I actually own this TREK and the new Propel SL0, the Giant is nearly 1kg lighter and the ride quality with the Cadex wheels is something to be believed, it is a slight bit more of an all rounder and not quite as quick as the Trek once you get it up to speed. The TREK has the nicer cockpit regardless of what he says but a new bar on the Giant resolves that. You can't beat the value of the Giant, here in OZ it's 1K more than the Trek with full DA vs Ultergra - mind you, there's no difference in shifting etc or brake performance. I love the Giant but if I'm out on the flats the Trek is addictive, it's got updated RSL51 wheels and once it's wound up, is very quick and easier to hold at speed.
@yaboinugnug5066
Жыл бұрын
Hi, could you elaborate more on what you mean by "a new bar" for the Giant Propel? Do you mean bar shape and width, or the flared drops? I'm considering the bike, so your feedback would be a great help. Thanks!
@jaykay8048
Жыл бұрын
@@yaboinugnug5066 Changing to an ENVE aero bar with flared drops but narrower on the hoods by 3 cms over std bars, The bars are light but basic and I've used narrower bars and prefer them.
@yaboinugnug5066
Жыл бұрын
@@jaykay8048 Thanks a lot!
@FabianDraxl
Жыл бұрын
The new Scott Foil is missing here! 😢
@Sunday_Morning570
Жыл бұрын
I got the Giant Propel Advanced 0 AXS….so far; I love it-great handling bike with silky smooth shifting.
@nomadcarpenter8549
8 ай бұрын
How much do you weigh? Does it flex? Thanks
@cyclingchainsawchap9822
Жыл бұрын
The price difference between those bikes is more than my Merida Scultura 6000 cost new. It is a phenomenal bike for the price of under £3000 and definitely more achievable for more people than these 3 bike. Just glad there’s not Dogma F everywhere in this video.
@MsPietpaaltjes
Жыл бұрын
The merida scultura is an amazing bike, more comfortable and better for climbing, however pure speed wise an aerobike is alot faster on the flats, altough mostly because of the deep wheels
@cyclingchainsawchap9822
Жыл бұрын
@@MsPietpaaltjes Reacto 6000 still under £3k. Absolutely a better option than these. Overhyped marketing nonsense. I have an old Reacto too. I don’t know why more people don’t ride them for the bang for your buck.
@MsPietpaaltjes
Жыл бұрын
@@cyclingchainsawchap9822 reacto is now 3400 euro's, only a new set of wheels for another 1000 euro's and for 4400 euro's you have a better bike then this overpriced junk they are showing
@jamieokane989
Жыл бұрын
@@cyclingchainsawchap9822 ‘overhyped marketing nonsense’, don’t you understand science and data?
@jamieokane989
Жыл бұрын
@@MsPietpaaltjesyou might not like the bikes in the video, but to describe them as junk is just stupid.
@stanislavkindiakov6334
Жыл бұрын
My Giant TCR says: hold my beer
@michaelsteven1090
Жыл бұрын
I have both. The Tcr is insane up hill and out of the saddle, but the Propel is almost as good going up and blows it away on the flats and downhill. The Propel is the bike for fast group rides, especially when its your turn at the front!
@stanislavkindiakov6334
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsteven1090 cool! I have TCR and Trek Madone. As for me, difference between bike types is overrated. At least I do not feel that much of a difference
@tombola4046
Жыл бұрын
I have a TCR and a 23 propel, yes tcr slightly better on inclines ( depending on gear ratios) but everywhere else the propel smashes it.
@trollgapuzden
Жыл бұрын
Defy advanced 2 2015 carbon)))
@benhardwick1970
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsteven1090would you out that down to the frame or mostly the wheels and handlebar?
@ChinCycling
Жыл бұрын
Love that Ribble 🤩
@paulallen3511
Жыл бұрын
Best Aero category, but chose the least aero of the bunch because it was a better all-rounder. ok. All are great bikes - I would also add the Scott Foil to the list.
@mohammedhasan9313
Жыл бұрын
Just got last week trek madone slr 6 AXS Gen 7 from trek store for a deal for 7400$, the retail price is 8400$ and it is same identical to madone slr 7 other than the group set (shimano ultra vs sram rival) shifts smooth like a dream, and saved $1k in astonishing deal ,😊 that is 1600$ compared to madone slr7 in savings and keep in mind they both 2023 models and slr7 does not come with a power meter and slr6 AXS Gen 7 comes with it.,trek bikes might be expensive but if you know how to negotiate well, It's absolutely worth it !!!
@bikeradar
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you got a good deal! Cheers for watching. Simon
@mohammedhasan9313
Жыл бұрын
@@bikeradarthanks 🤠
@AntonioDiaz
3 ай бұрын
Just bought the giant propel super excited getting it Friday!
@Mattytube18
Жыл бұрын
Missing a Cervelo S5 and a Pinarello Dogma F
@eloquentom.9600
Жыл бұрын
Where is the Aeroad?
@FooFahFoeFum
Жыл бұрын
Ribble has just 3 years warranty. What about the Cervelo S7.
@db613
Жыл бұрын
To ask on an aero bike how much they weigh is that sacrilegious🤷🏻♂️?
@gregmorrison7320
Жыл бұрын
Giant but want a Shimano build, Ultegra 11 speed mechanical would be great, guess that won't happen so will stick with what I have already.
@twatts4436
Жыл бұрын
Go for the frameset option and build it yourself? You get exactly what you want and get the fun of building it yourself.
@stugallop4561
Жыл бұрын
I got my 12 speed Ultegra Pro 0 last week and it's a bit cheaper than the SRAM AXS model too, but no power meter. A set of Favero pedal spindles not far away. Compares well back to back against my TCR SL.... waited 7.5 months though here in NZ. Stu
@gregmorrison7320
Жыл бұрын
@@twatts4436 I think the frame is electronic only.
@LukasGrounds
Жыл бұрын
@@stugallop4561yup did the exact same. Waited a year but got the di2 version and added assioma. Love it. My friend who couldn't wait, got the TCR instead and has now ridden both. Said not as fast as the propel. Di2 lighter as well
@Mububban23
Жыл бұрын
Trek bikes are awesome but man, those prices. Nobody buys a Trek for "value for money"
@MadhuMadhu-zo2ks
Ай бұрын
I thought of buying the ribble can I go for it
@vojtechpolak9770
4 ай бұрын
And what is your opinion on Canyon aeroad CF SLX?
@JesperPickering
Жыл бұрын
Clamping the the Giant on the top tube...yiks
@wsbygt
Жыл бұрын
I was on the market for an aero frame and went through these and other propositions. Incredible value from Giant but I dont rate it as an aero bike but they sell complete bikes with imediate stock. Trek asks an absurd price for its frameset. Really liked the Ribble but for europe residents the cost is discouraging. In the end for stock and agressive pricing I ended up choosing between the Orca Aero and the Foil RC Pro. Cheers for the video!
@jamieokane989
Жыл бұрын
Bizarre comment with no conclusion?
@hifoad
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t Foil also too expensive?
@wsbygt
Жыл бұрын
@@hifoad From my experience Scott bike shops will get the PRO frameset for 3400€.
@douglasferreira1648
Жыл бұрын
so which one, foil or orca?
@twatts4436
Жыл бұрын
10 grand for an Ultegra equipped madone?!
@thatguy9051
Жыл бұрын
Excellent, keep them coming!!
@xaviermorel4956
Жыл бұрын
And the Aeroad of Canyon? Are you serious?
@zimboy777
Жыл бұрын
good choice - and value
@TnFruit
Жыл бұрын
It would have been nice, if there where track times inclouded...
@anatolianisenka3422
Жыл бұрын
Giant🚲 😍🥰
@chrisdavis8399
Жыл бұрын
Where’s the Canyon Aeroad?
@aidanmasterson50
Жыл бұрын
Both that and the Cervello S5 have a far higher win ratio in current pro racing.
@morrisizing
8 ай бұрын
@@aidanmasterson50 that's because Visma are on Cervelo's & Canyon sponsor multiple Teams including tge team of the best classics rider over the last few years! That's not to say either bike aren't up there both have tested well by the Tour magazine aero wise, but so have other bikes like the systemsix.
@mrjames7246
Жыл бұрын
Why not compare the 10k propel to the trek. Propel easily wins. Both still better than the ribble
@jonathanzappala
Жыл бұрын
We appreciate the ribble to $ conversion, even though we’ll never buy one here in America 👍
@DaveCM
Жыл бұрын
Why would we never buy one?
@jamieokane989
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that an extreme generalisation?
@jonathanzappala
Жыл бұрын
You can’t just go buy a Ribble in the USA. You would have to import one from the UK. If it’s an extreme generalization to say nobody is going to do that, so be it. That’s why he did a £ to $ conversion, as opposed to the Trek that costs nine thousand some dollars, but ten thousand some pounds, when those are not equal prices, yet that is the retail price on each country. Merida and Lapierre are two other brands you can’t buy in the USA.
@hifoad
Жыл бұрын
Here are ways to purchase Merida bikes in the US. I am in Los Angeles and own a 2021 Reacto and a 2022 Scultura. They are incredible, and I wouldn't trade them for any other bike 😊
@paulallen3511
Жыл бұрын
I did it and love my Ribble.
@nicolasledoux355
Жыл бұрын
What about a "best aero bike that doesn't cost the price of a car" video ?
@stanislavkindiakov6334
Жыл бұрын
Take Propel on 105
@bikeradar
Жыл бұрын
Aero bikes tend to be pretty expensive, unfortunately. As I say in the video, we did also do a Bike of The Year category for budget bikes - the Cannondale CAAD Optimo 1 won that (www.bikeradar.com/reviews/bikes/road-bikes/cannondale-caad-optimo-1-review-2/). Cheers for watching. Simon
@JoshuaTootell
Жыл бұрын
Cheap car.
@nguyenbanghia8970
11 ай бұрын
This bike was really easy to assemble kzitem.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
@darrengreen7906
Жыл бұрын
£3,299.00 for the Ribble Ultra SL R Frameset...
@darrengreen7906
Жыл бұрын
$4,200 US
@atsr_
Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling you jumped the gun with this “best of 2023 aero bikes”. When the new BMC/RedBull bike comes out officially, it’s going to make these look like relics
@user-kk9hw9ur5w
Жыл бұрын
Cervelo S5? Canyon A
@sunshinecycling
Жыл бұрын
Time stamps are f'ed up.
@xtianeskay5166
Жыл бұрын
So is his hairstyle and jacket
@bikeradar
Жыл бұрын
@@xtianeskay5166 haters gonna hate.
@xtianeskay5166
Жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar potatoes gonna potate
@bikeradar
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for spotting that, should be sorted now. Cheers for watching. Simon
@modemarcoj8026
Жыл бұрын
Most people that buy these Aero bikes do not even ride in an aero position which defeats the purpose and concept of aero . You can ride a 25 year old bike stem slammed in an aero position and be much more aero then the drs and lawyers that ride these aero bikes in an upright position.
@JoshuaTootell
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but I can ride an aero bike in an aero position.
@tonywilson5468
Жыл бұрын
Firstly the Giant isn't an out and out aero bike like the other two, it's a lightweight and fairly aero bike the other "all-rounder" bikes on the market, like the Tarmac SL7. Secondly, why isn't the Trek "reclining" seatpost not discussed? It's not a secret that there are failures in the public domain to see and read about. Can you really put a bike with such a potentially catastrophic failure built in up for discussion in the video?
@fastbladeproductions7961
10 ай бұрын
Trek 10g's and those components.... sad .... I tell you right now your not gonna beat me when I'm on my Vitus Zenium CR that has a few upgrades totaling $1900usd for everything and too top it off only weighs 7.9kgs with pedals no less.....
@syazwanabdull4835
Жыл бұрын
Make helmet top 10 best helmet
@adossantos69751
Жыл бұрын
Trek is outrageously overpriced. Its a subpar frame compared with the likes of Giant or Ribble. I was lucky to own bikes from all those 3 brands but not so lucky to own a Trek. Their carbon layup is frail and prone to cracking. And God forbid your Trek frame don’t crack accidentally as they don’t offer a crash replacement program. I have a brand new trek pro caliber sat in my living room with a crack on the down tube. it was an unfortunate outing. First ride off road, first small stone frung and hit my downtube, voala, crack!!! Trek doesn’t want to know about it, just blamed the little stone for the unfortunate crack. Im currently saving money to have it repaired by carbon bike repair, wich by the way was on point. Do your self a favour and do your research before committing buying a carbon bike. Their advertising is not what it seems, its only a way to fish customers with false promesses. To be honest the best bike I have is a Dawes Audax Winter Sport steel bike. I have had it for 11 years, its been through hell, and the frame still as good as new. I have fallen for this fad, I have spend a lot money on unnecessary latest technology junk, disc brakes and all. If I could go back im time I would not have made such mistakes knowing what I know now. Long live the Steel frames, rim brakes and tubular wheels and tires. Those where good days!!!
@ben4373
Жыл бұрын
Not sure chimney stack and lack of top cap is doing the Propel any favours…
@twatts4436
Жыл бұрын
They're not allowed to cut the stems on the test bikes. The Trek also had one.
@bikeradar
Жыл бұрын
Would be lovely if we could cut the steerers on test bikes (as I agree it looks naff), but unfortunately they always go back to the brands after testing so we can't! Cheers for watching. Simon
@ilanpi
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand your choice since this test is about the best aero bike, not the best all around bike.
@bikeradar
Жыл бұрын
The Ribble was amazing fun to ride, but it's also incredibly focused and I think most people would prefer the more balanced ride quality of the Giant. Absolutely fine to disagree with my choice, though! Cheers for watching. Simon
@ilanpi
Жыл бұрын
@@bikeradar Ok! By the way, here in Switzerland, my observation is that about 95% of amateurs do not have an aero body position. I showed up at the local group ride with the Worx WX-R 33cm bars you tested, and they thought I was totally nuts. Maybe it's that there are so many climbs here, but probably also due to what you state. I believe that aero bikes are a waste if you can't get your body aero, and your observation leads me to conclude that aero bikes are mostly useless for the large majority of amateurs.
@berthierseraphin6840
Жыл бұрын
Giant propel sl ya pas mieux en ce moment le cadre est à 1900e
@XxxxTxTxxxX
Жыл бұрын
The Canyon aeroad is the best bang for your buck bike. It's also the best looking. But still, I wouldn't buy aero bike if i'm not racing. Aero is overpriced af
@vg3222
Жыл бұрын
Its the best looking, but lets not ignore the Seatpost issues
@tombola4046
Жыл бұрын
Yeh but it’s a canyon 💩
@LukasGrounds
Жыл бұрын
That seat post issue is killing their fans. My mate is pulling his hair out having sent his back twice! And it's heavy
@kpsig
Жыл бұрын
I wonder who, weighting above 80kg more or less, would trust this peculiar and flimsy looking seat tube arrangement of the TREK…
@cvdavis
Жыл бұрын
Trek wouldn’t risk a recall and brand damage by making it flimsy.
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