The blood curdling scream of the flat plane just does it for me. It sounds like how sport bikes are supposed to sound imo.
@Beedji
4 күн бұрын
correction : It sounds like sport bikes that you were familiarized with when growing up.
@ramsayward6582
Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. I've owned and rode many bikes in my time. I've had bikes that I've held onto for way longer than they deserved, and others that still make me want to kick myself for selling on. However, the one bike that I honestly can not part with is my 05 R1 5VY. I bought that bike brand new, and I've been close to trading it in for newer litre bikes, but once I hop back on it, it brings a smile to my face and the miles pass by with ease. Being on the wrong side of 50 now I have to admit that my eyesight and reactions aren't as sharp as they used to be, and my old BMW R75 bobber is more sedate on Scotland's country roads, nothing beats a good ole blast on a sports bike on a sunny day.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! I hope I still have your passion for motorcycles when I get to that age. Me and the wife share the same passion togeather so it definitely helps in the long run!
@johnr7022
Жыл бұрын
My personal opinion 2005 2006 Yzf-r1 was the best year period
@ajdinsutkovic4279
9 ай бұрын
@@johnr7022and 2004?
@Mrmarginofsafety
9 ай бұрын
Still doing track days at 69, don't slide into boredom
@JT2JZ
9 ай бұрын
Keep the passion alive 🤘
@alexbeltrao2535
9 ай бұрын
the flatplane sound is enough to make me buy a 15 year old bike insted a new one :D Amazing!!
@Juicybignut00
4 ай бұрын
bought a 2005 yammy blue R1 no regrets! omfg i LOVE this thing!
@rudivn1
20 күн бұрын
100% it has always been my dream litre bike. Qas in my final year of school when the 2007 R1 came out and I will take it over a 2024 R1 any day
@worldtraveler8613
Жыл бұрын
The 07/08 r1 is the sexiest bike of all time to me... Im looking to buy one very soon, by the time someone reads this comment lol
@wherearewe4x442
Жыл бұрын
Same just something to do with the front light
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
The angry wasp look is a classic for sure 👌 🐝
@obriantomlinson2776
9 ай бұрын
What about the 06? And what year you think is the fastest? 6,7,8?
@worldtraveler8613
9 ай бұрын
@@obriantomlinson2776 all the R1s look good. But i just like the 07/08 the best for looks. But i think they got faster every year. The 09 actually got slower because it was so heavy, but because of the crossplane crank the handling got better and that made it easier to ride, which in a way makes it faster
@remocrosato2478
8 ай бұрын
I agree!
@ufcker915
Жыл бұрын
I love how he explained all the reasons why I cannot stand them crossplaned engines..Excellent!!😆😁
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
It definitely has quirks but compensates with endless character. For some people the trade off is not worth it
@skywatch4639
Жыл бұрын
Old style flatplane engine still sounds better when started from cold, it's got that lovely burble.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I think the upgraded exhaust header makes the flatplane cold starts a lot more aggressive sounding than the average bike
@maximilliancunningham6091
Жыл бұрын
I had the 98, migrated to 05. The 98 had more grunt, down low, longer stroke. 05 is noticeably lighter, and with improved aerodynamics, that you notice at highway speeds. The 05 also pulls harder up top, in 6th, than the 98 did, in 5th. I give Yamaha credit also for the seating position and posture, which I enjoy, being very close to identical. Ascetically 98 & 99 are beutiful, and so is 04/05/06. 07 & 08 looks like a characture on 04.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
The 98 was likely carbureted? Hard to beat the down low torque of a properly tuned carburetor. Fuel injection shines in the higher rpm on the newer bikes. Smooth throttle input but doesn’t have the same “punch” so to speak.
@maximilliancunningham6091
11 ай бұрын
@@JT2JZ 98 is, carbs.
@SystemAdministrator1
7 ай бұрын
2007-2008 R1 is faster Check out quarter mile times
@johnreynolds1527
6 ай бұрын
I'll Take that 06 All day Over a Crossplane.. Both Gorgeous Bikes Bro
@DailyDrivenBikes_1
Жыл бұрын
I like bikes that are more raw. You feel more connected to what the bike is doing.
@johnr7022
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 👍
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
After trying my new 2012 aprilia I do agree. The electronics are a bit overwhelming
@joshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Жыл бұрын
This is why the 2005-07 gsxr 1000 will forever be my favorite bike, no rider aids, no abs, no traction control, ride by wire, only A,B, and C mode. and only use A mode all the time, unless I get caught in rain and then switch to B just for a smoother, safer throttle response, but with a power commander installed the throttle is going to do exactly what you tell it to anyways, so if you wreck on A mode you know you messed up, not some rider aid that made the bike do something dumb.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty old school and agree. I do really enjoy older bikes with a simple more raw riding experience. There are a couple specific rider assist features that I do enjoy though like a quick shifter. I enjoy quick shifters so much I’ve thought about adding it to my 2012 r1.
@alphastarcar
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison. I just bought an 09 R1 and I love it. Big difference between my R1 and GSXR 600.
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Right. I love the excitement behind trying a new unique bike like the crossplane. Nothing but smiles over here!
@joshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 600s are nothing in comparison to the gsxr 750s and 1000s. I've had all 3 and the 600s just aren't that great, but the 750 is damn near as good as the 1000. Never had an r6 or r1 but all gsxr and one cbr600rr. It was ok as well but nothing like the 750s or 1000s. I'll never buy another 600. Even if I was to get a naked bike, which I probably will because of back problems and much more comfortable riding position, I still wouldn't go lower than an mt-09 or mt10 or s1000k. Just have to have that lower end torque now. 600s just don't cut it.
@joshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Жыл бұрын
On a dirtbike a 250 race bike has plenty of torque though, so 250 and up is ok.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I agree. The gsxr750 is an impressive unit for the size. I’m with ya. The more low end torque a bike makes the better street characteristics it has. You don’t have to rev it out constantly to use it’s power. If a light turns yellow you don’t have to down shift to get through it, just grab some throttle and it really doesn’t matter what gear your in.
@scottyj1070
2 жыл бұрын
I'm buying the 2009 R1 tomorrow, hopefully I get along with it, excited 😁
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
I’m excited for you! They are an absolute blast to ride 🤘
@scottyj1070
2 жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ bit worried about it not having any bottom end for the slow riding now though lol
@scottyj1070
2 жыл бұрын
Was between 2007 and 2009 so picked 2009
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Even with the quirks of the Crossplane engine I still enjoy it more than all of my previous bikes. It’s still a power house don’t worry!
@scottyj1070
2 жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ nice! Thanks for replying, great video man 😎
@vasilisgreen
9 ай бұрын
the bottom end being poor is not caused by the firing order. Firing order affects responsiveness and power delivery, not power/rpm. That's the top end setup, the way it's cammed and timed along with its exhaust design and intake valve size. It really has nothing to do with the firing order. Your power band is affected by those factors, assuming you compare engines with the same cylinder dimensions.
@swagger897
2 жыл бұрын
Biggest thing I notice with my 09 that is quirky is the modes. A mode is the only mode I can smoothly rev-match with, since STD and B mode are delayed, it throws off the shift time relative to the blips. I'm not scared of A mode itself but I do think it's quite comical that only a minute amount of throttle can get you to 100 (mph) so fast.
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
I agree the power modes are a little quirky. I find power mod A is so touchy the first 1/8th throttle making it more difficult at parking lot speeds for no reason. Then the other two modes are very laggy and under powered for sure. When I want to wheelie I find power mode a is so touchy it’s hard to not be twitchy. The other power modes don’t have as much punch to bring the front end up as quick as I like in the lower rpms.
@swagger897
2 жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ Yeah slow speed and from stop-to-rolling movement is definitely a bit weird on this bike. I notice mine seems to have a peculiar sound I haven't heard before coming from the clutch that sounds like metal slapping almost, and you can feel it shudder through the whole chassis and into the bar ends. I have no clue how to wheelie though lol, I can only manage power wheelies when I bring the front up when going over a subtle crest while in first. I still don't think I've gone to 100% throttle yet while in 1st as well. I've debated doing the R6 throttle tube mod and then riding around on standard/B mode a bit to test it out, as I don't like how much wrist movement is required to go from 0-100%. Just worried about slow speed maneuvering at that point.
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
My bike shudders pretty good if you don’t give it enough rpm from a complete stop letting the clutch out as well. The crossplane almost wants to stall in the low rpm when loaded unlike other flatplane bikes that are pretty smooth down low. I’m no master at wheelies either but I do like to play around a bit here and there. Still getting the feel for the bike as I’ve only had it for a season. These throttles do have a long range of motion I don’t blame you for wanting to try that mod on your r6. I don’t know anyone with it so not sure how much they would improve the riders input / feel. Definitely let me know if you pull the trigger on it!
@user-by5ud2hf1p
2 жыл бұрын
Mine is stuck on A mode I can’t change it to B mode. How can I fix that?
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Possibly just a faulty switch but it would take more diagnoses to know for sure.
3 ай бұрын
I have a R1 05 for a long time, its been my bike for 13 years and I was considering seriously a 09 plus r1.. so I feel so much what you said, about "being my bike for so long, need to try something new" and even tho you chose to keep your crossplane.. your review definitely put me out of the crossplane game, no low end torque, heavy weight, thick as a brick, high mpg, low range even with bigger tank, less smooth engine ? sorry I am not going to downgrade all that just for sound.. or for change for the sake of it.. and what else? there was a time in the last decade of novelty, sure, but they are both old bikes now.. can you justify all that just for sound and tc? I can't (ps: the 05 is super long geared, 100 mph in 1st, that really takes away from the midrange grunt. I run a 15 gear front sprocket, some velocity stacks , a power commander and that mid range really come on strong.) not cope.. I still want a new bike, 13 years is enough, but just want a better bike ALL around. thank you for your review.
@JAMMAJ-cq2bl
4 ай бұрын
Flatplane all the way😂 Tried and true😃
@JT2JZ
4 ай бұрын
They are more reliable that’s for sure!
@Chaitanyaworld2692
Жыл бұрын
2007 r1 was and is best 👍💯
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I like your style 👌
@Chaitanyaworld2692
Жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ 🙂🙂
@rudivn1
20 күн бұрын
2006 all the way. I have hated the new R1 Sound for 15 years. Absolutely HATE the crossplane. I wish Yamaha will go back to the midd 2000s sound of the bike, that id what everyone loves about a bike. I dont care too much about the latest technology when it comes to bikes.
@АндрейМарк-ч1х
Ай бұрын
This guy is asking for a fuel gauge on a supersport, lmao. Most sport bikes don't have one, good morning bro. They are intended for track use and are homologated to the bare minimum necessary to have them road-legal in most parts of the world. Fuel gauge is definitely something you DONT need on a track bike. If you choose to commute or travel on a supersport, you're actively choosing to handicap yourself in many ways, so don't complain about it. Don't like it, get a proper road bike. Features like Traction control is something you could use on a track, on bad weather conditions. Fuel gauge is never required. Apart from that, good video/overview of the two bikes :)
@jamesz9377
2 жыл бұрын
Its easy bro..send ur ecu to mr chris moore,Moore Mafia,it removes all restrictions and smoothens it out..not to mention it adds around 20hp to the tire😉
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a huge gain! I’ll have to check him out. Thanks
@СергейСС-ы6ы
2 жыл бұрын
great video!!! but you forgot to say about 14b clutch))) sometimes can start sounds like an old shape ducati bike clutch))) but its something normal for that bikes)) my 09 after a lot of drag racing now is like with dry ducati clutch))) that damn springs what are inside in the clutch are start loose a bit))
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
That’s something I didn’t know. Thanks for the info 👍
@HolySpiritMessenger
2 ай бұрын
2007-2008 Best year. After that they look more like robots with the front lights. And demon eyes later in the newer years. No thanks.
@justingreene3667
2 жыл бұрын
you are a lot better of a reviewer than a lot of others.
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. I try to touch on things that other people don’t mention
@justingreene3667
2 жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ great job. will be coming back for more videos!
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support. I do have a lot more video ideas. Just need to find the time to make them.
@darkknight17
Жыл бұрын
I've got the crossplane 2010 R1and had the 2008 screamer. I prefer the size and looks of the 2010, but the 2008 engine was super linear and easier to ride fast. It felt effortless to ride in traffic, in very low down RPM in residential areas and carparks and safer to ride wet frosty winter weather too. The 2010 R1 sounds good, handles better but I do miss the screaming butter smooth engine of my old 2008 R1. You could hear me from 1/4 mile away.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I do agree. The flat plane engine just runs so smooth at any rpm you never have to think about what gear you’re in. Makes life very simple. Mechanically they are easier to work on and more reliable in my opinion as well. But damn nothing puts a smile on my face like the Crossplane at the end of the day!
@darkknight17
Жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ This was a really good video you did, and I have not seen many on the entirety of KZitem comparing the flatplane vs crossplane. I actually watched your video 3 times it was that enjoyable! I bought a brand new left over 2010 R1 in 2018, with only 3 miles on the clock from a Yamaha dealer. I have since done almost 11k on it. My previous 2008 R1 I had from new and racked up 60k miles on it. I did have one major issue - and that was the magnets on the stator melted. Apparently a known fault to Yamaha. I had to spend £3k on a full engine rebuild as the magnets had ended up inside the engine. As an owner of the 2010 R1 I would say: Pros: 1. Better ergonomics. 2. Better handling, despite being a heavier bike on paper it feels incredibly light and agile. 3. Smaller dimensions, better styling. 4. Addictive exhaust note Cons: 1. Cam chain tensioner rattle on start up 2. Heavy compression requires a powerful battery - for me a Lithium battery solved my intermittent start up battery drain issues. 3. Clutch is grabby and inconsistent. Can be fixed with the Graves Motorsports Clutch kit. 4. Engine is lumpy when riding slow. The bike HATES to be ridden slow - especially residential streets and car parks and requires a lot of clutch slip. 5. Questionable rear tyre grip in wet and cold conditions - I cannot feel the limit of the grip especially in cold wet or frosty weather as I could the 2008 R1. 6. Addictive sound makes you THINK the bike is better and ignore the short comings. 7. Aggressive seat angle, pushes you too forward against the tank. Usual upgrades: 1. Alarm and immobilizer 2. Full Akrapovic system 3. Air Filter 4. Lithium battery 5. Suspension set up to my weight 6. Michelin Power 5's 7. Renthal Grips 8. Renthal Bars 9. Bar End Mirrors by RhinoMoto 10. Stomp Grip Tank Grips 11. Vinyl High Grip Seat I'd add the engine braking is weird. On the 2008 R1 I found myself using the engine braking into corners. On the 2010 R1 I find the engine braking feels more like the bike is coasting into corners rather than slowing down.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I’m very happy you enjoyed the video and got some value out of it! Makes the effort on my end all worth it.
@jedslather
Жыл бұрын
07-08 are the best model in my opinion, and with a bit of tweaking it's like F1 engine ripping through the gears.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
The 07-08 R1 was probably the best rounded and reliable bike for Yamaha. Very solid units that’s for sure.
@stestar09
Жыл бұрын
Mines an 08 model , has your 07/08 got 6 pot front brakes like the crossplane? I'm trying to work out if they've been swapped by previous owner on my 08 version
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I think that is a stock caliper on the 07/08 as well
@remocrosato2478
8 ай бұрын
I have two: one 07 and one 08 R1, both race prepared: crazy bikes! Maybe one of the best bike of all time!
@Inkythegoat
2 жыл бұрын
That 2012 is hard to find, Rare Raven ugh so good
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
It took me a few years to find it but I’m glad I did! Definitely my favourite bike to date.
@1881hardcore
2 жыл бұрын
The factory seat comes with a allen key for the main seat built in. Found that out the other day (09-14)
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Where is the built in location? Because the tool kit is under the main seat and you need the Allen key to take the seat off to get to your tool kit! Maybe my bike is just missing the Allen key
@Shadow0fd3ath24
2 жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ passenger seat underside has a slot for the allen wrench(not key), take it off with the key and there it is. No need to go near the toolkit
@alitayyaryarar7556
7 ай бұрын
Do you think if I try to swap old model with newer crosplane facelift body to look newer, is it gonna work? They have the same frame and body right?
@JT2JZ
7 ай бұрын
Yes I have seen it done before. The 2012-2014 R1 headlights do fit on the older 2009-2011. It’s a very nice upgrade 👌
@flukemasterbrake2143
7 ай бұрын
How can i connect my 2010 r1 to read the ecu wheres the port i couldnt find it
@Waltari71
Жыл бұрын
I have rebuild -08 flat and 178 fwhp, loving it. i have before 5 valve -06 but this -08 is awesome
@remocrosato2478
8 ай бұрын
I have two R1, one 07 and one 08, both race prepared. Awesome bikes and fantastic engine!
@callumsimpson858
2 жыл бұрын
I might be wrong but on the crossplane r1 is the front tyre on backwards as it looks like it would dispense the water under the tyre instead of throwing it out words just wondering bud
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
It does look that way from a distance but it is installed the correct way. I double checked after your comment! Lol
@kbetancur
9 ай бұрын
I currently have a 2012 r6 not much tech on the bike which i really enjoy and it has been very reliable. I just am looking for more information before I buy an r1, which year r1 would you recommend on getting that is very reliable from 2004-present?
@JT2JZ
9 ай бұрын
The r6 is probably the most reliable bike around in my opinion. As far as the r1 goes. 2004-2008 would be more reliable. I owned a 2006 R1 for many years with high kms and zero issues. My 2012 R1 has been my absolute favourite bike to ride but it has needed the most repair work.
@jacobhendrickson8935
4 ай бұрын
I don’t think the 5vy looks dated at all.
@SepuluhSeptember
7 ай бұрын
So detail, thank you bro! Looking to buy R6 or R1 2012.. and i thing i will go to R6. I think R1 2012 is too beast for me... I love low RPM
@JT2JZ
6 ай бұрын
They are both amazing bikes at the end of the day. You really can’t go wrong with either of them.
@myronburrows8804
Жыл бұрын
🏍🔥🔥💙🔥🔥 I love the blue badass flames mate. I'm guessing with the older R1 the flames are orange 🏍🔥🔥🧡🔥🔥
@myronburrows8804
Жыл бұрын
29:32
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
The old R1 never backfired or made any flames at all. It ran very clean so to speak.
@lizzardwizard2000
21 күн бұрын
Funny- your idea about crossplane low end torque is completely opposite to the physics and design.
@JT2JZ
20 күн бұрын
I think Low end and mid range get confused with a lot of reviews. These engines really don’t run efficiently until the mid range. They do make alot more torque in the mid range though!
@jsloan5216
Ай бұрын
crossplane all day. It's a half an american v8. sounds amazing and you will definitely not sound like a sewing machine as all the other inline 4's do. be unique and sound amazing doing it.
@JT2JZ
Ай бұрын
Hell yeah 🤘
@ke0kie
Жыл бұрын
more like CROSS-BOOM. My lovingly owned 2009 11k mile motor blew, like many other cross-planes. Just say no to CROSS-BOOM!
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Definitely low kms for a catastrophic failure. I would not be happy!
@tkx86
4 ай бұрын
2007-2008 were my absolute faves... I have my eye on a 2008 atm. They will be collectors bikes. The older bikes look better and sound better. I am for more mechanical and less electrical features, as cool as it is.. On a side note, thank you very much for the video comparison, it was so well presented. It only reinforced my position on getting a 2007-2008 R1.
@JT2JZ
4 ай бұрын
07-08 are legendary bikes for sure! You will be extremely happy with it.
@racingislife7916
2 ай бұрын
The cross plane sounds choppy anyone who says “oh the great V8 sound” lol go get a demon or corvette. Bikes are meant to have that flat plane sound imo sound so much more mean and aggressive.
@JT2JZ
2 ай бұрын
The sound in person is a lot different than in videos online.
@NudaMan
2 жыл бұрын
i see these as collectibles lol, will have to get one of each for sure!
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
They are getting harder and harder to find that’s for sure!
@otisdriftwood8469
2 жыл бұрын
I do to, can't sell them lol.
@Chrisnuzzo76
Жыл бұрын
Power mode A is 30% more throttle. STD is standard or average. B mode is minus 30%, AKA Rain Mode. It's most practical to ride daily in traffic in STD mode. If you are making a U Turn in A mode you can accidentally give it to much gas and turn too quickly, which happened to me and I went 1 lane too wide. Mine defaults to A Mode, not STD mode. I have to remember to switch it to STD.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
A mode is definitely sensitive with tip in throttle. I wish mine defaulted to A mode and not standard though. Your bike must be tuned then I assume?
@Aiden-me2zs
7 ай бұрын
My dad has a 07 R1, it’s no cross plane sound buts it’s still cool
@JT2JZ
7 ай бұрын
2007 is still a very good year for the R1
@paulboyle8522
Жыл бұрын
What about starting? Any significant differences, especially in the cold
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Flatplane always starts perfect any temperature even with a small battery. Crossplane is almost always hard starting in any temperature. A good oversized lithium battery is a must!
@bazuquinharev6130
3 ай бұрын
you still have the 2012 one? you regret selling the 06?
@JT2JZ
3 ай бұрын
Sold the 06 and don’t regret it. I also just sold the 2012 R1 and I do regret it. Was hands down my favourite bike to own and ride even with the issues it had. I replaced it with a 2012 aprilia RSV4. It’s a cool bike but will never replace the Crossplane!
@jean-claude9979
2 ай бұрын
Flat plane world😊
@tttmaker
2 жыл бұрын
Did you know when the low fuel light comes on a F-trip meter comes on and that's the fuel trip count to 35miles till u out of fuel
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never pushed my luck that far but that is a decent size reserve
@stestar09
Жыл бұрын
Used mine yesterday for its first decent run out & its actually good on fuel coming from a B1H 636 that was 200miles a tank good 👍
@Tampa_tom
7 ай бұрын
I have done 30 miles with the light on before
@IN_ZANE_
2 ай бұрын
Hearing the comparison of the different engine characteristics was interesting. The issue you describe with initial throttle opening off to on, isn't that something that can be tuned out by a good tuner? I hope so, I'm considering an '07/08 R1 which is a flat crank but afaik it's also one of the earlier ride by wire/electronic throttles. Coming from a late model GSXR750 (totaled) I'm hoping the '07/08 R1 will be similar riding experience and the ride by wire will be more of a benefit without having any negative impacts, not sure if tuning will smooth out the throttle enough to make it worth while, gaining auto blip would be cool but not at the expense of throttle feel. It's just so hard to know without riding, so trying to do some research atm. If all else fails I'll be happy with another 750. Maybe I should check out the '06 as well.
@JT2JZ
2 ай бұрын
I did get my Crossplane tuned by bauce racing. Throttle input was buttery smooth after so don’t worry to much!
@IN_ZANE_
2 ай бұрын
@@JT2JZ Good to know thanks
@wade998
Жыл бұрын
flat plane all day with the F1-lke howl.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
🤘
@LiviuXSA
2 жыл бұрын
all in all you make it sound like the crossplane sucks when compared to the older one. everyone seems to say the 06-09 were the best.... i kinda get the feeling you're saying the same thing too
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
I do miss my 2006 R1 some days. Reliability wise I would definitely say the older bikes are better but even though I have had multiple issues with my new crossplane it would be hard to go back in my opinion. Once you try a Crossplane they are a pretty unique addictive ride.
@vicpnut1
Жыл бұрын
You put bikes in the house when you have a garage ? My bikes lucky to get a cover when I know weathers coming 😬🤷🏼♂️…then again I live in apartment and my bikes not an R1…R1 little brother (09FZ1) which someone dropped /small lay down b4 I got it ….nice stable there ,to bad old ones leaving .I believe it’s the engine that went into my FZ1 and it’s a quick ride fo’sho’ !….
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Ya I enjoy having the bikes inside over the winter. It also gives me more space in the garage for winter projects like when I built my 750whp Toyota supra.
@vicpnut1
Жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ you’re living my dream life 😬👍🏼🤘🏼✌️
@jeremiahbuck5191
Жыл бұрын
@@vicpnut1 only have one life, have to make the best of it!
@ivandanvervittali3817
Жыл бұрын
you should have used the R1 2007 - 2008 which has the same brakes and more power lol
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
In a perfect world I would love to own more bikes. My finances don’t agree though lol
@stestar09
Жыл бұрын
Ah so the 08 r1 has 6 pot brakes ? Its what i have & i thought a previous owner had swapped them out because the 06 looks the same as mine but the brakes on mine are 6 pistons each side
@ivandanvervittali3817
Жыл бұрын
@@stestar09 not just the brakes, some small engine ccomponents, the body, brake light, coolant reservoir etc. Looks the same but not'
@CsniperC
2 жыл бұрын
i had 2008 black and 2012 gray i loved 2008 ... i will never buy crosspalane again...
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Did you have a bad experience with the Crossplane? The 2008 was a very good year for Yamaha.
@CsniperC
2 жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ önlu with sound.its like mt 07.i hate that sound..riding is better but sound is more important in city for me
@fortitudevalance8424
12 күн бұрын
Crossplane all the way.
@JT2JZ
12 күн бұрын
My brotha 🤘
@jakeR1954rr
Жыл бұрын
Looking at my next bike being an r1. I have a cbr 954rr currently. My backup bike is a little vstar 650. Looking to replace the vstar. I got to say, I think the 06 r1 looks way better from the side view. I like the side fairing and swingarm much better on the 06. Love the modern cockpit and top yoke on the newer one though. My 954rr has the exhaust servo valve deleted with a full system but its got no tune to compensate as the power commander shit the bed. Down low is crappy but once you get moving it takes off beautifully. I had a Triumph Sprint St 1050 2009 and that thing with some mods took off from a stop wonderfully. It just pulled clean and balanced feeling from a stop. I really do miss that. I like to take off at the light... I hate having that short stumble before I get flying on my 954rr. Not sure if it just needs a tune or if its just largely the nature of the bike... I have dumped too much money into it and want something new with my money. I think I will be getting a flat plane older model and making her fresh and pretty.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I think you will enjoy the flatplane r1 with your riding style. I do miss my 2006 some days. It was a very well rounded and reliable unit.
@stestar09
Жыл бұрын
@JT2JZ i too love the top yoke on your crossplane & the front lights look great on it too , as said above , the side view of the engine on the 06 model looks better , I've got the 08 model & it looks the same as your 06 model but my brakes look like the crossplane type ones , dod they change them or has a previous owner done so ? Are they interchangeable between both your models there ?
@jakeR1954rr
Жыл бұрын
Funny to get a notification on this and see my old comment. I got an 05 r1. It was butt ugly, had messed up forks, put all new plastics and carbon on it. Ended up hitting a deer on the highway, just barely clipped him on the left side. Rebuilt it again. All in the span of the last few months lol. I will say, I think my 954rr is definitely the better bike all-around, for me. But for taking a bike out on the weekends and having fun, the r1 definitely wins. It's a bit faster and feels very stable. The 954 handles and flicks way easier though and is way more comfortable for in the city. Tried raising the bars on the r1 to match the 954 (bout an inch difference) and didn't like it's effect on handling. The seat height really needs to stay high in proportion to easily shift around it's weight. The r1 does seem to have more low end torque, and it keeps pulling when the 954 would begin to peter out. I still would pick the 954 if I had to have one and one only, but now that I have both, I can't imagine having only one lol. Great bike, love my r1
@brdllc
11 ай бұрын
@@jakeR1954rrover time have you gotten more used to the r1 handling wise? I’m torn between an 08 r1 and a 954rr.
@dylanglave7879
2 жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t have to downshift if you were in six gear on the freeway I stay in fourth or fifth year unless I’m doing 130+ then I hit six gear between 100 120 4th and 5th gear is perfect
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Ya that’s definitely its happy rpm range. I use the bike a lot for long distance rides though. I need the fuel mileage or else I won’t make it when there is no fuel station for nearly 200kms I’m a few spots local to me.
@luislongoria6621
5 ай бұрын
A thirsty Yamaha? I had to do some digging to find out the old VMax got discontinued. I could see how some riders aren't looking for that kind of Yamaha
@Critastic
Ай бұрын
My buddy has an 07 R1 and when I was moving that thing around in his garage it felt like a 600! I have a 2018 s1000rr and it seems a little heavier for sure.
@desantos1234
2 жыл бұрын
YESSS, thank you for the video mate, I remember asking a couple months back, im glad you did it :)
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
No worries! I’ve been meaning to for a while now but wanted to get some seat time on the new bike before I finished the video.
@garvincollins8632
7 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you for the clear descriptions of bith bikes. I want to get a new cross-plain before they stop making them. I love the way the new ones look. I also love the way R1's corner. I had a 99 and an 07. The 99 was a beast and the 07 was a screamer. Both were exhilarating in their own way.
@JT2JZ
7 ай бұрын
It will be a sad day if they discontinue the R1 just like they did with the R6 already. If they have an all black final edition I would be tempted to buy one! I absolutely love the Crossplane R1. Probably the most fun bike I have owned.
@highwayman1218
Жыл бұрын
Always have had a few bikes and currently 5 in the garage. My last R1 was an 04 and sold it in 12. Ive been kicking around adding another R1 and hitting trackdays again. LOL, Im not paying 23k for a 22 here in So Cal. Looking at another 04 thru 06 or CP R1. Id prefer a 15 or newer with the last major refresh. So what is your opinion on what you'd go with nowadays? Yep, still remember that 04 being a top end bike. I remember getting smoked everytime on roll ons by my buddy with a 04 ZX10 at the time.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Honestly my 2006 R1 was my best most problem free bike. Just hop on and ride, no worries of break downs or future repairs. My 2012 R1 has been my favourite bike to ride but the most problematic. So pick your poison. If you are handy with a wrench I do love my Crossplane..
@highwayman1218
Жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ I do my own wrenching and the CP is most likely the route I'll go this time. 👍
@jacobhendrickson8935
4 ай бұрын
They went back to the old style calipers in 2015 for a reason. They are better, plus they are lighter.
@jacobhendrickson8935
4 ай бұрын
I’ve always thought the 04-06 and 07-08 has a better top end rush.
@generaldistrust
2 жыл бұрын
28:47 (startups & sound demonstration)
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@sokegame8788
Жыл бұрын
If you're in 6th gear at 4k rpm in traffic that's your answer honestly. Shouldn't be in 6th gear. All the down low issues aren't on a graph so it's really on the rider and not knowing how to ride the bike. Never experienced any of those issues on my 09
@Slimdawg2011
10 ай бұрын
Comparison was soo good I had to watch it twich. Currently riding a Zx6r but considering crossing over to yamaha. Just not sure if I should go for crossplane or an 08. This vide helped a lot.
@JT2JZ
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. I’m glad I could help. In simple terms the 08 will likely be more reliable. The Crossplane has been my favourite bike to ride though ( worth the hassle in maintaining if you can afford it )
@CJRSBK
8 ай бұрын
Get a zx10r there just more exciting and faster
@JT2JZ
8 ай бұрын
I am tempted to try one. Used zx10 seem to be a lot cheaper than Yamahas.
@CJRSBK
8 ай бұрын
@JT2JZ not really cheaper ....the big bangs hold good money but in terms of speed zx10r always been faster than R1's but I would say cosmetically yamaha are built better
@CJRSBK
8 ай бұрын
@JT2JZ mind you I'm in uk so prices might be different in USA
@sparkthego
5 ай бұрын
Great video, but on the fuel gauge, actually a fuel gauge is less advanced tech with the floating lever, compared to non fuel gauge temperature sensor system.
@leonarddenicker5852
2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you are selling the 06
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
I was yes but it already sold
@ashiksabu05
4 ай бұрын
Does that crossplane have abs?
@JT2JZ
4 ай бұрын
No
@haiderali-wn1sn
Жыл бұрын
I've go the 2010 big bang in blue white, it is lumpy at low revs and smoothens out at higher revs, but at the top revs its not as fast as other litre bikes. s100rr '23 model, has power in all gears and pulls your hands, the R1 pulls your whole body as the torque pulses are less. but I had more excitement on the R1 the s1krr felt boring to me, I didn't upgrade, waiting to try a new R1 the garage told me its not like my 2010 R1, My bike feels like riding a twin in sport bike format. But if you put it in A mode it does have bottom end so I don't agree with him fully, although on sprints against twins and street bikes yes you will lose unless your racing to a 100, once you get a to 60 you can reign them all in with the big bang. I tried changing to a bigger cogs for wheelies and she becomes f'ing dangerous as mine doesn't have abs or traction control , u got to use the clutch to control at low revs by feel, so on the track I have to use 'b' mode or standard and as it gives you a thumpy acceleration its hard to place on the track. Newer bikes are lighter and you can throw them more than the R1 unless you are a bigger guy. So screamer engines better on track and pull linearly the r1 14b is thumpy and gives u a shunt. This makes it it way more fun to ride and exciting. Also you can set which power mode it starts up in, its in the manual, JT2JZ doesn't know I changed mine to default to A mode. The rear seat/racing cover does have a slot for a small allen key, turn the seat upside down and u will see it.
@Knight___rider
8 ай бұрын
Where are you from? P.S amazing comparison
@strongarmmuzik
3 ай бұрын
There’s no bike that sounds like a crossplane crank.. unbelievable sound! I owned a 2010 for 10 years.. awesome experience. This first generation crossplanes sweet spot is between 7 and 12k rpms is was designed to go through the corners faster then the flatplanes bikes in moto gp.. mid range corner speed won Valentino Rossi championships on this version r1. The other bikes manufactures started putting massive amounts of hp to beat the r1
@JT2JZ
3 ай бұрын
The midrange torque is definitely my favourite part!
@johnrenehan7406
8 ай бұрын
The cross plane has less low down grunt ??? Like you ve just said the opposite to all others ! I mean - ive ridden an 12" year model around the track - out of corners it had heaps of torque right from 2 k rpm ...... Certainly more than my 2005 R1
@JT2JZ
8 ай бұрын
The Crossplane has really good torque in the mid rpm but does not run as efficiently as the flatplane crank in the very low rpm’s say 2000-4000. Most people don’t ride at that low of rpm’s
@Vtwin_Superbikes
Жыл бұрын
If you are waiting for a gap to pass someone then drop a gear and pick the revs up 🤯
@gw4717
Жыл бұрын
You want to experience something crazy fast best bike in the hole dam world 🌎 to ride a 2020 zx10r blow your mind I've had every r1 every bike and nothing compares to riding my 2020 zx10r freaking amazing 👏
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
They are awesome value for the price as well. Hopefully one day I can try one
@Scythe_Voltage
Жыл бұрын
I found a 2006 yellow special edition 5,400 miles for 5,800$, I was about to buy it and watched video of drag race 2014 vs 2006 and have never seen a 1000 get smoked so bad, wasn’t even a race
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
They are both good bikes at the end of the day. The Crossplane is an absolute riot to ride though! Definitely my favourite bike to date
@dabrula
Ай бұрын
My experience: Flatplane: not happy under 4.5k rpm's. Rocket ship on the top-end. Ram air effect noticeable above 100mph. Street-legal race bike. Crossplane: castrated motor from out the box. Needs a tune immediately. But more linear power. Happy everywhere in the rev range, especially from 5-8k rpm's. Heavier bike and stock suspension is awful.
@SOUVIK_RAY_
Ай бұрын
I was wondering the same. I have heard that the crossplane R1 is very responsive in lower rev range and looses out power at top end. While the flat planes are laggy in lower rev range but very powerful at top end. Isn't that true?
@dabrula
Ай бұрын
@@SOUVIK_RAY_ I couldn't agree more. But the one thing I never had done to my bikes was a dyno tune, and this always reveals the true nature of the motors.
@SOUVIK_RAY_
Ай бұрын
@@dabrula Oh ok! So I am planning to get a 2015+ R1 and I wanted to feel the power rush that it provides early on and offcourse the cross plane sound. I myself own a 2017 ZX10R and looking to switch. By the way, any particular issue with R1 that I should be aware of?
@dabrula
Ай бұрын
@@SOUVIK_RAY_ that generation of R1 experienced some changes in the motor. It makes more power out of the box than my 2011, but they shifted the power band up the rev range just a little so it doesn't have the low-to-mid-range of the previous generation cross-plane motor. This really isn't that much of an issue though, because they also made the bike a lot lighter so it doesn't need all that torque anyway. But if I were you, I'd get the ECU flashed immediately by someone like MooreMafia (check him out on KZitem). The R1's are infamous for having a binary throttle (always wide open or always closed) and a good tune usually eliminates this, making the bike way more controllable. It also adds power (OEM tune is crazy restricted). If you get the bike, flash the ECU, and realize you want more low-end, go up a few teeth on the rear sprocket. '15+ R1's have automatic speedometer adjustment too so it won't be a problem. Beyond this, get yourself set up well with the suspension settings and make sure it has a sticky ass tire on the rear with a profile that fits your riding type. I ran Pirelli for a while and always go back to Michelin. Stuff like this makes more of a difference than the bike itself a lot of times. That Kawi is a beast. Straight widowmaker, especially with a tune. But once you go cross-plane or V4, it's hard to go back. The power is just so tractable. My '05 would spin the rear tire in the wet all day long. My '11 hooks up and wheelies in the rain. It's wild. Best of luck with your purchase, stay safe out there.
@SOUVIK_RAY_
Ай бұрын
@@dabrula Hey thanks a lot for providing so much information. Sure I will atleast get a tune on the bike (if not already) and check what tyres suit my needs. But your advice has helped me a lot to proceed with my decision. Thanks again. Just another question. Does the 2015+ R1 have starting issue too? How reliable is it?
@Ivanovich518
Жыл бұрын
What size back tire on your r1? Regular 190/55/17?
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Yes factory size
@stestar09
Жыл бұрын
I get a 1k bike , i wana sacrifice nothing , power wanted all through the range , i don't wana down shift or I'd just keep the 600
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
That’s my style as well. Power is #1 on my list of reasons I ride a crotch rocket.
@ahimeirhadad4836
2 ай бұрын
Crossplane the best because no flatplane rather original crankshaft like a car inline 4 same sound.
@racingislife7916
2 ай бұрын
Cross plane sounds like ass sorry 😅 but to each their own I guess…
@ahimeirhadad4836
2 ай бұрын
@@racingislife7916 A simple Flat Plane in motorcycles is usually heard in twin cylinder 180 degree and V4 engines, example Aprilia.
@racingislife7916
2 ай бұрын
@@ahimeirhadad4836 I’m a true flat plane guy, cross planes just sound way to choppy for me reminds me of like riding a Harley. If you like it that’s your opinion I’m just not a fan of it. The flat planes always remind me of an F1 car loud, menacing, and angry.
@ahimeirhadad4836
2 ай бұрын
@@racingislife7916 4 cylinder without flatplane exactly like a car, if sounding also f1 sound = exhaust sound.
@racingislife7916
2 ай бұрын
@@ahimeirhadad4836 flat plane = f1 car Cross plane = Harley Davidson 😂
@stasKZ
Жыл бұрын
can you recommend a starter for my 2005 R1? thanks!
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
OEM starters are good on those years of bikes. A lot of cheaper options on Amazon if you don’t want to spend big bucks on a factory unit. I’ve had good luck with my cheap amazon starter, a year later and still going strong.
@yasseralsaidi1168
Жыл бұрын
I like the 06 r1 lower grunt is absolutely necessary
@Tampa_tom
7 ай бұрын
I just got a 06 and i love it too
@travelshaft52
6 ай бұрын
06 rules!!!🏁🏁🏁
@lioncross1849
2 ай бұрын
I had this debate in my head back in 2014. I went with the 2005 and I have had an absolute blast with it. I love that bike. I have always wondered what it would have been like if I had bought a 09
@lioncross1849
2 ай бұрын
What pulled me toward the 05 was that it was a throttle cable and that it was slightly more roomy looking as I am a couple inches over 6 foot
@JT2JZ
2 ай бұрын
The 2005 probably is a more rounded / reliable bike. I really enjoy the riding experience of my 2012 even though it is more problematic.
@jvillain9946
Жыл бұрын
2012-2014 doesnt have abs either
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Correct. Just traction control
@Mrmarginofsafety
9 ай бұрын
For a road bike give me mid range any day, it's why the latest Honda SP brought back the mid range.
@JT2JZ
9 ай бұрын
I agree. That’s why I choose 1000cc bikes over 600cc every time
@Mrmarginofsafety
9 ай бұрын
@@JT2JZ My K5 GIXER rocks tons of mid-range probably like the CP R1 very comfortable too.
@hunterhansen87
2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking between a 2008 and a 2010 R1, and wondering which one would be better and if the 2010 is worth $1000 more?
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
In a perfect world it would be nice to try both bikes and see what one you like more because they are very different! If you are looking for a good all around bike that is reliable , smooth linear power, light weight, raw riding experience and gets decent fuel mileage I would go with the old body style flatplane engine. The new crossplane bike is a more top end power race oriented bike. It has a lot more tech ( traction control and 3 power modes ). It’s more unique but may come with more reliability quirks. If you can put up with a few of the Crossplane characteristics I do think it’s worth the extra money. I’ve never had a bike that delivered such a memorable riding experience before.
@callumsimpson858
2 жыл бұрын
Go for an o8 r1 I have one and you won't regret it
@stestar09
Жыл бұрын
The 08 has the 6 pot calipers too , well mine does & i bought it second hand with them fitted
@stestar09
Жыл бұрын
The 08 has throttle bodies with fly by , cables down to bodies then actuator controlled from there
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing
@MrDinokoumi
2 жыл бұрын
Great video ✌
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks boss. I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@343ForwardUntoDawn
Жыл бұрын
Are u in canada?
@panosdanzis950
Жыл бұрын
06 its the king if we gonna talk for performance. for the looks 09 its mona lisa. cross plane are better for playing for sure. if we talk for engine power race the 06 will tear all cross planes a part and as the road continue the 06 continue to gets ahead no euro no nothing rare meat xD
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
My 06 was a damn good bike that’s for sure!
@panosdanzis950
Жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ i was own a 06 and i never lose by a cp engine now i have a 07 its good but that pull of the 06 was something else the bike never stops to accelerate like a infinity gear xD the 4 gear was hitting 280 klm only with program, filter, air box mode, polini clutch system, and stock exhast with a/r inside, exup off ,stock sprockets oem. i sell it cause the engine hit a lot of miles only for that i dont want to rebuild it i live in greece
@prajwalmahesh576
Жыл бұрын
Which is more powerful inline or crossplane
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Crossplane makes more power but the bike is heavier so it’s not actually that much faster.
@westondifranco9313
11 ай бұрын
I have the dad R1, an 03 FZ1, built off the 98-01 R1 motor. Flatplane> crossplane for me. I love the sound more, and cresting 8,000 rpm makes me feel amazing.
@JT2JZ
11 ай бұрын
I’ve rode the fz1 before. They are great bikes. Very affordable as well which is always a bonus.
@westondifranco9313
11 ай бұрын
@JT2JZ Also serve a different purpose. Road focused, and great sport tourers. It's a shame there isn't an MT10 tracer, that bike would sell like hotcakes.
@JT2JZ
11 ай бұрын
Agreed. We have made lots of road trips with our friends fz1. No complaints at all.
@k-dub2856
5 ай бұрын
That was a really nice video. I had a 2013 Aprilia rsv4 but now I'm on a 2019 Yamaha r1 and I'm loving it. I think I'll be hanging onto it especially with them discontinuing it in 2025.
@JT2JZ
5 ай бұрын
@k-dub2856 I want to transition into a new R1 as well. Is the new R1 all around a better bike than your original aprilia?
@k-dub2856
5 ай бұрын
@@JT2JZ As far as reliability goes yes. The Aprilia definitely needed more attention regularly. I do miss the low to mid range on the Rsv4 though. The sound of that v4 was just a step above the r1 but it still sounds good.
Something many people don't know, the main purpose of the crossplane was to increase traction at the rear wheel, by smoothing the power pulse at high rpm. So a flat plane crank does not fire evenly across the cylinders. In a 360 degree rotation, it's like hitting combustion on 90 degrees and then not again til 270, two cylinders at a time... Something like that. This causes loss of some rear wheel grip. The cross plane was designed to fire a cylinder every 90 degrees, evening the power pulse to the rear wheel. Weaker pulses (1 cylinder at a time) cause the loss of some bottom end, but smoother power delivery causes the increase of rear wheel grip. The crossplane came out in 09, and ben spies won wsbk on it that same year. It continued to dominate wsbk and ama for the next several years, until ducati and aprilia stepped their games up. But even now the crossplane still dominates motoamerica. Not being the fastest bike in a straight line. Confidence coming out of a corner, to get on the gas early while still leaned over.... Thats what the crossplane was really made for. Yamaha must have patented it cause every inline 4 should be using it.
@OmGiTsMeTaStY
9 ай бұрын
You have the 2 mixed up. Crossplane allows for a break between power pulses to the tire to give it a chance at regaining traction. The flat plane fires evenly
@MHLivestreams
4 ай бұрын
@@OmGiTsMeTaStY crossplane means 4 lower powered pulses instead of 2 more powerful ones, that's what the point was and is.
@OmGiTsMeTaStY
4 ай бұрын
@MHLivestreams what????? A flatplane I4 fires a cylinder every 180° of the crank. Very even, very smooth. NOT firing 2 cylinders at a time. (what? XD) The crossplane fires at 180° 90° 180° then lastly 270° to start the cycle over again. The key is that 270°. The long pause of no power gives the rear tire a chance to regain traction many times a second especially at high rpms and high lean angles. Wtf are you talking about "4 lower powered pulses instead of 2 more powerful ones?" Within 720° of rotation, each of these bikes fires all 4 cylinders once, and one at a time. Flatplanes are very even and balanced, crossplanes are uneven, irregular, and require an extra balancing shaft to balance the engine, but can result it better grip at the limits of traction. Both of you are SEVERELY wrong on the engines/crankshafts of the bikes within this video. Google is free. KZitem is free.
@andreas.619
Жыл бұрын
This was the perfect video dude. Great information and everything is relevant. A lot of big reviewers talk about shit we never use. I'm going with the flatplane.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you. The flat plane truly is a great machine. I’m sure you will enjoy it.
@MikeSmith-qs2nr
4 ай бұрын
Rode both only my opinion cross plane gets my vote
@racingislife7916
2 ай бұрын
Cross plane sucks I prefer my old R1 better than the new ones. Sounds so much meaner than the cross planes. Crossplanes just has the pop and noises kids these days like.
@JT2JZ
2 ай бұрын
I’ve spend many hours on both machines. For pure reliability get the older flatplane. You will likely never have an issue. For a unique riding experience and slightly more performance you really can’t beat the Crossplane for the price. It’s almost a mix between Italian Superbike tech and Japanese bike affordability
@timothycaldwell2560
2 жыл бұрын
This didnt need to be a half hour video.
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
It could have easily been made much longer.
@SrtAng
Жыл бұрын
A video comparing the 2015+ r1 would be dope also
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I would love to get my hands on a new generation R1 but they are pretty rare in my area. Hopefully one day!
@Yeah_na
2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm… I hate it when people change your mind…
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
It’s just my 2 cents. Take it with a grain of salt
@paxwallace8324
Жыл бұрын
The avg rider doesn't want to ride it like they stole it.
@JT2JZ
Жыл бұрын
I think 1000cc bikes are awesome day to day when riding casual as well. They have better low end grunt to use in town compared to a 600cc. Don’t have to rev them out all the time.
@stestar09
Жыл бұрын
@@JT2JZ totally agree , they don't have to work as hard & 1k's will last longer as there harder to thrash lol
@Shadow0fd3ath24
2 жыл бұрын
the 6 piston of the 09+ are WAY better brakes overall tbh. with the same pads the new calipers do soo much better
@JT2JZ
2 жыл бұрын
The new calipers probably do perform better. It’s probably the weight of the Crossplane bike that makes me feel like it’s harder to stop. My 2006 just felt all around lighter and more nimble even when braking.
@Shadow0fd3ath24
10 ай бұрын
@@JT2JZ upgrade the pads, itll help a ton. The stock pads are trash tbh
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