The two times I've gotten most stomped in this format was during and then a draft a week or so after prerelease. In both cases I was playing an Abzan aggro midrange value deck centered in green - theoretically the best deck in the format - against an Izzet second spell deck piloted by the best player at my LGS. Both times I went 4-2 for games, only losing to the Izzet player. The theory I'm developing is that that interaction is why blue (and if I wanna indulge my tin hattedness, red too) is considered bad in the format, but why notably good players like LSV love it - it's hard to play with, but the heights when it's built and played correctly are atmospheric and feel like an honest to Rosewater storm deck. Green is the best in part because it's not especially hard to build or play a green value deck in this format, and for most mere mortal players, including myself, I just can't player blue well enough in this format to make it sing, and so it ends up collapsing. As to whether this makes for a GOOD format, I think it does, because it's giving high level players an opportunity to play some absolutely WILD high powered stuff in Izzet without making it an utterly dominant deck.
@pietarimajuri9753
4 ай бұрын
Constructive criticism for the show in general: At this point into the format it is reasonable to assume that big enough portion of the listeners are hard core draft grinders, so that you don't need to read every common verbatim during your round table segments. LR doesn't read the cards through after a couple episodes, and I haven't ever felt it hinders my ability to follow the discussion. We know what Patient Naturalist does at this point. Thanks for the podcast!
@iSniplikeaboss
4 ай бұрын
It was an honor to be featured in the JLK What's the Play! Super interesting hearing your thoughts and finding a better line than me 😅 I was looking for snakeskin veil all of pack 2 and 3 and didn't see any unfortunately, otherwise I would have snap picked one.
@jdeaconl
4 ай бұрын
Have you guys come down on arid archway? It seemed promising week 1, but I haven't been a fan lately
@LordsofLimited
4 ай бұрын
Agreed, It's the same reason things like Vault Plunderer and Wolverine are only okay. 2-for-1s and incremental advantage aren't anything special in this format.
@SnailArg
4 ай бұрын
I played a lot UW since the beginning and I'm surprised you didnt talk about Armored Armadillo. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its good, but its kind of an "at home" Canyon Crab. It walls almost everything early game and if they throw a pump spell to kill it you really dont care. Also, the threat of activation sometimes will prevent your opponents from attacking, and that goes hand in hand with the "draw-go" style decks like UW since you tend to have open mana.
@LordsofLimited
4 ай бұрын
Haven't cast it yet, but I'll be on the lookout next time I'm in UW!
@404clichE
4 ай бұрын
Armadillo has been a sleeper OP card for me as well, I’ve had two drafts where I picked up a Fell the Mighty and Armadillo leaves a body behind and removes their board when used with it. Great for those late game moments where both decks are in top deck mode
@allengaible6436
4 ай бұрын
Hmmm, I had a different takeaway this weekend after 4 sealed trys and the day 2 first draft. I played alot of GR and was very happy with it. I know draft is a different beast than sealed, but every sealed started with "Let's put blue in the garbage."
@tedhand6237
4 ай бұрын
I still can't figure out for the life of me what the heck is supposed to pull me into blue. Even when I open a bomb and blue seems open, I never seem to end up finding enough good blue stuff in the draft to make it worth it.
@civi5sc2
4 ай бұрын
Did you have any luck reaching Cuneo? Would love to hear more from him 😊 Oh nvm; nice!
@bruinfan05
4 ай бұрын
Algo
@KeatonBurneyMusic
4 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me why they love Haunting for its ability to pass and get a 3/3 flyer, but they hate Lightfoot for its ability to pass, DRAW a card, and be 3/3 vigilance? That card has been a house for and against me endlessly. It’s emergent haunting on steroids.
@KeatonBurneyMusic
4 ай бұрын
Just saying Ethan says he’s caught up on the Draw Go life but said the pass draw a card that slams for 3 a turn was quite terrible
@Nouxatar
4 ай бұрын
I mean, two mana vs. four mana is a pretty big difference.
@KeatonBurneyMusic
4 ай бұрын
@@Nouxatar 2 more mana for a vigilance, forever card draw engine seems pretty big too
@Fanga1337
4 ай бұрын
I really like the temur version of the blue red deck, as a slower version. It compliments the main weakness of blue red, which is stats. So you're more equiped to go toe to toe with the popular green decks. This way you can cast take the fall to actually blow out their creatures, rather than just mitigate damage. While enhancing the plot theme Besides that, I think there's a small a rock paper scissors theme going on statt wise. The Loanshark for instance, blocks awkwardly against green's big creatures, but often stabilises you against outlaws/aggro. The aggro version of blue red is kind of hit or miss for me. I find it hard to survive beatdowns when I'm on the draw, so I'm often inclined to slot in a crab and compromise on aggression. If only the Razzle Dazzler were an outlaw though... In the end I think he serves better as a sneaky win con that you often don't even want to cast on turn 2 instead.
@MrVodka7up
4 ай бұрын
IMHO the play I would do is doc on 2, bill on 3, land in play and counter on bill, to protect him from desert's due. I've had that happen to me.
@danielhenry6777
4 ай бұрын
only u/r deck i trophied with was a heavy control deck with stoic sphinx
@ogolthorp
4 ай бұрын
UR relies on the uncommons.slick sequence and kraum are pretty huge. As well as lockpickers, stitchers, and the bounce 2 creatures spell to help with tempo and get more value and help with double spelling.
@danielhenry6777
4 ай бұрын
@@ogolthorp you can draft the deck multiple ways, even the guy in the video talks about how you draft a more controllable deck.
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