's trying to compromise because he's afraid of going to a real prison.
@guernican
7 жыл бұрын
Does it really matter?
@damiannygarrido9177
7 жыл бұрын
I did t know there was a book
@alghanekar313
6 жыл бұрын
Yea well the movie took me 2 hours to watch and it didn't require reading. Sorry, I couldn't resist the Jim Gaffigan line.
@luish.3188
9 жыл бұрын
Curious how a talented actor can prove his skills in such a short scene. Ezra Miller is an amazing actor.
@Cinemabuff97
8 жыл бұрын
+Dafty Agreed. That's what I was thinking when I watched this movie.
@koojoe1178
8 жыл бұрын
+Christian 4_Realzz I watched it because I wanted to see if he could be the flash and I found a dark corner that no one likes to look at because it makes you think about life
@GeorgeMillerUSA
7 жыл бұрын
And underrated.
@Choices2aa
6 жыл бұрын
Ezra Miller is the Flash! You think its possible for Kevin to be screwed up and the reason why he killed his classmates was b/c he hated the school and his parents! This movie was messed up and the mother pays the price for what Kevin did! Reminds me of Columbine April 20 1999 !
@thewebwraith6141
5 жыл бұрын
And a really good "masturbater"
@taleoftwowolves74
Жыл бұрын
I like the implication that Eva doesn't let Kevin get to her anymore. She CHOOSES to hug him, he doesn't manipulate her. She demands to know why and she sarcastically asks if he's nervous. She forgives him for making her life hell and in doing so she gets a small victory. Kevin can't hurt her anymore, even after taking everything away from her
@bbutler8977
Жыл бұрын
Best most insightful comment on this page. The highest up votes here have gone to those w/their no experience/understanding of what you saw and the book validates.
@damianstarks3338
6 ай бұрын
You are talking nothing but facts here
@marcioroberto9820
8 жыл бұрын
It' almost like... She is dead inside.
@Justinhulk
6 жыл бұрын
she hates her son, before and after. and he killed her husband and daugher so yea. she is dead inside
@princessofnada87j25
5 жыл бұрын
Her son also killed other people's kids
@godzilla4005
5 жыл бұрын
She's tired.
@belledelphine9692
5 жыл бұрын
Justinhulk yet she stayed with him. i think Kevin somewhat respects her for that, for staying with him even after he ruined her entire life.
@Thrillseeker8922
5 жыл бұрын
Isn’t she?
@Svr2021playit
2 жыл бұрын
10 years: Ezra Miller is probably heading to prison
@mridlon1634
2 жыл бұрын
Better get ready for some cheekbusting! 😅
@svagrod
2 жыл бұрын
@@mridlon1634 ,,,he's done that already !
@PalmurcioWorld
6 жыл бұрын
Ezra Miller should had won all the awards for this performance.
@Wis_Dom
2 жыл бұрын
Not really, he just played himself.
@SkyBrightGames
Жыл бұрын
@Love, Rick go watch spatnz ezra miller
@ilaypipefr6675
Жыл бұрын
@@Wis_Domlame ahh joke
@Wis_Dom
Жыл бұрын
@@ilaypipefr6675 11 months old and it still triggered you? It must be pretty effective. Or you are just THAT pathetic. LMFAO!
@hightechterror2859
7 жыл бұрын
"I used to think I knew, now I'm not so sure." Such a hauntingly beautiful line, making me feel sympathy for a murderer, fuck I love this film
@isaacs8783
7 жыл бұрын
Lewis Reeves so do I
@222222ania
6 жыл бұрын
Kevin is not just a murderer he is a psychopath. Manipulative, lacking empathy, egocentrism: he has all of that. He also killed a hamster which is a typical pattern psychopaths take before killing humans.
@TimeandMonotony
5 жыл бұрын
@@sylvia8112 Wow I hope you're joking. Feeling sorry for a fictional character, even one as terrible as Kevin, makes someone evil? What the fuck?
@banquetoftheleviathan1404
3 жыл бұрын
That’s important people’s tendency to dehumanize these people is why it keeps happening. I mean if someone’s just a monster how to u fix that in contrast to actually understanding the psychology so that treatment can be pursued.
@taleoftwowolves74
Жыл бұрын
@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 Most psychopaths aren't murderers, a minority of them are but most live like normal people. However ALL of them are selfish, narcissistic, manipulative and difficult to be around, that's just in their nature unfortunately
@pep9312
7 жыл бұрын
I just watched this and it strikes me as important that the mother keeps visiting him in prison, despite their disturbing past, the murders, and the way he continues to try to make things as uncomfortable as possible and antagonistic between them... he hates her, he destroyed everything she loved, but she still comes to visit him... and you get the impression she visits regularly. It would be so much more comfortable and easy for her to stay away and try to forget him. I think this is important. It could mean many things... possibly this is the only way she has shown devotion / emotional support to him, despite him deserving none of it. He is afraid of what is to come in the general prison and all he has in the world is his mother, the person he has hated and tried to destroy. Has she been waiting all this time for a emotional confession? an apology? an acknowledgment of guilt? He gave her nothing in the end, but she was able to accept it, warmly hug him and move on with her life into the white light of the open door... Pretty profound and disturbing.
@nduisimelane2748
6 жыл бұрын
Pep Hau I watched this scene and was amazed too at how her kept going back to see him and then it hit me.... She's a mother. I think there's certainly a supernatural bond that forms between a true parent and a child (blood or adopted doesn't matter). This is her some and he's all her has left. I think even though she was initially a bad mother, she truly did try over and over again to connect with him because of the unseen bond that ties them. despite the horrendous things he's done... He. Is. Her. Son. And he may have not given her a verbal apology or sign of remorse but his words "I don't know anymore" are a sign of a step in the right direction .... Lol, I could go on... I'll stop now.
@dremid4456
5 жыл бұрын
Disagree. She asked him "why", and he actually did confess that he's "not sure anymore", admitting that, no, he didn't "manage everything so well". And there are deliberate, non-verbal things going on here too. She actually nods affirmatively after he responds to her question, if you look closely. And, when they go to hug, he does it like a little kid with both arms lowered (since the adult will assumedly be taller), even though - ergonomically - he's a bit bigger than she is. And she goes into it w/ both arms on top, as if to smother him w/ a blanket for comfort and security (before he's tossed into the lion's den). So, IMO that was the "give" and the "accept". He essentially rolls the ball to her, and now she gets to decide whether to acknowledge it or not. He admits (in few words) that he messed up, that he's scared and needs her. She embraces him to show that she's still "there" for him, that he's not alone.
@_Cujo_
4 жыл бұрын
When he admits that he doesn't know why he did it anymore, he's releasing the false narrative that he did it because he hates her so much. That's what he means. He's been using her as a scapegoat for all the emotional torture he puts her through for years, and when he finally abandons that, you can see the relief on her face. That is why she is able to move on. She keeps visiting him before because even though it is torture to her, she believes he deserves to get the chance to inflict pain on her for all the pain she supposedly inflicted on him. She irons his shirts and keeps his room clean to hurt herself as well. She takes all the slaps and abuse the others hurl at her because she believes it is penance. At that moment, he finally told her that she hadn't just suffered "enough," she never needed to suffer at all. Why he did this, we can only guess. But it is redemptive for her.
@KatjaNX
4 жыл бұрын
@@_Cujo_ My god how perfectly you described it. This is exactly how I interpret it as well but wouldn't have been able to put it into words.
@MoodKapProductions
2 жыл бұрын
I know why you're reading the recent comments
@brianawhittaker8152
2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@stalsthetic9500
2 жыл бұрын
Mood Kap lmao
@rippinghouse
9 жыл бұрын
this is one of the best endings to a psychological thriller i've ever seen
@lovelostfashion
10 жыл бұрын
such a powerful scene
@rorygilmartinr919
10 жыл бұрын
To the people who think that the sadistic and psychopathic Kevin wouldn't have killed if he was disciplined--- You shouldn't expect a cat to act like a mouse, regardless of how you treat it; the cat is a cat. Kevin is a predator and although therapy could've helped he would still lack affective empathy, remorse and would be just as manipulative as he was in the film+book
@furiousape7717
5 жыл бұрын
Rory Gilmartinr making a metaphor an using it as an argument is completely flawed. There’s a reason when doing studies in human behavior they don’t come to a conclusion by just making a metaphor that sounds nice
@lrn_news9171
5 жыл бұрын
Aiden R He's right though
@lrn_news9171
5 жыл бұрын
Rory Gilmartinr Therapy doesn't help psychopaths, they've been shown to be more likely to reoffend when their given therapy in prison.
@belledelphine9692
5 жыл бұрын
LRN_News I’m sorry but my dumb ass is confused on whether Kevin is a psychopath or a sociopath. I know there’s a difference but there’s a lot of comments that kind of blur the lines between the two. Please explain-
@saya1720_
4 жыл бұрын
Those people just want to be edgy...ignore them.
@lisaellis2593
2 жыл бұрын
We need to talk about, Ezra Miller!
@Kevin_Kennelly
2 жыл бұрын
The best talk is to stop watching his movies.
@britbrat1127
2 жыл бұрын
God I love Tilda Swinton. She’s so underrated. From Constantine to Narnia she’s a true master of her craft and I’m not one to gush about celebrities 👏🏽🙌🏽
@PaddyMcMe
Жыл бұрын
IKR? I keep thinking What Would Gabriel Do?
@lunaplaysgames7674
2 жыл бұрын
Ezra Miller definitely took this character to heart these last couple of years
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