Thanks for this Nemo. I always get something useful out of your bookshelf speaker reviews. I think it's because you go for the essential rather than trying to be the perfect reviewer who would leave no stone unturned. Keep the bookies reviews coming!
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Thank’s CC. I have the luxury of not being financially tied to YT, this is all for fun so I just keep it real :)
@alangeorgebarstow
3 жыл бұрын
I've had my Evo 4·2s for nine months now and I love them more each day. When I play my eclectic music collection on my Audiolab 6000CDW via my 6000A, I am enchanted.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
They certainly can be enchanting! In fact that's a great way to describe them when setup well :)
@henson2k
Жыл бұрын
Do you still love them?
@alangeorgebarstow
Жыл бұрын
@@henson2k Indeed I do, they remain a delight. They are among the best audio purchases I have made in the past 47 years.
@nothingleft777
Жыл бұрын
Do they „need“ a subwoofer?
@alangeorgebarstow
Жыл бұрын
@@nothingleft777 That depends on your listening preferences. I neither have nor need one; the bass response is (for me) clear, deep and omnipresent.
@HamiltonAdolphus
2 ай бұрын
I bought these a year ago and paired them with a Marantz 7000n and a rebuilt vintage trio turntable with an Ortofon red 2m cartridge. It took 2months for the speakers to break in. The amp took a bit longer. After the did I moved the Evos around constantly to find the best position. I found the sweet spot then added some room treatment to reduce an echo and reverberation I had. Now after a year, I will casually throw on a record and get sucked into the chair. I just added a sub and got it dialed in. With a full range of sound my soundstage is wide, tall, and on certain recordings, steps out from the speakers creating a fully immersive experience. When I get these things turned up and close my eyes, I am placed on a cloud of coalescing waves while suspended in a warm gooey soundscape dream. Do you ever get goosebumps because the music is so good. So surreal. So visceral. If you haven’t, keep the dream alive.
@heriacosta5452
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Nemo, I don't want a temperamental speaker, I am looking for a set and forget speaker. You were clear and honest about that point, one must work to get it to sound good. Botom line: No thank you.
@freakin13guy
3 жыл бұрын
Totally nailed this review! Especially in regards to the impact placement has with these! On a side note, I think it’s funny how Wharfedale plays these off as having 6.5” drivers. In reality they’re 5.25”. Not a deal breaker for some but let’s call what it is Wharfedale. :)
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Dude that’s what I thought!!! They looked small to me but I didn’t measure them.
@AbsoluteFidelity
3 жыл бұрын
6.5 inches from the edges of the basket, not from the center of the surround rubber to the other. Wharfedale, and like many others, measure it this way. I felt cheated when I first recieved my Diamond 12.2... lol!
@freakin13guy
3 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteFidelity Lol.. Correct.. Being that I currently own speakers with true 6.5” woofers, I just remember that bugging me when I was auditioning the Evo 4.2 as I new my eyes were not deceiving me.
@buffal0bilious
2 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought. They say the dome midrange is 2". If that dome is 2", there's no way that woofer is 6.5". Not a chance. If the dome is indeed 2", then the cone of the woofer looks to maybe even be as small as 4.5". That said, I've heard the 4.4's, and they sound (and look) splendid, and that's what matters most.
@knifeswitch5973
2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it. Perfect triangle. I almost sent these back. It’s been about 6 months now and the king’s chair is almost perfect considering my room kind of sucks. A lot of fiddling about but man once you’re in, YOU’RE IN. I supplemented with a couple 80 watt front firing 8” subs but if I could give these speakers some more real estate, I wouldn’t need them. If I want general room sound, I fire up the vintage.
@mmdusa
3 жыл бұрын
Nemo, keeping it real for us. I'm glad you got them dialed in. They are pretty. Unfortunately, I have no space for any more speakers. Else I'd give them a shot.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
They’re good but what you already have is probably great too :)
@luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have the EVO 4.4 and I agree with your appreciation of the narrow sweet spot, to find it is: equilateral triangle, stand inside calibrating with pink noise ... and enjoy because you won't be able to get anything better at this price!
@larrys1911
2 жыл бұрын
My son has the Evo 4.4's and runs it with a Cary Integrated SI-300.2d. He just bought a Chord Qutest DAC and the sweet spot became wider. The DAC has huge soundstage once broken in. Great speakers that sound better with the grill off.
@luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
2 жыл бұрын
@@larrys1911 wow, thanks, thanks I was looking for a DAC change and just one of my presets was CORD QUTEST, because I wanted to increase the sound space. How is QUTEST for Soundstage doing in depth?
@larrys1911
2 жыл бұрын
@@luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 HI Luis, the Chord Qutest does have a wide, tall and deep sound stage. It is punchy with good dynamics, a rich toned midrange and a smooth top end. It needs 75 hours of break in otherwise the center sound stage sounds narrow and the midrange is peaky. Also it is sensitive to usb cable changes. My Luxman DAC is the same. USB cables that sounded good with the Cary's internal DAC did not sound so good with the Chord and visa versa. We also used a Linear Power Supply and that improved the sound of both the Regen and DAC. Othe dacs to consider are the PS Audio direct Stream DSD used, just a fabulous wide sound stage and detail. Also the Yggdrasil. It is a great sounding DAC. Larry
@luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
2 жыл бұрын
@@larrys1911 Thanks for your good advice and good options, the only thing that does not motivate me is that Qutest is not balanced and my whole system is, so one from PSAudio or Pontus from Denfrips seems a better option. Greetings!
@austinharkey5131
3 жыл бұрын
Love Wharfedale. These things are like mini towers. Don't love them for home theater but I don't think that is what they were made for. Had them in a music setup and it was incredible.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the top is too rolled off for theater IMO.
@sporty22011
3 жыл бұрын
Great review man- I really appreciate how you have the integrity/humility to tell us to watch the Zero Fidelity review for the technical details and you just do your own style. You’re genuine-That’s specifically why I watch your videos. I’m trying to find the gear that’s the best fit for me and that’s not necessarily the highest tech, fanciest gear out there. I thought these speakers looked interesting but I’m not very patient, I often move around and dance when I’m listening to music and I usually have several other people sitting in different spots in my living room so even though these might be great speakers they aren’t great for me! 10:17 seconds well spent! Thank you!
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sporty, thank you!! I have the new buchardt s400 mk2 arriving soon, I have not heard them yet but the original S400 is one of my favorite speakers that doesn't require you to sit absolutely still :) If that's too pricey though the Focal Chora 806 are also one of my favorites when used with the matching stands.
@sporty22011
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I’ve heard good things about the buchardt S400’s but I think I’ll wait to see what you have to say about them vs the new mk2’s before I pull the trigger. Thanks man!
@dicmccoy
3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of industry standards, let's tell the subwoofer manufacturers that variable phase control should be an industry standard for subwoofers. Great review Nemo. Keep up the great work. 🤘
@felixxia3604
3 жыл бұрын
It is not industry standard??? I didnt know that. Doesnt make sense.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d love to see some kind of auto phase.
@dicmccoy
3 жыл бұрын
@@felixxia3604 No it's not industry standard unfortunately. Majority of companies only put on a 0-180° "phase switch", which is only switching the polarity and not changing the phase. Some companies that do have variable phase control do 0-180° and others do 0-280° and will have a 0-180° polarity switch.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Richard, 180 is the same as 0 with negative polarity right? I hate phase honestly, it takes up so much time!!
@dicmccoy
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Yes, 0 & 180 is just a polarity switch, it does nothing with phase. Phase is really easy if you have the tools. I made a video on it and how to get your sub level matched at your crossover frequency of choice. The video may make you motion sick because I was holding my phone. I show how to dial in 1 sub and then 2 subs and show how to check for phase cancellation in the listening position. A Umik-1 and the SPL meter in REW will be required. But do it that way, and your subs will be dialed in perfectly each time.
@eltonc1505
2 жыл бұрын
An eye opener wrt room sensitivity ! Great video as always... Short n sweet !
@mattolsziewski7164
3 жыл бұрын
Another great review. Would really love to one day hear some input about the Elysian line as well. It’s cool that this line has a full range of speakers (center, tower, I believe two different bookshelf). For some reason just from looking at them they appear as though they could have gone the Elysian stereo only route with these guys as well.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Thomas & Stereo reviewed the Elysian, i don’t think I’d review those myself. Too big, too heavy 😅
@johnfredmurray
2 жыл бұрын
I have these set up in my basement with a vintage Sansui. Thought they'd play second fiddle to the Linton Heritage I have in my living room. These actually sound more exciting than the Lintons IMO
@juanmillaruelo7647
3 жыл бұрын
"Fussy", guys, "fussy", not "fuzzy". As in "very" particular about placement and "nagging you" into "sitting properly" like an English Victorian nanny. The EMT are very beamy, almost laser like. Doesn't sound good? You are not "sitting right". "Sit up! Look forward!" It looks good, it keeps up appearances. Also very Victorian. But it's damn strict in its social demands Wharfedale should offer a good 'non emt' tweeter to ensure FR consistency across a broader listening window. The EMT should be an option, or be left to desktop monitors (Evo 4.1) or "special use" with a single optimal listening position.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite comments this year. I read that (i think) the way you wrote it, like a strict school teacher BACK STRAIGHT!
@cremersalex
3 жыл бұрын
'Fuzzy' is the theme of this video, and it's funny, because I bought the Wharfedale Lintons and it's the exact same story. If you place your coffee cup an inch to the left, or to the right, the sound will change!
@roccobruno8027
3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see a 3-way design in this price category. Also real wood veneer ... woot! How good is the cabinet at avoiding resonances?
@ngoweyseong3738
Жыл бұрын
Maybe you should ask the designer to get the correct answer,haha😃 good day.
@yeahright3733
3 жыл бұрын
I like your parody impression of yourself. You dont sound like that but you sound hilarious when you do that with your voice. You should try and do some comedy bits to make us laugh.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Ahahaha thank’s man!
@mattkalis1567
3 жыл бұрын
Good review. These are speakers that I love on paper but will not but because I need to move around
@CaptainLouis
2 жыл бұрын
Very, very humble review. Loved it. We need more of that type of content. Subscribed.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
Aye! Thanks Captain I appreciate that.
@tg6373
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on observations -- I owned these but returned as soon as I heard the Dynaudio Evoke 10s.
@Psyphonyx_Life
3 жыл бұрын
I came over to your channel taking a look for the Bowers / Wilkins 600 anniversary. I have listened to a lot of other people give their subjectivity.. and I trust that you'll provide some brutally honest feedback versus other products you have heard. I don't see them ?.. Thanks for presenting your vibe on audio products. The Community benefits from people like you speaking candidly and passionately about your perspective. Thank you!
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kanga, thank you. It means a lot to me that you want my opinion on that specific speaker. I like B&W a lot but I don't think they like me lol, I have emailed them a few times for review samples in the past but never get any reply. And since I know that speaker is not an ideal pair for my amps I don't want to buy them with my own money just for the review. I think BW is usually best with warmer sounding gear which I do not have.
@Psyphonyx_Life
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda .. Understood. Marketing methods for some brands just isn't the same across the board. Gotta go with the flow. Thanks for the input and feedback.
@danielhenderson8316
2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda - If bright highs are not your thing, you probably won’t like B&W without a lot of EQing. I’m probably taking my 705 s2 back to Best Buy because it makes my ears ring after a couple of hours. That aluminum tube on the top is very vivid and detailed, but it’s always dialed up past 11 and it doesn’t relax.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielhenderson8316 yeah i agree, I like BW but only connected to really expensive gear like Mcintosh.
@thedumbstuff4170
9 ай бұрын
They're currently on sale in Denmark for what equates to 513 USD. Seems like a pretty good deal then.
@redrock425
Жыл бұрын
These speakers really appreciate a good amplifier. Using my Denon AVR they sound pretty good, with my friends ICEpower amp they sound fantastic. I need a good stereo amp now...
@robertlogue3794
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I didn't know they were so fussy. They're off my list now.
@kenhiett5266
2 жыл бұрын
Super fussy is all I needed to know, thank you.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
like an ex wife :)
@JustDataReviews
Жыл бұрын
I’m currently trialing these with the evo 4.c for home theater… I thought that the 4.c being a 3 way design would make for a good experience. So far my inclination is to go ahead and send them back.
@NemoPropaganda
Жыл бұрын
make sure to experiment alot with placement, if you can get it right they really are amazing but if you can't theres no point keep them, they're just too fussy for most rooms.
@xtctaz
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review!! These are some beefy big boys! What speaker stands are you using?
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
I have a few but the ones shown here are the Revel Concerta2 specific stands.
@myhomeaudio8751
3 жыл бұрын
Great talk as always bro
@chrisselner5005
3 жыл бұрын
It seems like they cannibalized the jade series design and technology wise. I had a cheapie pair of the 220s and for the price the design and build was nice. I'd like to hear these speakers, I'm curious about their finikyness. I probably spelled that wrong.
@glennelliott4989
3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that the tech was handed down from the Elysian series
@GodfreyMann
3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you explained the subwoofer pairing. Is the Rel T7i more SQ or halfway? What amps do you think will pair well with he EVO’s or which ones to avoid?
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Anthony, all current model REL subs are SQ subwoofers :).
@MrEvhel83
2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda i would go so far as to say REL is the ONLY subs for music/hifi if you want the best music performance.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrEvhel83 and Rythmik :). Also surprisingly wildcard is an SB-3000 in a big room, that sub sounds totally different in a big room when it has to play near full tilt vs in a small room where it's barely moving, and I mean big like 20x25ft.
@hclandscapes
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently the new versions of these come with a fake plastic fase plug on the bass drivers, the earlier models had metal plugs that were attached to the back of the driver, i wonder if that would affect the sound?
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Thats annoying, i hate when companies due silly changes like that. It makes it so complicated for buyers.
@hclandscapes
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda i guess it was to save money as like you say your already getting quite a lot for your money and possibly it wasn't cost affective for them?
@DomRivers67
3 жыл бұрын
Mine have a metal cone that moves with the driver, some have a metal cone that seems fixed...not sure what, if any difference that might make
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
@@DomRivers67 the ones I have here seem to have more of a pronounced metal-looking dust cap that is fixed to the cone.
@madcrabber1113
3 жыл бұрын
Great channel 👏
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Thank’s Mike!
@mtjm
3 жыл бұрын
I dunno if its a glitch or some kind of shadowban, but this vid is not showing in my subscription feed 🤔
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Oh no 🙈 maybe i said the f word too much in the comments lol.
@slecht
2 жыл бұрын
Good review. Got them on my way, only €420 for 2. They where returned so I got a good deal, for that money I couldn't resist. Gonna use a smsl da9 for it, I heard it's great for these speakers (&also very cheap (€200).
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
woo that's a killer deal!!
@ferdi9554
3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff as usual. What were your impressions compared to the Focal Chora 806?
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Chora is brighter & more detailed. Evo has a huge sense of space and stronger bass and overall much warmer presentation. I prefer Chora as the Evo is just way too rolled off for me even though i usually don’t mind that. Evo is just too hard to get “right” for my taste.
@ferdi9554
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks a lot! I was debating on buying the Chora 806 or the EVO 4.2. I had the chance to test the Chora and I had goosebumps, the sound was detailed. Unfortunately I couldn't find a retailer to test the Evo. So I checked some reviews on KZitem, and your speach was very convincing, especially for low volume. Looking forward to get the Chora 806 with stands. hopefully those will pair beautifully with my Cambridge AXR 100.
@Audioloon
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Nice job on the review. Agreed, if I had to work that hard to get the speaker dialed in then concern myself with proper sitting posture and breathing and restrict body movement then I would not be able to "relax and enjoy" the music so it's an easy pass for me. I currently own a pair of WD D320's and in the past owned Diamond 9.1's.....both of them lots of ROI and fun without the fuss.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
@@ferdi9554 I have not heard the AXR but Chora seems to pair well with most amps, maybe stay away from cheap class D though, it would make it too dry or analytical.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
@@Audioloon The ROI is there as long as you don't move an inch :D
@seoulrydr
3 жыл бұрын
Whoa. For a split (micro) second, I thought you were gonna tuck tail and run - like a soul sucking panty thief fleeing the local nursing home! But you pulled it out and off and came through with a valid (and reasonable) review. Kudos for giving Sean props! Great review!
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, whats wrong with being a panty thief?
@seoulrydr
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda If they're not being thrown at you - you're doing it wrong. Just sayin. Using one's teeth (WITH PERMISSION) is also acceptable.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
I will not confirm nor deny the allegations.
@seoulrydr
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Good call. Neither will I! Besides, these are not allegations - they're hypotheticals! Tasty hypotheticals, but hypotheticals nonetheless!
@hclandscapes
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda 🤣
@robk5745
2 жыл бұрын
Somehow I missed this one, I have new wharfedales and the build, driver quality and sound for the money is actually top tier. Whoever is running the company these days knows what they are doing! Great review as always brother
@Trollberg
2 жыл бұрын
I really like these as they sound perfect for my listing taste which is mostly black metal and techno. What do you suggest in the 500 dollar range. My budget choice was KEF 350.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ragi, I would try to find a second hand pair of $650-$800 speakers. For example the dynaudio emit 10 I just reviewed is $800 but if someone wanted to buy them from me I would sell them for $500 (i'm not trying to pitch you here, just an example). Reason I suggest this is because there are not many speakers priced at $500 msrp, most are $600-$800 or $200-$350 so getting those more expensive ones on sale or lightly used would be best. Elac DBR62 second hand is usually around $450 which is great too. I have not heard the Q350, only the Q150. If they sound the same then I think the Q350 will be great for black metal and EDM.
@StrangeBrewReviews
2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever run them in a stack? You have 4 of them there, I've thought about doing this. Give more vertical sound stage which seems the only downside of this speaker
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
Huh? I only have 2 :$
@StrangeBrewReviews
2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda must be a cut in the photo looks like 4, but do they stack one on top the other nice and squarely? how do you think a stack would sound? increase the vertical sound stage?
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
@@StrangeBrewReviews that's a TV behind me displaying an image of the speaker. I don't know how a stack would sound, I've never tried it. I would instead use the money to just buy more expensive speakers.
@kunzroo
3 жыл бұрын
Writing in from India. Love your work. Hey...quick question.... what do you think of the denon pma 600ne paired with the monitor audio bronze 100... contemplating buying...your opinion matters so do give🙏...thanks...
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
I like the MA Bronze 6G around $400-$450, more than that and I don't like it as much. Regarding the PMA600NE, I personally don't like that amp at all. It is very lacking in dynamics. The lack of dynamics paired with a slightly rolled off top end make for a presentation that I don't like very much. Some people like that though, it's just not for me. The two components might work together well but I wouldn't do it.
@kunzroo
3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@berndwolfram451
2 жыл бұрын
I have fishhead audio bs 1.6 ...the same specs but a little bit more beauty ...great sound from germany
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice, those are very good looking :)
@jonsays3762
3 жыл бұрын
The 4.3 is great for music. I replaced it with a FAR cheaper 6” infinity tower for theater.
@veertjee
2 жыл бұрын
Hi all, Nice evaluation of the speaker. I have now 1 week after seeing some reviews here. I think for the money a no-brainer. I paid €500 New sealed box. I have hooked them up to an Pioneer SC LX 58. I do not experience the fuzzieness, althoug sweetspot is not very wide. I did not put them on stands, but just on my tv cabinet. They sound great and even at higher listening volumes. They are not forgiving, cause if the recording quality is bad you will hear this. Anyway i like them a lot. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Regards Erwin
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Eriwn, glad they're working well for you, I'm sure they look beautiful in the room :)
@veertjee
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nemo, Thanks and yes the look very nice. I have indeed as you said in your review paired them with a SVS SB2000PRO 😉. Very good combo. I am also considering to get the Evo center (Evo 4c is very big and i hope the Evo4cs is good enough) and Evo4.1 as surround speakers.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
@@veertjee as long as you have the space it should be awesome :). The Evo line is like a wild stallion, if you can tame the horse she will be loyal and treat you well, but if you can't it's not good lol.
@willisbush956
2 жыл бұрын
You can more safely place a beer on top of a speaker wrapped in vinyl.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
nah, the vinyl will bubble from the moisture lol
@willisbush956
2 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda You're quite right NP. My vinyl covered outdoor furniture bubbled up and was ruined after the first rain!
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
@@willisbush956 oh man that's a bummer, I learned that from leaving drinks on my office desk, have a nice bubble now :(.
@wim1983
3 жыл бұрын
It's a great budget speaker, though in terms of sound I would say Denton 80 is greater in sound tonal balance and classic craftmanship.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Denton looks cool too, my home just doesn't look right with vintage stuff though :(
@wim1983
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda aha I see, one tip is just to put them near "wood" haha
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
@@wim1983 hahaha, indeed, I would if I had any :) My entire house looks like Andrew Robinsons living room, it's like Pintrest modern if that makes sense. I know some people like the contrast look of vintage & modern but I don't like it personally.
@wim1983
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Really? I remember from Andrew's channel there are videos that show a tv cabinet with a grill same as my Denton 80 haha. Actually I think wood can blend in well into anything, it's amazing element to complement both audio and visual.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
@@wim1983 yeah he mixes modern & antique looks, I just don't, full modern all the way, that's one reason I love the Buchardt S400 so much.
@reserva120
2 жыл бұрын
does the sound change if your having Tea??? , thanks for not doing a review where you~ as a grown man had to take a stand, you shown the lack of will an non compiled back bone of Mellinenals in fine form..
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
Allan I'm guessing you're 55+ so I will give you the respect your age deserves but I must say I'm shocked that at your age you're so entitled and have such an odd interpretation of manhood. I think a big part of being a man is knowing when someone has done something so much better than you it's best to step aside and let the light shine on them for the hard work they've done. As far as backbone, let's just say you'd have a different opinion on mine had you said this to me in a real world environment. This youtube channel is for fun, audio is a hobby, don't make the mistake of assuming I owe you a damn thing, most real men know they're owed nothing. Now go sit in the corner and think about why you still have such a chip on your shoulder.
@bobb.9917
3 жыл бұрын
Nemo? …Did you flash us irreverent Cat A§§? 😂😂😂
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
I would never do such a thing...
@marks7646
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why in our country this only sell for $670 a pair.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know but that's a great price, that's cheaper than used prices here.
@Roof_Pizza
3 жыл бұрын
Cool. Are those the 'proper' height stands?
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
The stands are for the video, i have many stands here to choose from and experiment with :).
@Roof_Pizza
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda I've found that I prefer higher tweeter positioning rather than lower but they are different L/C/R's than these.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
As long as you find what works for you in your room that’s all that matters 🥳 you are winning! I don’t mind a bit too high but too low sounds odd to me.
@krishmandal9769
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You just talked me out of this speaker. That's something no other reviewer has done for me. I say that with all love. How many times have we said, "Maybe it'll work, if ..." When you said that you need to get them dialed in and then NEVER MOVE THEM. That did it for me. Not the speakers for me. I need to have something that I can pull away, or tuck away, because I don't have much space.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Krish, no problem my man. I am happy to help in either direction. Sometimes knowing what you don't want can be very helpful!! If you like speakers that are easy to place in a room try and demo the Focal Chora 806.
@KaranKalwani1
9 ай бұрын
Hello sir, I'm looking to setup a 2 channel system for my PC. I'm an audiophile and want something that will be a worthy upgrade from my current setup (out of box Edifer 5.1 HT). I would like to pair speakers with a Rel Sub. These speakers/sub combo would be for my desktop (near field listening). What speakers would you recommend Kef LS or R3 Meta, B&W S3, Wharfedale 4.2? Your feedback would be much appreciated!
@NemoPropaganda
9 ай бұрын
Hi, unfortunately I do not have any experience with desktop audio.
@RockCity1111
3 жыл бұрын
I almost bought these but bought the Polk Reserve R 200s!!
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
Nice! happy with your choice?
@RockCity1111
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda definitely. The bass is so smooth.
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
@@RockCity1111 Nice dude, I really want to check those out!
@RockCity1111
3 жыл бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Polk canceled my original order for the r 200s for possible fraud because of a shipping address being different than my mailing address. So I was surprised they knocked 20% off which made the 200s cheaper than the r 100s. Lol.
@henson2k
Жыл бұрын
How it compares with EVO 4.3 in terms of sound ?
@NemoPropaganda
Жыл бұрын
I don't know.
@TheRoyrules88
Жыл бұрын
Wharfedale Evo 4.2 or Emotiva t2+ ???Nemo's pick?
@NemoPropaganda
Жыл бұрын
I have not heard those emotivas but I would not pick the 4.2 because its too fussy.
@TheRoyrules88
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AromaFrank
2 жыл бұрын
Will you pls review the Evo 4.1 ?
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, possibly :)
@Valisk
2 жыл бұрын
I have the 4.1 - be prepared to go through the same level of tweaking as the 4.2. I could hear the potential and played around almost daily. I was getting close to the return date and suddenly hit a sweet spot, so decided to keep them. Seriously, a few degrees of toe-in, or a centimeter of separation can make a noticable difference. I've never been a cable freak either, but I borrowed some to try out - I've never heard a speaker so sensitive to that particular variable. I'll probably never stop tweaking these throughout my ownership period, but I do enjoy the process! :) I'm eventually going to move these to a slightly bigger room, so I'll have to do it all again!
@AromaFrank
2 жыл бұрын
@@Valisk Thanks for sharing. So how did it end up serving you it’s best? Any tips? And what cable did you find makes a difference?
@Valisk
2 жыл бұрын
@@AromaFrank Any time :) I moved the speakers apart until the centre of the soundstage started to lose cohesion, then slowly brought them closer together until it started to tighten up. This distance was quite a bit further apart than my old speakers. They're toed in to fire just outside of my shoulders. Then I started fine tuning the position from there. I just watched the Zero Fidelity review as recommended by Nemo and I'd say that his setup tips hold true for the 4.1. I remember when I first set them up, I just put them in the same place as my old speakers and was disappointed. My amp is a Cyrus 7 with PSX-R, which is a little lean sounding but has plenty of power and control. The 4.1s added a bit of warmth to the sound that I really like. I'm going to audition an Audiolab 6000A and a Cyrus One soon - really looking forward to that. My old speaker cable was some Gale XM315 bought back in 1994. A friend lent me some cables to try - Two types of QED (can't remember which types unfortunately) and some Tellurium Blue II. I picked up some Blue II second hand off ebay. I'm struggling to describe how the sound changed, maybe I'll say there was a bit 'more' of everything. I was pretty surprised, I always thought cables were a bit of a myth - my old Missions & KEFs didn't really care what I hooked up with. Well, maybe a little, but not to the level that would make me want to change.
@AromaFrank
2 жыл бұрын
@@Valisk Wow thanks so much. I have them connected to my Audiolab 6000a. It matches and brings out of Evo’s more than what I had from the Rotel Tribute. I have the speakers placed inside a bookshelf, my room is very small 8x8, I have no place to move them out. I’m wondering ur experience when placed close to wall. Btw previously I had the Kef 150 and Elac UB52, both of them got fatiguing, so in this perspective I’m very pleased with the 4.1 but I still feel it’s not the best, so I will try to depart them even more like u mentioned.. maybe by the corners. Thanks again!
@44029340
2 жыл бұрын
Think I’ll get the Elysians and be done with it.
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
Love the cabinet!
@OneyPlaysClips
Жыл бұрын
probably a good pair of monitors
@JSVKK
Жыл бұрын
How good is this against KLH Model 3 ?
@NemoPropaganda
Жыл бұрын
I don't know, I have not heard that one.
@andreperron8466
2 жыл бұрын
Do you think that those speaker will fit good whit my Rotel 11 tribute?
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
yes
@johnwhite2576
3 жыл бұрын
Sound like your head is in a vise with these-useless for movies of course, but there are competitive speakers that arent this finicky. Its one thing to “dial in” the apeaker ie pl;a cement, but to never move yourself ? If you are ok with that , buy some quad ESLs. Heaven in a straight jacket…
@NemoPropaganda
3 жыл бұрын
no resonance at all :)
@ChrisDFranco
3 жыл бұрын
I’m not bad But $20 is $20
@divendranath1023
2 жыл бұрын
These speakers are nightmare in 6mths time don't buy.No parts available after 7mths.
@mohabandijany9579
2 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to the kef ls50 meta ? Thank you for your effort !
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
The Evo have a lot more bass and a much larger sense of scale overall so will sound better in larger rooms. I can see many users maybe not needing a subwoofer. The LS50 meta has a better presentation, is easier to setup, and has more consistent off axis performance but will not perform as well in larger rooms. Both speakers have outstanding build quality and very good sound when setup properly.
@justingriffin2546
2 жыл бұрын
its not wood veneer....i own them...its very good but it aint wood
@NemoPropaganda
2 жыл бұрын
pretty sure it's wood bro, it's listed as real wood vaneer in most of the literature I've seen. What makes you think it's not wood?
@rickgarcia8481
Жыл бұрын
No way I would buy a pair of speakers that are that focused where you can't move without the sound degrading. Terrible
@NemoPropaganda
Жыл бұрын
it certainly is a tough sell.
@rickgarcia8481
Жыл бұрын
@NemoPropaganda great review btw. Very, very informative for the average guy. Thanks
@holdencaulfied7492
6 ай бұрын
WTF is SPL?
@NemoPropaganda
6 ай бұрын
Depends how its being used, which sentence are you referring to?
@holdencaulfied7492
6 ай бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Around 4:10 you say it won't be too much on the SPL side, not too much on the SQ side. What does that mean?
@NemoPropaganda
6 ай бұрын
@@holdencaulfied7492 ah, so technically SPL stands for sound pressure level but the way I used it in that particular phrase was to describe a style of bass. SPL bass is heavier handed and draws some of your attention while SQ bas is more resolving and more integrated overall as a natural experience. Hope that helps.
@holdencaulfied7492
6 ай бұрын
@@NemoPropaganda Thanks, very informative. These are probably just what I'm looking for. I need some speakers that won't be boomy; my neighbor is complaining. I currently have a set with 10" woofers and are rear ported against the wall, reverberating the shared wall. Do you think these will be less boomy considering where the port is located?
@NemoPropaganda
6 ай бұрын
@@holdencaulfied7492 i used to live an apartment so I feel your struggle my bro, the simple truth is any loud volume or bass is going to disturb your neighbor, the type of bass can have some impact but not very much. Instead of buying different speakers can you just turn down the bass with tone controls and maybe try to keep the volume down once it gets dark? I've found that helps a lot with neighbors.
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