Naruto out here negotiating with terrorists while Luffy overthrows tyrannical rulers bc one of their peasants gave him half of a day old tuna sandwich and called the bad guy a big-ugly-meanie-head. Ichigo in the background calling an ambulance for when he shows up and handles business.
@DawnStar-gk6pq
2 ай бұрын
Naruto didn't do that with Madara but he did that to Obito because he believed he could be redeemed but with Ishiki/Jigen he needed to be taken out and Naruto wasn't going to convince him to stop.
@Victorrevvs
2 ай бұрын
@@DawnStar-gk6pqyea ppl really don’t seem to understand Naruto as a character and they also forget every villain he talk no jutsu’d he beat they ass first
@jayjohnson8084
3 ай бұрын
Luffy- im a ask you one time and one time only
@RealRonII
3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lightningjadejavier
3 ай бұрын
Wait when has he said that??? The times I've seen luffy fight a villain he's immediately gon jump to the main fight
@michaeldavis6993
3 ай бұрын
Usually he punches you first then asks questions afterwards
@its_Kiminari
3 ай бұрын
@@michaeldavis6993yeah and loses Naruto destroyed the paths on pain no talk then made Nagato revive the people in the village
@isaiahneal6715
3 ай бұрын
So are we not gonna talk about robin
@Kuz3nB0wl
3 ай бұрын
Luffy: "you can be a good person if you want after I beat your ass"
@lightningjadejavier
3 ай бұрын
Literally the talk with bege in wci.
@kristopherwillis8075
2 ай бұрын
Facts 😂
@ellingtonf1097
2 ай бұрын
To quote Vegito: "BE PERFECT IN HEEEEEEEELLLL!!"
@stevetherush1193
2 ай бұрын
That's Naruto too😂😂😂
@infinity_sh4816
2 ай бұрын
lmao fr
@Insomniac11th
3 ай бұрын
Ichigo on episode one stomped someone head so hard into the concrete for messing with a flower for the memorial of a girl who died there
@theonetruefusion8533
2 ай бұрын
calling a chapter an episode is certainly interesting?
@ssjbevegeta3008
2 ай бұрын
B*tch, you forgot about the anime@@theonetruefusion8533
@YouryCh.
2 ай бұрын
The 1st episode/chapter if i'm not wrong
@gustavosauro1882
3 ай бұрын
Pain killed Jiraya, destroyed Konoha, killing thousands of people in the process, including Kakashi and Naruto at end was still like "Ay bro there's no need to continue this cycle of hate, come here bro gimme a hug". Meanwhile Luffy's enemies are like "Who are you? Why are you doing this? You come to my island and destroy my entire operation of years in a day! WHAT DID I DO TO YOU?!?!"
@wnuZeL
3 ай бұрын
Naruto said he hated him and wanted to kill him🤔
@TOA6
3 ай бұрын
Attacked people who gave him food
@kingpizza1854
3 ай бұрын
@@wnuZeLi don't think that helps his case i wouldn't be talk no Justus the person that killed my mentor before he can get a girl
@imaginaryking5276
3 ай бұрын
People be forgetting that pain wouldn’t have revived the people he killed if Naruto didn’t talk to him
@nataliawashington872
3 ай бұрын
And “killed” his girl in front of him
@euro.steppp
3 ай бұрын
The thing about Luffy is that he doesn't finish off his opponents, he destroys and completely obliterates their dreams, and to a pirate, that's worse than death.
@stickthelanding4785
3 ай бұрын
The only time he really “killed” and opponent was with Kaido and it was only because he was to strong to contain. If Kaido was just imprisoned he definitely would have broken out.
@Reesemike
3 ай бұрын
And honestly idk what bro is talking about that definitely isn’t worse than death because at least if I’m alive I can try and accomplish my dreams again if I’m dead that’s it bro is literally doesn’t know what he’s talking about
@amari7782
3 ай бұрын
@@Reesemikeit’s the point of if your dream is crushed ( depending on what it is) it may be something borderline unrecoverable. It’s basically the logic of when left without the thing you worked so hard to get what do u do now?
@javi_fc
2 ай бұрын
@@Reesemikeyou clearly havent seen one piece cause most of the people he beats have no way of accomplishing what they wanted to after he beats them.
@Reesemike
2 ай бұрын
@@javi_fc Enel still accomplished his dreams. Crocodile is still on the path to accomplishing his dreams. Most of the CP9 members went on to live happy lives, and Lucci and Kaku even got a promotion. Honestly, most of the villains Luffy beats end up just fine afterwards, or at least later on down the line. In fact, Luffy hasn’t crushed anyone’s dreams; he either put them on a different path or they continue what they were doing.
@z.e.d4037
3 ай бұрын
People legit would forget the part of the ulquiorra fight where he said he would give him an arm and leg to make it fair, like be fr. Naruto only does he's talk after hes finished putting up the fight, he didn't just let Pain continue attacking the village before he came to talk to him, he was locked in a battle of wills with Obito, obviously he would give him a talk to finish obito off, he literally blew of his and Sasuke's arms before he gave him a talk like stop saying "oh Naruto only does it when he cant finish a fight", no he dosent, he fights first, talks later.
@MegaBosskill
3 ай бұрын
Exactly Naruto literally beats you down first.
@imaginaryking5276
3 ай бұрын
I lose faith in humanity each time I see people saying Naruto only talks and doesn’t fight
@Nika-potter
3 ай бұрын
Cap, he ran the 1 v1 with ulquiorra and was pissed his hollow mode interferred. Not cos of some let me change his mind type vibe
@imaginaryking5276
3 ай бұрын
@@Nika-potter personally I ain’t cutting my arm and my leg just cause evil me did the same to my enemy But I can try to talk to my enemy if can relate to him and I’ve already subdued him
@kannan07
3 ай бұрын
Bro litterally missed the point, he did that because he didn't want to associate with zangetsu in anyways because he didn't realise that zangetsu was a part of him
@yukotrey9422
3 ай бұрын
Y’all really just missing the point of what kishimoto cooked up. The cycle of hatred will always keep going from time beginning and for thousands of years after. Since the formation of villages what like 3 generations ago since the beginning of the series the ninja world was already 3 world wars deep. This constant and unnecessary violence will keep happening until someone steps up and says “ no i wouldn’t spin for my boi for worthless revenge and keep this going” Naruto broke it by finding a peaceful route instead of bloodshed. Every single villain of Naruto was apart of this cycle and if Naruto just killed them the cycle would have just keep going and going.
@narutoworld4372
3 ай бұрын
Thank you that’s what I’m saying
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
That, and Naruto beats their ass BEFORE talking to them.
@yourcommonrainfrog
3 ай бұрын
Bro yapping all that to just say that "no fight life good" and that cycle shit bro hate is a human emotion no one can stop that shit.
@yukotrey9422
3 ай бұрын
@@yourcommonrainfrog besides the fact it’s a shonen and Naruto ALWAYS fights? Besides even though it’s a human emotion you have free will and can decide to not partake in it. You are not forced to be a slave of your emotions and most people would call you weak for being one
@yourcommonrainfrog
3 ай бұрын
@@yukotrey9422 bro you a sage or something because what you saying is good for real life but for shonen manga fight, war, death, revenge, anger power ups, emotional death scene and more are needed to make a good or a good selling manga so what I was saying is you can't just expect to turn a manga like Naruto which started ass a whole death filled manga and turn it into a happy no death all good no war show because then it won't sell.
@queso849
3 ай бұрын
I like how some of the people Luffy beats also become his allies during sometime in the story. Part 1 Naruto beat Garra without talking and later on took inspiration from him and changed then Shippuden happened and that was no longer an option.
@MegaBosskill
3 ай бұрын
Because ppl forget before talk no jutsu he had catch these hands no jutsu
@imaginaryking5276
3 ай бұрын
Naruto did talk to Garra after head butting him, what are you on about
@UtoWasHere
3 ай бұрын
@@imaginaryking5276the fight was over
@IdkIdk-vm4dm
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo stands on business fr. Bro feels like Number 1. Will never forget his flashback with Chad when he called an ambulance for the people he was about to beat
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo spares people 95% of the time… Even if its for a ridiculous reason, like those psychopathic and sociopath quincies who were killing for no reason. Even when it was those low level soul reapers who were just scouting or supporting.
@nathanbrownlee9276
2 ай бұрын
Well in Ichigo’s case the bad guys are soul eating monsters and magic nazis. A little hard to sit down and chat in that kind of situation.
@rohanshah7559
2 ай бұрын
Tbh in ichigo’s case, HE was the bad guy both times. Both yhwach and Aizen were probably right but ichigo fought them cuz he had a chill life under the status quo
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
@@rohanshah7559Nah both went about it the wrong way.
@rohanshah7559
2 ай бұрын
@gtvn2775 yeah they def didn’t have a good methodology, but that doesn’t make ichigo a good guy. Ichigo didn’t give a shit about how the status quo was horrible and predatory, he just wanted him and his friends to be chilling. Didn’t matter if the whole world was burning down around them or people were getting abused elsewhere
@RandomGuy-ci9nt
Ай бұрын
@rohanshah7559 bro he doesn't even know bruh he's new to all this shit
@samydc310
2 ай бұрын
If Naruto didn't talk to pain we would've lost the konoha village He talked to zabusa an gave us a good moment of a mindless tool becoming human again Naruto convinced obito to fight back and we ended up with Kakashi of the sharingan full power Naruto believes in people and second chances, in a world of war and destruction were Ninjas were given none of that
@AmericanIlluminati
3 ай бұрын
🗣️ONE MORE THING!!! 😂 It’s 1,000x cooler that Naruto’s mentality is, “I’m gonna beat some MF sense into you” & usually does. Naruto is fr a black parent.
@pubberhubber3462
3 ай бұрын
Mob psycho 100: 👁️👄👁️
@animoments8969
3 ай бұрын
Yeah mobs way worse than Naruto in that regard becsuse Narutos atleast killed people but Mobs such a well written character that anyone who would complain about that stuff is just brain dead.
@lucifermagne7458
3 ай бұрын
Mob Psycho does this well. Naruto, it's just annoying.
@Monkeytheluffy56
3 ай бұрын
@@lucifermagne7458yeah, mob had to become a hero, because he was the strongest. While Naruto wanted to become strong so he can be a hero. Entire Naruto anime is about Naruto trying to become a hero.
@lucifermagne7458
3 ай бұрын
@@Monkeytheluffy56 honestly neither is bad, it's just something about Naruto makes me despise how good he is, but Mob Psycho makes me love how good he is. I really don't know what it is
@Monkeytheluffy56
3 ай бұрын
@@lucifermagne7458 ever heard about "trying too hard to be a goody 2 shoes"? Naruto is exactly that.
@AmericanIlluminati
3 ай бұрын
So, we really going to act like Ichigo really didn’t end up acting like he was friends with: Uryu, Renji, Kenpachi, Byakuya, Grimmjow, and Ulqiorra mid-fight? Just to name a few. White took over & beat the breaks off Byakuya and Ulqiorra, then Ichigo gonna talk about some, “My bad fam, you good? We were having fun. I didn’t mean for him to ruin that.” Not that this is bad, because it show only Naruto & Ichigo inherited Goku’s will. Because, with every fight, Goku was steady trying to make friends with his enemies. From Vegeta to Buu.
@imtrying2717
3 ай бұрын
The only ones I give you are ulquirroa. Ichigos not stupid the soul society or at least the ones you mentioned aren’t evil he was trying to stop an organization that protects the balance from killing his friend. He definitely would’ve killed kenpachi had no one came to save him you forget they both damn near died in that fight and they both got saved by their own people. Also ichigo is trying to save rukia killing her brother ain’t gonna make her too happy losing the only family she’s got. 1 more thing none of the people you mentioned have committed mass genocide(at least that we seen) and try to destroy his way of life. Aizen, Ginjo and ywach the MAIN villains Ichigo definitely was gonna kill hell 2 of them he does the 3rd one is basically immortal.
@Honest_Mids_Masher
2 ай бұрын
What reason did Ichigo have to kill outside of Ulqiora? And in he case of Ulqiora he was just desperate to push away the fact that his hollow side took over to where he was trying to handicap himself to remove the idea that it happened. With Byakuya once again Ichigo had no reason to kill him and we learn later on that Ichigo enjoys fighting.
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo spares more than naruto though. Naruto actively tried to kill plenty of people; it would always be thrown aside though due to some type of healing or sacrifice.
@imtrying2717
2 ай бұрын
@@gtvn2775 I’m talking main villain you know someone who is a genocidal maniac? Outside of orochimaru I don’t remember one major villain Naruto killed or was trying to kill during shippudens run. Pain, Obito, sauske, orochimaru and kabuto all got passes eventually or during that time. Especially pain he deserved death point blank period. Pain and ywach did something similar and ichigo crashed out and would have killed ywach if he could have. Naruto’s mentor got killed, the village destroyed with who knows how many dead, hinata got bodied in front of him the nicest person in all of Naruto btw, kakashi and tsunade got put on there asses, not to mention pain is a terrorist so who knows how many other people he’s killed and was apart of the same organization that damn near killed and disrespected gaara and he wants to talk? Fuck outta here with that there’s revenge and then there’s justice I’m not sure Naruto knows the difference. Kishimoto wanted Naruto to be too much like goku and it shows in their stupidity🤦♂️🤷♂️
@djspice1232
2 ай бұрын
@@imtrying2717 you lack reading comprehension i see He never forgave Nagato he made that clear and he knew if he slayed him out of hatred he's no better than him He only talked to obito to het him to let his guard down do him and his teammates can put him down
@fireshadow6632
2 ай бұрын
While I do agree that there are some villains that are irredeemable, not all of them are completely bad. Some of them were once good people that were changed due to life circumstances. And it's not like Naruto has been able to change the path of every villain in the show. Out of the ten members of the Akatsuki, Naruto only changed three of them (Pain, Konan, and Obito). And even with Pain's invasion of the Leaf village, it's not like Naruto didn't want to get revenge on Pain for killing Jiraiya, destroying his village, and harming his friends. The only reason he didn't do it was because he didn't want to disappoint Jiraiya and contribute to the cycle of hatred that already made their world as bad as it was. So, it's not as if Naruto is completely the messiah that everyone makes him out to be.
@baz9910
3 ай бұрын
I think the difference is also in the villains since in Naruto the villains are usually misguided people who Naruto can see himself in like pain whereas one piece and bleach have villains like doflamingo and aizen who just want chaos
@akshitjain5558
3 ай бұрын
The hell do you mean Luffy deals with his enemies? He legit just beats them up and half the time leaves it at that. If he had the balls to end Gecko Moria FOR GOOD, Moria wouldn't be part of marine Ford and maybe the fight would have been a little more in Luffy's favor. There's also that swamp guy who's gonna cause some big problems soon. He also left Eneru alive, who knows how that's gonna come back to bite his ass
@Thembeka_Tee
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo can’t talk it out with an actual evil soul, Quincy Hitler and Aizen who is covered in mystery as a person
@newguy335
3 ай бұрын
I would like to point out that if Naruto DIDN'T talk to some of his enemies, we'd lost a lot more characters, and it would be similar to Jujutsu Kaisen with their lack of characters.
@ajayimoses2495
3 ай бұрын
😂 Kakuzu has something to say about this
@cyruahawkins5289
3 ай бұрын
Naruto : *Talk no Jutsu* Bleach : *Ominous staredown before overpowering them.* Luffy : “I don’t care how strong you are. Who you got with you. What powers you got. Who your god is. It’s on sight.” *Manifests Kendrick levels of hate*
@MahD.iaco69
2 ай бұрын
Kaido: talks about his morals and dreams Luffy:shut up I'll kick your ass
@HugeFrigginGuy
3 ай бұрын
*Girl cries due to the tragedy of her circumstances* Luffy: "...And I took that personally."
@georgecactusultimate848
2 ай бұрын
Naruto never tried talking things through with Madara or Kaguya, Naruto doesn’t think that anyone is pure evil so he tries his best to bring them towards the light, if that doesn’t work that it’s all hands.
@Blaze4589-s2s
2 ай бұрын
I think Naruto does this coz he sees himself in them.He feels he would’ve been like them if he hadn’t had good ppl to save him like his sensei.He knows the villains went through trauma like him that’s why he always uses talk no jutsu
@nikamoreillus661
2 ай бұрын
Yall dont understand naruto or the messeage hes tryna display. First off naruto beats his enemies before talking to them, so your getting a good fight no matter what, and the actual pure evil characters of the show naruto doesnt even talk to them like madara, kakazu, kabuto and the ototsuskis. Second off unlike one piece and bleach, lots of naruto villains arent purely evil does this make their actions justified? No which is why everyone naruto talk no jutsu's besides sasuke and gaara die and get their asses beat by naruto Third, luffy and ichigo being better protagonists then naruto because naruto is accurately displaying one of the main themes/messages of the show is wild, if you gonna slander a character find something thats actually right then to just take something you personally dont like, because this feels like preference rather then an actual fact.
@TheOneWhoSouls1405
2 ай бұрын
You are based my guy.
@nikamoreillus661
2 ай бұрын
@@TheOneWhoSouls1405 damn
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
They are picky, Ichigo legit spares and makes companions with the craziest of people. Plus, Ichigo legit did not kill any of the quincies despite them massacring soul reapers with no remorse multiple times. Naruto was out for blood when pain did that though (although Pain told his story which made Naruto feel bad for him).
@nikamoreillus661
2 ай бұрын
@@gtvn2775 fr naruto's hatred for pain was lowkey something I thought i would never hear from him.
@animezparadisez69
2 ай бұрын
Kinda crazy because Naruto only negotiated with people he knew would actually change. And he did kill people who had it coming. Some people genuinely just don't read the manga to understand that Naruto has a specific ideology. But what can we say really.
@LLGTMT
3 ай бұрын
Luffy is the opposite of talk no jutsu, the man consistently punches villains in they mouth mid monologue. Hell homie tried to kill his first mate just because he thought he killed people who gave him food and drink a single time, wasn't even listening to the explanation... Naruto is like look Sasuke, I know you've tried to kill me like 20 times and Sakura like 3 times and are planning the destruction of my entire homeland and the deaths of ALL of my friends and loved ones... But we need to talk for real my boy. And Ichigo just beats they ass and tell them they are weak and if that fails he gets a new ancestor and genetic boost and says "Nah, I'd Win..." and proceeds to curb stomp them.
@Bangaudaala
2 ай бұрын
Lets take in account that Naruto is always the winner in those situations, he can AFFORD to negotiate, if it doesnt work out? He goes for the kill Hes not lame for trying
@animoments8969
3 ай бұрын
People just chhose things what they want ignore other things. What about the times naruto didnt give them a chance or went beserk on them? What about all the criminals Luffy freed from impel down? Luffy even if a genocidal maniac feeds him, he will defend him against his enemies. People onky remmember what they want to remmember.
@gameinsane4718
3 ай бұрын
Impel Down mostly happened around Luffy. Buggy and Galdino both started following Luffy bc he was manhandling the monsters, then Ivankov showed up and was the one who convinced Luffy to let them release crocodile to make getting back out easier and basically made the decision for Luffy.
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
@@gameinsane4718I was agreeing until you said someone MADE the decision for Luffy, which isn't true. He gave the suggestion.
@gameinsane4718
3 ай бұрын
@@thewiseyounglad2699 Ivankov literally had to convince Luffy that he’d be an asset and also that he’d personally keep Croc under control via his secret. Luffy at best went along with freeing Croc. From my perspective Iva only went through the effort to convince Luffy to make sure Luffy wouldn’t just start throwing hands if they just up and freed him
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
@@gameinsane4718 That's what I said.
@djspice1232
2 ай бұрын
@@gameinsane4718 yet crocodile is a free man
@Tumbercube
2 ай бұрын
As a naruto fan he’s right
@sdsartor1942
2 ай бұрын
People really need to relisten to pain’s speech about war before claiming that naruto is about good guys vs bad guys. It’s literally multiple people with similar goals of peace finding their own solutions to said peace.
@Re-Bourne
3 ай бұрын
He only talked to a harmless nagato that was dying and obito who he related to and realize obito was just hurt and manipulated by madara people act like he talked to every single villain like they were a good guy 💀
@morgothbauglir203
2 ай бұрын
People be missing the point of the series and what is happening in it and will think they are smart
@God_Koku
2 ай бұрын
As soon as I see Naruto starts taking a slight L I'm already ready for an Infinite Tsukuyomi's worth of flashbacks and yapping 💀 Btw Infinite Tsukuyomi lasted like 4-5 months 💀 🙏
@Realfljit
3 ай бұрын
Y’all acting like my man hasn’t been a pacifist since the start of the show but don’t get it twisted he’ll beat ur ass then yall can talk after
@Reesemike
3 ай бұрын
Luffy won’t really stop the bad guys he like beats them up and leaves he doesn’t really stop them from repeat offending it’s either someone comes and catches them or they run away
@NinebalancedGuy
2 ай бұрын
I Love Luffy and Ichigo, but everybody have a different mission, luffy's a pirate, all about freedom whether you are bad or good don't get in this way😂, Ichigo just want to chill with his family and friends, but if you mess with his family and friends you're done😂 Naruto has the hardest mission, his the child of prophecy, The dude is called Naruto Jesus for a reason😂, not for powers only, but he's here to end the generational hate, which I know I couldnt do I'm going to be just like Luffy and Ichigo 😂 beat anyone who is hating on me, Naruto kind heart is beyond these two, that's why everybody who watches Naruto say they wouldn't even blame him, if you became a villain, but he has the heart forgiveness, literally anime Jesus 😂.
@RealRonII
2 ай бұрын
I fw the response Respect 😂
@danielnsaka2982
2 ай бұрын
Just want to point out that he always uses talk no jutsu only after he's beaten the crap out of you physically Gaara Sasuke Neji Obito Pain All those fights have one thing in common. He talked to them and led them to redemption after beating them in a fight. Also, he knows who's worth saving and who isn't Did he ever use talk no jutsu on Madara, Ishiki or Kaguya? No Plus it's not like he forgives those he's used talk no jutsu on. They still have to face the consequences of their actions. For those of you who still don't get it, read the dialogue between him and kurama after they used baryon mode.
@thetele8646
2 ай бұрын
The conversation between Naruto and Kurama after the bayron mode time limit was up, doesn't seem like much, if anything it shows that Naruto forgave or holds no grudge towards Kurama for killing his parents and making his life hell. He says he doesn't forgive Nagato, yet acts so friendly with him when he was reanimated and calls him his disciple brother, when Obito dissed him, Naruto got mad on his behalf, similarly with Obito.
@Chillingwind-yd2uv
2 ай бұрын
Look I’m no anime expert but, I think this take about the 3 is off. Each of these characters circumstances are different. To be exact both luffy and ichigo backgrounds are vastly different than Naruto’s which lead to a different upbringing and mindset. Naruto’s desire to help others more or less comes from his own abandonment, insecurities, and wants to be accepted. Gaara was just like him, Obito had nothing just like he did as a kid, madara was abandoned and ostracized by his clan like Naruto by his village, nagato lost his best friend just like Naruto, and sasuke was the first bond he truly had he didn’t want to lose. Not to mention he had no family like Naruto. The problem is every person he uses talk no jutsu on he can relate to in some way. Which cause his abandonment issues to flare up and try to help them the way he wanted to be helped. Yea it’s just words but, to Naruto those words as a lonely kid filled with doubt, loneliness and despair might have been as good as a blood oath I’m just saying
@vollied4865
2 ай бұрын
Ive always felt Ichigo was a perfect balance between the 2. Luffy beats ass first asks questions later. Naruto yaps nonstop for days then gives out the hands. Ichigo will communicate if the opprtunity arises but with throw hands and beat you into submission all while understanding you from trading blows. I like Ichigo the most personal but all 3 have strengths and weaknesses *cough ichigos depression cough
@TheOneWhoSouls1405
2 ай бұрын
Naruto fights first then uses talk no jutsu... what are you talking about?
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo legit was sparing stone cold killers (the quincies). Naruto only spared those we shared their stories to him.
@huntertezz
2 ай бұрын
@@gtvn2775don't think Ichigo spared any quincy. Maybe Candice.
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
@@huntertezz Then why he ain’t instant kill those 4 girl quinces when he showed up with his new swords? He even told one of them to dodge his attack😂 Ichigo legit knows what they did to soul society, plus they weren’t willing to be reasoned with clearly.
@huntertezz
2 ай бұрын
@@gtvn2775 Don't think he could instant kill in base form without using any big moves. The femritters are actually competent. But he did try not to kill Candice so I will gove you that. Also he doesn't know what they did asside from beat up Kenpachi and they did end up being reasoned with in the end.
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND
2 ай бұрын
Horrendous take. Naruto whoops ass then has his opponent turn good. He's breaking bad them villains and getting the pure crystal out of them.
@its_Kiminari
3 ай бұрын
Yall haven’t watched the show or sum, fixed Kiba and neji jawline in part one, beat garra part one, part 2 he ended kakazu, destroyed pain I mean he destroyed all the paths of pain, he talked Nagato the main body into reviving the village which was a way better situation, then he was going hard on fighting with Madara when in so6p which Naruto would have won if black zetsu ain’t get Kaguya who still lost to Naruto and Sasuke and Naruto never tried to talk no jutsu her, then in the last movie Naruto one shotted toneri in base with a punch for messing with Hinata, put straight hands on momoshiki and in the manga he soloed him with only 50 percent of his power and momoshiki in based was a universal threat he litteraly created a parallel universe from power and the one Naruto whooped was fused, let’s not also forget he Mike tysonnd Isshiki with no talk even hit the same combo he hit on Sasuke in part one on him and this was for trying to take over Kaguya and destroying the world again. So nah yall just don’t watch the show for what it is, it has been straight hands no talk even in part 1
@wnuZeL
3 ай бұрын
Zoro & Law were serial killers before clicking up with Luffy Ichigo teamed up with Aizen (no explanation needed) Naruto’s rogues are DEAD except Orochimaru
@kingpizza1854
3 ай бұрын
Zoro and law wasn't really truly against luffy and luffy a pirate just bcz there killers doesn't mean nothing he says multiple times he is not a hero. Also zoro a bounty hunter. Ichigo was literally fighting a god and they were losing heavily he basically had no choice. Naruto literally let the serial killer room free who experimented on children and terrorists with brother issues and tried to hash it out with a person who killed his mentor and probably thousands for no reason.
@gameinsane4718
3 ай бұрын
Luffy saved Zoro’s life after revealing his honor was going to be betrayed by Helmeppo and Zoro joined Luffy almost unquestioningly. Law got caught up in Luffy’s shenanigans on Sabaody and minus swapping Sanji, Nami, Chopper and Franks’s bodies around never actually fought the strawhats on Punk Hazard before teaming up with them. Aizen couldn’t be killed and Ywhach was gonna tear apart the foundation of reality of left unchecked.
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
@@kingpizza1854Orochimarut is under heavy watch(and is only allowed to live because he is that world's vegapunk), while the rest of his opps are dead. Plus, he only talks to you after beating your ass.
@kingpizza1854
3 ай бұрын
@@thewiseyounglad2699 so bcz he smart and under watch we can let him get away with experimenting on children killing the hokage and actively attacking the ninetails causing him to crash out and also causing a person to become a traitor and a threat where later on he attacks the kage summit😑
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
@kingpizza1854 Yes. Same as how Robin killer a shit tone of people but was kept around cuz "she said so"(which isn't even practical). How about the fact that Ceasar was never put down, and even joined up with the StrawHats for a bit to help even though he did what Orochimaru did. In fact, to be fair to you, give me the name of a battle shounen that doesn't kill off a super criminal because they are useful😑
@starhammer5247
2 ай бұрын
I think Naruto is getting hate because the writing is probably the worst compared to the other two. If you think about it, the writing really isn't anything spectacular and there are quite a few holes, redundant characters, and forgotten characters.
@TheOneWhoSouls1405
2 ай бұрын
Mind pointing out a few of those flaws?
@starhammer5247
2 ай бұрын
@@TheOneWhoSouls1405 The writing of the female characters, forgetting some characters exist, the constant bending over backwards to justify trying to save Sasuke, redeeming people who really shouldn't be redeemed, going completely off-script of what was planned for Sakura and forcing her to be a healer just to create more parallels with Kakashi's team and no other reason, not because it would add to her character or because it would make things interesting but just to create parallels and nothing else, and there's a lot more than that. Comparing Naruto to Gintama would make these flaws even easier to see.
@TheOneWhoSouls1405
2 ай бұрын
@@starhammer5247 You haven't actually proven why the writing for the females is bad, this is a baseless claim. Most of those characters already had completed character arcs. Not only that, but some weren't even meant to be in Shippuden. Rock Lee for example, was meant to die in the final arc of og. But the editor forced him to keep him alive. What bending over backwards does kishimoto do? Again, a baseless claim. Sakura was training to be a healer before we ever saw the kakashi flashback. Not only that, but sakura became a healer because to use healing ninjutsu you need incredible chakra control, something that sakura was said to have since the beginning of og.
@Caleb_Amamiya
2 ай бұрын
Doesn't Naruto beat the shit out of them first?
@enumaelish9193
3 ай бұрын
Naruto told the guy who killed his parents, Neji and half of Sasuke's clan particularly the babies and children, that he was a cool guy. The guy responsible for starting Ninja World War 4 and launching two tailed beast bombs into populated vilages was cool because once upon a time, he wanted to be Hokage too. Obito was an evil, selfish man and didn't deserve redemption, the suffering he caused because Rin died while people like Kakashi were still trying to put good into the world is disgusting.
@Magic.God.Othinus
3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Being real for a second, Rin would hate Obito for everything he did.
@kronodex6172
3 ай бұрын
Obviously Naruto wasn't referring to his horrible actions when calling him the coolest guy. What Obito did was horrible, but that doesn't mean Naruto can't empathise with who Obito used to be. Naruto, in that moment, decided to see the best in Obito, because he knew that deep within Obito was ultimately another victim of the cruel shinobi system. His sins are many, but Naruto wouldn't be Naruto if he wasn't capable of looking past those. Obito, the mass murderer wasn't who Naruto called the coolest guy, it was the young Obito that embodied the will of fire perfectly by sacrificing himself and his eye for the sake of his friends, just like how he eventually sacrificed himself one last time to help team 7 beat Kaguya.
@enumaelish9193
3 ай бұрын
@kronodex6172 Obito was Obito the mass murderer longer than he was regular Obito. Nobody brainwashed him to take those actions. He did them of his own volition. If I went around and became a terrorist there is no longer any "me as not a terrorist" in existence, my actions and choices have made me a different person who should be held accountable for my actions. The man killed Ino, Shikamaru and Choji's fathers, everybody that died during the Nine Tails' invasion as well as the 40000 people who died on the first day of the 4th Great Ninja War alone are on his head. Bar none he has the highest kill count in ninja history, bad people exist in this world and it isn't anybody's job to empathize with them especially when they display such callous disregard for human life to further their own agendas. If you saw a guy who killed 40k people on the news you wouldn't start asking yourself what his sad backstory was. All this because Rin died by that logic Kakashi should be the most evil person in the show due to the number of people he has lost.
@kronodex6172
3 ай бұрын
@enumaelish9193 Keep in mind that you're applying real life logic to a world where death is commonplace and killing is expected of kids as young as eight. And also, what's wrong with Naruto not dismissing the fact Obito used to be a good person? Do bad acts performed after a good deed make the good deeds any less valid? I'm also not saying that the inverse is true and that Obito having been good once makes his crimes excusable, just that Naruto respecting Obito for once having shared and strived towards the same dream is not horrible. Empathy can still be applied to bad people, and the whole theme of Naruto is to break the cycle of hatred; he literally made it his 'job' to follow Jiraiya's ideals, so its a little redundant to argue otherwise. Also, it's not like Naruto is naively going around giving everyone second chances, you don't see him trying the same thing with Kakuzu, Madara, or even Kaguya- people who he knew were without a doubt set in their ways and could not be convinced otherwise. The only reason he reached out to Obito is because he picked up on the fact that Obito was conflicted deep within, and his empathy allowed him to see Obito for who he was entirely, both the bad and the good.
@enumaelish9193
3 ай бұрын
@kronodex6172 Hey. You know which other world has plenty of death and child soldiers? The real world. Fiction is based on real-world logic with fantastical elements thrown in. It's how we know Orochimaru is evil for experimenting on kids without anybody having to spell it out. A bad deed can make a good deed less valuable. If I'm nice to somebody with the intention of getting closer to them so I can break into their home and rob them, it tarnishes the good deed. Let's not even go into the fact that Obito's only "good deeds" while on screen were being a regular ninja in his backstory and then putting in some effort to undo the messed up situation he created before dying from having the Ten Tails removed anyway. All those people you mentioned Naruto not giving a chance are objectively less evil than Obito. Kakuzu? He was a mercenary for money. He was a ninja doing his job just on the opposite side from the protagonist. Kaguya? She was driven insane by the Tailed Beast inside her. Madara thought he was actively making the world better. Mr. Conflicted has a higher kill count than all of them put together and no sensible reason for it. At any point he could have picked one of the multiple ressurection methods in the story: Edo Tensei, Rinne Rebirth or Zetsu clone and brought Rin back but he was such a hateful man that he wanted people to suffer. The man killed Naruto's parents, was willing to kill a baby, killed Iruka's parents, was the cause of the village hating Naruto for being a Jinchuriki, killed part of Sasuke's clan, tried to kill Kakashi, killed Shikamaru's dad, bombed two villages, killed Ino's dad, started Ninja World War 4, was responsible for the deaths of 40k ninjas and led Sasuke down the path of evil so he could use him as a tool because he was "conflicted". He has the high score for evil in the entire Naruto franchise. He was a "good guy" at 14 and spent the remainder of his life as the worst criminal in ninja history, then he tried to "atone" for a few minutes after his death was already certain. Kishimoto can put a gun to my head, and I would still disagree that Obito deserved anything more than a Rasenshuriken to the neck.
@Salman.khan786
2 ай бұрын
Honestly bro I 100% agree with this. Imagine in real life. Trying to Talk No Jutsu Hitter or Genghis Khan. It’s just such an ignorant thought process. Kishi is always trying to make us wear rose colored glasses.
@isaacikporere3622
3 ай бұрын
Most anime protagonist wants to protect people around them Ichigo is just a chess piece used to clean up trash he has no impact in the varse to me ichida could have been a better main character than him What about the people soul society treat unfairly they just died without justice because ichigo got involved All he doesn't run around with his big sword and fight Even aizen said he is fighting in a battle that doesn't consign him a verse where a soul can bleed and die how can it ever make sense Trash will always be trash no matter the hype
@RealRonII
3 ай бұрын
Woah slow that hate all the way down. Who died unfairly without Justice because of Ichigo???
@imtrying2717
3 ай бұрын
@@RealRonIIhe mad in his feelings😂😂😂. People forget ichigo has a life to live in the HUMAN world. We’ve seen multiple times what happens in karakura town when they assign a soul reaper not named ichigo. Buddy was tripping
@Vida-jj4on
3 ай бұрын
Ichigo did have an impact😂 after his run-in with the Soul Society in SS arc he changed the minds of a lot of shnaigami in their way of thinking, including Yamamoto. which was essential for him getting his soul reaper powers back in Fullbringer (Best arc in Bleach besides SS arc and TYBW arc.) as Yamamoto was the one who gave the order to help get Ichigo back his soul reaper powers. Without Ichigo, having changed the mindset of yama, he would never have gotten back his Soul Reaper powers😂 Saying Ichigo has no impact in his show is crazy lmao. Though im not willing to go into a full-blown argument, Ichigo does have an impact. It's just more subtle. he does have an impact in bleach quite a bit to say he doesn't is cap.
@SamuelRondreigz4720
3 ай бұрын
All of this is negated with how Ichigo changed the perspectives of all the captains minus Mayuri, how Yhwach was gonna destroy the Bleach verse without Ichigo, nobody on the Soul Society died because of Ichigo when did that happened? Yama said to give Ichigo his powers back, pre SS Yama is not doing that. By befriending people in the Soul Society their problems become his because Ichigo, as he stated himself, is a guardian to those he cherishes. Aizen wouldn’t understand because Aizen isn’t a human and wasn’t raised as one. Respectfully, this is an example of tell me you haven’t actually watched x series without telling me you haven’t watched x series.
@imtrying2717
3 ай бұрын
@@SamuelRondreigz4720 you talking to the me? Because it’s sounds like we agree?
@commonviewer2488
3 ай бұрын
Funny thing about that, neither Ichigo nor Luffy want to be heroes. They just get called that because Ichigo won't let a bad thing happen in front of him, Luffy wants everyone to be free to follow their dreams, and they both will go to hell and back to save a friend.
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
Even Naruto didn't want to be a hero until the Pain arc. Even then, he'll beat your ass before serenading you to the good side.
@aozorahaou2643
3 ай бұрын
Uhm, we're gonna forget when Kakashi showed them the Memorial Stone he said he wanted to be a hero?@thewiseyounglad2699
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
@@aozorahaou2643 Yes.
@Monkeytheluffy56
3 ай бұрын
@@thewiseyounglad2699dude , entire anime is about him wanting to become hokage, a literal hero for the village. He always wanted to be a hero to get people's attention.
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
@Monkeytheluffy56 Eh, don't know about that one chief. Seem more leader/strongest over hero.
@yuushiotempest3660
3 ай бұрын
It's because naruto does not have pure evil villains all of them are what naruto could have been if he didn't find people to care about/people who care about him he knows how it can be so he tries to be that one person who offered a helping hand. BTW name one villain naruto talk no jutsud before jumping their ass with like idk 642 shadow clones.
@DameGame-y2i
3 ай бұрын
None, Naruto uses this technique way too much. The only ones that came to my mind that Naruto didn’t use his Talk No Jutsu on were Kaygua, Momoshiki, and Isshiki because they are aliens and Naruto can’t relate to them
@emmarod8746
3 ай бұрын
@@DameGame-y2i One name that proves everything you said is wrong: Madara
@DameGame-y2i
3 ай бұрын
@@emmarod8746 I acknowledge your comment, but I disagree. Madara is just going to view Naruto’s Talk No Justu technique as a mere joke. Madara was far too gone to accept that his ideals were wrong for creating the perfect world from the Infinite Tsukuyomi. Hashirama couldn’t stop him from achieving his plan and sure as hell Naruto couldn’t convince him either way.
@emmarod8746
3 ай бұрын
@@DameGame-y2i Naruto doesn’t know all of that information but he does know why Madara is performing the infinite tsukiyomi through Obito and Madara himself telling Naruto. He chose to reach out to Obito because of what he knew of him,knowing that he could change. If Naruto wanted he could have also tried the same with Madara. We literally see Madara on his deathbed talking to Hashirama after failing to realize his dream, regretting his decisions and the path he took. Naruto was able to change fate and break the cycle of Indra and Asura when he convinced Sasuke to change. Naruto broke the cycle of hatred with Sasuke and if he had enough of a understanding of who Madara was like he did with Sasuke and Obito, he could definitely change fate again with another incarnation of Indra.
@ManyTanks1
3 ай бұрын
@@emmarod8746better example: Kaguya.
@Luigi777888
3 ай бұрын
Its just a false narrative. Naruto dont talk everybody down in the first place. He only really thought about giving Madara a chance, but he could already feel he was different and needed to be parked, and we ain't seen him chat with a single Otsutsuki. How's Kakuzu doin, btw?
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
StRoNgEr ThAn PaIn!!!
@michaeldaniels8021
2 ай бұрын
The issue is that Naruto never had to get his hands dirty and anytime there was a villain Naruto couldn't talk no jutsu there was somebody else there to handle them for Naruto so he wouldn't be forced to get his hands dirty. Also, kakashi took out Kakuzu after Naruto threw the wind rasengan at him
@smb1905
2 ай бұрын
@@michaeldaniels8021 bro naruto is directly the reason why he was gonna die. So you cant call that not getting his hands dirty that literally makes no sense. Thats if i hit someone with a car incapictate them and some random guy shoots them on the ground because their crippled. I still equally contributed to them dying and Naruto did not care, why? Kakuzu is literally evil and only cares about money.
@thetele8646
2 ай бұрын
@@smb1905so he's got a kill and like 2 or 3 assists. Compared to Ichigo, that's pretty bad. And for a ninja, it's quite odd. It's not like he was averse to killing, I mean from what I understand of Naruto's character, he'd rather not kill someone if he can talk it out, but he will if he has to.
@MyNindo2000
3 ай бұрын
Why have so many people either forgotten or just blatantly ignore that Naruto almost always throws hand first before talk no jutsu? People are ignoring that on purpose now just to hate at this point.
@josiahgamer7274
3 ай бұрын
Your goat naruto is soft lil bro
@MyNindo2000
3 ай бұрын
@@josiahgamer7274 Your mom has soft hands, "Lil bro"
@josiahgamer7274
3 ай бұрын
@@MyNindo2000 Cool,your mom cheeks are also soft
@Monkeytheluffy56
3 ай бұрын
@@MyNindo2000going with personal insults just cause they criticized your favourite fictional character, grow up man.
@worthyedge9307
2 ай бұрын
@@Monkeytheluffy56they didn't even offer any actual criticism tho lol He just basically said 'naruto is soft', and even that is blatantly untrue Naruto fights before "talk no jutsu", and when he does do it, he's just speaking his mind and showing that he has understanding of others and a will to change the world. I love all of the big 3, and naruto is maybe my least favorite of them, but so many people miss the whole point of the talk no jutsu stuff.
@thewiseyounglad2699
3 ай бұрын
I don't think people understand that Naruto talks to most of his villains AFTER he beats their ass and they can't continue fucking things up for everyone else. And he only does so to understand where they are coming from before making them know that their mentality is fucked.
@LuckyDaVinci
2 ай бұрын
Exactly people just wanna hate on Naruto in reality its better than they favs
@spencermadison
2 ай бұрын
@@LuckyDaVinci😂 it’s pretty garbage.
@Caleb_Amamiya
2 ай бұрын
Naruto been catching hate because everyone just clip watches.
@LuckyDaVinci
2 ай бұрын
@@Caleb_Amamiya EXACTLY. Actually watch the show
@nolphkynicolas5591
3 ай бұрын
Because beating some of the villains wouldn't solve the actual problems of that world That's just the difference between the stories, the road to peace is more complicated And it's not like Naruto doesn't beat the villains before talking to them so I don't see the problem
@Kuro_neko_OG
3 ай бұрын
I get your point I too like ichigo and luffy more coz of this very reason I know it's fiction but in the real world u won't see me surving a attack by a criminal ,serial killer by talking or preaching them.
@MegaBosskill
3 ай бұрын
Naruto beats you down first before talk no jutsu.. Ichigo was about to cut off a arm & leg for a fair one with ulquiorra
@Kuro_neko_OG
3 ай бұрын
@@MegaBosskill I fully agree.
@philbuttler3427
3 ай бұрын
It's not real bro.
@Vida-jj4on
3 ай бұрын
@@philbuttler3427 He already said that in his comment?
@oatatus4102
2 ай бұрын
@MegaBosskill 0 context dude
@lightyearpig12
2 ай бұрын
Luffy against a villain: I’m gonna punch it! Ichigo: I’m gonna Bankai it. Naruto: I’m gonna give him therapy!
@kannan07
3 ай бұрын
Luffy will run up to you and overthrow your entire rule just because you look a bit wrong at someone who fed him like a bowl of 2 week old rice
@SamuelRondreigz4720
3 ай бұрын
The Naruto talk no jutsu is very overblown.
@TestaTheRonin
2 ай бұрын
Yes naruto does talk to his opponents but it’s after he wins.
@ellingtonf1097
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo when Shirou Emi- I mean Uryu betrayed him straight up went: Imma beat the good back in this bitch
@1wayroadAccel.
2 ай бұрын
wait who- ohhh soo.... Ichigo is Gilgamesh except the simp for that one 'special saber' part.
@ellingtonf1097
2 ай бұрын
@@1wayroadAccel. Also he isn't, you know, a douche.
@1wayroadAccel.
2 ай бұрын
@@ellingtonf1097 that too, but he got the charisma like Gil though
@ellingtonf1097
2 ай бұрын
@@1wayroadAccel. Ichigo do got charisma though
@Y.T.STachi
2 ай бұрын
I think it's a case of people just straight misunderstanding Naruto as a character. He's a.revoulunary who wants to change his world for the better not contribute to the constant war going on. It would be hypocritical of his character to a peace seeker that just be throwing hands wit everyone who slights him. Ands it's not like he doesn't know when to fight. He pulled up on Kakazu with murder on his mind. He tried to kill Itachi which ended up killing a decoy instead. He almost killed Pain if it wasn't for his ideals winning out in the end. He biceted Madara in half with the lava rasenshuriken and he would've died without the god tree amp. So saying Naruto is who's all talk is means either A) You didn't watch the anime or read the manga and got his character from memes.and word of mouth B).You did watch/read and didn't bother to understand the main protagonist
@spiralgodking9877
3 ай бұрын
Obito killed Konan, and Naruto didn't know. He's such a bastard especially for that huge promise he made to her.
@znation6290
3 ай бұрын
The thing is tho half of the people Naruto use talked no Justus on where once good people that’s the only reason it works other then that Naruto just puts belt to ass and goes on about his day
@moustafaabousalem1411
2 ай бұрын
Id agee with this if naruto actually used talk no jutsu a lot but you can actually count on your hands hoe many times he actually did. If the dude is irreversible od completely evil and Naruto has no connection with them, he is throwing hands without even bothing with talking.
@HiDup_Di_InDonesia
2 ай бұрын
Luffy and ichigo = im kicking your ass bad ppl🗿 Naruto = talk to justu with terorist🤡
@Internetscreen
3 ай бұрын
Okay here's the thing with most main Naruto villains they have good intentions but go about it the wrong way so that's why he's able to talk no jutsu them. but bleach and one piece villains are evil asf or don't have good intentions. And also ichigo and luffy aren't exactly heroes themselves they just tried to protect what's important to them
@dislikebutton8979
2 ай бұрын
The Naruto talk no Jutsu thing is so overblown. He deadass only used it three times in the 700 episode series. Against Gaara, Pain and Obito. And even then, he kicked their asses each time before using it 😂
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
5- he used it on neji, gaara, pain, obito, and sasuke (multiple times). All 5 of them either told naruto their stories or expressed it to him. Haku and zabuza honorable mentions.
@dislikebutton8979
2 ай бұрын
@@gtvn2775 Forgot to count Neji, and I didn’t really count Sasuke because he got Sasuke to listen through using his fist, not words. But even then, it’s still only 4 and he still beat Neji and Sasuke’s asses first too.
@philbuttler3427
3 ай бұрын
I mean its fiction right? Whys does everyone talk about fiction like its realistic at all.
@MuchoLucho
2 ай бұрын
People forget that Naruto beats his enemies up before he gives them the "Talk no Jutsu". Zabuza: Bleeding from Kakashi's wounds and fighting Gato's goons. Gaara: LITERALLY in the floor after Naruto headbut the fuck out of him. Nagato: Beat all of his paths of Pain and he was coughing blood, barely able to keep fighting. Obito: Took the Juubi out of him and was left on the floor barely able to move aswell. Sasuke: THEY FOUGHT FOR A WHOLE F*CKING DAY.
@justingabriel1765
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo walked up to a crowd of thugs beating chads ass, kicked one of them in the back of the head, used the dudes phone to call 911 and told them “Yeah imma need paramedics over here… mhmm… how many? Uuuh.. 1,2..4.. about 5 of them, OPE make it 6” hung up and then proceeded to BEAT THEIR ASS. Nah he’s different
@tuiban3568
2 ай бұрын
Long analysis, don't tag me I mean as an adult i see it more deeply though, life isn't just about beating up anyone isn't like you or don't agree with you(if you wanna live that kinda life, sure) but to understand their reason but still act on your beliefs. Which is why naruto didn't rebuke pain although their reasoning is against one another, like it or not pain has his strong reason and who was naruto to judge if he was gonna do the same. Might get hate for this since naruto isn't perfect but i learn more from naruto than bleach or gomu gomu guy wanting treasure. Bleach and rubber guy looking for treasure by fighting approach a more simplistic view and just want the viewer to have fun and simply consume products, while my thinking (atleast psychologically and also sometimes) get challenged with how naruto deals with enemies To put more simply "haha yea luffy and ichigo beat em up they're bad and you're always the good guys" Compare to " They're bad right? Why is naruto sympathizing with them? Wait konoha did that?... We're the good guys right?" There's a lack of heaviness when in one piece when 2 guys have different opinion fighting, who the hell cared about hody's psychology when luffy beat him up? Who the hell care for kaido's reasoning when luffy beat him up? (One of the fights i remember being heavy was senior pink's fight, and luffy isn't the one fighting and even then it doesn't feel right because even tho he has a sad backstory, it almost had no correlation to why he's fighting franky defending Doflamingo) Everything is Luffy's pathway, a 1 straight road in a 2 person fight as if kicking a rock and a bigger rock instead of the 2 way road of ideology when naruto fight having to push a wall moving against him (on the big Enemies) Sometimes simplicity is nice no hate for anyone enjoying anything, but again it only get you so far
@laurence_lookmyr
2 ай бұрын
Imo this take only exists for the same reason 99% of Naruto takes exist. People watch that series and their brains get fucking fried, unable to do the slightest narrative analysis. The entire story and point of Naruto starting all the way back in the land of waves is an anti-war anti-violence story, so of course Naruto doesn’t just kill people if he sees a path for the alternative. He tries to redeem people like pain, obito, or especially sasuke, not because he is just some chill guy, but because killing them directly continues the cycle of hatred that the entire story is centered around destroying. Unlike one piece or bleach, the narrative falls apart if Naruto goes around killing fuckin everyone. This complaint, to me, is like watching Thorfinn say I have no enemies and then being surprised he is trying to be a pacifist.
@corruptangel6793
Ай бұрын
The thing I hate about the talk-no-jutsu is that it works. Their sudden 180 hurts their motivations and resolve and just makes them lesser villains. It undermines their story
@imperialspy7204
3 ай бұрын
Naruto will beat you or talk you out your bullsht Luffy will beat anyone that's messing with the people that gave him food Ichigo just neutral
@unc54
2 ай бұрын
Tbf the villains in Naruto tend to be presented as broken humans rather than evil for the sake of it, so Naruto trying to rationalize with them is more understandable.
@OzzyBatman619
2 ай бұрын
*You’d think this would be common sense… But there are delusional fans who try and justify this kind of trash… 😂*
@moreplugs
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo literally pulled up on BT for rukia strong arming everything
@jeffsmith3747
2 ай бұрын
lol Ichigo and muddy both have there own problems with there villains too that ain’t nothing special at all
@RomarioAllison
2 ай бұрын
Add yusuke from yu yu for the perfect we dont give a fuck bout your reason trinity
@samvxlentinee
2 ай бұрын
Dr. Martian Luther king and Malcom X
@JDubs1464
2 ай бұрын
“I killed your mentor, spun your block, killed your other mentor, I’m going crazy” Naruto: I know that, and I forgive you “I’m gonna take over this country via corruption in the Warlord system” Some guy from the opposite side of the world(He just got a ham and cheese): Not on my watch you fucking aren’t
@justacrow5990
2 ай бұрын
He didn't forgive him he just didn't want to continue the cycle of hatred
@skele1067
2 ай бұрын
Despite always kicking absolute ass, Ichigo does try to ask why tf someone is messing with him or his friends... He berates you if your reason for wanting to end the literal afterlife is because of some dumb shit, but he'll still hear your ass out before kicking it inside-out.
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo be sparing whole sociopaths and Psychopaths (especially those quincies). At least naruto’s talk no jutsu victims were broken hearted people. No shade to ichigo though, he still is a good Character😂
@anarchyxgaming8478
3 ай бұрын
This is so fucking true, but I feel people forget that Naruto has ran the fade unforgivingly. Naruto has a very good heart and the only reason he does the shit he does is because he thinks he can understand others due to similar circumstances and seeing their motive, but yes I do believe that is a good take on why Ichigo and Luffy can be argued to be better
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
Nah, Ichigo spares much more than naruto. Naruto will not talk you out of anything if u don’t mention your story and pains first. Sasuke, Pain, Neji, and Obito did that; hence he was willing to talk to them. If you don’t talk to him first, he is going to body you with no remorse.
@anarchyxgaming8478
2 ай бұрын
@@gtvn2775 Naruto’s kill count: 1 Ichigos kill count: 10+ You’re canonically wrong with this one sadly
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
@@anarchyxgaming8478 Naruto actually fights with killing intent about 80% of the time (20% he knew the person he was fighting). There was mad times naruto was suppose to get a kill but something like healing or a sacrifice happened (which was a cop out). You can see that in all of his big battles too (excluding sasuke and chunin exams). Ichigo legit was sparing the quincies he fought despite the attrocities and lack of remorse they had. Naruto in most of his fights were out for blood. Naruto also only talked to his opponent if they shared their story with him (5 times that happened).
@anarchyxgaming8478
2 ай бұрын
@@gtvn2775 Naruto typically fights with more combative intent but I get your point. Ichigo however never doesn’t fight with killing intent. Every fight Ichigo is in, he’s on the prowl
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
@@anarchyxgaming8478 Also, technically Ichigo has only killed 5 people (with 3 of them debatable such as soul king, yhwach, and ulquoirra). Naruto has way more close kills than ichigo has (such as his opponent suffering a fatal injury that got ignored or killed by someone else).
@djspice1232
2 ай бұрын
Naruto beats thier ass first too You one piece fans lack reading comprehension
@justacrow5990
2 ай бұрын
You kinda have to to like mid piece
@WayneWaizas
2 ай бұрын
That's because Naruto has no villains
@greysonlewis8096
2 ай бұрын
My biggest thing is too many people in the Naruto universe keep getting forgiven for horrible acts and the biggest people of that were Oruchimaru and Sasuke. Legitimate terrorists and actively tried to kill everyone in the village but Naruto gives them pardons because they “helped in the war” it just makes no sense to me that you would somehow trust this people who were shown to want to attack the village and experiment on people and let them stay in the village with NO REPERCUSSIONS
@TheOneWhoSouls1405
2 ай бұрын
First of all, Naruto witnessed Sasuke's change of heart right when it happened. Not only that, but Sasuke did help in ending the war and the Infinite Tsukuyomi. Sasuke did do at least some jail time, and he currently goes around the world and helping anyone in need as atonement for his sins. Orochimaru is under constant watch 24/7. I do agree that it is weird that Orochimaru gets to walk around, but it's not like he isn't limited. Orochimaru lives by the village, but not directly in it. He is completely alone besides living with his kid and the person/people watching him all day everyday.
@gtvn2775
2 ай бұрын
Ichigo was legit sparing some crazier offenders (all those quincies he fought especially). Sasuke and orochimaru paid their dues in some way. Sasuke went to jail and orochimaru died than got changed from it.
@NarutoUzumaki-dm2oz
2 ай бұрын
Okay, fair point but are you forgetting the fact that naruto only uses talk no jutsu on people and tailed beasts because they have fallen on the wrong path and the people Naruto actually takes out are actual monsters.
@Superdude-rd2gs
3 ай бұрын
people forget Naruto killed kakuzu in colc blood.
@NaimaIslam-mb7ip
2 ай бұрын
Luffy- Talk to the hand mf
@mr.exeggutor7780
3 ай бұрын
Can you imagine if luffy instead of introducing gear 3 tried talking them into handing over Robin instead at their front door rather than breaking in to rescue her?
@jaylensteward3461
3 ай бұрын
That would have went bad in so many ways
@MegaBosskill
3 ай бұрын
Well the thing is ppl forget Naruto puts them hands on you before he talks you down. Luffy beats you down but that did not stop lucci from wanting to kill him so he had to beat him again & still didn’t stop. Naruto not just talking lol
@randomsunflower6998
3 ай бұрын
@@MegaBosskill The thing with that too is that Luffy only wanted to get Robin back then get tf outta there. He wasn’t there to try and stop Lucci from being evil. I don’t think he really cares much for what happens to his enemies after he beats them as long as they don’t go after his friends or family again. He’s a pirate at the end of the day not a hero he knows he can’t help everyone so he doesn’t try he just works to save the people he can. Not to say that Naruto is bad for trying they just live in different worlds. Because of that it’s hard to compare their actions when they already have such different mentalities
@imaginaryking5276
3 ай бұрын
Can you imagine if instead of talking to pain, Naruto just beat him up and went away resulting in the people in konoha staying dead and obito/madara winning?
@feister2869
3 ай бұрын
@@imaginaryking5276more thematic thing would also be naruto continuing the cycle of hatred, making pain right in the long term.
@LuLuMiss-06
3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of how I love shows like Fairy Tail with all my heart, but one thing that bothers me is the endless amount of redemptions. Spoilers for grand magic games arc, but like, I'm sorry you expect me to believe Natsu would forgive Minerva or Flare that easily after they both almost killed Lucy??
@yatagarasu9012
3 ай бұрын
It's also why I dislike Tanjiro, he has the audacity to cry for the demons? Like I get that they became demons and are essentially forced to follow Muzans ordere but really? You think I care that you went trough all that shit when what you did is worse in every way imagineable? Guts, Luffy Ichigo would you be like "Gonna cry?" And then finish the job
@Xeno1_3
3 ай бұрын
Naruto gotta learn from ichigo, pull up to the destroyed soul society look for the one responsible and box him
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