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@PolluxTheBat
Жыл бұрын
At least they can never powercreep the music, those tunes are legendary and will always hold a place in our hearts
@Dnite13
Жыл бұрын
idk man some of the new bgm goes hard
@jjct111
Жыл бұрын
@@Dnite13 Nah they ass
@Dnite13
Жыл бұрын
@@jjct111 have you even reached arcus and beyond
@SubLimation7
Жыл бұрын
They literally did power creep the music, the OG stuff is great tho
@Dnite13
9 ай бұрын
@@Niko.. shangri lah and cernium is nuts bro
@gaiawong6710
Жыл бұрын
Our ages power crept too 💀
@ahduhm
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the reminder 😭
@snizzy69
Жыл бұрын
*coughs in my 30s😂
@Vaft91
Жыл бұрын
I feel attacked.
@owvon222
Жыл бұрын
Death comes for us all
@JGCKyle
Жыл бұрын
Agreed been playing on and off since 2005 @ 8 years old and now 26 😢 I was thinking about it today how there are a large portion of us that have been playing this game for longer than a large portion of the players have been alive
@ShaneTheProdigy
Жыл бұрын
Say what u want but i loved OLD MAPLE . Played it every day since 2005 for like 5 to 6 years non stop. lvl 1-30 took a long time, dmg was low but hey the game was way more fun
@Vonmoonlight
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't that took a long time grind that made it fun It was the social chat and activities It was like MSN etc but more interactive in an RPG format While it was pain but satisfying and sometimes even exciting when you start breaking certain damage thresholds, it was a slow grind so it was a game where you pretty much enjoy your time achieving everything in your slow time cuz speed grinding wasn't as encouraged cuz it was so slow anyway. And while you can grind for a chance for above average power boost or you can go for the standard PQ for low power but consistent EQ rewards and they were basically the only way for you to gain more different types of EQ such as face acc.
@Aeterny
Жыл бұрын
Being able to grind, level up, do party quests and boss runs with all the friends you made is why I loved this game despite playing during post-Big Bang. I wish I could go back and experience the memories again, but it seems like it’s all about going solo now.. Bera, 2010 - 2012. :/
@DefineSeizure
11 ай бұрын
play kaizenMS guys
@technicalnonsense
5 ай бұрын
No kidding man. I tried maplestory again several years ago and was shocked how fast you can level up; took me like 1-3 hours to get to level 20 when back in 2005 when I first started playing getting to level 20 with a lot of help from your friends would be consider an outstanding achievement if you could get there grinding an entire night.
@zac-1
Жыл бұрын
i remember when nexon locked magic guard for evan behind a paywall lol
@xKakuzou-yhzn
Жыл бұрын
20 years ago we just need a straw hat, gloves and a towel / sauna robe to reach the 100% of powercreep... things changed quite a lot
@flyingthundergodversion2.086
Жыл бұрын
Dexless sins
@lua7882
27 күн бұрын
it was such amazing, feeling that you could achieve something by only playing, trading and making your own path
@najeea2333
Жыл бұрын
Ill never forget the first time i broke 1k damage in maple. It was on my second job page vs some poor mushroom. 😂
@TurnOnTheBackburner
11 ай бұрын
fires up Rage, uses a Warrior pot, uses Power Slash *Thwack!* +1005 damage!
@Thethewho
Жыл бұрын
Screen was flooded with players back then, now it's flooded with flashy skills and lines
@Brentastrophe
Жыл бұрын
While I like some of the new classes, the best maplestory iteration will always be the 4 original explorer trees + pirate job era. Anything after just started getting a bunch of nonsense
@mohammadelnayef
Жыл бұрын
To be honest, at this point I think nexon should just rework the whole numbers, cut some 0's from everything, and make things sane again. All in some "reverse" big bang update or something like that.
@Jason-ix1yn
Жыл бұрын
I thought of the same thing. Just divide everything by 1000 to make stuff readable again
@Kradily
Жыл бұрын
So stat squish like what WoW did?
@Roflmao6173
Жыл бұрын
@@Jason-ix1yn they introduced unit damage skins just for that
@YoureSoCreezy
Жыл бұрын
@@Roflmao6173 yeah honestly i think its fine with the unit dmg skins, you still have the option to completely cover the screen with numbers if you want
@ValtonZenola
Жыл бұрын
Holy... The moment you mentioned Wonderking, my mind just raced back to so many years ago, when I first played it... I really enjoyed it a bunch when I was able to play it, and honestly miss it
@felipesarinho1767
Жыл бұрын
i cry every time i remember that wonderking is dead
@darkbeetlebot
Жыл бұрын
Same. I started playing maple because I got sick of waiting for wonderking to come back. As soon as it does, I'm there.
@LOSTNOMAD442200
Жыл бұрын
😢 me and a couple of friends of mine played it too. So much fun
@mustbenicee
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention we had to roll our base stats with a dice at character creation. I spent a good hour click for 12/4/4/4 😔
@yournextdoorgamerwithgames2945
Жыл бұрын
Hit like a kick to the skull
@KeroTheInvincible
Жыл бұрын
Nothing quite like rolling a perfect 4/12/4/4.......on a Mage.
@jhandsky
Жыл бұрын
The pain was real with unstable dial-up too 😢
@maksschmidt
Жыл бұрын
Ah the good old days of spending days killing green mushrooms at the top level of HHG in hopes of finding a pan lid.
@Imapuncha
Жыл бұрын
You forgot that on release Unique was the highest potential tier. Then you needed super cubes later on to try for legendary. :)
@PartyQuest
Жыл бұрын
0:35 it was so slow! but so much fun! it bring a tear to my eye. i stopped completely playing in august 2020.
@buffawhale
Жыл бұрын
This brings back so much memories. I remember always struggling to find a party to join when you tried leveling up around level 30s
@GeberWolf
Жыл бұрын
Love these look backs
@thenyxus
Жыл бұрын
Aaahh so much nostalgia - thank you for this video, Coppersan! I used to play Maplestory for HOURS around when it first came out and I miss the old game sometimes. However, it's wild to see how much has been added, along with QOL features. The game is still so fun but it can definitely be a bit intimidating to new or very very old returning players like myself. This is a great TLDR of all the things that have happened over the years!
@lordvasileLive
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people started playing at 9-10yrs old. i got hooked on it in 2007 so i was basically in my last year of high school. dropped out to keep playing it more lol. So you would have to be Gen X to be consider old. Between 1970=11979 those were the harder years @ 20yrs you would be following the cycle of everyone else. School/work/sleep. So only a small amount of millennials had easy money from fortunate folks to invest in Maplestory back than. Given i was 17 in 2007 you can say the hackers were about 25+. "Hey hackers if you read this i know you are over 40+ and hopefully you have a family now, if not i guess karma got you finally from back than.
@thenyxus
Жыл бұрын
@@lordvasileLive I wasn't talking about my age, lol. I meant I was there in the first few years of the game coming out then didn't play for over a decade.
@Freckledd
Жыл бұрын
one of the first sets introduced with a set bonus was actually the Von Leon set. Don't know the specifics but this was not too long after the Big Bang update and the Von Leon castle would be one of the first times where the Skele's in leafre would be dethroned as grinding spot. This period was also dotted with a lot of controversy in EU servers since hacking was rampant which led to one of the few major wipes of illegally acquired gear and mesos.
@Gillian_FFXIV
Жыл бұрын
Oh man I remember Lionheart Castle like it was yesterday - ALL the KSing, the party and loot drama that came with it too lmao and having to constantly channel hop till you found a decent spot that wasn't taken by like 3 parties. It was fun as hell though, but you literally couldn't leave your spot for several hours on end if you wanted to grind for the day 🤣
@extrasoap4881
Жыл бұрын
remember when you found a steely and got rich 😂 and i avoided playing the bowman class because i hated having to pick up arrows
@lordvasileLive
Жыл бұрын
I got rich buy selling MW books20-30.
@EuphoriaFlowersHTX
Жыл бұрын
I wish that they would make a nostalgia server! I think it would be such a hit with new and old players.
@6Monto
Жыл бұрын
totally
@manoqueenz
Жыл бұрын
Like maplelegends?
@6Monto
Жыл бұрын
@@manoqueenz ya but official.
@icws2553
Жыл бұрын
Savage Blow was such an awesome skill!
@backtre8776
7 ай бұрын
That subanis legacy quest is so OG, what a dopamine hit getting that 60% glove for att scroll
@JunnyJai
Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw that login screen then the MV. The nostalgia train came full speed and hit me
@Auricerise
Жыл бұрын
I honestly have no idea how people (especially for the older generations dating back to pre-BB) keep up with the constant additions being added to the system for progression, it's all so overwhelming. I applaud the commitment, even for the casual players haha. I missed the times where everything was simpler and the small things mattered a lot -- people appreciated and celebrated even the smallest achievements, not to mention a lot more social (MSN, Skype, and forums being the main ways to contact each other outside of the game). If you know how today's digital culture works compared to back in the 2000s (bonus points if you experienced it yourself), the concept of instant gratification also ended up creeping into this game in its own ways, which to me, is unfortunate (not to say I don't appreciate improvements). I quit the game a decade ago since I became no longer content with the path the game has gone into alongside with my friends quitting as well for similar reasons. The classes have little to no uniqueness to them anymore (MMs being the only class who can break the damage cap with Piercing Arrow, BMs with Hurricane, NLs with FJ...etc.) and not to mention the amount of pay2win aspects that are still involved. Current MapleStory may has its upsides, but it'll never be at its prime as it was before. It was good when it lasted. 👍
@SalokinRechra
Жыл бұрын
Anyone else remember people going over the 999,999 damage cap by like 50k or something? How did that work?
@ShadowChief117
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunatley with a dying population, powercreep feels like it was kinda necessary. Some fights would be impossible if you couldn't have the power to solo them considering how hard it can be to find people to play.
@TheHeartThatRunsCold
Жыл бұрын
Everything mentioned speaks to why I can never stay when trying to return. Less about it being intimidating, more about it being an insanely time consuming venture if you want to get anywhere.
@050sniper
Жыл бұрын
maple will always hold a special place in my heart =)
@Okiesmokie
Жыл бұрын
Something you missed in this was the old equip enhance system, where you had to buy items in the cash shop to prevent your gear from blowing up when failing an EE/AEE scroll
@sihdoashi182ms
Жыл бұрын
That's AweSun is Awesome (for those who's have time besides doing all the dailys, leveling up their mules, are unemployed and have nothing to do all day, and already earn some money on a youtube channel, to feed themselves, also have a good cell phone to download this mobile maple, and having a bathroom and a mother nearby to help you with the basics stuff). If you're part of it all, you're goddamn lucky.
@notleoso
Жыл бұрын
I used to play MS all the time, but quit a long time ago - rejoined it today and all the memories are flooding back
@ashrafulalam3662
Жыл бұрын
welcome back to the grind soldier
@ChrisMcGiggity
Жыл бұрын
Man this video sure brought back a lot of memories! Great video as always keep it up coppersan! ❤😁 I think the thing I miss most about maplestory (other than it being a more party based game) is the old monster carnival. that was so fun
@matthew6720
Жыл бұрын
Still remember when I hit 1k damage on dexless sin. Was soooo stoked!
@kylestrilcov1181
Жыл бұрын
This video is perfect. Every minute detail.
@nerdywaffles
Жыл бұрын
Scissor of Karma was a game changer when I kept switching mains and only had one Zak Helm…
@spir83
Жыл бұрын
Great vid on the history of every gamers worst nightmare... Powercreep! :D However, you're missing a few "Max damage" numbers in your information while you included pre-3rd job areas and all ;) 99.999 used to be a soft damage cap and doing higher damage would instantly disconnect you... No one even got CLOSE to it anyway pre-4th and potentials... beside ChiefBandit with Meso Explosion, R.I.P Zak runs. This later became 199.999 when 4th job and Pink Bean came out. Little later, we had 999.999 dmg cap (Around Merc, Kaiser and Phantom, not sure the specific date), and Hyper Skills came along there was also Hyper skill allowing for +50.000 for a dmg cap of 1.049.999 Hypers attacks could hit up to 10m (5m? higher? I have conflicting information in my screenshot folders). A special mention to Angelic Busters who could hit 10m each hit when it came out, compared to everyone else who could only hit 1m at the same time. Which is why so many choose her for Magnus runs cause her Purple Ball attack was completely broken with the amount of balls possible and 1m dmg cap was to low for Hard Magnus. This later became 50m as you mentioned, and the +50.000 became 10% instead so hitting 55m would be possible.. which later became "Epic Adventurer" which gives 10% dmg instead. There was also something allowing you to hit +15.000 dmg more when 50m dmg cap was a thing... from somewhere, maybe a party skill or a ring.
@Evan20000
Жыл бұрын
This story has a lot of parallels with the yugioh card game's state 20+ years later.
@MrJbjoao
8 ай бұрын
look at that end scene everyone just spamming big ass skills i love nexon
@derrviel
Жыл бұрын
I had been playing it since 2004-2005 and stopped playing around 10 years ago. This game just randomly popped up in my memory just now and I decided to search it up to see if this game even still exists. Wtf this game has changed so much
@tBarkEditing
Жыл бұрын
I wish Maple had a reasonable way to add low level gear appearance to higher level. I know, this might hurt cash shop sales, but the looks on armor up to level 120 is much more compelling and I feel it's wasted fashion
@ElGarrador
Жыл бұрын
I want to go back to playing Maple, I stopped around 2013 with a lvl 200 Bucc, my gear then was soso, and now what's scaring me is that if i do go back to play once in a while i will have the worst equipment for training in my associated mob level.
@eugenewang4650
Жыл бұрын
i remember when hyperskills first got released, my 200 marksman went from 4 shotting LHC mobs with ultimate strafe to doing 10 lines of 999,999 with spammable snipe and boosting e girl bishops and consistently getting top 50 dojo gloves every week, fun times
@SwiftGale1
Жыл бұрын
This both makes me want to get back into MS again, and not at the same time. I've played somewhat recently, and nostalgia keeps pulling me back in, but with nobody to do party content with and the massive power creep, it never keeps me hooked for long.
@TaylorShuffle
Жыл бұрын
Just started playing Royals for that classic vibes
@tobin1677
Жыл бұрын
Never really played MS, but I have played BDO since it released, and this video got me thinking about power creep. Its actually pretty weird in BDO because the top gear has been around for a while generally, and they don't really make new gear sets, but instead make upgrading so prohibitively difficult that it ends up taking months between upgrades for many players. That said they still add new features that slowly add marginal upgrades to your speed and efficiency and those marginal upgrades really stack up over time.
@joevang1
Жыл бұрын
I miss having massive dupped glitched starforced items.... 300att+ cravens SHEESH good times.
@chemical1274
Жыл бұрын
this bring back memory, i an 32 now and have play when i 14 years old, old game for sure
@rflsms
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how we had the patience to play it 😂 minutes to kill 5 boars! it also took MONTHS to level up
@MrNightRome
Жыл бұрын
that year one and earlier years was some good shit, i remember getting the android set on my NL when almost no one had it
@cayennemist
Жыл бұрын
I like the power creep, I was just thinking last night about how maplestory is like the king of power creep and how its not necessarily a bad thing if balance is maintained. Games like Destiny 2 could learn from this. What makes power creep sustainable is new content and balancing. I feel like more INFLATED damage helps with the dopamine kick. My biggest issue is a no spawn enhancement grinding at lvl 230+
@HowlingDoom
Жыл бұрын
Power Creep isn't inherently bad and exist in pretty much any game with progression. It's expected that the player get better the further they progress and are given new tools and abilities. This is especially true when you have a game thats gone on for 20+ years. Old content is just gonna be power crept and mechanically crept as new shit is done. What matters is what you said, that balance is maintain and that new content is designed with the current power and potential future power, or given some incentive to be done even after it's time.
@cayennemist
Жыл бұрын
@@HowlingDoom I guess what I'm pointing out is that MapleStory should be a model for games that are old that have plateaued. Like Halo, Destiny, and so on.
@Bioniclema90
Жыл бұрын
I play old-school runescape and the community frequently cries about power creep. They know nothing about power creep. Absolutely nothing.
@benedicvelasco
Жыл бұрын
Also, Ragnarok Online. Im surprised it wasnt mentioned. dealing constant 6-10 digit damage is a sign of power creep.
@Elekristy
Жыл бұрын
I keep coming back once in a while. But when i log in i Quick get kinda bored bcs i don't like the endless grind and doing the same dailies over and over. A video like this makes me miss the good old days where maple was a bit more straight forward.
@Nejy
Жыл бұрын
I always get a dose of nostalgia seeing Maplestory back before the Big Bang update. It's too large a dose.
@Snowy123
Жыл бұрын
I feel like power creep made all sense of progression meaningless. I was playing on an prebig bang server and all the small details mattered, how much mesos you have saved up, getting your first 100k, doing damage, even increasing it by 100 more damage all felt good.
@user-tz9jh6pv2j
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was wondering this, you answered my question. I saw how crazy everythhing looked and was wondering if the game was even challenging anymore. I remember dying so many times just to kill Zakum back in 2008. I quit in 2011. I remember it was getting easier and easier that it just got boring. And they weren't releasing new areas or content... just more cash shop stuff and class changes. With how crazy it looked, it didn't seem like a hard game anymore. You confirmed it.
@JaeSleepywood
Жыл бұрын
wow i have not heard wonderking mentioned in forever. what a fun part of my childhood that was.
@christophersinanan886
Жыл бұрын
love the wonder king mention
@tchogon4692
Жыл бұрын
You got my like just for mentioning Grand Chase
@LinWasTaken
Жыл бұрын
I'm so surprised someone mentioned Grand Chance
@ashtia
Жыл бұрын
as a dude that played in 2008 for a while then quit.... BILLION DAMAGE LINES?? i kinda want to play again i cant lie
@darkevilazn
Жыл бұрын
Oh man, POE did in 10 years of power creep, what Maple story took 20 years to do.
@abra238
Жыл бұрын
the old days of genesis spamming 99,999 at dragon nest
@timeobsessed
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe the starforce system was added 9 entire years ago
@Tampenismall
Жыл бұрын
Back then When steely makes you a god
@hannessteffenhagen61
3 ай бұрын
The one thing I'm not a big fan of are the absurd animations. They're cool for a bit, but they just make it so hard to see what's happening on the screen, so you end up turning them off altogether most of the time.
@johnnychun9728
Жыл бұрын
I remember to make my NL back in days to survive a hit was to get the DK skill which isnt that great but the skill itself would still keep a Dexless NL my self alive for a bit to fight BF or any other boss.
@user-tz9jh6pv2j
Жыл бұрын
Ha. Nice video. Perfect timing. I stopped playing MS in 2011 when I graduated college. Suddenly wondered what MS was still around 13 years later. Can't believe the game is still alive. This is confusing as hell though....... they added so much stuff. I really liked when MS was challenging. EVEN when I quit in 2011, I thought it was getting a little too easy. I didn't like how they started making EVERYONE super mobile. The classes started to feel like all the same. There was no reason to choose one class or another anymore. EVERYONE was tanky, mobile, and had range, so why did classes even matter. Instead of creating new areas and monsters, they just kept making changes to the classes. I didn't like the direction it was going in. Crazy that it's still around though.
@hans935
Жыл бұрын
I'm partially thankful I was never ensnared into this game when I was a kid. Otherwise, it might truly be the only thing I could remember growing up.
@sc9573
Жыл бұрын
I was 15 when i started playing maplestory. Im 33 now 😅
@lordvasileLive
Жыл бұрын
Given your name & avatar I highly doubt it. If true lad how much do you weight?
@ilect1690
Жыл бұрын
Empress set may have been made irrelevent but atleast it wasn't forgotten. Cant say the same thing about timeless set
@Rollsspelsmusik
Жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed Maplestory more when it was new. I came to it from Ragnarok Online. Might have been because it was new or because you could actually make builds since all stats did something and you could not max all skills. Back then i also loved the grind, not for the grind itself but because i was one of the top assassins on my server and that was a point of pride and i had gotten something from the time i put in. All in all i liked the game more back then but i still play it xD and i might just be old and sad now i dont know. I just think that by catoring to everyone you cater to no one.
@DarksoulIIV
Жыл бұрын
man i miss old maple story
@Henrique-up4su
3 ай бұрын
The game went from "paper mario" to "disgaea" levels of damage 😂
@juniorbent3776
Жыл бұрын
Major power creep when max meso was increased from 2.1bil
@Shrouded_reaper
Жыл бұрын
Love monetary inflation
@ferarry13
Жыл бұрын
Just got back to the game after a really long absence. Last time I played was when zero released. The game feels more bloated every time I try and come back and play lol. This time at least it feels fresher with the reworks compared to before. Reboot server is pretty fun!
@postpwnmalone
Жыл бұрын
if Maplestory still had the playerbase it had from the 2000's it would be a serious MMO contender. It's just too big with not enough players
@UlmaAum
Жыл бұрын
This video triggered me with the amount off stuff but specially the > normal < monsters having 3.8 BILLION hp 💀💀💀
@ttan7293
Жыл бұрын
by the year 2030 the entire screen would be nothing but numbers
@garretth4240
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much sums up why even though I'd really want to get back to this game, but just can't. There is just too much complicated systems that I need to understand if I want to progress further. I'd really want to experience all those new bossing but it's just unrealistic for me. Surely there's gonna be quite a lot players that enjoys these system but its just not for me
@blackcat7741
Жыл бұрын
I like this game so much because there is always something you can do hehe I started playing this game on 2020 but the way.
@inoob26
Жыл бұрын
Those were simpler times...
@TalesKursped
Жыл бұрын
Good old days ;)
@pondypoo
Жыл бұрын
What I hate is how every job no longer has their own playstyle or gimmick Now, every class does the same, just with a different animation
@Jay-dx9fi
Жыл бұрын
I think what would fix maplestory would be seasons. 2-3 month seasons everyone starts with nothing and theres special events etc specific to the season. Like path of exile and diablo etc
@Software.Engineer
Жыл бұрын
for me the reason i come back every now adn then is because of the NUMBERSSSSSSSSSS
@TyeCozMusic
Жыл бұрын
Damage felt better when you were pushing to hit 1k for the first time.. and then 10k for the first time. Hitting billions always feels lame in my opinion. So many lines too it's awful.
@dmgonzalesl19
Жыл бұрын
Always wait to the special thanks to hear You saying ramaghja
@ElleEnd
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the content
@BananaPrint510
Жыл бұрын
What ever happened to Tiger?
@gruze16
Жыл бұрын
for real the biggest problem in this game after returning, starting legion up to 4k and such was simply the fact that I had no idea how much damage I was doing at a given moment, in early levels u level up so fast while the skills in most jobs give u straight out pure damage up to 20%-30% stronger character in few levels so it shifts every moment together with u using AP points u gain per level.. not right away . can forget that for 50 levels and u wont notice . so many numbers on the screen without any dots or anything to differ 100k line to 1m line, impossible . if stats were more balanced instead the skills having 560% damage for 6 lines to a point that doing the math is more than easy . no more than 200% damage per line skills with empowered stats
@ScottyFlysFast
Жыл бұрын
I'm just Scotty Flys Fast :( Not Scotty, Flys Fast
@hydra4370
Жыл бұрын
I remember playing demon slayer in maple story when he came out as a kid, and being so fucking confused at what the fuck I was doing and how to play the game in general. I can vividly remember getting some mace and keeping it for a very long time. I could understand BDO but not maplestory and I dont think i'll be able to go back and try to understand it lol
@tommyiswild
Жыл бұрын
Insane, dude
@bankait_rex1860
3 ай бұрын
Call me stupid but I want to go back in time and play maplestory the way we all loved.
@tbgfirephoenix9221
Жыл бұрын
I miss the pqs and how social the game used to be. Now it's more about solo play and nothing grouped unless you are getting carries. Just wish they would bring pqs back
@juniorbent3776
Жыл бұрын
If you didn't have to get Maple Warrior 30 books, address me as Mr. Sir
@laww8968
Жыл бұрын
Classic servers pre-gacha when Nexon? :)
@felipesarinho1767
Жыл бұрын
the one thing that make i cannot play maple actually is absurd ammount the colors and effects and particles in my face, use a skill to farm the entire map, up a character to lvl 100 in the same moment i create, i know we not have time, but this speed is ridiculous, were is the challenge? we dont have anymore. i dream with a official old school server that never will exist.
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