If you're shit at the game and struggle holding onto powerful weapons.
@malum9478
Жыл бұрын
it's not.
@netweed09
Жыл бұрын
@@malum9478 Thank you. I always find it sad that they sort of acknowledge and are aware of the facts (@ 9:32) - but then suddenly fear creeps in - the fear of going against the grain of the 'majority' opinion and putting out a (gasp) _Criticism video of Breath of the Wild_ - and in the end just go with the flow and say ''eh, it's Finee''. Sigh of the Wild.
@feroxdeus1998
3 жыл бұрын
I wish that the Champion weapons didn't break completely cause it makes me feel like if I do break them and craft new ones it's not the actual weapon used by the respective champion. It would be much better if they rather went into a damaged state where you would have to go get them repaired, not crafted, at their respective villages.
@oomar4597
3 жыл бұрын
I din't use any champion weapons but instead but them in my house
@feroxdeus1998
3 жыл бұрын
@@oomar4597 same lol
@impractically728
3 жыл бұрын
great eagle bow is OP and the only one I really use, hylian shield outclasses daybreaker and I can constantly buy one from tarrey town. of course I use other bows like lynel and ancient but i always like having an eagle bow because of the draw time.
@moshowail3567
3 жыл бұрын
@@impractically728 TBH I literally only used the eagle bow like a couple times then hung it up in my house, I always had one ancient bow, and filled the rest with 5 shot lynal bows
@riotangel4701
3 жыл бұрын
Problem with champion weapons is they don't really scale. I'm decked out with lynel gear instead.
@crimsoncrimsoned609
3 жыл бұрын
I've never known a game where my watering can breaks, and my shoes never wear down Until ACnh
@TheEggoEffect
3 жыл бұрын
Another point about BotW’s durability system ties into the fact that you can just run to the castle whenever you want. The two most powerful types of weapons in the game are the Royal Guard weapons and Savage Lynel weapons. The former can be found just lying around in Hyrule Castle, where the player can pick them up after only a couple of hours in the game. However, to prevent them from one-shotting every enemy in the early game, the Royal Guard weapons have some of the lowest durability. The Savage Lynel weapons, on the other hand, are much more difficult to obtain. The player needs to both progress enough for white Lynels to spawn, and then they need to actually kill the Lynel, which any new player can confirm is no easy task. Savage Lynel weapons have much higher durability than Royal Guard weapons due to how difficult they are to acquire.
@Buglin_Burger7878
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Savage Lynel weapons can be out damaged by Guardian++ and Ancient Armor (The 80% damage boost) and combined with food which provides an 30% increase to that total damage is if it was 100% netting you close to 234% damage. Lynel weapons aren't actually worth the effort at all.
@amancioxavier9860
3 жыл бұрын
@@Buglin_Burger7878 thats all fun and games, but for a casual player, you dont have an infinite supply of ancient cores.
@moshowail3567
3 жыл бұрын
@@amancioxavier9860 you get them from the major tests of strength
@amancioxavier9860
2 жыл бұрын
@@moshowail3567 you're right, i mistook for the crafted ones, my bad.
@jahredharrison4069
2 жыл бұрын
This except 90% of the weapons in the castle armouries are standard royal weapons which last 100 times as long as royal guard weapons but only do like 1% less damage.
@SkywardShoe
3 жыл бұрын
I decided early on to really lean into weapons as temporary expendable tools that are meant to be replaced. Any time a weapon was low on durability I chucked it at the strongest or most easily hit enemy nearby for the double damage and stagger. Weak weapons dropped by enemies essentially became one time use throwing knives meant to keep enemies off balance as well. I'd also try to keep a mixture of stronger and weaker weapons on hand so that I didn't waste a high tier weapon on a blue Bokoblin or some skeletons, which meant that nearly any kind of weapon could be useful even in the endgame. When I did find a stronger enemy I didn't worry about breaking my good weapons because that's what they were for, and I knew I could always get more. I'm sure this doesn't fit everyone's playstyle but BotW seems to just encourage an aggressive playstyle where you don't worry too much about holding onto old gear. It's all meant to be used, so use it and don't stress about running out. My most memorable fights from the game involved constantly tossing weapons and stealing dropped ones from one enemy only to toss it at another to make it drop its weapon. When you get a chain of attacks going like that it is really fun.
@charlieriback
2 жыл бұрын
i’m with you 100%! When you embrace that sense of change and renewal the game becomes a lot more fun. You learn that every weapon has some sort of use, especially badly damaged ones. Perfect for chucking!
@bravebiird
3 жыл бұрын
honestly, botw's durability system didn't bother me for the longest time, but once i got far into my initial playthrough i got rather tired of the lack of weapon variety/versatility to back up how frequently they drop having only 3 extremely basic movesets with variation only found through elements and interactions with the environment made discovering new weapons extremely underwhelming. the best weapons in the game were still easy to consistently obtain, and they play exactly the same as everything else. this combined with the amount of and limited use of ore made obtaining treasure feel rather less rewarding to me than usual zelda games
@giratina6665
3 жыл бұрын
There should have been more special sub types to weapons such as the wind cutter and variations of those that last to end-game and aren't locked to mid-game or only early-game
@zappodude7591
3 жыл бұрын
Breakable weapons pretty much necessitate bland design - losing any particular weapon can't be too heartbreaking, so no particular weapon can be too interesting.
@gold_spin1639
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like that’s more a problem with the weapons rather than the durability. I mean, Zelda has never been a series about combat, it’s more focused on being a puzzle/adventure game with light combat along the way. The simple combat achieves what it should for me, it breaks up the treks across the world.
@zappodude7591
3 жыл бұрын
@@gold_spin1639 That's true, although BOTW takes a more combat-focused approach than the rest of the series. You can see this mostly in the bosses - they're mostly about just running up and hitting them while avoiding attacks, while older Zelda bosses were essentially action-puzzles that used things like correct timing of bombs or reflectable projectiles. You don't need to figure out how to damage them so much as when to.
@Buglin_Burger7878
3 жыл бұрын
@@zappodude7591 "while older Zelda bosses were essentially action-puzzles that used things like correct timing of bombs or reflectable projectiles." Do you remember Fire Blight? Using bombs at the correct time or reflecting their projectile? Wind Blight and sniping it. Dealing with the Ice tiles and stasis with Water Blight. Magnesis for Thunder blight. This even applies to most of regular combat though it is more noticeable against Spear and Shield enemies. That is why the combat is so relatively simple. It is still designed as a puzzle game so they want you to have the tool for each puzzle. It is all the same, no more or less combat orientated. In fact it is arguably less as there are fewer forced fights.
@papertreyplz410
3 жыл бұрын
You say that healing in the middle of battle in BOTW “is the players choice.” But also you say, that if you could fix your weapon you would “have to pause every 30 seconds to fix it.” But that’s what you do anyways when you heal? Like I’m not gonna let myself die, but also I’m not gonna let my mega flame sword break either. That point didn’t work at all.
@temmie0119
Жыл бұрын
Currently weapon durability in breath of the wild is the determining factor if you can win a fight or not, because let’s face it, you aren’t going to die in one. As long as you have a lot of food you’ll never die in a fight. That’s why weapon durability is important, you have to constantly ask yourself “if I go in guns blazing against those 4 silver moblins, is it a profit? Will I get more of a reward than what I am losing, or can I find another way to kill them that’s more efficient towards saving my weapon durability.”
@TheAustinTalbert
3 ай бұрын
@@temmie0119only issue with what your saying is if your not gonna use your weapons, what are you gonna use? Bombs? If your fighting silver enemies bombs aren’t gonna do jack shit. With that being said most of the time it’s “is this worth it, no onto the next location”, that’s fuckin boring.
@Nico-zo2qd
2 жыл бұрын
I had an idea for the weapon durability system in BOTW that I'm pretty sure nobody else has talked about: instead of the durability going down with each hit, it would go down based on the damage dealt. I'm always weary of using strong weapons against weaker enemies because I don't want to waste durability on them, and my idea fixes this issue. Let's say you have a weapon that does 20 damage and has 50 durability points. Instead of breaking after attacking something 50 times, it would break after dealing 1000 damage (20x50). If you attack an enemy with 13 health and kill them, your weapon would now have 987 durability left. This way, you can take out enemies with less health without having to waste an entire durability point. I think this would make the system A LOT fairer and more realistic.
@CaptainAstronaut
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching and Don't Forget to SUBSCRIBE! And remember to never get attached hahaha *cries*
@centurosproductions8827
3 жыл бұрын
The problem with the BOTW durability system is *exactly* the same issue as I always had with Fire Emblem. It's like that Awkward Zombie comic where they agonize over not using vulneraries because "what if they need them later" and end up throwing some out from a chest because their inventory was full. The weapons seem too awesome to use lest they break, so I find myself near-exclusively using shitty bokoblin weapons and the Master Sword. Not like the final phase of the Ganon fight even uses any weapons you have on hand anyway, you just get handed the God Bow on a golden platter.
@AzureGreatheart
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you can also use the amiibo Twilight Bow, the ancient arrows, or Master Sword Beams to damage Dark Beast Ganon. It’s more of an attention to detail thing, and they could’ve made that phase significantly better while still having the light arrows thing, but there _technically_ are other ways of damaging him.
@cynicalgold9992
Жыл бұрын
"if you could repar weapons, then it would break the flow of combat because you would just pause the game every 30 seconds to repair" this point makes literally zero sense because you already have to pause the game every 30 seconds to pick a new weapon when it breaks.
@catheriner999
3 жыл бұрын
Yea, makes sense. As a chronic "I've arrived at the final boss with 99 elixirs and I will use none of them" hoarder, the weapon durability in botw didn't bother me at all. The inventory management was more irksome because I want one of everything but it just made me prioritize doing korok puzzles early on to get those expansions. There were very few times I had to go out of my way to go find multiples of a specific weapon/shield I wanted before particularly tough battles (those centaur guys...). And I really don't know how you could include such a wide variety of weapons/shields in the game *without* making them break.
@xardnaslp3171
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a hoarder too, so the weapon durability system created a new problem: i started hoarding weapons. "oh this one is cool, i don't wanna break it" "ooooh, this is rare, no way I'm using it" and now i just use the master sword for everything and wait till it's recharged, which is a fuckin idiotic mechanic btw. Not that i play botw often, i consider it an unbelievably bad game
@Rubinkys
2 жыл бұрын
@@xardnaslp3171 objectively wrong opinion 💀
@petrikhorr
Жыл бұрын
@@xardnaslp3171 bro had us with the first half then threw away all reputability after that
@zamboozle3741
3 жыл бұрын
there actually is a small incentive in BotW to break your weapons, since you actually do get a slight damage bonus if a thrown weapon breaks when it hits an enemy
@layerex3957
3 жыл бұрын
Slight? It does triple damage.
@mateo._.854
3 жыл бұрын
It also clears up an inventory space
@Elden-Bear
2 жыл бұрын
@@layerex3957 double
@noahlovotti7722
Жыл бұрын
It gets pretty miniscule in expert when your weapons can't do shit to the enemies though.
@cceider
3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the durability in the game but my only issue that isn't really the fault of the durability is how the amiibos weapons and champion weapons can break (obviously) so I have never used them because I don't want to lose them especially the amiibo weapons because it took me sooooooo long to get them, while at least the champion weapons you can craft them again.
@-siranzalot-
2 жыл бұрын
Bit something one should initially do, but on my third Playthrough I started to use Menu overloading glitches to Clone the amiibo weapons. Or rather the fierce deity sword because I actually wanted to use it instead of just having it hanged on my Wall. It's a way to get use out of them
@aridicaexmontaudon1296
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, it is known that in medieval times swords would shatter after brief skirmish
@scrapox217
3 жыл бұрын
Another problem with the BotW weapon durability system is that you find a lot of weapons in chest. When you find a chest and your reaction is dread because it's probably another weapon you have to inventory manage space for, followed by disappointment that it is indeed a weapon, then something went seriously wrong. That combined with the fact that it's now better to avoid enemy encounters all together, because why would you waste good weapons on trash mobs, worked together to turn me off the game completely. I really hope BotW 2 either completely abandons the system or reworks it so radically in a way I can't even think of, because I cannot think of a way to make weapon durability in this game fun.
@CapJackson
3 жыл бұрын
agreed totally.
@Al77343
3 жыл бұрын
One thing that helped me with that feeling is the island that takes all your stuff away. Doing that knowing that everything "wasn't mine" changed how I played, I tried to copy this mindset through out the game. Edit I killed a few too many lynels and I'm back to square one :(
@Al77343
2 жыл бұрын
@@yellowcard8100 there are so many weapons to replace those that break that you won't run out. I farmed a full inventory of lynel bows (only 15 slots) and replaced the weapons I broke fighting each lynel in no time.
@LegoManiac_101
2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree
@witherschat
Жыл бұрын
Hello from the future. The sequel really handled it much better IMO. The ability to fuse things makes it easier to replace a weapon, the different value and properties of the fuse mats increases the variety of what you can make, and the base weapons give nice bonuses that, while they depend on your playstyle, can still be half-ignored when you need a random replacement weapon.
@sem3ndem0n_73
3 жыл бұрын
Limiting ressources in video games make the player interact with the game systems more. The same goes for BOTW. Weapon’s breaking force you to get more creative with the combat or forces you to be more aggressive to kill your enemies faster with the critical hit to take their weapons. It also encourages exploration of the world to find stronger weapons. That makes the game far more engaging than it would be otherwise.
@sharkafterdark4194
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know for a fact that without the breaking mechanic I would just go around with some lynel sword with the perk for extra damage and not ever using any other type of weapon (despite there being dozens if not hundreds in the game)
@Mwarrior1991
3 жыл бұрын
That would be true, if there were more than 6 kinds of weapons and 7 kinds of monsters. Besides, I'd like to go through the whole game with a flame sword. That wouldn't be less fun than chewing through weapons each combat.
@McGeeMcGeeMcGee-g7w
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mwarrior1991 Both are true right? Limiting resources in video games does all of that if done well, sadly Botw does it so middle of the road we are constantly talking about it XD
@zerochill4096
3 жыл бұрын
It kind of had the opposite effect on me; I only explore new places for new, cool and fun stuff, not to find a bazillion weapons that I don't have enough storage capacity to take and don't offer any real differences from the same weapons I use
@BlazeEmerald
3 жыл бұрын
I can relate there, for me the weapon durability system mostly just discouraged me from actually engaging with the game's combat system whenever I could avoid it, because I would just be wasting durability on my gear that I could use for when I actually do need to fight
@RuubioRuubGaming
3 жыл бұрын
The durability system in Zelda just makes me avoid fights more then anything. Why would I use my 100 damage lynal mega sword when it’s going to break after killing two bokoblins and get replaced by a wooden club with Long throw enchantment? I feel like they should have just made more weapons with different strengths and weaknesses that the player has to choose between and remove the durability feature
@MayHugger
3 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with this.
@gold_spin1639
3 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping that at the very least, they buff the durability in 2 so that the weapons you get will at least last you a little bit longer. or perhaps rather than giving you a shitload of random weapons you build a small collection of unbreakable weapons throughout the game, each with advantages and disadvantages.
@RuubioRuubGaming
3 жыл бұрын
@@gold_spin1639 durability buff would be nice as well but I would prefer a bigger variety of weapons and maybe a smaller inventory to make the player really choose what they want to take
@Dribin
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, started playing BotW a few weeks ago and I've explored most of the map except the desert region, and every time I see an enemy camp I just avoid it now. The enemies will most likely not have weapons better than what I currently have, and the chest they guard can be a mixed bag. And when the game gives you unlimited bombs, I'm going to be taking advantage of that for weak enemies (like slimes, bats, etc.)
@They_are_Arthur
3 жыл бұрын
I always fight monsters to get their parts. Plus white or gold varieties of enemies drop rare ore which can be sold for a lot.
@Mgauge
3 жыл бұрын
I get what you’re saying, but the way it’s done now is excessive. Your weapons are so fragile that even a fairly mediocre enemy can endure enough punishment to eat through multiple weapons and usually only carry mediocre weapons in turn. So each battle is a net loss for you after a certain point, discouraging you from fighting at all, if possible. Getting a rare weapon as a reward is also blunted because you know it will be gone shortly if you actually use it, meaning that the rewards from many challenges are practically meaningless. Worse, having all weapons be irreparable consumables triggers the typical loss aversion instinct. Meaning you horde any decent weapons while only using the easily replaceable weak ones. That’s not even getting into the fact that you need some weapons for non-combat purposes, like axes, leaves, and sledgehammers. So you’re having to use one of your inventory slots just to keep one of each around before they inevitably break as well. The biggest problem is that you can’t fight at all without a weapon, so if you aren’t constantly scrounging or just have bad luck in a boss battle, you’re screwed. You don’t have even a rudimentary emergency weapon then.
@jahredharrison4069
2 жыл бұрын
Did you quit the game or something? The hammers and axes don't do any that other weapons can't do (you can cut down trees or break rocks or whatever else with pretty much anything, even bombs) and weapon durability goes way up over the course of the game in most cases. And you *can* fight without weapons, even if you don't even have a bow you can always use runes and environmental kills, bombs are always available and they can knock enemy weapons right out of their hands. And who says a temporary reward is pointless? Even if you only get to use whatever cool sword or something you got recently you could probably get another, different, reward in about that time anyway, would it really be any better to just use whatever the best reward you've gotten is for every fight without it ever going away?
@AzureGreatheart
2 жыл бұрын
“you need some weapons for non-combat purposes, like axes, leaves, and sledgehammers.” “The biggest problem is that you can’t fight at all without a weapon…” The bomb rune is your friend. Bombs can topple trees and break ore deposits, so between that and elemental effects coming in arrow form, you don’t need to take up an inventory slot for those purposes, leaving the korok leaf as the only utility weapon that you need a slot for, and I will concede that the leaf is useful enough that it probably should’ve been a rune or something. As for being unable to fight without a weapon, that is incorrect: the game gives you a lot of ways to fight without using weapons; bombs are a free 12 (24 if upgraded) damage, magnesis can be used to bonk monsters with metal objects, enemy camps have the weapons just sitting around specially so you can loot them and deprive monsters of weapons, and explosive barrels are a common sight. You can knock monster besides bosses, lynels, and lizalfos into deep water for an instant kill, and most of the loot (all of the loot besides some weapons for enemies weaker than silver, and silver and gold monsters drop gems which don’t float either) floats to the water’s surface. Between the number of options for taking out enemies while being very efficient with, or flat out not using, weapon durability, there is little risk of running out of weapons if you get creative with how you fight. I simply didn’t care about my weapons breaking; all of them are replaceable, and I get a bunch of additional (if sometimes weaker then what I have) weapons, as well as a bunch of monster parts I can sell for two different kinds of currency, use to upgrade my armor, or use to make an elixir.
@noahlovotti7722
Жыл бұрын
@@AzureGreatheart bombs wont do shit against silver enemies. You will be fighting for ages and in expert you have to be restlessly using it because they're aleays healing. Most magnesis damage is pathetic later in the game and unusable if you got multiple enemies. The motion controls can jankily smoothen your magnesis, making you completely vulnerable. Good luck using a shield during it as well. Their weapons on the other hand take massive chunks of health out of you, and can make you tumble and roll around. While that's happening they just healed the past 5 hits you did with magnesis.
@AzureGreatheart
Жыл бұрын
@@noahlovotti7722 And by the time you get to the point of the runes being useless, you shouldn't be at risk of running out of weapons anyway, as it's pretty easy to get enough korok seeds to not have to worry about running out of weapons. Most of the other forms of environmental damage still require a weapon of some kind, but the effectiveness of them will save you a lot of durability. And all of this isn't even going into the many ways of boosting your damage output, which saves you a lot of durability and time. My point was that there are a lot of ways of getting more efficient use out of your weapons, and being completely unarmed shouldn't be a threat after the earliest parts of the game. Also, if you're playing on Master Mode, you should probably be familiar enough with the game to not _need_ to rely on the runes for damage after they fall off in effectiveness.
@oxymoron02
4 ай бұрын
THIS is the right take. Especially the fact that there is no weaponless combat, and the game doesn't goddamn auto-switch when a weapon breaks, so if you're lost in the heat of the moment and don't notice, for a second or two you're doing nothing while getting pummelled by the enemy. How people can defend the durability mechanic IN ITS CURRENT FORM is beyond me. Bunch of goddamn sycophants. Reminds me of when I commented in a Subnautica forum that it's weird the game has been out for years and they never patched leviathans swimming through walls to one-hit you. Got told I know nothing about game design or coding, that the devs can't change it now, that there's nothing wrong with game enemies phasing through walls to one-hit kill a player. What a weird time we live in that people mould themselves around a game, taking any criticism against it as a blow against themselves.
@Evanz111
Жыл бұрын
Love how you absolutely called the fact that weapon fusing would become a thing a whole year before the game came out!
@smorggs7860
3 жыл бұрын
I remember the best combat encounter I had in BoTW was because of the weapon durability system. It was my second or third playthrough, and I was heading to Hateno for the first time that playthrough, when I ran into a small hoard near the broken down archery range. It was still fairly early in the game, of course, so my weapons were breaking in about the amount of time it took to kill an enemy, or at least for them to drop their weapon. This actually worked in the encounter's favor, as it meant that the weapon I was going to use for the next enemy out of the several I was up against, was likely from the last one I killed, and since the weapon type of each enemy wasn't consistent, I had to constantly switch the way I was fighting based on which weapon type I was using. This, combined with the amount of enemies (which were actually a decent threat), meant the fight was very chaotic, but I still had enough influence for me to actually be able to fight back, and so it felt like I was barely making it through off of skill alone, even though I still had the ability to just get into a corner and drop bombs on them. BoTW is all about creativity and exploration, not just of the world, but the mechanics, and the fact that you can't rely on always having a weapon makes that more prevalent.
@genshimemories6356
3 жыл бұрын
I dont have too much issues with botw durability. I just wish it wasn't the case in the endgame that I would spend almost as much time deciding what weapon to use during a fight as they break, then actually fighting the enemy.
@pforgottonsoul
2 жыл бұрын
i feel the durability system kinda makes finding cool weapons pointless, i would horde like 10 swords and never use them because i knew they wouldn't even last 5 minutes.
@billnye8760
2 жыл бұрын
But if weapons didn’t break, I would never pick up new weapons because I already have the best one.
@TheFloodFourm
Жыл бұрын
See your putting focus on the rewards and not the gameplay potential they bring. The system is not for you you’re not looking for a game so much as a loot treadmill. Players who feel they need to be rewarded to enjoy a game aren’t going to like BOTW because in it the gameplay is the reward, gameplay that includes having a sword break at an inopportune time or having to keep your eyes peeled for resources that aren’t optional. I recommend something like Skyrim for you. In that game you’re only ever getting mire gear and moving up there isn’t that constant power dynamic to have to think about you can follow a guide or something and just keep getting stronger. As a bonus the game is also really easy so you’ll never have to worry about consequences even if they do pop up.
@temmie0119
Жыл бұрын
If weapons didn’t break it would make the game super meta heavy, youd only use the best bow, and the best sword and nothing else. The Master Sword simply exists as a weapon players will have access too when they have nothing else at the moment (which is still quite rare). And that’s why there’s only 1 weapon like it
@oxymoron02
4 ай бұрын
@@TheFloodFourm You sound like a Star Citizen player.
@TheFloodFourm
4 ай бұрын
@@oxymoron02 except BOTW is complete (minus dungeons)
@Cheesehead302
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I think Animal Crossing was damn close to having it work. I enjoy the crafting system, but I think it's ridiculous that when you're end game and have even collected every fish/bug/etc and gotten golden tools they STILL break. A big problem New Horizons has is that once you've arranged your island how you want, there isn't really much to work towards at all and this durability system is another instance of it. Like, if you could get an end game set of tools that don't break, it would not only be convenient but more importantly give you something to work towards. On a related note, damn I really wish I had the desire/ a purpose to go back to my likely overgrown island. Updates that only add more cosmetics really don't do it for me when I've played so many hours.
@AzureGreatheart
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t play Animal Crossing, but isn’t the enire point of the Golden Axe in earier games that it very specifically _doesn’t_ break? They add durability to give the players more incentive to work towards the Golden Tools, but then blow it by giving those durability too, which is kinda baffling from a game design perspective.
@isaiahrivers7117
3 жыл бұрын
I probably wouldn't have a problem with the weapon durability if they would made it like the Dark Cloud series. Like in Dark Cloud the weapon you use has a meter to shows you when a weapon you're using is about to break when you attack an enemy with it but you can restore it with repair powder keeping from breaking. So they could also did that for Breath of the Wild and when a weapon you use is about to break you can use something to keep it from breaking. Heck if anything they could've put in a blacksmith or something in the game where the blacksmith can make your weapon unbreakable and you can use that weapon anytime you want without breaking but you would have to collect special materials in order for the blacksmith to do it.
@R0B1NG5
2 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree. I think durability irks the basic psychology of a lot of people quite commonly, having something permanent over having something transient is inherently more comforting. So I think you have to really nail the systems design and place in the overall game, to even make it tolerable for some people who are the most sensitive to it. I personally can find it an irritation, but at some point I have to wonder why I give something like, PP in pokemon, or ammunition, or reloading for a gun a pass. The fun stops when the ammo runs out, what is the appeal of looking around on the ground for a box of ammo, or stopping to reload every 30 seconds? Or teleporting to whatever base or facility refreshes whatever resource you are expending in any other context. In terms of the activity or time spent, I accept this sort of filler action on guns way more easily. But its really not that different from switching to a new weapon, or picking up one in the environment in Zelda. Maybe its just the commonality with which one is used and the other isn't? I feel like I shouldn't "have" to be finding a new sword in zelda. Video game melee weapons mostly don't run out, but videogame guns rarely don't have some kind of ammo/overheat/reload mechanic. In AC it did feel to me more like an irritation. It didn't work so well. It was just a very dry binary, use your tool to do the job, or it breaks and you have to go make a new one. I think its set up would have been the kind of one where one more tier of tools, maybe crafted with star peices or something, or materials obtained from a calendar event would have been the better move. Or just make it so the gold tools are that instead for a fast fix. They could be infinite and something long time players work towards. I played a lot of ACNH, I don't think I even got all the golden recipes. But removing the irritation of the system and in the process, seeming like a beneficial progression would add to the game. People would feel like each permanent tool gained was a boon to the save file. The less well executed a crafting/durability system is, the more I think you should be able to progress beyond it if you are dedicated enough. The developer should use the absence of something not great and turn it to a reward of sorts. Its a chill game, if people just want to get their island up to the point where they can just check in without the shovel breaking after hitting their first rock or whatever, they should be able to get to that point. I haven't played 3H but from older FE games I can say the durability did not bother me so much in that game. It is generally well indicated how many hits stuff has. I also kind of liked the feeling of that I was actually managing the equipment of this band of warriors, purchasing new weapons and making sure we were well supplied. Setting up individual characters with a loadout of a kind of "workhorse" weapon and a back up and an expensive powerful version of that weapon type, maybe some alternate weapon type for coverage if they have that capability etc. It sounds like 3H expanded on the system in smart ways. Botw I was mostly okay with. I managed to finish it and I did see how the expendable weapons meshed with the game design. The early weapons have pretty low durability which was initially a bit of an irritation and shock, I pretty quickly gained knowledge of weapons I liked and seemed good and had more than I could carry. From there, my hoarding mentality really drove a need to expand my inventory slots, which in turn gave the korok seed collectables massive value to me and I was really looking for them and happy to gain them. In general, before release I wondered what they could fill out an open world game with in terms of chests/treasure etc. When I thought about old zelda games and basically opening chests to get a ton of rupees that wouldn't even fit in my wallet, I was worried. But I think non permanent weapons were at least a good attempt to have more items in chests that will at least somewhat retain their value to players over time, without going down the overused f2p road of "feed this same weapon and a bunch of gold to its self to improve it 2.5%" I think the combat in zelda on its face is a little basic, so looking back I also appreciate the unpredictability of "this broad sword is done, time to throw it now, switch to this other weapon, with a different move set mid fight, ok its not great against this specific enemy, what else do I have on me now, I have never used this ice wand, lets see what it does". I don't think it was perfect but at the same time, with how the rest of the game works, I find it hard to think of ways that I would improve it without some other knock on effects on aspects that I ultimately enjoyed about the game. I think more accurate durability indicators and a fallout 3 style, "salvage" one weapon to repair another copy of that weapon would be as far as I would go without changing some other aspects of the game. Maybe in the sequel they will have room to change the wider game design to accommodate bigger tweaks. At some point games are about managed irritation or problems. Its just how they are dressed up that makes the difference. If a game just gave you everything you wanted with no speedbumps or problems it wouldn't be any fun. Its up to the developer to frame it in ways that hide the tedium and express the satisfaction of what you are actually doing in a game. I think durability can have its place, it just needs a deft hand.
@burningGodzilla1
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything about Botw except the master sword. Because of the combination of lynel weapons being fairly plentiful and the ten minute cooldown, I never care to get the master sword outside of completion. Perhaps making the master sword recharge faster or max out with higher damage than sixty would make it worthwhile, but in Botw it's my go to lawn mower.
@IsLeafOn
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah ngl I only used the master sword to break rocks since it can recharge lmao
@samufinland5765
3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I think the DLC made the Master Sword way too powerful and durable, and there being only one type of weapon that powerful massively reduces weapon diversity and causes your inventory to be constantly full of weapons you don't use, because they break and the master sword doesn't, so why use them. So you just throw them away and replace them with better weapons, which you also won't use.
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
3 жыл бұрын
@@samufinland5765 the dlc making the sword good is something you have to earn through skill. If you can’t beat the dungeon then you don’t get the Giga sword. It’s not like it’s something the game just hands to you.
@samufinland5765
3 жыл бұрын
@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf It still does the exact same thing. The weapon being difficult to make broken doesn't make it ok for it to be so broken. It also gives infinite sword beams so that's something. And it's not like you have to keep doing something to keep having the upgrade, once you do it once, it'll forever be the best weapon that ruins the entire system.
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
3 жыл бұрын
@@samufinland5765 this might have actually been an issue if it was something a beginner could obtain immediately. They cannot. It takes a considerable amount of time and effort to even get the master sword, and even further so to power it up. I would assume that the only people who get this far have already beaten the game or gotten close to it. You can’t waltz over there, grab it, and suddenly kill every god that may or may not exist, you have to be at a certain point in the game where you’ve already surpassed most if not all of the challenges within. Also, it’s the legendary sword of evil’s bane my guy, it’s obviously going to be powerful. Literally a staple of the series and known for its strength against monsters. Additionally, infinite beams were always (maybe always? Can’t remember when they introduced the mechanic) possible as long as you had max health.
@bctalicorn809
3 жыл бұрын
How about being able to craft new weapons/repair badly damaged ones only when sitting at a campfire? Fixes the problem of interrupting exploration and it makes it so you can't repair mid-battle. My personal suggestion for this fix is replacing each of the Champions' powers with weapons that are treated like the master sword, that need a recharge. That way, you almost always have one of each weapon type and a shield.
@VaskoGames
3 жыл бұрын
Good thing the blades don't break in Xenoblade 2 ;)
@VGF80
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, otherwise they'll get toppled.
@IsLeafOn
3 жыл бұрын
WILD DOWN!!
@hackerman9s935
3 жыл бұрын
@@IsLeafOn SHIELD BASH!!
@sabbagecavage5690
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you brought up razbuten here, his video is the first that comes to my mind when durability in BOTW is brought up.
@ironencepersonal9634
2 жыл бұрын
Weapon durability in BOTW doesn't mean jack, and is only there to be annoying. I've never felt compelled to alter my strategy to take durability into account. I've never felt compelled to change weapon types because of weapon durability. Weapon durability is annoyingly have to pause the action to swap to a new one every 30 seconds. The game shoves weapons down your throat so often that planning around weapon/weapon loss is nonexistant because you always have another, usually identical weapon ready to go. Whenever I swap to a new weapon type (Eg. 2-handed, spear, et cetera), it's never because I'm running out of the one I'm using. The game drowns you in weapons so much, that you usually have a surplus of each type, and I've only ever decided to switch whenever I just felt like using a new weapon type. And what's with the shields and bows? The difference between them is usually minimal, and bows break ON TOP OF already having to use arrows for them. The only thing i like about it is that you have to save your elemental weapons to oneshot elemental enemies. I don't mind if durability is relegated to specifically weapons that have special properties, Otherwise I hate it, mostly because how unnecessary it is. It takes the flow out of the action.
@thespeedyyoshi
3 жыл бұрын
“I’ve done a lot of digging. Literally!” God I love your scriptwriting
@Buglin_Burger7878
3 жыл бұрын
"Ruins the pacing of combat having to pause it every 30 seconds." "Weapon repairing would be a continual interval event the player would feel annoyed and compelled to do." Switching weapons every 30 seconds because they break isn't either of those problems? IT IS LITERALLY WHAT YOU COMPLAINED ABOUT.
@TakumiJoyconBoyz
3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to pause to switch weapons. You can hot swap with the D-Pad.
@ryouskun4754
2 жыл бұрын
It literally takes half a second to swap weapon, a lot of very fancy strategies in the game actually involve doing so in rapid succession 3 to 10 times, it's not like having to go in a menu selecting the weapon and having to scroll to a repair option that may or may not require materials you may or may not have. What are you on about?
@malum9478
Жыл бұрын
@@ryouskun4754 and it would take half of a second to use an item to fix the weapon anyway. you know what they're talking about, stop playing dumb
@malum9478
Жыл бұрын
@@TakumiJoyconBoyz irrelevant. you wouldn't need to do that in the first place at all if your weapon didn't break, plus you DO need to do it when you need to stop and heal.
@ryouskun4754
Жыл бұрын
@@malum9478 did you even read my message? What if there's multiple weapons? What if you lack the material? It completely breaks the rythm of the game, I don't need to elaborate why that is poor game design.
@sydneydunaway5618
3 жыл бұрын
The biggest biggest flaw of BOTW's durability system, for me anyway, is that it's made tedious by the truly awful UI design. But other than that I like it, and not for any gameplay reason but rather thematic reasons. BOTW is all about the give and take between nature and technology and the impermanence of existence. Memories, weapons, kingdoms have all been lost to either nature, technology, or a corruption of nature/technology. You can reclaim these things but you'll never fully restore them, and in many instances they remain fleeting. I also just don't get that attached to loot the way other people seem to. Idk it's just loot, lol. As long as Link looks pretty I'm fine. That said, I disagree with you on the 'no blacksmith' point. I don't think it would detract from the core gameplay loop at all, and would feed into the technology/community as rebirth aspect of BOTW.
@moshowail3567
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, like you already go back to know locations for the spirit orbs anyway
@temmie0119
Жыл бұрын
I agree with him on the blacksmith idea, it would become a process of, oh no my weapon broke in combat, time to go to the blacksmith and repair after going 200 billion feet out in the desert so I can walk back. You can argue just using bad weapons until you get done doing what you are doing, then repairing your good stuff, but let’s say to repair something, you have to have the broken weapons remains in your inventory. If that’s the case people will only carry the best weapons in the game, and nothing else which defeats the whole use what you can vibe breath of the wild has.
@brandonohara2928
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao I just realized u had the kk slide version of plastic love by Mariya takuchi playing in the background during the animal crossing segment. Goat behavior
@Buglin_Burger7878
3 жыл бұрын
"Forces the player to think on your feet" Menu pops up which stops time in said video... ...if it didn't they'd just select the first weapon shield or bow and use that. Switching weapons isn't thinking. It is an extra step which breaks the flow of combat to use another weapon. You'll think before battle not in. You have all the time in the world to open menus.
@malum9478
Жыл бұрын
this was a mindblowingly bad argument the video made, i agree
@oxymoron02
4 ай бұрын
@@malum9478 It was obvious from the title of the video that it was going to be a shit take. Having also trawled forums, Reddit etc, all I see is two sides in this debate; The correct side; "the durability is too heavy handed and could be toned down", and the wrong side, "zomg you want no durability fucking get good u scrub".
@Uhcip
2 жыл бұрын
BOTW's durability felt like an endless loop created by forced scarcity, covered by a thin layer of smoke and mirrors. Even the boomerangs share the sword animation. Many of the things you will find in the game are similarly iterative rather than truly new which makes it feel less like exploring a world and more like an Easter egg hunt where you'll find differently shaped chocolate (and if you're unlucky, that one kinda gross chocolate that you reluctantly eat).
@greenbeentm6051
3 жыл бұрын
Animal crossing's durability system is meant to give the game a longer play time, at the cost of the fun experienced by the player. It makeda no sence
@galaxylad8152
3 жыл бұрын
Are we gonna talk about that Thunder helm play?
@Buglin_Burger7878
3 жыл бұрын
"There is so much weapon variety in this game." No there is Sword, 2-Handed, Spear, Rod, and Bow. Yes some have minor side effects... but otherwise they function all the same in combat. You can mine with bombs and cut trees with bombs remember. Their side effects with free infinite bombs are not useful. There is the elemental weapons... which still play like their counterpart but sometimes let you deal elemental effects. Otherwise known as a worse Rod and with how enemies weak to an element instantly die to it... why waste those on other common enemies?
@Salaaaad
3 жыл бұрын
You know what will never break? The amazing content! Thank you Astro!
@alexpanek4347
2 жыл бұрын
My main issue with the durability is when you run out of weapons in Zelda your only option is to run away or tedious chip damage with bombs. dark cloud on ps2 left you with a crappy short sword so you had a fighting chance and we’re still using the games intended mechanics in battle.
@petrikhorr
Жыл бұрын
but when will you actually run out of weapons? unless you're fighting multiple different monster camps/minibosses and not picking up weapons, you'll never really *run out* of weapons.
@wolffang489
3 жыл бұрын
I have fond memories of being the only one that liked the durability system in Dark Cloud for PS2. I also remember being the only one that knew what Dark Cloud was.
@nuclearscarab
3 жыл бұрын
I think BotW would satisfy a lot of people if they just allowed you to pick one weapon, maybe limited to hero weapons, in addition to the master sword that you could keep as a re-chargeable weapon. That way you would always have your favorite weapon available and would not feel bad about using it, even though you could not use all the time. Adjust recharge time as needed.
@AzureGreatheart
2 жыл бұрын
The Champion’s weapons should be repairable, and the Master Sword having limited durability is stupid; I am mostly okay with the rest of the durability system.
@via3600
Жыл бұрын
I bet fusing would be a very cool feature for the sequel, you're right
@facepwnagewtf
3 жыл бұрын
While I personally do like the durability system in BOTW i will play devils advocate, and point out one legitimate issue it does have. There can definitely come a point mostly in master mode and especially in the sword trials where to durability system becomes a huge detriment. It is very much possible to arrive at a point where you simply don't have any weapons available because they have all broken. I'm fine with weapons breaking, but I'm not ok with having to cheese a couple of Lizalfos in the master trials on Master Mode because i cant fight them in honest combat before i run out of weapons, and in a sense soft lock yourself from progressing any further.
@petrikhorr
Жыл бұрын
well.. it's called master mode
@spoolofyarn6682
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, since the weapons having limited durability eventually lead to me learning about the bomb parry.
@heyj64
3 жыл бұрын
As a means of durability indication, have the weapon's icon in the inventory show cracks around the edges the more it's damaged
@OneTrueMink
2 жыл бұрын
I think the BoTW durability system is the reason I didnt truly enjoy the game and still refuse to replay it to this day. I see the durability system as a detriment because it led me down a gameplay loop that was as followed: Get low power weapon -> Use to get more powerful weapon -> Use to get high power/unique weapon -> Store until fight with Ganon/Blight. If not Ganon or unskippable fight, avoid fighting at all costs and if I must fight, only use low power weapons/Master Sword. I truly believe that the devs had good intentions with the system, but it was very poorly implemented because it encourages players to avoid playing the game.
@eldoctoroso
3 жыл бұрын
Cpt.: Weapon Durability Me: *shivers in Mabinogi*
@BigCheeZeMan
Жыл бұрын
It's so funny the suggestions you gave for animal crossing because almost all of those are in grounded
@airiquelmeleroy
3 жыл бұрын
Simple. Add a *very* expensive repair system using resources at campfires, and the shards from broken weapons (from that other video you mentioned). 1. Adds a use for wood and making campfires 2. Incentiveses breaking multiple weapons, and keeps the flow going 3. Grants you the ability to repair and keep that one or two veeeery powerful weapon that has that veeery rare enhancement on it (and that you personally like a lot) 4. No blacksmith/travel needed. Though, it could be a "learnable" skill or something 5. All the high-end weaponns can't be repaired this way (champion weapons, robbie weapons, royal guard, savage lynel stuff, etc). Elemental stuff would of course need the corresponding ore... but come on, they are FUN, not poweful, half of the powerful enemies are immune to the elements XD This proposal isn't for my greedy hands to keep hold of my hoarding tendencies... it's just to have an actual use for the rare collectibles and ores that after being used to get the gerudo jewels and upgrade some armor... become ruppees that are also worthless by the end game
@SayisSpeakin
2 жыл бұрын
i think it'd be really cool if you could use the materials/ores you collected throughout the game to repair/upgrade your weapons say at every stable? Like i completely get not wanting to go back and forth between one location throughout the game but i still think that a weapon repair/upgrade system would be a great addition to botw.
@enderethan229
Жыл бұрын
I think the issue with BotW’s durability is that every weapon is just similar enough to incentivize the usage of your weakest weapon. I had a solid collection of at least seven Savage Lynel Crushers in my pocket for the latter half of my playtime that I never once touched out of fear of losing them. They’re strong, yeah, but I get the same gameplay out of a hammer or Royal Claymore, so unless I find an enemy that’s strong enough to warrant extra damage (I didn’t), I’ll never get to use the cool weapons, and will instead just be slightly inconvenienced with a lower damage output. A weapon breaking doesn’t make me “adjust my strategy” or “think on my feet”, it gives me half a second of annoyance before to swap to a weapon that plays exactly the same in ever way other than giving me less damage overall. If every weapon was completely different and unique, to the point where a weapon breaking was like losing access to your Smash main, *then* I’d see that argument. But as it stands, it’s more of a way to nerf your statistics until you feel like going out to get another of the same weapon.
@giantsalamander2296
2 жыл бұрын
When i played botw I liked the weapon system because you have to make choices. I really liked using elemental weapons as tools, rather than as weapons,and thats a choice you can make
@kasparasbendoraitis3625
Жыл бұрын
You called it, Tears of the Kingdom has fuseing
@sentientshadow126
2 жыл бұрын
Slight note for mechanical incentive to break weapons: an attack that breaks a weapon deals double damage. This multiplier stacks with the double damage for throwing a weapon; so if you throw a weapon and it breaks, you just did 4x damage.
@IanAnimatesBagels
3 жыл бұрын
"Thirsty chess" I'm dead
@dragonstormx
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree that repairing weapons would break the gameplay loop in Breath of the Wild since the loop is already broken by the damn rain. Most players, myself either wait for the rain to stop or just go somewhere else to rest until the rain stops.
@EnderalRocks
3 жыл бұрын
I always liked the durability system, in a game like BOTW especially, since you can go to the castle at the start of the game and get an incredible weapon.
@Flameo326
10 ай бұрын
Honestly the idea of rewarding the player for completing the divine beasts with a Champion weapon that doesn't break but does run out of energy is awesome and would help immensely with the entire design in my opinion. One of my biggest gripes about the Durability system is how temporary it is. Your weapons are directly correlated with Link's Strength. As his weapons are destroyed, he gets weaker. Having Permanent Weapons eases the burden and stress of getting weaker. If you use a really strong weapon and it breaks, you need to find that exact same weapon or just acknowledge the fact you are now weaker. Having a permanent weapon pushes that lower limit of how weak Link can possibly be at any point, easing the stress of the system, especially as the enemies get stronger. Like a Light at the end of the cavern. You may have used all your weapons but you still have Urbosa's Scimitar and Shield with you. It also pushes the player towards completing the Diving Beasts. Like yes, there is the Story reason to defeat the Divine Beasts to stop them from rampaging across Hyrule and freeing your friends and aiding you in the fight against Ganon. There's also a delayed reward in that fighting them means, again, that the fight against Ganon is easier. Making the weapons permanent would be a more direct and immediate boost to Link's strength. It also prevents any guilt tripping. I didn't use the Champion Weapons because I knew they would break and felt they were too important to even consider using in that case. Plus repairing is still pretty expensive. It's also just very poetic. These are the Champion's Weapons... The last remnants of your friends and their fight against Ganon. Yet here you are using them in their stead preparing to fight Ganon with them right by your side. If there really is a concern about balancing issues... Those can be pretty easily fixed or messed around with. Making the Champion Weapons weaker, making the Divine Beasts stronger. Making them not reduce Ganon's health and only eliminate the Blights, etc. Plenty of options to tweak and test for any balancing issues... Overall having more permanent weapons would offer a buffer for players who dislike the durability system while still retaining the core of the system.
@Kurono_Alien
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you can have infinite durability and even recharge the master sword fully before it breaks just by entering and exiting the Master Trials is just really funny in the context of this video lmfao. Biggoron sword, Twilight Bow, and Hylian shield, look it up if you have breakable item woes
@henryhunter8068
2 жыл бұрын
Quote: "But mister spaceman! I hear some of you ask. Why isn't there a way to repair my weapons? You collect all sorts of ore and stuff. Why can't I use that fix some of my damaged or broken weapons like in other games? This might sound like an obvious inclusion, but I feel like it would kind of ruin the pacing of combat if your weapon was about to break you would pause the game every thirty seconds and fix it yourself. What would even be the point of having them break at all. And sure, you can already pause the game the eat and heal if you take damage, but that's something the player chooses to do vs weapon repairing would be a consistent interval event that the player would feel compelled and annoyed to do." So, healing is something the player chooses to do? Meanwhile repairing a weapon is what would be mandatory, and the player would feel compelled to do. Healing when you have one heart out of 14 left, nah, that's a choice, you might choose to just die also, both are viable. But repairing your weapon, that you feel compelled to. Also it would break the flow of combat, but your weapon breaking and going to the inventory to check which weapon to use, that doesn't break the flow of combat. What? I get people want the game they like to be good, but sometimes the games you like have bad parts, or poor design choices. This is one of them, there's nothing good added by the durability system as implemented in BotW, that couldn't be added in another way without annoyance of the extremely limited durability. Want to make people switch weapons? Make enemies weak to some of them, resistant to some of them so you have to choose another. Want people to manage resources? Add consumables that buff your weapon or add elemental damage to a weapon for a number of hits. Want people to experiment? Have more than four move sets and nine enemy types. Want people to explore? Hide unique things, weapons with unique qualities, upgrade materials, recipes or random quests outside of villages, so people look for them. Durability and weapon breaking, to the point some fights are a net loss of resources, is one of the worst ways to achieve those things.
@Vulcanfaux
3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was mostly fine in breath of the wild, kind of wish they had a little more durability. That fusing weapons thing you said would be a nice way to repair them. Either way for me as soon as I see the "yo weapon gon break soon" message I always just throw the weapon. It does a fair bit of damage that way and I still get one more great use out of it. A meter would also be nice, display it like the sharpness meter from monster hunter rise with maybe only 2 colors similar to the valstrax weapons. With the "red" not only showing its about to break, but also showing that if you throw it it will break from that durability.
@MerlinCross13
3 жыл бұрын
"But you won't be able to afford to repair all your weapons" KEK. That's a good one. Oh wait you're serious here. Outside of the Relic weapons in 3houses, I don't think I broke one weapon and I don't think I've seen anyone break a weapon short of mashing weapon arts. It's stupidly easy to upkeep your weapons in 3H to the point of why not just get rid of it?
@Everettalla
2 жыл бұрын
I actually played butt-wah without eating a single apple my first run because I thought you HAD to bake them. My cooked meal inventory is still full as hellll tho
@isidoreaerys8745
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I’ve literally used watering pails that were over 50 years old that were antiques. Those things don’t break.
@Rengor1997
3 жыл бұрын
About Three Houses, money and materials are so plentiful that even on Maddening, weapon durability becomes a complete non-factor, so it's literally just a matter of "Have X uses for a chapter then repair it afterwards". Even the relics are easy to repair with how common Umbral Steel is. The only more tricky thing to repair is Aymr but by contrast it's by far the best weapon in the game and if you know where to find the material (Monsters in the Desert aux battle or chapter 16), the game just cries in agony.
@charsunshermie9376
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you’re right about this for the most part, especially with how common umbral steel becomes in part two, but I know that I ran out of Wootz Steel at a few inconvenient moments, and especially mythril. Mythril seemed pretty hard to get, unless I was doing something wrong, so it definitely did limit my usage of weapons that were crafted with it.
@HeilRay
3 жыл бұрын
I loved breakable tools. Just gives meaning to gameplay and my resources.
@TarsonTalon
Жыл бұрын
Technically, Halo is a game with a 'weapon durability' system. You must constantly find ammo, or swap weapons. Because of this, the transition for me to BOTW was actually pretty smooth, as I was used to disposable ordinance. In fact, I was pretty happy to have a sword that wouldn't go poof after ten swings of it.
@galaxylad8152
3 жыл бұрын
I have seen a frisbee dog reference, my day has been made
@derbezacesanchez3779
2 жыл бұрын
I remember Dark Cloud games had breakable weapons, that could break while fighting in the dungeons.
@teslafistforge8716
6 ай бұрын
botw's durability system felt fine to me as well. FE:TH's durability system was tolerable but repairing weapons always feels like busy work in a game filled with busy work. is it balanced? mostly. is it fun? ehhhh.
@micahvisser3772
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, using amibos (Idk how to spell) as miniatures is big brain! How haven't I thought of it?
@deadwhitedragon9751
3 жыл бұрын
The two main issues I have with the durability system in botw is that 1) I eventually realised that spears are kinda useless because they break so fast compared to two-handed weapons, even though they're pretty good otherwise, and 2) it takes like 3-4 weapons to beat a single lynel despite being able to use one for a long time otherwise Apart from that, I like it a lot
@mateo._.854
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, lynels can be durability-consuming, and also sometimes not worth the reward. There are a few ways around this though: 1. Repeatedly headshot the lynel and mount him, you’ll get 5 free hits which don’t consume durability 2. Use yellow chuchu jelly or shock arrows to disarm enemies such as lizalfos, then you can take their weapon without defeating them. I once went into a lizalfos camp in Master Mode and used yellow chuchu jelly to disarm them, and in return I got three 50+ damage swords without using almost any durability. Also sneakstrikes do 8x damage
@deadwhitedragon9751
3 жыл бұрын
@@mateo._.854 Oh I didn't know that the mounted attacks don't use durability, that's good to know
@Palindome
3 жыл бұрын
Using amiibos as minis is the smartest thing ever, I’m gonna use that next time I play
@McGeeMcGeeMcGee-g7w
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! your new horizon outfits were excellent!
@devforfun5618
Жыл бұрын
the first time i added a durability system to a game i made it like this every time you use the there is a random chance to damage the item, when you use a damaged item there is a bigger chance the item will break, if you don't fix it, the idea was to add an adversity to the game, like getting a blunt sword in the middle of a fight forcing you to run away, also increasing your skill in a task would decrease the chance of damaging the tool, so eventually that would stop being a problem
@abigcupofwater
3 жыл бұрын
This game had the same problem Skyrim had for me: 50% of the game is menu
@RosariaBestGirl
3 жыл бұрын
The flaws in your argument. Having a blacksmith to fix your weapons doesn't affect the exploration if you still need materials to repair them... in fact it enhances it. You gloss over this at the end of your video because it is such a good argument and in fact we have seen it implemented in Zelda before where it also extended the upgrade system over to weapons... which is an amazing feature. In SS you only damaged your weapons if you were bad at combat or using them wrong. Trying to block a sledgehammer with your basic studded/steel shield? Get wreckt. Trying to block fire with a wooden shield? GET WRECKT! It encourages the player to explore and look for materials, while punishing them in a logical way. For playing terribly and not using their brain. BOTW on the other hand... does the exact oposite by not even giving players that option and making players use up resources no matter how "good" they get at weapons combat or how much they enjoy the fighting... THAT is tedious! Not giving the players more options on how they chose to play the game is the most pea-brain excuse I have heard for this durability system. Oh and even if SS didn't exsist the sheer volume of the overworld far outclasses the insignificantly small size of the weapon inventory system. Oh but that encourages exploration? How when you literally leave the reward in the chest because your inventory is already full and the ONLY SOLUTION IS TO THROW AWAY ALL YOUR OTHER PREVIOUS REWARDS FOR EXPLORING!!!!??????? MUCH BRAIN! OBJECTIVE GAME DESIGN! HUR DUR! And I am talking endgame max inventory here... even the pathetically small storage system is ass.
@pexe_lunar
3 жыл бұрын
A very nice weapon durability system is the old Monster Hunter's (all of them except MHW and MH Rise) sharpness and pickaxe/bug net system
@Jordan-subj
2 жыл бұрын
World and Rise both have sharpness maintenence. What are you talking about?
@pexe_lunar
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jordan-subj My point is about not being able to see your shapness exactly
@EndlessEvelyn
3 жыл бұрын
The only way (without changing the durability system entirely or removing it) to make the durability system better in BotW is to: double the durability of everything, but don’t change the master sword at all, the way the time limit and countdown to use it again works is great, other than making it stronger, shortening the time limit until you can use it again, or making the time that you CAN use it longer, any of those when wearing the fully upgraded version of the ‘I-finished-all-the-shrines’ gear. I have so much to say about armours, but this is my take on durability.
@hillhank3070
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like having an actual chest (and not just those shitty display racks) in the house you purchase where you can store a fair amount of weapons, bows, and shields would really improve the durability system. The game would still constantly give out the more generic weapons, so there wouldn't be a need to constantly go back to get more weapons, and it would encourage more people to use their rare weapons and not hoard them as if that weapon breaks, they can always return home and grab another one, or just leave it there and free up an inventory slot for a new rare weapon
@TMAziz
Жыл бұрын
I sort of have a system for this: I don't open chests in shrines unless I have a full inventory, so it shows me what's inside and then closes up again. If I don't want to drop something to pick it up, I mark my map next to the shrine with a stamp (or sometimes 2) to remind me what's inside. I can fast-travel back to pick it up later, and it might even have a modifier. I also mark good weapons that spawn in the overworld every blood moon, like the flame greatsword on the ancient tree stump. (And yes, I'm still playing BotW in 2023. I got this game late and I want some more time with it before I play TotK.)
@yalkn2073
3 жыл бұрын
Problem with botw's get weapon, kill monsters, get weapon loop is you lose more weapons then you get, especially in master mode. (Atleast good ones, bokoblin arm doesn't count)
@biropgrules
2 жыл бұрын
Man, imagine giving the player the option to only use one type of weaponry if that is what they wish/finds the most fun in a game thats supposed to be all about freedom to do anything, and go anywhere.
@ben_smothers
3 жыл бұрын
0:53 More proof Astro IS the biggest animal crossing fan
@ersia87
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what is said in this video, except that the food system is excused because it's something the player chooses to do. I think it's the same thing. Keeping alive is of course a much more important feature of the game than keeping weapons in one piece. But I think eating should be regulated as well. Maybe eating should take in-game time. Maybe choosing a meal could be made in the puse menu but the eating itself would have to take maybe just a single second or two, with solid ground (or at least no beating), to be done. That would probably erase much of the food buffing before fights against overly hard enemies. Or maybe there could be a limit of how much Link could eat. If the metre is full link has to either do other stuff for a while or sleep or wait for a few in game houres before eating again. Mayeb each food item could have a "size" wich fills up a food metre until link is full. On a side note, I think cooking is probably too easy to make overpowering. powerful recepies shouldn't probably be able to be made by just throwing many of the same powerful ingredient into the pot at the same time.
@henrymilne9461
3 жыл бұрын
"the whole point of the game is to get as jacked as possible for the final boss fight" yh, I walked into it with waaaaaay too many ancient arrows.... like, i just spammed them and it was over
@seroujghazarian6343
2 жыл бұрын
Funny you mention golden tools. In Minecraft their break things fast, but they also break the fastest
@Psycho0Noob
4 күн бұрын
fun fact: if you parry a lynel and hit him in the back after you ride him it consumes zero durability! So flurry rush against them is actually a waste if u think abt it
@_hexes_
2 жыл бұрын
12:47 that play is fucking genius lmaooo
@gabs-.-
Жыл бұрын
14:23 After seeing the new TotK powers: “hmmmmmm 🤔”
@DunjonMaster
Жыл бұрын
I think some weapons should act like the master sword or hylian shield. Difficult to break, or will have to be repaired. But only weapons that are one of a kind, or that you have to go through a quest to get.
@mihailcirlig8187
3 жыл бұрын
That's why I play on Cemu and use the unbreakable weapon mod, much much more enjoyable this way, for me
@shiroamakusa8075
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, why stop with weapons? Have all the armor pieces explode into powder too! Because then you'll be encouraged to switch up your duds more often instead of going for the highest protection! Hey, and maybe Link should start losing limbs and vital organs whenever he gets whacked by a ten foot centaur or zapped by an ancient war machine. Then you have to find new crutches for every few steps you take because those crutches explode after a while too! Man, that's such a winning formula! Hey, hey, I know, why not have your game disk self-destruct after playing for a few hours forcing you to buy a new one! That sounds great, doesn't it?
@absoul112
2 жыл бұрын
The grinding in Sacred Stone and Birthright is optional. Not in the technically optional but the game becomes a pain in the ass if you don't, but as in the games are easily doable without grinding a single time.
@Arya-db3yd
3 жыл бұрын
Ok I actually love the idea of amiibos as DND miniatures why didn't I think of that
@patrickrocheleau8185
Жыл бұрын
The champion weapons thing could work, instead of recharging over time, have it so when one champion weapon breaks, a random one is repaired, including the master sword in this list as you are the human (forgot how to spell hylian) champion, meaning you get a bow, spear, sword, hammer and whatever urbosa uses, ur only really missing a boomerang and wand, otherwise u would have all weapon types accounted for and by forcing u to use them you would have enough "variety"
@tylorian5168
3 жыл бұрын
I actually don’t mind the weapons breaking. In BOTW, I put my most significant, almost broken weapons on the displays in my house so that they’ll be memorialized and I don’t accidentally break them. It makes the weapons more personal, in a way.
@qwertygutierrez1293
3 жыл бұрын
i would just break everything cuz farming for op weapons was really easy
@Gabriel_Blair
3 жыл бұрын
kinda wish that there might be special unique weapons kind of like in FNV that are pretty much just the usual you find with higher damage and the ability to be repaired in some way but never in combat but never in one static place maybe with weapon shards like razbutin mentions so that you can have some sick sword like the windcleaver everywhere but forced to not be in constant use, and would still be out damaged by random pickups like the master sword is. edit in post: and you would only be allowed to carry one unique weapon
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