A few years back, I had some major work done and I mentioned your name to the young fellas on the job. They went on about how great your content is and how much they have to fight the old timers about switching to modern solutions rather than sticking with whatever they learned 20 years ago. You seem to have far reaching influence on the industry. Thank you for the effort.
@Swimmingpoolsteve
2 ай бұрын
That is really cool! It blows my mind how far the reach of this channel goes
@theFlesrouy
2 ай бұрын
I watched all those videos about street elbows and efficiency loss. I'm in the process now of building a pool with 3" lines. Thanks for the good content.
@theFlesrouy
2 ай бұрын
Oh man.. And talk about hard to find 3" long sweep elbows. Not for the faint of heart.
@Swimmingpoolsteve
2 ай бұрын
@theFlesrouy probably used short radius 90s. If the system is sized properly you can do that and still have vastly .more efficient flow than a smaller system using only sweeps. 65 gpm versus 138 gpm for max efficient flow range from 2" to 3" pipe size. So more room for friction losses in the turns while still maintaining a higher overall system capacity and efficiency
@theFlesrouy
2 ай бұрын
@@Swimmingpoolsteve Considering my pool has been "building" for two years, it's currently operating at 0% efficiency. I wish efficiency losses were my actual problem.
@AlessioSangalli
2 ай бұрын
3in diameter 12in, 24in and 36in sweep radius are available at any Home Depot. Don’t costs that much either. They are in the electrical section and are gray in colour.
@mknmike
2 ай бұрын
@@AlessioSangalli How do those hold up to Chlorine? I assume the gray stuff holds up better to sunlight. How about pressure too?
@generessler6282
2 ай бұрын
I'm thinking your excellent material on using VSP at low revs 24x7 often defeats the case for 2.5" plumbing on residential pools. With 2" plumbing, my schedule is 1100 rpm, moving 38 gpm at 100 watts. SWG is very happy with this. Can't hear the pump at more than 6' distance. With a couple of hours daily at 2200 rpm to skim and clean this is filtering 60+ kgal, over 3x the pool volume. It doesn't seem 2.5" plumbing would have been worth the extra cost. The bottleneck on my pad is definitely the heater. Adding a bypass has been super helpful for efficiency.
@adamhaut6859
2 ай бұрын
I insisted on only sweeps for turns and went with 2"pipe. I also oversized my salt cell and filter. Have a Hayward VSP and my pool runs like a dream. Only thing I'd change is going with more smaller lights than one big light. Appreciate all your knowledge.
@user-xx1mf7uv6n
2 ай бұрын
Since the flow of a 2.5 short radius 90 has better flow than a 2” sweep radius 90 then could you go with 2” plumbing and 2.5” short radius 90s with reducers to 2”. Better yet 3” with 2” reducers Btw my sweep 90s shipment arrived today. Where were you last week with this video? lol
@matts.9330
2 ай бұрын
Not all street elbows are a sharp 90. In fact, the long sweep 90 you show here is also actually a street 90. Street just means one end is the same outside diameter as pipe.
@Kidam101
2 ай бұрын
with all the gear being 1.5 or 2 inch does it really help, not even mentionning the piping underground
@Swimmingpoolsteve
2 ай бұрын
If you have multiple 2" suction lines, as many pools do, then there would be more advantage to upgrading your equipment pad installation to 2.5" than swapping all of your 2" ells for 2" sweep elbows. Most modern equipment takes 2" and 2.5" pipe natively. If not, use a coupling with a reducer bushing in one side as needed to mate to the equipment sizing.
@ottocrg
2 ай бұрын
Hey Steve, thx for the video. I’m thinking most pool equipment is made for up to 2” pipes. Wouldn’t all the 2.5” pipe benefits be eliminated with the need to use reduction fittings?
@Swimmingpoolsteve
2 ай бұрын
It would not. It does not limit the whole system, just a momentary efficiency loss at the reduction. Most modern pool equipment comes with 2" and 2.5" port sizes. There is a lot to consider and each pool is unique but in general if seeking more efficiency larger pipes is usually more effective than upgrading short radius 90s to sweep 90s
@Paul-jp8zz
2 ай бұрын
oh man I knew it was gonna be a 2" upgrade!
@mknmike
2 ай бұрын
Above ground pools? Yes. No problem. In-ground: Pressure lines, no problem. In-ground SUCTION lines? I’m going to guess priming 2” or larger might start to become a problem unless you oversize your pump at which point you start losing efficiency. Where’s the suction line balance? AND enlarging and reducing can create more effective length than just using the same size pipe. Might have to bust out my chemical engineering (aka plumbing) book on transport phenomena. 😊
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