Seems like some guys are looking at bullpups as a PDW. I want to reiterate that PDW's are dependent on an INTENDED DEFENSIVE ROLE. The Tavor was designed as a general purpose rifle. The MP5a3, UMP, etc were designed as a general purpose SMG. While these can be pressed into PDW use (though the Tavor is more of a military PDW use), they were designed with a general purpose intent. The Steyr TMP/ B&T MP9/TP9 does not explicitly say it's a PDW, but the layout seems to go the direction of the Vz61 where it's categorized as a machine pistol, but in reality is a ground-up type I design with Type III SMG internals.
@tommyguns4018
3 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the truck gun video as my x95 goes with me when i travel up north but my mpx is always by my side as an every day urban roll for my vehicle.
@DiggingForFacts
3 жыл бұрын
I think that's the main stumbling block for people: whenever we discuss the weapons, we try to classify them by type or design style, whereas for all practical points and purposes, they are defined by their role. This requires people to make a few extra mental steps because these roles often share characteristics with other roles. For example, the desired compactness of the PDW for vehicle crews is technically a different requirement to the desired compactness of bullpup rifles and carbines for mechanized infantry, but since in both cases it is about compactness for vehicles (and there is in fact a bit of overlap in the venn diagrams here) people still have difficulty making the distinction between "compact enough to not get in the way when operating inside a vehicle as a primary role, while prodiving a modicum of firepower" and "compact enough to be carried and operated inside an IFV in case the need arises, while providing the tactical capabilities of a full-power combat rifle". The constant mental jumps between intended tactical application and practical application, as well as the overlapping thereof means that there isn't really a neat little box to put the PDW and human brains tend to have difficulty with things not going in neat little boxes. Then there is also the added problem of the PDW's intended tactical role not necessarily applying to civilian life as well, so for a person buying a PS-90, there doesn't seem to be much difference in application to any other SBR they might buy on the market.
@lucion511
3 жыл бұрын
Tricky to classify: Swedish AK5D: Sub-carbine or Type 4 PDW? Russian AS Val. (8" barrel) 9x39 integrally suppressed: Sub-carbine or Type 4 PDW? German HK 237/337/437. (9" barrel) 300Blkout versions of G36C/416C/and 433C. Sub-carbines or Type 4 PDWs?
@actionhirvimoose4294
3 жыл бұрын
@@lucion511 as val is easy as it was intended for taking out guards, dogs and other stuff silently. It was not intended for personal defense.
@Picolinni
3 жыл бұрын
I’d argue that the L22 is a Type 4 PDW, while it is labelled a carbine, it is used functionally as you would expect a PDW. I’d also argue that the PDW/carbine designations often over lap.
@Gallagher.661
2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the m1 carbine, my dad talked to a Korean war vet recently and asked him his opinion about people saying they would shoot people but it wouldn't stop them. He just said "you actually have to hit them. Then they go down." Excited for the series
@newerest1
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if therefore this means all those eyewitness accounts of the 'heavy winter coats' in korea really were accounts of their ballistic drop off at distance, in actual trajectory
@dennisligma4958
Жыл бұрын
@@newerest1 9mm still goes tthru 4 inches of pine wood at 300 yrds so a jacket or coat...
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
Жыл бұрын
@@newerest1Yeah it’s 100% guys missing.
@manor-studios
9 ай бұрын
😂
@JackkDevil
Ай бұрын
Most people forget that 1950s gunpowder can be a little lacking when the outside temperature is -20
@AdministrativeResults
3 жыл бұрын
This video was a blast to watch. Flattered to sneak in.
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
dude that sick beat was not sneaking in.
@0juice683
3 жыл бұрын
Def started vibing when you came on the screen.
@carldouglasmiles5594
3 жыл бұрын
Executive Outcomes has trained you well.
@jaksahn3370
3 жыл бұрын
Almost mag fumbled. Real nigga
@thiccfork8664
3 жыл бұрын
Big chimp energy
@stevemc6010
3 жыл бұрын
The PP-2000 is definitely a moon rock that I wish we saw more of.
@alexandermichailovich7442
3 жыл бұрын
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@yulusleonard985
3 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure TSKIBSOO arsenal will be releasing one to the public this year but unless you are a Russian you cant buy it.
@HappyBeezerStudios
2 жыл бұрын
there are quite some interesting Russian smgs that deserve more attention
@R3TR0J4N
27 күн бұрын
love the gun in BF4 Noshar Canal
@iDJVinyl
3 жыл бұрын
As a recovery operator in the army, you made me feel loved bringing up our struggles!
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
dude i was 91 series too! people will never understand the struggles till you're running cables in snatch blocks at 100 def f with a freaking M16A2
@soup31314
3 жыл бұрын
@@9HoleReviews in 94-96 at fort hood our mechanics were still issued m3 grease guns for use on the m88
@TheRealColBosch
3 жыл бұрын
This former 19K greatly appreciated your efforts!
@ScottKenny1978
3 жыл бұрын
@@9HoleReviews got two words for that, Henry: hell no! I don't want to do that if I don't absolutely 100% have to. Life or death only. Besides, I was a submariner, so had nuclear powered air conditioning!
@LadyAnuB
3 жыл бұрын
Recovery operator? What is this person? (I was the 5-ton driver for the engineering company I was assigned to in the 7th ID (Light), '89-'91. Unit vehicles, the 5-ton, one 4 door commander's HMMWV, and 2 truck variant HMMWVs.)
@teufelshundtactical
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I’m a sucker for a well organized and presented video that provides history and background.
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to our next venture mit Deutschstahl ;)
@nemesis6680
3 жыл бұрын
Gut
@iamsonedisoncahaya4845
2 жыл бұрын
Can i have M2 Carbine with drum mag?
@JensTX
3 жыл бұрын
it's a small thing, but 5.7*28 was recently adopted as a STANAG caliber, like 5.56 and 9*19. It's been classified as the STANAG 4509 since about the end of February this year (2021).
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
3 жыл бұрын
Good thing, too. 5.7 seems to be more danger than its worth to reload, but if the ammo becomes more available I'll do something with it. I like the round, it fits a niche, but right now isnt the time to invest in a completely new round to me.
@OfficialFedHater
2 жыл бұрын
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz It's a cool round, but its adoption seems weird to me. It seems like a cartridge looking for a reason to exist. Sure it penetrates soft armor... but who cares? How is that useful for NATO troops? An FN 5.7 pistol is still large compared to even an Beretta 92, sure it's light for its size and holds a lot of ammo, but what's the real advantage over a 9mm service handgun when it's likely not going to be used much anyways? Maybe for MP units where they don't want rifles being carried, but why go through the trouble of having a completely separate caliber for a subset of your troops? I just don't see the advantage of something like a P90 when you can use something like a short barreled M4 and get better results in a bit larger package.
@yorhaunit8s
2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialFedHater Video explains what are the downsides of short barrelled M4s: they are generally a bit less reliable, have a huge concussion blast and muzzle flash because the cartridge is meant for longer barrel. This is especially a problem if used in an enclosed environment.
@OfficialFedHater
2 жыл бұрын
@@yorhaunit8s Then throw a can on it. I've not heard much about reliability issues, unless you're using something like a 7" barrel which is useless, I think it should be at least 12" imo, many people do 10.5", and I've not heard of many reliability issues with something like the mk18. And even then, there's still 9mm smgs. I just can't see a benefit to 5.7 in a military use that makes it worthwhile to adopt it.
@HMSNeptun
2 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialFedHater it was supposed to counter Russian paratroopers with heavy body armor but they also failed at that by not penetrating said russian body armor
@Deanosaurous
3 жыл бұрын
Boss makes a dollar I make a dime, that's why I'm watching 9HR on company time.
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
haha it's Friday anyways :)
@Jargolf86
3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@inquisitorkryptman7893
3 жыл бұрын
Why dissbelief between boss and his employees are became trends again
@ratagris21
3 жыл бұрын
Here here!!!
@Gorkabandit
3 жыл бұрын
I think almost anyone watching this this early is
@rogo7330
3 жыл бұрын
«I didn't hit nothing, I hit EVERYTHING» - Average АПС enjoyer.
@serioussoldier7977
3 жыл бұрын
The ease of use is what makes the M1 carbine shine in my eyes. It’s what I use to teach my girlfriend about rifle marksmanship, the simple controls and light weight are invaluable when it comes to arming someone of her stature.
@jakeroberts7435
3 жыл бұрын
My older daughter, twenty nine, seems to have acquired mine, can't get it back. But its all good, except for the ammo thing
@serioussoldier7977
3 жыл бұрын
@@jakeroberts7435 it’s not all that hard to find, just ask your local gun shop if they could do a special order. PPU, wolf, etc it’s not all that expensive at where I’m at.
@jakeroberts7435
3 жыл бұрын
@@serioussoldier7977 Yeah, I've got to special order 30 cal. for the carbine, but its available. What a fun gun and it packs a wollup at close range, it will be a good zombie gun.
@serioussoldier7977
3 жыл бұрын
@@jakeroberts7435 definitely, my girlfriend was able to put down a 1” group with it and she’s a relatively new shooter.
@jakeroberts7435
3 жыл бұрын
@@serioussoldier7977 I love that gun, back in the sixties my dad had to qualify with weapons periodically, he was an Air Force pilot, that was one of the guns l got to shoot the hell out of at the range. Lots of surplus ammo back then, and the one my daughter has was a military hand me down, we've got some cool stuff, the hand me downs, my family was military for along time, back to Cuba anyway. But the little M1 is a dandy, my daughter shoots the heck out of it, and guess who supplies the ammo. 😞😝
@jimterracall6766
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including the M-1 carbine! Give it the metal folding “paratrooper” stock and it’s really high on the list. Add the M-2 full auto kit and you can really burn through some “extra” ammo!
@flightlesschicken7769
Ай бұрын
My wallet hurts thinking about using an M2 with the current price of 30 Carbine lol
@instantnoodles2678
3 жыл бұрын
first time ive seen administrative results in a serious context.
@jimyeats
3 жыл бұрын
He was featured in the Ron Jeremy/Taskforce 69 documentary. So…thats pretty serious.
@bartholomewgreatpants3425
3 жыл бұрын
I've only seen him in the most serious of instances.
@Kaiserland111
3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that NATO has adopted the 5.7x28 mm round as a standard. Hopefully we'll see more PDS development in the future!
@thatguy1080
Ай бұрын
Tell that to H&K and their MP7.
@Tuton25
3 жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting to see a stocked FK BRNO Field Pistol or PSD to see how it performs in comparison to other stocked handguns and dedicated PDWs.
@spudgamer6049
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, though I went a bit further and wondered how a type I or PCC in that caliber would do as well.
@flightlesschicken7769
3 жыл бұрын
Probably similar to the M1 Carbine. Ballistically it is very similar to 30 Carbine
@Tuton25
3 жыл бұрын
@Saturn frankly it seems to be a lot easier to bust out into the firearms market in the $7,500 to $20,000 range than it is to compete in the $750 to $2,000. I see the Field Pistol being a far more successful product for FK BRNO than the PSD from a business standpoint...
@lucastonoli3256
3 жыл бұрын
@Saturn Kind of depends on how much they depend on the pistols to stay afloat and how much infrastructure they have. I understand they landed some contracts too, so maybe they aren't as bad off as some assume. It's hard to accept not all products are made for the regular consumer, but that's the truth. Hell, B&T would be long gone if they depended only on the US civilian market, but they are far from going down.
@0dayExploit
3 жыл бұрын
@@spudgamer6049 I think a PDW in 7.5 would be awesome. A bit longer barrel to really give the 7.5’s already impressive ballistics even more velocity
@SMACK1978
3 жыл бұрын
No mention of the greatest PDW ever devised… “The Dirt Squirrel” 🐿
@jamesray1439
3 жыл бұрын
@DomesticPenguin the honey badger is by far the most advanced but I don’t think it’s seen near enough combat to be called “the greatest”.
@ghostmourn
3 жыл бұрын
long live the dirty squirrel!
@Outland9000
3 жыл бұрын
@DomesticPenguin Nah, that would be 'Sugar Weasel'.
@lonnieporter8566
2 жыл бұрын
What in the cat hair is a 'dirt squirrel?'
@ferrisbueller9991
Жыл бұрын
@Frankjoe1991 I believed the Sugar Weasel was the HB's only lesser (poor man's) cousin. Also offered by Q. Q looks like a cool ass company I'd be willing to choose for my first real gun but a lot of people have poor words for them hence my hesitance.
@warbrush
3 жыл бұрын
Its been a while since I've owned a full length semi-auto rifle. I love PDWs and they pair excellently with my bolt guns
@Cowboy.underwater
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@ScottKenny1978
3 жыл бұрын
Aside from a nostalgia factor ("I carried an M16 in 'Nam" as an example), I'm hard pressed to want a full length semi auto rifle aside from the SVT40. Even a Mk12 SPR is a couple inches shorter than a standard M16A2.
@ES90344
3 жыл бұрын
Music had a very Deus Ex Human Revolution vibe. Oh, the video on PDW's featuring several of my favorite YT'ers was pretty cool too I guess.
@OniGanon
3 жыл бұрын
I could've sworn it was from XCOM.
@dentonw6ir0qf15
3 жыл бұрын
It's literally a song from the DXHR soundtrack I'm pretty sure
@hippoace
3 жыл бұрын
@@OniGanon yeah i tot it has XCOM bgm vibes....
@omgitznumbers
3 жыл бұрын
happy im not the only one who thought of DX
@AM-dc7pv
2 жыл бұрын
Yasss...DXHR main screen//menu OST, I wanna say.
@godzilla1463
3 жыл бұрын
*Now this is quality content*
@donh1572
3 жыл бұрын
Now we need to see PDW's like the p90 on the 500 yard course!!!
@WALTERBROADDUS
3 жыл бұрын
500 yards? That's a rifle threat. PDW is 1 or 2 blocks.
@donh1572
3 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS yet they still find themselves being used at longer ranges. Look at M1 carbine at Korean War
@WALTERBROADDUS
3 жыл бұрын
@@donh1572 More of a misuse.... Asking it to be a assault rifle. Still, better than a Grease Gun or a Thompson.
@donh1572
3 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS Maybe, but you never know the situation you get thrown in and you work with what you have. In addition plenty of long range marksmen competition over the decades involved the M1 carbine. Plus pdw have been used on the 500yard course before. So let’s see what the true potential of these guns are
@thatguybrody4819
3 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS the 5.7 out of the P90 with the high velocity and flat trajectory makes for surprising accuracy for a small package.
@iamshrekowski7659
3 жыл бұрын
M1 carbine is my favorite firearm of all time. I live in upper peninsula of Michigan and if I do anything in the woods it’s the rifle that comes with me. Solid deer rifle at 150 yards or less too
@pb7087
3 жыл бұрын
I just wish the ammo was more common. Online availability is rather common and it’s nice that defensive loads like Hornady critical defense and LeHigh Cavitator are available. But in brick and mortar stores, it’s frequently out of stock, even before Covid. Places just don’t care to keep it stocked because so few people/guns shoot the caliber.
@jamesclater8876
3 жыл бұрын
@@pb7087 thats the exact reason i sold mine several years ago... switched to 9mm PCC's i really like them but they dont have the feel of the m1 carbine
@iamshrekowski7659
3 жыл бұрын
@@pb7087 I Can find ammo pretty regularly up here at Dunham’s sports stores. Online is pretty common as well like you said.
@lowspeedhighdrag
3 жыл бұрын
How’s things in the UP? It’s one of the areas I’d consider retiring to. However, I live in Ohio. My wife of 35 years, is a diehard OSU fan. She’s threatened divorce at the minimum if any such relocation to the Land of Evil occurs.
@Xeemix
3 жыл бұрын
The SR-2 Veresk is a very interesting weapon I'd consider a PDW, Personally I love type II's (Stechkin lover forever), I'll be using this system of classification from now on!
@user936
3 жыл бұрын
I think we can agree - PDW's are some of the most fun to shoot weapons out there.
@Menhadien
3 жыл бұрын
I like how this is a greatest hits of all the various gun youtubers. Cool video guys.
@stewbacca117
3 жыл бұрын
I love it when way more professional folks with more reach and better production values make content that reflects the shower thoughts I've been wrestling with over how to explain or classify PDWs. Awesome vid, also loving all the mentions/features of other creators footage - will have to check out their ones I wasn't already aware of. 👍
@hughmungus4877
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these types of videos from you, they're always entertaining and informative. You can see the effort and time that was put through. I also just love the pdw class of weapons.
@AceFalken
3 жыл бұрын
I like the classifications even though the term PDW will always be a loose one. This is more befitting to it then the previous way it was used in the last decade or 2. I think this fits more generally on what several manufacturers and organizations have been looking for compared to the 90's definition
@bryy2053
3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of the different types of pdw. This video exceeded my expectations of how you would cover this topic. Very well done. Ive got the type 3 covered with the Scorpion Evo 3 S2 micro and the type 4 with a DDM4V7 PDW, and didn't have much interest in the other types.......until now. You expanded my knowlege, thought process and appreciation for some others that I had overlooked.
@makevelicustoms
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the most coolest well informed channels in The game 👏🏻
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
Thank :)
@MsAkmc
3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite gun channel! I have a 10.5 in ch ar and I really understand the “blast “ that it gives off especially indoors. M1/m2 carbine definitely has become my favorite pdw type rifles! Keep up the fantastic work!!!
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 12.5 w/ Surefire close tined SOCOM flash hider. The blast isnt as bad as I thought it would be, but I know that if I had to let loose I'm going deaf and maybe a bit concussed.
@craigsteinkamp12
3 жыл бұрын
The M1 Carbine is one of the most finely balanced firearms I’ve ever held.
@chosentwice1839
3 жыл бұрын
How reliable is it though? Can you fire two magazines without malfunction?
@craigsteinkamp12
3 жыл бұрын
@@chosentwice1839 I’m just saying it balanced well when shouldered. Also for it’s time I’d say it was okay.
@joshuajoaquin5099
3 жыл бұрын
@@chosentwice1839 source on that malfunctioning part?
@chosentwice1839
3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuajoaquin5099 bro just type M1 reliability into the same application you’re on right now.
@craigsteinkamp12
3 жыл бұрын
If you asked anyone on this thread would you rather have a) the M1 Carbine or b) an AK-74su we all know what people would choose
@kylesmith7733
3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see some more PDW content! Would love to see the DDM4PDW with a law folder, and a tiger PC charger with a brace.
@karriemsodfbt
3 жыл бұрын
You guys NEVER fail to make sure everything is explained in detail. Thank you i been trying to explain PDWs to my wife... NOW ..she gets it...THANK YOU!!!!!
@AdventureswithaaronB
3 жыл бұрын
Arguably one of the best videos I’ve ever watched, I still think the M1 carbine is the perfect PDW
@BenfromFlux
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but PDWs are my focus, and I would like to add/amend certain parts: I think the most important classifications are by purpose, not how they came to be. In addition, the primary mission set of a PDW is in the name, a personal defense weapon. There are few situations outside of war that involve defensive shooting past 100 yards. The best PDW is the most firepower in the smallest controllable package. Amongst those who have used them in battle, the MP7 and P90 are not well liked, and while the ammunition availability is a problem, it is not the primary issue. Both rounds are anemic, they do not do enough immediate disruptive tissue damage, and do not actually have increased functional ranges. The 5.7 is better than the 4.6, but they have failed tier one guys way too many times. I have heard nothing but hate from those who have shot people with the MP7, which is much different than steel or paper. The Flux Raider, not shown nor mentioned in the video, does use the M17/p320 operating system, but other than those assemblies is much more of a ground up approach, rather than a stocked or braced pistol, or a conversion. It currently is the lightest, smallest, fastest controllable package with the most firepower. Again, these are the most important attributes for a PDW. Thank you for an awesome video on a forgotten topic.
@v12ts.gaming
Жыл бұрын
I thought the Flux MP17 is a conversion because you just slap a regular M17 upper onto the Raider lower...
@BenfromFlux
Жыл бұрын
@@v12ts.gaming Sure, it could be classified as a conversion, but most conversions also use the lower or frame of the pistol, building around it, instead of just using the operating system.
@v12ts.gaming
Жыл бұрын
@@BenfromFlux with that, are you in Pro or Contra to the belief that the MP17 is a Type 2? Because by definition, Type 2 PDW's are mainly based on regular pistols. In the case of MP17, it is indeed based on the M17/P320 pistol hence the name. So naturally, it's a Type 2.
@jamesbridges7750
3 жыл бұрын
Great vid guys! Always had a thing for "In-Betweeners" as I call them- whether DMRs and Automatic Rifles or PDWs. 5.7 type II's starting to come on line with the Ruger 5.7 FCU - MP57 and hopefully Flux will get around to it, not optimal but low hanging fruit .
@backwoodsbrooksknives4625
3 жыл бұрын
CAA should have an MCK in the works for the Ruger 57. That would be awesome because it would be in the same vein as the Hellcat variant they are going to release as in it is meant for a specific size gun. Going from handgun to braced subgun in seconds. That is a combo I could get behind.
@SlavicCelery
3 жыл бұрын
People who argue about what makes a DMR are worse than the PDW argue crowd.
@SlavicCelery
3 жыл бұрын
Specifically, a DMR must and only can be semi-auto. Completely ignoring the company level marksman found with a scoped Springfield rifle in WW2. That role is a DMR and not a sniper.
@jamesbridges7750
3 жыл бұрын
@@SlavicCelery more or less. There's some potential for crossover between the DMR and Automatic Rifle role like you see with the M38 in Marine use. Both Chuck Pressburg and Larry Vickers have talked about the HK21 with 1.5-6x optics used that way, which of course would make even more sense with an HK11. Then you have the Swiss DMR school teaching what they call "Sniping 4th Generation" ,which essentially creates a beaten zone with a DMR. Lot of flexibility with those two weapons.
@SlavicCelery
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbridges7750 absolutely. There was someone insisting that a G3 could never be used as a DMR...because it wasn't "accurate" enough. And DMR's have to be built specific, not a role.
@perspicacity89
3 жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive and highest quality video on this topic I have ever seen. Well done.
@alexis1052
3 жыл бұрын
The quality of those videos is truely impressive.
@justjimmy4171
3 жыл бұрын
LOVE the use of video from others in the community. Thanks for supporting the other channels too!
@dhunter48951
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love to see a video focused on a Personal Defense Case. 3 or 4 firearms that a may be put into a carry case for personal defense for a home, car, or open area with quick access. A all in one emergency case.
@BlazingGunner
3 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanations of the different kinds of PDW. I love my PDW's PS90, MP5,MP5K,MPX, Kriss Vectors in 45 ACP, 10mm and my Daniel Defense DDM4 PDW in 300 Black out.
@RelationshipAndTruth
2 жыл бұрын
The VZ-61 was designed from the ground up with mechanized troops in mind. It was always intended to have a stock option. It is not a shortened form of a preexisting design. With these facts in mind, I would say that the VZ-61 is a Type I PDW rather than a Type II.
@marktucker7454
3 жыл бұрын
As an ex Panzergrenadier mechanic my pdw was an HK 17 pistol with a secondary weapon of an MP5.
@TakNuke
3 жыл бұрын
People have argued that M1/M2/M3 carbine also falls in the category of assault rifle as it matches the progenitor of this category STG 44 in cartridge similarity, era, wide field usage ie not limited to rear echelon troops, similar dimension and similar versions.
@zoiders
3 жыл бұрын
There really isn't a huge amount of similarity in the cartridges. The 8mm Kurz is just far enough up the bell curve of muzzle energy to make it a true rifle cartridge, the .30 Carbine trails behind by a considerable margin. The round closest to the .30 Carbine and the one it directly went up against in combat in Korea was the 7.62 Tokarev.
@borkwoof696
3 жыл бұрын
I think the M2 carbine is much more akin to an assault rifle than to a pdw. However, this is where the application based vs. technical merit based definition difference becomes tricky. The M2 carbine is both an assault rifle and a pdw because both terms are based off different categories of definitions
@flightlesschicken7769
3 жыл бұрын
@@zoiders it's closer to 7.92 Kurz than it is to 7.62x25. That said, it's close to being right in the middle of those two In terms of muzzle energy it is on par with 5.45, but due to poor bullet design it loses energy really quick. Still a 357 mag from a pistol at 100 yards. In terms of energy Edit: added it being close the the middle part
@zoiders
3 жыл бұрын
@@borkwoof696 Its not effective at the same range as intermediate cartridges so its not an assault rifle.
@borkwoof696
3 жыл бұрын
@@zoiders says who? There is no set definition for an intermediate cartridge. Also, what constitutes "effective"? .30 carbine fits between a .30-06 and a .45 with ample distance to either. It is literally, by definition "intermediate". Whether it‘s a good or a mediocre intermediate cartridge has no effect on whether it‘s an assault rifle or not.
@69shadesofyeezeezs47
3 жыл бұрын
5:08 is actually designated as a WCFD. War Crimes Facilitating Device
@44R0Ndin
3 жыл бұрын
By that metric, so was the 1911. The US has comitted its fair share of war crimes during all wars and other conflicts it's been a part of. (including making the sun rise twice in one day on Japan, twice, during WWII).
@69shadesofyeezeezs47
3 жыл бұрын
@@44R0Ndin I'm not from the US, but if I'd have to wager, the US saved an entire population of Jews from war crimes and stopped Japan from committing even more war crimes in East. You know nothing 44R0Ndin, and that Anti-Western stuff you learned from your lesbian dance theory wont help you prove your point. jk jk :3 teehee
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
3 жыл бұрын
As far as war crimes go, the Luger would have been involved in the fewest. The Nagant and TT33 on the other hand.......
@danlomanalo4161
2 ай бұрын
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballzor the arisaka family of rifles
@buddha48264
3 жыл бұрын
This sums up the topic nicely and would love a further exploration of each type. I know info is limited, but the Knight's Armament PDW chambered in 6x35mm definitely should be included as either a Type I or Type IV PDW.
@Maelstrom8
3 жыл бұрын
This channel just keeps getting better and better! Great topics. Great presentation. Wonderful cinematography. Well done, gents!
@benvanderark8412
3 жыл бұрын
This video rocks. I feel like the M1 carbine is very ahead of it's time in this regard. It was the original type 1 PDW. Very important when you consider how many troops are serving in a non Frontline infantry role.
@Mr.Ut21
3 жыл бұрын
'What weapons do you think are PDWs' South Korea: *America*
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
OOF
@rvail136
2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 ps90s. 1 with 10" barrel with a permanently afixed 6" suppressor, thus making it legally NOT an SBR, ant not requiring a fed tax stamp and the other is a 16" barrel that fires Lazer like accurate to 100 meters. Absolutely love both.
@baylorhenry
3 жыл бұрын
Newsletter early release gang: WE RISE!
@benfrank1583
3 жыл бұрын
Last. If you ain't cheating you ain't trying
@Cal94
3 жыл бұрын
ian's the biggest goofball when you drop him on a range 🤣
@RonOhio
3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing these covered in more depth.
@someonequiet3365
3 жыл бұрын
Tackling the tricky questions with a well produced, well organized video. Got to love it
@normanmccollum6082
3 жыл бұрын
Love the M1 Carbine, and yeah it was most definitely a compact and lightweight carbine for its day in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. As far as PDW's go though, yeah the M1 Carbine seems to be the OG, but it seems outclassed in most every respect. CERTAINLY for size, given it has an 18" barrel, even a folded-up M1A1 Carbine is probably bulky compared to just about all other options mentioned in the vid. Something it might dominate in is distance, given the long-radius aperture sights and long barrel. It might prove to be more precise out to 200m+ compared to an MP5K, perhaps P90, and MAYBE AKs-74u although I really don't know. I'm now extremely curious as to how all these different platforms perform at longer ranges, even though the platform itself is probably meant for defensive usage at closer ranges. Also, for the 5.7 and that 4mm cartridge, these modern cartridges also aim to have AP functionality which 9mm and .30 Carbine probably lack in. Not sure if the M1 Carbine can truly be considered a PDW in today's context, especially since it's longer than an M4 Carbine with its buttstock fully extended. M1A1, on the other hand, that's a maybe but that ridiculously long barrel without any bullpup implementation makes it kind of a laughable compared to modern interpretations of PDW. Full-stock M1 Carbine doesn't seem particularly useful as a tanker firearm and I think it'd be rather long and bulky to deal with in a vehicle, at least compared to the other options. Yeah it's very lightweight, can sling it and forget it quite easily, but that bulk... that length... yes it's quite short compared to 24-31" barrels of WWII standard issue rifles but nowadays 14-20" is the status quo for standard-issue front-line assault rifles and 18" is towards the end of that spectrum. The overall length of a full-stock M1 Carbine seems to be about 4" shorter than an M16, and is even a tad longer than a typical full-sized AK. During in the mid-late 20th century, 100%, I'm down with calling it an extremely handy little compact, lightweight PDW. I'm really not surprised that it even seen a fair bit of front-line usage to my understanding even though it was meant to be for soldiers who didn't think it likely to have to use it in combat. Truckers, artillery, etc. Triple-capacity over typical bolt-actions it would face, soft recoil means quick follow-up shots, it would be outdone in close quarters compared to SMGs but out to more mid-range distances like 200-300m it would perform better than SMGs (110gr at 1990 ft/s, .30 Carbine has a 33mm case length which is the same as .357 and .44 Magnum, .30 Carbine could practically be regarded as a rimless .30 Magnum cartridge), and so on a variety of levels I think it's very well-suited as a frontline firearm in the context of WWII and Korea. By Vietnam though, with bolt-actions having largely been replaced by SMGs and assault rifles and semi-auto rifles like the SKS... its advantages start to wane. The upgrade to M2 Carbine, doubling the capacity to the half-century standard of 30 rounds and allowing for the option of full-auto (even though it's not too controllable due to the platform being so utterly lightweight), it can make it more competitive against assault rifles and SMGs. So yeah, love the M1 Carbine, M1A1 Carbine seems very cool and could potentially still be within PDW territory in spite of that stupidly long barrel, but I just have a hard time seeing the M1 Carbine being an actual PDW in the last roughly 30 years or so (which happens to be about how old the FN P90 is). It's got the lightweight aspect, but really, it ain't too much lighter than the M4 Carbine and it's also a fair bit longer. I wager that 30-round M2 Carbine magazines are also not as light as a typical 1.1lb (500g) loaded STANAG magazine, not to mention the M2/M2 Carbine itself doesn't have the greatest reputation in the world for reliability and is probably more prone to malfunctions than any PDW mentioned in the video, and also more prone to malfunctions than the aforementioned M4 or M4A1. God bless the M1 Carbine, it served so very well during the bloodiest war in human history, also in Korea, and in Vietnam. Utterly fantastic carbine that any civilian gun owner should be proud to own, and is probably the closest to a PDW that most gun owners in the world will ever be able to obtain. Here in Canada I've owned an M1 Carbine before, love it, though I think a Chinese QBZ-97 (which I'm proud to say I've handled one before but not shot one sadly) would be more of a PDW, as would be the Israeli Tavor, both bullpups. But also, both are basically 'full-sized bullpup' platforms, and probably generally not regarded as PDWs, which is why in TODAY'S climate I have a hard time maintaining the M1 Carbine's position as a PDW even though it's essentially the first or one of the first ever made. AKS-74U is probably as-good or better than the M1/M2 Carbine in every way except for weight (only SLIGHTLY heavier), with the possible exception of accuracy out to 200-300m or so. At 500m though, pretty sure the AKS-74U actually HAS a rear sight with that distance, but the M1/M2 Carbine has 300yd (270m) at best (in my experience with my own M1 Carbine), so technically speaking at that sort of half-kilometer distance the AK is probably better simply on the virtue of its rear sight being capable of going beyond 270m even though I don't have high hopes of the AKS-74U having much accuracy way out to that distance. Still, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
@JaegerTheBaker
3 жыл бұрын
7:59 I love him loading that round backwards lmao
@Ezper-2099
3 жыл бұрын
How about classifications of guns next? (AR, SMG, LMG, DMR, SR, SG etc.) I want to know what the differences of them are
@wolf_7479
3 жыл бұрын
I always like to think of PDW as a "usage term" or "usage classification", one you'd use along a proper classification, so for example the P90 and MP7 are SMGs first and PDWs in their used role. This way also allows for them to be used in other roles since the usage term ofc only applies when they're actually used as a PDW and if not the real term (i.e carbine, SMG, Machine pistol etc) applies. Great video, I love the amount of featured channels and every time someone mentions the M1 Carbine and LP08 as the OG PDWs they already got the right idea in my mind :)
@nickverbree
3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the P90 out to 500yrds video ;D
@SmallHandsBigBite
3 жыл бұрын
Really awesome collaboration guys! Just in time to help my friend choose his pdw/bag gun! I have and love my somewhat modernized VZ61 and am very confident with it but its not a platform I recommend to others for the same purpose. I have a small stature, small hands and train often on its very unique manual of arms. Amazing little gat though.
@ABCantonese
3 жыл бұрын
With SMGs, depending on the design, I feel that often they are PDWs already. Heck, besides urban SWAT and PDW roles, where else would you use SMGs? You look at the micro Uzi, they ADDED to the gun just so you have a left hand later. A modern, lightened Uzi replacement with delay blowback and shooting say, 7.5 FK and 9mm or 10mm, would be a great PDW.
@classifiedad1
3 жыл бұрын
It should be noted that the Micro-Uzi was a development of the Uzi pistol, hence why it is a closed-bolt submachine gun unlike the rest of the Uzi SMGs. All they did was add a folding stock and the fun switch to turn the Uzi pistol into the Micro-Uzi.
@DiggingForFacts
3 жыл бұрын
@@classifiedad1 Yup, the micro-Uzi ironically has to be understood as a Glock 18 or a Beretta 93r, rather than a micro-Uzi.
@jacobackley502
3 жыл бұрын
With modern SMGs, I'd agree. Historically, SMGs are of similar size and weight to their accompanied service rifles. Thompsons, PPSHs, M38s, and the MP40 (to a lesser extent) were not particularly light or small. Even the original Uzi with its wood stock was a beastly chunk of a gun. Modern designs have gotten away from these full weight pistol caliber SMGs, but personally I find that they may have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Shooting an original full sized Uzi next to an MP5 really opened my eyes to how nice those heavier guns were. I could very easily keep long bursts on target with the Uzi, but struggled beyond extremely close range (within 15m) with the MP5.
@ABCantonese
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobackley502 OK, now you're just showing off... I guess I'm not surprised? Is a 9mm cartridge any lighter than 556? How is MP5 compared to other modern SMGs?
@jacobackley502
3 жыл бұрын
@@ABCantonese the only full auto 5.56 rifle I've fired (I don't count the full sized machine guns I've fired in the Navy, they recoiled about the same as a sewing machine) was actually very unpleasant. The cyclic rate was way too fast, the rifle was overgased to hell, and the muzzle flash was too bright for the indoor range I shot it at. That gun was a registered pre-86 m16 lower with a 12 inch barrel upper and a red dot that wasn't zeroed in the slightest. Now having said all my excuses, it's very easy to see how with a little tweaking it could be great. An adjustable gas block, heavier buffer, and a compact suppressor all would have taken the edge off. Those would add maintenance though, since lowering the gas intake would give the bolt opening less authority making the gun sluggish when it gets dirty. Since it was a rental gun, I'm sure they set it up for maximum reliability, because boy did that thing get dirty. For a PDW sized gun, I'd avoid 5.56. It works great in 14" barrels and up, but the tiny PDW barrels just have insane concussion that really need suppressors which kind of negate any length advantage of the short barrel. 9mm is less intense, doesn't lose or gain much with different barrel lengths, doesn't have excessive flash or recoil, and is just an all around mediocre option (not in a bad way). The MP5 ironically is more advance than many 'modern' 9mm sub guns. It uses a roller delayed blowback, which helps tame the recoil somewhat. It's HK replacement, the UMP series, uses a direct blowback. Same as the Uzi. Direct blowback is more violent, so for an equivalent weight gun and bolt has more recoil. The big ole sub guns from WW2 and such mitigate this by sheer weight and size. Modern subguns do neither in many cases. Being direct blowback and lightweight, they are really unpleasant. Good ones uses locking mechanisms that reduce recoil, sometimes in very clever ways. The KRISS vector bolt actually cycles rearward and downward, changing the recoil impulse dramatically. That's how it can have such a fast cyclic rate and not spray rounds into the ceiling. Compared to that, the MP5 is definitely inferior. I hope my rambling helps in some way. Subguns are fun, definitely try them out if you can find a range that has some.
@DBxSnowman
2 жыл бұрын
The M3 Grease Gun comes to mind. It fits the profile of a type 2-3 and was issued to the same non-combat roles in WW2.
@ej_22
2 жыл бұрын
to me , the me grease is a type 3.
@christopher2215
3 жыл бұрын
Love your content, thanks!
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@JusticeFreedomDestin
2 жыл бұрын
The style of this video feels like a classic Discovery / History channel video. Very informative, lots of good examples and credited footage from reliable sources
@FirepowerUnited
3 жыл бұрын
Anything is a PDW if you’re brave enough… wait
@LouisianaAstroRambler
3 жыл бұрын
I like how y'all put every creator of every clip y'all used, into the video at the end there, well done video boys, well done 👏 👏 👏.
@brandonalmeida5493
3 жыл бұрын
As a USACE employee in memphis we are briefed annually about threat of new Madrid earthquake. They know it will happen and be 6.0 or bigger. Corps helped memphis do an assignment and found most of the infrastructure in memphis, including our own assets, will be taken out at 6.0. So we are told to maintain a pack because the highways will be taken out. If I had to hike home I'd be crossing 3rd street, south memphis, east memphis, well known trouble spots. All I'll say is I made sure I know what a pdw is...
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
My man with all the portuguese kit in the world. Hope you are well!
@axelcaceres8853
3 жыл бұрын
Please make one for each and every main weapon category a.k.a "Battle Rifles" "Assault Rifles" "Pistols" etc. Great video as usual!
@ajttambo
3 жыл бұрын
Short barreled AKs make great PDWs if you are going to spend a lot of time one a vehicle. Especially if the AK is in 7.62x39 which loses very little muzzle velocity from having a shortened barrel unlike 5.45 or 5.56.
@v12ts.gaming
Жыл бұрын
AKMSU and ACE 31 would be a good example...
@Odd_Interaction
3 жыл бұрын
Way back in the 70’s and late 80’s the M3 Grease gun was the PDW for Armor crewmen (19E) and Tank Recovery crewmen. Sidearm was some type of 1911 pistol. The Grease gun could be partially disassembled and stored in a briefcase.
@Arkeo36
3 жыл бұрын
Something like a Kel-Tec RDB in the 'survival' configuration is probably a good candidate for a 5.56 pdw.
@dmk0210
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this same thing. In its 16" barrel Survival variant, it is very slim, light and about the same length as a Mk18 10.3" AR15 (probably about the same as an AK74SU as well). In fact, the RDB Survival variant was designed by Kel-tec to be a civilian PDW. Folks say bullpups are not PDWs, but the P90 is a bullpup.
@Arkeo36
2 жыл бұрын
@@dmk0210 The RDB survival kind of makes the P90 as well as "pistol" ARs irrelevant from a practical standpoint except where local laws prohibit carrying rifles but do allow pistols.
@ExtremeUnction1988
3 жыл бұрын
I love how you worked in those other channels. I'm a fan of all of them!!!
@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127
3 жыл бұрын
My definition of a PDW is watching John Wick knock 20 dudes in armor with a SIG MPX.
@trentreid210
3 жыл бұрын
The grease gun was a good one and a full size Uzi with a short barrel fit as well. Loved this video, you guys knocked it out of the park again, there are a lot of people that needed a clear definition and distinction on this subject and you did it perfectly!
@jrstoelting
3 жыл бұрын
I understand you comment as the Tavor not being a PDW, but as a compact weapon able to used in a small space, it works well when not wanting to try to NFA a SBR. Also, I loved seeing the video from all the other great KZitem channels I watch. You guys are a great community that I love watching for a wealth of information and great entertainment.
@andik.4235
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice vid and also a very well thought out classification for PDW. I only have shot a B&T USW, a short 9 mm blow back AR 15, a MP 7 and a MP5. The USW is not so easy to shoot with the stock extended, because you have no real good space to put your second hand and the dropping stock let the pistol climb significantly at each shot. A 9 mm blow back AR 15 is big, has nearly as much recoil as a 5.56 version and shoots only 9 mm. It is cost saving but no PDW option in my book. Technically the MP 7 is a miniaturized AR, but the bolt release is tricky and I`m not sure about the cartrige. Recoil and climbing is minmal, but it didn`t make my pants wet. That brings me neatly along to a neat weapon: The MP 5. Compact, handling like a rifle, low and easy controlable recoil, decent trigger. I liked it way more as the MP 7, but have also to admit, that I have no experince with full auto at all the guns mentioned above. With my fairly limited experience I would say that HK made with the MP 5 a very decent PDW.
@chiishikawa6419
3 жыл бұрын
74u + rpk mag :)
@Kar4ever3
3 жыл бұрын
I class my MG3 as a PDW. I'm not saying it's light or nimble. I just have a very huge personal space need.
@sinisterthoughts2896
3 жыл бұрын
the M1 Carbine is definitely a PDW, given it was designed to meet the same roll, and was to be used in leu of and classified as a sidearm, for troops who had specialized rolls that a rifle would interfere with. it fires a proprietary supped up pistol round, and was designed to be no more than 5 pounds. if someone wants to complain about the length, it also came with a folding stock. Claiming it isn't a PDW because its a little big is just silly, considering if nothing else, there is no "must be so tall" measurement to be a PDW. Fantastic video as always, and I always appreciate a well put together presentation.
@zoiders
3 жыл бұрын
The M1 Carbine screams out to be modernised to handle the 5.7 round.
@TheKlickitat
3 жыл бұрын
There was a conversion made in the 5.7 Johnson. The 5.7 Johnson was a 30 carbine necked down if I remember right. There was also .256 Win Mag that was a necked down .357 mag.
@makevelicustoms
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheKlickitat it was also made in 45 Magnum by a Israeli Company.
@zoiders
3 жыл бұрын
@digduck2020 Sucky magazines and feed problems.
@zoiders
3 жыл бұрын
@@makevelicustoms A .45 calibre round of that size would have a case head like a 7.62 NATO. Its not going to fit. The .30 Carbine is straight wall and rather dinky.
@44R0Ndin
3 жыл бұрын
@Scaucy man 2.0 You're using that word "bubba" not quite right, but not entirely wrong either. My definition of what it means to "Bubba" a gun is this: 1. To modify a non-historically significant firearm from its original issued state in what would be considered a crude, shoddy, or unpolished manner. Basically, the way Ian's "cursed AK" was put back together after being de-milled before Ian got it, was "done by Bubba", because the execution of the thing was just entirely unsatisfactory. 2. To modify a historically-significant firearm in a manner that does not bring it closer to the form it was in during the period of history it was significant in. To qualify for type 2 Bubba, the gun has to be historically significant, and they made millions of M1 carbines. So any one particular M1 carbine (barring the R&D and production prototypes) is up for any kind of modification you like, so long as it's done to a high standard (therefore avoiding type 1 bubba).
@abenickerson7470
2 жыл бұрын
As a left handed shooter I appreciate the P90(most FN Herstahl products actually). It is fully ambidextrous and I love the way spent brass is ejected down through the ejection port. No brass crossing my sight line or worse (on rare occasions)coming back in my face. It is also easy to police spent casings at the range with a brass catching bag that hangs naturally below the weapon and out of the way.
@DerekJones1081962
Ай бұрын
I built and own clearly a type 4 PDW AR in 5.56 NATO. It was built on a whim before the scares and bans. But I now believe that it's possibly the best home defense weapon ever developed, especially if I had chambered it in .300 blackout. I leave it alone because of ammo cost and availability. It's very good for CQB duty inside the home. When used with a brace as designed, it's controllable on a single arm. Leaving my other hand free to open doors, yet two-handed operation, is available for accurate round placement. Truly, this weapon type should never have been disparaged. And, a greater variety of factory hollow point ammunition would be greatly appreciated. It's sad that the virtues of this weapon weren't communicated prior to attempting bans.
@julianw.978
3 жыл бұрын
hell yeah looking forward to watching it
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
#newslettergang :)
@jameslyddall
3 жыл бұрын
@@9HoleReviews just come across your channel and loving the content. To the team behind this channel that edits and makes these thank you so much. Honestly superb content and greetings from London UK
@therogueflieger
3 жыл бұрын
I love you guys. Recently found the channel and have watched most of it. Keep it up! Wonderful work.
@prfwrx2497
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! For something similar to a Skorpion PDW, look no further than the OTs 2 Kiparis. Same concept but 9x18. Oddly enough, designed in the 70s but marketed only after the iron curtain fell, hence why the Skorpion became a lot more notorious.
@garrythomson6006
3 жыл бұрын
That was so informative and entertaining guys. Thanks you so much!
@eatsshootsandleavestactica8068
3 жыл бұрын
On the topic of hard to classify firearms, I was actually discussing this with a friend earlier today, as to how to classify/apply a 5"-8" barreled 5.56x45mm AR15 pistol or SBR. You definitely touched on it pretty well in the video, but if we wanted to consider it even further, it might be an interesting discussion. . On the surface they fit squarely into the type 4 category, and they certainly share the drawbacks of concussion and flash, but additionally they seem to share the ballistic characteristics closer to the type 1 PDWs, if I'm not mistaken, putting them more in the category or bridging the gap between pistol and carbine, than fully in the role of a miniaturized carbine.
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
it'd be like the AKs74u, but with worse flash and worse concussion and less reliability.
@borkwoof696
3 жыл бұрын
I will point out that "regular" sub guns also fit the definition of a pdw outlined at the beginning of your video. They are generally (at least after ww2) compact, easy to carry weapons that offer more firepower and range than a pistol but less than a rifle and are often issued to rear echelon troups. Also, the terms "assault rifle", "submachine gun" and "pdw" are not - as outlined in your video - mutually exclusive. Two terms are defined based off their technical merits while the latter is purely application based.
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
yes, the lines blur a little and admittedly that's what makes the Kriss Vector kind of not a PDW is the weight and size. The other micro SMG's are able to really get packed off into tiny concealable packages. Any larger any you'd be contending with a Type IV rifle based PDW.
@11bbasterd
Жыл бұрын
Broooo that video you put in with the combat Medic. The guy that got blown up is Sgt Ryan Thomas me and him were at Fort Hood together forever after he left 173rd. Great dude.
@9HoleReviews
Жыл бұрын
How is he now? did he make it? hope he did.
@lowspeedhighdrag
3 жыл бұрын
I have something in that niche, or that fills that niche anyway. A Kel-Tec Sub 2000 in 9mm. As a small town police chief, I’m frequently called in or stopping by in plainclothes to accomplish some task or another. Do payroll, assist an on duty officer, or one of the plague like errands or repairs that torment my existence. The Sub 2000 rides discreetly in its padded case, and only requires unfolding and chambering a round to be gtg. Doesn’t have either the close up power of my duty carried shotgun, or the range of my patrol rifle, but it’s much more effective than the compact 9mm pistol I carry off duty. Extra mags slip neatly into the elastic loops inside one pocket in the eBay special external plate carrier riding in the back of my car which helps both with ballistic protection and identification to citizens, responding officers, and suspects alike. Not sure which of your classes, if any, the Sub 2000 fits, but that’s what fills it for me.
@eatsshootsandleavestactica8068
3 жыл бұрын
Such a well made video that answers/ organizes the many long-debated facts about PDWs that my friends and I have been arguing over since we were preteens playing airsoft in our parents' backyards. Thanks for contributing to the discussion in such a useful way!
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
:) thanks for the note! these are the amalgamation of our very same arguments over beers
@tiggalong227
2 жыл бұрын
An interesting example of a type 4 PDW would be the British L22 as its parent weapon the L85 (SA80) is already quite short
@pongpolrojananon407
3 жыл бұрын
What about riot, combat, tactical, and hunting shotgun? would love to see this content too. Keep up a good work.
@leekaijit36
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for introduction us what's a PDW, the concept and what's her pro and cons.
@marksides9757
3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I can agree with the classifications. I need all of these in my "library". My only issue is that I'm not out there helping them put rounds downrange. lol
@comiketiger
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I enjoyed seeing the run down of so many types. God bless all here.
@LDR1100RS
3 жыл бұрын
Guys...another home run. You've done a great job with 9-Hole Reviews!
@Redbird1504
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. The type IV is the most difficult to classify in my mind.
@theirishman6728
3 жыл бұрын
My personal preferred PDW is a 5.5" 300blk with folding adapter. 24" when unfolded, and a mere 17" when folded, allows it to fit in the most unassuming of small bags. 300blk does suffer some velocity & energy loss from a 5.5" barrel, but when compared against pistol caliber PDWs of same size, the 300blk can achieve up to 3X the energy ft lbs that a pistol caliber can while running supers. And running subs will still achieve like energy to a pistol caliber that is still very quiet when suppressed.
@williamflowers9435
2 жыл бұрын
If the Honey Badger is included, would you also include the LVAW(Low Vis Assault Weapon)? Not the most compact but has a 6.75” barrel and seen being used by Tier 1 units in the PSD role.
@smoketatum6730
3 жыл бұрын
One interesting PDW is missing, one from cold war era like Scorpion (with similiar firarate delay system), its polish PM63 "RAK".
@9HoleReviews
3 жыл бұрын
Those things area easily one of the coolest firearms out there too!
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