They normally send a diesel truck out to rescue you.....
@mfx1
Жыл бұрын
So what one diesel vehicle to recover how many EV's?
@rockradio928
Жыл бұрын
@@mfx1 Which will increase exponentially if every Tom, Dick and Harriet has one. Its bad enough with petrol drivers running on empty, which seems to be a trend nowadays. At least with petrol you can get them off hard shoulder after the breakdown truck arrives with a can of fuel. Electric will have to be towed to services and sit there charging for hours.
@PAC56
Жыл бұрын
Kinda just like when a gas car runs out… they send out more energy (gas or a charger) or tow it off the road.
@johnrea2115
Жыл бұрын
Is this service public funded
@raytycker1656
Жыл бұрын
😂😂👍
@sisyphussapprentice8976
Жыл бұрын
Gone are the days of trudging 5 miles to a garage with an empty jerrycan, only to find it's closed.😁😁. Now we have to carry a five mile extension lead. 😀.The biggest problem, as far as I can see, is finding a working charging point that hasn't got a queue of cars waiting to use it.
@noelleonard2498
Жыл бұрын
And an electrical grid that isn't collapsed.
@johnbirman5840
Жыл бұрын
Very good- 5 mile extension cord Delicious!
@billybrown7953
Жыл бұрын
I carry 5 gallons of gas in my truck. But mostly use it to help others that aren't paying attention to their gas.
@ericsummers6254
Жыл бұрын
So why not re- invent a " Dynamo " like the one on my 1964 Land Rover. This KEEPS the battery charged as I am driving. So much for modern technology, !!
@hankkingsley9300
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah knock on the door excuse me my electric car ran out of charge can I plug in
@daver6555
Жыл бұрын
I have never run out of miles, zero range anxiety or waiting for a free charger anywhere.. but I drive a reliable and eco diesel!
@aeroearth
Жыл бұрын
Doh!
@massatube
Жыл бұрын
6555 ha good one
@auntbarbara5576
Жыл бұрын
@daver6555 AMEN BROTHER!!!! me as well.
@robsengahay5614
Жыл бұрын
Well done you. I have also never run out of petrol in 45 years of driving but nor have I ever run out of charge in my EV.
@Tsamokie
Жыл бұрын
I haven't run out since 1972. Gas was still cheap but I was young and living on the edge. hehehehehehehehehe
@bill.godwin-austen
Жыл бұрын
One thing that might be interesting to know is if taking it down to zero does any damage to the battery itself, or does anything to degrade the maximum charge it can take. Different battery technologies might react differently to being completely drained.
@allenelswick6961
Жыл бұрын
No damage this is a built in safety program that protects the batteries from total failure.
@iangascoigne8231
Жыл бұрын
It shouldn’t do. It may cause problems if the batteries are left in a discharged state.
@andygozzo72
Жыл бұрын
@@allenelswick6961 yep its indicated zero wont be true zero charge , there'll be a safety buffer zone,
@grahamthomas4804
Жыл бұрын
I flatened my E bike battery and basically reduced its capacity I had to buy another battery. I don't know why that is the case, but I have read since flattening batteries wrecks them.
@andygozzo72
Жыл бұрын
@@grahamthomas4804 the device using them 'ought' to have the function to prevent too deep discharging..
@gibfen1235
Жыл бұрын
Excellent tests. No one has ever mentioned what would happen. Thanks or doing this.
@pauls3204
Жыл бұрын
No one needed to mention what would happen! It’s clearly obvious
@johnmarks227
Жыл бұрын
So, they use a GAS-powered generator to recharge your EV. Brilliant!
@gerhardk98
Жыл бұрын
In an emergency, not exactly part of a planned charging regime.
@brushlessmotoring
Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that - using fossil fuels to occasionally fuel an EV just isn't the end of the world - would like to see the rescue van be electric though. Coal power station fuelled EV's still emit less CO2 per 100km than gasoline cars.
@martinwilliams5154
Жыл бұрын
Where do you think that much of your electricity comes from anyway? Probably mostly gas powered generators!
@gerhardk98
Жыл бұрын
@@martinwilliams5154 Where I live mostly hydro and nuclear and only during peak demand times natural gas enters the mix.
@wlonsdale1
Жыл бұрын
@@brushlessmotoring it’s hypocritical
@tfp0052
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, everything I see just makes me want to rush out and buy one of these electric Turkeys!
@memyself1566
Жыл бұрын
I think that you’re talking about Irish turkeys!
@rmason5477
Жыл бұрын
💯💯👍
@iggysfriend4431
Жыл бұрын
I think you meant Turds but I am guessing autocorrect got in on the act. 🙂
@epcode5121
Жыл бұрын
They are a con in cost...
@stratman9449
Жыл бұрын
just watch a few video clips of the car freighter "fremantle" off the duth coast...all you ever need to know about EV's.....
@elizabethwinsor-strumpetqueen
Жыл бұрын
That's why I have a 15kva diesel generator in the back of my EV and 20 gallons of diesel....I also have a gas heater and a small wood burner stove and a nuclear reactor I made myself but it only give out 5kva so not big enough to charge the car ,but it does have a nice blue glow .
@leecromer3289
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Louis-qi1gz
Жыл бұрын
Me too 😜
@topgunsnake720
Жыл бұрын
No one can say you aren't prepared. Lol
@jameshepburn4631
Жыл бұрын
There's a nuclear reactor in San Onofre California, a town along the coast near San Clemente. There's 50,000 people living there. And what a coincidence, they all have curly hair.
@fradaja
Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you learn maths instead ?
@darkherostardustchannel3699
3 ай бұрын
Stumbled on this as I've been re-visiting my childhood. Just saying you and the rest of the cast of Robot Wars made my childhood! Thank you so much. I didn't have the best childhood and thankfully those people who made it rough aren't really part of my life anymore. What got me through was TV and Robot Wars was a big part. Never forget the positive impact you and the cast had with millions of people's childhood!
@jamesmartin7282
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. It's helpful to know what to expect. The reason most EVs go beyond 0 miles is the same as "miles to empty" in a petrol vehicle... some people will keep going to 0 miles rather than being conservative.
@hankkingsley9300
Жыл бұрын
That's why you carry a big old f****** diesel generator in your car to charge the son of a b****
@auntbarbara5576
Жыл бұрын
I love how the rescue vehicle and generator are petrol.
@davidbeppler3032
Жыл бұрын
I love how the gas pumps are electric.
@anthonypaynter828
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting & helpful video. But my biggest fear, if I was ever to get an EV, was how much the government will be charging you when they reintroduce a road fund license & are not getting the revenue from the petrol & diesel vehicles. Far more worrying than what will happen if I ever run out of battery.
@johncahill3644
Жыл бұрын
hi, Anthony, as a Model 3 owner for the last several years let me put your mind to rest. My Model 3 costs me roughly 1/4 of what I was paying before...just for electricity or gas mind you. I’m not counting the savings on oil changes, brakes etc. Now without even looking it up, I am quite confident that the road tax is a much smaller number than 75% of the price of gas. So there is really no way you don’t make out like a bandit buying a Tesla. And btw, that Tesla Model 3 (for example) is lasting more than 500,000 miles in fleet service (including original battery). Not having to buy a new car at 250,000 miles is way, way, way cheaper than any road tax. And if you buy a Tesla with their Supercharger network, it’s virtually impossible to run out juice (to get back to the main point). Don’t you wish you bought one when they were $12,000 cheaper like I did? Maybe 2023 is your year.
@anthonypaynter828
Жыл бұрын
@@johncahill3644 Thanks for that information John. It looks like you have got the figures well worked out. However, in my case as with many others who are retired in the UK, there will never be a time when I can afford an EV, especially one as good as the Tesla. My budget nowadays is £5000 (maybe $6000) & I wouldn’t dare buy a second hand EV for that kind of money. My thoughts are, for those people who can afford one now, they will fall into the trap we were tempted with a few years ago when our government persuaded us to go diesel which was far cheaper than petrol. Then when so many of us had fallen into their trap, diesel became the evil witch & the price went far higher than petrol. I fear the same will happen with the EVs but fortunately I will not be around by that time.
@brasswindpdx6122
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonypaynter828: I have a Tesla and I agree with the facts laid out in John’s post. EVs are super inexpensive to operate, and the maintenance is much less than for conventional cars. But - I don’t think that they are for everyone. For example, we charge our car inside our garage. But, if you don’t have a place to charge, then an EV is significantly less attractive. In your case, with your $6,000 budget, you’re probably better off purchasing a used gasoline powered car. As for the road taxes, our state charges me about $200 extra per year to register our EV (above what they charge conventionally powered cars). It’s still a good deal financially.
@easternwoods4378
Жыл бұрын
I live in a high rise. Will the owner put in 400 charging stations. Not a chance. I would have to go to a charger and pay premium rate. Probably means leaving for work a half hour earlier every morning. The extra charging time per year does have a cost, maybe not in monetary terms, but I do value my time. That also assumes that the charging station is working or someone hasn't plugged in and gone shopping. EV's aren't evil but they aren't the solution for everyone
@memyself1566
Жыл бұрын
The long-term aim is to make driving more expensive! Just like the good old days: the poor will have to walk or use public transport. That keeps them at home and out of the way more often!
@coolvideos8864
Жыл бұрын
What happens? Everyone with a sensible car laughs at you
@cjmillsnun
Жыл бұрын
Like I was laughing at everyone with a "sensible" car when the pumps ran dry a few months ago? People run out of fuel every single day.
@coolvideos8864
Жыл бұрын
@@cjmillsnun but you realise that’s not down to the car only having a 100 mile tank right???
@SLLabsKamilion
Жыл бұрын
@@coolvideos8864 lol, what ev only has a 100 mile range. That's straight up in the hybrid territory. Maybe a teeny tiny Electromecannica Solo for in-city transit...
@coolvideos8864
Жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget the life of the batteries, getting worse storage capacity the more you charge it. EVs are a scam for muppets that think they’re going to change the world. They may want to look into how many miles they have to do before there “helping” the Planet
@dandotvid
Жыл бұрын
What happens when a gas powered car runs out of gas? Same thing that happens when an electric car runs out of electricity.
@vidguy007
Жыл бұрын
I notice the alerts about limiting power usage now includes “don’t charge your electric car”
@shawing
Жыл бұрын
In 20 years of driving I've literally never run out of fuel, I don't see why EV are any different. If you get to about 30 or 40 miles of range left in a car, you need to think about where to fuel up if you're gonna be driving further than that. For long trips you'd plan ahead for normal breaks in the driving being lined up with somewhere to charge, that's it. Basic common sense and a little forward planning you'll never have problems.
@tooflesstesla
Жыл бұрын
This video's mindset takes me back decades to when I was 17 years old when I passed my driving test and bought my first car. At that time the thought about what would happen if I should run out of petrol, or whether the engine would start in the cold mornings, or whether I would have to push-and-jump-start the car loomed heavily. That was REAL anxiety back then! 😂But that's just because it was due to inexperience, innocence and the lack of good quality (affordable) used cars. No one with an ICE car today will run it out of petrol or put themselves in "desperate" situations, so the fact that there are many KZitem videos about running EVs down to 0% SOC just shows how "innocent" we are at this stage of the transition to EVs. Generally, anyone getting an EV today will be fine (there's no anxiety). In a decade (or less), we will look back and consider these "range anxiety" videos to be charmingly innocent.
@brushlessmotoring
Жыл бұрын
Correct - but - you'd be amazed how often this comes up in EV discussions, good to see a demonstration video of the non-issue, you get tons of info and warnings.
@ecok
Жыл бұрын
In my experience the range prediction is far better in an EV. Back when I drove a diesel VW Golf the low-fuel light came on at about 40 miles, and then after 5 miles dropped to 20 miles, and again such that it actually had less than 20 miles when light came on. Whereas in EV I have found the range-to-empty prediction very accurate. Sure, if I drive like a loon then that will fall dramatically ... but the prediction will still be accurate and not suddenly drop like a stone as I approach "empty". Likely if you are running it tight you will slow down ... a lot! ... and that will significantly increase range in an EV. Coupled with SatNav, and many EVs having a 20-ish mile post-0% buffer, its pretty hard to run out ... torrential summer rain, increasing fuel consumption, is the only journey I have had where actual consumption was a problem - would have been same for Petrol. The other risk is arriving at a charger to find them all broken
@philippaforresterEV
Жыл бұрын
It really does doesn't it! I think it's the fear of the unknown!
@drstrangelove4998
Жыл бұрын
Never had range anxiety, really.
@kimblakely4559
Жыл бұрын
Great video on what to do when you accidentally run out of power, they had no agenda, except to show what happens when you do
@rodericde876
Жыл бұрын
As soon as a presenter says something daft I cringe. The car still had systems working when the high voltage battery was flat is because they were running off the 12v battery. Even if she was ignorant of this there is a producer, an editor and an entire crew to correct her. But they don’t know what they are talking about either. Experts are more credible.
@raypitts4880
Жыл бұрын
I CALL IT CHEAP VIDEO NOT A LOT OF RESEARCH COSTS MONEY FOR WHAT
@kingrobert1st
Жыл бұрын
This has to be the best anti EV commercial I ever seen! Shame she didn't drive thru the Scottish Highlands.
@kageyme8109
Жыл бұрын
I think one of the most worrying things is , when you get to a charger on a wet dark night and you find it's not working . Usually when you've searched for a point on your app and now your wondering where to get to !!
@djtaylorutube
Жыл бұрын
When we had a Leaf, exactly that happened in a somewhat comedy way. Back then, charging was free and the car was at home with 20 miles left so I drive to the nearest 50kWh charger on a dual carriageway. It was out of order so I had to continue to the next junction and come back to the services on the other side. That one was "working" but the unit has no data connection so wouldn't validate the NFC card. So I had to go back home and a couple of miles from home was left with "- - -". At that point we decided to give up on public charging and continue to use the vehicle for our known journeys and around town.
@fredscratchet1355
Жыл бұрын
@@djtaylorutube This is what I don't understand about the ev infrastructure. Can't you just pay with a credit/debit card? Imagine only being able to use Shell petrol because BP and the others use a different system. It doesn't make sense to me. I do actually like the old Nissan Leaf, I first saw them in Norway many years ago.
@djtaylorutube
Жыл бұрын
@@fredscratchet1355 Some you can pay with bank card, others need an app. I guess it's slowly getting better but this is one of the main reasons we chose Tesla this time round. The simplicity of the Supercharger network. As a single ecosystem it's in their interest to make sure it works and using it is just a case of plug in. Payment is already registered for the car, nothing else to do as it communicates automatically. As to only being able to just one type of fuel company, I've kind of had that before with one vehicle that uses LPG which isn't widespread, so you need to know where it is. Previously I've had a card issued by an employer which was only accepted at certain places. Without a doubt though, the public networks remain fragmented, nobody wants to manage 20+ payment mechanisms or the overlap of methods.
@tonys1636
Жыл бұрын
@@djtaylorutube It would always have to be a card payment for myself an app is useless without a smartphone and laptop generally stays at home unless going away for a few days. One way around it would be to enter one's electricity account number and name of account holder or similar and Reg No. so it is charged to one's bill, the account holder would then know who's vehicle it was, if more than one. Chargepoint owners/suppliers take note.
@markfox1545
Жыл бұрын
Or YOU'RE wondering how to contract YOU ARE.
@andyroid7339
Жыл бұрын
Lovely video Philippa! I won't lie - when I saw the name PF something stirred in me! Memories of an intelligent, bubbly, woman journalist came flooding back. Was not disappointed! One question though - were any of the batteries damaged by this degree of discharge? Did they all recharge easily? E.G I thought Tesla batteries and BMS had big problems if they are run flat.
@brushlessmotoring
Жыл бұрын
You definitely want to charge it as soon as possible, and not leave it flat for days and weeks, but, as long as you get some juice back in within half a day or so, it's fine. The systems keep drawing power otherwise.
@dennisharvey4499
Жыл бұрын
Really useful to see what actually happens, and the recovery situation. It would be useful to say if this is included in RAC membership for an EV or how much RR "charge" for it.
@philippaforresterEV
Жыл бұрын
I do believe it is included in a RAC membership, but worth checking. We didn't include the costs, as they can change, but check out their website if you're interested. recharge-me.co.uk I'll also add their website link in the description to make it easy for anyone to find them. Thanks for watching.
@stevenmoran4060
Жыл бұрын
RAC will come and put a charge into your battery.
@dallasarnold8615
Жыл бұрын
RAC must be a UK thing. So, what do you do if you are in a spot that has no cell phone reception ? Likely means a long walk as well as a long wait for either a tow or a recharge service.
@davidbeppler3032
Жыл бұрын
You can do this.... or just tow it for a mile at 35mph and let it charge itself, then drive to a supercharger.
@mikebreen2890
Жыл бұрын
It's included in both my breakdown services (one from the car manufacturer, one I pay for separately because they are generally better rated. No, I have never needed them.
@chrisbailey4759
Жыл бұрын
If the makers of EV's had thought about the problem of people running out of charge a bit deeper, they could have made it possible for the vehicle to be charged and towed at the same time, and the addition of an extra charging socket at the front of the vehicle could be used to speed up the charging process further by utilising the generator on the recovery vehicle if it had one, this would benefit the customer by being able to proceed with the journey while the vehicle gets a decent amount of charge.
@brushlessmotoring
Жыл бұрын
You can in fact tow and charge an EV using its regenerative braking - puts a big strain on the towing vehicle though. You could also charge while on a flatbed. But far more likely than all this, is you get a flatbed come get you and bring you the 5 miles to the fast charger you fell short of and charge there. 4 years and 50,000 miles and I've never run out, or even come close after seeing these tests.
@richardmeech7422
Жыл бұрын
Surely the warning light is of a tortoise to indicate that you are slowing down. NOT a turtle.
@reallyisitjustme
Жыл бұрын
Very useful information, will definitely save some of the anxiety from not knowing, would have been nice if you had done more of a summary of distance travelled for all the cars, not just the first, now when are you going to test all other EVs?
@johnjriggsarchery2457
Жыл бұрын
It's not her job to help with your anxiety.
@mikejankowski6321
Жыл бұрын
I didn't have to go thru many comments to see someone else thinking along my line. A chart of how many miles each vehicle ran after the 0% or 0 miles remaining announcement would have been nice. Just as a data point for comparison. The real thrust of the piece was the experience of running down to zero and how it comes to a stop. Very well done.
@MohsenSafari-w3m
Жыл бұрын
You Review the cars and still don't know that flashes Ac and som other parts of EV works on separate Battery, it's amazing how much self confidence you have!!!
@kellyeye7224
Жыл бұрын
Great reporting and even greater to see Philippa on the screen again - what a simply lovely lady!
@KellyandDoug
Жыл бұрын
I think all the lights work off the lead acid battery
@matpat2636
Жыл бұрын
Yes. But there’s no alternator, so the 12v battery is charged off the main traction battery.
@mrcogginsgarage7062
Жыл бұрын
And for that very reason,the lead acid batteries,some have more than one,Are allways kept a a full charge,hence the ability to use lights and the Hazard warnings.
@rodden1953
Жыл бұрын
Charging places are on my info screen there is always somewhere to charge , i just cant see how anyone can run out .
@JoeBlowUK
Жыл бұрын
I drive a Toyota Corolla 2.0L GR Sport Hybrid. 500 mile range if you drive sensibly, goes onto pure battery mode as you cruise through built-up areas so zero emissions in villages towns and cities, just short of 200 bhp so plenty of power when you need it. No need to plug in to charge the battery, as it charges itself using regenerative braking or using the engine if needed. This is the technology that should have been implemented during the phase we are in, while new technology is developed and/or infrastructure is put in place for the next phase.
@pierre-rose7783
Жыл бұрын
I'd rather use an EV for local trips as opposed to long highway trips ! If I could afford one to begin with !
@brushlessmotoring
Жыл бұрын
Arrange a Tesla rental for a long trip one time, it's best in class, just use the Nav, it takes care of everything.
@mrmidland_traveller936
Жыл бұрын
Very useful information. Nice to know there is a margin of error in the SOC battery indicator. As other EV owners have said, why would you not look for a charge point when you’re below 15% or so. Thank you for doing such friendly videos.
@oliguayasebesteves166
Жыл бұрын
Because of Putin 😂😂😂
@cjmillsnun
Жыл бұрын
The only time I haven't is when I'm close to my destination and I know I can charge there.
@elgorrion52
Жыл бұрын
Yep, top up below 15% or so for any fuel, no different for an EV
@michaeltutty1540
Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. I live in Central Ontario, Canada. Winter temperatures can easily reach -20°C and -40 is not unheard of. I am in a small city about 60 miles north of Toronto. All it would take is a serious collision in winter with Highway 400 (6 lane dual carriage motorway) to close the road for hours, and the batteries could well be in trouble. What happens when you run out of power? Not like you have a Jerry can of extra electrons. I can see it now. Highway opens, traffic begins to move, and the EVs are all needing recovery because sitting dead in the middle of a major motorway is not conducive to waiting hours for a booster vehicle.
@solentbum
Жыл бұрын
Most EVs can sit with the heater running for many hours without problems, and still have enough to drive on.
@pauls3204
Жыл бұрын
@@solentbumthat is simply not true. Ask Tesco who are running 5500 electric delivery vans , which manage 80 miles in mild weather or 60 miles if you use the heater and or lights . Driver told me himself, they’re trying to get out of the lease agreement as it costing them a lot of money in delivery failures and wasted goods .
@JP-sm4cs
Жыл бұрын
I need a source for that my reasonably old nissan leaf can do almost double that distance...
@missiontent111
Жыл бұрын
Once you drop below ten miles range, find a SAFE place to park. DO NOT use hazard warning lights as these will flatten the 12volt service battery, meaning the controls will not work. Either call out a recharge business or a conventional car recovery operator to load you and transport you to the nearest charging point. Flattening your 12 volt service battery so the controls don't work will create a big problem for both recharge and recovery options. Recharge is the better option but DO NOT FLATTEN your 12 volt service battery
@peghead
Жыл бұрын
That EV quick-charge rescue vehicle gig looks like a piece of cake. No crawling on ones belly to hook up chains or kneeling on the cold, wet shoulder changing a tire or getting filthy fiddling with an engine, , , just pull up, plug in and wait. Of course, the down-side is the rescuer is going to have to listen to the 'rescued' go on and on lamenting buying an EV in the first place. The rescue tech should have an assortment of snacks and beverages he can then sell to the customer, for an inflated nominal fee.
@alexdalgleish1061
Жыл бұрын
Seems not every EV gives you 20 miles at 0% which might be a good safety feature and reduce breakdown having to be called out.
@elgorrion52
Жыл бұрын
Yes a common standard in miles/km regardless of size, weight etc
@andywicker9865
Жыл бұрын
How many minutes of REAL in your face warning did each give? And how many miles/kilometers or feet/inches did each give to allow you to safely remove yourself from a motorway? Sometimes the next exit might be miles away, which is seconds at 70 mph, but might be minutes at 25 or 30 mph. Great test!
@charlesdeakins2546
Жыл бұрын
Good points raised, well presented, and done in a safe environment, Running out of power on an ev will put you and other motorists at risk , and for much longer than conventional or hybrid, The breakdown company staff have to take risks to rescue people, Which on many occasions is caused by not managing charging responsibly, to save money or time, or driving with a charging fault to the point of stopping instead of driving to the garage for repair,
@Emma-33
4 ай бұрын
EVs less likely to run out because if you have home charge you start with “full tank” every day unlike gas. THAT is the convenience
@janicewilliamson2534
Жыл бұрын
Nice detailed video but they left out for me a major question. How much do they charge to come out and rescue you. Or maybe that doesn't matter because if you can afford a ev money is not a problem.
@NR-nf1il
Жыл бұрын
I have another question. What would insurance cost be like for these vehicles
@mikebreen2890
Жыл бұрын
Recovery is included in standard breakdown cover, the suppliers obviously go by statistics and not the hysterical nonsense on this channel.
@mikebreen2890
Жыл бұрын
@@NR-nf1il £400 a year fully comprehensive including breakdown. MG5. Insurance companies go on hard statistics, not the nonsense on this channel.
@johnbrown3951
Жыл бұрын
We have an i-Pace and were on a mercy dash from Glasgow to Aberdeen in the dead of winter and my wife would not let me stop to charge as she needed to get to her very ill son as quickly as possible so we inevitably went into limp mode but luckily that lasted the 5 miles to the charger and it was vacant . If you have the Sat Nav set for the journey it shows the battery percentage running down to the destination but if I remember that included the limp mode range. We will not be doing that again I told my wife so inevitably on the way home instead of sitting for another !5 minutes in Dundee charging we had to stop 8 miles from our house to charge again but we made it. Our driving distance in winter was 160 miles but recently we had a 200 mile trip in summer and had 50 miles range left when we got home. It is still an awesome vehicle that I would not change, just as well as the values of them seems to have plummeted recently
@rumpoh8039
Жыл бұрын
A DELTIC LOCOMOTIVE on rubber tyres connected behind electric cars is definately THE WAY FORWARD.
@michaelheadley2041
Жыл бұрын
To be fair I never let my car get before 15% (the lowest I let it get so far) and even at that I could get another 20 miles out of it. Also I been lucky my local charging network has been reliable so far 🤞🏿
@dancarter482
Жыл бұрын
Last winter the road outside my gate was closed for 7 hrs. Traffic backed up for miles, a bus full of people. Three fire engines attended with generators, flood lights & hydraulic jaws of life. Four ambulances and the helicopter air ambulance had to land in the nearest village. NONE of that would have worked if everyone was relying on battery powered machinery - just keeping the bus passengers warm for 7 hrs .. .. ... ..
@frederick-howthetwomindswo8637
Жыл бұрын
I've been driving REAL (petrol)l powered cars for over 60 years now. NEVER any of this absolute crap. NEVER would I get into a electric car
@buzzyphantom
Жыл бұрын
In over 10 years of EV ownership I have never 'run out ', been close a couple of times but never actually run out. Depending on your EV depends on what recovery you have, with the Leaf you can ask the RAC to recover you to a charge point or home. It does actually show on the power meter less segments to indicate reducing power availability. The only time I have ever been recovered is due to a tyre blow out and that can happen on any car!
@wilkoone9155
Жыл бұрын
14 years, 5 BEVs never run out & I have never suffered from range anxiety!
@hoverbovver
Жыл бұрын
Like you my 8 year old Leaf has never run out. I bottled it once at 5% and begged a 13A socket off a friend but realise looking at this video that I could have continued for another 2 miles to get home.
@wilkoone9155
Жыл бұрын
I have run out of Diesel & petrol on more occasions than I care to remember, worse still I have put the wrong fuel in once or twice & that can be very expensive to remove.
@baddog9320
Жыл бұрын
@@wilkoone9155 Sounds like a bike would also work for you. If you don't have range anxiety with a EV you could be riding a bicycle instead. There is not a EV made that can last from charging point to charging point here. Its 245 miles of 85 mph and mountain roads. No EV today can do that. I hate when city people have their heads in the sand.
@baddog9320
Жыл бұрын
@@dynevor6327 But with fossil fuels you can carry extra fuel.
@tarix55
5 ай бұрын
Just watched a video from America where a Tesla was towed on the highway and it was getting charged whilst being towed.
@alastairharris1866
Жыл бұрын
it is the equivalent of buying a shiny new suit, wearing it out in public, and then finally being told you are in fact naked!
@uliman100
Жыл бұрын
EV runs out of battery... needs an ICE genrator to recover... 🤣
@brushlessmotoring
Жыл бұрын
Could have also been rescued with an electric Ford Transit with the 240V 30A inverter package, or could be tow-charged by another EV. In 40,000 miles, I've never needed this type of service, it's a rare exception.
@GeoHvl
Жыл бұрын
I had a Tesla, and I liked it owning a souped-up golf cart. It was a hoot to drive, it doubled my monthly power bill, it was a pain in the a$$ to plug it in, no spare tire, and long trips 30 min re-charge. Sold it. The thing that only makes any sense to me is to own a Hy-bred. Half electric half gas.
@jeffgrimston4565
Жыл бұрын
This explains why my breakdown insurance is so much cheaper for a Tesla than for all the fuel cars I have owned. One day I’ll meet an EV owner who has run out, but I doubt it will be anytime soon.
@richardblayney5898
Жыл бұрын
But this isn’t a break down…..this is poor planning
@Banditmanuk
Жыл бұрын
I like the rescue re-charge business model, think they are going to do well. I just wonder what happens in cold snap. Stuck on a snowed up blocked motorway with hardly any battery left......
@MichaelTheophilus906
Жыл бұрын
Freeze to death.
@eleahake7353
Жыл бұрын
The contraption becomes a fridge; handy for cooling down drinks and, keeping fruits and veggies fresh.
@steveholloway1963
Жыл бұрын
We had one catch fire here in Paphos smoke and pollution everywhere
@williewonka6694
Жыл бұрын
Deeply discharging a lead acid battery permantly shortens the life of the battery. It seems EVs could experience frequent deep discharges. What is the impact of deep discharges on Lithium ion batteries? Any performance curves of battery life vs deep discharges?
@joebloe9901
Жыл бұрын
Hilarious that you can't even push it out of the way. Millenial engineering at it's finest.
@NSBarnett
Жыл бұрын
When horseless carriages were first being developed and popularised, petrol and diesel were not the only game in town. There were steam cars and, yes, electric. And often, you didn't charge them, you swapped out the battery, so you'd get to a service station where they had dozens of batteries either charged or being charged and swap yours out for a charged one, and the time taken was much closer to filling up with petrol than charging a contemporary battery. If it wasn't for pollution and the climate, an ICE is a fine idea, but now it's literally suicide.
@No-timeforimbeciles
Жыл бұрын
Very happy with my 2.7 diesel 😊
@jimnunes6286
Жыл бұрын
What happens when your incendiary device runs out of electricty? You get a gas or diesel powered generator to charge it up!
@TheVMYak
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been driving for 40 years and ran out of fuel twice, both times because I was a twit. Use Ev as daily drive also have an XC90 for super long drives or when I need to shift stuff. No one ever mentions how much more likely you are to break down with an ICE engine and how much the dealers screw you for sensors and engine components. We’re 100 years in to ICE vehicles and less than 20 for viable EVs. Shout all you like ICE engines for daily drive will soon be a thing of the past, like VHS no one will care.
@haymish6943
Жыл бұрын
The zoe turned into an amphibious vehicle when a turtle appears
@the_lost_navigator7266
Жыл бұрын
The solution is simple, fit Bev's with smaller batteries and a range extender (like BMW i3 had). Most regular journeys done EV only, but a backup for longer journeys and charging issues. That's what I would like to have.
@jamesmoore5630
Жыл бұрын
I just bought my second Mercedes-Benz hybrid car. (2024 GLE350 AMG 4matic), The car can run out of gas and still get you to a gas station!!! It has a massive battery, and it is constantly recharging itself. If I run out, it will go to electric and get me home. No recharging at home, the car recharges itself!!! It has A.I. and I asked my car to; "Tell me a Joke!" It responded with; "I think I am too indecisive, but, I am just not sure!!!" So, the car has a 4d stereo, shuts itself off while idling, and can handle a road hump in silence. It also learns from "my" driving style. Brother James Kendall Moore OSB OFS OSC
@Frakka475
Жыл бұрын
In Northumberland, a very rural county, I know several electric car owners that are carrying diesel generators in the boots of their vehicle! They just don’t want to be stranded miles away from anyone or anywhere. It’s crazy! Thing is so many of the mileage range figures etc are based upon a track somewhere, not climbing up and down the Northern Pennines, where you can expect half the projected range in the summer, and goodness knows how little in the winter. Many in the dales use 4 x 4 diesels and I really can’t see that changing until tech and infrastructure is much better. Several rural stations in the hills actually have large independent fixed diesel generators in existing fuel stations!!! It’s incredibly frustrating generally, and very few people can afford multiple vehicles one for everyday and another if they have to head to the nearest city. It’s not terribly practical at present. I know of a couple of firms that invested heavily in new electric vans but they’re having to shelve them as they just can’t cope with real motoring and work, 3-4 hours use then 12hours charge, you can’t even get back to base following your normal rounds. Electric plant is even more sucky, 3 hours digging or trenching then you’ve got to haul it back and use another massive multi vehicle generator at base as the plant has different charging requirements to vans. Businesses can’t sustain this, let alone the general motorist up here!!! So from the standard emergency charge if you’re caught out you get 10 miles from your charge point, when the charging vehicle finally arrives, it’s more likely to need to 40-50 miles up and down 18-25 percent gradients, to get to any infrastructure, it seems that consideration of motoring difficulties doesn’t extend much beyond SW1, vehicles aren’t just a means of conveyance from your “week time only, second home” to your office in the House of Commons!
@hamshackleton
Жыл бұрын
The lights, fan, and radio all work off the 12v battery, NOT the traction battery, so they WILL keep working when the car stops. What you have to be wary of is the 12v battery running down, because you left the lights on, or something, because then, even if the traction battery is full, the on-board computer won't start up, so the car will be dead.
@eastonvonschist2283
Жыл бұрын
Evs have a very long way to go before ever becoming the norm if ever!
@lordj805
Жыл бұрын
Hello Philippa, Not seen you in any content for decades. Just for giggles, I was born in 1965, and in my teenage years my favourite show was tomorrows world, where along came this vibrant young presenter who, dare I say it, I had a teenage crush on. I seem to remember an episode where you appeared pregnant, that dashed my teenage dreams, lol. anyway, so happy to see you looking well and producing content again; on any platform. I don't have the crush anymore, but, you are still beautiful and of course I subscribed.
@joeandliz-5acrehomestead964
Жыл бұрын
She's able to go so far because of flat road. Imagine if you had a hill or till it would only be a mile or 2.
@johnbolt665
Жыл бұрын
I love seeing people at charging stations sitting in their cars twiddleing their fingers!
@larrybailey711
Жыл бұрын
Everything I need to know about EV batteries I learned when I was five from a flashlight.
@fraggit
Жыл бұрын
Petrol/diesel to the rescue, how deliciously ironic.
@williambigg6765
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what they charge and how long it takes.
@bikerbernie821
Жыл бұрын
Glad you address the non-controlled environment, but I'm telling you I know people and you give them too much credit they will never plan ahead and where to pull over, that also being said there are too many self-important people out there but I guarantee you will call all three agencies to get a charge to see which one gets there first I don't have an EV I never plan to have one and if I can think of that certainly the self-important people will think of that by the way causing a bigger traffic issue
@garywheeler60
Жыл бұрын
What happens is you fire up the Genset you carry in the back and charge the thing up while you sit in the side of the road wishing you had a real vehicle.
@aware2action
Жыл бұрын
The range of an EV is pretty much soft limited. This is because, you don't run battery too low, to cause reliability issues later(for example: formation of dendrites, that short out anode and cathode, or permanent capacity degradation). There is also the need for minimal equipment operation(such as emergency blinkers, operation of electric door locks etc.), to ensure safety of the occupants. In anycase, there is always a hidden reserve capacity, set by the manufacturer. Some cars estimate range more accurately, making it more predictable. Also, to avoid range anxiety, the driving style need to be altereded, esp. the max speed(reducing from 90 miles to 65 miles, could add 30% to predicted range). Just some 💭❤👍
@rumpoh8039
Жыл бұрын
WHAT did the power station create as WASTE PRODUCT?? SOOT?? CO2?? ACID RAIN??? NUCLEAR WASTE??? those are the emissions of electric cars
@mauritsvw
12 күн бұрын
It would be nice if technology would some time in the future provide us with a potent battery small enough to replenish an empty EV, just like we do with a can of gas today when somebody runs out of fuel.
@curleycale8274
Жыл бұрын
What happens in an EV when it runs out of fuel is exactly what happens in an ICE car. It stops and you have to refuel. I have had many difficulties with charging when promised charge stations have broken chargers or long queues, so I understand range anxiety, but really we always had to be sure that we could find fuel when travelling. And one difference is that if you are delayed because of traffic you weren't wasting fossil fuel as you only use electricity if you are actually moving. Certainly there are a lot of chargers being installed all over the place, including multiple chargers and rapid charges for vehicles who can use that.
@chrischamberlen9379
8 ай бұрын
Arthur daley himself couldnt sell this bollocks😂
@lesjones471
Жыл бұрын
Would like to know what damage is happening to that flat battery.does the battery lose some recharge time everytime it's charged ie starts to die a little everytime you do run low and does not hold it's charge to full capacity again.I have metion this before is why can't the maufacture make tray battery packs like you can have for some camera flashes which use say 4 batteries but are replaceable quickly.Then have them standardised throughout the vehicles then have garages that hold large quantities of them fully charged.you drive in get your batteries changed for whatever mileage you want then pay for them,It's a bit like filling your car up at a petrol station but it will be batteries that are already topped up for a quick change.It's like 8 x AAA battery packs.my idea stops this long charging times at the powerpoints.
@JelMain
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget, an EV weighs 50% more than a petrol car (as a certain garage in New York discovered when they had half a dozen on the roof - it didn't survive). You'd need three big blokes to push it.
@78Terp
Жыл бұрын
70k miles driven in my Bolt. Never have run out of power.
@jcfallows
Жыл бұрын
Every battery has several kw's in reserve to stop the battery being completely drained. Anyone daft enough to run out is the same as an ice car. You ring the breakdown service. Your hazards, radio, lights still work, because you have the 12v battery.
@keith4886
Жыл бұрын
This is RIDICULOUS!!!
@1414141x
Жыл бұрын
I have been questioning this for years and years. That was very informative. I would have liked more info on how far you can actually travel once the warnings start to appear. That would be useful as you can alter your route to (hopefully) get to the nearest charging point. The only big gap I see is that should you be stuck on the motorway or road and stuck in a large traffic stop, say because of an accident, what can you do then ?
@deaconnickdelucca4239
Жыл бұрын
Don’t buy an overpriced piece of s….
@peterdavidson3890
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much this breakdown Service would cost and what about the time element involved especially in the darkness hours ? No one seems to calculate what the second hand/used EV car market prices would be if the first owners had used up 5 years of the battery warranty ? Would you buy one knowing that new batteries costs are many many thousands to replace ? Will your insurance policies cover that replacement cost ? Hybrid is the only “safe” way of introducing electric powered vehicles that are not dependant on random charging points.
@visionsinblue7093
Жыл бұрын
The 'recovery' costs £44.95 for 12 months 'pre-paid insurance' and you wait for up to 90 minutes. Cheaper than the AA or RAC!
@daddynunya9045
Жыл бұрын
Would love to watch this in the US just to see Triple A's reaction. As far as using a gasoline generator that is just being cheap. A battery pack charged by the rescue vans alternator would seem to be more in line with the green views of electric car owners, you could even mount a generators power head with a clutch like your A/C compressor uses to turn it on and off. I'm sure it won't be long until the aftermarket starts modifying vehicles for this particular purpose much like they do now for ambulances and work body trucks.
@i.b.deplorable
Жыл бұрын
Daddy, you said, "A battery pack charged by the rescue vans alternator would seem to be more in line with the green views " - Did you think this through before posting it? If a van has an alternator to charge a battery pack, that means that the van is burning gasoline or diesel fuel to keep the (very large) battery pack charged up. How is that different from just carrying a generator?
@daddynunya9045
Жыл бұрын
@@i.b.deplorable Generator heads are alternators 9n most modern generators. If used they could charge the large battery while driving with the very clean running, emissions compliant van motor instead of the very polluting small engine of the current generator. What didn't you understand about what I wrote. Green and woke to?
@harrycalibra
Жыл бұрын
Give you heads up you don't run out of battery you run out of charge - 🙄🙄
@raypitts4880
Жыл бұрын
like cutting hay you cut the grass dry it then bale it up
@richardcurnow9573
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. What age are the vehicles? What distance have they travelled? Would a ten year old 150, 000 mile car be possible and if so what results be obtained?
@BrightonandHoveActually
Жыл бұрын
Siurely it's not a turtle - unless you are driving underwater. It should be tortoise!
@jamesmurphy4976
Жыл бұрын
That was dangerous driving across a runway when a plane was about to land, I don't think the CAA will be happy with that.
@antonbrum5492
Жыл бұрын
Just to correct you relating to Lithium ion flat batteries. Most EV batteries will not fall below 30% of their capacity, this is due to voltage drop where there is insufficient storage battery capacity to provide power to the drive train or wheel motors. The same applies to recharging, where the total battery capacity will only get to 80% fully charged. Lithium ion batteries are extremely dangerous if shorted out or quickly charged.
@dmitripogosian5084
Жыл бұрын
In UK, I wonder if it is actually cheaper to tow the car for 10 miles, than wait for 1/2 hour + to recharge it to that distance ?
@martinjohnson9316
Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much quicker shutdown is on a cold dark night in the winter with heater on, lights blazing (to avoid being hit) and radio to keep you informed of news. Running your battery down may not be good for the long term health of these types of batteries too. EV 's are basically an expensive scam.
@fus149hammer5
Жыл бұрын
If I'm correct most ev's (my electric cab did) have a standard 12v battery in the boot which is used to start the vehicle, run the lights and auxiliary equipment. Once that's drained you really are dead in the water.
@brianmcintyre8563
9 ай бұрын
In a colder country, like Canada, you could freeze to death if you are in a remote area.
@TimSmith-uc4pk
Жыл бұрын
That Recovery Vehicle Is Called A Wrecker. Lol
@richardgarrett8087
Жыл бұрын
With all the RV parks, hotel chargers, Walmarts and Crackerbarrels and Bucees, where is the charge problem?
@Benjones-k7n
Жыл бұрын
what needs to be said. we all know about how ev users spend all their time worrying and waiting for they cars to charge.
@billgaytes6845
Жыл бұрын
You ring the AA and tell them you have run out of battery juice on your EV. After waiting 3 hours for the van to arrive they look in your EV and confirm you have run out of battery juice and then you wait another 3 hours for the generator or flat bed to arrive. (other breakdown services are available).
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