this is an amazingly done video, very well thought out and tested. it was very insightful and I'm surprised this doesn't have hundreds of thousands of views
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Жыл бұрын
Cheers, I'm glad you liked it! Feel free to share. It was a lot of work but I'm glad I found some answers!
@lordgraga
Ай бұрын
Dude you're a legend. Some times you think of something, wonder if someone else has done it, and then see what's up. I can 100% say that you satisfied my needs for knowledge on this subject. Great job. EDIT: I also wanna add that this got me more interested in adding a ESP arming adjuster to my guitar, as it does the same thing to stability as adding heavier strings.
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Ай бұрын
Great! I wanted to know the answers so badly - I figured I wasn't the only one! I looked up the arming adjuster but can't quite get my head around what it does exactly? Watched a couple of videos but they didn't explain much. Seems to serve a similar purpose to the Tremel-No? Let me know how you get on with it!
@lordgraga
Ай бұрын
@@cliffsmithguitarlessons The ESP arming adjuster has an adjustable spring piston that pushes in the opposite direction of the other strings in the cavity. This means that your total force from the string direction grows higher. To counteract this, you need to add tension to the regular springs. The result is that there is more opposing force on the tremolo, which means that the entire system is stabilized. In short, it makes a floating trem more hard-tail like. I JUST installed it on an old PRS CE-22 that was having issues with muddiness in the low-end, and adding the arming adjuster gave it a bit more definition and changed the voice of the guitar a little bit. Conversely, any bending and whammy action is also now harder, but I don't use the whammy so this is OK. One downside is that the spring piston from the adjuster doesn't follow the trem block entirely when you push down the pitch with the whammy. There is a subtle "click" when the spring block touches the adjuster. Doesn't matter to me. Does that make sense?
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Ай бұрын
@@lordgraga I kind of get it. How is this different than just adding more springs? Does it have the same effect, just with more adjustment? Or does the fact that it's a solid bolt of metal rather than thin spring wires give you that tone improvement in addition to the stiffer trem action?
@lordgraga
Ай бұрын
@@cliffsmithguitarlessons It feels like it can make a drastically bigger difference for stiffness than a single spring can. So you can get a tighter trem. I think most tonal change simply comes from the fact that the bridge is more rigid. There may also be some change from having a new semi-rigid resting point for the trem.
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Ай бұрын
@@lordgraga Thanks, I'll have to try one one day!
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Жыл бұрын
I hope you liked the video! What is your spring/string gauge set up, and which tuning are you in?
@bluebird6829
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, absolutley great
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was worried I'd gone too deep and people would find it boring! I'm sure some will 😁
@admiralrng6506
Жыл бұрын
oh man that Koa LTD is pretty
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Жыл бұрын
Cheers it is an amazing guitar for the price - I was blown away by the quality when I first played it - and I still love it years later.
@BonJovi1987Fan
8 ай бұрын
I have the spring claw angled for a smooth flowing motion of tremolo
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
8 ай бұрын
Do you mean the bridge plate is angled up (i.e. not level with the body), or you angle the springs? I have been wondering about what difference angling the springs actually makes, but I haven’t tested it myself.
@mattwright466
11 күн бұрын
AMAZING work!!! 👏
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
11 күн бұрын
Cheers Matt!
@rodolfoamaralguitar
10 ай бұрын
That is a great idea! Exactly what i was looking for!
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
10 ай бұрын
Thanks Rodolfo, I hope you get the whammy bar tension you are looking for!
@bigquen1
16 күн бұрын
What about 10-52 strings?
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
16 күн бұрын
In a 10-52 set, the EAD strings are from a set of 12s and the GBE strings from a set of 10s. I'd set it up for a set of 12s, then you can experiment with adjusting the spring tension screws. You could also try mixing spring tensions, i..e have a lighter spring on the high E string side. But I haven't tested it so that's just my best guess. I do have a Strat with 10-52 strings on it, but I keep the bridge flush to the body with 5x heavy springs. That's just the way I like it on that guitar - I can hit chords really hard, do unison/harmony bends, drop D etc, and it stays in tune well. You just have to experiment and set it up the way you like it. Be prepared to get it wrong and change the screw settings/spring configuration multiple times until you're happy with the result. Let me know how you get on!
@Logan-zo3lj
16 күн бұрын
I could use some advice. I'm a new player and my first guitar is an FR. My main gripe is that the whammy moves gets the initial movement too easily. I try hold the whammy while playing and the tone changes, meanwhile my brother has the exact same guitar model but with a Wilkinson 50IIK and it's very easy to hold the whammy while playing and it doesn't just change the tone so easily. Is there something I can do about it or pretty much all FR are built like this?
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
15 күн бұрын
A FR equipped guitar would be the last thing I'd recommend for a beginner - it's too complicated in my opinion. Most beginners would be better off with a hardtail. You don't need to hold the whammy while playing all the time, just grab it when you need it. Do you mean that there is play in the bar (i.e. it moves a bit without changing the sound) or it changes the sound as soon as you touch it? If it's the former, that is a problem on many FR guitars (mine included) - you have to keep tightening the thread by hand. Some people put plumbers tape or something in the thread to make it lock better. I did this and it worked well for a while but has worn off now. You can also look at a replacement arm which requires an allen key or spanner to attach - they are more hassle to put on and off but more secure. Installing the new arm will require removing all the strings and bridge (if you can even find an arm that is compatible). If it's the latter (the pitch changes as soon as you grab the bar) then that is user error - you need to be more careful. If you make the bar stiffer this would be less of a problem as more force would be required to change pitch with the bar. Follow my recommendations in the video to make the bar stiffer. Also are you resting your picking hand on the bridge? If so you may be resting too hard and moving the bridge which will affect the pitch. I hope this helps!
@sqlb3rn
9 ай бұрын
Imagine my bar force with 7 strings, 4 stock springs, and 10s. I need to lighten it up. I will also try 9s and 3 purples
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
9 ай бұрын
Standard tuning with low B? Let me know what happens!
@sqlb3rn
9 ай бұрын
@@cliffsmithguitarlessons drop A 26.5" scale, and another 26.5" guitar in drop G with 11s, but in my case I think it is the heavy gauge AEA strings under too much tension to allow my Floyd Rose to flutter.
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
9 ай бұрын
There are a lot of variables there, I’d set up the guitar so it plays how you want it then experiment with the springs. You may find you need an extra spring on the bass side (or one fewer on the treble side) if there is a lot more tension on one side than the other. I don’t have a 7 string so I’m just guessing!
@CucemberJones
9 ай бұрын
This is fantastic
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@larsheuker
Жыл бұрын
Its all in the springs, sometimes i go for 4 springs on a floyd to make bends feel a little bit more like a fixed bridge
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Vorstreus. What is the difference in the string bend feel when you change the number of springs? I can't quite get my head around it. I would think that adding more springs makes the string feel a bit harder to bend, as the springs are trying to counteract the increased tension created by the string bend. Or do I have that wrong?
@keithclark486
Жыл бұрын
@@cliffsmithguitarlessons Different springs vs tension and claw adjustment and strings. Physics.
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
Жыл бұрын
@@keithclark486 thanks for your comment, but I’m not sure what you are trying to say?
@nordineamara4887
3 ай бұрын
Thx a lot for those test 🙏 in scientist way Long time I was wondering why my shaller floyd was so hard to move , impproved it by using 2x springs , and still wondering the effect of differents springs tension . ( hi from Paris 🫡 )
@cliffsmithguitarlessons
3 ай бұрын
I'm glad you found it useful - I just had to know the answer after years of guessing!
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