I hope you guys like and enjoy the video! I remastered the original as it was not up to the standard of my channel. Warhammer 40k Dawn of War is very close to my heart and childhood, and I hope this video inspires you to give it a deeper look perhaps!
@momqabt
Жыл бұрын
"They have successfully captured the market and made them their bitch" *shows Sidious* Very nicely done
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@momqabt LMAO Im glad you enjoyed it :D
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@jamespaguip5913 Its just that starcraft and warcraft both stole from Warhammer as a setting, which makes it feel less superior in a lot of ways gamesworkshop produced Warhammer lore and styles 20 years before starcraft was even an idea
@lordnovas
Жыл бұрын
This series got me into painting overpriced minis.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@lordnovas HA! Same for me!
@purrpurr2604
Жыл бұрын
The first game and the expansions are still what got me into W40K. .
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Same for me!!
@benjaminheginbotham7927
Жыл бұрын
I still play DoW soulstorm regularly
@Sammo212
Жыл бұрын
Yup! The first Dawn of War is what ultimately made me jump getting into the game. My first army was Blood Ravens.
@superdupertyson
Жыл бұрын
it was an amazing time. we used to play it heaps at the net cafe heaps back in the day. my friend had beef with another guy and they settled it out in a game of dow lol. my friend infiltrated scouts into his base kept them there all game and teched up and deep strike terminators in the back. it was hilarious
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@superdupertyson HA!!! That is amazing
@Neoyugi
Жыл бұрын
PLaying DoW 1 as a kid, building up a big army and having them rush into melee, watching the fighting animations...was like peak Dawn of War. Ultimately got me into the table top game that I still play 18 years later.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah!
@hensanglama9347
Жыл бұрын
Playing on lan with friends was the best thing
@michaell8000
3 ай бұрын
God remember those sync kill gmvs? Just pure fun.
@Vyolette13
Жыл бұрын
I really think a proper remaster collection of Dawn of War 1, (re-releasing each expansion over a couple years) with improved authentic models/textures, higher resolution support, optimizations, bugfixes and engine improvements would be really well received. As long as they released updated modding tools alongside it, then it would keep the community thriving forever.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yessir!
@DarkDragonRus
Жыл бұрын
Retribution doesn't have campaign for every race, it's have one campaign that have slight variations during the mission depending on faction you play. And trying to make every faction doing the same set of mission made some dialogues very stupid, like when making Inquisition fighting Imperial Guards.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Oops! I forgot about that, hope you enjoyed tho!
@EinheriV
Жыл бұрын
Good point, but Inquisition fighting Imperial Guard is very much on point for 40k
@manolgeorgiev9664
Жыл бұрын
I see no problem in Inquisition fighting Imperial Guard. Just a standart tuesday in Warhammer 40k. The Eldar fighting Eldar was more confusing for me at least.
@DarkDragonRus
Жыл бұрын
@@manolgeorgiev9664 the dialogue that leads to the fighting is most innate among all that I seen. Don't know about Eldars, I only finished it as Imperial Guards (which really isn't good at boss fighting)/Inquisition, Orks and Tyranids (which have different mechanics from other ones that make campaign harder if you don't save scum).
@originalusernameoftheyear6500
Жыл бұрын
@@manolgeorgiev9664I played the eldar campaign and I don't ever remember that happening
@charlesdaugherty321
Жыл бұрын
1 is the best RPG ever. 2 is a great game too. {REDACTED}
@Nonehasthisnamekek1
Жыл бұрын
I really hope we will get a DOW4 that takes the good from the 1st game and the good from the 2nd.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
That'd be so nice
@hordynighthawk325
Жыл бұрын
I remember playing with friend our version of the last stand. 2 v 6 defense :-D Barely holding the line for 8 hours and then we decided to at least die in the combat, so we charged out and somehow won 😀 we were like 15 at the time 😀
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
God that sounds awesome!
@zsafol402
Жыл бұрын
DoW I was my favorite. 2 was alright, but disappointing because of no base building. Still very enjoyable if you weren't looking for the expansion of the 1st experience like everyone else. However 3 was a letdown starcraft copy with moba stuff that made me feel the graphics were somehow worse than the prev 2 despite being better. Make IV liek 1 and maybe keep the heroes and I'll love it. Completely personal stuff: DoW I was my introduction to my 10yo non-english speaking self to Warhammer, and now I have started building an army a few months ago 21 years later in the theme of Blood Ravens just because of it. Oh btw.. Am I witnessing the birt of a new channel? Well have my like, comment and subscription.. FOR THE EMPEROR of course. Your fate is in your hands now.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Very much appreciate it!!! I am very new here yes haha! Only been at it for a month or so!
@Ansatsu209
Жыл бұрын
If Dawn of War went back to its roots, or even remastered Dark Crusade and such, I feel like it would make a major come back. If they make the dumpster fire that is Dawn of War 3, then yeah, the series ended.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yup, agreed!
@whiteassassin13
Жыл бұрын
dawn of war 1 was my first pc game i bought and couldn't play for the first year, but then 2005 i feel in love with warhammer 40k
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of War is the reason so many of us are now huge warhammer fans, it's amazing!
@Borthax
Жыл бұрын
It's sad that dow2 was my first and I had throw fights because of the infamous sound bug
@nunuonroad9969
Жыл бұрын
I still play Dark Crusade every now and then, it’s still fun and I’d wished they’d remake it
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Same!
@Sherudons
Жыл бұрын
When I saw a space marine do a flip in the air like a league of legends character I knew it was going to be a dumpster full of dogshit and set on fire. Way to go from gritty realism to happy adventure times, totally didn't kill the whole series.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
YUP!
@K.Marx48
2 ай бұрын
Probably the team that worked and the game was full of women, I can visualize them right now thinking that it would be a good idea changing from grim dark to flashy moba game.
@balazsvarga1823
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of War 1 has Unification, and Dawn of War 2 has Elite and Vengeance of the Blood Ravens (Astartes) mods to add still new content to them. These are the old rts games, legends of the past. Dawn of War 3 felt like it took all the wrong cues from 1 and 2.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
yup!
@aninternetuser4306
Жыл бұрын
I'm playing unification right now
@gc1087
5 ай бұрын
Facts dude, dow3 was so bad I couldn't believe it. It played so wacky and idk how dow2 looks better and is much older. They messed up big time
@sirgideonofnir6840
Жыл бұрын
The first game is what got me into the universe, still a amazing game.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Very much so!!
@igorthelight
3 ай бұрын
Yep! Especially with Unification mod (36 playable races!) or Ultimate Apocalypse (Tier 4 and 5 technology!) ;-)
@ieajackson5518
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, your editing gets better every time!
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for stopping by!
@o.w.n.1327
Жыл бұрын
dawn of war 3 happened. But first let me watch the video
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
LMAO, TRUE! hope you enjoy it!!
@o.w.n.1327
Жыл бұрын
@@Dutch40KGuy Hey took me 2 days to watch it all my bad: I feel like you really didn't went into too much detail on why players enjoyed and disliked a specific game but I really did enjoy the video for me as someone who first played dawn of war in 2020 I think the reason I liked the series was how simple and easy it was to play it all. Strategy games were never really my thing but everyday I open dark crusade and do a skirmish battle its just too fun its all too easy to understand and characters, voice acting, music and the visual all makes this game the best I love Chaos Rising with all its posibilities the choices the dialogue yet I HATE THE FUCKING GAMEPLAY. Edit: I got into 40k just like most in recent years with Astarteas but Dawn of War really sold me the entire universe. (now I spend copius ammounts of cash on plastic crack)
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@o.w.n.1327 thank you for the insights!!
@schmittywhamjenson
Жыл бұрын
As a kid I couldn't get into DOW II because I just wanted to play an rts like the first one... recently tried it over the past few months and absolutely loved it.
@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
Жыл бұрын
Love the first seven games across Dawn of War 1 and 2. The awesome storyline and fantastic voice work is what got me into 40k, with every race playing different from another and the music was amazing too and then Dawn of War 3 came... different art style, different voice cast, different team... it looking like a mobile game... Just why...
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
I knowww!
@wiseguy3696
19 сағат бұрын
Seeing this a year later. The mods for DoW1 are great and increase playability greatly. Space Marine 2 has caused a surge in old Warhammer games, and the DoW playbase has grown once more.
@Eehonda_again
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of War never had any sequels, only expansions. Dawn of War 2 and the shite that came after it don’t deserve to have the same name
@kesgamingbot1249
Жыл бұрын
I still play DOW 1 and 2 to this Day. Both fun in their own way. I never touched DOW 3 and I don't regret it.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Understandable
@TedTheHobbyist
Жыл бұрын
DoW 2's Eldar didn't want to bring the Tyranids to the planets considering Tyhpon is considered a craftworld. And it makes no sense for them to bring Tyranids to Aurelia considering Tyranids doesn't give a shit who you are, you're biomass.
@Isaias_Primus
Жыл бұрын
i feel that the guys of relic wanted to emulate the actual wargame in DoW 2, cuz it's feels like the wargame, having squads, using covers, capturing strategic points, and deploy units in the map
@nekomancer4641
Жыл бұрын
It has a lot of elements more closer to Company of Heroes games.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Genuinely!
@Isaias_Primus
Жыл бұрын
@@nekomancer4641 i know that, but since i'm a tabletop player it's feels like killteam or vanilla 2.000 pts game
@paulbestwick2426
Жыл бұрын
To me it feels like they took inspiration from Squad Leader the old Avalon Hill board wargame
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@paulbestwick2426 thats a good description!
@tybaltmarr2158
Жыл бұрын
Its set 40k years after humanity starts to colonise the Sol system. Not 40k years after Christ's birth like our calendar. Just a smol detail :)
@dryzd
Жыл бұрын
I am playing DAW1 and 2 once every year with Tiberian Sun. I love those games
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
They're incredible
@TemperingFaber3
Жыл бұрын
Sororitas are in the first game, and the game is loved, the Sororitas aren't in the second or third, the games are hated...Coincidences?
@gabrielalexanderkemp
Жыл бұрын
DOW 1 Is a game I still actively play constantly, the modding has made the game truly feel like one of the best games ever. DOW2 is a fucking fantastic experience and truly fun af even though it's almost entirely different truly a masterpiece in a different way. DOW 3 is one of the saddest excuses for a RTS, Moba, or whatever the fuck it's supposed to be that I have ever sadly had to see with potential that cannot be believed ruined by a strange af art style, a HORRID gameplay loop for multiplayer, a piss poor story, mediocre voice acting, OP af heros, and a lack of physics even by 40k standards. Truly sad considering the hype and expectations but they tried to please both fans of DOW 1 and DOW 2 and instead ended up pleasing literally no one.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
I KNOW RIGHT! they could've at least tried satisfying at least a part of the community
@adrianoss.bougas3720
Жыл бұрын
By the time of DOW3, Relic had been hit by layoffs, it was no longer Relic at that point sadly.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
That is super sad to hear :(
@adrianoss.bougas3720
Жыл бұрын
@@Dutch40KGuy very ;/
@zbigniew2628
Жыл бұрын
Do you know where this people work now?
@fachagarmin
Жыл бұрын
Do the deaths of your games means so much to you Relic? Are you that weak?
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@FRAAANKYSUUUPER
Жыл бұрын
I just wanted a stand alone Last Stand game from DoWII. I sunk so many hours into that game mode and never really touched PvP... If they made it stand alone and better with more characters I would be so happy, I've even thought about how to make it better as well... But no one cares.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, sadly it is too late by now :(
@SethTheFall
Жыл бұрын
Old Dow is still well alive with the apocalypse mod
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Like mentioned in the video! 🤭
@SubutaiTuul
Жыл бұрын
im pretty positive about dow4 becoming a thing honestly. and if they do i hope they take the best from 1 and 2, beucase i personally loved both, and sure dow2 didn have base building but it still was an RTS and you still had to be very active on the map to fight for important resources and be tactical about how you used your shit. regardless of no base building, it was an RTS.
@gerardotejada2531
Жыл бұрын
Company of Heroes is the best RTS ever made, and I only want a Warhamer 40k reskin of that game ¿Why is that so hard?
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Itd be so easy
@randomtrigger1378
Жыл бұрын
DW1 gameplay with DW2 graphic =DW3 , it is not that hard for the dev to ruins one of the best RTS franchise ?
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@perizzasalem4994
Жыл бұрын
First character i know from warhammer is capt Davian Thule. But they kill him and transform him to mech...
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
I mean yes, but thats what happens with most marine heroes!
@MajesticDemonLord
Жыл бұрын
In 2000 they started branching out into games?!? My dear sweet KZitemr, playing Space Crusade and Space Hulk on a 486 in the mid 90s is what got me hooked on 40k
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
I mean true! But seeing as they sadly sold less units of those than they did boxes of 5th edition starter sets, I just cant count them as a genuine try Havent played space hulk in over a decade though, that stuff was so freakin cool
@Dokdiamant
Жыл бұрын
Also, I played all Parts of DoW including the Addons, and I still have all except III and loved them... even if I also had this DoW II Trauma Feeling of: that is not DoW! I played DoW III on a free to play Weekend... but uninstalled it again after only a few Hours of playing. Before I could uninstall it, I got a message from a Community Manager or Dev or so, don't know, why I uninstall the game after only playing it for such a short Time. And sadly my answer was: Because it is boring. For me at that Time, it was like I said. I couldn't find my way into the Game, couldn't feel me in, became a Part of that Story, got thrilled by it... it was bland, many effects yes, but... still boring. But same I have with some other Wh40k games, like for example Space Marines (Played it through three Times and than lost interest, because am not an MP Player) or Spave Hulk, the newer Version. In the later, it was a cool game... the first two Times I played it, but than I seen the "Limitations" of that Game, Story and Enemys. I mean, Okay it was as close to the Original as it could get. It was even better with new Creatures and the cultists, insted of ONLY Genstealers as Enemys. But there are so many other Races you could meet on a Space Hulk, so many other "forces of Evil", and you only get one Campaign against Space Bugs and their Cultists? That game could have used a Addon with an own Story Campaign with for example, a mixed races Spacehulk or one with Orks, Eldari and deep inside... maybe a Necron Portal Pyramide or a old Chaos Artefakt or even simple Space Pirates that gone Mad in the Warp? Even the MP was always the Same, only with other Players instead of AI Companions. I think there was allot of Potential missed there. And the same feeling I had with DoW III. To that Time, some of the first and Second Generation Apocalypse Mods for DoW I came out and damn, that was fun! Even brought my Hardware and the Game Engine to it's limits with how many Troops you could get on the Battlefield, and the Titans and super heavy Tanks too! It even had some Graphic Upgrades for the base game I think. III never had a Chance against it. I think it came out way to early, with not enough Content and way too many promisses that they couldn't hold. It should have the best of One and Two in it... I couldn't feel it and the Mechanics were clunky. Rest in Peace DoW or come back like a blazing Phoenix!
@terranaxiomuk
Жыл бұрын
They got rid of base building and made it more of an MOBA. I played the originals as IG or Eldar in multiplayer. Eldar was top tier play with web ways.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
correct!
@marcojustiniano7498
Жыл бұрын
Dawn 1 with the unification mod bloody perfection primarchs and everything
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it slaps!
@satzbau9185
Жыл бұрын
Like how DoW really made the Space Marine/Ork/Eldar dynamic their thing. Really a cornerstone of the the DoW trilogy. I like that. Whoever came up with that, good job. Travesty there being no Dark Eldar or Sisters of Battle in any of them except the worst DoW 1 expansion tho
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@Theobserver6897
Жыл бұрын
Worst Dow expansion? It’s the best one
@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
Жыл бұрын
@@Theobserver6897 If you don't count the terrible written characters and the terrible voice acting for the races without the mods then it's the 2nd worst just after Dawn Of War 3.
@Crom_smite_you
Жыл бұрын
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 don't forget all the weird unit caps they added in soulstorm. For example you could only have one of each terminator squad, one land raider, two predators. Or the imperial guard could only have two leman russ tanks, and only three basilisks. I dunno who thought that was a great idea, but it ruined the multiplayer for soulstorm for alot of people. Before hand, the better the unit, the more slots it took up, so you could have only terminator squads, but you'd only get about 4-5 squads, whereas u could have 10 tactical marine squads instead. It added longevity to the game and meant people could play in there own style, but the unit caps they added in soulstorm basically meant every one played the same.
@disasterdisaster581
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of war 2 is probably the best Dawn of War game. It's the only one that actually reflects the lore power levels. It's the only one that actually involves tactics. And it isn't tedious as you don't have to deal with boring crap (like base building), you just get straight into the action.
@LKLM138
Жыл бұрын
base building isn't tactics? Thats pretty contradictory statement right there. Ofc I understand that you want action immediatly the game starts. Nothing wrong in that. Nothing beats the adrenaline when you build your base and scout ahead with some units and encounter a player with stronger units, advancing your base. But you still have just barely enought time to make matching units by thr time they reach you. And because ypu didn't waste recources on better units at start, you have another scout units reclaming resources around the map... Thats strategy baby!
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Hope you guys enjoyed the video though 🤭
@LKLM138
Жыл бұрын
@@Dutch40KGuy Yes. It was really informative and reasonable.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!
@JayFFAFAlesanaES
Жыл бұрын
Base building is decorating and making your mark. It's one of the best bits. Using Chaos Daemons via Unification mod in Soulstorm is even cooler, with custom maps, too 😎
@BLOODKINGbro
Жыл бұрын
Never got to get the glory of the Tau empire ever again
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
My greater good boyz :(
@MrFiremagnet
Жыл бұрын
I actually paint my army as Blood Ravens, because I loved them even after finding out about all the other chapters, primarchs and reading lexicanum "from cover to cover". There's just something about their mystery and hinted connections to some *cough* thousand sons *cough* traitor legion. Also, the memes
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Blood Raven memes are so good :P
@starboykb
Жыл бұрын
Warhammer 40k Dawn of War was the best RTS I ever play and collect them physically (with t-shirt!). DOW2 is more focused on the standalone campaign. I still enjoy and reply from time to time because of the great story and music. It's a shame DOW3 didn't do well but i going to get it once i upgrade my graphic card. i am sad to miss out the collector edition box set.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
that is sick though!!
@CompeadorGaming
Жыл бұрын
I was top Eldar in DoW1 for a while, along with a couple of other dudes who must have had bionicly enhanced fingers for giga-APM. Stuck around through DoW2, lost a bunch of tournaments to Ravener nids vs my Farseer bc fuck nids so much omfg. Tried DoW3 for all of 5 hours before giving up on the franchise. Loved it, love the universe, but trying to make Dawn of Company of WarHeroes was Relic's worst mistake, then trying to make Dawn of DotaWar was the final nail.
@ltp7641
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of War 3 happened... Man Fck that game. The first trailer got me so hyped and what do we get... A Pile of shit that would make Nurgle blush.
@JusticeJudge
Жыл бұрын
DoW 1 boomer here I spent a lot of my teenage years playing DoW 1 it's the best RTS ever created as long as you have camera mod, it was poorly balanced with Eldar being stupidly overpowered but extremely fun to play and I still regular play it online in my early 30's. It's a shame Dawn of War 2+3 sucked and was only worth it for the campaign.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah camera mod was very important. made it a lot more fun
@markkeys1142
Жыл бұрын
Its mind boggling that 2 and 3 werent just 1 with newer graphics a bigger campaign map more factions etc. I genuinely do not know how a company could miss the mark so fuckin hard. Twice.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Ha! I know right
@Definitly-not-Omegon
Жыл бұрын
I did enjoy the character customization of 2 though
@piotrdy9615
Жыл бұрын
Ive played both games competitively (CoH too) and that was the best online rts experience I've had. Sad they butchered DoW 3 and CoH 2
@manubaumann7825
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awsome Video. I still hapo there will be an dow 4 some day. Maybe If space Marine 2 is successfull, there is a Chance that It will Happen. I still Love Dow 2 and Play the Elite Mod frequently
@ZeusTheMatti
Жыл бұрын
I loved the first game. But something that is little stupid is when you stand right in the open in a firefight and spam bullets.. Thats why DoW 2 is far far better! Love the more control your soldiers and taking cover when in a firefight.. Sure hope for a DoW 4 that goes back to how DoW 2 was.
@Heretus
Жыл бұрын
Warhammer 2 was a parody , I could not believe my eyes when I first played that game , I was stunned , what the actual F was that ? kill things, go a bit back to reinforce, go to the boss of the stage ? ? ? what the actual F ? this was not warhammer , it was a mockery of warhammer , small team squad game like X com with a boss at the end like those arcade games where you flew a plain and had to destroy the big bad enemy fortress/plane at the end .... What a absolute joke. Wh 3 was a complete mess, pick a lane and stick with it , they should have just gone the starcraft way , polish graphics , modernize the game in every way .... aaaand done , that was all they had to do.
@lolaroflmao
Жыл бұрын
I still play DOW1 now and then, love the campaigns of the original (SINDRI!!) and of Dark Crusade (Eliphas voice was HOT)
@JerryH171
Жыл бұрын
Isn't relic and sega the main decision maker if they want to do another DOW? GW just sells their license and it also seems that anyone can make a Warhammer game, since there are so many different games from all kinds of devs and also a lot of trash ones. I really would like a new 40k rts, it doesn't have to be from the relic, maybe we will get a new 40k rts from a different studio one day.
@aninternetuser4306
Жыл бұрын
Im still playing DoW soulstorm unification mod, this game still slaps. 💪
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yessir!!
@gerardotejada2531
Жыл бұрын
The problem of DoW3 is that It tried to mix DoW1 and DoW2 and, on top of that, create an esport game in the likeness of Starcraft.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Truth
@Sappermentti
Жыл бұрын
I don't necessarily need or want a DoW4, but i could easily shell out money for a remaster of DoW1 and its expansions.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Same for me!
@xxxphilippxxx
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of War 2 was an amazing game. I love Dawn of War and its expansions. But Space Marines with bases felt weird. In DOW2 it really felt more like you had an elite force (aka Speesh Mareens). Graphics were amazing, sinc kills awesome.
@MrDekasOne
Жыл бұрын
I personally always thought dow2 did a better job of representing how warhammer 40k armies actually operate, no 40k army builds a base and starts making troops and vehicles in the middle of war they bring them with them fight the war then leave and resupply
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
I mean true, yet then, dont market it as an RTS, as it simply wasnt an RTS
@averylewis1753
Жыл бұрын
i still love the Dawn of war games i wish 3 did get some more support it had good potential but i think the focus was to hard on the moba heroes and lack of maps/races in the base game really killed it the modding community has kept Dawn of war 1 and 2 alive hard though
@airsoftkingman
Жыл бұрын
I really like DoW 3, Yeah the heroes are a little over the top but the maps and play style reminded me of the first one a lot. I wish they would have started out with more races like chaos, imperial guard or the nids, then I think it would have been better received
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Definetely!
@rock2k14
Жыл бұрын
I still completely expect a 40k game from Creative Assembly, whether it's a Total War Warhammer 40k, or whether they make Dawn of War 4 (I mean Sega owns the IP and CA) as they have basically been printing money with Total War Warhammer, and CA definitely have the experience with everything from the Total War series, to Halo Wars 2 and Alien Isolation
@manu_spawn
Жыл бұрын
I play SS for Ultimate Apocalypse And btw, i discovered 40K thanks to Dawn of War
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
By far the best way to find this amazing universe!
@manu_spawn
Жыл бұрын
@@Dutch40KGuy yeah! I remember i was looking for low end PC games when i had a bad PC, and I'd never tend to play campaigns in RTS games, but as played my first Skirmish, the scale was huge, i was too impressed, so i got into the Campaign and to me it was simply unbelievable. As soon as i finished the Game, i literally run into the internet to look for the next Game, and i discovered... It was not just a PC Game, it was massive universe. It's been 10 years now, and little by little people in Latin America are now discovering it. I al quite happy. Dawn of War, Space Marine were the best, and now Darktide it's making 40K more popular so i am really happy about that!
@vendeux
Жыл бұрын
They should go back to the first DOW formula with fresh graphics and updated UI. They should call it DAWN OF WAR: HORUS HERESY and take us through key moments of the heresy, like game one can be up to Istvaan V as the traitor legions with a spinoff expansion covering the fall of Lorgar and burning of Prospero. Game two should focus on Signus Cluster, Calth and Imperial Secundus then the third can be Seige of Terra. GW's bank account would go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Edit: Also get rid of the gimmicky cartoony look of the third game. Get a truly grimdark aesthetic showing the blood, sweat and gore of Warhammer 30k.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
God that sounds awesome!
@zbigniew2628
Жыл бұрын
They should name DOW 3 - Danw of War MOBA, but they choose to use fake marketing and pretend thas it is a return of the first one.
@DSFARGEG00
Жыл бұрын
TWW3 went down its own dark path, hitting us up with End Times tier chaoswank, WoW-ified Kislev, and a lame China faction no one asked for or wanted when Chorfs actually had a tabletop army and have pushed off at least half a year.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
TRUE!
@Falcon0BR
Жыл бұрын
No one asked for a China faction? Three Kingdoms sold more them warhammer 1 and 2 combined!
@DSFARGEG00
Жыл бұрын
@@Falcon0BR Total War: Warhammer - 2.08 million+ Total War: Warhammer II - 955,000+ Total War: Three Kingdoms - 1 million+
@Falcon0BR
Жыл бұрын
@@DSFARGEG00 2019 In their list of "2019 Steam Titles Not on EGS" it is noted that in 2019 Three Kingdoms sold 2 200 000 of copies on Steam. Revenues from the these copies were $87 098 000 and additional $10 000 000 from DLCs (in 2019 we had Yellow Turbans, Blood DLC and Eight Princes). On the same list Warhammer 2 has sold 1 300 000 of units. Revenue was $31 200 000 from paid copies and $2 000 000 from DLCs (in 2019 new DLCs were The Prophet and the Warlock, The Hunter and The Beast and The Shadow and the Blade). The first Warhammer has sold in the same year 225 000 of units, which gave $7 525 000 of revenue from paid copies and $ 1 000 000 from DLCs. 2018 In the period of Q4 2017 - all 2018, the revenue from Warhammer 2 was supposedly $18 600 000. SIDE NOTE Based on these numbers it seems that Warhammer 2 has sold more copies in 2019 than in 2018. These numbers also mean that revenue in 2019 from 3K ($97 millions) was nearly twice as big as revenue from WH2 from Q4 of 2017 to the end of 2019 (~$50 millions). What is more, in 2019 the revenue from 3K DLCs was nearly 5 times as big as revenue from WH2 DLCs. To put it into perspective - in just 7 months from release 3K revenue ($97 millions) was twice as big as WH2 revenue in the last 27 months (~50 millions), which was October 2017 - all 2019. Table with 3K and WH2 data for 2019: Check twcenter for the source and stop.
@ChaldeaWarmaster
Жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. I may not have been a Warhammer fan for very long, but I know how people were so interested about Cathay yet they never had an army.
@then00brathalos
Жыл бұрын
DOW 3 happens on a knight world. but barely any knights showup (there is solaria and thats it) which is kinda funny. DOW has been my official first dip into warhammer culture (aside from Freeblade, but we don't talk about that) and damn impressive it was for a game from 2004. Currently going through winter assault which made me view the guardsmen much more heroic than I already did. I played soulstorm with mods on some skirmishes yet still havent got into the campaign
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Definitely try out the campaign! It's worth it, even with all the issues surrounding the game
@frozenwalkway
10 күн бұрын
the last stand was fire tho you cant lie. still works today online
@YoJimBoHugabaJoe
Жыл бұрын
They had video games since amiga64 at least.earliest game I played was space crusader which was from the 80s,when 40k was rogue trader.still one of the best 40k games as well
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
I mean true, but seeing as these didn't sell more COMBINED than the 5th edition starter set, and were not even from GW directly, I can't count them as a true try
@magiadegetelor2784
Жыл бұрын
Warhammer 40k 1 it will always be in my heart because I discovered for the first time the warhammer universe 40k.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Its amazing!
@sluggy6074
Жыл бұрын
I don't know what you're talking about with dawn of war 2. All the friends I used to stay up all night playing dawn of war 1 with really enjoyed dawn of war 2 when it came out. There was only a brief conversation when we all came to the realization it was completely different but I'd say half my friends made dow2 their main game and the other half stuck with the original, but of those people who liked the original better they all still played dow2 and never said anything bad about it. Relic decided they didn't want to travel the beaten path where the 2nd game is just the first with better graphics and less armies. They took a gamble and it paid off that time as the absence of base building allowed for a lot more fast paced action. Edit: wrote that before I heard you talk about the things dow 2 did well. Don't think the game was that polarizing though. I was personally really surprised to see a lot of the RTS diehards didn't hate dow2. That just makes their criticism of dow3 that much more damning...
@constantinvalor5261
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of War 2 was a masterpiece. Much better than DoW1, which was good. DoW3 was crap.
@fazzolarijames
Жыл бұрын
DOW1 was not bigger than Warcraft 3 but otherwise agree pretty much everything.
@thepiratepenguin4465
Жыл бұрын
I would love to play a game set during the Horus Heresy.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
thatd be awesome!!!
@porcu12345
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of War 4? I would rather have a remaster of the first game with updated graphics and all expansions included in the base game.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Thatd be the best!
@Daralyndk
Жыл бұрын
Original Dawn of War was what introdiced me to 40K universe in the first place and for that, I will be always grateful CUZ ORKZ ARE DA BIGEEST, BADDEST, MEANEST AND GREENEST DERE IZ! WAAAAAGGHHHH! Ehmmm. Now seriously, I loved the first game and it's expansions, Gorgutz is still my favorite baddie. Second game was not what was I expected but as you said as standalone game I had ton of fun with it and it's expansions and as mostly singleplayer guy I did not really missed the map domination aspect. I have third part in library...and...I never played it, or even installed it for that matter as I heard so much shit about it that I was disheartened. I guess I could give it a try because your opinion seems to fit with mine. I was never fan of Total War games, but I would be willing to give it a shot if it was 40K
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Definitely give it a try, just try to approach it as a moba, not an rts, it clears up the confusion a ton! Hope you enjoyed the video, and thank you for sharing!
@jacopo3967
Жыл бұрын
Down of War 1 has never been a really good game, it was a super unbalanced mess, an ok game for 2004 that shined a lot because of the campaigns, the add of a LOT of races and modding support. (loved it still, have the boxed game and every expansion since like 2006) DOW2 was way more balanced and competitive but lacked base building, big armies and races DOW3 was good imo, many interesting mechanics, but they shut it down too quickly and first of all ONLY FUCKING 3 PLAYABLE RACES
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, by far bot enough options in dow3
@bengraham5699
Жыл бұрын
DOW 1 was already perfect. It was obvious that DOW2 and DOW3 can't surpass this. So they just made totally different games
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
I guess, but as it didnt actually fit as a series, that was their main mistake
@GenJuhru
Жыл бұрын
I loved warcraft 3, and as I was looking for cool orc pics, I saw orcs with guns and that was the time DoW 1 (the unbalanced version, coz there are exploits) came out and it's like StarCraft & Battle Realms both top-tier games... I enjoyed 1 & 2, I like how 2 is a different genre coz for me 1 has achieved critical mass(until mods came ofc and yeh) and 2's rpg-esque aspect adds replayability. Then 3...haist, aeon of strife was fun in SC but it's a very limited/limiting game mode so I understand the disappointment of fans. But I think it's about ti-- _Hell, it's about time_ a shiny Wh40k rts if not a remaster of DoW 1--a new one would prolly "easier" to churn out.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
As long as its good!!
@Helldober
Жыл бұрын
They should do W40K Total War game!!
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
That'd be amazing!
@aliski768
Жыл бұрын
one day your channel will explode, please, remember me when this happens, because when this happens i will be one amongst untold billions
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that so much!!!
@FatBunny168
Жыл бұрын
IN DOW 1, bodies stay permanently. It look grims and awesome as IT SHOULD BE! DOW2 feel like dawn of skirmish instead of Dawn of war and dead bodies disappear like it never exist....lame af DOW 3....feel like MOBA
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yup!
@TheSunMoon
Жыл бұрын
DoW 1 is amazing. DoW 2 is a big change, but somewhat still enjoyable. DoW 3 is.. I haven't played it yet, nor buy it, even when it went on sale many times 😂.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Ha! i can still recommend it in a way, if you look at it from the perspective of a sort of moba, its kinda fun!
@Commandramon74
Жыл бұрын
Tiny lore mistake in DoW2 BEWARE SPOILER!!! The Elder didn't summon the Tyranids. they tried to prevend them from getting into the Aurelion sector, but as Intelligent as the Space Marines always are, they dont even care and just slaughter the Eldar(Stuff like that happens quite often in Warhammer Lore)
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
ah! Yeah as a dutch speaking person it can kinda get lost in translation too :D
@smolwavingsnail9028
Жыл бұрын
they ditched the base building. and when they brought it back it was dumbed down and minimalistic. the strategy aspect was all but gone with the closest thing to strategy you had was some cover
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
true!
@smolwavingsnail9028
Жыл бұрын
@@Dutch40KGuy I played them all and even though I wouldn't say dawn of 2 and 3 were bad games I'd certainly say they were forgettable at best and should have been stand alone titles. Instead of tarnishing the legendary legacy of the dawn of war rts franchise.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@smolwavingsnail9028 Yeah, just seperating them wouldve been the better choice for sure
@benfromthesewers1688
Жыл бұрын
Biggest reason why DoW 2 got slack and DoW 3 failed is that they've basiclly made different games. They should have picked different name. I believe dawn of war 2 and dawn of war 3 are not dawn of war games but different games that are good in their own way. And from my expernice I disagree with end statement. RTS is still as popular but because they havent gotten a rts 40k styled game they've pretty much retreated and shattered into multipe big/small modding or gaming communities across different games that are out of public light. Even in places like star wars : empire at war where we could have had amazing 40k mod but due to lack of modder's expernice it died.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it defo feels like that
@JamesCh.
Жыл бұрын
"40k is a sci-fi setting" very true. 40k fan: "ItS NoT ScI-Fi ItS GrImDaRk BrUtAl HorrIFyInG MosT PoWeRFul CrEaTioN eVeR CreAtED AnD I BeLiEvE It ExIsTS CHaoS CoRRupTs MEEEEE BRRRR"!
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
LMAOO
@BestHunterSniper
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of war 1 is the best. Best animations, best musics, best sound effects, best visual, dark, deadly, gore, bloody. Best combat system, best war battles. Best expansions, all species playable.
@sirgideonofnir6840
Жыл бұрын
Dawn if War > Starcraft especially since it's just the remnants of the 40k game Activision and GW were making
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
TRUE!!!
@patrickbateman69420
Жыл бұрын
DoW1 and its expansions are still the best RTS games ever made and by far the best 40k games. DoW2 is....alright. We don't talk about DoW3.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Ha!
@veronho1ness
Жыл бұрын
It must admit, after change of mechanics between DoW and DoW2, I thought I would hate the second iteration but I did like it. It meant a change of tactics and the way i played the game, where it almost became a RPG, I keep playing both. I did try the DoW3 and I wanted to like it, but I cannot.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
understandable!
@brokentool
Жыл бұрын
12:45 minor gripe - wouldn't call Total War an RTS game
@paulmcdade9849
Жыл бұрын
You forgot dawn of war soulstorm… DOW3 is absolute gash.
@dragonknightsofantar1737
Жыл бұрын
So I went back to this game after this video. I'm actually enjoying it. The multiplayer vs ai is kinda fun and the graphics are good as well. Still. DoW 1 and 2 are the best.
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear!!!
@justsomenoob1593
Жыл бұрын
Dawn of war was a master piece with all the expansions. Dawn of war 2 was a rather decent experience one that I would highly recommend (plus last stand gamemode is a beast to play with friends) Dawn of war 3 is a flaming bag of mouldy dog shit, over the top flashy nonsense that has no need to be in any dawn of war game...
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
As MMO it wouldve slapped though :P
@GeorgeMasterclass
7 күн бұрын
DoW3 is a fantastic game. Especially when playing multiplayer.
@TheSegert
Жыл бұрын
Just came upon this video to hear some more dawn of war bashing(they deserve it). And suddenly realizing. The narrator is dutch. Hello fellow dutchie 👋
@Dutch40KGuy
Жыл бұрын
Hoop dat de video voldeed aan je verwachtingen :D
@alexanderwizard8368
5 ай бұрын
I really liked the 3 DoW, it still saddens me that DoW 3 had a very bad reception from the public but nothing was done to get people's attention again, for example the future expansion of the Necrons... .but hey you can always dream
@Rasho6161
Жыл бұрын
So sad that DOW3 Died... the next dlc would unlock a new Race (Necrons)... only need Dawn of War in good Grahpics :(
Пікірлер: 581