Hi Beukdeup, I've been facing a lot of cheaters at the start of the season. On my alternate account, my rank plummeted from just below 27,000 to 18,500. I admit I surrendered 2-3 games due to bad spawns, dice rolls, and card luck-it was just too much for one day. Your game looked suspicious too, and I would have reported the players as well. However, after watching and rewatching your video, it seems it could just be bad play from both sides rather than deliberate collusion. A few thoughts on the game: Situations like this do happen. Given your cap choice and the board's blizzards, it was foreseeable that Pink would become your enemy by turn 2 or 3. Pink’s strategy to play for West Africa and then target your cap was a rookie mistake. However, Pink needed either your or Yellow’s cap. Taking Spain on turn 1 was crucial, but unfortunately, you had bad dice. I'm unsure if the Romania cap would have been a better choice; I might have opted for the Lithuania cap to play the long game. We didn't get much insight into other caps-we only saw three. Purple might have placed their cap in the Alps or Sardinia, which could explain why Pink took a card in Germany from you, possibly due to Purple’s cap or a large Purple stack in the Alps, and maybe that's why Pink didn’t take France in turn 2 and didn’t eliminate Yellow there. At one point, Purple held three bonuses (Dinaric Alps, South Eastern Europe, and Southern Europe) with less than 12 territories. Red likely had the bonuses of Orient and North Africa and attacked Purple in Greece and the Dinaric Alps. Red overextended in the following turns, making enemies of Purple and Pink while Orange moved into Red's territory. At 24:10, Yellow had a chance to eliminate you while you were on 4 cards, but they didn't attempt it, and even Orange failed to notice the opportunity. At 28:10, Pink realized Red was almost out and took Red down for the 3 cards. It wasn’t suspicious, but Pink should have tried to eliminate you as well. Considering your starting position, finding the right play was tough. I think Andalusia wasn’t the best choice, given that Pink was likely to become an enemy and had a strong position. I wasn’t keen on the Ireland and Romania caps either. Perhaps opting for Lithuania and aiming for a longer game would have been smarter. However, if Yellow had capped in Prussia, that would have led to a tough battle as well. With your last trade, I would have just taken a card and passed. In my view, none of your opponents were particularly skilled. Yellow seemed to dislike you for taking the cap. Pink was more astute, recognizing the strategic benefit of a position in West Africa. Purple and Red were preoccupied with fighting each other, while Orange managed to expand slowly in the East and might have been more capable than Yellow, Purple, and Red. The combination of the blizzards and your starting position made the game particularly challenging for you.
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
I do think it is within the realm of possibility that they weren't cheating, but there is a lot of evidence to point towards them actually working together, especially one breaking me outside of the other's vision and then the other not breaking me.
@mohamedalhinai4176
Ай бұрын
I’m a grandmaster and there is no way anyone with a sound mind could argue that pink slamming that cap with 18 on 12 is reasonable 😂 or the pink breaking and the yellow not trying to break even tho he hates him.
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@mohamedalhinai4176 I agree. Thank you!
@Apophlegmatis
Ай бұрын
18 on 12 makes sense if pink knew about the steal on yellow, and cared about it. That or we have a totally inexperienced pink. That yellow not breaking though.... no way they can see on their own. Totally agree, can only be collab
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@Apophlegmatis Exactly!
@orionskye6044
Ай бұрын
yea yellow was very odd I could argue some things for pink.... but that was definitely suspiciously way to towards yellows benefit
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@orionskye6044 I agree. Wait til the next video.
@DonCarlos-xy9ed
Ай бұрын
-I think the Romania 🇷🇴 capital would be way better than Andalusia. -Taking the yellow cap is a blunder to me. It almost always goes down the same way. You end up with two weak capitals, no bonus and a guy who hates you. Everything that happened after you took it was a textbook example. - it is understandable you were frustrated, not sure though if it was necessary to give up after trading in @ 26:30. Maybe there is a small chance you can survive if you just take scandi and leave your 28 stack in Denmark 🇩🇰
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@DonCarlos-xy9ed I definitely get that yellow is going to hate me, but I don’t mind if one person who doesn’t have a capital hates me. I fully expected pink to clear him out of France, I keep Spain, and then regroup. I didn’t expect the capital slam by pink. But you may be right. - However, keep in mind I’m also playing to have fun, exciting games with big plays instead of longer stalemates with the optimal plays.
@aralornwolf3140
Ай бұрын
Since a 100% Blitz on a 4 cap is 12 troops... it was possible Beukdeup could have lost all of his troops... and gave an easy cap to Purple. I agree. Worse, he also knew Yellow had Scandinavia... so Yellow could have broken Spain easily... thus destroying his position. Pink running their newly gotten troops into his Spain capital just made it easier on them. This was a one bad blitz away from losing before turn 5.
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@aralornwolf3140 I agree with this in part. However, without watching the video again, I believe I captured a territory prior to attacking the capital just in case I got a bad role on the capital attack. I knew yellow was in Scandinavia, but without a capital he would have been toast. All I had to do was strengthen my capitals for a few turns, and then build my position from there. If I lose the capital roll, that’s fine, I just go back to the original position. I was fully expecting pink to clear yellow away from me, which under normal circumstances would have happened. However, with them colluding, pink drilled my main capital and gave it back to yellow. I know it’s a risky choice on my part, but it should have made for an exciting game, which is my main priority as someone trying to upload content.
@DonCarlos-xy9ed
Ай бұрын
@@Beukdeup-vs3jp I didn’t mean to be overly critical btw. It’s just that in my view it often doesn’t work out all that well to take an early second capital. I think there are a lot of factors to consider so it often is hard to assess in just a few seconds. Some that come to mind: - potential of your opponent to retaliate - strategic value of second capital - probability of someone else taking it from you - how much does it slow you down in you expansion - how good are you other options , for example taking another bonus instead
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@DonCarlos-xy9ed I didn’t take it as critical at all. I love feedback!
@MrsMittens269
Ай бұрын
I’ve reported about 5-10 people for the exact same stuff and no action taken so good luck with SMG. not sure what their procedures are for checking but I don’t think they’re fit for purpose
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@MrsMittens269 Yeah I’m not sure their method. I think they look to see if they play together often or not.
@dave306g4
Ай бұрын
standard play!
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@dave306g4 Ha!
@brianmason8287
Ай бұрын
Well what you did wrong is knowing pink was gonna cap noob corner and with the blizzards they only had to go into you really and you tried to ruin yellows game.
@JM-Au
Ай бұрын
Yellow made a bad move. This dude capped. Pink and Yellow knew things they shouldn't have known. Collusion for sure.
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@JM-Au That was what I saw as well. When pink broke me and yellow didn’t follow up breaking me, that was the nail in the coffin to tell me it was probably collusion. That cap slam on me by pink in Andalusia knowing they weren’t going to win was super fishy as well.
@teekoz1182
Ай бұрын
You are the one who are bad... pink in very good position and you start to be hostile with yellow.. pink after you have 2 cap have no choice than attacking you.. yes you are on 2 of the 3 way he can take
@Beukdeup-vs3jp
Ай бұрын
@@teekoz1182 I 100% disagree with the logic that we have no choice but to attack opponents with two capitals. And yes, I was hostile with yellow, but it was a four cap on turn two (if I remember the turns correctly). Regardless, it was a weak capital. Once again, if pink and yellow don’t coordinate together (somehow making moves they appear to know about with no vision), then I am able to stabilize. Also, a reminder, I’m trying to put together fun content, not make the perfect plays. Were you pink in this game?!?!?!?
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