Honestly BFA "introduction" to a new player, is like to start to watch a movie halfway almost near the end... You are the Chosen One, the Champion, the (Insert random OP title here). Vanilla / Classic start is: you are the grunt, explore, don't die, and maybe we will have work for you.
@DavidPachón8591
5 ай бұрын
Not to say these BFA colors are way more depressive.
@Ryan21500
5 ай бұрын
Imagine having a game you don’t need a bunch of addons or have to alt tab or use a second monitor to constantly look up things for a game you play.
@emjaythegreat22
5 ай бұрын
This for sure! Games shouldn’t need addons to few good and play well! All the information should be in game! Quests should guide you in a way that makes sense you don’t need a addon! Seeing your abilities and animations should be visual ques not weakauras. If their is a DR system some Games do a white bar near health bar like a timer lets you know when to use a cc ability for full benefit! Wow could easily implement all this and be done with addons! Dps meter can be standard toggle on or off etc!
@Alialun2
2 ай бұрын
I have played vanilla and classic without addons and I had absolutely no issue with it.
@zajairopr
4 ай бұрын
If the beginning experience is awful and confusing, why would new players want to reach the endgame? Especially when said "endgame" is a bunch of players telling me to go download this huge list of add ons, set them up and then yell at me for not knowing how things works.
@rickstatic6010
5 ай бұрын
bro chill on the zygor, we understand it's good but what new player is gonna know that it and install addons day 1. Also you go from level 10-60 in BFA before you even leave the first area so yea the experience is trash, you don't even experience ANY of the storyline. Once you hit 60 it INSTANTLY PORTS YOU TO SW no matter if your killing a mob, finishing a quest, trading a friend, you HAVE TO START Dragonflight right that second. It's just THAT bad they aren't embellishing it...
@chrisjones658
3 ай бұрын
Retail taking players instantly to the end game IS the problem. You go from - as Asmon points out an obvious point - being a god and invincible whilst levelling to having the biggest reality check the moment you try group content with a failure check at max level. Classic WoW is obviously easier and in 2024 is not the best we can do, but it’s an infinitely better new player experience for the average gamer in terms of narrative and how digestible the gameplay is. You will die a lot whilst levelling. You will be forced even whilst solo to learn how to kind of play. In 2024 this will probably guide you to 3rd party websites that really tell you more. The game could be improved even more if this third party step wasn’t needed. If it really taught you how to do your rotation, about interrupts, and kiting, and CC etc. Back to retail, the 1st time you experience failure is probably at max level where you might somehow figure out you’re meant to do something like an M0 and up to this point you’ve never even thought about an optimal rotation, you’ve likely never had to consider an interrupt, or any CC. You likely haven’t ran into any one shot mechanics yet. And the 1st time you meet these things is all at the same time and not unlikely with 4 other people who play the game 28 hours a day and expect you to know. You fail, you get kicked and told to KYS and you quit the game. That is the retail new player experience for your average gamer.
@Zetherior
5 ай бұрын
Shilling endgame is the biggest content creator pyramid scheme in history.
@sseetthh
3 ай бұрын
????? huh lol
@jimx45
Ай бұрын
And guess who the fck wanted that. It was people like Asmongold and Bajeera. They just want to skip the cutscenes just shows this and every time a new version was out they were rushing to the end. Blizzard has been hearing this turds out and it's not just them it's most of the raiding idiots. It's not Blizzard's fault its' the players. I was the only one boycotting BC at that point and I was also boycotting Classic BC but did the idiots listen they just jumped on WoTLk after they let BC burned to the ground and continued. They're never going to get this game they're talking about because they're making it become what it is. They will be 50 years old and it's not going to happen.
@Isilithix
5 ай бұрын
I've done the tutorial island several times just to see if there any hidden items that can only be found after slaughtering hundreds of the same mobs for funsies. In my opinion, the tutorial island has next to nothing to offer new players that couldn't be (or wasn't already being) taught through pop ups BEFORE the island was introduced. It literally just has 'special gear's which is almost literally replaced as soon as you get off of it. Just like at the beginning of a new expansion. If my friends had time to play WoW and started, they would all quit before actually getting into the meat and potatoes of the game.
@kylesmith987
5 ай бұрын
The 1 argument i would advocate for classic wow is that while it may not directly tell what to do or where to go it does a much better job at slowly introducing you to the systems and the general flow of gameplay at a much more understandable pace. It directs you through the gameplay itself instead of through fire hosing dialogue at you and then it gives you a decent amount of time to digest each system at a time before introducing you to a new system. For Example: You start off slowly in the beginning area where you are dropped off right in front of a dude with a yellow exclamation mark right above their head which immediately triggers you to think i should probably talk to this guy. That guy then gives you a simple quest and you go and do that 1 quest. It then repeats this process for a few levels to really let it sink in through gameplay. it then completes the beginning area of quests at your class trainer and introduces you to training new skills and then sends you on your way to the next area which then opens up the world a bit while still having you do the same stuff you have done until eventually you hit level 10 and then it introduces you to a new system via talents which it gradually rewards you with 1 talent point per level and eases you into that system little bits at a time. This process proceeds for the entire leveling experience while gradually introducing you to new stuff and systems. This is a much more digestible way for a brand new player to engage in your game in a much more reasonable pace. You could argue it is a bit slow, you could easily argue that it is missing a lot of modern quality of life stuff but fundamentally it is a much better new player experience then retail is even if it is not perfect. Now I'm not here to bash either game I'm just specifically pointing out the game design philosophy difference between classic and retail from a new players perspective and what i think is done better.
@jackalo34
3 ай бұрын
Yep. Its hard to long time plsyers to remember what a difference it was slowly being shown each new system as a new player.
@scolamiero28
5 ай бұрын
The answer to bad initial quest design shouldnt be add ons esp a paid one , the issue with wow is new players need to swim through a bunch of nonsense to get to the good part which you even stated is the end game. Im like you i dont care about lore and stuff , but a lot of players need that connection with a story to get to the end . As for lag with a lot of people around , i dont think any game handles that issue well, classic was maybe the best becuase spell effects were tiny and no mogs
@Jason-ji8ql
5 ай бұрын
I think the issue Day9 had was that, in regards to classic, the game loop is fairly consistent across all levels of the experience. Retail on the other hand tends to front load all the contextual elements for the narrative (which some players prefer, lets be honest), but the problem is sometimes that experience grinds the gameplay to a halt. And I think that was his biggest issue with it. Would he enjoy endgame? Based on what he's trying to say, I absolutely think he would.
@WelsyCZ
5 ай бұрын
They are also not acknowledging a significant amount of the playerbase that cares about the story. He clearly did not even try to read it, even skipping the blocks of text about the story and just reading the goals, you get a good idea about it. He is clearly presenting it as a hyperbole, further inflated by asmon. But yeah, BfA is just awful for a new player.
@therabbits69
5 ай бұрын
@@WelsyCZ day9 did read the quests when I was watching the stream. The new player experience on the island is frankly just bad design with 0 actual game play and frankly a bad story too.
@LovelyHick
5 ай бұрын
The optimal start for new and old players is Warlords of Draenor for the Garrison Hearthstone and bank, solid story and without dungeons or Battlegrounds you have two zones left when ready for Dragonflight, pop into legion for then Dallaran Hearthstone and boom you got regular Hearthstone for where you are and can pop into your bank and transmogifier straight off the bat
@natebroadus8474
5 ай бұрын
I played WoW for 14-years, and even I struggled to keep the narrative of modern retail WoW straight. I can't even imagine how it must feel if you're a new player and none of this means anything to you, but you still have to sit through hours of it. It would be like someone trying to get you into Harry Potter, but they start you at Halfblood Prince. WHO is Dumbledore? Wtf is a Draco Malfoy? Sirius what?
@zedorian6547
4 ай бұрын
Yeah we definitely disagree on such a fundamental level on story in games that I doubt we could even have a discussion on it let alone debate. Thankfully mmo’s tend to adhere to both types of players in a way that would allow us to still play together regardless of personal outlook. Mind you that comes with its own bag of worms but nothing is perfect.
@drewblock1365
5 ай бұрын
I quit in early MoP. Tried coming back late shadowlands. Since my account was a legacy account i wasnt forced into BFA on a new character, however i still went through it, by the time youre out of BFA youre level 50 and then you gotta do shadowlands. Pretty sure in war within they're changing the start for new players from BFA to dragonflight.
@weaktoxic9683
5 ай бұрын
Started last week and this game has been really good and some ppl are very helpful
@blinkachu5275
5 күн бұрын
This was the EXACT experience for me as new to WoW (had played years ago but only briefly so only really remembered the starting area for Blood Elves) I created a Blood Elf Hunter, and thought, well this is not where I remember starting last time I played years ago as I was put on a ship to invade an island, for people I did not know or did not care for. And then as I finished doing the island quests (I guess that was all there was to it) I got ran up by some dude telling me I had to go to the Dragon Isles because OMG the Dragons want their Island back and I'm like WHO THE HECK? But then the Horde chief or whatever the dude's name in Orgrimmar tells me I have to go to the Undercity so I go to the Undercity but Sylvanas Windrunner tells me to go to another place where I have to help. So I go help and suddenly have to talk to a king of this Mayan looking place and do all kinds of quests to get him to trust me and I'm just sitting here like BUT WHAT IS THE STORY BEHIND ANY OF THIS??? Why can't I just start in a simple zone and learn about the backstory of MY character and its people and slowly grow from there??? And before I knew what was going on (I still don't) I was level 45 without ever really feeling like I leveled up because every. single. enemy. is scaled to my level. From a lowly crab to a gigantic dragon, it doesn't matter, it's all scaled to my level so I could be the baddest of badasses out there but so are the enemies I guess. So I installed WoW Classic Cataclysm as well, and had SUCH a better time. I actually learned of the proud Blood Elves fighting for their place in the Horde, fighting to reclaim their lands. It was interesting, refreshing, made me care about the characters I regularly talked to. Sure, WoW Classic has some annoyances in the gameplay department because it's genuinely "classic WoW", but at least it made me care enough to play. I did go back to Retail to play as a Demon Hunter because I heard you actually follow their own storyline as you do, and that's true. I'm level 49 now and I'm still in the Demon Hunter campaign. It actually made me feel like part of the Illidari, and right now I actually feel decently powerful as well (even though I still hate that enemies are scaled to my level by default).
@denistalbot1829
4 ай бұрын
The problem you don't seem to see is there is no game for a new player, most people play a game by hitting max level, finishing the story and they never touch it again because they have finish the fucking game. In WOW retail hitting max level and finishing the story is finishing the tutorial, so you have been not playing a game for hours, then the game end. No wonder WOW can't make new players, I would have drop this shit way before Day9 and i'm sure he would have to if he not streaming
@andrewmaus4193
5 ай бұрын
yeah if they make you start bfa that is a terrible idea.... Should put pop him in starting zone make his way out then go to board and choose what xpac or continue classic vanilla quests
@TheBaldr
4 ай бұрын
He didn't choose BfA, it is the default expansion the game puts you on after you done Exile's Reach. You can choose other expansions, but for a new player it really doesn't tell you that.
@Blackbaldrik
5 ай бұрын
You asked if there's a game that does a good job of getting players through the game; Not to revive an old rivalry, but OldSchool RuneScape. The first-time player experience is immaculate by comparison, and it doesn't have to rush you through to max level, because it's actually a game with fun content you can play at virtually all points. It just lets you play the dang game. ...Kinda like it seems WoW Classic does.
@theadamcoleman
4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the day Zygor can just control my character and play the game for me.
@imthrillz5255
3 ай бұрын
Retail WoW leveling system and introduction is the biggest mess and worst thing i have ever experienced in any MMO.
@msf47
8 күн бұрын
as much as i like retail i wish the leveling exp. was as half good as classic wow .
@Fydron
5 ай бұрын
52:42 I feel the same i do like the simplicity of classic but the gameplay makes me want to lay down. I can play it for little bit but in the long run its just too slow for my taste. I know lots of people hate what i am going to say but as someone who has played the game since early TBC i really think the game just has way too much clutter too much button bloat for no reason other than constantly just add another button to rotation which makes gameplay feel like a chore. Personally i wish WoW had GW2 style low intensity builds for all classes that would do decent damage not raid level but decent that would minimize the button bloat and still keep the class playable and not totally useless.
@andrewm6203
5 ай бұрын
A streamer reacting to a streamer reacting to a streamer.......
@MandrakeMoorglade
3 ай бұрын
...who is reacting a video game. 4 levels of reaction inception. Welcome to youtube.
@Tijuanabill
27 күн бұрын
The WA I had for Oribos was to count the laps.
@Arcexey
Ай бұрын
Wow ended around 2007 when wrath came out and made it an entirely different game.
@jimx45
Ай бұрын
From the explanation it sounds like Blizzard did this on purpose to bully you into skipipng all this nonsense with a max level purchase. The game is not 15 dollars a month. That's absurd in this economy their hidden inflation is you paying for the instant max level. WoW Retail is just a phone game. You know those phone games where you can play for free? But to grind to the top you have to spend years to do it but if you purchase something in the ingame store you can get there in a matter of 1 day? It's that model. The price isnt 14.99 it's 14.99 plus 29.99 for instant level just so you can play endgame with your botfriends.
@had0629
5 ай бұрын
Bahj is such an out of touch retail shill. ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME. Nobody looks through the perspective of a new player
@jackalo34
3 ай бұрын
Its his biggest weakness. We understand the game is end game focused but why bother gettin there if the process is a turn off is the point.
@had0629
3 ай бұрын
@@jackalo34 and even the end game experience is awful for new players
@zacharybryant3865
5 ай бұрын
I still have no idea how to get a legendary in retail. I just relied on getting it in the vault because I have zero clue (I’m a returning player - last played at very end of season 1).
@fwam2k7
5 ай бұрын
Hard agree on the point about BG3, really wanted to get into it, but it feels way to slow to me
@McMillionX
5 ай бұрын
my friends and arena partners have quit WoW and wont ever be back. WE are upset because we love WoW so much and they have totally left the planet. To many avenues of gameplay and the playerbase and split. They dont touch or care about arena at all. I will not come back ever.
@Dexwin09
4 ай бұрын
another thing... doesn't feel like a WORLD of warcraft, more like a "Region of Warcraft" ... they need to get back to the world and stop adding new regions or just focusing on one region.
@iv9ry
5 ай бұрын
Asmons argument with achievement points and collected items isn't really Valid. I started Late S4 SL/DF prepatch and have 14k achievements, 300+ mounts, idk how many battle pets its not hard to find these things while going through old content for mounts, transmog, or even just achievement hunting. You can see that guy is still fairly new, he has mainly BFA leveling gear at the end of DF
@ExiledtoVampa
5 ай бұрын
Dude I love your stuff...I am just coming back to retail after over a year and having a blast with Devestation Evoker
@jimx45
Ай бұрын
The average gamer plays Retail but has no idea why he hates every minute of it and why he keeps playing it.
@hiimbiggz4844
3 ай бұрын
as a fairly new player myself the game is overly complex I personally dont mind it but for its definitely not new player friendly and i dont think thats good for a MMO more so the community is not vary good to new players
@Devildoginvu
5 ай бұрын
Let’s not listen to the dialog and not watch the cinematics and become confused about what’s going on.
@smartflexer
5 ай бұрын
29:46 Funny you mention Addons, because this is the main issue with WoW for new players. How can you expect a new player to know about addons and what addons to use? why isn't this in the core game. When you need addons for stuff then it means the game is bad in that area so you need addons/weakauras to help you.
@Alialun2
2 ай бұрын
Damn, this whole video is like the biggest retail apologist reaction video, it's ridiculous. Day9 had no reason or intention to shit on retail or to exaggerate, he was seriously trying to enjoy it but it simply is absolute garbage for people that haven't played the game for 10+ years. They aren't targetting new players anymore. You are trying to make an apology for something that simply isn't true anymore at all. This is true new players perspective and it is absolutely valid and Blizzard actually took it seriously and is already making changes to the new player experience. You want MMO that have absolutely great leveling experience? Wow until Cataclysm. You are asking a person that has NEVER played the game to close the tutorial because it's bad. You are just completely ignoring the fact that new player simply doesn't know things you know. You are trying to act superior to someone new.... Yes, you know more about something you do for years than a person that is completely new to it, shocker! At least you boost your ego I guess.
@monk3y5an
4 ай бұрын
You musta had donuts for breakfast. Watching you defend bad design choices and tell new players to install your sponsors add ons to make the game playable is funny once but it quickly becomes tedious and dull. I’m not even at the halfway point and I’m out.
@NakaliTama
5 ай бұрын
Silk Road starts strong but falls off hard after level 20 or so
@Zerodess
13 күн бұрын
so you don't like dialog, you just want to fight? Play tekken or something then, these games with dialog is what the game makes great. you know why you're fighting ect. I repeat if you just want to fight wow is not for you as are many other games.
@FriendlyUncle
4 ай бұрын
I think you downplayed their points severely. It's not new-comer friendly at all and just assumes you've been gaming for 20 years so you understand gaming tropes like red barrel is bad. I came in at Legion and they throw so much lore and characters at you, you have no fucking clue who these people are or what you're actually doing or how you got to that point. If you didnt play before WOTLK good luck knowing anything substantial besides these characters good, these are bad.
@jackalo34
3 ай бұрын
I really wish more wow vets understood that. Ive all but quit the game several times so Im experienced in the game/mmos n even I can see the massive flaws it has for newer mmo n wow players.
@Mikcha212
6 күн бұрын
I will say, that I find it ironic that you are promoting a paid addon and guide the assists you with the extremely confusing layout and setup to WoW, while in the same sentence saying that the game isn't THAT confusing or easy to get lost in. If that's the case, why would someone go through the trouble of making an addon that shows you a magical trail to follow directly where you need to go or write a guide of any kind on mundane activities like where vendors are or where a quest giver is.
@KorbladeGaming
5 ай бұрын
I think people who prefer pvp like our fav warrior Baj here share the desire to just log in and play. PvP typically doesn’t incorporate or require any form of lore, you just fight. I think people who prefer PvE desire lore the most, being one of if not the biggest reason they play at all, story immersion and participation. So it just depends on your Pv preference.
@Fydron
5 ай бұрын
Problem is that retail is too confusing mostly because its over designed and Blizzard never stopped to actually think how to fix crap like constantly hopping from timeline to timeline and for many people especially new players it makes story impossible to follow. As for just hopping into pvp this is the very reason why i stopped doing wow pvp when GW2 launched because in there i can just hop into BG's without needing gear and if i want to play gear based pvp i just play WvW. WoW's pvp just requires way too much useless work to actually enjoy the pvp.
@Rikitangoable
2 ай бұрын
300 hours is definitely new in the mmo sense
@WestonTeli
5 ай бұрын
i can't wait for him to get to dragonflight...i just came back and....what the fuck do i do and i've been playing for fucking ever
@Wollfanges
5 ай бұрын
about the final thought i'm more a asmon side because there is a big difference ebtween having 300H and have still a loot to do (it's good) and having 300h and have A LOT you don't understand at for me it's a bad thing you can have a lot to do in game after big playtime it's cool and great but having too much thing you don't even know or understand after that much time it said a thing about the game and player experience
@jackalo34
3 ай бұрын
Yea, it makes sense in a game like poe to have tht many hrs n still not understand fully the complex mechs like crafting but in something like wow, it feels bad considering how end game grp focused he keeps saying the game is. with things like poe elden ring etc you re on your own unless you want to grp for maps in poe.
@jimx45
Ай бұрын
Playing retail feels like being a girl. Even though you're just a 20 year old girl people act like you accomplish something, you're taken from one location to another. But you don't like it because you know you didn't do anything to get this kind of treatment. It feels bad people treat you like shit when you didn't do anything to them but you also feel like shit when you never did anything but people are praising you.
@Synthad1
4 ай бұрын
i started wow retail this week. No idea where to go. I finished the island, got to stormwind. Did some levelling at Kul tirisa.. then the quests stopped.. no idea where to go now.. I decided to buy dragon flight cuz i didnt know what else to do. the store made me think i needed the 70 level boost to play dragon flight.. I want to play the early expansion stuff like, BFA and lich king, but im sitting in stormwind at level 70 and no idea how i start these expansions.. can i start them at level 70?? The game is a mess imo...
@g8_a201
3 ай бұрын
Where did the quests stop?
@Omrxx
5 ай бұрын
Would you also react to fitness advice?
@TheDoct0rb
5 ай бұрын
Retail just isn't a great leveling experience and doesn't support older content well. I don't know how they fix that... The talent trees do help a lot tho, getting a talent every level makes you want to keep getting levels and can introduce your class to you at a steady rate. That all being said retail is all about max level activities. And current retail is a fantastic game atm. Get yourself a guild, raid and do mythic plus and the game is a blast.
@cmillerr
4 ай бұрын
Just another 20 year wow veteran trying to shove end game retail down people’s throat… take the hint, the rest of the game is shit. You sharing your thoughts on this is irrelevant because you can’t view it from a semi new player’s perspective.
@codywatson9627
5 ай бұрын
This is like really good wow content junk food, i love it!
@tekamer6566
5 ай бұрын
I unironically love your reaction content, your commentary is very fun to listen to
@Fynation
5 ай бұрын
Let me just quickly react to this bald guy reacting to this balding guy reacting to a bald guy. Very nice 👍🏼
@Blood_Ronin
5 ай бұрын
Bro, I am loving the reactions to the reactions. This Day9 video had me geeking with laughter.
@Psycatrice
5 ай бұрын
I honestly don't care about Asmongold (to be precise, it's more his community than himself, but w/e), but Day9 is just that funny. I'm a retail only player, but watching this live, him losing his sanity with the dozens of cinematics, it really was something x).
@Rukia541
5 ай бұрын
At some point WoW turned to forced narrative. We used to have the freedom to skip everything and just kill stuff. WoW has never had strong narrative and by the time the game started forcing it on the players, its woke warm and fuzzy, the opposite of what many warcraft players want. Wrath of the lich king is the only time I've ever cared about the story. It has only gotten worse ever since, so i don't care about it. So its not just scaring new players away but veterans as well.
@thestud111
5 ай бұрын
Just here to encourage the embracement of the react meta.
@jimx45
Ай бұрын
Retail Hardcore is trying to die
@Nicholas1994
3 ай бұрын
I tested the BfA thing on an EU starter account with a new character. You have to do Exile's Reach, but after that you can go talk to Chromie and she says you're not ready to do timewalking campaigns, but there's dialogue options to persuade her, then you can choose whichever one you want. But this is just a technicality, a new player isn't going to know to try that. The game does push you toward BfA and makes it seem like there are no other options.
@deezportz
5 ай бұрын
Honestly..vanilla was great because everyone sucked and enjoyed learning..retail everyone is a so called God but they need a 1000 weak auras and add ons to play..and this guy gets paid to play and stream so..."Zygor"..make your money but the game is to much be honest.i still play wow out of habit..
@ross1779
5 ай бұрын
People are way too damn dramatic. Wow is as easy as ever to get into.
@SirDeltis
5 ай бұрын
Third Bajh Video in a row with Sandwiches
@fsgjafgja
Ай бұрын
22:20 lol "skill" issue
@zedxspecturm4698
5 ай бұрын
i gotta find someone to react to this so we can have just infinite reactions
@callafuryz8549
5 ай бұрын
You’ve always been my favorite handsome jacked bearded streamer bud ❤
@shelbytucker6325
4 ай бұрын
Day9 will hatew playing Final Fantasy 14 lol he should never play that game. that game is cut seane heavy af.
@jackalo34
3 ай бұрын
at least you get context from the start about it with lil bits ofg combat bw the long cutscenes in ff14's massive story. With being dropped in bfa, you have no context for what led to the drama bw jaina n her mom or why youre there in the first place so the following exposition feels very forced. If you were give a summary of where you are goin, why, and what connection jaina has to it prior to gettin on the boat, itd be less confusing n maybe a lil exciting to see what's in store.
@Davman316
5 ай бұрын
There's a lot of systems to learn for a new player. Luckily for them there are addons, KZitem channels like this and a multitude of websites to help them on their way. And while we never had all of these things back in the day for me discovering new things and helping your guildies via guild chat was part of the fun back then. Today's Wow has so much content that it would be a major struggle without all of those helpful things for most people let alone a complete beginner.
@KRIAJK
5 ай бұрын
That’s the biggest and hardest to understand issue. Why, create so many systems and drop a new player into the middle of the story? No person should need to watch KZitem videos or download 3rd party add-ons to simply try a new game.
@emjaythegreat22
5 ай бұрын
New accounts don’t have to play bfa. You need a level 60 character so all you do is create a trial character it makes them level 60. You don’t have to pay to boost it or use it then you just make new character. It unlocked chromie for you and you can go on any other you want to. The game Ofcourse doesn’t tell you this as a new player/account but that is how you bypass having to do bfa.
@nicholasangelo3122
5 ай бұрын
He should try Path of Exile
@Pureblood712
5 ай бұрын
Hes going to get much healthier playing wow LOL
@inadine
5 ай бұрын
Do we really have to do these reacts to reacts to reacts? Can't we just skip to reacting to the original at least?
@BajheeraWoW
5 ай бұрын
We could do a few of those too! 👍🏼
@BattousaiHBr
5 ай бұрын
as someone who's played the game for over 15 years, i completely agree with the sentiment that i just want to get to play the game, but at the same time i cannot understand how any human being could then use classic as an example of how to do it. i still remember being completely zoned out and bored beyond my imagination from leveling for the first time some 17 years ago. this has ALWAYS been true in my opinion. at least the time spent leveling is shorter nowadays so to me that's a plus, but as far as i'm concerned the less time i have to spend leveling the better, the experience is all equally bad.
@jackalo34
3 ай бұрын
The leveling experience is far from bad in classic. It is a personal opinion you are entitled to have that you didn't n don't not enjoy it, but its pretty clear many ppl do actually enjoy the leveling experience esp if it's well paced and can be used as a time to slowly learn the game mechs fore new players.
@BattousaiHBr
3 ай бұрын
@@jackalo34 survivorship bias. it's maybe an important element for the oldguard MMO playerbase, but it's not for the much much larger playerbase of gamers, of which some never tried MMOs, in part because they don't like leveling. i've watched many many videos of people that start leveling and log off and never log in again because it's just not interesting for them, and that's the norm. maybe 1 in 10 keep playing to get far enough to do raids. idk if you remember but when you cancel your sub you are given options as to why you're canceling, and a fuck ton of people must say they can't get to max level to play with friends since blizzard always keeps making it easier to reach max lv.
@theaveragelevi
5 ай бұрын
Zug good, words bad.
@Alex-in3rv
3 ай бұрын
Asmongold annoys me, but he plays the very opinionated all knowing sad sack very well 👍
@roblewis8486
3 ай бұрын
God this guys hard to listen to. You react to a reaction, and have nothing interesting to say and interrupt the good reaction lol. Good job
@slayned8738
5 ай бұрын
This reminds me of FFXIV players telling WoW players to make it to endgame because it gets better
@zedorian6547
4 ай бұрын
That’s weird. I think both games are fine from the start (mind you I’m talking about Classic and not retail WoW). Sure they both have some sore spots but even Jesus had to poop now and then.
@RandoCDN87
5 ай бұрын
New players can just do Chromie time. This guy walked into BfA on his own accord.
@tallesmagno201
4 ай бұрын
Did YOU know that when you first played the game? (if it applied whenever you started) - also it doesn't tell you this, so how would you know?
@christmasham4312
5 ай бұрын
I loving ur reaction videos bajheera ur hilarious 😂
@allenvandeventer7576
5 ай бұрын
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@MindGames_187
5 ай бұрын
first!!!!!
@MaryChl
5 ай бұрын
complaining about leveling in wow it's like complaining about going to the gym for the first month (just a comparison) ... Yeah, we get it, things will suck, but after that first period, when you get to max lvl things will improve. Man these adults cry over not playing for 2 minutes ... Like kids on too much sugar
@jackalo34
3 ай бұрын
but a game should be fun from the start so the gym isnt very comparable.
@cci9459
5 ай бұрын
2 have beens that scream at the sky. Nothing more :) they piss on the hand that fed them.
@dirtymcnuggets9933
5 ай бұрын
Watch WandaWillows new player experience, far more genuine and enjoyable than Day9TV.
@francoisturgeon1176
5 ай бұрын
ASmon and day 9 are both exagerating here for content as always . day9 was never a pro at starcraft 1 ... he played in tournaments locally in his town ... the guy never been a pro .... asmon is a toxic negative looser now ... he knows people like negativity and thats all hes doing now .... both of them are fishing for content and people believe them LOL thats the worst part
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