I asked a former career USAF F-16 pilot friend, a retired Lt. Colonel with over 10,000 hours in the Viper if having the Viper will bring the Ukrainians an advantage and he thinks they will-with high quality training and practice. In some ways he said the airplane is easy to fly and in other ways complicated to employ. Hopefully the first training group are experienced pilots that will make the transition much easier
@user-McGiver
Жыл бұрын
I came to say just this... but listening Alex... they don't get Vipers... but what they get can be upgraded to Vipers, the point is, are they?... A Viper upgrade would be awesome, but how long would it take to be approved?... it's a stupid thing all around and after the war, there will be a lot of talk about ''delays'' and 'reasons''... Anyway, Ukraine learn a lesson... never give up your weapons again, and make sure you can offer protection... not ask for...!
@LordEmperorHyperion
Жыл бұрын
The F16s are going to shot down way before they can get airborne either by drones or hypersonics.
@nctrns
Жыл бұрын
After seeing analysts comment on how UA forces deployed Leopards and Bradleys in Zaporizhzhia offensive, I think the shortened crew / pilot training and lack of systematic approach and integration will lead to less than expected performance. If F-16s were to be confirmed back in August last year, and training started around that time, with a more complete "system" delivery, I think it could have made a huge difference.
@user-McGiver
Жыл бұрын
@@nctrns ''anal-ysts'' predicted that Ukraine would fall in a few days!... when the Ukis deployed the Western Armor in Zapo and got kicked they were simply fighting the ''Western way'' but without air support!... so they pulled back and now they innovate ways to fight every day... wanna play the blame-game?../ blame those who are holding Ukraine back!.// blame those who want ruZZia to ''pull out''... blame those who don't want ruZZia to be invaded... blame those who NED ruZZia, so THEY can exist too...
@bluthammer1442
Жыл бұрын
anything they didnt have before will be an advantage. expert opinion or not
@FancyPantsOnFire
Жыл бұрын
RIP to callsign JUICE who is mentioned in this video. Confirmed he passed away today in a mid air collision with another mig29. Glory to the heroes and LONG LIVE UKRAINE 🇺🇦
@simonleonard8154
Жыл бұрын
I just saw that news now. RIP Juice
@sjsisdhdjdkssosjdhxnx
Жыл бұрын
I guess the Juice was squeezed from him. Hahaha😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
@FancyPantsOnFire
Жыл бұрын
@@sjsisdhdjdkssosjdhxnx looks like you’re just bitter he made something of himself and you never have. Cope smarter. Not harder Putler bot boi 👍
@Dan-lg2by
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't a mig 29 was a trainer aircraft
@FancyPantsOnFire
Жыл бұрын
@@Dan-lg2by yes, we know this a couple days later
@kalashnikovdevil
Жыл бұрын
I still maintain the biggest thing about getting a Western aircraft is access to Western munitions. AIM-120s, the full capability of the HARM, the list goes on. More ease of integrating other European weapons systems like the Meteor. Lots and lots of options, and that's what the Viper is for Ukraine. Access to a whole lot of options.
@jdogdarkness
Жыл бұрын
Data link is what enables the FULL function of HAARM & other western munitions. Currently, for ex. JDAM & Stormshadow must be programmed on the ground, leaving ALL the flexibility these weapons provide on the table. But now, with F16AM they can be redirected & programmed in fight & even after fired.
@IRONIC1688
Жыл бұрын
The SU25 has a RWR, it's less detailed but still, it gives the pilot sufficient info to dodge Radar guided missiles both from Air and Ground radar guided threats. What the SU25 pilot meant is that he does not have an IR guided missiles launch warning for heat seekers, that is also the case with the Viper.
@keirfarnum6811
Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the Ukrainian Su25s lack them compared to Russia’s more advanced version. Their RWRs are pretty basic though; it just has lights that light up in whichever direction the threat is coming from and a general indicator of distance. They don’t have screens like NATO planes.
@sarcasticommentator
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the Ukrainians Su have it. I seen some vids and I can’t spot it where it normally is.
@milanprica7513
Жыл бұрын
@keirfarnum6811 they don't have screen, but are in some ways superior to western. They give signal strength info, meaning info what threat is closer.
@Picla_Peremohy
Жыл бұрын
@@milanprica7513 якщо ви бачите, як москаль рот ворушить своєю дупою - це заздрить
@jackbutler183
8 ай бұрын
@@milanprica7513Not really true. Even the F14 could semi accurately track active radar missiles and have it displayed on its RWR screen showing relative distance.
@maddog4u31757
Жыл бұрын
Never heard of this channel before, but this was a damn good middle ground video. We need more of that realistic reporting. Subbed.
@Craider79
Жыл бұрын
These might be fighters which are currently being put out of service by us - however - up till recently the Danish air force have been given a lot of praise for their effectiveness in NATO operations. They seem to be very well kept fighters and they have flown A LOT of missions with very few hickups. Since 1980 we have bought 77 F16s - of which 10 have been lost. This includes everything from combat to training. A direct translation of some facts about the Danish F16 service: "Here you can read more about the Air Force's combat aircraft F-16 Fighting Falcon: * The air force's F-16 aircraft are of the Fighting Falcon type and can both fight against other aircraft in the air and carry out precise bombing of targets on the ground. * Denmark decided in 1975 to buy 58 F-16 aircraft. The first arrived in Denmark in 1980, after which the planes gradually replaced the Air Force's other planes. * Today, Denmark has 40 F-16 aircraft, of which 30 are still in use. * The planes are armed with a 20 millimeter machine gun and also have stations for bombs, rockets and missiles. * The Danish F-16 aircraft have been used in several international operations in the Balkans, in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq. * F-16 fighter jets are on duty around the clock to repel unwanted aircraft in Danish airspace or assist aircraft in trouble. * Denmark has decided that the F-16 aircraft must be replaced by the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. * The last Danish F-16 aircraft are expected to be retired in Denmark in 2027. * The first four Danish F-35 aircraft arrive on 1 October. In total, Denmark has purchased 27 F-35 aircraft. " So in essence let's make this ABUNDANTLY CLEAR!: These F16s ARE STILL in service and are daily helping keeping the Russian air force at bay when they make incursions into Scandinavian airspace as part of the "Nordic Air Force" - a force of aprox. 250 F-35, F-16, F-18, and JAS39C/D/E. They are not relics from a museum - nor are they lesser than almost any other aircraft currently serving in NATO. Furthermore the pilots and crews are being trained by our pilots and crews - who knows these fighters inside and out. There is a HUGE advantage to this being the F16 - since our expertise of using these machines of war in actual modern combat is second to non - even the Americans. We were there right next to you - fighting in the same wars and earning recognition from the rest of NATO. What's my point here? My point is this: You keep saying "IF". "IF" the Ukrainians can this or that... I think that's a mute point m8! These pilots and crews are gonna be trained by the best in the world. They WILL make a huge difference - and they WILL use them to their fullest extent as long as they can! And yes you are 100% correct that they will lose some of our F16s in this fight! There is NO getting around that... But can you seriously think of a better sendoff for these magnificent fighters than fighting for the freedom of a sovereign nation which is under attack by overwhelming odds? 1 to 2 SU-27? Hell! Let's make it 1 to 10! Let's make a bet and see who comes closest! Slava Ukraini!
@lonpfrb
Жыл бұрын
🇩🇰 VIKING POWER 🇩🇰
@robertpella2389
Жыл бұрын
Pilot training programs aren't going away after the first class graduates . There are thousands of F-16s.Implementation of F-16s while time consuming is sustainable in significant numbers .
@burakf8172
Жыл бұрын
Very good, informative and educative video👍 Nothing like uneducated guys speaking of that all the F-16s and Netherlands, Denmarks or Belgium F-16s are the same F-16 blocks and same capabilities or they are new airframes. Very good work. Maybe u can also mention about these F-16s expected air-ground use. You know everybody expect they will be very useful to summer offensive and break the defensive lines. So after Suppressin of Air defenses, they are expected to destroy the defensive lines of trenches, mines, artilleries with weapons like LGBs, Jdams or other weapons staying out of range of shorads. Could u do a video about this, but as good as this one😊😎?
@sadlerbw9
Жыл бұрын
My best guess is that Ukraine is largely going to use F-16's for SEAD, and ground attack. I seriously doubt they are going to try to get into air dominance fights with Russia if they can avoid it. As mentioned, Russia still has a significant number of jets and anti-air weaponry. So, I think a Ukraine will mostly be setting up sorties where two or three F-16's perform SEAD missions while several more make ground attacks to either blunt a Russian attack, or to disrupt the Russian lines in a small area to allow ground forces to advance. So basically, get in the air and run like hell to a spot on the front lines, keep the ground-based AA quiet, drop some bombs, and leave before Russian jets can intercept. I expect to some missions to intercept Russian missile raids as well, but in general I think most of what the F-16's will be doing is ground attack. I do NOT expect to see F-16's patrolling the skies over Ukraine, waiting for calls for CAS or to chase off incoming Russian KA-52's or SU-24's, or anything like that. I do not expect to see them crossing the border to hunt down Russian jets that get close to launch cruise and ballistic missiles. I do not expect to see them flying out over the Black sea and sinking Russian warships. I do not expect to see them fly down to the Kerch bridge and blow more holes in it. While these are all things the F-16 would certainly be capable of, I think the realities of still being outnumbered and possibly outgunned in the air will make them unlikely. For now, the F-16 is probably a way to attack Russian positions on the front lines that will be way more effective than what the SU-24's can manage right now. For me, the biggest question for me is whether or not Russia will be forced to go after the F-16's in the air and start putting their own aircraft at serious risk again, or if they will continue to stay away from Ukrainian SAMs and hope they can attack the F-16's on the ground rather than in air-to-air combat. I'm really not sure if Russia is more concerned about potentially losing more jets, or seeing their defensive lines broken by aerial bombing. Either way, I think the F-16's are going to make a real difference, but not turn the whole tide of the war.
@luigimrlgaming9484
Жыл бұрын
Spot on, however that still might be very hard for the Ukrainians to do. Russia has been using MiG-31s to fire long range missiles within the safety of their borders to kill Ukrainian aircraft. These long range intercepts could easily kill F-16s if they stick around for too long.
@MarcosElMalo2
Жыл бұрын
Sure, but you need top cover, too. Basically, you need a total package for temporary local superiority. Maybe someone knows how many aircraft it will take to fulfill these roles at the same time.
@timtrewyn453
Жыл бұрын
The Kerch rail bridge is a vital target. So is the road bridge. After some preparatory taxing of Russian AD over days, I can see Ukraine putting a large package of drones, SEAD F16s and F16s with 1000lb bombs together to making a sacrificial (if necessary) attack on the bridge. Russia would have to use the land bridge rail systems more, which the UAF is getting closer to almost daily. Shut down heavy freight to Kherson oblast and Crimea and the Russian military there starts to decay.
@lonpfrb
Жыл бұрын
@@timtrewyn453Don't forget the Storm Shadow that already has the bridge under threat. Ukraine already knows the RF supply lines and has destroyed the intermediate bridges and depots with Artillery and rockets to put them under critical stress. So very effective with what they already have. Likewise the drone deep fires on remote bases has both reduced reserve replacement and shown that the war is in ruzzia.
@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Take down enemy radar so they can launch cruise missiles at empty C&C, ammo, etc. also enables them to intercept R aircraft on attacks as they will have less AA defense of their own to fly over
@RickInMaryland
8 ай бұрын
As a former electronic warfare aircraft maintainer in the U.S. Air Force, specializing on the Wild Weasel system and its integration with the AGM-88 HARM, I don't understand how they are going to keep these F-16s operational. Who is going to fix them? Not only do they require day-to-day maintenance, flying combat sorties is going to accelerate the time tables for regular phase maintenance. Are they planning on flying them next door to Poland to have NATO maintainers do the work?
@threshershrk
Жыл бұрын
Commentary I've seen from USAF sources says one of the biggest challenges is that Ukraine operates fighters out of austere airfields. The F-16 requires excellent runways and has no FOD protection to keep foreign objects out of the intake when taking off or recovering. Such airfields would become instant targets for Russia, so I'm curious as to how Ukraine plans to overcome this problem.
@joeybobbie1
Жыл бұрын
They can use Highways and Roads.
@threshershrk
Жыл бұрын
Nah, it's way more complex. Not only are Vipers not meant to land on austere runways like roads, F-16s are base-oriented aircraft from a conceptual design standpoint. There is a heavy maintenance burden including dozens of crew, parts logistics, and tooling that need to be available to keep the jets flying. It's not well-suited to operate in the types of field conditions that Russian MiGs can tolerate. This issue will be the hardest thing to overcome with Western fighters because by the time you can establish ground crew, maintenance facilities, and a place to reliably land you've created a pretty significant target. I do think they can figure out how to get a few flying, but this is a way larger problem than just getting jets and training pilots. @@joeybobbie1
@T51B1
Жыл бұрын
That's easily fixed by fixing runway cracks + sealing them, and also employing a good FOD program.
@michaels.chupka9411
Жыл бұрын
nice work on the a/a match up and how the wiring and computers inside will allow for more efficient use of missiles against aircraft and radars. one or two other items to consider--greater availability of weapons that can be supplied (not having to find old soviet stockpiles) from nato/west stores and the more effective use against ground targets due to on board f16 systems (thinking even a few gbu's & tpods might attrit some Russian depots or make combat supply lines more tenuous.
@patrickjordan5633
9 ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the Viper and all-weather/anytime attack aircraft while the 29 is not? Oh yeah, the 29 doesn't really do ground attack either. Boy! Do those Ukranian pilots have a lot to learn!! However, I do agree with the comment that they are extremely motivated and are the best Ukraine can send. 2024 is going to have a different look over the skies of Ukraine.
@Khosann1
11 ай бұрын
3 simple points: F-16 spare parts available for sustained operations; the number of missiles, bombs and ammo for sustained operations, and the number of trained and experienced Ukrainian F-16 pilots. Add the readiness levels of various F-16s on top of that and you won't get the silver bullet you want.
@Sqeptick
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you heard, but Juice reportedly died in an L-39 accident this week. RIP Juice.
@lawrenceralph7481
8 ай бұрын
No effect. They are too complicated. When simplified and separated from the US network, they cannot perform effectively.
@brealistic3542
Жыл бұрын
Radar warning receivers can always spot the transmission of a radar transmitter first. No problem at all. To have a two hundred mile range that transmitter has to be very powerful indeed. a good analogy is this. One can see the beam of a flashlight far sooner then that flashlight can see you.
@wolfmlp
Жыл бұрын
What about data linking? Do these have the capability, and if so what are the chances nato will allow them to datalink with their awacs?
@fredcorbin3571
Жыл бұрын
FYI - Just returned from a visit to friends in Russia - visited a Russian Air Force Base and they have taken delivery of 21 BRAND NEW SU-57's - 20 more on delivery within the next 14 months - 32 Air Bases will be equipped with the SU-57 by 2025. Sukhoi is producing 4 aircraft per month now and they are being actively deployed in Russia's Far East bases first. What makes the distinctive sound of the SU-57 is produced by the Engine Air intake Duct design and the unique capability of an active variable bypass ratio of the turbofan. They are 3 engine options for the SU-57 and the development of all 3 is ongoing. The Radar Cross Section of the aircraft is 500 times smaller than the F-16 due to - in development Radar Absorbing Coatings being developed by Zala Aero for the Russian Air Force. The ability to out maneuver the F-16 is already proven because its a better version of the SU-33 which the Indian Air Force flew against the U.S. Air Force in 2008 and achieved a kill ratio of 11 -2 against the F-16 and the F-15. There is NO CONTEST - PERIOD!! as far as Air to Air Maneuverability is concerned. However, Pilot Training and Individual Aggression and Innovation will always be the deciding factor in any Air to Air Encounter. How does the SU-57 achieve its Superior Maneuvrability ?? In addition to the 3D Thrust Vectoring Engine Nozzles the aircraft has High Deflection Wing Leading Edge Strakes that allow rapid air flow directional changes and thus rapid changes in the centre of pressure / lift coefficient of the lifting body - thus allowing extreme directional changes along the aircraft's 3 axis'. In other words - it can temporarily go completely out of control but in a controlled manner in order to achieve maximum "Off Bore Sight" / Point & Shoot / Evasive Action. The F-22 is positively lethargic by comparison and an F-16 will be shot out of the sky forthwith - particularly in Ukraine where the Russian Military has preformed BVR Strike Capability heretofore unmatched in modern warfare. The F-16 with AMRAAM will only be effective against the SU-57 if Highly Experienced American - Israeli or NATO Pilots are in the Cockpit and operate on a "See First -Shoot First" Net Centric Combat Scenario. Otherwise, the SU-57 has the ability to shoot them out of the sky within 3 minutes of them taking off from their bases in Poland or any other of the Baltic States. How So ? The SU-57 deploys a BVR Missile known as the R-37M with a 400 km range. militarywatchmagazine.com/article/longest-ranged-aam-performs-ukraine-su57 This missile has its development origins from the Hughes AIM-54 which the Russian Military Intelligence (GRU) got their hands on in 1979 when a fully equipped F-14 Tomcat was secretly transferred to Russia from the Imperial Iranian Air Force during the Islamic Revolution that saw the fall of the Shah of Iran and the installment of the Radical Islamic Cleric Ayatollah Khomeini. If you think this story is baloney - then I invite you to read this book by Viktor Suvorov - "Inside Soviet Military Intelligence" www.amazon.com/Inside-Soviet-Military-Intelligence-Suvorov/dp/0026155109 Bottom Line Folks - NATO could send 500 F-16's to Ukraine - IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING !! Why Do I Say This ?? 1. It takes 4 years of comprehensive Tactical Red Flag / Foreign Deployment Experience and Training to deliver a Competent Air Combat Pilot capable of operating in a highly contested air space & complex modern warfare scenario. 2. Ukraine does not possess the Trainable Man Power nor the Active Duty Experienced Pilot resources from which to draw the required personnel to even remotely accomplish a competently trained and active operational squadron before 2028. 3. Unless the U.S. and NATO decide to put American - Israeli and NATO Pilots in the F-16's delivered to Ukraine - The combat losses ratio will be precisely what they are now - 10 to 0 4. Russian Air Defense Systems have proven that everything from small hobby drones and aircraft to high altitude high speed missiles can be successfully intercepted and destroyed. 5. If the U.S. and NATO are Stupid Enough to even think of deploying Tactical Nukes on F-16's - Russia will Actively Target every NATO / U.S. Base in Europe - including Naval Carrier Groups in the Atlantic and the Mediterranean with a combined Nuclear Assault up to and not limited to - Major Cities and Economic Infrastructure. I am definitely NOT PRO RUSSIAN - I'm a Facts Only / Scientific Data / Experienced Veteran - We need to get our Asses Back In Line and De-escalate this ongoing Bullshit Proxy Conflict or we will be handed our Very Burnt Smoking Asses on a Platter that says - "From Russia with Love"
@tcranston
Жыл бұрын
You crystal ball predictions are essentially assuming a dog fight between U.S. and Russian planes. In the 21st Century, there will be no dog fights, since all kills will be from several hundred miles stand off. Whomever has the best lock on sensing wins. and that's not Russia.
@davids1inwestholl45
Жыл бұрын
O-M-G! Alex, this video montage is like Air Force PORN!😁 If I didn't need one to fly, I'd give my right leg to do what they do flying in this vid. You've got great source material!
@anomymouse5043
Жыл бұрын
Some thoughts: 1. I understood that some US / UK / EU fighter pilots were willing to support Ukraine in it's fight for democracy. This should big asset here, as the training is one bottleneck. This should apply also to maintenance. 2. If a US / UK / EU fighter pilot (or fighter mechanic) decides to go to Ukraine, it is his/her personal decision. There are no ties to any government in this decision. Furthermore, the Russia talked about consequences when HIMARS were sent, when Finland joined NATO, when leopards were sent, when sanctions were applied on banks etc. No consequences yet. 3. If the F16 is flying mostly in Ukraine controlled airspace, then who knows the nationality of the pilot. Same goes for the maintenance personnel that naturally works far from the frontier. 4. Foreign pilots could be, at least, used to secure Kiev, as it hosts diplomats from other countries.
@flightscapeaviationphoto
Жыл бұрын
Typical in-depth objective analysis by Alex H … IMO, one of the best aerospace journalists out there.
@kiketve2
Жыл бұрын
That Pilot "Juice" just died 5 days ago during training (rest in Peace friend). sad day for these glorious Ukrainian men.
@jerrywatson1958
Жыл бұрын
Another great video Alex. Thanks for all your hard work. I have a question wouldn't the A-10, F-16 be a good combination for Ukraine's push next year? They should have two teams training on both aircraft. I am sure there are enough english speaking translators to help the new people adjust while they train. I want US to increase the behind the scenes efforts and training.
@Appletank8
Жыл бұрын
Eh, they’re already a pain for their original owners to repair, and they can only really safely operate with strong air cover. I don’t see much point.
@Typexviiib
Жыл бұрын
I cant see a10s surviving very long with all the manpads
@jerrywatson1958
Жыл бұрын
@@Appletank8 The F-16's are the air cover. If you watch one of Alex's previous videos on how the A-10 can be used as a flying weapons platform behind the front. It is not for dog fighting and they are tough as hell. Russian manpads are in short supply.
@jerrywatson1958
Жыл бұрын
@@Typexviiib They survived Iran and Iraq. They are not invincible but do a lot of damage on the field of battle. Besides Russian manpads are in short supply. They seem to have a chip supply problem.
@Appletank8
Жыл бұрын
@@jerrywatson1958 The amount of maintenance needed to keep A-10s flying gives off the impression that their toughness is now heavily coated in rust. Why are you tasking an A-10 to do what the F-16 can already do, and simplify logistics?
@LuarSeyer-vd6mt
Жыл бұрын
Thanxs to all who donates F16 to Ukraine ,God bless Ukraine and all western countries who gives full support to Ukraine.
@traktor321
Жыл бұрын
F16 gonna be a gamechanger
@michaelccozens
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! I think it's also worth noting that, as with the Leopards and 155mm systems, one big advantage for Ukraine is going to be access to the wealth of F16 parts, fuel, weapons, facilities, and know-how that allied nations can offer. Ukraine's had to husband their already-limited resources very carefully so far, as it's not like Russian manufacturers are going to sell to them to refill their stocks. With the F16s, those limitations disappear. And while I'm sure Russia will send some of the best of what they have left in order to try to snipe F16s for the propaganda victory (seems to be one of Putin's biggest concerns), it's important to remember that "what they have left" isn't a lot. The toll on Russia's elite forces, especially in the wake of the failure of their initial sneak-attack decapitation strike, has been severe. The VDV basically doesn't exist anymore. The entire pre-war operational fleet of T80s has been wiped-out. The First Guards Tank Army is history. Can't imagine the Russian Air Force, with its continued failure to secure air superiority over a much smaller and much inferior Ukrainian force, has fared much better. If Ukraine continues to display the rationality and ingenuity that has seen them humble the Russian bear so completely to this point in their operation of the F16s, chances are they're going to have a lot of victories to show in not too long of a timeframe.
@jonronnquist
10 ай бұрын
Finally got to this after watching several hype pieces on the subject. This is exactly what someone wishing to understand the potential impact of this airframe on the war really needs. Just the facts.
@martindice5424
8 ай бұрын
In 1943 the USAAF was using the P-47 and P-51. The Finns were using Brewster Buffaloes and playing merry hell with the Red Airforce. I see an analogy here..🤔
@robertevans9354
Жыл бұрын
The only thing you must admit is that Jdam oo8 combat wombat division had better keep their 360clean and dry or it Katy bar the door . Don't get apac awac systems confused with 470A2P or leakage occurs at regular intervals above 60 meters per second ..with respect to enemy combatants or collateral damage .
@00calvinlee00
Жыл бұрын
Excellent report. I guess that as the Ukrainian AF begin to field the Viper Squadrons, they will slowly introduce them to the fight, allowing them to provide solid CAP for the rearward cities. The F-16s with AGM-88 and 65s bring A2G options but the AIM-120 bring A2A capability and augments the various Ukrainians Air Defense systems. F-16s in the rear means more IDAS can be moved up to the front, giving the Russian Aircraft the choice of flying deep into Ukrainian Air Space with growing AntiAir capability or keeping their strike aircraft further back. I imagine the Ukrainians will also be training not only pilots and maintenance folks but Operations Instructors. Another cool thing is the Ukrainians have real world experience against the S-300/400, Su-35 and will couple that with newer tactics from Western Instructors. Im sure some the Vipers will be retained for training but a sudden influx of two or three Squadrons will have an effect.
@RonLWilson
Жыл бұрын
Where the F-16 could potentially make a huge difference is if they are provided with anti ship missiles where they could pretty much chase the Russian fleet out of the western Black sea and open up grain shipments. With a mixture of HARMs and anti ship missiles that might pose a huge threat to the Russian surface fleet, both at sea or in ports such as Sevastopol. Plus they could help take out the Kerch Bridge and isolate Crimea from being supplied by sea other than the Sea of Azov. That plus keeping the Russian aircraft at bay with AMRAAMs could be a real game changer!
@kathrynck
Жыл бұрын
Block 50/52 is when the F-16 (finally) "got good". But I'm not sure how well the export variant is actually equipped. Also, even with the F110 engines, it's not a "hot rod" compared to modern Russian aircraft (Su-30's & 35's being most likely to be encountered). The F-16's will have to be used 'very carefully'. They aren't going to make much of an impact offensively, but they could reinforce Ukraines air defense. HARM missiles will have a much bigger impact than the planes themselves. Regarding the Su-35 assessments, the plane is essentially an Su-27, and has gone through so many upgrades, updates, and design changes, that it's impossible to summarize them all together. An Su-35S just trounces an older version Su-35, which in turn trounces the Su-27. Russia went hard on "gen 4.5", in a way unlike the west (who didn't want cheaper but lesser options on the table in front of arms appropriations committees). And the Russian air force is full of a mixture of older and newer models. Saying "Su-35's are junk" is very much grouping an incredibly large number of different aircraft with wildly different capabilities together.
@_Flying_Dutchman_
Жыл бұрын
As said in one of my earlier messages it seems Netherlands is providing 42 MLU's with updates till 2015. Se they are pretty recent but do lack the AESA radar.
@tomdane
Жыл бұрын
17:00 RIP Juice, Slava Ukraine
@sillyslapper92
Жыл бұрын
16:13 "...Su-25s that have no RWR onboard at all." Are you sure that's an accurate statement? Ukraine's Su-25s likely do have a soviet-era SPO-15 Beryoza RWR onboard. I think the quote by Pumba at 16:26 is not talking about RWR but rather the fact that the Su-25 does not have a Missile Approach Warning System (MAW/MWS). The RWR can warn the pilot of the launch of radar guided SAM but a MAW system is needed to warn the pilot of the launch of IR guided SAMs (e.g. MANPADS, SA-13, etc.) which Pumba is most likely pointing out with that quote, especially since he mentions "firing off heat traps" (i.e. flare countermeasures) which can only be effective against IR guided missiles but not radar guided.
@terrynicewonger1603
Жыл бұрын
Very Clear and honest video.
@lavy6984
Жыл бұрын
just wanna clear something up. might be an honest mistake from you but the r73 is an IR missile, did you mean r77?
@mikhailv67tv
Жыл бұрын
61 Jet Fighters given to Ukraine by Netherlands and Denmark. That’s an amazing deal/ AID grant. While I would like to see 250 Jets flown by the Ukrainian Air Force & hundreds of tanks and AFV’s . That will enable them to kick the Russians out.
@LenTexDIY
Жыл бұрын
The US should allow A-10s to be sent to Ukraine, but use them as missile trucks like Alex proposed using A-10s in a previous video. Load them up with a shit ton of long range air to ground missiles and keep them back from the front lines.
@LeonAust
9 ай бұрын
The F-16 can carry a lot of various awesome weapons.
@rodneyjackson7147
Жыл бұрын
damn you pwned the trolls before they started typing haha
@chrisstopher2277
Жыл бұрын
it be cool if the US built Ukraine an Air force with all there decomissioned planes. Id use put together a couple F111, F4, f117, and some F14s and you could probably have a top air force and throw in a couple B24s for fun.
@apersondoingthings5689
Жыл бұрын
That’s actually a fantastic airforce. You have a stealth plane, the best tank buster/cas plane, and one of the best wild weasel planes
@chrisstopher2277
Жыл бұрын
@apersondoingthings5689 exactly think about if these planes stayed in the inventory and they kept on upgrading them. They still kind of use the F117 at least I see that flying a lot thru videos.
@RICKYCHAVEZ1980
8 ай бұрын
All I know is that they had better know how to fly them (the F-16's). Those are some powerful fighter jets and they'd better take good care of them, those are our babies.
@skinnybub5237
Жыл бұрын
The F-16 sure is a sexy beast.
@ndenise3460
8 ай бұрын
Speed though important costs a lot of gas. And to get.max speed of mach 2+ will require a clean airframe ie: no bombs high subsonic is the best you get with any reasonable range
@williamwilliam
Жыл бұрын
Along with Western supplied tanks, armored vehicles, etc, F-16 will add further to the scrap iron supply in the Ukraine.
@bodasactra
Жыл бұрын
The F-16s Ukraine will get will still have shorter range weapons and radar than the Russian fighters. In air to air combat Ukraine will still be blind to Russian fighters. First look, first shot and that's the ballgame.
@bobcostas9716
9 ай бұрын
As per the video (at 11:57) it has an anti-radiation HOMING sensor. The missiles do not "hone in". The word is "homing", like a pigeon, not "honing". They are radiation seeking, not radiation refining. It makes it hard to take your analysis seriously when you don't read your own prompts correctly.
@TheAidanodian
Жыл бұрын
16:48 R.I.P. Juice. Fly high.
@-KingOfKhaos
Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Russia thinks Ukraine is getting F16’s but is really getting a fleet of integrated F-22 and F-35’s
@onegemini420
Жыл бұрын
They are not the magical answer. They are a tool that if Ukraine can leverage properly, open up greater flexibility in their struggle against Russia. People were all abuzz when the first images of Bradleys and Leopards damaged on the battlefield appeared. They seemed to imagine that Western equipment would just sweep in and destroy Russie without taking any losses themselves. Which is why it is laughable sometimes when you think about the numbers sent. Ukraine should be receiving much much more.
@jakubw.2779
Жыл бұрын
Huh? I saw dozens of clips of ukrainian Su-25s during operations and i don't think i saw one without RWR system... All of them had it... Are they all functioning properly or at all is a separate case, but they definitely had the RWR indicator
@natebartels1444
Жыл бұрын
Wonder if France will also send Mirage 2000s too!
@Lord_Foxy13
Жыл бұрын
RIP "Juice"
@Spikeydelic
Жыл бұрын
@1:39 we dont have functioning F16 jets to give away. we have spare parts to maintain the 5 or so we have operating. Also our government has fallen a while ago, so the prime minister can not even grant those jets, because he is not the prime minister anymore... No F16's ..
@eljay9253
Жыл бұрын
Dutchy here: Only Zelensky said 42 F16 will be delivered. ~24 Dutch F16s is more likely however I don't doubt we will send every fight worthy example we can put together. Love seeing my tax dollars go to Ukraine. If Ukraine can bleed blood, i can bleed money. Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦
@dougfurr5217
Жыл бұрын
EA-18s!!!!!!!! Givem what they need.
@jacobbaumgardner3406
Жыл бұрын
I believe it was a slip of the tongue more than anything, but the R-73 is an IR guided missile.
@wntu4
Жыл бұрын
Wow, this appeared about the same day Juice was killed. RIP, sir.
@bowencreer3922
Жыл бұрын
Of course the effect of the f16 will depend on how the Ukrainians use it but it will be a benefit no matter what. They need airframes, period.
@timandsuzidickey9358
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. !! Well Done !
@bobthebomb1596
Жыл бұрын
Good to see a balanced appraisal of the capabilities the F16 will bring rather than the "It's the best/crap" offerings from lesser contributors.
@jtjames79
Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video so probably covers it but I would say the best part is plug-and-play with NATO munitions. There is a lot of an F-16 can do without getting close to the front line.
@sjsomething4936
Жыл бұрын
It’s one of the things I like about Alex, he keeps his commentary real, outlining both the good and bad as he has done here. I think these will be a valuable addition to Ukrainian capabilities, especially if used in the correct manner for operational support. It will mean that Russia doesn’t have the upper hand in some situations where they might currently.
@vic5015
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the biggest thing is that the F-16s can deploy most, if not all, of NATO's air-launched weapons. Of which there are *many* . No more jerry-rigging stuff to use NATO weapons with their Cold War-Era planes and getting only a fraction of the full capability of those weapons.
@michaelnewell9662
Жыл бұрын
one question he didn't raise is "who's going to fix these jets?". Ukrainian technicians will face a steep learning curve with a new jet, a new language, new alphabet, and a completely different design ethos in the F-16. additionally, recruiting foreign maintainers is complicated by the fact that anyone working on Ukrainian jets in Ukraine will be considered combatants and will be subject to Russian attempts to target and kill them.
@sjsomething4936
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelnewell9662 Ukrainian people are generally very good at speaking and reading English, I’ve worked with quite a number of them. There’s also the potential for them to be sent over the border into Poland for maintenance similar to what is happening with some of the tanks in use by Ukraine. Maintenance of the aircraft is also done very far from the front lines, the likelihood of capture by Russia is incredibly low, whether it’s foreign mechanics or Ukrainian.
@scottcooper4391
Жыл бұрын
No matter what kind of plane you have - it's maintenance and aircrew proficency that determines how effective it is.
@steveofthewildnorth7493
Жыл бұрын
That might be the most important piece of the puzzle. If an airplane is broke, it's not doing anyone any good. Safe to assume we and our NATO allies are working hard to make that a reality with Ukrainian maintainers. It's the biggest hurdle in my mind.
@issadraco532
Жыл бұрын
@@steveofthewildnorth7493 how exactly is that gonna happen? you have 30-40% of aircraft down for maintenance at any given time, and that's during peacetime in the united states with the best and brightest crews with half a century of experience operating the thing, and with the best infrastructure and logistics in the world and a budget of a trillion dollars per year and the full weight of the united states department of defense behind them, and with the manufacturer being a domestic company right around the corner when specialized expertise is needed, and with a whole big ass aircraft boneyard in arizona that is available for parts when needed. and guys still need to pull off miracles to get the planes back in the sky, and cannibalize some to put others back into working condition. what are those numbers gonna be like in ukraine with their shitty runways filled with patched up cruise missile potholes and everything? like 50 or 60% of the aircraft down for maintenance at any given time? especially since we're talking about second hand fifty year old aircraft here.. i don't even know how the heck anyone expects this whole thing to be set up in the poorest and most corrupt country on the continent while they are being invaded by retarded russian cavemen and their facilities are taking hits from apartment-seeking and kindergarten-seeking and church-seeking old soviet junk cruise missiles? not like there is a little IKEA manual for how to set up the whole network of infrastructure and logistics and maintenance needed to operate fourth generation aircraft. it would take a whole army of consultants and contractors from lockheed and dozens of other companies that would have to go there on the ground and spend years there to show them how to do things and put everything together for them. while once again dodging russian cruise missiles and risking their lives. i honestly doubt that it will happen. it would take probably like a decade. this whole thing of ukrainians and their poorly-trained soviet-minded military suddenly getting western tanks and western fourth generation aircraft seems more like a distraction and propaganda thing than anything else. more of a "hey looky here, genius ukrainian super-pilots learned to operate fourth generation western aircraft in a few months unlike those dummies in the west that need 3-5 years! aren't we great? we're basically up to western standards now, so you should let us join NATO and send your kids to die in ukraine and risk starting a nuclear war!" kind of thing.. remember how they said "oh yeah, 4 months tops, big game-changing western aircraft in ukraine by september for sure" back in may when they first announced this? well now we're in september and they can't even find more than six guys that would even fit the criteria needed for the job, and they don't speak a word of english, so turns out that they would need 4 months of training just in terms of english classes to learn the aircraft-related nomenclature. this means that they're not even gonna start the written and classroom portion of the training let alone step foot anywhere near the aircraft before sometime early next year. and even then.. what, they are gonna learn the 3-5 years worth of training that is needed to master this aircraft in a few months by talking with some little pilots from the netherlands that probably have like zero combat experience and that barely get like an hour or two of flight time per month, with their little fleet of like two squadrons of goddamn fifty year old second hand aircraft? with ukrainians that will still barely understand a word of what the guys are telling them, and with the netherlands pilots speaking with a heavy netherlands accent.. it just seems ridiculous. it's gonna be like 2026 or 2027 before they get even just what was promised so far, and even then those pilots are gonna be limited because the training will still have been rushed. they're even talking about recycling already-existing ukrainian pilots to make the process faster, but that will only lead to lower quality pilots once again because those guys in the netherlands will have to attempt to pull off miracles to get those ukrainian pilots to forget their soviet communist training and doctrine that they learned when they were taught on those old rusty soviet flying garbage cans that they currently operate. and that kind of stuff sounds nice in training and everything, but like always once they actually go into combat and have russian cavemen firing and vodka air defenses firing missiles at them, they are gonna panic and get overwhelmed and revert back to their old soviet instincts. just like their ground forces are doing now. talked about big combined arms western maneuver style warfare and big concentrated attacks to break through the caveman lines and big lightning fast advance to the sea bypassing the defenses and surrounding the cities to force the reds to give up the whole south and "maybe even crimea by the end of the summer, war over by the end of the year for sure".. and then their clueless incompetent soviet-minded commanders sent our donated stuff right into minefields in broad daylight pulling a page right out of the retarded soviet communist russian playbook losing a huge chunk of their western hardware on the very first day without achieving anything and instead setting the tone for what would become a huge shitshow of an offensive. and now they are panicking because they're about to come up on a whole year with zero progress and they know that they need to show something after 100 billion dollars and a an entire summer of fighting for a couple of unknown villages, so they are freaking out and reverting back to what feels the most cozy and what they are the most comfortable with and what they know best.. good old soviet retardation and trench warfare human wave attack style war of attrition tactics. their big new genius plan is to attempt to outlast and out-dumb and out-russia the russians at their own game and hope that they run out of ammunition and cannon fodder before they themselves run out of ammunition and cannon fodder to throw at the russian lines. just mindless uncoordinated attacks across the entire front with absolutely zero larger goal other than just grabbing whatever chunk of empty field or shitty unknown village that nobody cares about in a desperate attempt to get any gains on the map and have something to show next month when funding runs out hoping that congress will give them another shot and vote to renew the funding.. that's the danger of sending in untrained people that have no idea what they are doing. it doesn't matter what the equipment is. you could have a goddamn flying saucer from area 51, but if you use it like your usual old rusty soviet flying garbage can, it's gonna be a flying garbage can and only be able to get you flying garbage can style achievements and successes. this is why pentagon officials said for over a year that ukraine doesn't need western tanks and aircraft at this stage and can't afford them or maintain them or operate them with any degree of effectiveness given their soviet-minded poorly-trained military that lacks the proper infrastructure and logistics and maintenance to keep these things running. but of course, as always, some genius civilians in the white house and state department decided to get involved and ignore their generals and squeeze them by the balls and force them to humiliate themselves by going back on what they had been saying for a year and suddenly "oh yeah, 4 months of training, perfect, game-changing fourth generation aircraft in ukraine real soon" like something that you would expect straight out of the propaganda department in kiev. it's sad because if we were serious about helping ukraine, the generals and our leaders would ignore zelensky and his propaganda and theatrics and just continue to provide what everyone knows the ukrainians need.. things that actually make a difference on the battlefield but that might not be as fancy. meaning insane amounts of artillery shells, ammunition for the high mobility rocket artillery system, more man-portable anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles like javelins and TOWs and stingers, precision-guided munitions that are simple to use like excalibur rounds and those british cruise missiles, the more fancy versions of JDAMs like the extended range or laser-guided ones for the rare times when the ukrainian air force is able to launch them given that they usually have to hug the trees and fly underneath power lines which doesn't work for something that glides, more MRAPs and maybe even other "medium" complexity stuff like bradleys since they are plentiful and save lives, those ground-launched small diameter bombs that are fired from the same pods as the high mobility rocket artillery systems, tons of little suicide drones, interceptors for air defense systems, and i guess as much of the modern western air defense systems that can be spared after their guys get the actual proper training order to replace their old soviet junk that is running out of interceptors, and beyond that maybe some things like jammers and counter-battery radars and things of that nature that perhaps they might be able to learn to use over the longer term. most of this stuff isn't fancy or shiny except maybe the patriot air defense systems, but these are what make a difference on the battlefield. this is what changes the course of the war if you can sustain them and provide enough over a long enough period of time until the reds and their worthless monopoly currency goes into toilet paper status and their economy turns into a full-blown stone age vodka breadline economy and they are forced to pull out due to being unable to continue to sustain the 72 hour special goodwill gesture operation.
@nietkees6906
Жыл бұрын
That is important, but a good pilot won't increase your missile or radar range.
@michaelccozens
Жыл бұрын
@@issadraco532 Learn to edit, man.
@michaelccozens
Жыл бұрын
@@issadraco532 Interesting that you seem to assume that such limitations only apply to Ukraine, and not Russia, which currently has aircraft falling out of the sky across the nation for no apparent reason at all.
@silentblackhole
9 ай бұрын
Thank you to the great nations of The Netherlands and Denmark in your massive important F-16 fighter jet donations! They will start to give the air support they deserve!
@antonytimbrell3317
4 ай бұрын
Dream on buster.
@okcstormchaser
Жыл бұрын
I like how you put it to be honest, I was curious which blocks they were getting because it does mean a big ass difference, so good job on letting us know about their missiles and how ours work exactly now and when they get the F-16s. Plus how you explained the 3 modes on the harm system, that'll help them for sure now, plus they'll put the amraam to good use plus the harm, I'm sure once the word is out they'll definitely send out their newest to shoot some down, which sucks but it'll be inevitable that they definitely try, if they succeed I hope the next pilots know exactly where to exact the revenge with harm then a jasm
@bubbeN999
Жыл бұрын
I hope there was at least somewhere in the fine print that peoples "aid for ukraine" will be used as revenge. how bout rebuilding instead of sending million dollar fireworks into innocent peoples homes? just a thought. Ukraine does not have the "cleanest" sleight when it comes to "post invasion behavior"
@GegeDxD
Жыл бұрын
Sandbox honest? 😂 Are you American?
@maltheri9833
Жыл бұрын
@@GegeDxDAnd proud of it 🤌
@prfwrx2497
Жыл бұрын
It's basically 50+ of block 52 F16s being sent over. It'll allow the full use of AGM88s, enables use OF AIM120-D and AIM9-M, and probably could be used to launch SCALP EG as well. Also opens the door for JASSM. It's going to double the Ukrainian Air Force fleet of combat jet.
@jaccororman3069
9 ай бұрын
The Dutch planes were top of the list equipped with Block 52 upgrades, and their ready state was at 80+ % at all times due to the massive amount of parts and equipment kept by the 312, 313, and 315 squadrons, and trained in the US maintenance teams, read my comment :)
@elektro860
Жыл бұрын
one of the things that weren't mentioned is the HARM pod combined with the sniper or litening targeting pod, now I am not sure if Ukraine will get access to these pods, but the HARM pod can locate enemy radar sites with precision making it easy to find the precise location with a targeting pod and then relay this location to strike craft to attack it or even just use artillery fire instead
@terrymichael5821
Жыл бұрын
I have no doubt the US/NATO will provide both Lantirn & Litening Pods. USAF/NATO has been switching to more modern Sniper ATPs for a long time now.
@SabreSix1980
Жыл бұрын
I think it's likely they will get these pods from the nations that are going to supply the F-16's. After all they are transitioning to F-35, which has those capabilities integrated, so they won't need them anymore. Same with the weapons for that matter. The Amraams and Sidewinders Denmark, the Netherlands and Norway use are for external carriage, not the models for internal carriage as would be needed on F-35. What I am wondering is if the F-16 Ukraine will get will get a coat of Have Glass V. We know the Danish are applying them to their own F-16's, but I wonder if the Dutch and Norwegian jets will get it as well. That would be a serious advantage imo.
@glibsonoran
Жыл бұрын
Is the meteor/F16 integration program still running? That would be a nice touch.
@Typexviiib
Жыл бұрын
@@glibsonoranim not sure if the blocks of f16 likely to be given would have the radar range to make meteors more useful than amraams
@glibsonoran
Жыл бұрын
@@Typexviiib Meteor, at least by published stats, has twice the "No Escape Zone" range of AMRAAMS (60Km vs 30Km). Not surprising since it is a later design, Both are well within F16's radar range, and this may prove the more important statistic vs maximum range.
@karabenomar
Жыл бұрын
I particularly like you pointing on the gap between official numbers and actual capabilities. It's a thing missing from many analyses about Russia.
@lamwen03
Жыл бұрын
Because it's a wild ass guess.
@kindnuguz
Жыл бұрын
Alex with a very respectable voice in the aviation community. I love Alex's honest opinion and this is why I love Sandboxx
@patrickbec68
Жыл бұрын
Respectable lol. He’s walking encyclopedia of ignorance.
@cahg3871
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickbec68please clarify your opinion-I would like to know what data you used to make that statement.
@MemeManiaYT
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickbec68lmao he said Russia can’t develop air superiority, he fails to mention how different countries have different tasks/ equipments they consider better than the other. It’s like me saying the USA can’t develop advanced air defense system and powerful artillery because they’re superior.
@patrickbec68
Жыл бұрын
@@cahg3871 see my comment elsewhere.
@youknowvin
8 ай бұрын
I was with Texas Instruments from 1978 to 1993 before they stupidly sold their defense group to Raytheon. During that time I had the opportunity to work on HARM, Javelin, and TOW programs. I was happy to hear you get it right about HARM's 3 modes of operation. One thing that is not widely reported is that even some of the earliest versions had the ability to fire over the shoulder at targets behind the plane. You also correctly stated that the missile could continue to targets after their radar shut down. This capability was demonstrated in 1986 in the Gulf of Sidra. There was a Russian ship in port and they had advisors on the ground advising the Lybians to shut down their radars when HARM was launched. They got a rude awakening and there were some reports of Russian casualties. Minutes later the dark Russian ship lit up like a Christmas tree to make itself visible perhaps to avoid being targeted as it took no hostile actions. It was an extremely accurate missile. There were pictures showing a 3-4' diameter dish with a hole and fin pattern in the upper left quadrant. Supposed we were tongue in cheek chided for destroying too much govt equipment with our unarmed test rounds. I don't know a lot of other details about HARM as I was involved mainly with test equipment and factory automation but we did receive briefings from time to time. We were told that it was one of the few missile systems that actually saw combat while it was in production. TI actually got an extra contract for 2000 HARM units tor replenish stockpile after heavy usage in Desert Storm.
@Georgi_Slavov
8 ай бұрын
I wonder if one radar is turned on and a HARM is launched at it and then this radar is shut down and another, more distant,out if range, is turned on, will the missile re-lock on it?So that it is lead away in a HARMless direction and expires before it reaches this other radar.
@JMurph2015
Жыл бұрын
I think the Ukrainians will do alright with them. We've seen that they are extremely motivated to learn and to be totally honest that might be the greatest power there is. They will make mistakes and just like the Leo2 and Bradleys, the F-16 will not be a silver bullet. However, like the Leo2 and Bradleys, I suspect there will be a lot of grateful Ukrainian soldiers and families for our hardware getting them back alive where they otherwise would not.
@fedirbokhovchuk7022
Жыл бұрын
totally agree! thank you from Ukraine
@tervilsnaider3103
Жыл бұрын
F16 will definitely change the war to me due to the fact that Ukraine barely has aircraft they just need to ace these training
@milaro222
Жыл бұрын
The F-16 will only lead to a longer war, more soldiers will die, and their families will be unhappy and poor, no one will be grateful for the f-16, because they are inferior in all respects to Russian aircraft.
@notmyself2533
Жыл бұрын
I think they been frustrated how slow it been to get heavier weapons with all the excuses
@godhimself478
Жыл бұрын
Yeah true and they’ve only lost like 5 Leo 2s so there very good at using these weapons it’s just the western politicians are like hmm how about an excuse as an American it pisses me off
@teaser6089
Жыл бұрын
With 42 F16s The Netherlands truly is one of the biggest contributors to the material for Ukraine!
@z_actual
Жыл бұрын
not all of them fly, many are hangar queens used for parts
@FancyPantsOnFire
Жыл бұрын
Russia shot down a Boeing 777 full of Dutch civilians. The Dutch have not forgotten. Nor have they forgiven. They have been waiting for payback. Time has come.
@steveofthewildnorth7493
Жыл бұрын
@@z_actual Still a huge dollar outlay for a nation the size of The Netherlands. Even if it is sunk cost since that's money spent long ago and they're replacing them with F-35's anyway.
@z_actual
Жыл бұрын
@@steveofthewildnorth7493 yes it is, it is also characteristic of the rest of Europe as regards NATO. The state of this equipment has been allowed to run down in an uneven manner, and Ukraine will need considerable help to assess the health of and subsequent safety of these airframes, and prepare them for combat use.
@goodputin4324
Жыл бұрын
In return Kiev provides Amsterdam's red light district with new young girls free of charge 😂😂😂
@pkt1213
Жыл бұрын
I've always heard the Wild Weasels have a higher performance engine so they can lift the pilot's giant brass balls.
@jakhaughton1800
Жыл бұрын
A bit out of context but I remember being at Farnborough Air Show in the late 80s. The MIG29 was there as well as the F16. Both pilots pushed their planes to the limit. It was more than impressive from both. A treasured memory.
@forfun6273
Жыл бұрын
Which was more impressive in your eyes at the time? I’d assume you would have an American bias. But the mig-29 on paper seems like a bad ass plane.
@Wahba.
Жыл бұрын
@@forfun6273honestly if the Mig29 kept getting upgrades like the F16 did it would probably be the better fighter , but currently the F16 has much better avionics and radar systems which makes the Mig 29 better handling obsolete in head to head
@trolleriffic
Жыл бұрын
@@Wahba. At the time the MiG-29 had some impressive features. It could go very fast, even at low altitude and had a high TWR. I think it had an early type of helmet-mounted sight which could be used to lock enemy aircraft and the R-73 IR missiles it carried were much more capable than Western missiles of that era, being able to engage targets at much larger angles off the axis of the seeker as well as being more manoeuvrable. After German reunification, Western experts were able to examine a number of East German MiG-29s along with their weapons and it came as quite a shock that the R-73 was so good. This revelation led in part to a new generation of Western IR missiles with new technologies such as imaging seeker heads and dramatically improved performance.
@Wahba.
Жыл бұрын
@@trolleriffic isn't the Mig-35 an upgraded version of the Mig-29 or am I way off ? they look very similar
@Rex_R_Rodney
Жыл бұрын
@@trollerifficTWR?
@IRONIC1688
Жыл бұрын
The Viper can use the AGM88 in PB mode where you need to know the general location and type of emitter you go against. HAS mode where you use the harm as a seeker and still have to limit your attack to specific emitter type. EOM mod where the Viper can launch the Harm off bore. If the Vipers are coming with and HTS pod (Harm targeting sys) then it's game changer in SEAD for Ukraine. Also correction, you said by mistake that the R73 is radar guided, it is a HOB IR missile.
@DIREWOLFx75
Жыл бұрын
"Also correction, you said by mistake that the R73 is radar guided, it is a HOB IR missile." No, it is an all-aspect IR missile. "then it's game changer in SEAD for Ukraine." *sigh* Yes, yes and Ukraine will march into Moscow before the end of 2022, we heard that before. And F-16s are magical fairies that can are harder to hit with SAMs than HIMARS, which western SAMs cannot hit at all, and the Russians are completely incompetent, because obviously trashing most of a 700 thousand army with 100 thousand offensively must make the smaller force utterly incompetent oh yay... Maybe stop swalloving the copium so easily?
@fn509delaware4
Жыл бұрын
What do you think about the retired US pilots that said they would fly for Ukraine, that could change things...... Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
@mj_SR22
Жыл бұрын
RIP Juice, the Ukrainian pilot mentioned here was confirmed deceased today. Sounds like a crash, not a KIA situation, but they're investigating it. He was one of their premier pilots.
@Spaatz77
Жыл бұрын
I just saw that earlier today. Kind of stunned since watching this story. Ukraine needs every truly capable pilot like Juice they can get. This a real tragedy for his family and country. But, adversity only makes Ukraine stronger. God bless all the brave people of Ukraine. They will prevail.
@TurtleChad1
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Picla_Peremohy
Жыл бұрын
Ми повертаємося до життя
@jdogdarkness
Жыл бұрын
The main variant going to UA is the F16AM(MLU). The most critical capabilities it brings are NATO standard data links, allowing GBAD & NATO AWACS to guide or target missiles or aircraft interchangeably. I'd say this is indisputably an advantage UA will receive, regardless what they do short of kamikazing lol
@VisheshBangotra
Жыл бұрын
so NATO is joining the war? or Ukraine getting AWACS too?
@DIREWOLFx75
Жыл бұрын
"an advantage" Do you even understand the fact that Russian datalinks are considerably more effective than the Nato-standard? Or the fact that even the Ukraine's old MiG-29s already had datalinks, although the Soviet standard model rather than the drastically improved Russian version which is based on the much better datalink that was developed for the MiG-31. "NATO AWACS to guide or target missiles or aircraft interchangeably" Uh-huh... And the fact that doing so would be a direct declaration of war by Nato against Russia and make those AWACS instantly legal targets for Russia, you ignore that how exactly?
@jdogdarkness
Жыл бұрын
@DIREWOLFx75 ur so clearly a Russian stooge, I'm not even gonna engage with u. Have a good day lol. *#Copium*
@dude3278
Жыл бұрын
@@DIREWOLFx75LOL okay Russian bot
@DIREWOLFx75
Жыл бұрын
@@dude3278 Neither Rrussian nor a bot. Okay, mr IQ equal to shoesize?
@orientalcaesar
Жыл бұрын
The F-16 and F-15 EX can be said to be non-stealth fighter aircraft that have capabilities close to stealth aircraft. To anticipate the limitations and weaknesses of the Russian radar system and missile range, maybe Russia will strengthen the jamming system. Ps : Sorry, English is not my native language, hopefully it's still understandable.
@godhimself478
Жыл бұрын
In short they’ve been upgraded with systems that make on par with stealth besides the stealth
@hunterwilson6703
Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the F-15Ex to be fully implemented the originals are my favorite and I was glad to hear they were bringing it back
@DaBurntToaster
Жыл бұрын
LOL the EX? close to stealth? fuck no bud, dont care how much ram you put on that thing, I'll never believe anyone who says that airframe is anything close to stealth
@Rex_R_Rodney
Жыл бұрын
Your English is very good. Ì can't tell you from anyone else. In fact you're awesome.
@godhimself478
Жыл бұрын
@@DaBurntToaster the systems like radar are close to stealth the air frame is not but you clearly don’t know how to read
@InHellBaby1
Жыл бұрын
Netherlands and Denmark stepping up. Well done.
@charleschristner7123
Жыл бұрын
Norway too now.
@IrishCaesar
Жыл бұрын
They know those planes only exist to stop Russian aggression
@hagalazmultiverze3411
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they forgot to add a clause saying, that Mette comes with the planes....
@madanbisht6
Жыл бұрын
@@IrishCaesar🤡🤡
@charleschristner7123
Жыл бұрын
That would be a clear escalation as female politicians are a weapon of mass destruction.
@lesley-annemclelland857
Жыл бұрын
I have heard that Norway have also added their name to the list of countries preparing to supply Ukraine F-16's. This news will add another 12 F-16's to the current list of aircraft which will bring the proposed number of Ukrainian F-16's squadrons up to 6.
@thotmorgana
Жыл бұрын
They will probably get the airplanes in batches, a few at first and than more later. But more importantly, I heard somewhere that currently only 8 ukrainian pilots are trained on the f16. So more pilots will need to be trained after this batch as well.
@thotmorgana
Жыл бұрын
@@Teutonic_Nobility Lol they already got advanced missiles for these aircrafts before getting the aircrafts themselves. Just look at HARM missiles for a start. JDAM as well etc.
@thotmorgana
Жыл бұрын
@@Teutonic_Nobility Lol they will not be destroyed. From the 150 leopards only 9 got destroyed so far in 12 weeks of assaults with them. Also all Russia's missiles send to Kiev are being consistently shot down. Russia will not be easily able to destroy any f16's. Ofcourse in prolonged warfare some of them will be lost eventually but it will all be worth. Also Ukraine would not get modern artillery, tanks, long range weapons and fighter jets either. They already have the HARM Missiles along with some other missiles. It is only a matter of time till they will get the other missiles.
@ramblingthroughhistory
Жыл бұрын
@@Teutonic_NobilityI mean that can be said for anything ? It’s war shit will be destroyed so what? Also that says that those air bases won’t be defend by air defense, can air defenses fail , of course anything can fail but I don’t think they will all be destroyed just out of now where, second I’ve seen more of a talking point to use them to shoot down missiles and stuff more then dog fighting which could help move around air defenses and or take pressure off, personally I think the option of using as a sort of “air defense” against drones and missiles is better !
@ramblingthroughhistory
Жыл бұрын
I mean it is claimed that those hyper sonic have been shot down with patriot so idk about no defense, and I mean Ukraine will probably get like 30-60ish planes maybe ? so decent number and this might not be the last time F-16s are donated idk if you really thought about that, also its been 18 months at war attrition has not been looking great @@Teutonic_Nobility
@devnandannair2336
Жыл бұрын
9:49 no variant of the R-73 that is mounted on aircraft is radar guided.
@travelinman70
Жыл бұрын
Juice, Rest in Peace brother...
@georgemancuso9597
Жыл бұрын
Support will be a major problem, large teams are required to maintain the F16 after each mission. F16 also required long runways which will limit their basing.
@DIREWOLFx75
Жыл бұрын
Yay, FINALLY i find ONE SINGLE person that brings this up. Sheesh, doesn't anyone look at reality? F-16 has massive ground crew and facilities requirements. Essentially, only a rare few of Ukraine's airbases can handle them at all, and only with difficulty. Making them easy targets.
@doithimaceabhard7457
Жыл бұрын
@@DIREWOLFx75don't ignore that we've been talking about this issue for over a year now. Plenty of time to designate safe airfields and upgrade them appropriately. And the same applies to logistics and maintenance, yes they're obstacles but there are also many trained maintainers over several countries who may join Ukraine as 'advisors' without having to leave their own militaries
@doithimaceabhard7457
Жыл бұрын
Which they've also had over a year to consider and work on
@jonydory622
6 ай бұрын
F-16 will be located in Roumania and Poland. You’re to slow
@michaeldenesyk3195
Жыл бұрын
In the video snips you have of the SU-25, there is an RWR just to the right of the HUD. They do have a RWR. Reference time stamps at 10:30
@WinnipegCarSpotter
Жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment lol. What the pilot says is factually correct, he won't get launch indications with his ancient SPO-15, though he most certainly does have an RWR.
@rekxii
6 ай бұрын
@@WinnipegCarSpotterModern Su25 like the Su25T and Sm3 have a better RWR that will
@KR-ql8gl
Жыл бұрын
if ukraine recieves f16s before Bulgaria which it PURCHASED FOR REAL EXPENSIVE PRICE 3 years ago or even more, that would be outragous
@matthewhuszarik4173
Жыл бұрын
The Danes and Dutch tend to be very conscientious people I imagine the maintenance and upgrades on their F-16 were done as required.
@Rob_F8F
Жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about Dutch and Danish maintenance efforts so can say nothing about them. That said, Germans are also known for their fastidiousness, however, with decades of defense spending reductions, the German armed forces are generally in pretty rough condition. There may be a cultural imperative to maintain equipment, but if the spare part is not in the depot, all the "trains run on time" focus isn't going to replace it.
@MarcosElMalo2
Жыл бұрын
Maintenance is important, but so are airframe hours. The frames of these aircraft endure a lot of stress over their lifetimes, leading to eventual metal fatigue and failure. When an aircraft reaches its maximum amount of hours, you might as well scrap it or risk pilot lives. I’m pretty sure that Denmark and the Nederland are giving all the viable aircraft, but they were already putting some them into mothballs (which implies minimal maintenance).
@knoll9812
Жыл бұрын
F16 will not be dogfighting su35
@MrCABman1972
4 ай бұрын
Information tell that all the F-16 going to Ukraine are being somewhat modernized and the radar are being upgraded and will be more powerful.
@matthewhuszarik4173
4 ай бұрын
@@MarcosElMalo2 There is a lot you can do to extend the lives of airframes that the venerable B-52s can attest to.
@two-newyorkers7584
Жыл бұрын
Awsome video today Alex, your knowledge of all aircraft is impressive, im kind of new to your channel and im not sure if you have done this yet but i would love to see you do a video comparison of the American Apache vs the KA 52 i would love to learn the differences of both aircraft and there weapon sytems...
@devnandannair2336
Жыл бұрын
19:10 even though the Su-35S can definitely work better in the one circle due to high AOA and thrust vectoring capabilities, the F-16 has better performance in a sustained turn two circle fight, also thrust vectoring does not usually matter in BVR so in general, a modernized F-16 is equal or better than the Su-35.
@hpb5495
Жыл бұрын
R-37
@CptJistuce
Жыл бұрын
@@hpb5495"According to Ukrainian pilots the R-37M isn't achieving a lot of "hard kills", the destruction of actual Ukrainian aircraft. However their launch forces pilots to abandon their current missiles and take evasive action." The F-16 brings fire-and-forget options to Ukraine, so that "abandon their current missiles" thing is about to go out the window.
@nietkees6906
Жыл бұрын
In BVR the most modern F-16 is likely better than the SU-35S, but the F-16A MLU that Ukraine will get has a much smaller and older mechanically scanned radar which is definitely inferior the the more modern and larger Russian PESA radar.
@simonleonard8154
Жыл бұрын
@@CptJistucemission kill vs actually killing aircraft and pilot. Looking forward to more survivable and higher mission success rates in the skies over Ukraine!
@luigimrlgaming9484
Жыл бұрын
@@CptJistuceWhat if they can’t get in range before they’re fired on?
@svendtveskg5719
8 ай бұрын
Western trainers of Ukranian forces have been very suprised how fast the Ukranians learn. That's the difference motivation does.
@trentk268
Жыл бұрын
Practice makes perfect. That's been standard military doctrine for thousands of years. Thanks for a really good update on a subject that most of us are struggling to understand.
@eriktheblue3496
Жыл бұрын
The F-16 4th Gen was two generations ahead of Russian hardware and software during wars in the gulf. Electronic warfare is easily teachable to Ukrainian forces and they'll turn the tides so much faster than anticipated. The air suppression teams have turn the Russian frunk type vehicles into flying ducks in November. Now, they're using Iranian and NK hardware because they are getting the living $#!t out of them 🇺🇲🇺🇦
@janiaf
Жыл бұрын
At 16:50 you mention a Ukrainian pilot with the call sign Juice. Unfortunately today it was announced by the Ukrainian MoD that Juice and two other pilots died as a consequence of a collision of two Ukrainian training jets.🙏
@manolog.9962
Жыл бұрын
Great video once again. I love your content and your presentation of the topics. I was wondering if the US Air Force Weapons School will now develop a "Yellow" Flag for all the newly trained Ukrainian pilots once they're done with their training? That would be vital in giving these Ukrainian pilots some live action and vital experience in the F-16 before they're sent back to the war.
@Picla_Peremohy
Жыл бұрын
That would be Sierra Hotel for them. Most definitely.
@fiendishrabbit8259
Жыл бұрын
Correction: At 19:54 you say the "F-16s that Ukraine are going to get" will have AN/APG-68. That's not true. The AN/APG-68 is the radar on the F-16 C/D. The F-16 A/B MLU (that was used by Denmark, Netherlands and Norway) uses the APG-66(V)2A. Having a detection range of about 160km. Overall they're still going to be at a disadvantage against russias MiG-31s, but the AIM-120 is going to close the gap. You've mentioned the HARM and the AIM-120 (where the greatest advantage is that an F-16 firing an AIM-120 won't need to maintain radar lock, unlike the R-27), but there are several other advantages. a. Greater air-to-ground radar capability, giving Ukraine a better ability to counter Ka-52 helicopters. b. Greater capability with other programmable munitions like the JDAM. c. Ability to use several munitions that have yet to be provided to Ukraine, for example the F-16 can fire JASSM (one of US air-launched cruise missiles. And the US has older JASSM in great numbers and are replacing it with a newer version).
@Whiskey11Gaming
Жыл бұрын
No mention of the HARM Targeting System or the datalink capabilities with NATO AWACS flying in Poland or in the Black Sea... two big oversights in the improved situational awareness the Viper has.
@philippedemoulin2902
Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, great video again. I'd like you to cover the differences between US and French Air doctrines, if there are? Thank you for very well documented analysis.
@garbagemanstacking
Жыл бұрын
Just wondering what your opinion is .... do you think giving Ukraine 30 older Apache helicopters would make a bigger difference than F-16 since they're designed specifically to go after tanks and other armored vehicles?
@t8ntpliscan468
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that really depend on the operation at the time? I'm not any sort of expert, but aren't they used in tandem as well?
@garbagemanstacking
Жыл бұрын
@@t8ntpliscan468 I'm no expert either but I'm just thinking the two biggest threats that the ukrainians are dealing with right now are landmines and armored vehicles
@t8ntpliscan468
Жыл бұрын
@@garbagemanstacking I see, now. I wasn't really in that line of thought. Makes sense
@nietkees6906
Жыл бұрын
Helicopters have proven to be very vulnerable in this war. They wouldn't be able to operate over enemy territory and thus don't have many opportunities to hit tanks.
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