Thanks for watching! Tell me what you think about this topic in the comments below 👇. Also let me know if you have any questions about studying or building your career in Finland.
@SwissOnZ
2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Been in algorithms but great.
@Joefromthevalley
3 жыл бұрын
I am somewhat considering doing an MBA, maybe in a decade from now. I am in law school, so depending on finances I may very well pursue this.
@RoadtoFinnish
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe and thanks for sharing your thoughts! Do note that doing an MBA is quite a bit different from a MSc in economics and business admin. This would depend on the school, but my understanding is that MBA's are quite practical and they cover quite a wide range of topics in management and business. However, a MSc can be quite specific depending on your major. For example, i majored in entrepreneurship and innovation management (doesnt say much but it was basically business strategy and management) and we did not have any business calculus or stuff about the mathematical side of a business. Instead, my entire major programme was very focused. In my understanding, MBA's are much wider in their topics. This is a great thing especially if you are doing an MBA as a second degree because it gives you a wide range of tools for business management. A MSc simply drills deeper into a more narrow field of research.
@charlottexu4333
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Oliver for your sharing! That helps a lot when preparing for my personal study plan in Aalto. I am thinking about the choices among minor study ,exchange study or doing internship when considering the PSP and would be happy if you can share more insights related to that topic in your following updates!😊
@RoadtoFinnish
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Charlotte! Im so sorry for the late response, but I hope that this answer helps you get further. The question about ones minor studies is a complicated one and its really hard to give good advice without knowing you in person. This is because, on paper, some minors might look better than others, but the thing is that I would never recommend you to minor in a subject that you think is good for your career (because that's what people say) while actually hating the subject. This is a trap that many people step into and it leads to a lot of burnouts and unhappy careers as people get stuck with a career choice that they end up hating. Having said that, here is what I did with my minor + some self reflection after the fact. *Bachelor's programme* → Major: Accounting and business administration → Minor: Exchange studies (5 months) in Munich Germany (Technical University of Munich) Ive mentioned this in this video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/xoGm2Z6NiHNydGU but choosing Accounting and biz admin as my major was a _major_ (pun intended) mistake as i applied to it, not because I was interested in the subject, but because it was recommended to me as a good career choice (its really easy to get a job as a graduate with biz admin as major either as a consultant or in financial admin). Choosing the wrong major not only slowed my studies (because I had no motivation) but it also had a negative impact on my grades (because I had no motivation). More importantly these things combined meant that I didn't actually learn that much from it. This is why I tend to think that I wasted the entirety of my Bachelor's programme whilst everyone else learned a ton working on subjects that they were actually interested (and invested) in. While I hated my major, choosing to do an exchange period as my minor (doing an exchange period is equivalent to minor studies) was the right choice as I in general enjoyed my stay in Munich. However, doing an exchange period has its ups and downs. The pros are mostly linked to the fact that you get to travel and live in an other country. Exchange studies are usually also not that difficult as many international universities have curriculums for exchange students that are not difficult to pass. This is because many universities (e.g. in Australia) have realised that if they make exchange students sit in the library 24/7, they will not have the time to get to know these awesome countries. If you think about it, the host country always has the incentive to make your stay as positive as possible because its their way to make you interested in moving there on a working visa. So while exchange studies are in general fun and not that demanding, the con is exactly that - you don't necessarily learn that much substance. While living in an other country and socialising with people from other cultures is something you should always cherish, it does not give you that many applicable skills to be used at work. So if you think that moving to Finland is already exciting enough for you, I would perhaps recommend taking a different minor. About minor studies in general. In addition to the recommendation above, I usually urge everyone to take a minor that compliments ones major studies. E.g. if you major in finance, accounting and biz admin is a great choice for a minor. On the other hand, if you major in marketing, perhaps you should consider communication as your minor. However, an other way to look at this is also that hard, quantitative studies (economics, finance, accounting...) never go to waste. Being good with numbers and having at least a shallow understanding of what kind of math businesses revolve around is a valuable skill. *Master's programme* → Major: Entrepreneurship and Innovation Management: www.aalto.fi/en/study-options/masters-programme-in-entrepreneurship-and-innovation-management → Minor: Information Technology Program (ITP): www.aalto.fi/en/school-of-business/information-technology-program-itp In my Master's, I majored in entrepreneurship and innovation management (EIM) which is a multidisciplinary programme specifically at Aalto University. The degree itself is quite diverse and you can specialise in multiple different subjects (you can see the entire curriculum here: into.aalto.fi/display/eneim/Programme+studies+2018-2020). I had most of my courses in EIM about sustainable business, but you can mix the topics up as you wish. I really enjoyed EIM and you can really see a difference in my grades (4.77/5.00) if you compare this major to that of my Bachelor's degree (GPA 3.00/5.00). The funny thing is that I did not put any extra effort into school, but I was simply more interested in the topic and this drove my motivation to focus and learn. My minor for my Master's degree was also a multidisciplinary programme called information technology programme (ITP). This was an interested choice as it took place during the summer. The programme was at its trial period when I took it so it has changed somewhat since my participation. More information through the link above. *Multidisciplinary programmes vs strictly business programmes* In my experience multidisciplinary programmes are a good choice if you are not completely sure what you want to do when you graduate, or perhaps if you already know that you want to manage an international and multidisciplinary team (e.g. in product development). These programmes give you skills that help you understand all parties and that really give you perspective outside out normal business bubble. However, if you have a clear picture of what you want to do after graduation, you should choose a major and minor that reflect those ambitions. For example, if you know that you want to work as a management consultant, I really recommend majoring in finance, accounting and biz admin or economics while minoring in one of the other subjects (the more numbers you deal with, the better). On the other hand, if you want to work with social media or sales, I really recommend majoring in marketing and perhaps minoring in accounting and biz admin (modern marketing and sales is analytics based and understanding numbers and how to analyse them is key). *TOO LONG DIDNT READ* → Choose your major and minor based on your sincere interests and career ambitions, not based on what other people say is good → Choose a combination of major and minor so that they compliment each other → Exchange studies are fun, but you don't learn as much substance as if you did a minor at you home university → Multidisciplinary studies are great if you don't really know what you want to do, or if you want to lead a multinational and multidisciplinary team → Strict business studies are perfect if you have clear career ambitions towards e.g. management consultancy, finance or other traditional business jobs Sorry for the long answer :D. I hope you get something out of this.
@charlottexu4333
4 жыл бұрын
@@RoadtoFinnish wow that's very informative! so happy to get more ideas from your experiences..that's very nice of you. 'never recommend you to minor in a subject that you think is good for your career...' I agree! guess I'd make a smarter choice after your sharing. Thank you Oliver. I really appreciate it.😃
@RoadtoFinnish
4 жыл бұрын
@@charlottexu4333 No problem at all. Im glad if this gave you some new perspectives.
@milanshorts3223
2 жыл бұрын
@@RoadtoFinnish thank you…
@houssam2076
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Oliver, I have a question if you graduate in a vocational qualification in business would you be able to continue in a business university and what grade or semester you will start with.
@RoadtoFinnish
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Houssam! This is a difficult question to answer as the rules are not universal and they differ between programmes. My recommendation is that you should contact any university admission services for more detailed answers. E.g. Aalto University admission services can be contacted via admissions@aalto.fi Anyways, this is how ive understood the matter: *Does a vocational qualification qualify you to apply for a higher education degree?* → In general yes, however this will depend on the degree programme you want to apply to (detailed information on each programme admission website) → The general requirements are as follows (source: Aalto University www.aalto.fi/en/study-at-aalto/admission-to-the-bachelors-programme-in-economics-bachelor-and-master-of-science-in): All applicants must fulfill the general eligibility requirements for higher education. You are eligible to apply if you have completed or will complete during spring 2020 one of the following degrees: 1. Finnish matriculation examination 2. International Baccalaureate degree (IB) 3. European Baccalaureate degree (EB) 4. Deutsches Internationales Abitur degree (DIA) or Reifeprüfung degree (RP) in Finland 5. *A degree or qualification completed outside Finland that in the awarding country gives eligibility for university studies* 6. A Finnish vocational upper secondary qualification, further vocational qualification or specialist vocational qualification as set in the Vocational Education Act (531/2017) 7. Advanced International Certificate of Education degree (AICE) in Finland In your case, I guess the most likely option would be number 5. This means that you have to make sure that your specific vocational degree qualifies you to apply. *What semester do you start if admitted to study business (at a university or university of applied sciences)* → If admitted you will start your studies on a Bachelor level with the first year studies. → A vocational degree does not qualify you to apply directly to a Master's degree I hope this clarifies things at least a bit. I know this information is a bit complicated, but the problem is that the rules depend quite a bit on your prior background and educational level.
@houssam2076
4 жыл бұрын
@@RoadtoFinnish thank you Oliver, this was very helpful!
@prathamagarwaal
Жыл бұрын
Business school is masters?
@RoyRissanen
4 жыл бұрын
.. off-topic but wondering if you did a video regarding entrance requirements for different programs when applying.?
@RoadtoFinnish
4 жыл бұрын
Right, this I haven't done yet because they differ so much between different programmes. I can look into this but it would most likely take a dozen different videos just for Aalto University alone. Alternatively I could look into the more general requirements and see if there's anything there. However, this will most likely have to wait until the end of the year when programme specific requirements are updated.
@renyroy6804
2 жыл бұрын
Bsc in econ... Can u please suggest some fast job seeking Minors to choose suchas finance or MIS or ITP) to specialize while studying econ at ALTO
@dez1870
2 жыл бұрын
Man kinda hard to understand you maybe buissness is not for me 😢
@rwe52496
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I am curious about taking some business classes but I wasn’t sure what to expect.
@jayj6112
4 жыл бұрын
Like ur accent.
@RoadtoFinnish
4 жыл бұрын
:D thanks
@iemwill9429
3 жыл бұрын
what brand is your watch? let me know
@RoadtoFinnish
3 жыл бұрын
Its called Aarni. Its a Finnish brand selling watches and sun glasses made out of Finnish wood. If you are interested in their products, you can use my discount code (oliver10) for 10% off your purchase: aarniwood.com/?
@bero.118
4 жыл бұрын
Could you make a similar video for the medical school, please?!
@RoadtoFinnish
4 жыл бұрын
Oh that would be cool :D. However, not having went to medical school, I don't dare say anything about it myself. I could try to find a graduate or a near-grad who would share their experience, but this will most likely have to wait until the end of the current Covid-19 crisis.
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