I've started daily driving linux starting this year and haven't heard a more simple and clear explanation of how display servers work!
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment! I’m trying to learn the skill of explaining concepts as simply and clearly as possible. It seems it worked this time. :)
@PyVerse-47
2 ай бұрын
i was searching for years for someone that can explain these technical terms in a non technical way thanks you so much
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@jameleddinelassoued7228
2 ай бұрын
Commenting so I can see more of this on my feed!
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you leaving a comment!;)
@MysteriousFoxy87
2 ай бұрын
Just a comment to pop this video up in the Recommended section :]
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! That’s very kind of you;)
@0x7f2c
2 ай бұрын
It worked
@lazyalpaca7
Ай бұрын
it's freaking worked 😂
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
@lazyalpaca7 😁
@Satseful
Ай бұрын
It definitely worked 😄 and I am happy it worked, because this was interesting video.
@KrishnaDraws
2 ай бұрын
Very informative and clear presentation. Thank you!
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I appreciate it.
@teleprint-me
Ай бұрын
For clarity, the server and client are abstract notions that apply to software, not hardware. The server and client may be run on the same machine or multiple machines. This means the server and client can run on the same machine. The server can also run on a remote, or networked, machine and this is the distinction. This means you can run the server (it is always software) on a networked machine and a client (also software) can run on a separate machine, utilizing a network of machines to transmit information between them.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thanks for clarifying this!
@YBWang-pi9qq
Ай бұрын
So simple and easy to understand. Julia, you are genius to explain complicated concepts, in an easy way.❤
@juliaifrank
28 күн бұрын
Many thanks for your kind comment!🙏🏼
@prashanthb6521
Ай бұрын
This is the best and simplest explanation of wayland I have come across. Thanks Julia.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m really glad you found it helpful.
@kidrock1502
Ай бұрын
Great simple video on Wayland an X11, like the charts and explanations, ur very gifted speaker, I really enjoyed ur explanations very simple and direct, that's a rarity on utube keep up the great work.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words. I’m glad you found the video helpful and clear. Your feedback means a lot!
@Pmt1-u8s
2 ай бұрын
Wayland must support ssh protocol enabling to use application GUI of remote computer ( the way X supports for ssh -X ) ... and it's just one of the most basic features list missing in wayland The apprehension for Wayland is for being half baked and being pushed down the throat with arrogance ! But I highly appreciate your video which effectively explained basic difference in behind the scene operation of display manager ... my 💯 for your effort
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Comments like yours are important for pushing improvements. I try to stay neutral when talking about Linux. I usually love trying new stuff. But I get that sometimes people can get overly excited about new tech and miss out on the issues. It’s not always the Wayland team’s fault, I believe , but users’ overly excited take on the new stuff. Feedback like yours is needed to making things better. Hopefully, they’ll take it seriously and make the necessary changes.
@croxymoc3254
2 ай бұрын
Waypipe exists
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
@croxymoc3254 Thanks for pointing this out!
@gljames24
2 ай бұрын
WayVNC is available and can be run headless.
@dmitripogosian5084
Ай бұрын
Wayland is fundamentally not network transparent, while network transparency was the cornerstone of X11. In that sense Wayland is significant step backwards
@Wes_Jones
Ай бұрын
I'm pretty new to Linux and this description was very easy to understand. Thanks!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@VitisCZ
2 ай бұрын
Given how wayland is supposed to be the new better thing that's supposed to fix all the x11 issues it really isn't thought through enough. Just look at how they abruptly had to pause new feature development to think about accessibility features because they clearly haven't thought about them and the way wayland is designed simply doesn't allow many accessibility features to work at least not in the initial design so they will have to make workarounds. Also adding new features can literally take multiple years because protocols have to be accepted by majority to be accepted. There's literally proposals for super basic desktop features that took 2 years to get accepted. Just a protocol not the implementation. And not to mention it's a protocol so every compositor has to reimplement everything. Yes there are libraries like wlroots but that still doesn't change the fact every compositor is completely independent and has different features and differing protocol versions. So you have one compositor implementing text input v2 but a different one implementing v1 and v3. This is the real situation and it makes things absolute PITA because you're trying to figure out why something doesn't work on one compositor when it works on another just to realize they don't implement the given protocol. So for the time being I'm simply not dealing with wayland. X11 despite it's shortcomings is still the king and will be for a while.
@dra11y
23 күн бұрын
How can I connect with you? Legally blind software dev here who just switched to Linux from macOS. I feel so snubbed by contemporary Linux developers. Accessibility was better in the 90's than today, as at least terminal fonts were reasonable size. Now the v6 kernel supports large console fonts, but they aren't installed by default, so boot screen is terrible. Nothing to do with Wayland, but Wayland has it's own issues, especially not supporting consistent dark theme across all apps (really, it should force GTK apps into the user's theme, not the other way around), and cursor sizes and fonts in Qt apps being way, way too small. Screen readers can't communicate properly (there's a Rust project to build a new screen reader for Linux that I'm hoping to contribute to), and I'm building my own read-on-demand screen reader, because I absolutely must have it to use my computer. No one thinks of these things, then they blame us for bringing up these issues because it gives them headaches. Do they want Linux to be only for hardcore ableist nerds, or do they want mass adoption? I pick the latter. What's good for accessibility is good for all users!
@juliaifrank
23 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience. I can definitely feel your frustration, and I completely agree that accessibility must be taken seriously if pushing for mass adoption. Wayland is still a work in progress in many aspects, and the only way to push for improvement is by speaking up, just as you’ve done. If you’d like to connect further, feel free to reach out through the contact page on my blog or on Instagram. The links are in my KZitem page description and also in each of the video’s descriptions.
@gljames24
2 ай бұрын
"Both are written in C" This is incorrect as Wayland is a standard, not an implementation like Weston, Mutter, etc. A Wayland compositor can be written in Rust like in Cosmic DE, can be compiled to web assembly like Greenfield, or any other Turing complete language as long as it complies to the standard.
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
I meant to say “primarily” written in C. The Wayland protocol itself is written in C, but you’re right that Wayland compositors can be written in various languages. For example, Hyprland uses C++, and others use Rust, as you mentioned. Thanks for pointing that out! I should have been more specific about this.
@mikkelpaulick5689
Ай бұрын
@@juliaifrankThis is not quite right... The Wayland protocol is a standard defined in XML. There is however an open-source reference implementation called libwayland which is written in C.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Ok, thanks for pointing that out. I might have missed that one.
@apmcd47
Ай бұрын
I think what often confuses users is that the X Windows system appears to throw the concept of client and server on its head. A server manages a resource, such as a printer. A client is a user, who through a the use of a software package, such as a word processor, wishes to use that resource. In the 1970s one would use a dumb terminal to run programs on a mainframe or mini computer, which manages the resources of CPU, memory and storage, ie a server. With a graphical workstation the resource, in this case the display/keyboard/mouse, is now local, and with X the client, a GUI software such as a word processor, could be on a remote machine. As you can now see, the concept of which is client, and which is server, depends on context, ie which resource you are talking about.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thanks for this clarification!
@chrisjudge705
Ай бұрын
Best comment ever in this context, sooooo many books and teachers does not deep unterstand or enforce to note this logical reverse approach, this was long ago my first struggle with X. So many thanks for the clarification for next generation of programmers😊😊
@saisantosh3599
Ай бұрын
Good to have found this, better explanation than others out there
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you found my explanation helpful )
@cyberslot
Ай бұрын
Hi Julia! I like your style and decision to represent the exposed information in the process of revealing it by hand on paper. It triggers a different complex of perception mechanisms, even it looks the same as, for instance, animated version at first glance. Also the used conceptual approach to stick to the simplicity. Keep up the great work!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Hi! Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was looking for a simple way to reinforce what I was trying to explain. From my own experience, I usually understand better if there is some kind of visual that goes along with the explanation to help anchor the ideas. So I decided to give it a try. People seem to like it, which I’m really glad to hear. Your feedback really motivates me to keep creating! 😊
@deimanimaciones
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this content, subscribed
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thank you too!
@savagesarethebest7251
28 күн бұрын
I just love how you can run a program on one computer and interact with it on another, or even on your tablet/phone
@michaelmicek
Ай бұрын
In my mind, the key difference between X11 and Wayland is that X11 was originally designed for "physical implementation" (0:50), albeit with client applications running on the "server" (mainframe) and the display server running on the client workstation (a "thin client"), whereas Wayland assumes the client applications and display server are on the same hardware (1:07). For most desktop users this allows Wayland to perform better, but it can't handle the case when they are not.
@CorvusNumber6
Ай бұрын
Thank you! That was short and sweet. Perfect! 👍🏻😎
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it! :)
@Slickstaff_Stainpants
Ай бұрын
great video and it helped a lot. I have hearing issues and even with your accent i could understand you clearly. I hope Wayland provides a much faster and cleaner Desktop.. Windows 10 is buttery smooth and I want that in a Linux. Im learning on Fedora KDE because its given me the least problems.. of course NVIDIA is not helping. I really want Linux to be as good at Direct X or Vulkan (id prefer Vulkan) as Windows. Im a gamer. Windows 11 is looking to be a whole OS full of spyware and I dont want that.
@antonfrank3722
Ай бұрын
I also have Fedora KDE, and after installing the NVIDIA 555.58.02 drivers from RPM Fusion the gaming experience is a lot better.
@vinvivofikas9973
2 ай бұрын
short, to the point and easy to understand. Thank you!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you. Glad it helped!
@古代馬鈴薯
Ай бұрын
I came here to learn Wayland and ultimately actually I learned Ubuntu 24.10 for NVIDIA, that is stunning for me. Absolutely what I love to know.
@SGUsyncgamingusa
Ай бұрын
Great explanation! Very nice breakdown of Wayland. Keep it up!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you!:)
@ThisISNM
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for explaining. Please keep up the good work.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your support. More videos are on the way!
@disnaut4935
Ай бұрын
This helped me so much, thank you very much for making this easy to understand!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
You’re very welcome. Glad it helped!
@DenisNolan
2 ай бұрын
This is great content. Heard so much about Wayland especially via the Linux unplugged podcast, but really have not put my mind to checking it out further.
@tessiof
Ай бұрын
Watching this on Wayland (I use Arch btw)
@GraniteFaun
Ай бұрын
Saaame
@yelircaasi
Ай бұрын
Excellent video! It's makes me happy that content like this exists.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! I’m happy to hear that you enjoyed it.
@chairlovawitabat
Ай бұрын
Great vid thx for the explanation. My friend asked me what Wayland was the other day and I struggled for an explanation. Ima send him this video 😎
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome and thanks for sharing! 😉
@JasmanjotSingh404
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for simple explanation
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@ソク
2 ай бұрын
I'm ur 667th subscriber
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
👍😀
@kanes5105
Ай бұрын
Thanks for explaining Wayland so well.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
You’re welcome! I’m glad it helped.:)
@basvenis
Ай бұрын
Gratefull is found this channel, nice introduction
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your feedback!:)
@bharath2633
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Its on-point and interesting :)
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for leaving the comment! It helps a lot to know how people feel about the way I try to communicate ideas and explain things.
@savagepro9060
Ай бұрын
I stopped by to understand Wayland. I subscribed and became your 1000th subscriber. Bragging rights, for us, both!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
So you understand Wayland now and became my 1000th subscriber. Bragging rights, indeed! 😄
@savagepro9060
Ай бұрын
@@juliaifrank Yep!
@AjayPrashar
Ай бұрын
While I loved the technical content, I especially appreciated the tone, the clarity, and the pace of the video. Thank you for your effort in educating me.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. Your feedback means a lot and motivates me to keep creating more content. Thanks for watching!
@lazyalpaca7
Ай бұрын
awesome content, immediately subscribed ❤️
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thanks for subbing and commenting! Appreciate it.
@eobardthawnemcoc
2 ай бұрын
thank you and looking forward to more videos like this hehe
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for leaving the comment! :)
@eobardthawnemcoc
2 ай бұрын
@@juliaifrank you're always welcome
@tinymanz443
12 күн бұрын
Fantastic video!
@juliaifrank
11 күн бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you liked it:)
@anakinsonone
Ай бұрын
Really good and simple explanation
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your feedback!!
@galporgy
Ай бұрын
The algo brought me here and I liked it! I like your first-principles style of teaching (not surprised you’re a physics student), and appreciate the straightforward delivery without dumb memes and annoying background music. PS: usually it’s physics PhDs moving to finance, not vice versa, so you have done that backwards too! 😄
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video and my teaching style. I wanted the content to be the focus, hence no music etc. So I’m happy to hear you appreciated that decision. I hadn’t realized the finance-to-physics path was backwards until you mentioned it, though I was aware that it is typically the other way around. 😁 Thanks for your thoughtful comment! 😊
@MiBaLinuxTech
Ай бұрын
Thanks for this great Video. Thanks for your work
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
You are very welcome, I’m glad you found it helpful. Thanks for commenting!
@MiBaLinuxTech
Ай бұрын
@@juliaifrank Hi, you make a great job. I have a problem on my linux mintin the morning I remove things from my start application and now I don't have dark mode and all what is displayed is wrong. I thing that have todo with the x11 but I can't fixed. I restart the lightdm service but nothing. Have you any idea? Sorry for disturbing you.
@bsvenss2
Ай бұрын
0:19 It's no battle imho. Wayland is a development/transition of X to a newer, more modern and effective solution.
@Onyx-it8gk
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! It's important to inform (new and old) Linux users of the actual improvements being made, and this video does a great job!
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thanks! :)
@aliefyakin4806
Ай бұрын
I hope more applications support Wayland in the future
@Daoist_Oak
2 ай бұрын
This was very informative and clear. Thank you for providing such quality content. PS: BTW this is just a tangent but you look really similar to my college professor
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words! I’m glad you found the content helpful. And that’s funny about the college professor-I’ve never heard of having a doppelgänger before :-) What is she teaching?
@asknight
Ай бұрын
I've been with ubuntu exclusively since version 20 and have seen Wayland mentioned in tons of release notes off and on, scattered everywhere... and I'm a bit afraid (or ashamed) to admit that I never knew exactly what the heck it does, until now. Thank you!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
No need to be ashamed at all! I was in the same boat for quite a while until I finally took the time to dig into it. Once I felt I had a clear and simple high-level understanding of Wayland ( without concerning myself with technical details ), I decided to turn that into a video. I’ve learned from the feedback that I missed/misunderstood some finer details, but I hope I was able to convey the general idea. Thanks so much for commenting, and I’m happy the video helped!
@asknight
Ай бұрын
@@juliaifrank it definitely helped well enough that you earned that click on the subscribe button! Keep up the great work!
@Chris558576
Ай бұрын
Thank you for this.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@nordmu
2 ай бұрын
Helped me understand, thank you!
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
You are very welcome! I’m glad it helped.)
@Rbourk252
Ай бұрын
Loved the explanation. ❤
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you!😊
@DiegoGZorrilla
Ай бұрын
Very good explanation, it's the first time I get the difference 😅
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad you found it helpful:)
@TomGDrAccessibility
Ай бұрын
Very good explanation, thank you!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad it was helpful.
@ustav_o
2 ай бұрын
really nice explanation. great timing
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@saberell
Ай бұрын
Good presentation!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@J_FiFi
Ай бұрын
Great explanation, more topics would be appreciated ✨
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you! I’ll work on more topics very soon. :)
@fluoriteByte
2 ай бұрын
Its funny how some people saying that wayland is an outsider to the linux ecosystem and that thr x11 devs hate it Even tho x11 devs are the ones making wayland
@MalumeOmega
Ай бұрын
Well presented. Thank you. Tip: Purchase (or make) a light diffuser for your ring light.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you for leaving a comment! As for the light diffuser, I’ll think of something. Is it the light reflection in my glasses that is bothersome or something else? I just want to understand how to improve my videos. Thanks!
@Gurundiaocinac
Ай бұрын
There is this translucid paper used for cooking (cant remember the name) that years ago can be used un front of light src since it tolerate high temps, is just a simple craft. Is white and come un rollos (like aluminium ones).
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
@@Gurundiaocinac Thanks for the idea!💡
@Oodle-ox2vf
Ай бұрын
Excellent.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@geekboy6655
Ай бұрын
Brilliantly explained! Good that the video has appeared in my recommended. Maybe consider recording something about systemd and init :)
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your feedback! Believe it or not, I’m making another batch of videos in a similar style. All because of the success of this one and feedback like yours. :)
@sixpeer
2 ай бұрын
That was well explained!... If Wayland is the future and it eliminates the need for a separate window manager for a display server, does that mean it will eventually make all those window managers like Xfwm, KWin, IceWM, Compiz etc obsolete?.... Need more videos like these! Thanks!
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment! Wayland is designed to be the future of display servers. It can and will certainly impact the use of traditional window managers like Xfwm, KWin, IceWM, and Compiz, but many of these projects are adapting to work with Wayland too (some window managers are being adapted or rewritten as Wayland compositors (e.g. KWin, Mutter), and XWayland serves as a compatibility layer to allow X11 applications, including window managers, to run on Wayland as a temporary solution). It’s an evolving space, so it’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out. I’ll definitely keep making more videos like this. Stay tuned!
@coffee-is-power
Ай бұрын
@@juliaifrankno, X11 Windows managers DO NOT Run on xwayland On wayland the desktop environment's compositor is responsible for managing and compositing the Windows There are wayland compositors like Hyprland which can provide window tiling features and can do really cool effects and animations and are fully customizable and they it is fully stand alone, you can just run "Hyprland" on a TTY and everything starts up
@lobotomy-victim
Ай бұрын
@@coffee-is-powershe never said that x11 wm’s run on xwayland
@coffee-is-power
Ай бұрын
@@lobotomy-victim No, she said "X11 applications, including window managers to run on wayland" which is completely wrong
@lobotomy-victim
Ай бұрын
@@coffee-is-power it’s not, you can run x11 window manager on wayland
@gorrumKnight
2 ай бұрын
Straightforward and informative, kudos! I use Arch btw. 😛
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
Thank you! :) I use Fedora.
@victornikolov537
Ай бұрын
Short and clear. When done!
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your feedback!
@OnyxIdol
13 күн бұрын
Thanks, I installed Mint on a different drive today and hope to be able fully migrate from Windows at the latest when support for W10 ends next year (even though Mint doesn't use Wayland yet)
@juliaifrank
11 күн бұрын
Welcome to the Linux community ;)
@erixIsOffline
Ай бұрын
Thanks❤
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Likewise:)
@sussusamogus7831
19 күн бұрын
great video
@juliaifrank
19 күн бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the feedback.
@iury0x58
Ай бұрын
Great content! Subscribed.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!:)
@NormTurtle
Ай бұрын
we need more ladies in linux 😭
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Agreed! Happy to be here and represent. 😊 Thanks for your support!
@aliefyakin4806
Ай бұрын
I think I saw an oasis
@psi4j
Ай бұрын
Wayland camp 💯
@user-z1u4u
Ай бұрын
👍
@guineapig1016
2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@gregharn1
Ай бұрын
Wayland def sounds like the way to go
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Wayland definitely has a lot of potential and improvements over X11. It’s going to be interesting to see how things develop. For now, it’s a bit of a showdown between the two display servers! 😊
@pravinkumarone
Ай бұрын
Thanks Julia, well explained.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
I’m glad you like it. Thank you!
@ElSenorEls
Ай бұрын
This is good
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
I appreciate your feedback!
@TradersTradingEdge
Ай бұрын
Great explanation, thank you.👍
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your feedback! Much appreciated! :)
@9mmfederalrimmed235
27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. I don't know if Wayland is so nice. Lots of Distros provide rather X11 instead of Wayland and I read there are problems with Wayland. Maybe one likes an old well built workhorse better than the newest shiny car made out of plastic and which falls apart after 2 years. I installed yesterday KDE neon on my Dell SFF desktop (i3-9100, 24 GB RAM 2400 MT/s) and that came preinstalled with Wayland. I had nothing but trouble with crashing an thing called plasmashell. On Wayland I got about 50 plasmashell crashes. Annoying but it did not hinder the use of any App. I run Tuxedo OS on 3 other systems and no problem whatsoever. Tuxedo not even considers Wayland but is preinstalled with X11. Not a single problem now in 3 months on no system. So I figured this is not normal plasmashell crashes that often on KDE neon and I then restarted it with X11. Since X11 is standard now on KDE neon (all up to date), I had not a single crash of anything not even once plasmashell. So Wayland most likely is causing issues on Distros. Tuxedo allways tests all updates before releasing them and I realised they use allways X11 and an older version of Ubuntu kernel. I believe the KDE Plasma versions are the same between my KDE neon system and my other Tuxedo systems. KDE neon seems to provide the latest and greatest from Plasma and Ubuntu alike and Tuxedo is more conservative and provides a bit older versions in order to assure system stability and functionality. But now with X11 I had not a single hic up with my KDE neon system.
@juliaifrank
26 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! It’s true that Wayland can still have some issues depending on the distro and hardware, and X11 might be a better fit in certain cases. Hopefully, as Wayland matures, these problems will become less common. Appreciate the insight!
@Guishan_Lingyou
2 ай бұрын
This was a very clear explanation. I use linux and watch some content about it, but I don't have much of a need to understand what is happening under the hood given how I use it (e.g., I have no idea if I'm using Wayland or X11 right now ;-). That said, having heard a lot about Wayland vs X11, it's nice to actually have some kind of understanding about what people are talking about.
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was trying to achieve with this video. Thanks for confirming that it worked! :-)
@MarcoKrieger
Ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying what is x11 and Wayland and what does both programs do. I might came across some of those hiccups you mentioned. I tested Fedora 40 KDE and Manjaro KDE last month and had some trouble with my dual monitor setup and the painting application Krita. Krita became laggy and crush several times, which wasn't the case before with x11. But that could be a resolved with a patch or update of KRITA. The monitor situation is worse. In general both displays are mislabeled and in consequence of that, I had to mark the secondary monitor as primary to get the task bar on the correct monitor. After a reboot, the settings are gone and had to set back manually. Under x11 my Wacom Tablet works just fine and I just had to install a program for the GUI. It seems that this option is not in place under Wayland. I read about plans to create such a GUI, but that doesn't help right now. I know that you aren't responsible for this, I just wanted to point it out to your audience. Would be interesting to know if this is only a me-problem or does this issues affecting more people.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience in detail! I’m sure some people can relate.
@Viking8888
Ай бұрын
Thank you for pronouncing GNOME correctly. It itches the ol melon 🧠 when people say noam, seeing as G.N.O.M.E is an acronym.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
GNOME deserves to be pronounced with all its letters respected. Thanks for noticing! 😄
@Viking8888
Ай бұрын
@@juliaifrank That's how I feel too! It wasn't named after the little garden demon at all. 😉
@古代馬鈴薯
Ай бұрын
I came here because I only knew Wayland is probably for killing X11 and I like to learn anything I should learn.
@dra11y
23 күн бұрын
This is great from a dev's standpoint, but accessibility is terrible so far in Wayland. It does not respect the need for screen readers to access window information consistently. Dark theme is not consistent in GTK apps, which is terrible for those of us who are light sensitive. And cursors and font sizes in Qt apps are way, way too small. These issues often require countless hours of workarounds on the part of the user. If the architecture of Wayland is so great, why can't the Wayland developers address some of these inter-app communication issues so we can fix accessibility consistently?
@f67739
Ай бұрын
pretty new to linux but so far most packages ive installed when given a choice usually have compatability issues with wayland, plus LXDE still uses X11 and so does everything else, im x11 for now simply because im tired of everything in linux taking 15 steps as is lol
@lipepaniguel
Ай бұрын
Wayland is not limited to C. Smithay, for example, uses Rust.
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Yes, I realize now that I should have been more specific. Thanks for leaving a comment!
@fernandomarsal6268
2 ай бұрын
Interesante
@epiphoney
Ай бұрын
I never heard of it before. Thanks. I hear it has issues with Nvidia video cards.
@MeriaDuck
Ай бұрын
New user since 1994. Still learning 😂
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Haha, that’s awesome! There’s always something new to learn in the world of Linux. 😊
@kwaki-serpi-niku
27 күн бұрын
For me in the way that I understand it, Wayland is comparable to DirectX on Windows. It is a graphics API. You have a desktop environment in Linux, which would be something like KDE or gnome. But you've got to have a graphics platform to manage The 2D and 3D. That's where x11 or Wayland comes in. Wayland sucks though. It creates problems instead of solving them.
@mwont
5 күн бұрын
Wayland is far from ready for adoption
@nodswal
Ай бұрын
You mention Nvidia and wayland, are there times you would need to switch away from one or the other?
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
I didn’t mention Nvidia specifically in this video. But if it helps to answer your question, Wayland is a display server protocol, and Nvidia is a major graphics card manufacturer. Historically, Nvidia’s proprietary drivers had some issues with Wayland support, but generally speaking, the compatibility between Nvidia drivers and Wayland has been improving. Sometimes, users might switch to X11 if they encounter specific issues or need certain features not yet fully supported on Wayland with Nvidia.
@dipi71
Ай бұрын
3:30 Is it possible that you're mixing up display managers (xdm, gdm, lightdm, sddm etc.) with window managers (kwin, compiz, fluxbox)? There's also desktop environments (Gnome, KDE, lxde, Enlightenment etc.). Of all those categories, some already work under Wayland or Xwayland. Some don't. Cheers!
@michaelmicek
Ай бұрын
No, she didn't get into display managers at all.
@lisanalghaib
Ай бұрын
Saudações do Brasil minha cara. I use cachyos btw
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Saudações do Canadá! Obrigada por assistir! 😊
@JasmanjotSingh404
2 ай бұрын
What are your views on Flatpaks are they safe Flatpak vs AUR?!
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
I think Flatpaks are pretty safe since they run in a sandboxed environment. This basically means each app is isolated from the rest of the system, so it can’t mess with files or settings. Even if something goes wrong with the app, the damage is contained within its own little bubble. As for Flatpak vs. AUR, Flatpak works on a bunch of different Linux distros, making it pretty versatile. AUR is meant for Arch Linux and is all about user-contributed packages.
@coffee-is-power
Ай бұрын
@@juliaifrankalso AUR is unsafe because anyone can submit build scripts including malicious ones that can Run as Root, its highly recommended to check the PKGBUILD file of the package before running it
@antonfrank3722
Ай бұрын
Flatpaks are great for apps like Discord, Spotify, etc, that don’t need direct system integration, but for things like some programming IDEs and applications like Steam the permissions can be kind of funky if you have the Flatpak. Apps like Flatseal can help with that, giving you the option to change permissions of every Flatpak application you have installed individually.
@JasmanjotSingh404
Ай бұрын
Thanks for answer!! But flatpaks which are not maintained by original company itself like VLC flatpak Are they safe to use?
@bulentyildiz07
Ай бұрын
when the system run, never touch. 😊
@yogesh193001
Ай бұрын
The issue is with anydesk or TeamViewer etc
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@yogesh193001
15 күн бұрын
@@juliaifrankcan you do a video explaining the network transparency issue and if there are any working solutions for remote desktop with Wayland
@juliaifrank
14 күн бұрын
@yogesh193001 Absolutely! Thank you for the suggestions. Watch out for these videos to be published soon. )
@paleopteryx
2 ай бұрын
Why not improving X11 instead of building a complete different server. protocol, etc? So far my wayland experience was a nightmare and I had to go back to X11. "New" doesn't necessarilly mean "better"!
@soymadip.
2 ай бұрын
Because most of the maintainers are volunteers. And a very old code like xorg is very hard to modernize
@fluoriteByte
2 ай бұрын
All the devs of x11 left to work on wayland, but they still accept merge requests yet no one actually sends them any code
@Lestibournes
2 ай бұрын
The explanation I received was that in order to modernize X you'd need to change so much that it's easier to just start over with a new project.
@CristianMolina
Ай бұрын
X protocol was improved a lot throught decades, but at this point it is really hard to maintain and improve the current X11 code
@no_name4796
Ай бұрын
Because x11 is fucking older then the average politician, has the craziest spaghetti code, nobody fucking wants to even touch it (a wrong move and it will crumble), it lacks tons of features (heck multiple screen cannot have different refresh rates), it has tons of vulnerability which are unfixable (example: you can switch tty, kill the lockscreen, and just access the computer. Not the best thing. Wayland has a protocol where if you do that, you get a red screen of death, thus protecting your privacy) In few words, it's a one big fucking pile of garbage, which the fact it works alone is pure black magic
@Bunuffin
25 күн бұрын
Wayland IS the future... X11 devs are the one working on it, all the "battle" is meaningless.
@dmitrykhangulyan4349
Ай бұрын
Хотел узнать, когда же xmonad протирают на Weyland, но тема осталась не раскрыта 😂
@jeffcauhape6880
Ай бұрын
How widely has Wayland been adopted?
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
Wayland has been increasingly adopted by major Linux distributions like Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, and openSUSE. While it’s not yet universal, it’s steadily becoming the default in more systems.
@MahmudulHasan-wk3qv
2 ай бұрын
I reccomend miro or sozi for these presentations
@juliaifrank
2 ай бұрын
I’ll consider that, thanks!
@JasmanjotSingh404
Ай бұрын
What are your views on thorium browser?
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
I’ve never used it before, tbh.
@JasmanjotSingh404
Ай бұрын
Appreciated just keep uploading new content 😊
@juliaifrank
Ай бұрын
@@JasmanjotSingh404 will do! Working on three other Linux videos right now;)
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