Great video. No surprise, they're all really good. The experiment with the fan blowing over the jars of fuel is fantastic. All sorts of science happening there. The reason there was more condensation on the fuel with the ethanol is because ethanol is more volatile. It "wants" to evaporate more than the gasoline does. In fact, the ethanol "pushes" on the air with a pressure of 1.2 psi whereas the gasoline pushes with only 0.3 psi (a.k.a. saturation pressure, for a 77 F day in Florida). When liquids evaporate, they tend to cool down. Pour some rubbing alcohol on your hand, it feels cold. Since the ethanol in the fuel has a higher vapor pressure, it evaporates faster, and cools more, resulting in more condensation. You could repeat the experiment with thermometers in each jar and see the cooling effect. Every little bit helps keeping my old Mercruiser 470 limping along. Thanks for keeping us all informed.
@bocabretts123
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that great explanation
@boatsandoutboards9070
8 ай бұрын
That's the idea behind it, but some parts are missing. gasoline is NOT a single standard molecule like ethanol. The composition of gasoline depends on where you live, the climate and temperature, and the refinery that produces it.
@zacharyirving5080
3 жыл бұрын
I have run ethanol fuel in my boats for years and really never have issues, but I'm only running a 20 gallon system and like you said, tank size makes a big difference. I also run my boat practically year round. If I know I'm putting the boat away for a few months, I run my last tank or two as ethanol free. In my experience, the biggest problem is the fuel sitting, whether its a 20 gallon tank in a car or a 200 gallon tank in a boat. If you use your boat often and have a decent fuel water separator in your fuel system and actually perform regular maintenance, you'll likely never have a problem. If you're one of those people that's lucky to get out 4 or 5 times a year, you're best off sticking to ethanol free. Just my $0.02. I'm an auto/diesel tech and I'm currently working on a truck that's been sitting for a few years, ethanol gas has wreaked its havoc on the entire fuel system. every line leaks and i'm pretty sure the tank is about rusted through from the inside.
@obryan240
3 жыл бұрын
I fuel up about once a week using whoever is cheaper. Never had any motor issue at all in almost 30 years. My boat is out a couple times a week year round. Current motor is a 2001 25hp Yamaha.
@Fishstycz
3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting and well documented vid. Thanks. Here in South Africa, we are supposed to have ethanol in our fuel, but it seems that the legislation requiring it somehow stalled. After a bit of research, I'm really not sure if we have any ethanol in our petrol now. Nevertheless, we also on occasions fill up with absolute crud at the fuel station. Add to that, crossing the border into Mozambique (many of us take our boats offshore there) for example, the fuel becomes quite interesting and often doesn't even smell like petrol. For these reasons, any boat I've owned that had a built in fuel tank, has had the tank stripped out and replaced with smaller portable fuel tanks. This way, the fuel quality can be monitored better and there's much less opportunity for water ingress. Add to this, a well maintained water trap/filter and you feel a lot safer out on the water. It's a hassle, but well worth it IMO.
@unbekannternr.1353
3 жыл бұрын
A very smart, greyhaired engineer helped this issue on a friends boat by putting a lighter to a 'fuelsoaked' piece of rag. No fire, no flames but the smell of fuel was still in that just wet rag. Since that day i leave my fuel tanks dry and my fuel stored in canisters. And they lived happily ever after...
@miguellawrence549
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I try to tell everyone that I know with a boat. I work for a oil and fuel delivery company. I only use 100% gasoline in my boat.
@AnthonyAngler
3 жыл бұрын
unfortunately. i cant get any on long island
@PayNoTaxes0GetNoVote
3 жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyAngler - That's what Communism does, limits choices.
@TXAG81
3 жыл бұрын
I've been fortunate to have ethanol free gas available on the Texas and Louisiana coast where I fish. Also use Yamaha Ring Free and fuel stabilizer with every fill up. My tank has a 72 gallon capacity, but most trips I only put 45 gallons in and try to burn most of it up. I also run my engine monthly in the off season to keep the fluids moving. Never had fuel related problems. Knock on wood.
@timbarnett3898
3 жыл бұрын
Growing up fishing on Willamette River we had a grange where we got aviation gas, oh baby!
@kenpendergraft8997
3 жыл бұрын
I remember the Grange!!! That was an awesome place!
@Fireship1
3 жыл бұрын
Gas it up with some 100LL. Nice thing is if you have fuel leaks, the blue stains act as a telltale.
@spielop
3 жыл бұрын
I drain the VST and injector rail any time the boat is going to sit for any period of time. This draining seems to prevent the injector clogging and fuel pump issues I was having before.
@patrickhall2971
2 жыл бұрын
Last winter I attended a boat show seminar put on by an instructor at a local Marine Maintenance Technology program. His assertion was that the main issue with ethanol is that it's a solvent (being made of alcohol). He said that if you always run ethanol in your boat since new, you won't have any problems. However, if your boat is older and has never run ethanol before and then you introduce it, it can loosen up lots of sediment which then gets into the engine.
@Fireship1
3 жыл бұрын
I can only get 10% ethanol fuel at gas stations here in NJ. They do not sell ethanol free fuel anywhere around here. My only other choice would be to buy fuel on the water. Unfortunately, I’m not ready to give up a kidney to afford an on water fill up!
@captpepin
3 жыл бұрын
Consistent use of your boat is the best way to prevent problems especially fuel problems
@apackwestbound5946
3 жыл бұрын
Of course your are right. As you know not everybody can boat comfortably year around. One long term storage option would be to empty the fuel tank & cap off the vent(s). I think somebody even makes desiccants designed for this purpose. Having a good filter/water separator is important. Avoiding the problem is the best strategy; buy clean fuel and consistent use you your boat burning through all the fuel supply regularly.
@CapeAnnImages
3 жыл бұрын
When ethanol was first introduced here (Gloucester, Ma) I was about 10 miles offshore in my Sea Pro 21' W/A with an 81 gallon tank powered by a 2 stroke 200hp Suzuki. The engine died but was able to get it running barely. With a couple of starts & stops only managing about 4 knots I made it in. It tuned out the ethanol was loosening all the junk in the tank and clogging the fuel pickup. I replaced the pick up and all the fuel lines and filters and never had a problem again.
@trumanpowell7376
3 жыл бұрын
Diesel fuel is hydroscopic also so you may need to use an additive. The best thing is to use it up when it is "fresh". Good article!! Thanks.
@lildeena1
3 жыл бұрын
This was great advice and explanations. The only thing I disagree with was putting rec90 on top of some ethanol fuel. You will always have remaining water and crummy fuel in your tank doing that.
@pualsmall5378
6 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 Suntracker 22ft with Mercury 150. When I bought the boat its has about 40 hours. The prior owner only used standard pump gas boat had about 10 gallons in it when I bought it. I ran that gas out and now I travel 75 miles one way to the only NON ETHONAL fuel station Ill fill up 7 5 gal cans 6 for the boat and 1 for my mower and my little Honda Monkey I also fill my car and it runs 100% better with way better mpg. My boat also seems to start and run better with less RPM. Im hooked on NE fuel for my boat
@ronwallace7563
3 жыл бұрын
I've always known this, however, I've never seen it demonstrated this way. This was super awesome to see! Thanks for posting.
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@danieln3999
3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. It was a night in day difference in how my yamaha behaved after I pulled and dumped the tank and went to no ethanol and a spin on fuel filter. I haven't had to mess with my carbs since then when before it was almost an every year battle.
@samruiz9075
3 жыл бұрын
I just sold a Silverton with a 450 gallon gas thank, we in Mexico don't even have a non ethanol gas so maybe thats the problem that I didn't solve with the boat, in some point it was loosing power or even shut off and thanks to your video I may find the solution. Later but happy to learn
@mikecorleone6797
3 жыл бұрын
Here in California it’s basically all e15 fuels.. even at the fuel docks mostly.. if i let my boat sit for a month I typically get about a gallon or 2 of water in my tank.. my water filters manage to grab most of it and the fuel treatment does the rest.. i have 3 large water separators in line on my boat with large plastic see through caps on the bottom of each filter. I believe they are diesel filters but they work. They each have little drain valves so i can hold a bottle under them and drain the water out easily
@ShannoMan90
3 жыл бұрын
I've had several boats. The first few I owned I ran 87 with ethanol. Nothing but problems... switched to shell 91 non ethanol. Never had a motor or fuel issue since. Worth the extra $$ to look after your pride and joy. A happy motor is a happy boater!!
@darrickiam
3 жыл бұрын
I put 93 in my boat. I might start using no ethanol
@ShannoMan90
3 жыл бұрын
@@darrickiam boats don't need the high octane usually. Depends on the motor. They just don't like ethanol
@True__North
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you 👍 Fuel evaporation rate is incredible, thank you for showing this test. I'm using 95 octane fuel for my Mercruiser 3.0 inboard engine, it burns cleaner and less carbon deposits.
@mpatterson1410
3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a boat that has sat on a trailer for 3-4 years (never ran). Had no idea how much fuel was in it, but was told it was "empty". Put 10 gal of non-ethanol fuel in it, then drove it around the block to stir it up. Drained it. What did I get? 11 gallons of water and 15 gallons of fuel. And when I say "water", I mean . . . crystal clear H20. Like you got it from a faucet. Almost no smell to it, either.
@lorenzhaschtmann6727
3 жыл бұрын
You'll find condensed Water only on free surfaces of the tank, espacially on Aluminium tanks. So you can minimize the problems by always filling up your tank to the top.
@bobc8694
Жыл бұрын
When he said to not have much fuel in the tank is better. I have a power sports business and have been in the same location since 1979 and we store about 250 boats every winter from about September to the following spring may ish along with winterize close to 1400 boat's a year and we have done research on water getting in the fuel tank during storage for over 15 years and is still something we pay attention to still to this day.. we have found boats with built in fuel tanks 20+gallons of fuel left half full for the winter 9 times out of 10 that boat will have water in the bottom of the tank in the spring. We have seen as much as 4 gallons of water accumulate over the winter... We have done this with the same boat the next year and had the customer fill the tank before he brought it in for winterize and storage.. the customers didn't really think it was going to make a difference.. but it did not have a drop of water that spring. And he didn't have to spend any money having us get the water out and running correctly.. but of course the next year he wanted to help us in a way but he was hoping to prove that's not what was happening.lol... so I was all for it so it was stored in the exact same place as it had been the last 2 years.. so spring show's up and time to get his boat out for the season.. I had the customer come over and actually help get it prepared for the water. So I asked him do you just want to start it up or if he wants to pump the bottom of the fuel tank? If there's water in the bottom and we start it the water is going to end up in the carburator and it will have to be taken apart and cleaned if that happens.. so he said let's pump the tank first like I wanted to do from the start... So anyways almost 2 gallons of water wass pumped out!!! So with all that said, I would like to add that this has been done with well over 50 boat and other vehicles of some sort for over 15 years on everything from boats,built in tanks and portable tanks, jet skis , snowmobiles, and many other things with a engine.. so now if a boat is stored at our shop and the tank isn't full we pump the tank before we start it up in the spring. And let's not forget that I make money by cleaning water out of the fuel system and cleaning the carburator's . So in the long run we lose money but we have very happy storage customers and are very loyal to are shop. Not just from this experiment but many other reasons.. it's not all about the money at are shop it's about doing the right thing every time you deal with someone!!!! Anyways this is just what we have found out over the years. And the new fuels I still like better than the fuel 10-12 years ago since It doesn't varnish up as bad.... and stink up the hole shop lol... Hopefully this information will help so other people and families save time and money by trying this especially if you have ever had water in your tank come spring time... Have a great day... Bob....
@greggo502
9 ай бұрын
@@bobc8694 Bob your post is very interesting. I kept going back and forth weather to fill my 40 gallon tank or leave it close to empty. What I did was pump out the old fuel that was in it (bought the boat used,had no ideal how old thew fuel was) I then poured in 8 gallons of true fuel with some startron. Reasoning was no nonethanol fuel where I live. Also I called a marina and was told never get fuel from a marina at the end of the season. If I filled the tank I would still have 40 gallons of possibly bad gas in the spring.After reading your quote I will probably pump out the true fuel to just to see if I get water in the tank over winter.
@RichaRat
3 жыл бұрын
#510591 Ethanol is hydroscopic, meaning it attracts and absorbs water. Running that fan over the jars causes a pressure drop which increases evaporation. The evaporation reduces the temperature. The moisture was forming on the jar because the temperature of the jar dropped below the dewpoint and the moisture in the air condensed on the jar. It doesn't take much temperature drop when in high humidity areas to reach the dewpoint.
@SkypowerwithKarl
3 жыл бұрын
Most of us don’t really have a choice of Gasoline or Ethanolized fuel. E10 (10% ethanol) is the most common and is what most late model marine engine manufacturers say is the maximum. As to E15 (15% ethanol) it’s actually a federal violation to use it in your boat. What’s that tell ya? Ethanolized fuel absolutely swells many elastomers (rubber), polyesters (in fiberglass) low density polyethylene, but not high density polyethylene (portable fuel tanks) PTFE (Teflon) and a few others. Which brings me to fuel lines. Only the flexible MARINE fuel lines of the last four or five years has any good chance with ethanolized fuel. It should be printed on the side “USCG approved type A-1 low permeation and a date of manufacture”. (USCG require the flexible fuel lines replaced every 10 years). My favorite fuel line brand is Trident. Older fuel lines inner layer tend to crumble and literally make a solid plug at the first point of constriction as well as the hose falling apart. The new replacement hoses need more hose clamp pressure and also need retightening in 24 hours and at 6 months as the new material flows slowly under pressure. (Always use stainless and double hose clamp) Now the ugly. Besides ethanolized fuel absorbing moisture (hygroscopic ) it can do something really bad, it’s called “phasing” . This is when the fuel separates out to distinct different layers. Gasoline on top, ethanol, water and a thin layer of sulfuric acid at the bottom. This is what eats the crap out of the bottom of the the fuel tanks, float bowls, fuel pumps, coolers, vapor separators and more. Phasing usually needs several conditions for it to happen. A vented to atmosphere tank, below or close to freezing and enough time for moisture to have been absorbed into the fuel (+3 months). Once phasing has happened there is no additive on the planet that will reconstitute the mix. Replace the fuel or carefully drain the stuff below the gasoline out are your choices. If you do manage to get past the water and get it to run on the ethanol, it will run extremely lean because the engine isn’t jetted to run on it. You may find some guys fighting with a motor, finding and the only way to keep it running is the feather the choke. Then one Einstein says “let’s take it out and blow her out”. Bad idea-LEAN! Yeah blow her out alright, the last time. If you want to know if your fuel has water in it (ethanol absorption or rain) or even if it phased, there is a product called “Kolor Kut” and you want the (modified formula) for all types of gasoline. This is a paste that you coat thin layer on a stick(weighted rope?) and stick the tank. Hold it down for about 5 seconds and pull it out. You can tell by different colors on the stick if there’s water and/or ethanol below the gasoline. If you want to help keep your fuel fresh, use Startron additive but it is no miracle worker, additives have limitations. Bottom line, best to keep the fuel fresh. Consider rotating the fuel out to another vehicle if you can’t run it. Be aware it may cause other problems to completely empty your fuel system because some components may dry out, harden or crack.
@richardcranium5839
3 жыл бұрын
ethanol when mixed with water becomes acidic causing corrision to most metals
@holdinitdowninptown
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative as always. The more you know. Thanks
@LandLockedND
3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation on ethanol fuels! and thanks for the shout out to Lake Sakakawea in North Dakota. We are big fans of your channel!
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@craigkaschan4822
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard you can put metho in your tank to mix with the water for it to evaporate. Works in a car.
@richclay7928
3 жыл бұрын
I added a separate water separator filter before the motor filter. Also, I add marine Stabil. This takes care of most of fuel issues. However, I recently reported my boat. I now only use non-ethanol fuel.
@richclay7928
3 жыл бұрын
I love auto correct - repowered not reported.
@bgonz3599
2 жыл бұрын
Another extremely informative video. What an asset you are to the boating community! Thank you for sharing!
@peteprior8896
3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys. One of the best explanations I have seen regarding fuel.
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@melplishka5978
3 жыл бұрын
Ty.Ive been trying too tell a lot of people this and no one believes me lol. Here in Canada there is only premium fuel at boat pumps only for this reason but premium fuel is ridiculously expensive here lol.
@KevinMullenger
2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! This was the most informative fuel education I ever received.
@DirtMcGert29054
3 жыл бұрын
Alcohol evaporates faster than petroleum , when anything evaporates , or changes from a liquid to a gas it lowers in temperature , water , fuel , freon , compressed air , co2 Ext ,
@OisinHiggins
3 жыл бұрын
I was about to post something similar, thank you, good old latent heat of vapourisation.
@DirtMcGert29054
3 жыл бұрын
Oisín Higgins you are correct , I just couldn't remember the proper term for it , thank you
@zabortnick
3 жыл бұрын
Water separating fuel filters are helpful !
@karlvollmer273
3 жыл бұрын
That truly explains a lot. My father in law always had water in the fuel. Who knew 🤦♂️
@grumpysailor8132
3 жыл бұрын
The only fuel I put in my boat is beer. There, I said it out loud.
@DirtMcGert29054
3 жыл бұрын
I think my fuel consumption and beer consumption are close to equal 3-9 gallon per hiur
@waltertx.6020
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, that's funny 🤣🤣
@zacharyirving5080
3 жыл бұрын
you get away with using beer? Damnit, my picky merc only takes 151 proof rum!
@grumpysailor8132
3 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyirving5080 My friends (the one's rowing my boat) are happy with beer...
@coyoteodie4458
3 жыл бұрын
@@grumpysailor8132 beer powered rowing machine...in today's "green" world you could market that idea. Just don't serve them kraute n dogs before hand or you'll have emission issues.
@iceyaj3167
3 жыл бұрын
i have a old 2 stroke Yamaha and all i run is 10 percent ethanol fuel. its not the ethanol fuel im worrying about, its the water that's in the fuel during a fill up. some gas station where i lived has water in their fuel.
@douglaswhitehead2030
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I’ll share this the next time it comes up on Facebook. Great info. Thanks for doing this. 👍🏻
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Andrico77
3 жыл бұрын
Ethanal is added to help the corn farmers prop prices up. Consider it a subsidy.
@scottmcdaniel2472
3 жыл бұрын
There was also a problem in older boats that have fiberglass fuel tanks. The ethanol would dissolve the polyester resin and gum up the fuel system and engine.
@8180634
3 жыл бұрын
I had a generator that someone patched a leaky gas tank on using fiberglass. It stopped running correctly and when I took the carburetor apart there was resin all over the parts flaking off, it was a mess. The gas or ethanol had dissolved the resin and deposited it on all the carburetor parts.
@caribbeanbound8357
Жыл бұрын
Ethanol clogged my weed wacker, snow blower, lawn mower, boat engine and atv engines all in a two year period. It took a long time of using ethanol, but eventually it took its toll. They finally started selling regular fuel with no ethanol at many stations in michigan because of this. but hey, i learned how to rebuild carbs pretty well. so theres that
@loanokaharbor8303
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great explaination and demonstrations! 👍
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@richardcranium5839
3 жыл бұрын
investigate phase seperation. ehtanol will not mix with gasoline so a catalyst is added so it will. over time this catalyst gets used up and converted. then the ethanol being higher specific gravity will drop out and fall to the bottom of the container. sometimes it is very clear there will be a water line on the bottom then you will see another line higher up. that is where the ethanol is lower and the gasoline is higher. ethanol also has a lower octane rating so when you get seperation or dropout you are also picking up lower octane fuel and burning it. if you cant use up the ethanol in two weeks dont use it. if you have portable tanks or cans for your mower etc keep them full as shown here . its better to have 5 one gallon cans full than one 5 gallon tank part full
@sneal77777
3 жыл бұрын
Did empty my boat this winter and used fuel for generator during our deep freeze in Louisiana when I got ready to use boat put 20 gallons in 120 gallon tank and ran each motor for 30 minutes without moving boat so it wouldn’t slosh around did have water in the bottom of water separating filters that are see through after that haven’t seen any more water this summer I do drop filter out about every 3rd outing anyhow
@chuckkfinnley
3 жыл бұрын
props for showing lake sakakawea
@davidweisschadel
3 жыл бұрын
We have taken our portable tank out and got inside with a microfiber cloth and cleaned all the water from the tank.
@jadams736
2 жыл бұрын
The way fuel prices are going be sailboat fuel shortly
@chrissubleski200
3 жыл бұрын
And I thought someone siphoned gas out of my tank during the winter storage. Problem solved!! Thanks.
@diggitydawson
3 жыл бұрын
As a mechanic, I appreciate this greatly. Thank you!
@dylanm2965
3 жыл бұрын
I have had luck with k100 it “makes water burn” but it seems to stabilize the fuel better then most
@irwfcm
3 жыл бұрын
I know diesels are popular on boats with inboard engines, but I'm surprised they are not more commonplace in outboard applications. The fuel is much more stable than gasoline and the engines are more efficient for the same power.
@AB-bg1or
2 жыл бұрын
Very few diesel outboards out there and they are super expensive. I don't think the technology is there yet, but I'm no expert.
@danbarosh2942
3 жыл бұрын
Had lots of bad exp with eth gas....Not in autos but in things that had seasonal use..Weed eaters/lawn mowers/chain saw/tiller/boat motors...My answer was run all fuel out at end of season...That reduced problems almost to nill...Now that were able to find Non eth gas at a few stations and use it 100% of time and alls OK...But dang the price dff is WOW...Bought some last night Regular unlead $2.65........No ETH $3.99
@christopherkeene8380
Жыл бұрын
excellent video, thanks! I accidentally left a full tank (30ish gallons) of untreated ethanol free fuel in the boat for 9 months. what do i have to do now? Its a 2 stroke yamaha.
@Speedoutrc
3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid on boats
@Speedoutrc
3 жыл бұрын
Oh shoot
@jvjoe4376
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! You didn't mention anything about using water separators.
@caddiman9834
3 жыл бұрын
Im from Connecticut and EVERY gas station has E85 only. Is that bad?
@johnwilkinson4399
3 жыл бұрын
I run e10 in my 40 gallon tank. Luckily I’ve never had a problem. I treat with stabil and burn 2 tanks a season.
@AnthonyAngler
3 жыл бұрын
always top off my tank. i had heard that keeping the tank full is better for less condensation. needless to say my tank ruptured and almost blew up me and my family. need to install new tank i am also downsizing from 73 gal to 55
@stevenyau2443
3 жыл бұрын
Both feuls are pretty much absorbing the same amount of water The problem with ethanol fuel is that all th ethanol crashes out of the fuel in the presence of water You only need a few drops pf water to cause all the ethanol to crash out of it
@stevenyau2443
3 жыл бұрын
Also the remaining fuel is pretty useless since the ethanol is the octane booster for the fuel. Without it he fuel has a way lower octane rating which can cause detonation and destroy your engine
@thomaswbennett4857
2 жыл бұрын
A few years ago, i went to the auto parts store to buy a couple of feet of fuel hose. They wanted to know if I would be using ethanol gas as the fuel hose is different. There was not a significant price difference so I bought the ethanol fuel line thinking it would hold up better when using ethanol fuel. What are your thoughts on that?
@joelstanhope7231
3 жыл бұрын
I added a fuel water separator inline and it captures the water before it reaches the engine eliminating the problem permanently .ethanol doesnt bother my boat
@zacpearson1878
3 жыл бұрын
I run normal 87 as my gas to mix into my bass boat but we run it so much it’s not sitting, my gpa on the other hand runs in once a month give or take and runs non ethanol gas. I switched to normal gas when sleepy joe got us up to 3.40 a gallon for non ethanol
@jaydunbar7538
3 жыл бұрын
Ethenol is hygroscopic, that literally means it absorbs moisture from the air.
@valkyrie6926
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great video’s and information!!
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Kenba40
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the corroded in boat fuel tanks you showed, my question is why don’t they use plastic fuel tanks in boats?
@joekaz5198
3 жыл бұрын
Moeller makes great plastic tanks and they've been around for years. Idk why aluminum tanks are still so common.
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question! Please post it in our Born Again Boating Community! Go here and scroll down to access - it’s free: www.bornagainboating.com/
@TK-ol6hj
3 жыл бұрын
You guys in the south have that option up north we are stuck that junk gasoline
@samtate1260
3 жыл бұрын
I have never used ethanol in my outbords ever never even thought about it I don’t even like putting it in my truck and it say E85 is ok but I worked in a refinery so I know how badly it is
@6speeddakota
3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised rec90 isn’t marked. In BC most recreational fuels are dyed so they can’t be used on the road.
@PS-zw4yc
3 жыл бұрын
They are charging tax on it so it’s road legal. We have dyed off road diesel tho for tractors[equipment
@PS-zw4yc
3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to have off-road gas tho. Save some $. But the tax man wants more
@6speeddakota
3 жыл бұрын
@@PS-zw4yc I see, makes sense, here in British columbia, recreational, marina and farm fuel is dyed because it’s not road taxed, despite the fact that you can fill a farm truck with it and drive it on the road.
@eallanboggs
3 жыл бұрын
Take 2 plastic water bottles filled 1/2 way with water. Add the same amount of 100% pure gas to one bottle and E85 to the other bottle and shake them up. Set the bottles down side by side and look at the gas/water line after shaking. You will notice the water line is in the SAME place on the PURE GAS bottle, but on the ethanol bottle it looks like more water has been added because the gas/water line has moved UP in the bottle, There isn't really more water in the bottle. It is the ethanol mixing with the water making it APPEAR there is more water in the bottle. The PURE GAS does NOT mix with the water so the line doesn't move Only use PURE gas
@thomasjefferies3007
3 жыл бұрын
You are just repeating what the video told and showed us. Tell us something we already don't know.🤔🤔
@MrGoldman9
Жыл бұрын
Is there a computer like the one we use in cars that reads faults from the computer instead of guessing ?!!
@WesLovelace
3 жыл бұрын
Ethanol fuel is garbage.....After clogged jets and injectors, fuel/water separators and disintegrating fuel lines both boats and all my yard equipment are only fueled with REC or Non Ethanol gas.....Here in Florida a lot of stations have Boat/REC gas so it's easy to buy but about 20% more expensive but well worth the price!!
@joekaz5198
3 жыл бұрын
I've run nothing but ethanol for years but my tank is only 20 gallons and I run it dry at every outing.
@clyderichardson6475
3 жыл бұрын
It created a problem in my fuel hose. Lake Michigan is no place for boat problems. I now run only rec gas. End of story.
@Gslice-ok4ck
3 жыл бұрын
Those fuel prices are great 🥵
@ronm7781
2 жыл бұрын
no non ethanol options in New Jersey - sad
@falconeaterf15
Жыл бұрын
I run some old two strokes that require pouring oil directly into the fuel tank. Never had issues with carbs or fuel system. Does the two stroke oil help protect from ethanol? Would love to see mixed gas added to your experiment.
@erichgarcia1
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. Thank you
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@bigrich7026
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't burn ethanol through a weed eater. Leaded race gas at the pump. Merica'
@CaptDavesSportfishing
3 жыл бұрын
100% FRESH EVERY FEW DAYS NON-ETHANOL! brand new fuel tank, new 2020 250 Suzuki, has never seen Ethanol. that gets run -out in a barrel of fresh water every trip!
@billyrayband
3 жыл бұрын
Unless you use your boat frequently and year around, always avoid ethanol, and consider adding Stabil every time you fuel. Same for your small engines and collector cars.
@handy-capoutdoors4063
3 жыл бұрын
I use kwik trip "quality garentee" premium grade no ethanol fuel. And then the factory reccomend grade of 2 stroke oil to the factory reccomend ratio of 10 to 1... my 1957 british seagull is a dirty girl but she runs like a top. And don't like to stop lol
@johnwedzicha
3 жыл бұрын
Another reason to build or buy a diesel powered boat. Kinda like a Mac to a PC.
@mrnotnomis
3 жыл бұрын
There's no way to do this on a boat, but for my really small engines (chain saw, gas trimmer, etc), I ONLY run pre-mixed canned fuel from the store. You know the stuff. If they give me a free can, I'll say the True name. This stuff is premium, ethanol-free, preserved fuel with oil already mixed in. I do zero maintenance after letting my stuff sit all winter, and it starts on the first pull in the spring. With small engines, I don't really use enough to feel the difference in price. If you tried to fill a boat with it though, it would probably cost the same as just buying a new boat!
@kolilagephart3766
3 жыл бұрын
So the forklift people know how to eliminate junky gas problems , go propane so why did the lehr motors not catch on? I could certainly see using a forklift tank in a boat , no spillage , no fuel pump , no old gas problems, no carbon build up better octane
@carypeaden4147
3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video!
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@firedude4080
3 жыл бұрын
Dealing with water being trapped somewhere in my 91 proline tank... myself and the boat mechanic cannot find why so much water is present. Tank has been drained...pressure tested and he's still pulling water out.
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
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@andrewsigler3695
3 жыл бұрын
Would putting a scoop over the vent diminish the effect of the air flow underway? I understand it wouldn't get rid of the problem completely but possibly lessen it...?
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
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@seansimons7043
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@u2mister17
3 жыл бұрын
Nailed it- thanks.
@jayjawort8927
3 жыл бұрын
Local station just started to carry non ethanol mid grade fuel, about 30 cents less per gallon. I have optimax motors. Thoughts on running this fuel type. Living in Wisconsin, it does get stored about 6 months per year.
@dixie3087
3 жыл бұрын
$0.30 more or less? Most non ethanol fuel cost more than your fuel that has ethanol.
@jayjawort8927
3 жыл бұрын
@@dixie3087 .30 less than the prem non ethanol. So 89 octane vs 91
@dixie3087
3 жыл бұрын
Oh okay. I thought u were talking ethanol vs non ethanol. Sorry
@deathhawk81
20 күн бұрын
I'll say this. Ethanol fuel is what destroyed my boat's fuel tank 1992 Seaswirl. Aluminum tank, rotted out seeing my late uncle used cheap gas with ethanol in it and thus sat for 10-12 years
@BornAgainBoating
11 күн бұрын
Yeah, Ethanol can not sit for long without causing serious damage! Sucks it took out the entire tank and now you gotta replace it :(
@bigdghost3319
3 жыл бұрын
Guy's this is an outstanding video, thank you.........
@BornAgainBoating
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@22steny
3 жыл бұрын
Hey that was my boat in North Dakota ! Well maybe not but it could be! I know when storing during winter we add storage additives/treatment up here. The next question is Non ethanol its normally Higher octane which takes more compression to fire, is the higher octane ok on an engine? I run normally 91 at the beginning of season and end of season but will run 87 with ethanol when i know i will use it mid season. Yes we have 4 seasons here!
@coreyholmes2229
3 жыл бұрын
You’re close. Higher octane is meant for higher compression applications due to its lower tendency for pre-detonation(engine knock). In lower compression engines it won’t hurt anything but just be a waste of money.
@scooter8187
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the primary master Mercury mechanic on the BBC (Bass Boat Central) website says it's more important to run the lower octane (87) found in most standard ethanol fuels than it is to run non-ethanol fuel with higher octane (90) on the newer Mercury outboards that are rated for 87 octane. He says the octane requirement is more important than the ethanol vs non-ethanol aspect. He does recommend adding a certain mixture of Quickleen and Quickcare every time you add the ethanol fuel. He says while it may be preferred to use fuel that contains lower or no ethanol, fuels that have significantly higher octane vs. recommended octane ( by the outboard manufacturer) can cause decreased performance and fuel economy, and potentially cause carbon buildup.
@mikeyoung6347
3 жыл бұрын
good video, I've been installing/rebuilding carbs and replacing plugs on the same outboards for years because of ethanol fuel.
@carypeaden4147
3 жыл бұрын
How would you recommend draining an ~50 gallon internal tank of 1.5 year old ethanol fuel? I am fixing up a boat that has mostly been sitting for about 1.5 years, and I want to replace that old fuel with ethanol free fuel to remove that as a potential problem.
@madmike19822009
3 жыл бұрын
I pumped my gas out with the primer bulb. Took a half hour for 12 gal. Id run some seafoam threw it after with gas. Could be a long fix if it did like mine and gelled. My hole fuel pump and filter was gelled with bee wax type sht.
@v8consumption
3 жыл бұрын
Never had a issue. Even my racecar that runs e98.no issues ever. My 99 2 stroke ski or my 97 mariner 2 stroke or my 4 motorcycles or my cars never had a single issue. Even my small engines
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