I came from a post I've found on Facebook on the Arizona jaguars, and I wanted to say that at 8-ish or so years old, on a car ride to my parents(foster care), I've witnessed a heavy set SOLID black bigcat strolling through the desert toward the road. Between Maricopa to Coolidge was our route. It was such a long time ago and it was only a glimpse, I KNOW what I saw. A Melanistic Jaguar. Had the blocky head shape and it glistened in the sun, and walked so effortlessly, healthy looking too
@S.Trades
7 ай бұрын
Very obviously and clearly a panther. 🤦♂️
@jinx6573
7 ай бұрын
@@S.Trades 'Panther' is used for mountain lions, jaguars, leopards, and such. Panther comes from the scientific word 'panthera' and is in every feline species.
@deanfirnatine7814
3 ай бұрын
Black is a dominant genetic trait in Jaguars so if you get one male that is black in a region who then breeds with several females whose territories his overlaps then you end up with a lot of black cubs.
@charlessmith4242
2 ай бұрын
@@deanfirnatine7814 * If black is the dominant genetic trait, then all Jaguars would be black. As I recall, there's only one place in South America where black Jaguars are found in the wild.
@Blackpill149
17 күн бұрын
@@jinx6573cougars are not panthers. Panthers are able to roar ans growl like leopards and lion, tigers
@TheMidnightBeest
10 ай бұрын
I’m just thankful that they are deciding not to hunt it and harm it
@SharelleCountz
10 ай бұрын
Yeah just leave them alone
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
10 ай бұрын
Like the jaguar shark being hunted by Steve Zissou and his team.
@MaryWhite-ne3mj
10 ай бұрын
I saw the same animal crawling on rocks along Highway 89 traveling on a tour around Bryce-very agile climbing the rocks -definitely a large black jaguar like animal, very muscular.
@jannisares
10 ай бұрын
Or I should say prospective range. Beautiful kitty.
@Skank_and_Gutterboy
10 ай бұрын
Looking at how it moves, I'd swear it's a cat of some kind.
@SandyTenney
9 ай бұрын
Jagurundi?????
@deanfirnatine7814
8 ай бұрын
@@SandyTenney Too big
@ElaineRowton-bg5bh
8 ай бұрын
Amy Lee road 10 and just the other night about two nights ago I seen a weird same looking creature in my backyard where I live and it may have killed my dog I don't know how my dog was torn up pretty badly and he's a pretty big dog but whatever this was it by why
@TheRetroGuy2000
10 ай бұрын
It's almost certainly a melanistic jaguar. Jaguars have been seen all over southern Arizona, within 100 miles of where this animal was spotted. It's just traveled a bit northwest of where other jaguars have been found.
@ryanbrazeal8901
10 ай бұрын
Yea but you dont know
@matthewfors114
10 ай бұрын
why couldnt it be a melanistic puma/panther/mountain lion? im just wondering? is it the ears or something? the footage seems to grainy to say it isnt a mountain lion
@TheRetroGuy2000
10 ай бұрын
@@matthewfors114 no melanistic cougar has ever been documented.
@llamabot9889
9 ай бұрын
@@ryanbrazeal8901what does it look like to you? What on this planet else would it be? Do you have eyeballs working properly? Did we all watch the same video? It's a dark big cat and mountain lions can certainly look that way. NOTHING LIKE HUMANS BURIED IN THEIR PHONE IN THEIR SAFE HOMES TELLING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE WOODS WHAT ANIMALS ARE.
@deanfirnatine7814
8 ай бұрын
Exactly
@smplfi9859
10 ай бұрын
It's definitely a jaguar. Not sure why 12news would write that off. They've been sighted in Arizona. Jim DeVos didn't say it's not a jaguar, the 'journalist' did. Don't put words in his mouth 'It's not a jaguar, mountain lion, bobcat or house cat, according to the Jim DeVos with the Arizona Game and Fish Department.' It's simple things like this let the world know how disingenious and manipulative you news people really are. It doesn't take a genius to know the wild animals are alive in well in Arizona, it takes stepping into genuine desert. I have seen elk in the valley before and many don't believe simple things like that, this is the most verdant and lush desert in the world. The animals have plenty of options and we should let them be as they once were.
@ShastaBean
10 ай бұрын
12 news: It's not a great white or a hammerhead...but it might be a tiger shark. Let's ask the expert....
@runfargetlost991
10 ай бұрын
if its a jaguar its not a wild one, there has been no jaguar sightings in phoenix az. this is not a wild jaguar just living in the city
@mattbrown837
8 ай бұрын
Historic range. Why not?
@jonmacdonald5345
10 ай бұрын
Seen one in southern California about 25 years ago!!!!
@ReneeNme
10 ай бұрын
I bet it's a melanistic Jaguar that somehow escaped captivity
@abril417
10 ай бұрын
Probably a jaguar.
@ronwade5646
10 ай бұрын
Indigenous to this desert, the black Jaguar
@xAxCx
10 ай бұрын
You're not from here are you? Jaguar sightings are on the Mexican border. They're not seen in Phoenix which is about 200 miles north.
@RoseNZieg
5 ай бұрын
there had been unconfirmed sightings for decades if not centuries. I think there may be some truth to the claims.
@KingSally92
4 ай бұрын
@@xAxCxim not from out there but I know there’s Jaguars are in the Tonto National Forest. They are in AZ.
@xAxCx
4 ай бұрын
@@KingSally92 You're not from here but yet you "know". There are no jaguars in the Tanto National Forest. BTW I live less than a mile away from Tonto's Sonoran region and since I've lived here 28 years I actually know what I'm talking about unlike you.
@swerne01
26 күн бұрын
@@xAxCx Just because "they're not seen in Phoenix" doesn't guarantee that it can't happen. There's a first time foe everything. I think this explanation is possible. What's your hypothesis?
@paulw2872
10 ай бұрын
That fly
@billrebsamen1810
6 ай бұрын
I didn't hear a word that poor man said!
@larissamatthews9817
10 ай бұрын
It looks like a black jaguar or panther. The size, tail and way it moves.
@ShastaBean
10 ай бұрын
close encounter and aggressive behavior with a human would be that fly at 1:44 - and constantly getting into trouble at 1:57
@Himchamberlain
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@BeenDelivered
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@helen_124_user
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂⭐
@cathyburrows8162
8 ай бұрын
Now that all I can see is that fly right by that man's mouth, awaiting to fly right in.😱😂😝
@ShastaBean
8 ай бұрын
@@cathyburrows8162 🪰👄🤑
@jwwj30
10 ай бұрын
Live & let live. She’s just trying to survive like the rest of us.
@southwesthardypalms
10 ай бұрын
Definitely a Jaguar, they should have asked someone else about this. This guy didn’t seem to have any knowledge of jaguars or what they look like. Jaguars absolutely have ranged - and most likely still do on occasion up to Phoenix. That’s an incredible find.
@runfargetlost991
10 ай бұрын
theres no jaguars moving towards phoenix
@1445Juan
10 ай бұрын
How can you be so sure? You never know
@arthur-qm8qs
10 ай бұрын
Actually there's already been spottings of jaguars in southern Arizona and that was a couple years ago sooo... Yes absofukinlutely it can and probably is a jaguar 🐆
@Quadratic4mula
10 ай бұрын
The experts remain doubtful that those animals travel all that way unassisted. They believe it was forcibly brought nearby then intentionally released or it escaped.
@ricodelavega4511
9 ай бұрын
maybe he didnt want people going to search for it if he mentioned black jag. If i lived there, I'd definately go looking for it, but if turned out to be an african panther hell no would i ever go on a trail in that area.
@danstrayer111
10 ай бұрын
Five days from now: "The mystery creature which went viral on social media was a rare all-black cougar. It apparently died from fear and stress when over 10,000 people came out to see if they could find it".
@runfargetlost991
10 ай бұрын
nah
@Mac-ix4qp
10 ай бұрын
Someone had a blank panther at one time or another.
@SampsonRoofing
10 ай бұрын
What a nice cat 😮😮😮
@myrrhavm
10 ай бұрын
Can easily go and measure the rocks where it was at and determine size. Nice to see Fish and Game ha no plans on hunting it down and killing it as they would in California.
@arthurbrumagem3844
10 ай бұрын
My thoughts as well. It seems wild animals have no right to exist near humans.
@myrrhavm
10 ай бұрын
@@arthurbrumagem3844 Yup. Even if it were an exotic animal. Just let it live. Hell, half the plant life here in the states is not native yet they sell them at stores. Should be penalties.
@arthurbrumagem3844
10 ай бұрын
@@myrrhavm I don’t think some types should be legal - pythons were a great example. But if a Jaguar etc comes up from Mexico or so on its own I’m ok with that as at one time they were in the SW
@myrrhavm
10 ай бұрын
@@arthurbrumagem3844 I get it. Some are invasive, some are anomalies. That’s if that’s the right word.
@jimyeats
10 ай бұрын
It seems like the most logical conclusion would be that it’s a melanistic Jaguar, since it A: looks like it, B: lack of other plausible options, and C: it looks like it. There has never been a case of a melanistic mountain lion (black coloration). It sure isn’t a bear. It’s not a house-cat. It’s not an ocelot. But hey, maybe it isn’t. Maybe it’s just one of those other lion sized black cats that we have in mid to southern Arizona.
@shanezen5194
10 ай бұрын
Possibly a jaguarundi...otherwise yeah a Jaguar
@jimyeats
10 ай бұрын
@@shanezen5194 Maybe, but they’re smaller. That was a pretty big cat.
@MrPanetela
10 ай бұрын
for those people making silly comments look at the tail, it is clearly feline; it is also big! Big enough to take a teenager or small man down. So don't go hiking, jogging, or bicycling in that area if you are smart. Once they get hungry enough people as friends goes out the door and into the kitchen menu.
@AliciaDasta
10 ай бұрын
That's what I think to it's too big to be a black jaguarundi... but you never know?
@AliciaDasta
10 ай бұрын
@shanezen5194 ha ! Thank you that's what I said it's a black one and a big one at that
@shanezen5194
10 ай бұрын
Jaguarundi? Supposedly extinct in Arizona but several sightings per year
@jefferymccormick3380
4 ай бұрын
Looks too big for a jaguarundi
@Goldenraptor_
8 ай бұрын
I believe it is a melanistic or dark colour morph of a jaguarundi. Jaguarundis are slimmer and thinner built, but when they crouch closer to the ground, they match the shape and also look to be about the same size. So i do think it is a jaguarundi
@ace.45-g8e
2 ай бұрын
Why are they calling it small? That cat looks huge.
@abbayhvhreigns7iloveyeshua650
10 ай бұрын
An Exotic Pet Escaped or Exotic Cat from Zoo??? Very Interesting indeed does it have a chip or needs to be chipped & monitored / tracked by Game and Wildlife Thanks for Sharing 😊👍
@joshuatodd2319
10 ай бұрын
That is definitely a jaguar.
@NotYoung3592
10 ай бұрын
These videos are ALWAYS blurry.....I think it's an all black jaguar.
@ShastaBean
10 ай бұрын
I had a Motorola phone that took very decent footage. Cracked the face so I bought a new Motorola and it takes video that looks like this trash. Amazingly, companies are capable of making tech get worse. Super annoying. But hey, at least I quadrupled my odds of seeing a sasquatch or little green men. So I have that going for me.
@pilbomags488
10 ай бұрын
I was more interested in why the camera makes such a sound when zooming in and out.
@Lazar532
10 ай бұрын
If it was a pet, it will just come and ask humans for help.
@paulaschultze6197
10 ай бұрын
Looks like a black panther or Jaguar.
@smackfpv
10 ай бұрын
the fly....
@SkodenMOC
3 ай бұрын
What if the football team was called the Arizona Jaguars and that was our mascot 😮
@RagnarRobledo
10 ай бұрын
Are they the experts ?? Man looks like he has never step foot outside his backyard , let alone him being and expert in wildlife😂
@Arizona_rider
10 ай бұрын
It’s a bengal tiger! GO BENGAL’S
@DrAnderson1
10 ай бұрын
It’s rare, but bobcats can be melanistic and we have bobcats in abundance. We also have a big cat species known as the “ jaguarundi” which can also be melanistic. We have a large population of mountain lions too, though no black mountain lions have been found & probably never will
@twasbrillig33
10 ай бұрын
This had a long tail, not a bobcat
@jacktrout5807
8 ай бұрын
@@twasbrillig33bingo
@stevehughes5403
10 ай бұрын
I did a internet search for Melanistic Jaguar. Over the last few years there have been several reported roaming around in Arizona. Images posted of the Big Cat look like the one in this video
@K2S66
10 ай бұрын
I see they used the Bigfoot lens.
@twasbrillig33
10 ай бұрын
Is there such a thing as a melanistic Ocelot?
@jkpalmdaleca
10 ай бұрын
Looks like a Jaguar.
@girthbrooks8606
10 ай бұрын
Wakanda Forever
@user-tb2jy9lu3d
10 ай бұрын
That's most certainly a Jaguar...and one that you do not want to come across while hiking.
@kimb8773
5 ай бұрын
It's probably a fisher cat. Whenever I see them I have to look twice. They can live anywhere
@deanfirnatine7814
8 ай бұрын
Black Jaguar simple. There are at least three known Jaguars in Southern Arizona, it is not like the Phoenix area is that far from SE Arizona, look at the range of a cougar for how far big cats travel. The historic range of the Jaguar went well North of Phoenix, Occams razor man.
@Los-pf3bi
10 ай бұрын
It's a snow leopard.
@Meant2BVegans
10 ай бұрын
Its moving just like a house cat though. Hes hanging out by the houses because he doesnt belong in the wild. Someone cruel abandoned it out there - for the world to deal with. Cool people do that🙄 Maybe they cross-bred it
@delta-theoryarizona4256
10 ай бұрын
Thats a black panther, baby
@YaYaPaBla
8 ай бұрын
Melanistic jaguar
@andresflores9235
10 ай бұрын
Too small to be a Jaguar?? I believe it can be an Onza , very rare!
@Bigfacts1117
10 ай бұрын
What is a onza? I thought that was a myth
@Abby-yc7tt
8 ай бұрын
You couldn't do a second take so the guy doesn't have a fly crawling all over his face?
@poweruparies007
2 ай бұрын
It is a black jaguar in the 1930s the Arizona jaguars (Panthera once Arizonensis)were a Subspecies hunted to extinction by colonial settlers so it would be possible that the jaguar survived and there are such things as black jaguars in the Amazon
@kemolowlow
10 ай бұрын
Not the first....they make their way up from South America .
@WesleyBegay-f9c
10 ай бұрын
It's a black Cheeto
@howardpratt1946
10 ай бұрын
That's my long lost pet cat spot
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
10 ай бұрын
It's clearly not a squirrel or a rabbit. Not a chipmunk. Probably not a gerbil or giraffe. A moose is right out. Not a rhino or a bat. Damn it. I give up.
@mikeadamson3885
5 ай бұрын
Definately a panther. We have them here in Illinois (theyve been seen on trail cams), so why not in the mountains of Arizona? Gramps is living in the 1800's still. What does he know really?!!
@swerne01
26 күн бұрын
Have there been additional sightings of this animal since the video was made?
@celestehilmi534
10 ай бұрын
Fisher cat.
@jms6605
7 ай бұрын
They should’ve gone to same spot to get perspective of the size, could’ve settled some of the questions.
@iamtoothewalrus
10 ай бұрын
Bigfoot's pet got loose, I fell sad for Bigfoot.
@elvenking62
10 ай бұрын
It’s a freaking black jaguar cmon
@patricianelson8
8 ай бұрын
Once upon a time AZ had camels. A military experiment that was abandoned along with the camels set loose to fend for themselves near camp verde and Quartzite. Now that would be a story if any of them survived.
@ElaineRowton-bg5bh
8 ай бұрын
But what they didn't tell you is that some of us have human skin now and the well-preserved experiment we were let loose to find our own human skin
@chrispontello9949
10 ай бұрын
Mountain lions, cougars, jaguars, leopards and panthers are nearly identical except for fur color and spotting.
@Goldenraptor_
8 ай бұрын
No they are not, you can clearly tell the difference from their size, body shape and body proprtions.
@S.Trades
7 ай бұрын
And different body shape.
@4202cvinc
10 ай бұрын
The person filming this anomaly needs to show G&F exactly where this cat like creature was filmed from. G&F will map the distance and terrain to get an idea of the perspective. Plant heights, rock sizes etc. Without those crucial measurements, identification will remain a guess.
@lindastevens822
10 ай бұрын
Melanistic mountain lion
@The5Venomz
10 ай бұрын
Black jaguar...
@valdivia1234567
7 ай бұрын
What's the estimated size? What's the scale used? Jaguarundi?
@bobcaygeon975
10 ай бұрын
Send someone out to that rock, and film them to get a proportional reference.
@Miaa_Glow
28 күн бұрын
its likely a melanistic bobcat
@ejhickey
10 ай бұрын
It's not Bigfoot
@yamyamyams2629
10 ай бұрын
Keep your littilems and dogs inside. AZ has jaguars.
@BCT-fx7wg
10 ай бұрын
Thats huge. Looks like Jaguar paw from apocalypto.
@DonaldWells-wk8dc
10 ай бұрын
We need a tourist attraction...gotta sell merchandise. Then form a western hunters possy ...charge entry tickets. Capture it!!
@lamimis2093
9 ай бұрын
Theres been sightings in the past 4 years last year as well and last month now this they are out their
@armageddonready4071
10 ай бұрын
Seems to be doing fine.
@Luminositii
10 ай бұрын
Melanistic Mountain Lion, already putting money on it, we've been there seen them before
@jenniferjaurigue9660
10 ай бұрын
Definitely looks like a black panther, poor big kitty, it should be fine in it’s own with plenty of small game to feed off of. It it was abandoned it may seek human contact just because it’s used to it and I am afraid at that time someone will get scared and then they will hunt it.
@jaxonboys3366
10 ай бұрын
That is a big black feline. Solved!
@Pinkielover
10 ай бұрын
Jaguars are native to Arizona not a big deal if it's a black one
@runfargetlost991
10 ай бұрын
yeah well not in phoenix, this is not a wild jaguar
@TropicGal777
10 ай бұрын
@@runfargetlost991exactly. People don't realize that Phoenix is a hotspot for the exotic animal trade. They get smuggled in from Mexico all the time I literally saw a LIVE snapchat my old drug dealer posted it was a damn tiger for sale here in Phoenix 😂 He said he wouldn't sell it to me because it would eat me
@lloydchristmas1086
10 ай бұрын
They were all killed off.
@fastdak25
10 ай бұрын
saw this, which of course led KZitem to give me an 11 month old video from Joe Rogan with a guy talking about re-introducing jaguars in North America, during which he mostly mentions Arizona
@alpineeva
10 ай бұрын
Check out Fisher Cat or marten, or ‘pole cat’. I’ve seen 2 in Idaho. Member of the mustiledae family.
@ottomatic3123
10 ай бұрын
It's big. Looks like it could be a black jaguar, but highly unlikely. Probably some idiot who thinks it cool to keep such wildlife as a prisoner/pet.
@aliceinbooklander
8 күн бұрын
if it has been captive they should find it and rehabilitate it bcs aint no way that thing will survive on its own now :/
@Rlittle1954
7 ай бұрын
Black Panther , i live in Georgia and have sen three , and the Game and fish says they aren't in this area . i have seen them in daylight I'm a business man and a man who owned a Real Estqate Franchise was with me
@archangel_one
10 ай бұрын
Kitty!
@AliciaDasta
10 ай бұрын
black jaguarundi They are in dangered almost instinct! They reside here and Arizona and in South texas
@Minimumholloway
10 ай бұрын
Jaguars live in arizona
@judyburns4629
10 ай бұрын
A Wolverine. Variety like the California type that are mostly black. Slinks like a cat because it is the largest member of the weasel family. Has a bearlike/catlike head and a very bushy tail. Extremely vicious hunting animal that can kill a deer, elk or take on a bear. Powerful jaws, strong teeth and claws. Probably protected because only about 300 are known to exist in the United States. Photos and recordings are rare.
@Matthew-zw9su
8 ай бұрын
Way too hot here for Wolverines.
@GT47179
10 ай бұрын
Black puma 😮
@DISGUYROX
10 ай бұрын
It's a former running back who was cut by Jacksonville of the NFL.
@mikefleek9259
2 ай бұрын
Sure is comforting all the EXPERTS cannot id the animal. Maybe mr Devos needs some schooling..... Black jag, way too big for a housecat. WHy can=t people ZOOM a camera
@GT47179
10 ай бұрын
Rare but still around
@wadewilson2170
10 ай бұрын
Definitely a chicken. Maybe an alligator. No. No. Definitely definitely a giraffe. Yeah, a giraffe. I’m a professional.
@Ivellisse43
10 ай бұрын
There going to wait that its in contact with human 😮wow that's a smart man 😮
@skydiver8163
10 ай бұрын
😂kity cat!!😂😂😂
@4RingsOfSaturn
9 ай бұрын
Looks like a jaguar.
@rexxer2792
10 ай бұрын
Please STOP filming in vertical for long distance ...
@robertturley5057
10 ай бұрын
game and fish needs to come hire these jaguar experts from the comments here because they know way more than they do. jaguars haven't been spotted further north than the mountains south and east of Tucson in over 70 years. how would it have even traveled to these mountains? the ones that come up from Mexico have mountain range "highways" from Mexico that they use to travel. someone correct me if i am wrong here, but isn't this mountain surrounded by urban area, especially to the South? how did it get there? the expert in the video is right, it's probably an escaped animal that someone was keeping. it might be a Jaguar, but if it was it escaped from someone who was keeping it.
@Llamadosalvaje
8 ай бұрын
Sometimes jaguars born in black color whit black tags
@mikeballou7598
10 ай бұрын
Jaguarundi is what I think it is.
@GrnXnham
10 ай бұрын
No question It's a squatch.
@PatrickBlack-q1n
2 ай бұрын
It's a leopard not big enough to be a jaguar probably turned loose by a private individual that didn't want to take care of it anymore dangerous situation
@MrNedsaabdickerson
3 күн бұрын
jaguarundy
@thebestninja80
4 ай бұрын
That's a house cat a well fed one at that. If it was a jag or even a leopard you'd see it in the size of a things head. Not saying they ain't out there but this ain't it
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