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@wolfiexii
2 жыл бұрын
Meh skipped Quark =(
@au9parsec
2 жыл бұрын
The USS EggNog.
@keithtorgersen9664
2 жыл бұрын
@Certifiably Ingame, who is supposed to be the woman in the white dress? She has a beautiful picture.
@Kelvryn
9 ай бұрын
not sure ive ever heard of the destiny timeline.
@Bill23799
2 жыл бұрын
Morn had his genetic code altered to make him appear human. He then used the slingshot effect to go back into Earth's past. He was last seen on Earth lounging on a stool at a local bar in Boston called " CHEERS ". Oh and he changed his name to Norm so no one from the future could find him.
@ShannaNL
2 жыл бұрын
Okay, that made me laugh. Good one.
@christopherthomson2104
2 жыл бұрын
Genius I love it
@lordgigglesnort3845
2 жыл бұрын
Morn neede a break, he's a great guy
@nowinter7355
2 жыл бұрын
easily the top comment.
@Bill23799
2 жыл бұрын
@@nowinter7355 Thank you.
@6xCamox9
2 жыл бұрын
"O'Brian to Sisko" "Go Ahead" "Permission to leave the station?" "For what reason?" "To give the Dominion back their bomb" "....Permission granted..."
@Culdcepter
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of something along these lines, glad someone figured it out for me.
@arthurchadwell9267
2 жыл бұрын
O'Brien was Star Fleet's Master Chief...
@BigMackWitSauce
2 жыл бұрын
I think I remember an interview from Avery Brooks being against the ending of DS9 for the purpose of he thought it was important to portray Sisko as a very involved father and didn't like the idea of him going to live with wormhole aliens for a potentially long time. So Brooks would probably pick the he returned for the birth of his child ending
@ErickSoares3
2 жыл бұрын
And I remember that he said that he became "ok" with the finale when they let implicit that Sisko would return and woudn't leave his family alone forever.
@Joesolo13
2 жыл бұрын
@@ErickSoares3 Yea some complain about him returning after only a few months but I can't imagine he'd want to miss the birth of his second child for anything. Jake's pretty much grown by then, being away for a few months isn't so much an issue, but Ben wouldn't want to be away from him long either
@CrossKnights
2 жыл бұрын
"The Sisko is of Bajor but will find no rest there". Sisko was supposed to pay a price for not listening to the prophets and having them intervene with the large Fleet of ships. I always got the impression it wouldn't be his choice to just come back whenever he wanted to.
@stuartjohnson5686
2 жыл бұрын
Did they forget that in one episode he gets stuck in some strange time loop thing and growing up without him makes Jake crazy. He is obbsssesd with rescuing his father, stops writting, allienats the woman who loved him and ends up commiting suicide because he decides he's the one holding his father in the time loop. So having him disappear again for any extended time will be bad for Jake, again.
@sertorrhenclegane
11 ай бұрын
@@stuartjohnson5686Just because it happened in that one episode doesn't mean it will happen after the finale. The Jake from that episode (as well as that timeline) do not exist anymore. Jake didn't lose his father to some mad, spontaneous anomaly, he lost him to fate. In truth, he doesn't really lose him at all. Add on to the fact that Jake is now a grown man as opposed to a teenager, he'll probably have a better understanding of his father's destiny. He may not like it, but he'll probably understand it.
@jameswarren7999
2 жыл бұрын
Nog beating the Kobayashi Maru by negotiating until the system crashed should've been in this. Inexcusable.
@RandomAmerican3000
2 жыл бұрын
How could he negotiate when all communication gets jammed?
@dickmarx1298
2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomAmerican3000 Ferengi privilege Lol
@Skulduggery_G
2 жыл бұрын
Please tell me this is true
@RandomAmerican3000
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skulduggery_G Secondary canon, appears in the short story Best Tools Available, in "Strange New Worlds VI".
@jameswarren7999
2 жыл бұрын
@@Skulduggery_G It was in one of the books. Would probably make a great short though.
@daviddesrosiers1946
2 жыл бұрын
Nog's story arc in and out of canon are one of my favorites. Quite the evolution from the petty thief, running nefarious errands for Uncle Quark.
@kristiannoel4866
2 жыл бұрын
Aron Eisenberg's portrayal of him was brilliant as well.
@daviddesrosiers1946
2 жыл бұрын
@@kristiannoel4866 Yes indeed. Very sad, his passing.
@jacobbecket1412
2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddesrosiers1946 Very much so. Aron was a childhood friend of mine. Always a bright light despite lifelong illness.
@menisme
2 жыл бұрын
it makes me well up in tears that they named a ship after him. when i found out i was so ecstatic about it. still am.
@wyqtor
2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddesrosiers1946 And Odo (Rene Auberjonois) too. May he find peace in the Great Cosmic Link.
@DrankenDune
2 жыл бұрын
Part 2 is a must.
@DrownedInExile
2 жыл бұрын
Need to hear about Garak's future. Considering the far future Federation has a half-Cardassian President, the Cardassian Union obviously went through a lot of changes after the Dominion War. Garak would have been at the forefront.
@laurarules3642
2 жыл бұрын
I'm probably in the minority here but I think Garak was one of Star Treks greatest characters. I can't think of any that had as many layers as him. When you think about he was a cold blooded killer and he was casually having breakfast and lunch with Doctors and engineers . Then again I wonder if anybody has ever done a kill count for star fleet officers I bet O' Brian, Kirk, Sisko and Work have killed dozens of people
@clarkmcinnis6152
2 жыл бұрын
ST: Online Used him several times as a diplomatic liaison for missions. I forget his 'ranking' so to speak, but it alluded to him being something like a Senator or other Gov't Official and a prominent member of the Cardassian Government
@chrissegee
2 жыл бұрын
There is a novel that talks about what happened to Garak ( spoiler he becomes the leader of free Cardassia)
@Justaoldspacemarine
2 жыл бұрын
@@clarkmcinnis6152 he is a councilor and I’m pretty sure but might be wrong but he’s the leader of the union
@hansakkerman2611
2 жыл бұрын
@@laurarules3642 Garak's my favourite too. There's the excellent "A Stitch in Time" written by his actor Andrew Robinson, who has a unique perspective on the character. Set right after the last episode of DS9, it delves into Garak's past and present, as he comes to terms with his upbringing, subsequent career in the Obsidian Order and how living on DS9 has changed him. All the while a devastated Cardassia must decide how to go forward and fundamentally change as a nation and people. Highly recommended!
@seannemo8076
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never liked the idea of Ezri becoming a Captain. I think that she would be better remaining as a Counselor. Not because I have anything against the character; I _like_ Ezri. My problem is that people seem to equate being a Captain with the greatest possible achievement. What little we see of Ezri shows her to be an outstanding Counselor. I have no doubt that she could easily achieve a position as Chief Counselor at any command, and possibly a position at Starfleet Headquarters running the entire Mental Health Division. But then I think the idea that there is only one counselor aboard any vessel or station is ridiculous. Counseling (or Mental Health) should be a section within the Medical Department, answering to the Chief Medical Officer and with the ability to go directly to the CO in certain situations. Their _direct_ counseling responsibilities should be only for the Command Staff (Including the Captain) and possibly special cases that subordinate counselors can’t handle (like, say, Lt Barkley). I think part of the point I’m trying to make is that having Ezri transfer to the Command Division minimizes the importance of what she does as a Counselor. Keeping her as a Counselor would not only develop the character in a more realistic direction, but it could also be used to develop the canonical structure of Starfleet Medical’s organization.
@christopherthomson2104
2 жыл бұрын
Wow you have throughly thought that out. I’m Impressed
@essaboselin5252
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with this. It's one of the many problems with the books. The writers have fallen into a cliche that only captains have a successful career, and it's the end goal of all Star Fleet personnel.
@DoloresJNurss
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I can also see Alexander Roshenko mustering out of military service among the Klingons after the Dominion war (since war is obviously not his forte) to join Starfleet as their first Klingon counselor. I always rankled at the allegation that Data was unfit to hold a command position just as Klingons were unfit to be counselors. Alexander would be great at it! Granted, I can see him pioneering a distinctively Klingon-flavored therapy involving holodeck battles with one's inner demons (until the patient can get to the point of negotiating with them) that would be one for the books!
@oldtwinsna8347
2 жыл бұрын
Also nothing wrong with just being a technical specialist - a counselor in this case. Not being a chief, supervisory, or other figure, just being a regular specialist who makes an impact and enjoys what they do. I know that episode in TNG where Picard tells Q how he's a dreary old man when Q changed the timeline, forcing Picard to rise up exclusively as a blue shirt scientist, but not everybody is cut out for a leadership position in charge of so many lives. Not many want it. Huge perks NOT being in charge of other people.
@seannemo8076
2 жыл бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 Exactly. Imagine an Engineering crewman who just loves crawling through the ducts to troubleshoot a problem, and can diagnose an issue by ear… Crewman: _Cocks his head to the side_ “Sir, I think a manifold is out of alignment…” Lt: “I doubt it; we just installed them last week” _Chief checks the display_ Chief: “No, sir he’s right. Manifold B is off by about 5.2 microns.” Crewman: _sighs_ “Yard dogs probably didn’t clean the packing grease out of the intake valves again” _stands up and looks to the Lt_ “Should take me about 20 minutes to fix, sir.” Chief: “Take T’Von and Katchin with you. Be a good lesson for them.” Crewman: “Aye, Chief” _Leaves_ Lt: “How?!” Chief: “He’s been doing this longer than _I_ have, sir. I’ve learned to trust his ear.”
@MikeTsBees
2 жыл бұрын
You got cut off there at the end I'll take it from here. Morn gets caught in a trading deal that goes sideways. Luckily he manages to talk his way out it. But ends up stuck on the Breen home world. Through clever negotiations and quick-witted speech he ends up next to the Breen high Queen. She falls madly in love with him. But it's a hard fault love mainly because she lives in a completely different environment than him. And the story continues.
@singletona082
2 жыл бұрын
Lets be fair. If we were to start going into Morn's exploits? We'd be here all day.
@dreamphoenix000
2 жыл бұрын
Bah. That Morn. He just can’t keep his mouth shut.
@rumrunner8019
2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved for more to have said just one word on the show. I would have been great if in the last episode he drinks something and, in a voice over by Barry White, says "yeah."
@msgsgt
2 жыл бұрын
I got to admit, that was a pretty engaging episode you just recapped about what happen to Morn.
@buckrodgers1162
2 жыл бұрын
Oh come on! We all know Morn is still sitting at Quarks, doing nothing, saying nothing, and moving nothing. Just like he always is.
@ash12181987
2 жыл бұрын
Master Chief Petty Officer Obrien is all I needed to get through my day. Thank you.
@DoloresJNurss
2 жыл бұрын
I always pictured Kira having to face the same awkwardness that Cisco did when he was declared the Emissary, because those who worshiped changelings would see her as The Beloved--a madonna-like mortal whose romance with an alienated part of the Founders enabled them, with Odo's reunion, to truly love solids. They were see her as an intercessor and supplicate her for prayers on their behalf.
@saphirebandit93
10 ай бұрын
That is honestly perfect, will be taking this for my own head cannon.
@chrislouden6702
2 жыл бұрын
My brother worked on this show regularly and I got to attend the last filming and tour much of the set! I got to keep some items too and meet Louise Fletcher
@mikey2363
2 жыл бұрын
Was the set as impressive at it appeared on screen? For me DS9 is one of the greatest sets ever built.
@williamkopko5775
2 жыл бұрын
My friend Michael setterfield also help on the show too that would be great to see the cast
@wendelfears1027
2 жыл бұрын
Quark went on to opening casinos all across the outback quadrant. In the first episode of picard. You'll see a scene where it shows on Earth casinos and in the limelight you'll see the name QUARK'S
@shinyagumon7015
2 жыл бұрын
I like that Miles ends up helping the Cardasians recover, a nice end to his ongoing inner conflict regarding the Cardasians war.
@reefterry1893
2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the USS Nog added to Discovery as a tribute to Aron Eisenberg after his unexpected death in 2019. The Nog is said to be an Eisenberg class vessel.
@Blamcore
2 жыл бұрын
Oh! I didn't know he died...
@CertifiablyIngame
2 жыл бұрын
Yes it was, :( But adding it as a reference also adds it to the canon, so there is a legacy for both!
@cfltheman
Жыл бұрын
Also the USS Yelchin.
@kbtken
2 жыл бұрын
Being the first of his species to join Star Fleet then becoming a Captain is reason enough for Nog to have a ship named after him
@chrismc410
2 жыл бұрын
And being one of the very few to legitimately beat the Kobayashi Maru
@Waterboyofsuperman
2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the excellent film, “What We Left Behind,” where several of the big writers get together and put together the start of a prospective eighth season 20 or so years after DS9. They come up with a very clever premise. Would love to see it realized somehow, someway.
@ODST_Parker
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting note: In Star Trek Online, Miles' son Kirayoshi O'Brien serves as the Chief Engineer of the Enterprise F under Captain Shon.
@AvatarRiku
2 жыл бұрын
Kasidy Yates became the chief medical officer on the Orville.
@vortimerofkent128
2 жыл бұрын
He's not the Emissary, he's just a very naughty boy!
@poppedweasel
2 жыл бұрын
We all saw what happened to Jake, he grew up to become Kurn.
@lo-boy6956
2 жыл бұрын
This and Babylon 5 are the best science fiction series ever made that even now I still watch both on a regular basis... And always will.
@Jubilian3000
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! They are masterpieces of Sci-Fi!
@alext5497
2 жыл бұрын
Farscape is wine and these shows are beer
@scottbrassington2309
2 жыл бұрын
Battlestar Galactica would like a word with you
@Marconius6
Жыл бұрын
Picard with Worf as his Number One, now that's a movie I want to see...
@Wyrmshadow
2 жыл бұрын
the actress that played Ezri went from cute to really beautiful over the last 20 years. Nana Visitor barely changed except for getting platinum white hair.
@snit22
5 ай бұрын
She was always beautiful.
@saintofselhurst
2 жыл бұрын
O'Brien as the Master Chief. Totally believe this
@weresmurf5731
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, as a life long DS9 diehard fan, these sort of informative videos are a pleasure to watch :) Thank you so much! :)
@toddcole1805
2 жыл бұрын
Nog had the best character growth in Star Trek
@essaboselin5252
2 жыл бұрын
I think it says a lot about the show that even third-tier characters on DS9 had more growth than any of the top characters from the other shows.
@toddcole1805
2 жыл бұрын
@@essaboselin5252 very true
@exilestudios9546
2 жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart that we will never get a Runion show like Picard for the ds9 cast due to so many cast members having passed.
@trollerpilotxiv3079
2 жыл бұрын
Better it be left off on a high note than get botched like current shows
@exilestudios9546
2 жыл бұрын
@@trollerpilotxiv3079 for what reason could you possibly think that the new shows have been "botched" and please note that that if you use the terms "Woke", "SJW", or "Mary Sue" your argument will not be taken seriously
@trollerpilotxiv3079
2 жыл бұрын
@@exilestudios9546 None of those. I just feel like they don't fit the tone of the original Star Treks. I feel like they're trying to go for the typical "darker and edgier" route that's worked for so many shows of the 2010s, and I feel like it just doesn't work the same way it did with DS9.
@exilestudios9546
2 жыл бұрын
@@trollerpilotxiv3079 have your forgotten how dark DS9 was? that show had some shit in it that made modern trek seem tame by comparison. the only thing "dark" about modern trek is the lighting sure it plays arround with dark themes and ideas but it always leaves off with some sort of happy ending by the end of the season DS9 didn't do that when it went dark it didn't just handwave it away with a good feelings season finally where all the problems get resolved in the final 5 min it let us feel it in all of its fucked up glory.
@trollerpilotxiv3079
2 жыл бұрын
@@exilestudios9546 I mentioned that it doesn't work the way it did with DS9. I dunno, maybe that's just how I perceive it
@rumrunner8019
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. My number one wish is that Warf finds himself a wife who *doesn't* meet an untimely death. That, and that Quark finally gets that moon he always wanted it.
@durhamdavesbg4948
2 жыл бұрын
Quark is said to own a moon in the STO timeline.
@pablohammerly448
2 жыл бұрын
@rum runner: Worf* 🙄
@Robert-ht7om
2 жыл бұрын
In STO he does, the Klingon woman who at one time was married to Quark, they meet after he accepts the role of ambassador and marry, even having a son together later on.
@Nickelodeon81
3 ай бұрын
Earth's Moon...
@ReaperSigma
2 жыл бұрын
Worf becoming Captain for the Enterprise feels very well earned to me.
@Peregrine57
2 жыл бұрын
It makes sense that STO kept the original DS9, since, if we're following on from the shows, that's the one we'd want to see and inhabit in-game. But, it might be interesting to see some future STO story arc explore a crossover with the Destiny timeline, maybe even in collaboration with some of the authors if they're interested. Give us a chance to explore the new DS9 rebuilt to Starfleet spec and such.
@singletona082
2 жыл бұрын
I just see Miles touring the 'new' station and. 'Who designed this? It's.... addressed literally EVERY complaint i have ever had and then some.' 'you did sir.'
@necromycus
2 жыл бұрын
STO has an event where you basically have both prime DS9 and Mirror/Terran Terok Nor in the same space. It's fun. They could easily do a similar scenario with a rebuilt DS9... So many timelines.
@kwkcardinal
2 жыл бұрын
Fuuuuuuck literally everything about the destiny timeline. Completely irredeemable.
@MrAshleyR
2 жыл бұрын
Kurland, here. Well done, well done indeed.
@leemcgann6470
2 жыл бұрын
Huge Treky here. DS9 is my 2nd or3rd favorite trek. Mainly due to all the Klingon involvement. Enterprise is my first
@SportsCentreLo
2 жыл бұрын
Watching DS9 right now!
@3rdpig
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite characters from DS9 were Quark and Garak. I'm looking forward to the next video to find out what happened to them.
@viciousyeen6644
2 жыл бұрын
From what we see in Startrek:Lower Decks, Quark at least expanded his bar into a franchise
@oktopussy9628
2 жыл бұрын
I think they got married. There is a clip with the two actors are reading a scene, where Bashir is coming back home from a medical conference.
@cybercifrado
2 жыл бұрын
Likely enjoying a pint of root beer in one of Quark's holosuites.
@arthurchadwell9267
2 жыл бұрын
Quark, O'Brien and Garek...
@sixoffcenter80
Жыл бұрын
Quark finally become rich when he starts a briskness selling rootbeer to other Ferengi
@claytonberg721
2 жыл бұрын
I think the DS9 season 8 pitch in what we left behind deserved a shout out. That was something that came from what were some of the most influential writers to have ever worked on star trek. In my tiny brain that makes it canon, moreso than novels or video games. But what the hell do I know.
@BradFoust1826
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the Captain Kurland reference.
@Corbomite_Meatballs
2 жыл бұрын
"Kurland here!"
@demonchild327
2 жыл бұрын
4:10 Also in STO, O’Brian becomes the Chief Engineer of the U.S.S. Enterprise-F, under the command of Captain Va’Kel Shon.
@titanwilkins4044
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved DS9 I rewatch it so often
@francishunt562
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, do you have a favourite episode? Mine are 'The visitor' and 'In the pale moonlight'.
@titanwilkins4044
2 жыл бұрын
@@francishunt562 so many favorites
@Obez45
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Julian become the prince of dorne on that primitive planet that has weird weather seasons?
@vitoaugello1677
2 жыл бұрын
I always amazed how everyone turns out with amazing and exciting careers. No one dies or fails, goes to the dark side, retires. Nope just continues with amazing and exciting life. I wish real life was so stimulating. Lol.
@mikey2363
2 жыл бұрын
Let’s leave them be - just look at what the Nu Trek writers have done to 7 of 9!
@vitoaugello1677
2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t checked that out yet. I’m sure jeri Ryan is still hot as hell. Can’t disappoint the trek nerds. Lol.
@lil18thletterking77
2 жыл бұрын
You do have a point
@benreed9952
2 жыл бұрын
“Under the command of Captain Kurland here” 😂😂
@shmee123ful
2 жыл бұрын
it seems odd there is any thought given to the humble dress shop owner Garak but it is nice you and star trek has a love for this humble and completely un notable back ground character
@singletona082
2 жыл бұрын
His lungeons with Julian were nice bits of focus for the young still wet behind the ears overly optimistic doctor to get a bit of local perspective. Plus there is that story where he found himself as a gardener on Romulas. He is a man of many talents and he offers a surprising degree of situational insight.
@shmee123ful
2 жыл бұрын
@@singletona082 indeed, it's a wonder how such a humble and unimportant person was able to go so many places and do so much and gain such live experience. Truly a showcase of how even the most unremarkable of us can live a full and rich life
@demetrinight5924
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely hope Captain Sisco returned to his family. My favorite series of events that you mentioned is the one where he moved to Bajor.
@cybercifrado
2 жыл бұрын
The episode where Jake tried to pull his father out of the time-phase accident freaking wrecked me. Sisko had it rough with Jennifer, no doubt. He deserves some peace and happiness.
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
2 жыл бұрын
We need that second video! I’m just dying to find out what happened to Molly. I’m sure that’s at the top of all of our lists! 😂 Seriously though, if Quark doesn’t at least own a whole star system in one of these timelines, I’m going to be seriously peeved.
@necromycus
2 жыл бұрын
I mean he has a moon... Rom is Grand Negas with lita at his side in STO as well. Best outcomes IMO.
@necromycus
2 жыл бұрын
Oh and he does get a really cool overpowered Marauder.
@jacara1981
2 жыл бұрын
He does get his own Bar on another planet (maybe a franchise) as seen in Season 1 of Picard.
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
2 жыл бұрын
@@jacara1981 haven’t watched that yet. Don’t have that streaming service, and haven’t bothered trying to pirate it.
@RaulSmith
2 жыл бұрын
I just want him to have that moon he was always groaning about. The moon is named Quark's, because of course it is. And it's the largest gambling establishment in the entire quadrant. Because it's a moon.
@charlessmyth
2 жыл бұрын
It was a good series. Last month -- before they disappear into the void of the streaming-media timeline -- I got the entire set of DVDs that include the dialogue of the audio tracks in English, German, Spanish and Italian. Odo sounds the business in German :-)
@recoil53
2 жыл бұрын
Everybody does in German. I mean, it's not a great sounding language for romantic scenes or slick con men types.
@sugarfrosted2005
2 жыл бұрын
I want Ezri x Bashir x Garak canon. It's the throuple Star Trek deserves.
@singletona082
2 жыл бұрын
I could see them being a sortof simi open relationship.
@mizeounao
2 жыл бұрын
@@singletona082 they're in the O'Brien polycule already
@harbingerofsarcasm2510
2 жыл бұрын
Ok yeah, this is the only real solution.
@maggierestivo5256
2 жыл бұрын
I just can't get behind Ezri and Bashir for any reason. Bashir's a twit. I can only picture Ezri mentally rolling her eyes whenever he opens his mouth, whereas Garak would tolerate him, because Bashir's twittiness amuses him, and he's good in bed. That's my head cannon, anyway. (Until Garak leaves Bashir for Loki of Asgard, but that's a whole other multiverse head cannon of mine. Heh.)
@radionoakmont7756
2 жыл бұрын
always great to see both timelines and knowing what happened to our fave characters and events as well thank you Certifiably ingame this rocks looking froward to part 2
@DarthFetid
2 жыл бұрын
I love the in depth backstory you did on morn. I seriously didn't know that.
@CertifiablyIngame
2 жыл бұрын
It's all there in his dialogue!
@filanfyretracker
2 жыл бұрын
surprised they never mentioned what Nog did to get a ship named after him, I know the IRL version was the actor died.
@anno78
2 жыл бұрын
1) The novels were the "official continuations" of TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY, so are the true prime timeline (this includes spin-off novel series). 2) STO has been revealed to be 100% an alternate timeline. The creators have stated this as fact, and a novel in says the same. 3) CBS have created their own prime timeline (leaked during DISC season 1), and have made many continuity changes (history, ship designs, TOS uniforms before TOS, tech, etc). Thanks to CBS's messing around with the franchise, the true prime timeline of the novels has now been destroyed in the Coda Trilogy. Years of storylines and character developments have been washed away (beloved characters killed off, ships destroyed), and an opportunity to reveal CBS's shows as an alternative timeline has been wasted. I weep for what is happening to a beloved franchise.😢😭
@DavidHHH99
2 жыл бұрын
Point three is false. It's a conspiracy theory created by extremists who hate all modern Trek. Don't spread extremist lies.
@shanenolan8252
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@ChairmanMo
2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%
@maddllamakmh1040
2 жыл бұрын
One thing I love about STO is how deft they were in closing up open-ended storylines from the shows... even the smallest ones you would not think of needing closure on.
@andyhull9182
2 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, can always make few new ZEN store ships availeable for 30euros with any new inconsequential thing... :d
@Dathansmith91
2 жыл бұрын
What about Jake Sisco and Garak?
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long it would take before humanity just straight up ran out of historical names to give things, and either have to make up new ones or start using ones from alien cultures
@delwynandrews6514
2 жыл бұрын
@certifibale ingame with kira being in command of ds9 would be a full circle and great , as in the beginning it was a byjoran station with command being starfleet, that make it starfleet Station with a byjoran in command
@MaskedGEEK
2 жыл бұрын
What ever happened to Morn, just remember: Who Mourns for Morn? The guy would never stop talking. Would love to see his potential future examined in part 2.
@Cdr2002
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that there is a Starfleet ship named after Jackie Robinson is amazing
@agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz
2 жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to read the books, but I already got a shitload of titles on my reading list, plus I doubt Trek works that well in a non-visual medium. The costumes, places, and, most importantly, the perfomances are what make this show so charming and fantastic.
@Thurgosh_OG
2 жыл бұрын
Then you need to start with reading classic trek novels, then onto Next Gen, etc. in the order they came out as TV series. That way your imagination will have references to help it.
@alexandrorocca7142
2 жыл бұрын
I really hoped for a series in the Gamma quadrant with Nog as Number one on a Federation starship.
@brianstiles1701
2 жыл бұрын
Even though he got the center seat of the Enterprise, the novel did Worf how he got it. Jean-Luc basically promoted him via text from Earth, no change of command ceremony or anything.
@singletona082
2 жыл бұрын
In fairness I don't think Worf would have wanted all the pomp. Just getting his new orders, pin the new pip to his collar, and settle into the big chair.
@Rammstein0963.
2 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Just how Klingons like it, no unnecessary frills, just "get to work".
@lil18thletterking77
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rammstein0963. I'm sure it depends on the klingon in question klingons aren't all cookie cutter ya know
@thewhitepanther6052
2 жыл бұрын
My favourite star trek series! Ds9 will always be the best!
@saintofselhurst
2 жыл бұрын
STO is clear with Worf. The Enterprise-E is destroyed by Species 8472 and Worf returns to Qo'nos once Martok was defeated for his Chancellorship
@seanwhitman8353
2 жыл бұрын
He remains an Ambassador, but also becomes gin'tak to the House of Martok and marries Grilka and has a daughter Koren, who becomes captain of the I.K.S. Bortesqu
@ffnbbq
2 жыл бұрын
@@seanwhitman8353 Word is Michael Dorn was unhappy with STO's development of Worf. I suspect he (correctly) believes Worf would never turn against Starfleet.
@seanwhitman8353
2 жыл бұрын
@@ffnbbq He probably would have tried to prove if the Klingon Empire was right
@Mofock1986
2 жыл бұрын
i love STO, not the best it could be, but ALL the lore you get and stories it's pretty fun for a Star Trek Fan tbh
@teufeldritch
2 жыл бұрын
2:05 "..Kurland, here." lol nice STO DS9 mission reference.
@nPcDrone
2 жыл бұрын
My most loved series. Space station setting was pure genius . It got me interested in Babylon 5.
@scotttild
2 жыл бұрын
You know paramount stole a lot of the themes for DS9 form JMS when he pitched B5 to them. Still kind of irks me JMS got screwed by paramount.
@nPcDrone
2 жыл бұрын
@@scotttild I did read that, B5 wasn't on my scope till then
@Joe-wyo
2 жыл бұрын
O brian becomes chief engineer of the enterprise F in the on the online series. Work makes mention of this on one of the mission. some of the online aspects, missions, and stories are being brought into the main star trek prime timeline thanks to star trek picard and lower decks. Season 2 of Picard is a great example of this thanks to them bringing in some ships from the online into the series. The online has also include discovery aspects as well. So wouldnt be surprised if the other books or other online stories are brought to be cemented in the prime line.
@CelticCubby
2 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised you didn't include the "What we left behind" documentary version of characters fates since it was with much of the writing team from DS9.
@bobthecopywriter
2 жыл бұрын
What about a certain Plain & Simple Tailor?
@jdsclassof09
2 жыл бұрын
Garaks story in the books is, of course, the most interesting in my opinion.
@nixravette
2 жыл бұрын
"Under the command of Captain Kurland... here." I see what you did there.
@RaulSmith
2 жыл бұрын
But what almost any good DS9 fan wants to know is this: Did Quark ever get that moon he was always bemoaning about?
@dragonweyr44
2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Quark, Rom and Leeta? Brunt?
@danmurgy9125
2 жыл бұрын
In STO, Quark keeps running his bar but has set up the Lobi Consortiumm, which has made him rich enough to buy a moon and terraform it, once he can get the tech for it. Rom is still Grand Nagus, and has managed to introduce publically funded institutions to Ferengi society, along with signing a deal for exclusive construction rights for every new ship commissioned by the Cardassian Union, which silences a lot of his detractors who said he "lacked the lobes for business". He and Leeta are still married, with Leeta often providing advice and undertaking projects of her own, including planning one of the key missions of the H'urk invasion. Brunt dowsnt quite achieve success as he had hoped, and works with Quark and Rom on their plan to retrieve the Sword of Kahless for T'Ket. He tries to betray them but is himself betrayed by the captain he had hired, a Ferengi named Madrin, because Quark outbid Brunt. Bonus fact, Mirror Leta is a big deal and causes trouble for the players of STO, along with becoming a reluctant ally in the most recent storyline
@wmlau69
2 жыл бұрын
In the “Star Trek: Countdown”, Picard was the admiral in charge of the evacuation plan for the Romulans and during this time period, Worf was commanding a Klingon vessel.
@leejohnstone894
2 жыл бұрын
Nog becomes only the second cadet to beat the no-win scenario. He bribe the Romulans...yes I said Romulans because ever since the Klingon/Federation peace treaty the Kobayashi Maru test was change from three Klingon ships to three Romulan ships
@rdgk1se3019
2 жыл бұрын
The three books in the "CODA" series books basically invalidate every book in the Star Trek universe from the movie "Star Trek First Contact" forward in order to have the TV series "Picard" and "Discovery".
@hughsmith7504
2 жыл бұрын
I mean deleting the entire universe is a bit much, but it does tie everything up fairly nicely :)
@dr.garretsshow
2 жыл бұрын
Wait what is this book series?
@kyrusdrax2664
2 жыл бұрын
@@hughsmith7504 because at that point there isn't anything left to tie up.
@kyrusdrax2664
2 жыл бұрын
@@hughsmith7504 because at that point there isn't anything left to tie up.
@jjl207
2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.garretsshow Star Trek CODA. The last of the three book series came out in November of last year. Essentially, it’s made clear that the book timeline didn’t happen, and in fact SHOULDN’T have happened. No refunds for all the books we bought though.
@kairon156
2 жыл бұрын
Very good overview. I do like Julian staying with Ezri Dax even though I always had a crush on her. I also agree with your choices for where you would like characters to end up.
@thedragonlee76
2 жыл бұрын
Why DS9 was great,was because Sisco and Starfleet and the crew werent trying to discover new worlds,but dealing with the different alien fractions and trying to maintain peace and understanding.
@gregglesmigregglesmi3633
9 ай бұрын
OMG! The Morn gag at the end!!!!!!!! POINTS!!!!!! Well played man!!!
@thewalkingdude7464
2 жыл бұрын
Sisko is the best captain in the entire Star Trek universe.
@russell28533
2 жыл бұрын
Nog was destined to do great things. He had to have the opportunity to chart his own path and not what was expected of him as a Ferengi. Don't try to be a great man. Just be a man, and let history make its own judgements.
@clarkmcinnis6152
2 жыл бұрын
On Kira Nerys, you left off Opaka... On ST: Online, the story has Kai Kira receive direction from the Prophets that it was time that Kai Opaka returned to Baior. I forget the details, but with the help of Dr. Julian Bashir, Kira returns to the planet where they were forced to leave Opaka and cures the condition which kept her there. Capt. Kira stepped aside to allow Opaka to return to Bajor as Kai, feeling that returning Bajor's 'True Kai' had been Prophet's Path for her and why she came to power to begin with.
@Nerdnotwashere
2 жыл бұрын
Now that is a Kai version of Kira I can get behind!!
@deathstrike
11 ай бұрын
I could have seen Worf head a new division of Starfleet. A non Section 31 unit. And while military in its scope, it often functions as a primary peacekeeping force, called when a starship is entering a potentially dangerous situation and requires a show of strength. However, it is also called upon to carry out special "missions" that are of interest to the Federation and it's allies. This division has an incredible heritage. It draws upon centuries of both Terran and Klingon Special Forces. It is a combination of Army Rangers/Seals/Green Beret/Delta Force and the Klingon Dahar masteries. They utilized very spartan, but VERY powerful and dangerous ships like the Enterprise E/G, the Defiant Advanced, and with recent upgrades to the venerable Bird of Prey and Vor'cha class battle cruisers, they have become Starfleet's most powerful force projection in its history. They are like the Targ and the Terran Lion. Stealthy and powerful predators. They are............The Shadow Legion. Starfleet Special Charter 42. The SSC is devoted to one purpose: "Speak softly, but carry a BIG stick". Wise words from former President Theodore Roosevelt of Old Earth. And with Captain Worf Roshenko of the House of Roshenko, House of Martok, Bane and slayer of the Duras Family, slayer of Gowron the Unwise and heir to the Chancellorship of the Klingon Empire, and Dahar Master commanding this unit, the Federation's enemies better behave, or be bested in the field of honor.
@Freddie1980
2 жыл бұрын
Please do a part 2, what made DS9 so good was the diverse set of non federation characters
@3dfly657
2 жыл бұрын
But what happened with garek, Jake, quark, rom, and morn?
@kathrynjaneway5346
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video that helps us report the endless issues on STO. Technical ones mainly. Tried DMing the devs for STO, tried making support tickets, tried their discord.....all a bit rubbish in terms of customer support. They appear to be more interested in making more ships for us to buy than fixing the problems. I have spent into the thousands of pounds on STO and been a loyal player for 11 years, think some sort of loyalty reply is due. SO if you make a video about STO maybe others will comment and with enough support maybe the devs would take notice? When I say issues with STO I am talking about many bugs and endless never ending loadout problems. I run a Fleet on STO and a discord community mainly for RP and a lot of my people have the same problems so I am representing them as much as I am myself. Any sorta feedback or a video would be smashing, Thank you indeedy xx
@andyhull9182
2 жыл бұрын
It's a devious game, closest game to Starfleet Command game you have nowadays (space combat) which is why I play it prolly aand it is Star Trek.. But you are right about the problems and content, hasn't been any real new content in ages, just stuff tied to microtransactions + right from tutorial the thing is filled with bugs. Got stuck in the new federation tutorial so hard I had to make a new character since ticket went unanswered for days. I played alot when the dyson sphere stuff was going and just recently made a new char. Wish they did a proper 2.0 with new engine etc and would make their model alittle less greedy af.
@theblitz9
2 жыл бұрын
In the novels, Ro Laren becomes DS9's commander. So, still have a Bajoran in charge
@ObsidianBlk
2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually just finishing up the Star Trek: Coda trilogy which, as I understand it, is the official end of the book (Destiny) timeline, in order to make way for whatever gets cannonized in the new Trek shows. I've missed a lot of the Books, over the years. It wasn't until recently that I even realized they all share continuity (which is awesome, but daunting too).
@chrissonofpear1384
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they started to share continuity after Insurrection came out, I think, with more and more books being tied together, beginning with a DS9 continuation (the Avatar duology, initially) and then TNG and Voyager getting full relaunches too, @ObsidianBlk . The first 'arc' culminated in the Destiny trilogy, teaming up several characters, and then into the Typhon Pact books, and The Fall series, plus various spinoffs. Cold Equations was another trilogy, plus the Section 31 books, and now it finally (sob) comes to a close.
@honestly_present
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of your hard work on this, I would love to see a part two also thank you for covering the novels and not just the shows, I for one refuse to watch any of the shows, but enjoy the books very much! Also thank you for making it clear that the Destiny series is its own timeline, I fell behind on the novels and it got confusing, but that makes more sense knowing it's two separate time lines in the novels!
@danieltelgarsky4701
2 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to see a series about a starship commanded by captain Worf where we get to see how he has changed as a person and an officer. I think that would be a super interesting area of the Star Trek universe to explore, seeing him aged and evolved.
@DocWolph
2 жыл бұрын
It feels like a "Captain Worf" series would be the "Velvet hammer" approach to Starfleet.
@danieltelgarsky4701
2 жыл бұрын
@@DocWolph agreed and I could completely get on board with that
@rumrunner8019
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Worf as Captain and Nog as Chief Engineer. Have Worf start off still having a deep dislike of Ferengi but he slowly changes after working with Nog. It would also be fun to somehow get him to the Delta Quadrant and have to work with Neelix. It would be the ultimate test of his patience.
@markfergerson2145
2 жыл бұрын
@@rumrunner8019 Remember Nog baking down Klingons when he took a turn at security on DS9? He'd make Worf respect him one way or another.
@spartacus36526
2 жыл бұрын
Are you listening Paramount? We need a series about Captain Worf and the Enterprise-E. Star Trek: Captain Worf.
@danmurgy9125
2 жыл бұрын
I feel you missed a small bit about Miles O'Brian out from STO, we learn that in 2409/10, thanks to Worf asking Captain Shorn to pass on his regards, that O'Brian is chief engineer of the Enterprise - F. Ok, granted there is a small chance that its Molly or Kaiko but Miles seems much more likely On the subject of the USS Nog, I found it very touching that its canon, and that the ship is called the Eisenburg Class in STO and possibly canon. It was also a nice touch that General Martok was recounting a story about Nog when you speak to him at the start of the last mission in the Klingon Civil War storyline. It felt like they had more planned for him in STO, and he felt like a natural choice to captain one of the hybrid ASF starship like the ASF Khitomer
@michaelgreenwood3413
2 жыл бұрын
It's Kirayoshi O'brien, his son Kira carried in the show.
@danmurgy9125
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgreenwood3413 I must confess I had forgotten about him. I'm guessing it's confirmed in a lore file or mission I havent done in a while
@michaelgreenwood3413
2 жыл бұрын
@@danmurgy9125 Any time you see Shon and his crew. The end mission of the Solanae Arc has 'em
@danmurgy9125
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgreenwood3413 ah yes, been a while since I did that mission, I'll keep an eye out next time I do
@RainArchiver
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Ben Sisko return for the fifth season of Discovery in some way. I'd also like to see Worf return for the ending of season two or in season three of Picard.
@AGoat1971
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah may as well ruin all of the good characters by having them appear in those two abominations.
@RainArchiver
2 жыл бұрын
@@AGoat1971 I think any true Trekkie would be open-minded enough to enjoy a story in the union of the unlikely. So, if you disagree with the Volcan philosophy of "Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combination.", I would say that you are not a true Trekkie. But to each their own! Oh yeah, the full Next Generation cast is to appear in season 3 of Picard. Also, the season has been filmed and is now in post-production.
@kassar7146
2 жыл бұрын
@@AGoat1971 Aww poor baby got hurt by Discovery.
@gavinkelman5468
2 жыл бұрын
So many different versions of every character, I was reading about Dax on Wiki and they have the version of events in which Dax and Bashir break up, or that's the one I read anyway, very hard to keep track of all these different timelines/stories, good video for sure.
@avengingangel
2 жыл бұрын
Really sad about how they end up in the Coda trilogy. Will there be a video done about it?
@ChairmanMo
2 жыл бұрын
It was a glorious end in the eyes of any Klingon!
@liljenborg2517
2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was supposed to be an eighty minute video with all the stuff about Morn you had. Did you know the video cut you off just as you mentioned him?
@Timberjac
2 жыл бұрын
On the one hand I still do not see Kira as Kai, but on the other, it must be recognized that in the series, she is more favored with the contact of the prophets (coming to be used by one of them, in the episode in which they face the Pagh wraith), as well as going to the past with one of the orbs. No doubt Kay Winn would have killed just a little bit of that divine experience.
@JoseMoreira-vo8cu
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, being that this is my FAVORITE of all the shows!
@1COMIXMAN
2 жыл бұрын
If we're talking books well Ezra becomes the captain of a star shop of her own for many years, sicko also gets his own ship as capt. Ds9 is blowed up but a new space station is built totally designed by miles obrien, quark is still run ing a new bar on the space station, word went back to the enterprise and eventually got his own ship. The enterprise lol. Rom was still grand nagus, Jake became the writer he always dreamed of being, nog ended up being an admiral and one of the leaders of star fleet, garak becomes the leader of cardassia, doo came back and is once again constable after leaving the great link, there's alot of stories non Canon that are better than most series episodes.
@shauntempley9757
Жыл бұрын
STO also says the Enterprise J is captained by a Dax as well. So, she is a big piece in the future.
@eschnabel.4665
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Here's hoping Vic Fontaine has a post series story.
@Zambazos
2 жыл бұрын
I hope we see sisko and some other TNG characters in Picard
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