I once belonged to this denomination. I must say you done an even better job than the leaders in explaining the church's origin and beliefs
@triplea6174
4 ай бұрын
Yup same here i was raised in this denomination. may i ask where are you now? I'm now an orthodox Christian ☦️
@aliciamcdonald7105
4 ай бұрын
@@triplea6174 I do not belong to any particular Christian denomination as such but I consider myself a member of the BODY OF CHRIST which I recognize as ALL WHO have accepted Jesus Christ as their savior and have received the gift of the Holy Spirit and who strive daily to live a life of PURPOSE in the building of God's kingdom here on earth.
@Me2Lancer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative post and for the in depth research you engage in while preparing your presentations.
@BramptonAnglican
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for teaching us about the Adventist church.
@mkseverance
2 жыл бұрын
This is the church I grew up going to and still do. Calvin is a distant cousin of mine. He also moved to Oregon and now goes to my church. Israel Steinmetz has since left the church as I recall. This video is very accurate. Some of the changes over the years have definitely been controversial within COG7.
@spiderb3367
2 жыл бұрын
Loving the frequency of these posts in December
@garymiedema642
2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are information-dense and I appreciate your efforts.Thankyou.
@gozieorafu9481
2 жыл бұрын
This is amazingly beautiful. The insights into the history of the church is Commendable.
@gringoloco543
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. That was a fair and accurate description of our denomination
@MaxwellKozen
Жыл бұрын
I'm SDA but back in my undergrad (attended a multi-denominational school) was the first time I met someone who was COG7. Mutual friends and classmates introduced us to each other because to their evangelical eyes, we were both Seventh-day Adventist. Then we met and kind of laughed at it because, well ... not exactly haha. We played on a worship team together at the school though. He was a dope drummer.
@waynestevens79
2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to a study on Seventh Day Baptist. Great history!
@ReadyToHarvest
Жыл бұрын
That is coming soon!
@messageweek
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Insightful, unbiased and informative.
@ReadyToHarvest
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, glad to hear it!
@alex21mu
2 жыл бұрын
Yyyaaayyy finally, I am A member. Born and raised in my beloved COG7
@Bfatbins
2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing I was researching this group yesterday
@alex21mu
2 жыл бұрын
I am a member of COG7
@johnbraden5635
2 жыл бұрын
@@alex21mu weird flex, but ok
@316350
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very gracious representation of this ministry.
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan
2 жыл бұрын
Great overview of the COG7. Will you be looking at churches that follow the Preterist view of Eschatology in the near future?
@GabrielJimenez-pc3qv
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for going over this so thoroughly, it really helped me and my family
@americanswan
2 жыл бұрын
This was educational. I see some limited similarities to Seventh-day Adventist.
@stevecaswell
Жыл бұрын
My dad was a pastor in this church around 1957. I was baptized at Springvale Academy in Owosso, Michigan in 1973. Calvin Burrell was one of my teachers there and was also the director of the school. I recall that he had gone on to become conference president for about 10 years. Concerning the deity of Yeshua the Messiah, he and the Father are one, or echad in Hebrew which means plural oneness. God in Hebrew is Elohim. It is a title given to the father and son collectively. The father alone is El. They are of the same spirit. Faith alone will not save us, even the demons believe and trouble. Faith without works is dead. I have also discovered that the Moedim, which is Hebrew for appointed times, often referred to as holy days were not abolished. In the book of Matthew Messiah told us not to think that he has come to destroy the Torah or the prophets, he has not come to destroy but to complete. The stance of the Cog7 concerning the Holy days is that it has to be kept in Jerusalem where Elohim puts his name. However scripture reveals that if we can't go there to keep it where we are. Shalom.
@rexjamerson9316
Жыл бұрын
Are you related to Nelson Caswell? We in the United Church of God rented the building on Sabbath afternoon for church services. He performed my mother's funeral service and was a true gentleman and and an excellent example of Christian Behavior.
@Carebearintl
Жыл бұрын
Wrong! The church of God 7th day did not come out of the 7th Day Adventist 🙄. The only similarities they have is the day they worship on
@ReadyToHarvest
Жыл бұрын
COG7 came from the Adventist movement just like the SDA church did. This is an indisputable fact.
@steshaw3
2 ай бұрын
Do they consider themselves to be protestant?
@Carebearintl
2 ай бұрын
@@ReadyToHarvestYou are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts 🤦🏽♀️
@ReadyToHarvest
2 ай бұрын
@@Carebearintl Everyone including COG7 themselves claims they came from the Adventist movement, which also produced the SDA church. There's plenty of documentation.
@IvyElizabeth918
Ай бұрын
Do you know what the Adventist movement is/was?
@frankmckinley1254
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video glad you got around to this/these groups & Churches.
@TolikRolik
2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, I was wondering if you're ever going to cover Catholic branches and how they are different from protestants?
@thursoberwick1948
2 жыл бұрын
Sedevacantists?
@James_Wisniewski
2 жыл бұрын
It'd be cool to have a RtH-style video/series on the various Catholic monastic orders (Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits, etc.).
@therealAZLN
2 жыл бұрын
@@thursoberwick1948 Did you mean: schismatics?
@thursoberwick1948
2 жыл бұрын
@@therealAZLN They would consider themselves as practising a more authentic form of Catholicism than anything since Vatican II maybe earlier. In some respects they wouldn't be wrong. The current Pope is more interested in Davos than traditional doctrine.
@jedidiahsojourner1917
Жыл бұрын
Happy non- denominationalist here !!
@brendaboykin3281
2 жыл бұрын
Thanx, Joshua🌹🌹🌹
@slsfargo
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, i have read some of the different churches that you have done the videos on and is good to know their doctrine. This is the church i grew up in so was very interesting as i dont think i ever really knew what their doctrine was. ThAnk you for putting the time an effort in all of these videos.
@ReadyToHarvest
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome Sherry, glad you like them!
@donnacaesar-roberts9472
Жыл бұрын
Never saw a Seventh Day Church of God in the US .
@MultiRm
10 ай бұрын
As far as Doctrinal shift from faith plus works It should be understood, faith and the works are the result of that faith.
@Marbo12f
2 жыл бұрын
I have utilized these videos to make a growing list of the ways Christianity finds diversity in its beliefs and practices. As others have brought up, it would be of interest to have a questionnaire database to find out what denomination people actually align with most. So far I’m at 120, but of course there are many caveats: particularly on the subject of where rejection of one belief confers acceptance the opposite. For instance in this video, This-We-Believe states baptism doesn’t wash away sins nor is it through human ritualism that people are saved. Yet those baptized by pouring and sprinkling must be rebaptized by immersion. Leaving my understanding of how to qualify a yes/no response to the essentialness of baptism for this denomination muddled.
@acs1602
2 жыл бұрын
It would be great if you share that databa se online!, maybe someone could make an API from it and then made a web application to visualiza all this denominations easily, like a big comparative visual element
@GabrielJimenez-pc3qv
Жыл бұрын
yes it would be great if you could share
@emekaossia
2 жыл бұрын
Please let this video be a must watched by all our ministers and Sabbath school teachers , to save the church from so many borrowed teachings not inshrined in this we Beleive
@rongallosh3190
5 ай бұрын
Read John 1:1-4. The Holy Spirit is the power and essence of God. The Holy Spirit is not mentioned in these verses. These verses is Jesus telling John who God is. If the Holy Spirit is a divine being, wouldn't Jesus mention Him in these verses. Like 'In the beginning was the Word and the Holy Spirit, and they were with God.... The Holy Spirit isn't mention ;it not mentioned until verse 32 - where the Holy Spirit is call it
@pbcaylor_1
Жыл бұрын
Excellent … needed this … thx so much!
@ReadyToHarvest
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@rogermetzger7335
2 жыл бұрын
Until 1958, I was satisfied to learn what our parents conveyed to my siblings and me about the history of the church and I was satisfied to read the literature they read. From 1958 to the present, I have examined the history of the church on my own and, because I consider a person to be truly Chrisian who is learning to trust the Lord, I hesitate to refer to any denomination as “the church”. I even prefer to avoid using the full name of those organizations that include the word “Church” in their formal name. The flip side of my personal preference is that I consider the split between eastern and western branches of the church (1054) to be just that, i.e. that neither branch IS the church. Likewise, that the distinction between Christians and non-Christians is not strictly along the line between protestants and non-protestants. I believe there are true Christians in most of the several protestant denominations, although I have yet to find any denomination the creed of which explains all Bible doctrines in precisely the ways I do. Someone suggested that, because my understanding of the Bible is uniquely my own, maybe I “should start my own church.” Well, no. I’m as sure as I can be that isn’t what the Lord wants me to do. At the same time, I think many people would benefit from the creation of a LAY evangelistic organization that is different from any of which I am aware. Different? Most evangelistic associations measure success in terms of numbers of people who make a profession of faith in Jesus. Not that there is anything wrong with encouraging people to make a profession of faith in Jesus but remember what James said about devils who believe (James 2:19). Some denominations proselytize and call that “evangelism”. Instead of requiring laity who are provided with expense accounts (or/and salaries) to do evangelistic work to affirm a list of doctrines, my idea is to require them, while they are receiving financial support from the lay evangelistic association I envision, to agree to NOT teach certain doctrines. I consider the God of the Bible to be triune. (More about which if anyone is interested.) So I’d prefer to provide moral support for evangelists who avoid using the word “Trinity” because that word emphasises the threeness of God without a corresponding emphasis on his oneness. At the same time, I’d prefer to provide moral support for evangelists who avoid teaching that someone is less than Christian who denies that the life of Jesus is original, unborrowed, underived. (Were there too many negatives in that sentence?) I’m 77 and my Social Security checks are a little over $600 so I won’t be providing financial support for any evangelistic association until or unless there is a significant change in my own situation. Evangelists supported by the evangelistic assoication I envision would agree to not teach that there is any sense in which we can earn or deserve any aspect of salvation - justification, sanctification or glorification. Evangelists supported by the evangelistic association I envision would agree to not teach that the Bible should be interpreted by modern revelation - not even that the Hebrew Bible should be interpreted by the Gospels or/and the Epistles. Evangelists supported by the evangelistic association I envision would agree to not teach that clergy have any more spiritual authority than the laity do or that spiritual authority is received from or through the hierarchy of a religious organization. Evangelists supported by the evangelistic association I envision would agree to not teach that Sunday, Christmas or Easter are holy days. Evangelists supported by the evangelistic assoication I envision would agree to not teach that humans are immortal or have an immortal soul. What do you think? Are there other doctrines that, even if you believe them, are not essential to the proclamation of the gospel as you understand it? P.S. to anyone who conveys information about people who are “adventists” in the lowercase sense of that word. The present-day advent movement is about the second advent of Jesus. I’ve never heard anyone emphasize the second syllable of the word “advent” whether speaking about the first advent of Jesus or his second advent. An emphasis on the second syllable of the word “adventist” gives the impression that a person doesn’t understand the origin and meaning of the term “adventist” - in much the way that emphasizing the second syllable of the word “methodist” would give the impression that someone doesn’t understand the origin and meaning of the term “methodist”.
@316350
2 жыл бұрын
I’m a member of the General Conference of the Church of God (Seventh Day) and serve in this ministry as a pastor. I do not believe this specific denomination to be “the Church” but only one branch of the vine. I believe and agree with your comments about sincere believers being in every denominational and nondenominational, eastern or western churches. I have chosen to join the CoG7 (what we call our denomination) because as I read the scriptures, when I was a child and teenager, it is the denomination that I found to be most in line with what I found the scriptures to teach. I visited and talked with pastors of other churches, denominational and nondenominational. Unfortunately, I was most often pointed to anything but scripture; I was pointed to other books. I had pastors tell me they weren’t willing to address certain doctrines because they weren’t interested in splitting the church, even after they said to me that they agreed with my understanding.
@triplea6174
2 жыл бұрын
Mm Interesting takes and views. I'm in the middle of studying the different denomination/branches of Christianity, and so far I'm hesitant as well to call any denomination/branch " The Church". But I do see evidence of the holy spirit/fruit in almost each one. It's intimidating and time consuming but i find it intriguing and useful.
@triplea6174
2 жыл бұрын
@@316350 hey fellow member here too. cool that they did our denomination huh?! It's a bit ironic as i grew up in this church but my family left when I was a child and once i got older i came back. Which state are you at? I'm in Vegas.
@316350
2 жыл бұрын
@@triplea6174 yes, I found the video to be very fair too. I was wondering if we’d be accused of being a cult, as some have suggested over the years. I’m in Michigan. I visited the Las Vegas church in 2006; were you and/or your family attending around that time?
@rogermetzger7335
2 жыл бұрын
@@triplea6174 Studying the different denominations/branches of Christianity can be helpful. I’ve done that quite a bit myself and I find Ready to Harvest videos both useful and among the most accurate / unbiased sources of which I am aware. Please consider, however, focusing your study on the history of the church. I think of the church as having existed ever since the proclamation of the protoevangelium (Genesis 3:15). In my view, the Christian faith includes people who were learning to trust the Lord long before Jesus was born. The word, “Christ”, is derived from the Greek word “Christos” which is the equivalent to the Hebrew word, “Messiah”. When this is taken into consideration, the Hebrews (and some others) who anticipated the first advent of the Messiah were as surely “Christians”, even if they didn’t know a word of Greek. I’m sure I’m not the only person who tends to “put myself into the story” when I read about Abraham, Joseph, Moses, Daniel and his friends as well as when I read about Jesus and his apostles. On the other hand, some people seem to have never tried to understand how various people in history were motivated to make the choices they did. Maybe that’s why some people don’t find the history of the protestant reformation as interesting as I do. There are some denominations in the United States that exist because people who came here from Europe preferred to maintain the traditions that had been developed in the countries where they previously lived. Some even - for a while after coming to North America - continued to hold services in the languages of the countries of their birth (Dutch Reformed, for example). Other denominations, however, exist because the Lord called individuals or groups of people to emphasize specific aspects of the many truths about himself and how he relates to his human children. I have found it helpful to try to understand the circumstances that led to the reforms proposed by John Wycliffe (1328-1384, Jon Hus (1369-1415), Martin Luther (1483-1546), the English puritans of the sixteenth century, especially the Mayflower Pilgrims of the early seventeenth century, John Wesly and others. I don’t agree with all of the doctrines and practices of those various reformers but, if you can “put yourself into their shoes”, I think you will find their history to be both informative and inspiring. I don’t entirely agree with the doctrines of John Calvin (1509-1564) but he lived at a time when most people in western Europe thought their salvation depended on the decisions of the priests. Try to imagine the relief of the people who heard Calvin teach that such decisions had been made by God before they were born.
@gleaalkhatib3880
26 күн бұрын
Isaiah Chapter 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
@danlin8662
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Church of God Seventh Day in Fargo is part of this group. I went to that church a lot as a kid but didn't know anything about their particular theological perspectives aside from the very obvious things like going to church on Saturday.
@316350
2 жыл бұрын
They are.
@OrbitalDev
Жыл бұрын
This is a nice summary for anyone who doesn't want to or can't read "This We Believe" 😂
@hammerhead7344
10 ай бұрын
God bless you ❤😊
@christianspathministry5541
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, could you do a video on the General Association of Davidian Seventh Day Adventists founded by Victor Tasho Houteff?
@watcherwlc53
2 жыл бұрын
Are they related to the Branch Davidians and David Koresh?
@christianspathministry5541
2 жыл бұрын
@@watcherwlc53 The Branch Davidians are an offshoot organization founded by Benjamin Roden several months after Victor Houteff died in 1955. David Koresh(Vernon Wayne Howell) gained control of this offshoot organization many years later. Doctrinally the Branch Davidians are very very different from the General Association of Davidian Seventh Day Adventists.
@mr.starfish4965
2 жыл бұрын
Glad a video uploaded on my birthday
@Fern_Thaddeus
2 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday !
@mr.starfish4965
2 жыл бұрын
@@Fern_Thaddeus Thanks!!
@RonaldSimkin
5 ай бұрын
The Church of God Seventh-Day in Salem West Virginia is actually the 7th Day Baptist Church which was founded [1792] long before William Miller [1820's-1840's] and the Seventh-Day Adventists [1863.]
@JohnRobinson-qo7qb
Жыл бұрын
Actually the Seventh Day Baptists were very active back in the 1700’s and may have played a part in the formation of the Church of God Seventh Day.
@aaroncleveland4969
Жыл бұрын
SDB were influential in getting the Adventist into accepting the 7day sabbath. So in a round about way you are right.
@billmartin3561
2 жыл бұрын
How about doing a video on the first four centuries of the church and the major milestones, beliefs, polity, and practices. From the Apostles to when the books of the Bible were finally canonized, quoting the early church fathers who were closest to Christ. I’m curious what current church the early church would most resemble???
@essafats5728
2 жыл бұрын
Agree. But can it be done justly with an open mind and humble heart, i.e. no baggage from their current beliefs?
@TXM33
2 жыл бұрын
@@essafats5728 Of course it can. The Catholic Church is perfect the people within her are not. The Church is inspired and guided by the Holy Spirit. The Catholic position on Scripture has always been that it is without error on faith and morals and also on everything else. It is the word of God, word for word. The imperfect people who received inspiration to write it did not mess up when they put the pen to paper, even though they were fallible humans.
@MultiRm
9 ай бұрын
@@TXM33 The Catholic Church, you are correct. The Roman Catholic Church, nah.
@gleaalkhatib3880
26 күн бұрын
Exod. 23. [13] And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.
@vanlalropuia1647
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video from India Mizoram
@warrenrodgers7544
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the only way humbly ask he will answer you
@justinfiorenzio7112
Жыл бұрын
H.W. Armstrong, from what I understand came out of this group of Adventist churches
@ilovemyboyfriend5425
Жыл бұрын
what about The Church Of God Jerusalem Acres? they r 7 th day
@jonatanbarrang4353
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for quite answer my request. because i request for COG movement by Amstrong that claimed as Philadelpia brethen. like Continuing Church of God (CCOG) that famous in internet as COGWriter that founded by Bob Thiel and United Church of God that also famous in internet. can i request to you to made video about them!
@jahzeelchavez5756
Жыл бұрын
That’s the Word Wide Church of God
@krazykris9396
2 жыл бұрын
How many denomiations have "church of god" in them?
@sonicteal8723
2 жыл бұрын
Too many🙃
@Perririri
2 жыл бұрын
Only Jehovah's Witnesses use the name Jehovah!
@thursoberwick1948
2 жыл бұрын
@@Perririri Not even true. Apart from their offshoots, it's found in the KJV.
@daviderman5931
2 жыл бұрын
Calvin Burrell died yesterday June 29 2022.
@maegardnermills4292
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. You were fast talking.
@gospelive5076
Жыл бұрын
Also, we do not see denominations in the scriptures and further to, the writings of scripture reject any denomination.
@Keonny77
2 жыл бұрын
As a Adventist I think a sign is that our denomination was able to grow the way it did. Many disagree with the status of EGW in the church. I don't agree with everything she says or even everything St. Paul said. But I do find it interesting that we grew into a worldwide movement with schools and hospitals only 2nd in number to the Roman Catholic Church but this cousin of our's has less than 1million members. I wonder if they had less emphasis on evangelism than we do or something. BTW there are numbers Sabbath keeping Christians. Seventh-day Adventists are just the largest and most well-known...but there are many other smaller groups.
@americanswan
2 жыл бұрын
You want to make the point that SDA growth may be of some significance verses these other groups. Logically growth or speed of growth does not necessarily indicate anything but it's possible the church was blessed in some way but more evidence would need to be examined. As a counter example, a local church who, over a short period of time, sees an increase in membership doesn't indicate anything. I am confused though. SDA claim Scripture as true, yet you don't always agree with Paul?
@Keonny77
2 жыл бұрын
@@americanswan Growth of membership and church seems to be more or less marketing marketing market ability and accessibility from what I've seen that is basically why you have a rise of Mega churches. The doctrines of the Sunday of in his church may be a little difficult for many people to accept and absorb so many people are not necessarily willing to go that route even if they agree mentally with the things that we teach until they get it as a spiritual necessity in their heart they're not willing to make a conversion. @americanswan My opinions on Saint Paul are my own personal views and not necessarily that of the 7th day Adventist church that is based off of my own personal study as a self taught theologian and you will probably find there are many other theologians in Christianity that have similar views in regards to Pauline theology versus theology versus what Jesus said.
@essafats5728
2 жыл бұрын
Keonny, observations of Sda hospitals: big difference from rcc hospitals - Sda hospitals performs abortions on a for-profit basis.
@americanswan
2 жыл бұрын
@@essafats5728 I am glad you brought that up. Most Adventist aren't aware of that. It was only exposed online a few years ago I think. The church reaffirmed the sanctity of life and I think they only are supposed to do abortions in rare cases after the controversy became an issue. Those hospitals and hospital administrators do NOT speak for me. I know my mother hit herself or something to induce an abortion when she was young and married because she already had four children and she was concerned with the direction the marriage was going. She later sought a divorce. I don't know all the details. My mother also doesn't speak for me. Abortion is not talked about in church and I am against them.
@Keonny77
2 жыл бұрын
@@essafats5728 We are protestants and protestants traditionally do not necessarily have an isthere we have a issue with abortion I've learned that by the viewing this channel for whatever reason in yeah that's the reason in America it became an issue with the growing prevalence of Catholicism for some reason but in Europe in protestant countries is not an issue. The Adventist church has already declared that we do not believe in euthanasia or abortion for the sake of abortion and as far as the hospitals many times these hospitals even though they are sponsored by the church act independently of the church because of the laws....
@Jefff72
Жыл бұрын
I had a colleague in the Air Force who was a 7th Day Adventist. When I was home, I asked my pastor (WELS) about this demonization. He considered them Christians who practice differently.
@Exactamundo
2 жыл бұрын
Church of God GC - Unitarian Church of God (7th day) - Binitarian First Day Adventist - Trinitarian Seventh Day Adventist - Trinitarian This makes me wonder if our belief of who God is really more important than the day we worship him.
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
Let me say right out the gate, that I am not a member of the Church of God 7th Day or have I ever been. However, that being said I believe cog7 is a remnant of the True Church of God and is described in Revelation chapter 3 and verse 1 as the Sardis Church. God's true people are also described in Revelation 14:12..."Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." Commandment Keepers is a coded message for Seventh-Day Sabbath Observers. They keep both the faith of Jesus and the Commandments.
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
@Меѳодїи judaizers implies that they practice Judaism. That is not correct. Judaism is not the true religion of the Old Testament. It is an interpretation of the Old Testament by way of the Pharisees and other so-called sages. If they are judaizers, then all the church members of the New Testament churches would have been also.
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
@Меѳодїи how could the Septuagint possibly be more accurate then the masoretic text? Being copies of the original Hebrew. A considerable number of Scholars believe the Septuagint to be highly flawed. IMHO the new King James Version, based on the majority text for the New Testament and mainly the masoretic text for the old to be a reasonably reliable translation. I didn't say perfect, but a pretty decent translation. For the record, I am not into the cultish belief of KJV only. And for the record, I do not consider myself a Protestant.
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
@Меѳодїи the Septuagint is unbiased? You have got to be kidding me! Virtually every modern translation today has biases in it. I don't care how many are on a committee and what their claims are. Just because the apostles used the Septuagint doesn't prove anything. They had to use what was available. In addition, there is no perfect copies. We obviously don't have any of the original autograph, but as dr. Daniel Wallace has stated, we can make a reasonable assessment of what is accurate. ( that is a paraphrase).
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
@Меѳодїи I will make one final comment. Have you ever attended a Church of God 7th Day service? Well, I have and I got to know intimately the senior pastor in Kansas City by the name of Nelson Caswell. I never saw anything there even remotely that could be referred to as being a Judaizer. In fact, they have a very strong emphasis on promoting Jesus Christ as Savior and coming King. Even though, I was not a member of the church, my mother was dying in the hospital and Pastor Nelson came to visit her on the last day of her life and spent six hours with her. He also performed the funeral. I have never in my life seen a more kind, decent and converted Christian man in my life.
@maryachuti4997
4 ай бұрын
How i wish you spoke slowly for most of us to understand what youre saying! Youre too fast.
@IvyElizabeth918
Ай бұрын
You can slow the video down to 0.75 by changing the settings
@alternativefactory7190
8 ай бұрын
Why do so many of the SDA churches turn into cults.
@awfelia
2 жыл бұрын
The Spirit from God the Father to the Son To Us-ward as Believers..
@deemdeemo2827
Ай бұрын
As a Member of Sda I feel cry inside those who are keep sabath but not sda Ephesians 4:5 one believe, one faith even though the keep Sabbath at last there is will sadness to them I will say that SDA church also needs to updated little bit a intellectual growth How they create word of Bible to another Bible word oh! Why I think they have some egoistic on their mind Fathe is God Son is also God Holy spirit also God If one of them absent then no one was it According to my view on their belive, there have no sense to them to living after death.
@BFashionsTailoring
Жыл бұрын
Sabbath church of God seventh day Uk 🇬🇧
@alicegriffin8545
2 жыл бұрын
I believe that God the Son is not younger than the Father. The Father didn't create the Son, who is eternal. The Father declared Him to be His son. (I believe this on the basis of Psalm 2:7). I also believe (on the authority of Matthew 28:19) that The Holy Spirit is God Almighty.
@drusauza8291
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, Jesus is the "one and only" similarly a first born son is the "one and only." God did not "birth/create" Jesus.
@MultiRm
9 ай бұрын
Matthew 28:19 has been disputed as not an original translation. None of the apostles followed this order. They only baptized in the name of Jesus.
@RonJohn63
2 жыл бұрын
2:01 I remember him!! 5:08 It appears that they're migrating back(?) to standard Protestant evangelical orthodoxy. 6:15 Ok, not that much back to standard Protestant evangelical orthodoxy...
@annievarkey3071
8 ай бұрын
Why there are innumerable number of churches? Ordinary Christians consider Jesus as God and want to follow his teachings because his is the best teachings.we don’t want to debate about the various theories,rituals,dogmas and heresies. Because of these there are unnecessary fights between various churches.for us Christians and no Christian’s are our brothers and sisters. We want to show and spread Christ‘S teachings through our dealings and behaviour.
@speedchaser4991
6 ай бұрын
The churches are doing Satan work; division, Christianity is divided in many ways.
@Willy-nu3oc
2 жыл бұрын
Desmond Doss' Church?
@ReadyToHarvest
2 жыл бұрын
Desmond was part of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Video about them coming later this month. They used to be more opposed to war than they are today.
@Willy-nu3oc
2 жыл бұрын
@@ReadyToHarvest Thank you, sir. I thought they were similar.
@walterhelm8186
Жыл бұрын
Nom JWs came out the Sunday keeping branch of Adventists.
@Keonny77
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I'm SDA. They are a divergent from our movement. They rejected EGW and went in an opposite direction along with the 1st dat Adventist. Spposedly there were some anti trinitarians in the early leadership. We abandoned that early on...but JWs and this group kept it... but like all denominations... they grow and change...
@elidavila2258
2 жыл бұрын
We do not follow or believe in the trinity!
@Keonny77
2 жыл бұрын
Also there are several groups that use the name COG and some are sabbatarians.
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
The seventh day Baptists we're here and keeping the Sabbath more than 180 years before there was anything such as a Seventh-Day Adventist. It appears that Stephen Mumford and his wife started a Sabbath keeping group around 1671 in Rhode Island, and there is some evidence there were a handful of people keeping the Sabbath before this couple arrived. Bottom line? There were several others keeping The Seventh-Day Sabbath before the invention of The Seventh-Day Adventist Church. The True Church of God has always had the correct name also. It is referred to 12 times in the New Testament as the Church of God. In addition, looking to a female leader in the church is a violation of 1st Timothy 2:11 - 12. The True Church of God has never practiced this violation of scripture. Although I am not a member, I believe that the Church of God 7th Day is a remnant of the True Church of God founded in 30 A.D. It is my belief that they are the Sardis era of the Church of God spoken of in Revelation chapter 3.
@Keonny77
2 жыл бұрын
@@rexjamerson9316 The 7th day sabbath was taught to us by the 7th day baptists the 7th day adventists learned of this from the 7th day Baptist Rachel oaks was a 7th day Baptist who taught a sea captain(Bates) that exposed this teaching to sister white early in the beginning of the movement. The only reason people refer to we 7 day adventists is because we are the largest single group of sabbatarians in existence today unless you count the Ethiopian orthodox church which has lessened the importance of sabbath.
@johnbraden5635
2 жыл бұрын
@@elidavila2258 do you not celebrate birthdays or christmas? similar to the Jehovah's Witnesses?
@bandie9101
2 жыл бұрын
it's like the Life of Brian in real life… Are you the Judean People's Front? We're the People's Front of Judea!
@megameow321
2 жыл бұрын
Having a hard time differentiating their view of “unipluralism” from literally every other trinitarian belief. It seems like a difference in semantics, not substance.
@elidavila2258
2 жыл бұрын
The difference is in semantics and only some believe this way. Most believe in an anti-trinitarian approach. Leadership just fails to write such words in “this we believe” books, but it is noted in core doctrine if you look at it!
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
They don't believe the holy spirit is a "person", but the power of God which emanates from both the God the Father and God the son.
@elidavila2258
2 жыл бұрын
@@rexjamerson9316 we* I am a member, I agree !
@GabrielJimenez-pc3qv
Жыл бұрын
they don't have 3 persons of God, just 2 persons. so they reject the number 3
@jahzeelchavez5756
Жыл бұрын
We believe the Holy Spirit is not a deity but the presence of God in the believer. Many members decide to keep the old creed even though This We Believe states otherwise 🤷🏻♀️
@robmullin1128
2 жыл бұрын
Jehovahs Witnesses came out of the Millerite movement and are also Adventist in some of their theology.
@pheonawilliam2390
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the church of God I go to is definitely NOT Adventist !! Not anything close . Beliefs are totally different
@gospelive5076
Жыл бұрын
There is so much misinterpretation and in some instances dishonesty in respect of the statements of doctrine, there are something in scripture which are plain. It is either that some disregard altogether or have never read them. For instance there is example of the Saints meeting on the Lord s Day (First Day of the Week) for Breaking of Bread and worship, Acts 20:7.
@hectorhernandez215
2 жыл бұрын
If Holy Spirit is not God ..why Peter said to Ananias that he lied to Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3) And later he told Ananias he lied to God(Acts 5:4) How those churches can think Holy Spirit is not God..?.. They read Scriptures or not....??..
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
Sir, you really don't understand theology or rules of Bible study. The Bible is filled with figures of speech like anthropomorphism. Since both Peter and John were filled with the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit emanates from both God the Father and Jesus Christ, he was essentially lying to God through the power of the Holy Spirit. See my previous note about the fallacious reasoning of the Trinity worshippers.
@scottleary8468
2 жыл бұрын
@@rexjamerson9316 Gloria Patri et Filio et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper et in saecula saeculorum. Amen.
@rexjamerson9316
2 жыл бұрын
@@scottleary8468 I don't speak Latin, or whatever language that is?
@scottleary8468
2 жыл бұрын
@@rexjamerson9316 Translation: "Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen." I was simply worshiping, in Latin, the adorable Trinity. I'm a "Trinity worshiper."
@GabrielJimenez-pc3qv
Жыл бұрын
per what the video said, they would say that the spirit is the personal presence of God, aka they lied to either the Father or the Son. don't have to accept it, but from your verses I could see how the views in the video would parse your argument and say "yep, no problem"
@ryanpsyu7339
Жыл бұрын
Seem like a decent church
@jonatanbarrang4353
2 жыл бұрын
I thought they really believe Jesus was born on wednesday, like u use in time stamp!
@ReadyToHarvest
2 жыл бұрын
Oops, haha, that would be funny. Fixed from "born" to "died"
@jonatanbarrang4353
2 жыл бұрын
@@ReadyToHarvest glad brother if it could be fixed. but maybe they could counted as church that officially not celebrated Christmas nor believing Jesus was born in winter season. I also hope for video about COG version of Amstromism. (Philadelpian Church, they claimed to be the Philadelpia church!). i like to read article from CCOG and UCG.
@timothyrowland2050
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Biblical Unitarian, but I'm not a member of either Church of God denominations. I grew up SDA, but they have a number of false beliefs, including the Trinity and a close of probation, neither of which are supported by Scripture, along with a false prophetess, so I gave up the false doctrines and I'm no longer denominational. SDA is mostly accurate about the Sabbath and the state of the dead, but wrong about the 2nd Coming and the post-Advent. Yeshua ("Jesus" is pagan, meaning man-horse), the fully-human son of God who lived a sinless life and won salvation through death for mankind's sins, will return to earth and set up his kingdom and rule for a millennium.
@amapparatistkwabena
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, it’s ADD-ventist, not adVENtist. Thanks!
@ReadyToHarvest
2 жыл бұрын
not so; although this is the common usage in the US, worldwide the pronunciation is much more varied. The largest SDA channel I am aware of (Bible Flock Box) pronpunces it as I do here, and many official videos of the SDA church do as well.
@audreydillon4673
Жыл бұрын
Wrong,they worship on the seventh day they are not Adventist.
@thejewishredneckprepper4675
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your clarity on this cult. They are closer to biblical truth than three god cults,They are binitarion. They are like the jehovah witness.They drop one god for belief in rwo gods. They hold to the ancient heresy of Arianism,
@bibledefinedbymartycozad
Жыл бұрын
very informative, thank you; Problem is that most people do not TEST author to author in the Bible, Paul is a false prophet and James, John and Jude all warn of this. Rev 2:2 is clear and Luke records this in his letter to the pagan judge. Acts was never intended for Christians to read. Jesus warned us in Matt 24:24 not to believe any light in the wilderness, Paul never heard this warning and got his power from a false Christ. Jesus makes it clear in John 17:3 that there is only one God and His spirit came to the only begotten Son on his baptism.
@thetraditionalist
2 жыл бұрын
here before 1000 views
@Perririri
2 жыл бұрын
Normie
@tatekamatipaulus5085
2 жыл бұрын
You are too fast slow down please
@GabrielJimenez-pc3qv
Жыл бұрын
you can use the youtube controls to play it at a slower speed
@gleaalkhatib3880
26 күн бұрын
If the church changes from how Christ set it up -it is no longer Christ church
@BeranM
2 жыл бұрын
I triple dog dare you to do one about the Seventh Day Remnant. They are anti-Adventists, not just non-Adventists. That should be a fun one. One group in particular is the Presents of God Ministry founded by a guy named Nicholas Patula in Indiana. Ellen White is still their prophetess.
@Cienfuegos_100Fires
Жыл бұрын
British Israelism? 🤔
@JigsawPuzzleConnection
9 ай бұрын
Interesting. Guess they don't read the KJV bible but a modern watered down bible. TFS
@rev.stephena.cakouros948
2 жыл бұрын
Is the Holy Spirit a distinct person within the one true God? The answer is yes if Scripture is our guide. The Holy Spirit is not just an afflatus. This is why we read in Scripture that like Jesus, who was sent into the world, Gal. 4:4, the Spirit was also sent into the world, John 16:7. Being sent indicates personality. The Spirit in Scripture is a person and as such “speaks”, 1 Tim. 4:1. The Spirit as a person is referred to with pronouns, John 16:13. The Spirit as a person can also be “grieved”, Ephesians 4:30. The Spirit as a person also strives, Galatians 5:17. In addition, the Spirit has in Scripture along with personality, all the attributes of God, omniscience [Psalm 139:4] omnipotence, [Romans 15:19] omnipresence, [Psalm 139:7-10]; and of course, the Holy Spirit is eternal, [Hebrews 9:14]. The natural or plain meaning of Scripture leads one to conclude that God is three persons in the One Being, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. There is no other God. And so, we read the parting words of our Lord and Savior, ‘’Go ye therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. [Matthew 28:19]
@steveabraham8847
Жыл бұрын
Yeshua (Jesus) did not believe the Holy Spirit was a distinct person. In John 10:30 he stated, "I and My Father are one." He never once said that I and my Father, and the Holy Spirit are one.
@rev.stephena.cakouros948
Жыл бұрын
@@steveabraham8847 You need to do some research. Maybe you need to humble yourself as well. Do you really think that the primitive Church needs your instruction? It preached the Holy Trinity from the very beginning. It labored to show that the Holy Spirit was a distinct person, and it proved as much. People like you CHERRY PICK Bible verses that fit your scheme, but you somehow pass over what flatly contradicts that scheme. You must have a redacted Bible. End of Conversation
@GabrielJimenez-pc3qv
Жыл бұрын
@@rev.stephena.cakouros948 Hi Rev, your tone is not going to lead this brother to communion with you, you are pushing him away. Perhaps respond to his conviction with love, and the word of God, and patience.
@rev.stephena.cakouros948
Жыл бұрын
@@GabrielJimenez-pc3qv You are just accusative. There is the didactic in my comment and no bitterness. You just don't like authority. Schmoozing people accomplishes nothing. Jesus was a teacher and that is what I am doing in my comment, teaching. END OF DISCUSSION
@mattt6838
2 жыл бұрын
They are not connected to the Seventh Day Adventist, accept in the broader Christian fellowship of believers, nor are they connected to the now defunct WWCG. Just a side note of truth. EGW did not start the SDA, but came into it.
@americanswan
Жыл бұрын
This church sounds extremely similar to SDA church.
@Regular_Pigeon
2 жыл бұрын
7th
@Perririri
2 жыл бұрын
Normie
@thursoberwick1948
2 жыл бұрын
7th Day
@xhaxachris7110
4 ай бұрын
The Holy Spirit is God. ❤❤❤❤❤ No thank you. I believe in the Trinity.
@scm98
2 жыл бұрын
So they are Bitinitarian? So not Christian since they deny God's Triune nature.
@isanyoneelseheretoday
2 жыл бұрын
Where in scripture does it say one must affirm the tri-unity nature of God to be saved?
@shishsquared
2 жыл бұрын
@@isanyoneelseheretoday There are many passages in the old and new testament that reveal the triune nature of God. Rejecting His true nature is a very reliable sign of not being a Christian. And while cults of course aren't limited to this, without fail every nontrinitarian group professing to be Christian is a cult
@isanyoneelseheretoday
2 жыл бұрын
@@shishsquared I'm not saying the bible doesn't lead to understanding God to be triune in nature. But specifically, I see on all of these videos people casting other people out of the kingdom for not believing in the mainstream evangelical trinity doctrine and I would like to know where Paul or Peter or Jesus or anyone says you must affirm God's tri unity nature to be a Christian to be saved. God's nature is greater than anything we could possibly imagine and sum up in a neatly packaged doctrine, to be so stubborn as to think your understanding is perfect or complete reeks of pride. I believe in the tri-une nature of God, three distinctions in the Godhead with different roles and operability all of the same divine nature, but its not a perfectly clear doctrine as other doctrines are, and the bible certainly doesn't record that you need to believe that nor even fully understand trinitarianism to be saved. So who are we to cast others out for coming to a different conclusion on "how God is" if they are otherwise affirming the parts of scripture that are clear in regards to salvation by grace through faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus. Acts 16:30-32 KJV - And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. If we cross reference the Word of the Lord that Paul is referencing here with what he shared with the Corinthian church I see no affirmation of "the Trinity" 1 Corinthians 15:2-5 KJV - By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
@brettweier9504
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a trinitarian myself but I don't think it's fair to say anti trinitarians are not Christian. They're heretical but many of them have a genuine faith and love of Christ
@isanyoneelseheretoday
2 жыл бұрын
@@brettweier9504 Right. Exactly this.
@thetraditionalist
2 жыл бұрын
very interesting, they seem to be less whacky than other adventists
@elidavila2258
2 жыл бұрын
We aren’t wacky at all! At least most of us haha! God bless
@bobhenricksen248
Жыл бұрын
Just because there are a few bad apples in the bunch doesn't make them all wacky or there beliefs... The disciples had some misguided beliefs...and Judas was wacky...and James and John were mean spirited wanted to call fire down and burn up some folks... Doesn't mean what Jesus taught was heresy...
@thetraditionalist
Жыл бұрын
@@bobhenricksen248 you can't have seriously compared god to these people
@hectorhernandez215
2 жыл бұрын
Sabbath...they ignore bible evidence original church services were daily.... Acts 2:46-47 Acts 5:42
@316350
2 жыл бұрын
Brother, “church services”? The people gathered together daily, but there was only one day they kept the Sabbath. Going to church and keeping Sabbath are two different things. The saints went to the synagogue the same day they kept the Sabbath. Remember the Sabbath wasn’t about the day you went to church; it was about the day you ceased from your ordinary work. In the initial commandment, the Israelites were commanded to stay at home, in their tents. This is how the term “Sabbath day’s journey” became a common phrase among the Jews of Jesus’ time. The Pharisees and Sadducees would’ve accused someone of traveling too far on the Sabbath if they took too many steps to get to the synagogue.
@316350
2 жыл бұрын
Also, very great guitar playing. God bless you brother.
@Phill0old
2 жыл бұрын
Church services were not daily since there were no church services in the early part of Acts. The Christians meet together daily isn't at all the same thing.
@Peachcreekmedia
2 жыл бұрын
Their open creed is awfully Nicean!
@MultiRm
2 жыл бұрын
If 1 “Church” had all the accurate knowledge , there would be no need of open creed. Even then apostles had open creed.
@JudithSanchez-ht6jn
2 жыл бұрын
Adventist of the 7th Day came from the movement’s regarding the second coming of Christ and a Helen white was one of the leader the others sects are not the real Adventist of 7th day.
@bobhenricksen248
Жыл бұрын
They are the only church that fits the biblical definition of the "remnant church" which is the true Church... Church of God doesn't meet the biblical criteria...
@innovationhq8230
2 жыл бұрын
They are pretty heretical like the just like the SDA. It would be interesting if a video was made on all the weird Armstrongite schism groups.
@americanswan
2 жыл бұрын
SDA is hardly like COG7.
@bobhenricksen248
Жыл бұрын
@@americanswan I know they are more Biblically based in all of their beliefs... Thanks for prompting that
@Meop79
Жыл бұрын
Why do you say they are heretical?
@realzhella6817
Жыл бұрын
@@Meop79none of them are Apostolic churches, Only Apostolic churches can claim any sort of real authority
@Meop79
Жыл бұрын
@@realzhella6817 if you think a human church has ANY authority then you are not a Christian. You are a pagan in Christian clothing.
@davidnacey7281
Жыл бұрын
"[Q]uite different from what our understanding was twenty or thirty years ago..." Wouldn't it be nice if there were a church whose official dogmatic positions don't change and have never changed over the years? Oh, that's right, that would be the Catholic Church, aka the one founded personally by Jesus Himself (Mt. 16:18).
@hectorhernandez215
2 жыл бұрын
No one in hell is unconscious....bible is clear...
@Phill0old
2 жыл бұрын
That's just silly. Firstly there conscious or unconscious state of people in hell isn't routinely discussed in scripture. Secondly when you say hell you need to define what exactly you mean by that phrase. Thirdly since he'll is not there eternal axis of the unsaved that doesn't address the central point of contention. Death and Hell will be thrown in to three lake of fire. Yet those those thrown therein are also, at the same time, consigned to outer darkness, to utter shame and separation from the benefits of God. If it was an clear as you claim I couldn't have said any of that.
@hectorhernandez215
2 жыл бұрын
@@Phill0old not silly..sir...Jesus teachings are clear....a punishment is incoherent if persons are not conscious....and Lazarus story about Abraham and the rich man was not a parable. I don't know which bible are you reading....eternal life and eternal worms in hell over lost people are clear teachings....
@MAMoreno
2 жыл бұрын
@@hectorhernandez215 "a punishment is incoherent if persons are not conscious" So capital punishment isn't punishment? It very much is a punishment, and an everlasting one at that.
@Phill0old
2 жыл бұрын
@@hectorhernandez215 Hi Hector. What was silly was your use of the word hell. That was my main point. Hell is going to be thrown in to the lake of fire, read Revelation. The wicked will also be thrown in to the lake of fire. They won't be in hell. Of course the wicked will be punished, the Bible is clear about that. Their punishment, like their sin, is an eternal thing. Their punishment will not reform or rehabilitate them and it will be unpleasant. What it will not be is "hell" because "hell" is a temporary place. You should be more careful when speaking of these things and use what the Bible says clearly. It clearly says that death and Hell will be thrown in to the lake of fire. They are therefore not the eternal ongoing destinations of the wicked. God bless.
@zekdom
2 жыл бұрын
@@MAMoreno Heh, nice. I still believe in eternal torment, though.
@Peachcreekmedia
2 жыл бұрын
There is much heresy in their theology...they are so close to the Orthodox boundary as to slip over the edge.
@antonralph6947
Жыл бұрын
Another cullt .
@GabrielJimenez-pc3qv
Жыл бұрын
maybe, maybe not, don't judge so quickly lest you be judged
@jamesh410
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the well thought out and researched presentation. As a Pastor in COG7 I like seeing an outside source fairly represent us to others. So many assume we are Adventist, but as you clearly pointed out we are similar but distinct in our formation. God Bless you and your work
@Dsbabbitt1776
Жыл бұрын
What’s up dude! Lol small world huh😂
@jamesh410
Жыл бұрын
@@Dsbabbitt1776 hey man, yeah it is!
@TheWriterWalker
7 ай бұрын
Today is Sunday, February 4, 2024. I've got to do more research, but based on your video, by God I think I have finally found my church!
@eiontactics9056
Ай бұрын
I am happy for you, but please know that in Scripture, "church" isn't something you choose to join. Church is what you are placed into after you are born again by the Holy Spirit after you believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ as revealed by Scripture. Church is the Body of Christ, and once placed in the body of Christ, WE become the body (Church) "Ecclesia" (God's people). These man made institutions are merely congregations. Some of the church (God's people/born again believers) may be in that particular congregation BUT the brand name institution itself IS NOT the church. Refer to Paul's epistles if you want more information. Also feel free to respond to me with any questions you may have.
@TheWriterWalker
Ай бұрын
@@eiontactics9056 Thank you for that clarification, Brother.
@robmullin1128
2 жыл бұрын
There are also Seventh Day Baptists
@watcherwlc53
2 жыл бұрын
What can you find out about the Worldwide Church of God (Armstrongism) and a remnant church, the Restored Church of God
@helinaasante1884
Жыл бұрын
Bro I love u. I typed looking for quakers and now I'm hooked on your videos. How on earth have I never found u on KZitem. Subscribing and liking now. Shalom
@ReadyToHarvest
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@drusauza8291
2 жыл бұрын
Great content, yes very similar to Seventh Day Adventist.
@rexjamerson9316
Жыл бұрын
Actually, they are VERY different from The Seventh-Day Adventist Church. I have attended both, and I can tell you from experience they are not the same!
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