and between 4 of them, only Ming Ming and Samuel that Carat loves to mention aside SVT bcs they are also working as idols and still in touch with the members...
@ChoiHannaLeia
Ай бұрын
I feel for Samuel but it was right for him at that time! I wish him and everyone else success in whatever they are doing! But for now Seventeen is complete as ot13 forever.....🥹
@sakurakou2009
Ай бұрын
True seventeen already delayed their debut and dino was yet not adult imagine if they had to wait for Samuel to become adult or if he had debut with them they would have been stuck with limited concepts Also seventeen are seventeen cuz the 13 members that make it, they still support Samuel career and do videos with him but as group they are complete the way they are
@ailem2707
Ай бұрын
… except that he ended up debuting before Seventeen did…
@sakurakou2009
Ай бұрын
@@ailem2707 seventeen debut got delayed, they were suppose to debut in 2013 but end up debuting later, so the formation of the group was already done
@Mylife-clueless
Ай бұрын
@@sakurakou2009 it was still really weird how he was too young to be in a group but the still debuted before svt and still extremely young plus in a duo
@AC-ri2ph
Ай бұрын
it's obvious the state of pledis was the reason everyone left
@susanhawson17
Ай бұрын
Samuel is doing so well on his own!! The Seventeen members will always be his brothers!! 🫰🏼🙏🏼🫶🏼💯
@btssvtskztws71386
Ай бұрын
Honestly before being a carat , I'm Samuels fan actually. Sweet revenge 2 was my first kdrama and I was totally whipped for Samuel in there. Gosh If I knew muelie had connection with Svt . I would be carat long time ago .
@Mylife-clueless
Ай бұрын
Samee and samuels ep is fire
@onyxxxh
Ай бұрын
WOAH THIS IS CRAZY..EVEN I'M THE SAME!! It felt like destiny finally being a carat..I knew Samuel bfr svt and that makes it even more meaningful
@Stay_Zerose
Ай бұрын
Good to know some parent's care about their children enough to know that debuting at 11/12 is just not good for their wellbeing
@hhckiss2817
20 күн бұрын
He ended up debuting before Seventeen did
@tataru06
Ай бұрын
I felt bad to the second youngest shin dongjin how his father ruin his image and career to used his son name to lure drink women so that he terminated on the group. I hope his been well and successful also.
@kpop_kdrama_addict
Ай бұрын
Fr
@aditimisal5710
Ай бұрын
Same!! He had a bright future ahead of him but the father ruined it.. He must've went through alot :(
@aditimisal5710
Ай бұрын
I hope he's doing fine now
@marinal.
Ай бұрын
yes i pray for him
@bitsolight
25 күн бұрын
He's doing fine I guess? Found his IG a while back, he just got out of the military. What happened to him was sad tho bcs kid seems to really like dancing, he posts quite a lot of dance covers.
@TangerineIsMyBias
Ай бұрын
Wow,tbh I'm really surprised that ming ming was also from china 😳,if he was still with SVT too, I'm sure he,The8 and Jun would be the trio 😂 and also i felt bad for Samuel 😢, i saw a few couple clips and video moment when he was with SVT,i can see that they really love him 🥹,but it's fine,i still appreciate and grateful with our 13 members ♥️🥰
@AndreaFigueroa-vv8kz
Ай бұрын
Wow,tbh I'm really surprised that ming ming was also from china ,if he was still with SVT too, I'm sure he,The8 and Jun would be the trio and also i felt bad for Samuel , i saw a few couple clips and video moment when he was with SVT,i can see that they really love him 🥹,but it's fine,i still appreciate and grateful with our 13 members
@Anonymous-gu2ki
Ай бұрын
Fact is if mingming and the other 3 stayed, minghao will not be part of svt. Svt debut git delated twice because of lack of financial and the other left the company.
@yulijify2897
26 күн бұрын
@@Anonymous-gu2kinooo, pledis will add the8 or others too. Actually pledis wanna make 17 with 17 members. But the meaning of 17 changed after they left
@LizLiz01
Ай бұрын
I love the love the last guy. He's so talented. 😊
@Multi_Group-stan
Ай бұрын
I hope that wherever they are they would be in good condition
@marinal.
Ай бұрын
ty so much for this. I was curious. Hope they all reach their dreams. Borahae. -NY USA 2019 Army💟
@yuliay1806
Ай бұрын
1:45 Mingming with Hongjoong?!
@kpop_kdrama_addict
Ай бұрын
YEAHH it was at the MAMA awards
@curebeauty2531
Ай бұрын
Even the shoe lit up at the right time 😂
@kpop_kdrama_addict
Ай бұрын
Wrong video maybe 👀😂
@dontshipidolsorillsendyounk_96
Ай бұрын
I knew about all four of them as it's been a while since I've been a Carat, but I must admit, Seventeen members still adore Sameul and I'm really happy to see that, it's truly a blessing to be their fans. I love these 13 men🩷🫶
@rikycahyanugraha594
25 күн бұрын
Actually idol producer its not the first time mingming and the8 know each other. The8 already trainee in pledis before mingming left svt, even the8 say that he and mingming still in touch during ep 2 of that program. And mingming has been told us during magazine interview the reason why he left because he always get punishment for a mistake he didn't make (which mean he got mistreat by pledis) and he can't communicate his difficulties well because his Korean is not that good
@RieCeleste
Ай бұрын
And Samuel got his second chance. I'm happy for him. Just read from a comment that the two out of this four somehow regret leaving the group.
@demonslayer4951
Ай бұрын
Ming ming🐱🐱😂😂
@dinnoorilmi
Ай бұрын
og carat, spill the beans about do-yoon.. ive heard about svt wrote a song dissing him (he was alr problematic to begin with apparently) seventeen is destined to be 13 🙃 a timeline where all of them be a group together would completely be different, so i wouldnt even think about it.. wish good life for 4 of them but id never wish for them to be a part of seventeen **non aggressive way** ✌️
@madkmadk6809
Ай бұрын
There's nothing problematic mentioned about doyoon on this video tho? It says he is cast of a show in korea and actor. If he was problematic why would he still be in the group. Is there something he did that i don't know about? What are u referring to cuz i genuinely don't know
@mel_9346
Ай бұрын
There's nothing official, but! if you listen the mixtape Wally (kzitem.info/news/bejne/zG6ivp-GqYOqdKQ) and listen to S.Coups part (1:20), you may understand something. People say Doyoon and S.Coups were really close, at that time Jeonghan and Joshua were new in the group, and he was his 95 friend, they used to be the parents of Seventeen, so you can have an idea... But Doyoon had luck and got a small acting role and after some months he left the group. Seungcheol had to fill the role of leader when Doyoon left, so I think he felt betrayed and maybe not ready to be the leader, he wans't expecting it, we all know it was difficult for him to be the leader, but destiny works like that, we now have the most amazing leader, and he has his 95 bros that support him :)
@dinnoorilmi
Ай бұрын
@@madkmadk6809 i wasnt referring to 'when they were trainees', only after they debuted.. tbh, the song and the lyrics (sc's line) really familiar with those days back then, DY was in top 3 most popular member and had bigger fan-base (alongside mingyu&wonu) and gained bigger after casting on a drama/movie, but at that time svt's debut was being postponed again.. and again (2014) making all fans lost hope about them debuted and when DY's interview (early 2015) came, he said something a lil bit off about him having no regrets leaving the group (im assuming its bc his passion for acting) and also said that he would be fine on his own (nothings actually wrong with that, he made his choice), but well.. there must be something going on behind the scenes with them that makes SC, VN and MG wrote WALLY (we dont know and will probably never) even tho it isnt official, carats who've been there since day 1 understand this, and the fact that DY auditioned 2 times in SK's top 3 agency after svt debut makes fans speculated even more (2017; he went with MingMing but had no screen time at all unfortunately, so we woudnt know how he had been and why he auditioned after that.. many k-carats now confirmed the rumour that DY left bc he gave up on the group and thought svt wouldnt make it, so he went on his own (as he gained much popularity than other members) things must had been growing unpleasantly with them that makes SC still brought him up after debut (mixtape wally) here, u can check the comments: kzitem.info/news/bejne/x22o3q14jXdeqGksi=SoAaorM6-PXpRoGk
@dinnoorilmi
Ай бұрын
@@madkmadk6809 maybe i came off too strong about DY in my comment above, kkkkk.. but as a carat im actually just emphasizing sc's feelings and how much he went thru all these years (esp those trainee & debut days) .. even when we dont know the full story, ohh i apologize for the choosing word, 'problematic' might sound heavier, im luring new carats to read. but as a human, we all learn from people around us as well as strangers, we can only speculate and filter everything out according to our personality system, so.. its normal to have this kinda feeling, it is not to the point on hating (besides its something from the past thats probably not valid anymore and its useless putting negative energy in the first place on some stranger) and who am i to even judge DY? (he and svt were only a teenager back then, people make mistakes and got their heart torn, but in the end everything worked out perfectly in both sides, each choice has its own consequence) my strong emphasize is just on SVT and their journey against all the odds, im stating it here bc many new carats i came across said something about wishing seventeen to have 17 members, and for me its a lil bit ... itchy. ***kkk sorry*** and bye, have a great life 👋.
@madkmadk6809
Ай бұрын
@@dinnoorilmi ah i see. I didn't know carats had this theory of that guy. I'm not a carat so i didn't know
@oona3073
Ай бұрын
If I'm not wrong Mingming was actually kicked out of SVT in favor of The8 joining the predebut group :/ (I think they just had quota for 2 Chinese members). I've followed his career casually through the years and he actually was even part of nugu Kpop group besides being on Mixnine and Idol producer. It's shame he hasn't gotten the breakthrough in Korea or China, he has the talent and passion for it.
@AnotherHarley
Ай бұрын
No. Mingming left a while before the finale line up was set, the while Minghao only joined 10 months before they officially debuted the same week as the final casting. Minghaos wasn't added until 8 months after mingming left, but he was technically a replacement; mostly because they didn't want to have to keep lowering the numbers of the group; though the didn't have time to get someone to fill in for Sam's spot in the end. Minghao was added into the finale line up the same day he joined Pledis BECAUSE the group had 2 slots for Chinese members and needed one filled, not because mingming was getting kicked out
@baakojernigan7095
17 күн бұрын
I always feel very sorry when it comes to Mingming and Samuel and I'll always support them. Pledis severely mistreated Mingming and Samuel ended up debuting before SVT at a young age anyway... so if it weren't for those circumstances it makes me wonder what could've been with them in the group. I absolutely love SVT how they are and I think what they have as 13 is perfect but sometimes I just wonder y'know?
@justbejailah
Ай бұрын
no one here knows i met samuel🧍🏽♀️
@kpop_kdrama_addict
Ай бұрын
How?? when??
@justbejailah
Ай бұрын
@@kpop_kdrama_addict in korea i was leaving my first class at 1million dance studio and he walked out after me and i was so shocked to see him bc i used to be such a big fan! i knew him before svt 😭 i think it’s one of my korea vlog thumbnails actually!
@kpop_kdrama_addict
Ай бұрын
@@justbejailah LUCKY YOU😭🤍
@viiviviviiv
18 күн бұрын
@@justbejailah girl how were you a big fan of him before seventeen?? when he was 8? 9?
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