Let me jump in quickly before all the comments come in... I know these are not limited editions and I realised that half way through and made a correction. Cheers! 🤦♂
@derekclacton
Жыл бұрын
Although not limited editions, I doubt the ‘new’ ‘58 Epiphone Explorer and Flying V will be available for long …
@jfiery
Жыл бұрын
Not to throw fuel on your gas but with you being a P90 aficionado I'd love to get your thoughts on the new Gretsch Electromatics with P90s.
@BarqB
Жыл бұрын
I'd still like to see you get a pair of the Gibson custom buckers and put them in an Epiphone les paul and compare the sound to a Gibson les paul and see if if it really is a game changer as an upgrade
@rockinrob2004
Жыл бұрын
@@derekclacton I think the price will come down be for they sell out, JMO
@derekclacton
Жыл бұрын
@@rockinrob2004 You could be right :) The original list price is very high for Epiphone, despite the quality Gibson appointments and hard case - the Custom Shop association doesn’t in itself justify the price tag, imho. They do look very nice though (!)
@crabbybastardguitars9955
Жыл бұрын
This man should have a much more massive audience.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
😊🙏
@johncollins5552
Жыл бұрын
You should change your name to Massive Crabby Bastard Guitars then😉😆🤣🎸
@harryscallywag6280
Жыл бұрын
This is literally the only youtube channel I check regularly
@I-Libertine
Жыл бұрын
Every industry is testing it's pricing range right now. If you buy at that price, you're voting for price increases across the brand.
@voiceofexperience
Жыл бұрын
Bingo.
@williamarthurfenton1496
Жыл бұрын
Indeed, and what company for that could be worse than Gibson. Hiking up the Epiphone prices will only have short-term gain (but that's how they think), because once again the competition will blow them out of the water with excellent guitars still at the £400-500 mark. It's insane to charge that much for what supposed to be an affordable range. Guitars that are still built in the same factories in the far east. Guitars that still have laurel fingerboards and poly finishes. Quality wise they are identical to the SG and Les Pauls they did a few years back with Gibson pickups, and they were about £700-800, which is at the very limit of price for what again supposed to be a lower priced range alternative to full fat Gibsons.
@nieko3038
Жыл бұрын
1100 for an Epiphone. Let that sink in. Can build myself a guitar with fancy parts and wood for that money. Lot if companies wat your money but forgot this thing called service.
@SionynJones
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure price of wood has increased especially China manufacturer anything anymore. Unless they switch from using exotic hardwoods I think we can only expect to pay more. That said the 61 SG and 59 Les Paul has RRP of 900 which we know will go up in price with the march price increase. My guess is they'll go up to the same price or similar as flying v and explorer.
@NintenDub
Жыл бұрын
Absolmuthafuckinlutely... I like the v.i do.but at 1300$ for an Epiphone...no thanks
@steviesteakbakes9643
Жыл бұрын
I remember the white SG at the time thinking “jeez that’s a lot for an Epiphone”. I’ve sat for a while thinking about how to convey my thoughts on this issue- the bottom line is it is just ridiculous pricing. Bit of a downer when we are all getting priced out of basic food, fuel, housing and now I’m getting chewed out of the one thing that makes me happy in life! Anyway, have a good weekend Colin! 👍🏻
@BenPortmanlewes
Жыл бұрын
Buy an SG modern, cheap as chips, I know collin was meh on them but I fiddled with the pole pieces and mine now has a definite voice.
@jmartini8875
Жыл бұрын
Yep. I'm feeling all that economic stuff too. Tired of dumping money into something that has little to no return. I will not purchase one of these Explorers . Too high on the pricing. Even the Gibson version is ridiculous. Only difference is the Gibson will hold and or increase in value.
@booshting3520
Жыл бұрын
I had a situation with Andertons where they had 4 Gibson Goldtop LP'S listed in stock. They took the money then told me they had none in stock, nobody had updated the website. I ended up waiting months. Nobody could say when stock was coming in. Apparently Gibson don't send details of what they are shipping to dealers, they just have to wait and open boxes when they arrive. One day I happen to look at their website and they've got them back in stock. No contact, no email from them. Nothing. I contacted them asking why they were listed, but they hadnt sent me one ? No apology or explanation at all. Utter clownshow.
@reddottx
3 ай бұрын
I really hate it when anyone doesn’t return calls, texts or emails when it’s a proper subject. It’s just not that difficult . “The guitar you were wanting is back in stock. Would you like us to add it to your cart?” How hard was that?
@carlosdeno
Жыл бұрын
Everything is very slowly being choked, the price increases are beyond ridiculous. Every manufacturer, supplier and distributor in my opinion are testing the water and it some cases it’s very naughty and just pure greed. Greed will kill us all. Great review as always Colin and loved the Skynyrd vibe jamming, quite appropriate too, RIP Mr Rossington. 🤘
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
😎🤘
@onlyguitars
Жыл бұрын
Awesome!! This is currently easily y top 3 favorite guitar channel. Love your videos!! Really cool firebird sucks you didn't get the Explorer.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers man!
@ericwarrington6650
Жыл бұрын
You spend a fortune on gear w these folks...I'd lean on them too man...great work buddy...you do them a tremendous service in promotion with no retribution for your time most of the time at least so they def owe you one... probably many more..good luck 🤞
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate 😎👍
@thomaswilkinson4027
Жыл бұрын
I feel for you. Online shopping is horrible like that - imagine going to a shop, handing over your money and then they say “sorry we don’t have one I’ll give you your money back soon if you want.” But also the main issue, Epiphone testing the market by making out that they really are actually Gibson in a money grabbing exercise. I have bought my guitars used from shops but I really appreciate you are covering new releases and basically self-financing independent reviews. Not all heroes wear capes - thank you for what you do.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas that's appreciated! 😁🙏
@markalex803
Жыл бұрын
I agree mate 100% , comes to a point when you have to kick up a fuss to get somewhere and even then no one wants to take responsibility for bad service. Unfortunately these are the times we live in now , bad customer service and bad delivery drivers are all to common these days and the companies we purchase from couldn't seem to care less and pass the blame , quick to take our money though.
@TimB335
Жыл бұрын
Another great video Colin, very honest which is why we tune in! Completely agree that the price of the new Epiphones is nuts, seen lots of people trying to justify it based on the spec but you can get some great full fat Gibsons on the used market for that kind of money, OK they're not 58 spec and to get a 58 Spec Gibson Flying V or Explorer you'd have to spend a lot more but that still doesn't justify the crazy prices Epiphone are getting up to now.
@NintenDub
Жыл бұрын
I think it's cool.id pay it if I had the money.at least once.they are. Special guitar,sure.but this is the limit pusher. And the problem is with all the KZitemrs buying em, ppl will want them.and they'll make more.and in 3 months there will be another 1300$ epi. The tony iommi 1000$ epi was just the start. Even if it's better than a Gibson, Epiphone won't be seen as an amazing budget brand,unless they start at 5-600$. When you have 180$ - 1300$ guitars, the name is stretched too thin
@johnbooth1556
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always a great watch. This week was no exception; borne out of the fact that I was totally immersed in the tale of the 'no show' Explorer. See you next week.
@davelewis4215
Жыл бұрын
The Firebird is a brilliant guitar. I love mine and for £450 and £100 for the case is a bargain 👌👍
@peterb2245
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Firebird is a great instrument. No regrets. Wish Epi would have done a natural Explorer same way. Wouldn’t have to be Korina or ‘58.
@jonathanhudak2059
Жыл бұрын
Dave Lewis... The Firebird sure is a brilliant guitar! Just bought one of the new Epiphone versions less than 2 weeks ago brand new. I love it although I am having a setup done on it and having it changed over to 10 gauge strings but other than that it's a great value for the money!
@jonathanhudak2059
Жыл бұрын
Meant going from 10 gauge to 9 gauge
@NigeSavage
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant episode mate! You talking bollocks is still more interesting than most people not talking bollocks, so keep doing what you're doing!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
😆👍
@joshmorlan6141
Жыл бұрын
Keep doing what you're doing mate. I could listen to you go on for hours! Keep up the good work.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Josh!
@sixbladeknife44
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the crappy experience Colin, unfortunately I’ve found these things to be way too commonplace nowadays (as well as less than stellar customer service which also seems to be way too commonplace). I bought a new Gibson Firebird in pelham blue a few years ago (for a nice price) and had to send it back because there was a chip on the body right by the bridge. The online store said they were holding a replacement for me, but then I got a message (after I had sent the other back) that their inventory was inaccurate and there was no replacement. They refunded my money, but I’ve been without a Firebird ever since! I would’ve kept the one with the chip for a discount if I had known that that was the only other option, what a bummer! I’ve debated just grabbing an Epi version like yours because I’m not willing to spend on a custom shop for now…yours sounds great, and nice Skynyrd tribute, RIP Gary 🙏 Oh and btw, I bought one of the new Bonamassa red ‘62 ES-335’s which is also on the pricier side for Epi ($1299 new, but I got it for a bit less w/ a discount), and it’s outstanding…def. hangs with my Gibson ES-335 Traditional, and actually does some things better than that guitar. That one was worth the $$ without a doubt. In regards to Epi pricing overall, in their defense they still offer models at all price points…only a few are reaching the higher end on the $$ scale, which I think should be taken into account when talking about these things, there’s still something for everyone out there.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers man, a lot of people seem to agree with the view that they (Epi) are still offering something for everyone at all price points. Maybe for the time being perhaps but I think these premium models undermine the more affordable versions, and personally I think this is a slippery slope that only goes downhill from here. Let's hope not!
@sixbladeknife44
Жыл бұрын
@@theguitaristas I really hope Epi continues to have models at all price points, no reason that I can see that anything would change in regards to that…I think they’re just expanding the range (in a good way) and making some very cool higher tier models, I don’t see anything wrong with that. Personally, I’ve been very impressed with the artist sigs, I’ve certainly found them to be a notch above the base models. As someone above alluded to however, I think we need to prepare for higher price points across the range…it’s not just guitar gear, everything is escalating $$ wise. And I highly doubt that once those prices have risen, that they’ll go down again. Right now is probably the best time to buy before we see the inevitable price increases.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
@@BlueberryStinkFinger62 I’m not talking about quality… I agree they have always had that but there’s no need to start charging US prices for offshore manufacturing. That’s all I’m saying.
@Man_fay_the_Bru
Жыл бұрын
@@BlueberryStinkFinger62 found the epi rep
@jacobshred67
Жыл бұрын
great video brother man 💜👍🏼 still my favorite youtuber mate , nothing like some cofee in the morning and a smoke with one of your videos on, you have the perfect personality for this stuff very chill dude indeed , good work !
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Jacob that's appreciated 😊🙏
@ingenuitymedia9434
Жыл бұрын
Hey Colin, sorry to hear about the troubles. I have some experience with a couple of these things, so here's my take (for what it's worth). (for context I have a background in technology, and I've recently owned a manufacturing company). 1) it sounds like the company you ordered from has a integrated inventory management and online store system, it's pretty common that their system would create a PO for Gibson (in this case) and then enter an availability date, when it will be available for online ordering. Unfortunately, they don't seem to have integrated their receiving system. So if a PO comes back missing items, the online store (at very least) won't know unless someone specifically goes in and updates it. 2) it's pretty common for a manufacturer to ship partial PO orders. Particularly with long lead and/or high demand products. It's very possible Gibson shipped to the largest retailers first (particularly if they typically make large orders). I know Gibson requires minimum order quantities per year to carry their brands. But the biggest customers get product first. Not to discount the current mess that is global shipping... those Epiphones are out of China... shipping has been a nightmare since 2020. 3) The money return... well, that's often not the retailer (or manufacturer). It's the country your in, and the banking system. In Canada, returns are almost immediate. Debit is instant (including debit done over Visa or Mastercard networks). Credit card returns can be delayed several days, but... not always. In the US, purchases are instant (however the retailer doesn't get the money for days in most cases). Returns can take a month. Although I've seen some be very quick... most ... not so much. The banks/money processors make a TON of money on those delays (shocker)... they actual move them into temporary interest earning accounts during the "wait time". Your retailer seems like they're being upfront... yes "blame the manufacturer" sounds like a cop-out... but based on your story, I tend to believe their story. If anything, they should do inventory receiving confirmation BEFORE the online store shows products. But... if they did that, they'd likely be days late showing new products that are expected to be released. And the market is competitive. Hope the next purchase goes smoothly. Cheers
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers man, so basically lot's of things that seem to work in everyone favour except the buyer!
@patrickaquilina8654
Жыл бұрын
Has happened to me in the States too, with a reputable guitar store and online shop in Illinois. Pushed a guitar from June to September, to December to March! Cancelled order. Fortunately for me the refund was done in 5 minutes. Great content!
@sams110
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Colin for your reviews and sincerity, your videos are part of my Saturday morning routine. I am sorry that you have experienced this but I am grateful that you have been our voice, as this happens far too often and we don’t get listened to because we don’t have a forum. I know it’s not the same but I’ve got sometime ago the Harley Benton Classic Explorer and I’m happy with it, more guitar than the price I paid for it, or maybe I just got lucky!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Sam!
@xMaoxoaMx
Жыл бұрын
I dont know how they wanna justify the price tag, when you can get a Gibson EX and V for almost the same money. They really dropped the ball on this one, and i dont think that they´ll sell a lot.
@gazzy_burns
Жыл бұрын
The Epiphone 59 has been seen for £599-650 recently. So this price is awful. I just can’t justify it.
@Edward1312
Жыл бұрын
I paid £720 for mine when they were first released and its worth every penny.
@joehahn8817
Жыл бұрын
@@Edward1312No so "Limited" though, are they??? I got mine when they were $799 at zZounds almost three years ago and they're STILL in production!!!😡
@Edward1312
Жыл бұрын
@@joehahn8817 The original plan was to have a limited run but they were such a runaway success that the run has been extended and extended again. Didnt make any business sense to stop production remember their business model is to sell guitars!
@benallmark9671
Жыл бұрын
@@Edward1312 ya but it’s dirty pool they’re playing. People buy them expecting them to be a limited run as promoted then they pull that shit. Not cool and they’re going back on their word. So the guitar you have that you though was kinda special because it was a limited run turns out to be nothing more then one of hundreds of thousands and nothing special at all. Rubs customers the wrong way and don’t blame them at all.
@bryonkidder6199
Жыл бұрын
@@benallmark9671 the first production run will always be more "valuable" to a collector but people generally buy Epiphone's to play...imo
@chasbee
Жыл бұрын
Mr. C pops out of me when it comes to these new Epiphones as well, as I would just LOVE to see them discover that the public simply won't pay the price. Would be a nice message to Gibson. Your summation of Epiphone near the end is spot on!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers John that's appreciated... I worry that ultimately these lovely shiny guitars are too much for us lot to resist and we'll just suck it up? 🤷♂️
@chasbee
Жыл бұрын
@@theguitaristas Oh, we will - probably myself included. ...But Mr. C in me wishes we wouldn't! LOL
@geraldhills41
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling us about gears 4 music , I have heard other things about this outlet and won't ever consider buying anything from them ! At the least they could have got one from another retailer but they would have lost their profit . They made a mistake selling you a guitar that they didn't even have in stock !
@fk-qi2bp
Жыл бұрын
Gear 4 music sent me the wrong guitar, and customer service was THE worst! First and last time i buy anything from there..
@aliengrey6052
Жыл бұрын
Andertons are wicked for selling you a guitar they don’t have.
@Rodelkoenig100
Жыл бұрын
Had exactly the same worries before I bought my Gibson LP 50s Standard Gold Top P90 there last year but as it was not in stock anywhere else I gave it a try. Shipping was extremely fast. The Case had a 5cm scratch on it for which they gave me a refund of 80€ on the same day of delivery. Seems like a little bit of gambling ordering there idk.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
@alien grey haven't had that experience with Anderton's myself but am testing them frequently! 😆👍
@aliengrey6052
Жыл бұрын
@@theguitaristas I purchased an accoustic guitar, it was a very good Martin D45 copy that was raved about ( some Japanese builder, discontinued guitar I believe) well I ordered it on a Friday night and payed for it online and waited as it said order being processed. Well after four days it was a no show, so I contacted them. They took a day to get back to me and said it had sold over the weekend. Well I was absolutely steaming!!!! I demanded to speak to Leigh but never got a sorry kiss my ass or anything. Took a week to get a refund. I will never order from them again. Do they not get an alert when something has sold via the internet when they try to put it through the till in the shop? I think they must have done and ignored it. I thought bollocks! And never ordered from them again and I buy a lot of gear.A couple of the best online stores I buy from are Fair deal music In Birmingham and Thomann in Germany. Both are really good solid fair companies who treat their customers with a long term view and don’t look down their noses at them like Andertons.
@Brabdog
Жыл бұрын
Coordination issues between purchasing and merchandising (selling, advertising, promotion, etc.) used to be more common before the advent of purchasing and warehousing software. Should be rare nowadays if basic purchase/inventory tracking processes are in place.
@Stratboy999
Жыл бұрын
£1150 is eye wateringly expensive for an Epiphone. If the Explorer was £699 I would definitely get one (in natural finish). Sorry to hear that you had a dud experience with G4M - I have never had a problem with those guys and they have always been good. It sounds like bullshit to me that they would goods receive the guitars and update their website to indicate available stock when they had received no shipment. I think somebody was pulling a fast one, or trying some sharp buiness practice.
@jonathanhudak2059
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear this Colin it must've been so frustrating!! At least your credit card got credited. I love seeing you playing the Epiphone Firebird in place of the Explorer that you were supposed to get. I know it seemed just like two or three years ago you could get the Flying V model 1958 reissue for around $600 or so here in the states. I don't know what the differences are between that one and this brand-new one but I would love to have one! Just bought the Epi. Firebird and will maybe have to settle for that and am very content with it. The GAS is hard to shake mate! BTW love your channel! Your reviews are so honest and entertaining and most of all down to earth! Cheers from the U.S. Colin!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate! 😁👍
@aitken1965
Жыл бұрын
Those pickups have a lovely bite, and clarity. I thoroughly enjoyed listening.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man that's appreciated! 😁👍
@giannirobibero3361
Жыл бұрын
I bought an Epiphone Korina explorer a year ago for 799 Canadian. You can still find a few of those in Canada. It is a multi piece korina body with laminated veneer top, but for the price you can’t go wrong. This one even has a real rosewood fretboard. I’m m currently saving for its Flying V sister.
@shanebiggs1888
Жыл бұрын
Schecters are 2-400$ used and eat epiphone and Gibson for quality all day long. Don't waste your hard earned money. Epiphones are 200$ guitars. 800$? Hell no. My 1st guitar was a decent epiphone sg. Prices today do not need to be indulged.
@almcclung2783
Жыл бұрын
I think that is what I have, I bought it as a'58 Korina reissue back in 2011or 2012 for about $650 - it has the gold hardware too, it plays well and the grain is really pretty. ❤️
@MRoo1oo
Жыл бұрын
Please look into reviewing a ESP-LTD (1000-1300ish), they have a great reputation and I'd love to hear your take on them.
@NotLolo
Жыл бұрын
Colin - just want to say that I love your set lighting! It’s like you have “eyelights” on your stars! Very very nice job!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers that’s appreciated! 😁🙏
@bradleyclosson5042
Жыл бұрын
Any video you make, new guitar or not is interesting, entertaining and helps me scratch my guitar itch. Thanks Colin
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching mate! 😁🙏
@ekjade
Жыл бұрын
Love your vids, real life struggles mate ! Your experience will definitely help someone else, cheers. Great Firebird ax !
@oldmanzen6682
Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain and frustration. I had to wait nearly a year to get my Harrison Tele, though unlike you, I was charged immediately so was out quite a bit for quite a few months. Thanks for the honest seller feedback. You never sounded like an entitled prick, but rather were reporting on a purchasing experience, and that serves us all as buyers.
@TheRealChetManley
Жыл бұрын
My favorite show hands down. I look forward to setting aside some time every week to watch. And before watching I click thumbs up and leave a comment. Fabulous show sir, this feels like it could be a show on BBC.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate that’s appreciated! 😊🙏
@johnulrich5572
Жыл бұрын
Sorry about your experience but while yoy were talking I was gerring gas over your Firebird. What a beautiful guitar you have! Very classy with a beautiful finish and sound.
@davelewis4215
Жыл бұрын
Colin, The new Epiphone Explorer and Flying V are not limited editions.👍
@tomd8313
Жыл бұрын
I’m with you Colin, you are correct in complaining. A reputable company would have justified Their Mistake, and drop shipped you one from another retailer that had stock, immediately! Thanks for all your reviews. Rock on
@voiceofexperience
Жыл бұрын
I saw that new Epi Explorer for sale two days ago and couldn't believe the price either (I'm in Australia). Then, just today, I saw a Player Tele for sale online from the same place I'd bought mine in late 2021. It was over 40% more than what I paid for it. Same guitar. FX pedals? More or less the same story. They have succeeded in curing my "GAS," so props for that, I suppose. I'll keep watching your reviews, Col, but my gear-buying days are over for the foreseeable future. They can, as you Brits would say, "stick it up their ar..". (Edit: The Firebird sounds great, especially for the style of music you chose to play on it!)
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers man! 😁👍👍
@wadesummers4102
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear Colin. I'd agree - I think the $1,300 price is a bit of a reach. I got the 59 LP in the summer of 2021 for around $750 (a bit lower than list because it was a demo model). Great guitar. They are about 850-900 now. The Explorer is the same beast and they want 400+/- more. Doesn't seem right.
@muddyh2o240
Жыл бұрын
I've had this happen, it's never a fun situation. There is however a silver lining. You can now correct the error of your ways and buy the Flying V instead as you should have done from the start. Cheers my friend. 😎
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
😆👍
@carlospenna
Жыл бұрын
Hello Colin, I was impressed with this situation you went through... years ago I had the same problem here in São Paulo - Brazil, I bought a tele, obviously not original, the store notified me that they didn't have the tele, they gave me work to get the money back, but I did it!!! ✊✊✊✊ Nice mention of Gary Rossington.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Carlos, glad both we got there in the end! 😁👍
@trippknotic
Жыл бұрын
You’re right in giving it to these online lot who can’t deliver. Bunch of lurk merchants. On a brighter note after watching your firebird review, which gave me gas, I swapped a bass for a near new firebird. This quirky guitar is fabulous, where have you been all my life? Feels and sounds so good. Anyway I sure next week will bring more guitars.. Cheers 🖖
@johnwhitehouse4100
Жыл бұрын
Glad as ever watching your channel Colin , you keep it honest and straight and that is very rare in the Tube , they have no excuse ,even the Gibson didn't deliver the full order ... Avery delivery is checked and counted , you wouldn't want one dropping off the back of the lorry Guv 😎 Looking forward to your next video review as you always tell it as it is 🎸🎸👍
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers John! 😁👍
@John-hi2yi
Жыл бұрын
Another brilliant real life video. I really like some of Epiphone’s offerings but at £1200 it’s beyond reasonable. Plenty of excellent guitars in the sub £600 range that will last for years and rock your socks off.
@jasonmick1587
Жыл бұрын
Hey man really enjoy your videos. I have a different perspective than most commenters on this particular subject. Personally I think the cheap bug might have bit you this time? What you are getting for the money is on the “cheap” side of the Gibson family when compared to a new run 58’ Korina Gibson at $9,999. I personally feel the Joe Bonamasa “Amos” flying V was a test run for this series. It has the same construction and specs minus the Gibson pickups. Those initially sold for $799 and if you look at the secondary market they are double that now because they are different from a regular Epiphone especially the neck. Regarding the online purchase I’m wondering why you didn’t go to one of the other stores and get one in your hand if that was possible? I think these are going to become hard to get. I’ve ordered one through Sweetwater here in the states and am waiting in line for one. That Epiphone Firebird is an excellent guitar that punches way above its weight once you get it frets leveled. I bought an Olive drab one after watching your review. And Yes sometimes the internet is unreliable but being in a guitar store is a little more reliable. I think that you should still try to get this one because you will feel a difference in the neck it’s not a normal Epiphone it’s pricey sure but I think it’s worth it. Thanks for the really helpful videos cheers!
@jeffroq
Жыл бұрын
Great show Colin. Retailers should clear refunds immediately. There is no reason for them not to be able to do it other than their own internal procedures.
@spikev5842
Жыл бұрын
I would say ... Almost true. What I have found is that most online retailers depend on the commercial software package they have acquired from a developer which operates their online business (and of course this begins to get complicated since it needs to tie into other areas like stock levels and tax handling). So pretty much, if you walk into their store ... raise some concern... cha-ching - refund from the cash draw (Management decision) - on-line transaction, not so much. But, then, that's when Management needs to step up and - simply Deliver (period) ... then deal with the internal issues which belong 100% to them - NOT the Customer👍
@crestabear69
Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin Sorry to hear of your woes! I ordered one from gear4music (I,too, shopped around for the best deal) on Tuesday 28/2. I got it for a tad over GBP 1,000 (CHF 1,125.99 to be exact - UK VAT removed and Swiss taxes and delivery paid). I found it waiting by my front door on Wednesday 8th March as promised. So far very pleased with it - good fret job in particular. That said, given the price of the LP and SG forerunners, which had Gibson pickups too, I think I’m with you on the price issue.
@rob_in_stowmarket_uk
Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin. I had this problem a couple of months back with a Maestro Fuzz-Tone for £79.99 + £4.50 p & p (they’ve come down a little in the last few weeks but virtually everyone’s ‘street price ‘ then was £155.00!) from a small, independent dealer and got a similar response. Luckily I had funds available and immediately found the same pedal on GUITARGUITAR at £69.99 + £2.99 p & p… every cloud an’ all that❗️😜 BTW: Don’t forget to phone, rather than just ‘click’, when you’re shopping for the next guitar. You’d be surprised at how often you can get a significant ‘deal’ for the price of a few pence for the call and politely asking! Works for me for, at least 50% of the time.😬 A tenner here, £25 -£50 or 5% or 10% there, it all adds up. Plus: if they ‘stick’ on the price, you can sometimes get a set or two of strings of your choice ‘thrown in’, or a deal on the case or gig-bag.
@bluesdude1194
Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin interesting video. I had my eye on a natural finish explorer for quite a while but I could not justify the Epiphone price (I'm not a gigging musician). So having looked around I went for the Harley Benton version which my wonderful wife bought me for Xmas 2022. As an owner of Fender, Epiphone, Ibanez guitars I am more than happy with it, great build and finish quality and it play fantastic. Great channel by the way.
@tcarbonimusic
Жыл бұрын
Greetings again from New York! I would never skip ahead on any of your videos. I must watch every second of them. I would wait for the prices of these guitars to come down. I think a fair price would be about $800. See you next week.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas, have a great weekend mate! 😎👍
@OTOss8
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always. Dare I ask, would you ever consider a test drive of a PRS SE Silver Sky?
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
I have considered... but as I am not a fan of Strats or the PRS birds I fear it could be a very one sided review that would alienate too many people, so at this point I have steered well clear! 😂
@OTOss8
Жыл бұрын
@@theguitaristas If you'd asked me the question I asked you about 6 or so months ago, I'd have said the exact same thing. PRS? Don't fancy them. Something happened though. Maybe it's a novel reaction to one of the boosters but a few months ago I started, ever so slowly to realize that I am at minimum, curious to hear the thoughts of a reviewer I trust. No pressure at all as even the SEs are still a fair whack of cash. Ah yeah it's just come to me what planted the pea under the mattress of the princess. Tim Pierce had no shortage of very enthusiastic things to say about PRS guitars and that set his pot of porridge to simmering on the back burner there. Tim isn't precisely a reviewer as such though. Tthank you once more for your enthusiasm an dedication. You're really the only guitar reviewer I watch. Cheers from BC. Edit: As far as them screwing you over, you're being much kinder than anyone this side of the pond would be. Over here, what they did is a hangin' offence. Doubly so considering how much business you do with these chaps. I'd be mighty ornery if I were on the receiving end of that sort of treatment. Mighty ornery indeed.
@robpodd8665
Жыл бұрын
I purchased a Gibson Les Paul Tribute Tobacco Burst online from a big guitar website . They confirmed my order 15 minutes later.This was about 11:30 PM.The next morning I called their customer service phone number,on hold like 10 minutes,them when the came on they said THAT GUITAR was bought just before I clicked on it . And the website didn’t update stock until the next morning. I was pissed. It was a blemished one which on this website basically means someone bought it and decided they didn’t want it for one reason or another. Not blemished at all. had to wait three weeks for a blemish one to pop up. And when I received it, it was perfect. Had one of the darkest Rosewood fretboards I’ve ever seen, it was flawless, even had a bit of flame on the top. But I was very upset, because like you said in the video, I saved up money for it, and was excited to get it, and then I had to wait three more weeks before I could get it. Great video as always Collin! Thank you!
@Darth.Shredder
Жыл бұрын
In the US, AMS/Zzounds have had excusive "korina" explorers, V and Modernes for $500-$599 for years and still currently available for $599. These new ones for $1299 have Gibson pickups and a case but that's still a big difference in price. Epiphone "korina" has also always been suspect (veneer/multi pieces, Chinese vs African Limba, etc) so I personally would never fork out $1299 plus tax for a Chinese Epiphone... $599 - yeah, if I liked them.
@Zoso981
Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin, this has happened to me once. Strangely enough, it was an Explorer. I was furious, it took 4 days to get my money back. When I ordered my Adam Jones Veil of Bees online, I was a nervous wreck up until I had the guitar in my hands. Now, I when I order from an online retailer, I make it a point to speak to a live person, noting their name and employee #, confirming they actually have the guitar in stock that I'm ordering.
@paulcopsey6573
Жыл бұрын
Colin, it's because they knew you were (& many others were) "hanging on", the marketing men, sales guys & accountants feel they can push the price point up on these & the other limited run / signature guitars. It just leaves a bad taste. Also to be fair, how many of these are they actually knock out & sell compared to say Les Paul's, SGs, 335s? Dare I say that the Explorer, Flying V & Firebirds are a little more niche? The volume production & sales volume thing kicks in to give Epiphone & ultimately Gibson a good margin across the whole range jacking up the appearance of price of specials compared to the bog standard guitars. Also retailers seem to be having more stock issues these days. I have noticed reduced stock or items marked as out of stock over recent times. Getting stuff into & out of the country these days is a nightmare compared to what it was before. The guitars I want being out of stock is probably for the best in Mrs. C's eyes. 🙂
@AljonGo
Жыл бұрын
Love ya man. Hope you get that guitar soon. There are many great features for those new Korinas. 2-3 pc solid Korina with no veneers is something else. Very resonant and light. Let’s catch up soon.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
😎👍👍
@othermyke
Жыл бұрын
Funny thing I ran into the same problem with this same guitar. Placed an order for it in the US from reputable company. Was listed in stock then got a call that it was out of stock and the next batch wasn’t due in til April. I waited a week and canceled the order and ended up ordering a Gibson les Paul 60s standard. Double the price but it’s a gibson and will hold it’s value. No Epiphone should be over 1k imho if your paying gibson tax it should be a proper gibson.
@ericwarrington6650
Жыл бұрын
Bro I knew you would be so stoked for the news of the new guitars...I'm drooling over the v so hard...I'll def pay it .. thinking about trading my PRS custom 24 for a v but I need to play one first🤘😁
@craigcross4554
Жыл бұрын
I hate to see go through that much trouble. However when you can play with some attitude I love it. Needle and the spoon. Thank you for content.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Craig! 😎👍
@slingman1981
Жыл бұрын
That happend to me too. I bought an explorer off rhe mod shop. I got an email saying congratulations on my purchace. 1 week later i called to find out when will it be shipped. The man on the phone for gibson said he would call me back the next day with an answer. The next day , i received an email that said, "sorry , that guitar is no longer available and my card woyld be crdited. The sad thing is nobody at gibson gave me a call to explain why this happed. Good customer service is the foundation of a good company.
@gernotboesser6901
Жыл бұрын
Rest in Love, Gary Rossington and the Lynyrd Skynyrd Brothers. 🙏
@joehahn8817
Жыл бұрын
Amen brother!!! 😢
@jltrem
Жыл бұрын
I've only played an Explorer once in my life. All I could think of was, "My God, this thing is unwieldy." I've also only played a Firebird twice in my life. Was so excited to be holding a Firebird I couldn't think about how it felt.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
🤣👍 you should get a firebird... £499!
@jltrem
Жыл бұрын
@@theguitaristas Don't tempt me.
@tomnelson5815
Жыл бұрын
The Explorer is very well balanced and comfortable when played standing, strapped. But yes, a bit unwieldy and easy to bung into furniture etc.
@jltrem
Жыл бұрын
@@tomnelson5815 Exactly when I did when trying it out, banged the back end into an amplifier behind me.
@metalliholic
Жыл бұрын
I was so excited for the korina’s as well when I saw them announced and instantly said “nevermind” when I saw the price.
@Eric_01
Жыл бұрын
So, even though the order with Gibson may not have been fully delivered, leaving a backorder, the retailer's receiving department marked the purchase order as fully received. That is likely what populated the stock count. So, it really doesn't matter if Gibson was dragging ass, what matters is that the retailer jumped the gun and didn't properly receive whatever quantity actually did arrive.
@ChristopherClause
Жыл бұрын
The new Epis are $1899 Canadian and I just can't rationalize spending that on an Epiphone. I agree completely with you. I will wait for a sell off :)
@chrisprescottguitar
Жыл бұрын
Really loved the honesty in this one. It’s a great video. The practice of putting holds on cards really needs revisiting. If they can take money in a second it needs to be returned quicker than 5 days!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Yes it doesn't really make any sense does it!
@chrisprescottguitar
Жыл бұрын
@@theguitaristas very frustrating, especially in a cost of living crisis. Love the channel anyway mate, inspired me to have a go myself. Keep up the good work!
@jmartini8875
Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin. I agree. They're too steep on the pricing. I think they had some success doing this with LPs and SGs, and now they keep sliding the price north. Thx for the video. Love the channel. Take care. Cheers.
@steven_uk
Жыл бұрын
I think that the seller is spinning you a yarn. Website problems, but then they change it to "stocking issues". Sounds suspicious. Anyway, here's a suggestion: Andertons have started stocking FGN guitars, which are Japanese made and have a Telecaster style guitar for £549. With the Squier Classic Vibes at £400, it could be a good comparison. Is it worth paying the extra £150 for the FGN?
@mortonwilson795
Жыл бұрын
I was going to mention that, too! The FGN line looks very interesting - Japanese made and the company has an impressive pedigree . . . well worth a look!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely on my radar 👍
@daleturner3507
Жыл бұрын
I had a similar experience with Guitar Center and coincidentally an Epiphone. I ordered a faded cobalt blue SG. After a week it hadn’t arrived and I emailed them. They said they were sorry but it was out of stock. Same thing apparently with someone else ordered the last one when I did. I asked why they hadn’t reached out and let me know. Got an apology and the guy told me he was sending one out. It arrived I went to my local store to pickup. When I got there the guitar had 2 cracks in the pickguard and multiple dents. I haven’t been back to a GC since. It took me 14 days to get my money back.
@andrewbecker3700
Жыл бұрын
That's why it's always best to pay over the phone instead of online. Shop online but always call to purchase. It's an $800 guitar with a hardcase and Burstbuckers. The Bonnamassa 335 is the same price, just like the AJ sigs. Why is everyone tripping over this price?
@bretspangler8717
Жыл бұрын
I got my Korina Flying V a few months ago, getting a Korina Explorer has become a lot more expensive now, I paid $599 without a case for my V. I will eventually get a Firebird and a Thunderbird, I am now saving for when the Explorers come back into stock. The new release nearly doubles the price just to get the case. I might just skip getting a Korina Explorer and go with a painted version, hoping a white Epiphone Explorer is released soon. Confessions of a guitar addict.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to my Guitar addicts support group! 😁👍
@powbarabajagal2435
Жыл бұрын
I agree, what is up with this huge increase for Korina Epiphones with cases? The Moderne I got last year was $539.10 US with free shipping, when Zzounds offered me a discount off the $599. However getting an Epiphone Moderne case was a huge pain, I think I ordered it from Sweetwater on 5/10/2022 and Gibson kept pushing back the delivery date on them. My sales guy kept updating me as Gibson/Epiphone kept giving them different dates they were going to ship them cases. Finally they got them in early January 2023, and I got my case. My case only cost about $118. plus shipping but what a hassle. It wasn’t Sweetwater, it was all on Gibson. But I do love my Korina Moderne. And I am fine with what I paid, thank you Zzounds and Sweetwater.
@wlskyrme2193
Жыл бұрын
Spot on Colin. Well said.👍
@rosskoko100
Жыл бұрын
Well done Colin, this sort of stuff needs to be said. I hope the retailers and brands get to see your video and take some notice. can I also let you know my local and fantastic guitar shop is now a Gibson epiphone official dealer. A Strings, South wales. Cheers ross.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Ross! 😎👍
@pistolgoo
Жыл бұрын
From a guitar retailer employees perspective, this does happen occasionally unfortunately. Most stores will honour in store purchases over online, and the system can take 10-20 minutes to update
@mpj1969
Жыл бұрын
For an item that at cost isn't insignificant, you would expect a company to physically check stock received v invoice produced. I mean we expected 2 and got 1 isn't hard to spot . It's not like they will have had 100s of explorers to Count. So it's still an error on the retailer's part
@TheLadsBandLive
Жыл бұрын
The price is intimidating for an Epiphone. I’ll never own one but, if you can manage to talk yourself into it, would love to see your always-top notch review of this new model.
@richieswell666
Жыл бұрын
I hope you acquire one to review, I'd be interested to see if these are true Korina? Not as light in colour compared to Gibson models? They are expensive yes, here in Australia I see them for approx $2800 & now seen going for $2999, around the £1500 plus mark. I bought a 2019 brand new Gibson Mahogany Explorer for $2500 two years ago. The inventory stock issue is very annoying, it happened to me too. Happy hunting for the Epi though, keep up the good work, love the channel!
@albert2395
Жыл бұрын
I think your spot on, Colin! As Epiphone will become unaffordable to us plebs! And like you say, Gibsons prices are edging on ludicrous! If the likes of Harley Benton, and East Coast raised their prices and at the said time improved their production values? There wouldn't be much point in buying Gibson's, etc.
@rowbags3017
Жыл бұрын
I totally sympathise with your experience - having a guitar shown as available for purchase and "in stock" when it isn't is just an inexcusable cock-up, whatever the reason! And what you say about the funds not being available to purchase a replacement until they're refunded is absolutely valid. Where I do part company slightly is in regards to the price. Compared with when I started playing in the '70s, we're still in a "golden age" of value, despite recent price rises. I had to remind myself of this when ordering the new PRS DGT SE and baulking slightly at its basically £1,000 price tag. But roll back the years to 1978 when I bought my first "serious" guitar - a Gibson "The Paul" (their bottom of the line budget model) for £399. That was serious money for me as a teenager - and it meant Mum vouching for me on the "never-never"! LOL! But £399 in 1978 equates to over £2,000 now! For an entry-level Gibson?... To be fair, I've still got my "The Paul" and it's never let me down. A brilliant no-nonsense gigging axe!
@roguesthoughts8522
Жыл бұрын
Gibson Les Paul Tribute $1299. USD. Everywhere in the USA. Gibson/Epiphone is pushing the Epiphone brand out of reach for those who normally would turn to Epiphone for a lower cost instrument. They are now pushing their customers towards other brands. Harley Benton, ESP, Saw Tooth and so on.
@scottdavidson6066
Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain, Colin. My Jerry Cantrell Wino Les Paul Custom has been back ordered from Zzounds since January 6th. It was due February 8th, then March 8th. Neither date was it shipped, and I’ve no idea when it’ll come. Aggravating!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Scott, do they charge you in full or just deposit?
@iaamusic1121
Жыл бұрын
Quite agree with your sentiments Colin. Price wise I’ve just got an Epiphone Les Paul modern, lovely spec and the right price. I couldn’t see why I’d pay those explorer prices!
@danalopresto3139
Жыл бұрын
Sorry about your experience with the Explorer. It’s definitely overpriced. I had a similar experience with a large music store chain here in the U.S., but with a happy ending. I purchased a Fender Strat Ultra (Texas Tea) online, next day received an email that it would be deliverable 3 months later. I canceled the order and $$ was refunded. 2 weeks later I had a doctors appointment out of state (2 hours away) and passed a huge Mom & Pop music store that specializes in used gear… I’d never been to this store, so I thought it’d be fun to check them out… they had the same Strat (studio used) with 3 tiny scratches and lots of extra case candy. It all worked out in the end, I got the guitar I wanted at a great deal and found a new favorite (not so close) music store. I really enjoy your content!
@stevegroves
Жыл бұрын
Yep that totally sucks mate, their stock control software should be instant. Funny enough I bought a genuine Gibson Explorer few months back from PMT for only a couple of hundred quid more than what they want for these Epi ones! Have to say I piggin love it!. I also have the same Firebird that you were playing and they really are superb! I also like the bit of Skynyrd you played, perfect given the sad passing of Gary Rossington in the last week. Epiphone are pushing it, I bought the 59 LP recently and its awesome for the money but that was still under £700. Great vid as always mate hope you get the guitar one day maybe! Cheers for your channel!
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve! 😎👍
@johnmundt7834
Жыл бұрын
I think the reality is that most places are listing their stuff for sale in multiple places so if it gets bought from one, the others don’t reflect the change in stock right away. I’ve never had it happen on a guitar but pedals and other things. It’s frustrating, sure. When it’s a smaller store I don’t let it bother me cause they have to do it to compete with the Guitar Centers of the world. If a big retailer did it, I’d be furious.
@Dr-Anton-Phibes
Жыл бұрын
That half an hour flew by Colin. You definitely have the knack of making a balls up good viewing 👍
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate that's appreciated! 😁🙏
@forestgreenman
Жыл бұрын
Did you get you guitar or money yet? To make it right and not get a black eye out of this I would think they would go buy one somewhere. I hope it all works out soon as I like your reviews and look forward to seeing it. BTW - I have a Firebird like the one in this video, love it. It was a bit bright edging on harsh, I thought, and am thinking of putting in a set of Mojo Tone Johnny Winter Firebird pups. In the mean time I put a set of GHS brand flat wounds it, .009" stainless steel and that has actually mellowed the tone a bit. Tom Buchavach of the "Home Skoolin'" channel changed out the pots in his vintage Firebird to take the edge off his. Changing the strings is an easier and cheaper fix, for now. Hope all works out for you! CHEERS!
@RealROCKnROLLA
Жыл бұрын
In Germany we have a law for not or not in time providing a service which leads to increased costs on customer's side: the customer can buy a more expensive alternative item and the shop guilty of not providing will have to cover the price difference from their pocket. Which is kinda nice and thoughtful.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Shame other countries don't adopt that... maybe an EU directive is needed but even then Brexit has buggered that up for us Brits 🤷♂️ 😆
@davidbarker3375
Жыл бұрын
i challenged a US seller on price some weeks ago. His answer was that tax, VAT etc, accounted for their inability to reflect currency values in price. Correct or not i dont know.
@kennethjoiner2028
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for your troubles with the Epi. Been there done that, just different stores. Thanks for the impromptu Rossington tribute.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Kenneth 😎👍
@voyager7
Жыл бұрын
I feel your frustration; both for that of not getting the guitar AND for the credit card hassle!
@ltgray2780
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the muck up. But thanks for the Skyn. Brought a tear to an old Yank's eye. Gone, but alive in our hearts.
@theguitaristas
Жыл бұрын
😎🤘👍
@jirdesteva
Жыл бұрын
You sir are correct. That shouldn't happen to anyone. The retailer certainly took your money fast enough.
@russcottee
Жыл бұрын
Even if you accept that Gear For Music did not get the expected quantity that they ordered, then it still raises questions about the integrity of their systems whereby they seemingly don't account for what they've paid for at the time of receipt! 🧐
@sqidvishus
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. At this point one can assume Gear For Music is selling only a promise of a guitar since they listed the inventory for sale before even verifying their order. That's a pretty crap way of running a business.
@johncollins5552
Жыл бұрын
They have a reputation for unreliable service and poor after sales for dealing with issues. Hence the greater success of the superior T man competition!
@michaelkitzmuller1479
Жыл бұрын
Hi Colin, Another note hit on here. I don't know if it's the guitar manufacturers making the prices matched to the U.S. Dollar or the retailers. Which ever the case, when dealing in Pounds or Euros, there should be a lower price than the U.S. Dollar equivalent. In many cases, it is more expensive here in Europe than the U.S. how can that be, I know Fender got their balls planked here in Europe for price fixing. And what's with the others? Shipping costs? Manufacturers costs? It's across the board. I'll say it again, everything is getting more expensive, only the excuses are getting more cheap💩. Well enough windging here, thank you for another great Video and a nice evening to you. Cheers Colin
@peterellison3478
Жыл бұрын
I hada similar problem with Gear 4 music when I recently bought an amp cover. I received the same email as you so I rang them up and they told me that the cover was in their warehouse in Sweden, so wasn't actually in stock (although the website still said that it was). I could have it if I paid extra to ship it from Sweden. I refused and, after much argument, they eventually agreed to ship the cover from Sweden at their expense. It should arrive today. There is clearly a problem with stock control on their website but they have put it right (as long as it does turn up).
@bretspangler8717
Жыл бұрын
I have had a similar weekend, it can be very frustrating and I tend to be overly dramatic when I am talking to customer service, so I know where you were, it always melts away when your guitar finally shows up. I missed out on the Explorer release because I had a guitar lost in shipping. You have to laugh a little later, because how important can guitars be really... confessions of a guitar addict.
@davidrichards6750
Жыл бұрын
Love that Firebird so it was a treat to hear that... I shared exactly your reaction and subsequent thoughts about the pricing of the Explorer and V - really disappointing...
@emil8446
Жыл бұрын
The issue of time lag on returning your money is really not due to the music store, but rather, the banking and credit card industries. I cannot explain why, but I know this as fact from my experience, owning and operating a retail business. I know that it’s not possible for everyone, but your experience is reason to make purchases in person.
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