This modification really works. I played around with different thickness spacers from 3mm to 15mm. I think the 10mm is the sweet spot. It has better clarity and dynamic.
@johnnystar007
4 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar, I’m so glad I did the bass mod, for a different reason. When I went to unscrew the bolts at the bottom, I found they were all loose. Now I understand why the midrange sounded so dirty, especially at higher volumes. I guess it’s because the board at the bottom was loose and rattling, creating its own sound. Since I’ve tightened the bolts, it’s so much cleaner sounding.
@MelanicWarrior
3 жыл бұрын
I just bought some Wharfedale Diamond 11.2's a couple of weeks ago, and after watching this video I tried modification using some Scotch-pad furniture sliders. There are about the same diameter and a little less than the width of the speaker's spacers. I drilled holes through them and added them to the spacers. I really do like the sound improvement this experiment made and I thank you for this video.
@SuperSeltzer
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these speakers. These matched with proper external DAC and amplifier are way better than active speakers many times the price.
@aoelounge6446
3 жыл бұрын
This mod adds clarity throughout the frequency range. It changes the sound character slightly, but I love what I am getting in return. Anybody who is curious should give it a try.
@aoelounge6446
3 жыл бұрын
Before the mod these speakers had strong but slightly muddy bass before. After the mod, the bass become strong but clean.
@Tharbamar
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, enjoy!
@mediascribble
4 ай бұрын
A lot of folks mod these speakers (225/220). There's nothing wrong with changing the jumper although it's very subtle how it would change the sound. The jumper you get with the speakers is gold plated tin probably. Copper is better, but surface area covered by the supplied jumpers kind of negates any benefit you'd get using copper/silver, etc. It's real dicey changing the distance of the plinth from the bottom of the speaker. They've been tested to give the best balance the way they are, but if you only change it very little it may suit your tastes better, or worse, and it really depends on taste and environment you play the speakers in, and whether you use a sub, or even the music you play mostly. If you make the gap a millimeter greater, or up to 5 I'd say, the bass actually drops a little with a change in the speaker's timbre/resonance. It does seem to increase resolution a bit. The change won't suit everyone. I have the 220's, and I raised them a little less than 2mm. I'm not even sure if the tuning isn't corrupted, but I listened to one speaker done, and the other not. The modded speaker seemed clearer, and the resonance was still mostly intact. It's been that way a couple weeks doing both, and I may revert. Room sound mods and the equipment/music you use is way more important. (Remember that the speakers as they come use the plinth (bottom screwed in plate) as an extension of the port. If you really want to change the gap you should be changing the port length and/or the hole diameter as well to get the proper tuning. That would take some experimentation or calculations to get right).
@R-Byte-3D
4 жыл бұрын
Dezember last year I was looking for new speakers and listened to every Speaker sample of your videos. without recognizing your review stars i choosed them. after that i read all the comments and your raiting. i bougth them 6 times in white for surround and I'm very happy with the sound and quality. thanks for your comparsion videos!
@johnd7268
3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I just purchased these speakers for $229. As far as the spacers, I remembered that I kept the strip of spacers that come with TV wall mounts. I actually had 8 of the exact size you used but they are a shiny black, which will work well with the black piano finish!
@CinemaDemocratica
3 ай бұрын
Let us know how you get on. I'm thinking about these as the speakers for a jazz-piano-trio-only rig in a smallish room, with an SMSL AO300 all-in-one. Would welcome any reactions.
@johnd7268
2 ай бұрын
@@CinemaDemocratica I was actually really impressed with the more spatial effect it had on the overall sound. The instrument separation is much more apparent! I can hear very subtle details in the music that were not noticeable before. Vocals and drums are way more impactful! Personally, I didn’t notice a huge difference when switching out the spacers, but I may try to test that a different way in the future. Now, I am running these on a Music Hall a15.3 integrated amplifier with CESS-106-6f Bi-Wire speaker cable, analog connected sources using Preffair pure copper RCA cables: Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Evo turntable and streamed music through an SMSL DO 200 MKii. The previous setup was Q Acoustic Concept 20’s connected to an SMSL AO 200 hooked up to the SMSL DO 200 mkii through balanced cables. I am running a 10” Jamo sub with both setups, which is turned down a lot so that it is just noticeable.
@tophorable
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. These are MONITOR speakers. They are supposed to sound neutral. You have changed the characteristics and made them play louder by strengthening the bass. But they are not neutral now - my impression this improvement was done at the cost of clarity and separation of the instruments on the soundstage, so it could be either improvement or worsening, depending on the music you listen to. But this is a cheap modification and you can always return to the original state, so it's worth trying.
@aoelounge6446
3 жыл бұрын
I feel I had a different experience from yours. Mine became more neutral, and the clarity and soundstage significantly improved. Bass is not louder, but just cleaner.
@hwccheng
2 жыл бұрын
I just made the same modification with an 1 inch spacer between the base board and the speaker itself. The base is more clear and less muddy. The change also bring out the mid more. The high is about the same, easy on the top for the ear. Sound stage also opens up more. So it’s well worth the modification… over all, it can match the towers I have, Pioneers SP-FS52. Not as airy as the Heresy but then we are talking a magnitude of differences in terms of price and performance. note: The spacer I used is 1” high. You will have to replace the stock screw if you use anything longer. Very satisfied with the price and performance ratio on this purchase and modification
@CrueLoaf
5 ай бұрын
Have added the spacers and wow! It does make a difference. The bass has way more punch!
@CrueLoaf
Күн бұрын
@@stevecruz465 I got mine off eBay. “Screw Size: M8, Length: 10mm”.
@Plastpackad
3 жыл бұрын
Another tip on D 225: I have been testning some gears back and fourth. Mostly using bare wire for the speakers. Tightening the bindning posts hard every time as one should. One day I actually turned one bindning post when tightening the nob. Opened the bindning post and checked the nuts on the inside. Not tight at all (any more). Most nuts could be turned several revulotions! Used a 8 mm long socket. Now they are back to former glory. Time to buy bananplugs.
@mcaddc
4 жыл бұрын
At first I was sceptical about the sound improvement with the spacers. Then I realized there was that large port on the bottom. I'm surprised that the wharfdale engineers didn't consider the height of the gap!
@richardp4606
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tip! I've bought 8 nuts of 10mm high from the local hardware store for my Diamond 220's. Since I could not find any plastic rings. The results: in my view the bass is deeper and louder. And it seems that there is a better and wider spread in the high, mid and low frequencies.
@vincentponzi3524
Жыл бұрын
I did replace the spacers ,got them at Lowes. They only had white so I took a black marker and colored them. They did make a big difference. Thank you!
@luckystars1817
4 күн бұрын
Did the exact same thing. Went to Lowes today and painted them with a black magic marker. Still riding the fence on if I like the new sound?
@josephreardon5821
3 жыл бұрын
I installed half inch (12.4 mm) spacers for $3 which produced significantly more bass and a bigger soundstage! I used Copland's Fanfare for the Common Man on a Telarc cd for a test cd and I was blown away by the improvement! Very gratifying. Thanks for your ingenuity!
@stevenvitale2683
3 жыл бұрын
Where did you locate / purchase the spacers?
@igorrybas1217
4 жыл бұрын
in my opinion these speakers sound VERY good as stock ones, but thanks for showing your creative side, and keep doing the good work man! love your channel!
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@trolkink
4 жыл бұрын
I did the spacers today. Tried with one speaker first and the improvement was so evident to my ear! A lot more open sound and Fuller. Really really good!
@mrmike18
4 жыл бұрын
I did this modification to the spacers, and the difference to me was obvious. I think it cleaned up some muddiness / sloppiness in the lower end. I also replaced the bridge plates, and my speaker wire (which was Amazon Basics, copper coated aluminum wire; 16ga) with Monoprice pure copper; 14ga. Between the new spacers, and the bridge plate / wire upgrade, I got a nice overall improvement to the sound for a handful of dollars. Thank you, Tharbamar! P.S. I found the spacers on eBay, they seem to be a common bicycle part, and not hard to get.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you for sharing.
@reznikdable
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kensboro, Can you please share the name/link of a bicycle part on eBay?
@reptilia7170
Жыл бұрын
I can confirm this mod works with 220 as well At first i was enthusiastic, the base gets a bit more kick and depth. This is good for the speakers on their own and would keep it this way if i only had the 2 speakers. But i use the speakers with a subwoofer. It is too much for this combination. So i reverted back. The woofer fills in the lack of bass !
@MrWARRIORMONKS
7 ай бұрын
thanks mate. I might try it with my 220s
@robertdonald7190
4 жыл бұрын
Thatnks for this info. I did this mod to my 220's and although the bass port in the base of the speaker is smaller than the 225's and doesn't even have a proper port (it's just a hole in the wood!) it definately made a worthwhile improvement. I'm going to add a proper plastic port as well.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, enjoy!
@aleksandartosic2663
4 жыл бұрын
I listened to diamond 225 combined with denon pma520ae, pma720ae, marantz pm6004 and harman kardon hk980. And the sound is good. Two days ago I bought a yamaha as 701 and got even better sound.
@slaving300
4 жыл бұрын
I have them with a Adcom GFA-535(first version) and they sound really good, very amazing and high end.
@andreassouth1523
4 жыл бұрын
I also bought 2 years ago wf 225s with yamaha a-s701.Perfect combination with very very deep lows, crystal highs and sweet mids!
@alext2933
4 жыл бұрын
What an excellent, inexpensive mod for the masses. Great content.
@mykeldg
4 жыл бұрын
These are my 1st real speakers because of your channel. After parting with them 2 speaker upgrades ago, I still think they are the best in that price point. Build quality was better than my kef q350 which are at a higher price point and almost the same as my new dali speakers which are almost 3x the cost.
@sudd3660
4 жыл бұрын
i got these 225s and nice to see them get some love and diy to improve them. i liked them so much i was inspired to get into more expensive hifi :) i also was aware of the bass issue so i have sealed box speakers now. you could possible get better results with the wharfedale if you remove the bottom plate and use hollow or open stands, like my isoacoustic stands.
@neonspecter2730
4 жыл бұрын
I have just done this little mod and there is a noticeably 'cleaner' low end. I chose to use chunky 29mm wide spacers however, as when raised up like this I found that the 16mm ones looked a little puny. Purely an aesthetic choice, but I think they look much better than the skinny ones.
@AH-du8ck
4 жыл бұрын
Just tried this on my 220,s and noticable difference straight away, more tighter extended bass, with more attack. Brilliant Thanks
@realdiecast
4 жыл бұрын
i have wharfedale diamond 220, its so great bookshelf, rich sound quality, detail on high. but in my opinion there's only one minus: "a little bit to warm characteristic". if you play some of jazz or classic music, its so nice to hear. but if you play like pop or rock, the sound is a little bit strange, it like the singer got flu/ cold sound.
@chrisselner5005
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a slightly boxy, nasal sound (220). I've always wanted to hear the 225s.
@cmkilcullen8176
4 жыл бұрын
yes ! I agree re rock music
@mediascribble
4 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. The speaker does well with modern, refined music. Put old rock on, and it sounds "off". It may be the stiffness of the woofer, but even a sub only helps a little.
@civilcitizen3586
7 ай бұрын
*WATCHING A lot of your vids* thanks for the tip.. The 225's look much better also.
@kajamijo
4 жыл бұрын
I re-watched the video again using my headphone to hear the difference , after the modification the bass became deeper and more refined I have the same issue with my WD225 and was thinking to do the same modification , your video make me sure that this is the best modification . By the way I bought recently and old WD 9.2 speakers , their sound signature is very close to 225 except "in my opinion" the high frequency response is better than 225 , if you have the chance to test them ... don't hesitate :)
@beserklee290
4 жыл бұрын
I have WD9.2 also it's sound better than 225.Yeah I really hope that he has opportunity listens and review 9.2
@lbanias
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I put some 20 mm plastic washers (leftovers from a TV wall hanger) and the bass is now better, while the mids and highs are the same. Sometime there is still something strange like an "ummmm" that is not really low subbass, but I can live with that. Maybe I should play with speaker room positioning. The beauty is that tracks (pop '80, '90) that do not have bass are are not presenting added bass.
@sachininspright
2 жыл бұрын
In my experience a speaker’s sound never improves by any peripheral mods. The sound either muddles up, or worse, loses some part of the music (which can give a false sense of clarity).
@justanotheryoutubeuser5029
4 жыл бұрын
Never tried to replace the spacers, worth a shot. In the sound demo, the “boomyness” seemed to lower. Not a bad idea for a small cost.
@mikw1809
4 жыл бұрын
The position (height) of the loudspeaker has also changed , this can affect the lower frequency response due to the room. By adjusting the speaker position, the distance from the floor, walls and ceiling will alter the room modes ( those frequencies that are re-enforced by reflections that are in phase with the original frequency ).
@OhFishyFish
4 жыл бұрын
Few centimeters makes zero difference here.
@altabriziyehya4735
3 жыл бұрын
@@OhFishyFish I know!!! I was like 🤦🏻♂️
@AudioElectronicsChicago
4 жыл бұрын
😍Wharfedale😍
@petersmith4202
3 жыл бұрын
Just doing mine now bit early in uk to play them yet can't wait to hear them my spacers are a bit bigger than the ones you used
@EJ-lh5su
2 жыл бұрын
tried this hack and switched it back right away, lost punchiness of bass and sounded muddy. well to each his own
@Deke1
2 жыл бұрын
And there lies the problem, what sounds good to one person, may not sound good to others....
@borreltjuh83
2 жыл бұрын
its just good the way it is, i dont understand this modding stuff at all. Buy other speakers
@darpanbhuyan1909
2 жыл бұрын
This reviewer isn't sure about what is it that he's hearing. Everything is a "very musical" sound that "you can enjoy".
@alberttan9667
2 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the latest wharfedale diamond 12.2 compare to 225 because I can't make any decisions which one buy? Pls advise. Thanks.
@mhnoni
2 жыл бұрын
looking for the same answer.
@ramondelgado6778
Жыл бұрын
Both are awesome, but sound signature is totally different, to my ears. The older 225 is warmer, darker, more mellow/smooth sounding, with a full bottom end and the top end is very rolled off. The 12.2 is more dynamic sounding with a brighter top end, faster bass and the vocals are a bit more recessed. So if you like a more analytical, detailed sound, go for the 12.2. However, if you prefer a more laid back, mellow, warmer, non-fatiguing speaker, go for the 225.
@الخطواتالاثنىعشر
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the original designers at Wharfedale didn’t do it this way , but it might be the look of the speakers would be a lil Awkward and would affect people from buying it as the average buyers care about looks. But still they could’ve included these solutions in the package as an option for the buyer to change it later if it really does affect the sound as claimed here in this video. Just wondering.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
It’s just their house sound when they design it, sometimes it is done for purpose because they don’t want the sound quality of lower end models closer to upper end lineup.
@mediascribble
4 ай бұрын
They want the speaker to sound good. There's not a conspiracy to make it sound bad compared to others in their line. They've been at this a while, and tuned the speaker to give the sound they thinks represents their brand. You can't increase the gap without it changing the intended tuning. The plinth is that distance in relation to at least a half dozen other parameters like port diameter, length, box volume, speaker size etc. Can you change it a little, and not entirely throw the speaker out of tune? Sure. Will it sound better over the long haul after you settle in with it? Probably not. It's cheap to do so why not try it. If you want to change the gap, maybe use a different port insert or change the diameter of the port itself. Trial and error might get you somewhere no matter what you try.
@Bowtie12oclock
4 жыл бұрын
Nice job! I need to clean the base plate on mine as well so I might as well tweak the sound.
@carterleynes6380
3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't real engineers with university degrees, who designed this thing , think about this extra space before putting it on the market? They should have taken some careful measurements or something. You should be designing speakers on top of just reviewing them.
@stephen579
Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the spacers from?
@ryanford495
4 жыл бұрын
Can I please ask your opinion between Diamond 225 vs Diamond 11.2
@kirilkirilov7236
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you , I baed week ago one pair of warfedale diamond 14.4 .!
@rodplanet5901
4 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Great modification job 👍
@Deke1
2 жыл бұрын
Have to admit, the pre-modded speakers sound better to me
@enchantress7940
4 жыл бұрын
Could only find M8 15 or 20 mm. Is 20mm going to be too much
@woowoo3381
2 жыл бұрын
Dynamic , details and spaces (Before) is better
@AmbientWanderer
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I'm sure Wharfedale would have tried different distances between the spacer when they were designing the speaker.
@MrWARRIORMONKS
7 ай бұрын
Tempted to do it on my 220s... but I would need to see some objective measurements that show it improves the frequency response first. Anyone done any testing? It also would mean removing all the rubber feet to get to the screw holes, which is a pain.
@CrueLoaf
5 ай бұрын
I took the sticky rubber feet off. Easy enough. It actually sounds better without the feet. The mod took me 15 mins and certainly made a difference with more bass punch. I even had to turn the bass dial down a little on the amp!
@pengasus
3 жыл бұрын
Or if your budget allows, you can get 11.2s. They have insane bass. I don't know if it makes sense but the bass sounds full bodied and deep
@Tharbamar
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not my main speaker, thanks
@jankowalski593
4 жыл бұрын
@Tharbamar In stock there is too much bass to me - it is a bit slow and overwhelming. Will this mod (taller spacers) reduce bass and make it more responsive, or should I try something else? Please advice.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it will help, also you might want to try with adjusting the placement, thanks
@garywong1178
3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Do you think it's a good idea to raise a pair of 220's with washers taller than 10mm, say 12mm or 14mm. Thanks in advance for your input.
@CibyDevasy
4 жыл бұрын
@Tharmabar Which software or app are you using for wave comparison
@Anthony-cc8bx
Жыл бұрын
I think the Mogami links is the big factor. Clearer sound.
@PrinceFluffy
4 жыл бұрын
I avoid using jumpers, I just trim a bit of the speaker cable off in the middle of the cable wrap it around bottom post then trim the end and wrap around top post, then tighten on the knobs, so just the two posts connected to my speaker cable and no jumpers required...
@nicksummers2252
3 жыл бұрын
Can I do both mods on the Diamond 220s? And do you have any mods you can recommend for Denton 80th to increase soundstage? Never modded a speaker before. This is my first time. Always a pleasure to watch your videos.
@taeheeyoon6020
4 жыл бұрын
Of course wharfedale designers had a reason to do it that way but I think you did that modification great. In an audiophile way..
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
It’s just their house sound when they design it, sometimes it is done for purpose because they don’t want the sound quality of lower end models closer to upper end lineup.
@taeheeyoon6020
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, I don't think so.. Wharfedale did the same way to upper priced Reva and Evo range.. But the modi results in better sound to you, then it's good for you!
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s why I said house sound, I did review Reva 2 a few years back and I preferred 225.
@taeheeyoon6020
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, 225s are great speakers! Anyway I would like you to review the new EVO 4.2 bookshelf speakers. They are 3-way speakers with AMT tweeter and dome midrange.. So tempting!
@kajamijo
4 жыл бұрын
great review, I was thinking to do the same to my WD225 to improve their bass
@wymotome
4 жыл бұрын
So instead of just "guessing" at spacer height, why not just remove the bottom plate and do some experimenting/listening/frequency graphs as to how the sound changes when the height is raised? Or has that been done already and this is the best result?
@joeygonzo
3 жыл бұрын
playing by ear works best
@cestquoica
3 жыл бұрын
I tried that. removed the bottom plate and placed the speakers on stands with some space between them. they sound quiet hollow and week(relatively). I don’t really believe I have sensitive ears and the difference was quite obvious.
@stefanomimmi4351
4 жыл бұрын
It seems slightly better to me too, I found on ebay some 'Aluminum Spacer Bushing 3/4" OD x 5/16" ID' and 3/8 length, 10 pcs. I could not find any black spacers and aluminum looks good, also it is a little wider.
@Panslapper
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Can you tell me what AWG that copper wire is? It looks pretty thick...maybe an 8 awg?
@Tharbamar
2 жыл бұрын
Yes it should 8 wag if I remember it right, thanks
@angelmelo350
4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Is there much difference in sound in Diamond 220 and 225? Both models have lower price right now, thanks!
@mykeldg
4 жыл бұрын
just the bass
@zulumax1
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you lost the attack and dynamics on the drums as a trade off of better airflow to the port. I am borrowing my son's 225's and the biggest difference in sound I have found is the grille for the tweeter changes the sound. Danny Richie of GR Research did a frequency graph of these and found with measurements the grille changes the measured response. Personally I prefer the sound with the tweeter grilles on, with them off they sounded too sibilant and horn like. The grilles seemed to make the sound more natural to my ears.
@Plastpackad
4 жыл бұрын
Works great. Any hard plastic will work as spacers. No need to buy originals.
@petersmith4202
3 жыл бұрын
Just heard them it is well worth doing they sound better good idea
@adryanf_03
3 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend to do this with the bigger 230's?
@Cmytker
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if I can safetly put in foam bunges in the bassport, even if its down firing? Slightly too much bass, due to bad position. Thanks in advance!
@Tharbamar
2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can even at the slot will help.
@Cmytker
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thanks alot for your response! What do you exactly mean with even at the slot?
@Tharbamar
2 жыл бұрын
Slot is the opening gap at the bottom. Thanks
@Cmytker
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Do you mean that I take off the four black spacers and put the bottom part against the speaker bottom with no space inbetween?
@freespeechoneeach
4 жыл бұрын
i did the jumpers a while ago instant improvement. i try the spacers soon. dont use banana plugs neither , the less contacts you have in your circuit the better
@trolkink
4 жыл бұрын
Ignorant question: the jumper also improves single wiring??
@AbsoluteFidelity
3 жыл бұрын
If you dont use banana plugs that just means your speaker wires will be sharing the same hole as the jumpers? What difference did you notice after the jumper mod?
@user-gz5fw3yn9f
4 жыл бұрын
Hey. Thank you for the video. Which budget amplifier is better to take to Wharfedale Diamond 225? I choose between Yamaha A-S201 and Denon 520AE. Thank you
@aleksandartosic2663
4 жыл бұрын
My vote goes for 520ae. I had this amplifier. I used with 225 and 720ae and marantz pm6004. I am currently listening to them with hk980.
@user-gz5fw3yn9f
4 жыл бұрын
@@aleksandartosic2663 Thanks for the answer. And if you choose between Denon 520AE and S.M.S.L AD18, which one is better?
@aleksandartosic2663
4 жыл бұрын
Buy denon pma520ae or pma720ae.A later get dac.
@classicrock7890
4 жыл бұрын
You need to try the Evo models, especially 4.4. Surprising sound at this price.
@Gabriel-of-YouTube
4 жыл бұрын
What if you would have gone higher and add some soundproofing self adhesive foam? I think it would further reduce some unwanted resonance.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Yes I tried to go higher but bass response was reduced and less depth than I would like.
@palapalamala
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Tharbamar! is this upgrade good for the 220's? Thank you. I think I'm gonna buy some Diamonds!
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
It will work great on all Diamond 200 series.
@leo11877
Жыл бұрын
How much of a difference do the jumper plate vs wire make?
@weaselpopper
Жыл бұрын
Jumper plates are junk (many test have been done) just use a good thick quality OFC wire and get rid of them they look nice and that`s where it ends.
@Kayvoyager
10 ай бұрын
O suppose no difference.
@kirkcunningham6146
4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know about the Diamond 3's of the mid 80's?? They were the best satellites of the day...had a pair.
@casterngonsalves5641
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tharbarmer! If I do this mod for my 225, do I also need to do the same to my 220c centre channel speaker which is a part of my home theatre system? If so, do I have to do it in the same way? Will the centre channel sound better?
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Yes you will get same benefits as the 225, thanks
@casterngonsalves5641
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@TheAtomsman
2 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy the spacers online ?
@1moderntalking1
4 ай бұрын
Is this a three-way speaker like the Elac ubrv The driver on the top looks like a coaxial…
@Norman-bone13
2 ай бұрын
No, it’s not. You may have learned that already. I own these, and they are great little speakers. Consider their larger brother, the Diamond 225. Similar tonal sound, but with a 6-1/2” Mid/Bass driver instead of the 5” in 220. It improves the low end. I got the 225’s after having the 220’s for six months. I am now running the 225’s in my main rig. No regrets without any mods. It’s worth the extra $50 for the 225’s. Good luck. Music Direct- $299. 👍🏼😎🎶
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Tharbamar, which speakers do you recommend Wharfedale Diamond 220 vs JBL Stage a120? I see you love your 225, but also said only good things about the JBL. Thanks
@Tharbamar
3 жыл бұрын
Sound is subjective but D220 have better build quality than A120, those JBL sound great but I can’t listen them for too long due to some brightness in upper frequencies.
3 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar thanks
@Cherrytea558
3 жыл бұрын
Better still get the JBL Stage A 170s. I have them and they are amazing.
@jd5787
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Cool video. Looking at buying a pair of wharfedale. Either 10.1 or 225. Quick question: what's the foam on the wall used for exactly please? Why a piece at the center also? Thank you
@Tharbamar
Жыл бұрын
It was in old house.
@jd5787
Жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar hi. Sure. But why use them and why behind the speakers and 1 piece at the center/between the speakers please? I am wondering if I would benefit from doing the same. Thanks!
@jazzeppelin
3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried with 15 mm nylon spacers? I ordered both 10 and 15 mm
@Chris-sj5fh
2 жыл бұрын
Have owned and enjoyed 225s for 6 mos but wonder if I can improve on sound I'm getting. Can anyone give suggestions on ideal placement, angling, distance from wall and such? Also I'm powering these with a fairly basic AVR the Denon AVR-S750H, would they benefit greatly from better amp? Thanks
@ramondelgado6778
Жыл бұрын
They will DEFINITELY sound better with an upgraded amplifier. MUCH better!!!
@dougneumann7517
4 жыл бұрын
If i am using an SVS sub with the 225s, would adding the larger spacers still result in any improvements?
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
It will improved in clarity of overall sound.
@victordeanda1517
Жыл бұрын
HI, I just bought these for $250, I like how they sound, but I would like your opinion on how they compare to the Kef Q150? They are $300. I am replacing the Klipsch rp600m they are fatiguing and too directional.
@nc3419
Жыл бұрын
So, have you heard the KQ150 to compare? How does the 225 do with movie soundtracks?
@Engleaf
4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Nice mod gonna do this for my 225's. My 220c had the reflex pipe plugged with foam from factory so i removed it and im gonna try this mod for it also. Have you tried the 225's biamped? ive had them biamped from new with my Pioneer vsx-933, so not sure if theres a diffrence.
@user-el2zj3pw5r
3 жыл бұрын
11.3 tomorrow coming my way 🥳
@soulgalacticlover7281
4 жыл бұрын
With the modifications, how would you compare it to the PSB Alpha P5?
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
They’re both great and smooth sounding speakers but I like D225 a bit more for deeper bass and richer sound, thanks
@achn2b
4 жыл бұрын
I've got a pair of 220's on the way, do you figure that this small mod would work just as well for them?
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think it can benefit from this mode.
@cardamoncommon
Жыл бұрын
Great, simple project. What stands are those? Thanks.
@danbalkey2580
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have the 11.2 wharfedale speaker has any test this speaker for this spacer or is it just for 220 . It look to me that the space is larger ?????
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, I’ve not tried 11.2 yet, thanks
@jvaerewyck
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, I own the 11.2 speakers and they have already the larger spacers if I compare with the spacers I saw in this movie.
@danbalkey2580
4 жыл бұрын
Jos Vaerewyck yea I think your correct .how do you like them you think they need broken in ???
@jvaerewyck
4 жыл бұрын
@@danbalkey2580 I love the Diamonds 11.2, They are the update of the 225.
@danbalkey2580
4 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar looks like they. Made that change on the newer models. thanks to you.
@ionutplesea5693
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Tharbamar have you listened to these WD 225 biwired or only single wired? Thanks.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Ionut Plesea Yes I have but I’m not a fan because it loses the depth and stereo image I like the most, thanks
@ionutplesea5693
4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Thank you. Where did you get the spacers, sleeves from? I couldn't find them on internet ebay or amazon. I'll guess I have to go to a hardware store and see..
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Ionut Plesea Yes hardware store and you can also look for them in standard sizes, if you’re in the U.S.
@ionutplesea5693
4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar I'm in Europe in Romania so I suppose the 8.5x17x10 is the standard european size in mm that I should look for? Thanks.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Ionut Plesea Yes, exactly.
@bigjay1970
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure changing out the jumper cables couldn't hurt. The first modification not sure why company didn't use that spacer? very hard to tell the difference at least hearing through KZitem! But definitely not saying that it didn't help but very strange a manufacturer for a couple of pennies wouldn't have figured this out themselves?🤔🤔😎 especially the jumper cable swap considering most moderately priced speakers have the same kind of jumpers not at all but a lot!🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🤓🤓
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
It’s just their house sound when they design it, sometimes it is done for purpose because they don’t want the sound quality of lower end models closer to upper end lineup.
@b.g.1844
4 жыл бұрын
Would you still recommend psb alpha p5 over these? I’m trying to decide between p5, 225, q150 and Denton 80. What do you recommend?
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Ben Garbi At the current price Diamond 225 is better buy in my opinion, thanks
@b.g.1844
4 жыл бұрын
Tharbamar thanks for your opinion
@PraveenMV
4 жыл бұрын
If you add a sub, 220 is my suggestion. Less pricey.
@XaviLaw
4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar If we disregard the price would the PSB Alphas beat the 225´s? Thanks in advance!
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
Xavier Martins I liked P5 for overall balanced sound but if I have to choose one for my music listening 225 is my choice because I love the midrange on these speakers, thanks
@saurabhkaushik7414
3 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy thanks for this video, which av re river. And music amplifier do you use with these??? Sound is simply awesome
@marcelanddog3171
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, anyone has some thoughts on the Wharfedale D320? Are they supposed to be cheaper than these here?
@benlee421
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan and I bought a pair of Diamond 225 after I watched your review. I also followed exactly how you changed higher washers. The difference is amazing. They were good before but they sound great now! All highs, mid and bass are better with more details. Ever the sound stage is wider. I guess is because more air is coming out at the bottom. How did you figure this out while even the manufacturer didn't know? Anyway great job and please keep going.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
It was just a little experiment, it does take this speaker to whole new level. Thanks
@benlee421
4 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar I just changed to pure copper jumpers and the 225 gets even better. The sound stage is deeper and wider. More details too! Thanks a lot for the advice!
@StudioChimps
15 сағат бұрын
Kick drum slightly improved. Fingered bass much more defined.
@grzegorzemanowicz5122
2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Can you do the same to the Wharfedale 4.4? They have similiar design, would you do it to your 4.3?
@Tharbamar
2 жыл бұрын
Yes you could but I no longer use Wharfedale speakers. Thanks
@grzegorzemanowicz5122
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tharbamar Yes yes i know you exchanged them for the Quads. I've checked under the Wharfedale 4.4 and it seems there is no nylon spacers there to be replaced, but the base cover is mounted directly to the speaker frame. Maybe still worth a shot to try adding the spacer.
@nicksonsandot1024
Жыл бұрын
How about the bass response
@carlosperez-cr7vp
4 жыл бұрын
ME ENCANTA COMO SUENAN.....DINAMISMO Y REALISMO.....
@michaelfischer6522
3 жыл бұрын
Best speakers for compressed or Spotify, even 80s Vinyl Sounds more fun then with my other higher prived speakers. Do you have a Link for the spacers??
@spinachlips14
3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised about the spacers.. is this because of placement compensation? It seem that wharfedale wouldn’t have missed using a 1/4 inch of spacing difference.. it seems unlikely they decided this as that was not a cost cut.. so my guess is this mod is a personal ear thing called improvement.
@sparayurji
4 жыл бұрын
not the same speaker, but with the same 'mechanism'. i'm experimenting with the 11.3, that i find lacking punch in the middle-low by default, and i found that removing the plate and putting the spikes in its place (they fit in the same holes) gives back the punch in the lows. basically all it matters is the distance of the mouth of the reflex port from the floor. in your case you increased it, in mine i decreased it, with opposite results
@weaselpopper
4 жыл бұрын
This is correct I found the taller the spacing the less punch and tightness but with more spread sounding low end extension.I went just a bit over stock by 1/16" to keep the punch and add just a little.
@45billyva
4 жыл бұрын
hopefully you can get your hands on the new EVO large bookshelf with the AMT tweeter.. those look interesting and affordable.
@Tharbamar
4 жыл бұрын
May be I will request one for review, thanks
@45billyva
4 жыл бұрын
Seems they are at a reasonable asking prices . I think What Hi-fi gave one of their new floor standers a positive review.. Wharfedale must have new leadership ?. Their direction has been very positive in resurrecting their name.
@timstipdonk8451
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for the spacers? I would love to try this on my diamond 220's!
@1Poe
4 жыл бұрын
probably you can also buy a car fuel hose and cut it. it is solid 8 mm rubber tube that should fit on the screws aswell
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