You forgot: Coding for 5 hours only to realize that there is a way better solution.
@BOZ_11
7 ай бұрын
yeah, co-pilot
@yaboijulian1880
7 ай бұрын
I feel attacked 😅
@anonymous-go3cd
6 ай бұрын
😂😂 fr
@graceabyyy
3 ай бұрын
thisss😭😭
@lockhart1895
3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@simonandersson7067
Жыл бұрын
Pretending to do sfuff: 5 hours
@oozly9291
Жыл бұрын
Still getting paid a lot tho
@elcapitan6126
Жыл бұрын
IG programmers in a nutshell. i.e. quota filling attractive people
@imhassane
Жыл бұрын
Swear to god 😂😂😂 I can code pretty quickly and with very good quality, so I like to waste some time pretending to do stuff then code things quickly and act as if I was busy 😂 works like a charm every time
@ma_verite
11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@tahdallas
10 ай бұрын
Exactly 😂
@aguywith5names362
Жыл бұрын
Debugging: INFINITY
@ronakcrj7663
Жыл бұрын
😂
@gamerboyfahimfah3852
10 ай бұрын
@@ronakcrj7663 Its true, when you're debugging your also googling things up when you dont know on what that error means or you have no idea on what is the problem with code.
@MrDare889
3 ай бұрын
true
@uchiha-itachi-is-typing
2 ай бұрын
это да может занять до пары дней за раз почти без еды и сна чисто пишу код сверяю отдаю в тестировку тестировщик ломает мой код я сижу 12 часов и чиню все
@hirenahir76200
2 ай бұрын
Yeah I can't solve one error for like now it's almost a week
@Pixel_Po27
3 ай бұрын
Proceeds to solve problem in their dreams and must get up to check if it works.
@eddob
Ай бұрын
Bro this is so real
@Situayo
Ай бұрын
This😅
@nitogravelord8118
Ай бұрын
Its real even in school.
@osatohamhensamuelebhohon8259
Ай бұрын
Ahahahahahahahahahahahajajahah I dream of my codes lol.... Fuck sometimes it works not exactly as it did in the dream but a few twerk lol
@alfonzo7822
24 күн бұрын
Thought I was the only one 😅
@banchanbet4524
7 ай бұрын
here is what i do: 30 minutes meeting, 1 hour coding, 21 hours and 30 minutes: fixing my damn buggy code, sleep 1 hour
@GoldEnrolled1
4 ай бұрын
💀
@mohammadalam9936
Ай бұрын
Lol
@-._.-What-Is-Up-._.-
Ай бұрын
.. and Die at young age
@Rais_Dev
Ай бұрын
Вот это похоже на правду 😅 Тоже знакомо.
@timmy7201
Ай бұрын
For me it's: - 30 minutes of facepalms during meetings - 1 hour, trying to convince our tech lead his solution is crap - 30 minutes of presenting a better solution to my colleagues - Tech lead pushing his solution through anyways Two weeks later: - 5 days of trying to fix the jank our tech-lead directed to one of my colleauges - 2 days of rewriting the whole thing my way, so that things finally work
@NomadicBrian
2 ай бұрын
You forgot 2 hours calling tech support because they reset your access to 3 servers and 2 databases again.
@humaenist
Ай бұрын
I was just about two write this
@timmy7201
Ай бұрын
I worked at a university once, as embedded software engineer... Had to maintain and develop a sensor network on campus, for scientific research. One of the outdoor sensor setups, was outside campus wifi range. - 2.5 years of weekly calling tech-support to install an outdoors wifi AP to extend range. I was forced to utilize on campus servers, as this was university policy. - 2.5 years of weekly calling devops, if there is a solution to port-forward our MQQT broker. So our off-campus installations could also send data to our database. I often had to order parts, to build new sensor systems... - 2.5 years of weekly calling the ordering department, why I still hadn't received the order I placed 6 weeks ago. Weekly teammeeting: - Me being blamed by my team, for not accomplishing anything in time - Me asking help of others in my team, to finally get these issues through their bureaucratic structure My resignation interview, when I quit after 2.5 years of this nonsense: - Me explaining that I can't do my engineering job this way - Me explaining that nobody in the team, voluntary helps me after I ask multiple times. They however expect me to drop my work instantly, in order to help them with their work whenever they see my face. - Me being scolded "for not being a team-player"! Glad I'm out of that toxic s***hole
@ashwin_mahajan
18 күн бұрын
Which company was it that they have tech support for developers?
@VitisCZ
18 күн бұрын
@@ashwin_mahajanit's not tech support for developers but a customer that has their own servers and the admins reset your access so you call their tech support to get access again
@timmy7201
15 күн бұрын
@@ashwin_mahajan Whenever you work for big corpo, you're forced to do everything through their default tech-support. I've been frustrated massively multiple times, as something that I could do in 10 minutes takes 10 months through their incompetent tech-support...
@user-di1uc5vt8u
Жыл бұрын
My typical day reverse engineering: 24/7 debug.
@DirtyFan2
6 ай бұрын
What is debugging? I’ve done few debugging at school but how do you guys even get into debugging at all if your company is the one who makes websites / software etc?
@coldxushi
4 ай бұрын
@@DirtyFan2make a big side project and you'll understand
@mr.doctorcaptain1124
3 ай бұрын
@@DirtyFan2 programmers are not perfect and they make mistakes all the time. Debugging is fixing mistakes, which can arise from many potential situations. An example of a very common bug. Programmer tries to write a line of cpp that is supposed to execute function(bob) if the integer Rex is equal to exactly 10. He writes: if(Rex=10) { bob(); } But what the code I just did does is it will set the integer Rex to the value 10, then will run function bob no matter what. To fix it, it should read if(Rex==10) Errors like that are extremely easy to make, and when your entire program is 1-2 million lines of code, it’s easy to miss.
@oliveryt7168
3 ай бұрын
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 would Rex be evaluated to false? I am not familiar with C++... In the languages I have worked with you cant even make an assignment in the condition field.. But yeah, good example actually. This is a bug that an IDE or the Compiler wont show you (at least not if it hasnt some kind of extension for that kind of bugs).
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman
2 ай бұрын
@@DirtyFan2 warcraft 3 map editor taught me what that was and i didnt even realize it because its such a simple (GUI) form of coding or whatever (p.s. stormgate will rule gaming for the next 20 years mark my words) atleast my guess is that its when you write the functions of the application, the software, the program, whatever u wanna call it, and you innately fuck it up and it just doesnt work and you have to figure out why by trial and error and problem solving. its really fun but for someone to do it 24/7 (game developers) you pretty much have to have autism/aspergers. LMAO
@D.A.A.321
4 ай бұрын
She forgot about “changing outfits several times” and “retaking numerous shots for my short”.
@---xd4wm
Ай бұрын
you forgot spending an hour on a redpill reddit
@student_of_God
Ай бұрын
Staring at someone's code- 10hrs
@daviesprecious267
12 күн бұрын
hahahaha
@odec1831
8 ай бұрын
And as a junior dev the 4hrs of programming is really 2 hours of programming and another 2 hours of googling, reading documentation, or navigating a code base 😂😂
@mq1847
5 ай бұрын
hey do you have any tips to find jobs as a junior tech? I was in 6 months for tech placement program and am having a hard time finding a job:(
@odec1831
5 ай бұрын
@@mq1847 I would probably echo the tips you’ve already found: getting a few good projects together, making sure your resume is professional and appropriate for SE/CS jobs, applying to as many places as possible, and being well prepared for interviews in being able to explain your approach to coding problems but also showing why you’re a fit for the company (how your knowledge matches parts of their job description). Networking helps tremendously if you can get referrals from people you know (how I got mine), but you can also build relationships over linked in with people who work/worked at a company and sometimes even recruiters. Also being very flexible helps, applying to lower paying jobs, non remote jobs, internships even if they accept non students, and out of state jobs if you can and see if they’ll give you a moving stipend. If you covered front end stuff then your projects/portfolio should be sufficient to get you in the door of a lot of those jobs. And of course to not give up. I know people who are much better candidates than I am who have done 70 and 150+ applications but thats the grind we have.
@qwer55555555
2 ай бұрын
@@mq1847 its hard. Try ops, then as times go and you have stable position try dev. Maybe do some small tools to automate your job or to make life easier (QoL). It's always an advantage to have anything to share, not only bootcamp/school
@Egzvorg
Ай бұрын
it's the same for seniors
@rumble1925
Ай бұрын
@@mq1847 Also the same for seniors right now
@windestruct
13 күн бұрын
The buggy code is the reason I'll definitely be a computer technician rather than a software developer
@EduardoSantanaSeverino
Жыл бұрын
Totally right the 24 hour debugging time. * When a programmer engaged in solving a bug 🐛 it is day and night in his/her head.
@kitcat2449
2 ай бұрын
This remind me....When I was still in college, our project group tried to figure out a mysterious bug for the whole day in vain. I woke up at 2 am with an idea, opened my notes app on my phone and started typing hasty code. I went back to sleep and tested the code in the morning. It worked! Sleep deprived brain works in mysterious ways :D
@Sky_media237
Ай бұрын
@@kitcat2449ahhaahhahaha this was funny for some reason😂😂😂😂
@Sky_media237
Ай бұрын
@@kitcat2449btw since u went to college for software engineering can u give me some tips too? Im tryna do software engineering or developer in csn
@SukatoaOfficial
11 ай бұрын
Thats for junior/mid devs. Its different in senior devs: - meetings 1.5-3 hours - 1on1 sessions 1-n(#of peers) - whole day consultations - 6 hours programming compressed to 1.5 hour - debugging 24 hours compressed to 2-3 hours - grooming tickets - Code reviews - Random quick meetings - Organizing team with soft skills - Business to Technical specs translations - Implementation Decision makings - Enforcing proprietary coding standards - Creating and evolving team culture - 1 to 3 external monitors Good luck to your journey!
@hanac5586
6 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
@djimiwreybigsby5263
2 ай бұрын
Gawd! That sounds daunting and tedious... I hope they pay you a shit ton of money😊
@squeeeb89
2 ай бұрын
Yes
@6IGNITION9
Ай бұрын
wtf is grooming ticket
@sectorseven4771
Ай бұрын
@@6IGNITION9 Backlog grooming is a regular session where backlog items are discussed, reviewed, and prioritized by product managers, product owners, and the team
@Error243-57
2 ай бұрын
actual time : 1 second waking up 23 hours and 59 minutes and 58 seconds debugging 1 second sleep
@kritikalandor97
Ай бұрын
nah, you sleep more and work less than 99% of the population
@livedreamsg
7 ай бұрын
Laughs in tech lead role with maybe 30 minutes to an hour of coding a day and the rest in meetings.
@bernabex2
5 ай бұрын
how only 30 mins of coding?
@squeeeb89
2 ай бұрын
Less again, the 30 mins is correcting the last 5 days work of your team. Or unblocking the y fixable bug.
@serendipity4475
Жыл бұрын
you totally glamorized it
@emilyau8023
11 ай бұрын
How is showing debugging for up to 24hrs glamorizing?
@MariaSantos-uo3pb
10 ай бұрын
…how
@lelachristine86
5 ай бұрын
Sarcasm people lol
@Idkchangethislater
4 ай бұрын
24 hrs debugging got me flaccid 🗿
@grug_son_of_thog
Ай бұрын
Man I wish I only had 1.5 hours of meetings a day
@xmadman19x
Ай бұрын
Debugging time so accurate 🤣
@imanroem6313
Жыл бұрын
My brotah : debugging 4 days 😂
@mio9525
23 күн бұрын
debugging bathroom breaks: 3 years
@madara55655
11 ай бұрын
debugging:7hours chatgpt:1 hour
@curiousmind2330
8 ай бұрын
Can you explain how to do it via chat GPT...may be chances to codes to be leaked
@Zeroduckies
8 ай бұрын
@@curiousmind2330you don’t have paste code instead have chatgpt provide solutions to the problem. Then take what you need from it.
@sephiroth7818
8 ай бұрын
Keep setting us all up to be out of jobs….
@blvckhvgo6828
8 ай бұрын
@curiousmind2330 you literally just ask it a question how would I fix this or debug etc paste problem after the question it solves it gives you the answer copy and paste or enter the solution
@curiousmind2330
8 ай бұрын
@@blvckhvgo6828 thanks 👍🏼
@saldoesstuff
3 ай бұрын
hardest part of programming? DEBUGGING
@princeofxane
Ай бұрын
Hmm.. try maintaining things you written after 2 years. (New fear unlocked)
@javierclement3047
Ай бұрын
This video gave me arthritis. It’s hard to believe this is a programmer’s actual set-up. One laptop screen? Trackpad ? Facing sunlight against your computer screen? You certainly are making it harder for yourself that’s for sure .
@shard2933
Ай бұрын
It' my case. Facing against window is great for treating depression. Just adjust screen brightness, don't use dark themes - and everything visible on it
@Eysh2009
Ай бұрын
Actually, I do write code against the sun, the depression thing is real. And vitamin D as well. Although, I use dark mode everywhere 😅
@klightgrove-vk8zw
Ай бұрын
Trackpad is fine. You are using IDE shortcuts to develop anyway, not flicking your mouse around.
@Smongo412
Ай бұрын
She must have good eyes. A laptop screen that far away is crazy to me
@TheHy6xD
Ай бұрын
what’s wrong with trackpad? and screen is on good height
@nilofc
3 ай бұрын
That’s how I know you are not a developer….. you only have one monitor and it is your laptop monitor.
@John7No
Ай бұрын
I was looking for that comment!!! Never met a dev to this day that they use their laptop monitor while on desk
@princeofxane
Ай бұрын
And how the heck you can see things from that distance without straining your eyes.
@thenecroyeti1
Ай бұрын
Lmao that's me
@---xd4wm
Ай бұрын
@@John7No nice to meet you, I use my laptop with no other displays since the beginning of a pandemic, I also use an ironing board as a table senior dev for more than 15 years
@John7No
Ай бұрын
@@---xd4wm and that might be true. but since the point seems to elude you, which is that the majority of the devs do not.
@classicemmaeasy2292
2 ай бұрын
Remembering how to fix bug in the toilet 😂
@itskittyme
17 күн бұрын
watching coding videos on youtube: 200 days
@T1Oracle
17 күн бұрын
Unable to leave the desk because a coworker just clocked a 16 hr per day average last week, and performance reviews are coming up!
@Niesmiesznyy
8 ай бұрын
That's why I'm scared and excited to be a programmer
@blvckhvgo6828
8 ай бұрын
Same do you know if the field is still good to get into
@Neiro.
8 ай бұрын
@@blvckhvgo6828of course its good also is a futuristic field so working in this would be very good for you with good jobs offer
@BanksRolls
7 ай бұрын
@@blvckhvgo6828yes but it’s very competitive now.
@greyshopleskin2315
7 ай бұрын
Hey, the nice thing is that you solve problems while you’re sleeping. A few days ago a teammate literally had an idea while sleeping
@Neiro.
7 ай бұрын
@@greyshopleskin2315 happend to me xd i think 2 days ago and my brother told me xd
@iron6672
Ай бұрын
You give real devs like me a bad name. A real dev doesn’t have time to change outfits 5 times a day and record tiktoks
@GabrieleRusso93
Ай бұрын
That is that fakest take in the history of fake takes
@hariswirabrata6740
21 күн бұрын
2/3 of time is wandering around code base and figuring out what's what
@aryanswiichannel4667
8 күн бұрын
I realise how chaotic I am as a person because of this video lol
@isahbala2540
Жыл бұрын
I love you because there is always Notebook and pen on your table 👌.
@simoneshaw8269
4 ай бұрын
does being a programmer make you hot too?
@iliyaisd
8 ай бұрын
Looks like a very nice location and working setup
@JemmaGuaney
Ай бұрын
Why's she coding on the small laptop screen and not the larger one handing from the wall ??
@buttjunkie7956
Ай бұрын
@@JemmaGuaney Because that's a tv and she's working while holidaying somewhere.
@kidsneedhometraining
13 күн бұрын
We forgot one thing, mostly for python coders.. using too many loop commands and then crying when we realize we could’ve just put it in normally and copy and pasted it-
@jimmyleo5414
3 күн бұрын
Code review usually takes me 5 sec.
@MaryamGouhary
11 ай бұрын
I appreciate your hard work, as a junior who has started coding and seeing the struggle of learning about codes, i really appreciate you. You cheer me up to continue so it's possible to become expert. I wonder if can i become expert in a young age as you!
@bagasulistya
2 ай бұрын
thanks for footage angle ideas. i recreate this angle using my own desk setting.
@0000lexx
7 ай бұрын
that chair looks super comfy.... any trick with chairs when u are travelling?
@incomefreedom
Ай бұрын
Wow what a beautiful view to work with the ocean and trees
@chillinwmika8647
10 ай бұрын
How on earth are you prgraramming on that little screen! I had to get hooked up to two 34 inch monitors to feel like I have enough space and am not blind. 😂
@ibnfpv
Ай бұрын
So true (; I love that on that one day that you going to smash and cleans all your tasks , Murphy is coming as a co pilot at set you a full day of bugs investigations (;
@leckam
Ай бұрын
I like your desk setup.
@amirdashti
27 күн бұрын
Procrastinating: yes
@unicorn1655
14 күн бұрын
10% writing buggy code, 90% creating more bugs trying to fix the bugs
@user-fu8gq5xg5u1
6 күн бұрын
Yeah of course. He sits straight in his cosmetics, calmly writes code, goes away to talk, write in the messenger. After all, the code is like in a movie - press buttons randomly and values appear. After 4-5 hours of coding, I don’t really want to type something letter by letter in the messenger. And it’s rare that anyone sits dressed up because you constantly touch their faces, heads, hair, and also eat and drink there.
@yurasokil3095
8 ай бұрын
The debugging part is so true lol
@blvckhvgo6828
8 ай бұрын
Do you feel this is a great field to get into still I hear with all the AI BS it makes it hard to decide
@hanac5586
6 ай бұрын
@@blvckhvgo6828You could specialize in ai or cybersecurity, but at least in my country companies don't use ai that much. They still prefer real people and real people use ai as a tool. A gentle reminder that software engineering is not just coding.
@mbamarahjulia6111
7 ай бұрын
1 - 24hrs is so real
@denisblack9897
Ай бұрын
More like: pretending to be employed 16 hours😅
@Moosems-pk8vc
2 ай бұрын
You forgot debugging for days on a bug that’s critical just to realize you typed the wrong number into your equation somewhere else and hadn’t noticed
@cassidian
13 күн бұрын
Looks always like a Apple Merchandisings. 😅😅😅 I can’t work like this but keep going
@ugurunver2403
Ай бұрын
Everyone complain about debugging but it is actually an easy task. The real enemy is refactoring. I think there is a misconception about the difference of debugging and refactorting.
@user-cc5pq4yp8u
Ай бұрын
Refactoring is what, updating the code?
@ugurunver2403
Ай бұрын
@@user-cc5pq4yp8uYes but in detail, it is most like updating the existing and already in-use codes, designs and structures. It basically means to remove some specific parts of the existing code carefully and rebuild them with the new structures/paradigms/architectures etc.
@ugurunver2403
Ай бұрын
@@user-cc5pq4yp8uDebugging = stopping the pain Refactoring = organ transplanting
@owacs_ender
Ай бұрын
Debugging: 1-24 Hours GOT ME
@user-em3pv3ep1x
17 күн бұрын
Looks like a nice gig
@Yelenots
14 күн бұрын
This looks like my absolute nightmare, being stuck inside on a screen all day while it’s absolutely beautiful outside. No thanks.
@superjke718
Ай бұрын
You forgot about spending 4 hours of the day in various scrum ceremonies
@danielm6507
Ай бұрын
Ergonomics should be revisited, specifically the sitting set up
@javierclement3047
Ай бұрын
Seeing that trackpad gave me arthritis .
@JemmaGuaney
Ай бұрын
@@javierclement3047 The laptop arrangement is best, which she could have arranged with her lose peripherals. However, why isn't she using the larger screen on the wall, instead of that piddly MacBook screen ??
@minhdzung
Ай бұрын
Love u love your energy!
@StolenBandaid
2 ай бұрын
Idk about you guys but that video flew by....best 4 hours I've spent in a long time
@MrTomas7777
Ай бұрын
Waiting 30 minutes as your code compiles just to test for 1 minute.
@user-hr1wv5wn9r
13 күн бұрын
How do you work with such a wonderful outside view? I can't resist to go for a walk.
@slotos
20 күн бұрын
Existential crisis: 24hrs/day
@Devytef
29 күн бұрын
1. Using a big screen 2. Using Linux
@suspiciousactivity4266
Ай бұрын
"WtF do I do??" - 2 days
@reshanfaraz
25 күн бұрын
Debugging: abandon the code and go for version 1010 😂
@hanac5586
6 ай бұрын
I love how debugging has the most hours because yeah :D
@crisyglo
4 ай бұрын
If that's a programmer i work in marketing
@user-kd7jf6et8r
3 ай бұрын
What?
@anitha2053
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 you mean client meetings
@SebastianWesterholm
Ай бұрын
5/5 Hello World's for the choice of song
@elcanpenahov435
2 ай бұрын
Also 3 hours to find the missing bracket
@omegabulldog5001
Ай бұрын
it was 2 days for me and my team to find the "O" that was mistakenly put in instead of a "0" many years back in my college years doing a project.......
@LA-cm9uo
2 ай бұрын
1-24 hours had me rolling hahaha
@TroySan1985
2 ай бұрын
basically the stuff you enjoy
@michaelanthonygutierrez
Жыл бұрын
Where is your chair from ? Thanks 🙏
@hosanlee4851
Ай бұрын
there is simply no way that my desk is so clean
@luduende
Жыл бұрын
Oh how we have the same work life in different careers. Architect here.
@lazregbilel6728
Жыл бұрын
I love the way you are 🌹❤️
@P3R3TS
Ай бұрын
Coding: 1 hour Debugging: 1 week Edits: INF
@devgabriel6898
Жыл бұрын
just 1.5hr of meetings? Dream job haha. Some weeks i have like 3h of meetings (most of them useless)
@coding_nomad
Жыл бұрын
Some days I have 3 hours+ of meetings as well, and some days I only have a quick standup! I showed an average in my video :)
@emmanuelonwoh4696
9 ай бұрын
Don't forget getting upset over bugs and breaking your mum's favorite vase
@coding_nomad
9 ай бұрын
😂😂
@arod3295
Ай бұрын
Thank you for not just drinking coffee. So this is what the job really IS. Ty
@laterwell
25 күн бұрын
How fast you write determines how long you debug
@sanjidhossin591
29 күн бұрын
Speed of typing 😂😂😂😂
@kitcat2449
2 ай бұрын
I need to improve my ergonomy. I don't know if this is just for the video, but her posture is a great example of how not to get a headache and stiff shoulders.
@ahmadizzate4006
9 күн бұрын
Dear programmers : you are the only one who can build his own tools, and my advice to everyone is instead of wasting your time on coding, write a software that helps you do your job better, and this is a guaranteed way to save your time as I have been using this approach for the last 20 years
@BrinleyBlogette
11 ай бұрын
I could never work with a single laptop screen 😂
@Malo.1301
2 ай бұрын
I could never work on MacOS or Windows 😂
@Nem_FFXIV
23 күн бұрын
that debugging hit me right in the jellies
@user-bx8bk2iw8j
6 ай бұрын
beautiful scenery, where is this?
@kitcat2449
2 ай бұрын
Debugging taking most of the time is so true
@LaoZhao11
Ай бұрын
A nice laptop stand is necessary to protect your neck
@wadechandler5628
7 ай бұрын
Love the debugging one. Can be so true.
@0D0A476
Ай бұрын
Team meeting 1.5 hours per day as a dev ? jeez
@cha-cha3806
23 күн бұрын
I'd die if I had to use that tiny screen 😂
@jonathansaindon788
Ай бұрын
You forgot updating the damn functional documentation.. AGAIN! 😂
My debugging time is between 30 minutes and 700 hours
@tevinjones3588
5 күн бұрын
Debugging: Priceless.
@elementoflight6834
19 күн бұрын
Or more likely, 1h getting really, 1h morning meeting. 30min getting back to coding. 2h coding. Lunchbreak. 30 min getting back to coding, 1h coding, 1h afternoon meeting, 1h debugging 1h time recording. Process reports and other organizational bs.
@user-hj4cs1uv6d
Ай бұрын
I am also a developer, but I am in meetings almost all the time and envy you
@SpazeOfficial
4 күн бұрын
So a day is anything from 8 to 32 hours? 32 hours a day seems intense... damn
@golf1925
Ай бұрын
this gives me anxiety lol
@Photoshopper2010
17 күн бұрын
sometimes meetings take 4 hours and coding 15 minutes per day )
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