I’d change Doc’s final smash to be similar to Ness/Lucas’s final smash, just instead of raining PK Starstorm shots it’s raining large multicolored pills. I would make it a controllable final smash where you could choose where you want to drop the pills. But if I want to keep Final Smashes the way they are in Ultimate, which is fast and to the point ( which still doesn’t explain why Peach’s final smash is still the same! This goes for Daisy as well ), this is an ok compromise. Besides, in the Dr.Mario games he drops the pills from the TOP of the screen.
@jimbomusics
5 жыл бұрын
i would change all other player's character to one certain color and have their color come from all directions and have their attacks be weaker and some not work because it takes away body parts considering on position
@janehuskmann1914
5 жыл бұрын
If I was redesigning Doc's, it'd suck enemies trapped in the attack towards the middle, deal less damage per-hit, and at the end, delivers a nasty hitbox that deals great damage & knockback.
@Somik38
5 жыл бұрын
HK C Starving that is actually Smart!
@poofmcoof
5 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting them to change Mario's final smash since brawl lmao it's so baf
@Kelsang01
5 жыл бұрын
I'd make it so that doc rushes forward and slaps any foes he touches into the bottle thingy that he throws pills in to get rid of viruses. Then he would pile in a bunch of viruses and pills until the whole thing explodes into a colorful mess.
@succ3861
4 жыл бұрын
I mean it makes sense that Dr. Mario is powerful, he knows the parts of the human body he has to hit
@thepaperportal
4 жыл бұрын
And he has access to steroids
@Deme_Diora666
4 жыл бұрын
Making him sound like he part of the hyuga clan 😂
@user-lj5rf5lh6h
4 жыл бұрын
PINGAS
@user-rz7wy9tj7n
4 жыл бұрын
Well i certanly know what parts to hit (if youre a guy)
@KingsGoated
4 жыл бұрын
Well, if I were an Italian plumber who has a PhD in anatomy, I'd know what parts to hit.
@creeeamy7133
5 жыл бұрын
Dr Marios movement is worse because he's weighed down by his university debt
@CritXB
4 жыл бұрын
You stole this from a youtube video
@creeeamy7133
4 жыл бұрын
@@CritXB bruh what the fuck are you on about.
@aldali724
4 жыл бұрын
Creeeamy your comment isn’t original
@NoobHammer
4 жыл бұрын
@@aldali724 No one cares.
@eyyy2271
4 жыл бұрын
Only in 'Murica!
@sirsaggle6513
5 жыл бұрын
Dr Mario is instantly KO’d when he is hit with an apple
@benhuang2773
5 жыл бұрын
Game and Watch Judge 7 says hi
@TheBladeOfLight90
5 жыл бұрын
i get it
@liamtaylor9257
5 жыл бұрын
Laughs in Pacman.
@lordkaijux5262
5 жыл бұрын
So Whispy Woods is the bane of his existence?
@JKDontJudgeMe
5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Wily: *heavy sweating*
@MrVibe-tx4rn
3 жыл бұрын
Mario’s back throw: Okay, I’ll spin him around for more momentum, and then I’ll launch him for the best possible outcome. Dr Mario: *Y E E T*
@iijason1245
5 жыл бұрын
Mario: Faster; less damage Dr. Mario: Slower; More damage
@thenorfnonly3486
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. And with better specials.
@inkycat7167
5 жыл бұрын
Literally not much of a difference
@zoomspilo6798
5 жыл бұрын
@@inkycat7167 except when it comes to recovering. Doc's recovery is way worse than Mario's.
@jpc4803
5 жыл бұрын
Also forward aerial. Don’t forget Mario’s forward aerial.
@carlbloke8797
5 жыл бұрын
Xythrr and it’s so stupid that Doc’s cape can’t float
@JKDontJudgeMe
5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Mario's back throw is the definition of *y e e t* "You have cancer, I can't cure you. Now... Out."
@tedsmith7887
4 жыл бұрын
This bish empty Dr Mario: *gets the grab* Pichu at 75%: ☹️ Dr Mario: *Y E E T* GAME!
@BigBootyBatman
4 жыл бұрын
@@tedsmith7887 pichu would die earlier than that tho
@supermudkipz
4 жыл бұрын
You misspelled “You’re playing Ness”
@JKDontJudgeMe
4 жыл бұрын
A gibberish is still a definition. 🤔
@JKDontJudgeMe
4 жыл бұрын
@@supermudkipz "You're too crispy to be my food." *B-throw*
@_cephas_
5 жыл бұрын
You missed how Dr. Mario’s nair is stronger the longer it stays out, while Mario’s is weaker
@yoshiandtailsfan8797
5 жыл бұрын
True.
@ultravulpix
5 жыл бұрын
What is a nair
@J.C.Russell_96
5 жыл бұрын
Ultra Vulpix In Smash lingo, it’s short for neutral aerial. It’s the attack you get when your character is the air and you press the primary attack button without tilting the control stick at all. If your stick is tilted down, you get a downward aerial or “dair.” If it’s tilted the direction your character is facing, you get a forward aerial or “fair,” so on and so forth.
@nikc101
5 жыл бұрын
Reverse sex kick
@Sp3M4ri0
5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Russell uair?? upair right? *i already knew about the nicknames but only confused about this part*
@thesupperdud4432
4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Mario's Nair actually does more damage closer to the end of the attack, unlike most fighters, and his side special has less horizontal range than Mario's, but more vertical range
@CollectorKenji
5 жыл бұрын
The only reason why Dr. Mario is powerful is because he eats his greens. While Mario eats spaghetti.
@LegendaryPokemon1221
5 жыл бұрын
Oh no... now I'm having youtube poop flashbacks
@The_Sea_Guardian
4 жыл бұрын
So that's why he's slower! His muscles must be slowing him down!!
@CollectorKenji
4 жыл бұрын
@@The_Sea_Guardian his mechanic tools.
@The_Sea_Guardian
4 жыл бұрын
@@CollectorKenji yeah.. That makes sense too lol
@John_Sloppenheimer
4 жыл бұрын
Lasagna you imbecile!
@AFXffs772
4 жыл бұрын
Dr Mario: Heavy Boi Mario: Balanced Boi Luigi: Light Boi
@cwazyblowrage3814
4 жыл бұрын
Green mario*
@red_gentleman5091
4 жыл бұрын
@@cwazyblowrage3814 red Luigi*
@small_SHOT
4 жыл бұрын
*White Luigi
@disko567
4 жыл бұрын
dr mario and mario weigh the same
@hustle.headquarters
4 жыл бұрын
Lol i checked the wheight list and their all the same
@Jo_Phonda
5 жыл бұрын
Dr mario has a PHD so he has an intelligence advantage
@juanrodriguez9971
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty Huge Damage
@shade4404
5 жыл бұрын
He will probably succed the an intelligence save throw
@seconRmcd
5 жыл бұрын
@@juanrodriguez9971 this comment is impressive in every of its aspect
@personalstuff3019
4 жыл бұрын
he has an md not a phd hes a fake doctor
@prestonwhitmore365
4 жыл бұрын
Shade he has a +4 modifier
@sheriffhotdog1443
5 жыл бұрын
Mario: Who are-a you? Dr. Mario: I'm you, but slightly different
@TheGamingDuck3
4 жыл бұрын
Nah more like this Mario: Who are-a you Doctor Mario :Im-a you but from a differnt timeline were we have-a different careers and my job-its-a better than YOU PLUMBER ME!
@SandsBros
3 жыл бұрын
You spelled better. It should be Mario: Who are-a you? Dr. Mario: I'm you, but slightly better
@dontegraves5051
3 жыл бұрын
@@SandsBros Dr. Mario isn't better. In Melee, this is debatable, but since Smash Wii U, Mario wins. No matter what, if you can't stay on stage in Smash, you lose. Mario has more than enough tools in the game to keep Dr. Mario off the stage and pretty much has no reason to ever lose.
@lasercraft32
Жыл бұрын
@@dontegraves5051 "Funny... everything you just said was wrong." Mario may have better recovery but that doesn't automatically make him better. Especially since Doc's recovery is so much better than people seem to think. A Doc main may have to play riskier or more carefully when fighting Mario but its not black and white like you make it sound... it all comes down to skill. If Dr. Mario can avoid getting knocked off-stage, or play smart when he does, a Mario main wouldn't have that much of an advantage, especially when Doc can tear through stocks very quickly... it just requires an opening.
@penandtag
5 жыл бұрын
_"...to answer that we need to talk about parallel universe..."_
@kevin_anderson750
5 жыл бұрын
“...Mario, how did you come back after defeating Darkon?...”
@AacroX
5 жыл бұрын
"I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you!"
@soundousmoumen6506
5 жыл бұрын
Waaaaaaaaaaaahooooooooo
@Puvwilmo00
5 жыл бұрын
**proceeds to backwards long jump**
@Odyssey_Central
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people think the parallel universe meme is from terminal montage lol
@SirNarax
4 жыл бұрын
I love Doc's back throw. Not only does he have a PHD, but he is a pro wrestler.
@kfoley275
5 жыл бұрын
Dr Mario: 40+ spots below Mario in ground speed Alex: "it isn't a huge difference..."
@ComradeVenus
5 жыл бұрын
The main reason Dr mario is that low is because of his horrible recovery. Because of his low jumps, slower air speed, and the less distance traveled with his up special, he can almost never make it back to the stage, gimping him is extremely easy. This is even WITH doc's down special, which regular mario doesnt have. If doc could actually recover, he would be instantly much higher on the tier list and could actually rival mario.
@owry3144
5 жыл бұрын
@@ComradeVenus he was talking strictly about ground speed, not tier lsit position
@zFunnyBoy_
5 жыл бұрын
Kian Barbieri i wouldnt say rival mario. I think mario would still be much higher, but if doc gets a decent recovery then he will definitely shoot up
@monke_mojo
5 жыл бұрын
“The pills have a slight amount of knockback, but it’s nothing meaningful.”
@forte-4886
4 жыл бұрын
This killed me
@platinumpixel7819
3 жыл бұрын
The pills can gimp recoverys
@Lunar0_2
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao yeah I was speechless
@lasercraft32
Жыл бұрын
I know right?
@RammusTheArmordillo
5 ай бұрын
I'm starting to think this video is a joke, it's so badly done lol. Or it was made on the first day Ultimate was released maybe
@Bidoof_Fan7
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like Dr. Mario's final smash could be him putting the opponent in a bottle and throwing in lots of pills, which actually represents his games.
@smabe_g
5 жыл бұрын
I would make Dr. Mario's final smash kina like the stage hazards of Living Room, but change the aesthetics to look like pills.
@salanadrylis3621
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@SpicyWah
5 жыл бұрын
Smabe G when the fans have more creative ideas for final smashes than the developers themselves
@inkycat7167
5 жыл бұрын
Wat ??? I don’t get it
@inkorporeal204
5 жыл бұрын
@@inkycat7167 They meant that Dr mario's smash should be falling pills that hurt the players
@inkorporeal204
5 жыл бұрын
I mean, that would be nice, but it wouldn't work for most stages since the pills would have to fall on a flat surface, also, semi solid platforms would be an F for doc
@kevinwang97
4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Mario’s final smash should be giving all opponents on stage cancer
@chiefbeef5590
4 жыл бұрын
😆
@modern2833
4 жыл бұрын
O_O
@catco123
4 жыл бұрын
“i diagnose you with cancer” *GAME!*
@mohamedgmari5278
3 жыл бұрын
I think dr mario s final smash should copy ness s final smash but with pills
@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779
3 жыл бұрын
Diagnosis - Doctor Mario (Doc) releases viruses from his coat. After 5 seconds, anyone hit or infected by a user hit is given cancer (virus) Cancer repeatedly damages the infected, at around 10% per second for 5 seconds. After five seconds, infected players will be launched. (I wrote this on the toilet)
@silvergalaxia8538
5 жыл бұрын
One’s a doctor. The end. Edit: it would be cool to see doctor mario have an original moveset, like using a stethoscope or vaccine needles to attack people with
@thegreatgmantheguy
5 жыл бұрын
because they wanted to focus Dr Mario as a "Melee character" on the select screen.
@inkycat7167
5 жыл бұрын
The worst reason for this Mario concepts
@samuelberry8267
5 жыл бұрын
Yo this is the perfect Moveset for beating Karen
@bl6973
5 жыл бұрын
Azure Yume *WHEEEEEEEEEEEZE*
@nicothescout1684
5 жыл бұрын
I mean, Doc in his games pretty much only gives drugs to stop big bad virus, nothing that special.
@misterlist3140
5 жыл бұрын
Someone: *asks about the differences between mario and dr mario* Everyone: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
@KumaTorey
5 жыл бұрын
so many characters in ultimate made me almost forget Dr Mario exists. I used him in melee back when just cuz I thought throwing pills at people was funny.
@julo_ghost
4 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? No difference with Nair! Here are the differences I found: -The sweet spot of Dr. Mario's version is at the end of the attack. -The sweet spot of Mario is at the start. -Dr. Mario's version is dealing more damage at the end of the attack. And just for your information, all the differences with the Nair is in the "Tips section" of the game! But, it's ok. Everyone makes mistakes! ;)
@muna5816
4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@simoncheatle5566
3 жыл бұрын
How did he not notice that difference
@snufkin8940
3 жыл бұрын
You just murdered him with that smiley face
@antonero1787
3 жыл бұрын
@@snufkin8940 HAHA
@thegreygoblin5165
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@devanarcher7054
5 жыл бұрын
I find the Final Smashes humorous though. Both of their Neutral Specials are iconic, fire and pills. And Final Smashes which are activated by the neutral special button are super powered beefed up versions of their respective iconic power.
@miguelsierra3767
5 жыл бұрын
I had a dream once where docs final smash was changed, he flipped out his white cape and captured enemies into a big pill bottle and then using both of his arms, rapidly launched various pills into it and cause repeated damage until the bottle burst open... I still think about it sometimes
@ethancoho8801
5 жыл бұрын
@@miguelsierra3767 that's always how I envisioned an alternate final smash for him
@Dragoryu3000
5 жыл бұрын
I think Mario's Final Smash really fits his "everyman" status. It's a fairly basic, suped-up version of his Neutral B. Rather than a reference to anything in particular, it's more so an introduction to the concept of Final Smashes. I do think Doc's could be something more unique, though.
@devanarcher7054
5 жыл бұрын
@@Dragoryu3000 that's a good analysis! (Although it doesn't reference anything specific in particular, it does reference his iconic fire powers he's had since Super Mario Bros.) He's also had it since Brawl and I think it was the very first Final Smash revealed and shown off
@Siphillex
4 жыл бұрын
Devan Archer I thought Mario’s Final Smash was a reference to his big fireball attack (forgot the name) from Super Mario RPG?
@Aidenkun64
4 жыл бұрын
I would've preferred Dr. Mario to keep the speed and recovery of Mario. It would make it so Dr. Mario could actually be decently high on the tier list as a harder hitting but less combo-focused version of Mario. I don't know why Nintendo hasn't implemented these changes as it wouldn't make Dr. Mario broken and would make pretty much everyone happy, including myself as I've found myself wanting to play the character on multiple occasions but then I realize he sucks and just play Mario instead.
@xxx-ff9gw
2 жыл бұрын
Nahh iway prefer doc to normies Mario
@funny250wall
2 жыл бұрын
@@xxx-ff9gw yeah doc way better
@spiritualak5147
2 жыл бұрын
Doc is just slow but once you get used to him he’s pretty good his down special and back throw is his bread and butter
@itz_owenxd8455
Жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I don’t want doc to change,I like him just the way he is. Being slower,Stronger,Bad recovery and Low-Bottom tier but seeing him change would be cool!
@Dr.PaiPai
11 ай бұрын
@@spiritualak5147If Dr.Mario kept Mario's speed and recovery, then there would be no reason to use Mario. Also, he would be top character.
@bc_gaming4502
5 жыл бұрын
To the people who didn't watch the video yet, the difference is that one's a plumber and one has a PhD
@BroadwayRonMexico
4 жыл бұрын
Dr Mario doesn't have a degree or license. Miyamoto himself has said Dr Mario is basically a back-alley doctor
@cometaHavoc
5 жыл бұрын
When people talk shit about doc they always forget Doctor Tornado.
@MagcargoMan
4 жыл бұрын
No they don't. They just remember how Mario used to have it before it got replaced by terrible, terrible FLUDD.
@chiefbeef5590
4 жыл бұрын
@@MagcargoMan fludd is crazy good though
@N12015
4 жыл бұрын
@@chiefbeef5590 And Mario still has a tornado, in the form of his down air.
@davidll4334
4 жыл бұрын
@@MagcargoMan in ultimate? Or which game
@c0ppets_
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidll4334 every game but 64.
@Buddrking
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always seen doctor Mario as a completely different person from Mario not just Mario as a doctor
@whitekittyamberheart7241
5 жыл бұрын
He's Mario from another Dimension.
@marcymein9626
5 жыл бұрын
@@whitekittyamberheart7241 "okay, we're going to have to talk about parallel universes"
@Shard_Soldier
5 жыл бұрын
Or Mario just abused Double Cherries.
@mythosinfinite6736
5 жыл бұрын
He's from the Doctor universe, where the art of practicing lifesaving is a way of life. Anyone can have a PHD -- even a literal, actual infant.
@benhuang2773
5 жыл бұрын
The third Mario Brother?
@Folutu
4 жыл бұрын
Unsure if it's been said, but Dr. Mario's pills also cannot be absorbed like Mario's Fireballs can. They count as physical projectiles, rather than energy projectiles which affects how you deal with them.
@sosclabab
5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if his final smash was just playing a game of dr mario
@RacingSnails64
5 жыл бұрын
spinch it should be, idk how they never added that.
@wyattpolaska9070
4 жыл бұрын
my tits just have a virus spawn at the bottom and dr Mario plays dr Mario plays dr Mario to fix it
@Shiny_Rayz
4 жыл бұрын
So sorta like SM4SH DK's final smash and how it play a rhythm part referencing the og DK Country
@gacha_king8117
4 жыл бұрын
u missed that dr mario's side special has more vertical reach than mario's.
@shaplaflower
3 жыл бұрын
Alex be like - bruh I said no hitbox differences
@TradeParaVidaToda
3 жыл бұрын
@@shaplaflower that’s not a hit box difference lol
@diegogreninja3668
3 жыл бұрын
Dr marios side special in the air thows oponnents upwards and mario's forward
@TheBladeOfLight90
5 жыл бұрын
I remember when I played Smash 4 and I didn't know whether to choose Mario or Dr. Mario as a Main ... so I decided to choose both ...
@LocalCourier99
4 жыл бұрын
Though I prefer doc's meteor attack because it feels more rewarding when you kill with it
@GareBearGamingDood
5 жыл бұрын
5:12 So the doc Yeet his enemies.
@MFBandit
5 жыл бұрын
Yup and it's the 3rd Strongest backthrow in the game
@Shiny_Rayz
4 жыл бұрын
Number one belonging to the god himself: *PK Fire*
@MFBandit
4 жыл бұрын
@@Shiny_Rayz i think that Incineroar has the strongest backthrow in the game now, even without revenge
@HydroBird18
4 жыл бұрын
Dr Mario: cure people Mario:Saves princess and defeat bowser Dr Mario:Stonger “Tell me that makes sense”
@RyanBrown2K5
5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Mario is still one of the first Echoes, as far as I'm concerned. And that's not a bad thing.
@davidacus956
4 жыл бұрын
You're right, but Luigi was the OG echo fighter
@chimcham300
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, just a little info on the pill and fire neutral bs, when going up against Game and watch, GW’s bucket absorbs the fireballs, while reflects the pills.
@dinglebutt300
5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Doc main and I love him as is
@darkdoctor1915
5 жыл бұрын
heck yeah he is
@jameswright1351
5 жыл бұрын
Doc is better than mario
@darkdoctor1915
5 жыл бұрын
@@jameswright1351, Of course he is
@hoodedgenius3329
5 жыл бұрын
Same I hate using mario
@darkdoctor1915
5 жыл бұрын
@@hoodedgenius3329, while I play Dr. Mario more, I do like playing Mario, but I play Doc more
@ianmurphy3840
4 жыл бұрын
If I would change Dr. Mario dash attack, he could use a clip board to bash the appoint and give it a bit vertical launch distant and help him to make some set ups. This idea was from Kirby's Doctor Ability from Planet Robobot.
@ElectroBlastLuigi
5 жыл бұрын
Here's what I learned: Mario is more of a speedy character. Dr. Mario is more offensive.
@cag_0k642
5 жыл бұрын
Both are very offensive, the difference is that Mario has frequent but short bursts of damage because he gets a follow up out of like everything, doc doesn’t have frequent but short bursts, he does however have more damage output which makes up for it, the real difference is how they get in and how many times they need to get in
@ifalone
5 жыл бұрын
With Docs pills and cape, he can be very defensive. Same goes to Mario with his F.L.U.D.D. and cape.
@sirkfctho
4 жыл бұрын
crybaby How is F.L.U.D.D. Offensive?
@cag_0k642
4 жыл бұрын
Electric Zombie Loli Free stage control
@sirkfctho
4 жыл бұрын
Cag Frfx I’d say that’s defensive if anything
@johnochoa1544
4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that Mario's fireballs are an energy based projectile, while Dr. Mario's pills are a physical projectile. This means that certain characters that absorb energy based projectiles, like Ness, Lucas, and Mr. Game & Watch, can't absorb Dr. Mario's pills (granted, Game & Watch could still reflect it, but he can't build up his Oil Panic).
@skillmotionanimation108
5 жыл бұрын
Mario's Nair sweet spot is at the beginning of the move, docs is at the end.
@superioriceman5547
5 жыл бұрын
I’d change doc’s final smash to where he crushes the opponent with a microscope which takes the opponent to a place full of the germs and they just beat the crap out-of the opponent
@EPMTUNES
5 жыл бұрын
The neutral air is the only attack in the game that increases in damage the later its hit
@kalebk3907
4 жыл бұрын
The sweet spot of Mario’s nair is at the beginning of the move, the sweet spot of Docs nair is at the end
@lmtalpha6382
5 жыл бұрын
When Dr. Mario's forward air sweetspot does roughly the same damage as a knee or a lightning kick...
@captainmega6310
5 жыл бұрын
But not the knockback.
@wingedbluj1674
4 жыл бұрын
@@captainmega6310 to balance it out seeing that the Knee of Justice and Lightning Kick have MUCH shorter sweet spot windows
@deadslinger3r196
4 жыл бұрын
There is a difference in final smash attack. Mario fs is wider which causes people (even at high percent) can some times fall out of it while Dr. Mario is more closer together causing people at high percent less likely to fall out of it.
@ethancoho8801
5 жыл бұрын
personally I feel like Mario could be changed while DR.Mario stays the same, I don't have any examples right now because there's just so much to pull from the mario games
@dougtheghoul2845
5 жыл бұрын
Cappy used in throws.
@ethancoho8801
5 жыл бұрын
@@dougtheghoul2845 EXACTLY!! that's a great idea!
@sheepdoghr415
5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking throwing cappy or super star Mario as his final smash but that’s an object already in the game.
@ethancoho8801
5 жыл бұрын
@@sheepdoghr415 that's a pretty cool idea! one of my ideas is having his up special be his galaxy spin attack and just making his second jump look like the traditional Mario jump
@angrychicken7097
5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Mario could represent what Mario originally was in the first couple Smash games, where Mario could have a completely different moveset to represent his games (Side special Cappy, Final Smash Dinosaur, etc.).
@kamerontheultramaster7253
Жыл бұрын
For Dr. Mario, I would give his FS more vertical range. That way, opponents will have to jump really high to avoid it. But as a trade-off, it will have less attack power and horizontal range. For Mario’s FS, I would give him more attack power and horizontal range but less vertical range.
@adamthesaint3044
5 жыл бұрын
As a dr Mario main I’m glad I’m not the only person who knows this knowledge
@telosladd7706
5 жыл бұрын
I main the doc and live by it. So learning about mashing the b button during the down b is a god send
@darkdoctor1915
5 жыл бұрын
Alex.EXE, Doc's neutral air deals more knockback the longer it's out Doc's side b has is vertical and Back throw has no collateral hit box
@jaidenester8714
3 жыл бұрын
The nairs have a slight difference, actually. Mario’s nair is most powerful when starting the attack, while Doc’s gets stronger towards the end of the move. Their side specials also have different hitboxes, with Doc’s being a little taller, but shorter in length.
@germanazurin1501
5 жыл бұрын
I wish Doc's Final Smash was more like he throws the opponents with his back throw into a virus eating segment from Dr. Mario World and they just die if they are over 100%. Also if we could buff Doc, I'd say that he should share the same mobility stats as Mario with running speeds and jump height.
@ani_star9729
4 жыл бұрын
But then what would his downside be for his higher power? It would be OP for him to have the speed and height of Mario with more power
@Stefanga44
4 жыл бұрын
@@ani_star9729 his recovery would maybe even be better than marios then Better horizontal than marios and almost as far as mario vertical
@peytongonzaga7109
4 жыл бұрын
Doc's nair gets more powerful as the move goes on (late nair does more damagel). You can also combo pills into fair or other kill moves at higher percent.
@jonahschwenk3135
5 жыл бұрын
Basically, if you don't want to watch the whole video: Dr. Mario is slower but with stronger attacks Mario is faster with weaker attacks
@pizzawonderer5024
4 жыл бұрын
Ultra brain
@jorgem.9690
3 жыл бұрын
And, Dr Mario has the worst recovery while Marios recovery is really good
@pizzawonderer5024
3 жыл бұрын
@@jorgem.9690 Nah Marios recovery still kinda sucks.
@LucasBent
4 жыл бұрын
The hitbox on Doc's upsmash stays out for longer, making it less vulnerable and more reliable for hitting in the front
@gamrage
5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a "What's the Difference" with Lucina and Chrom? I feel like that would shed a lot of light onto some misconceptions on how they're played.
@shreddleddbetter7053
5 жыл бұрын
Lucina and Chrom? Do you mean Marth? Because Marth's Echo is Lucina
@RacingSnails64
5 жыл бұрын
XuShuFan316 how Marth/Lucina and Roy/Chrom differ specifically i think
@gamrage
5 жыл бұрын
@@shreddleddbetter7053 Well, Roy and Marth were clones in Melee with some differences in hitboxes and knock-back. In Smash 4, they diverged quite a bit. I feel like Lucina and Chrom are a good middle point of comparison since they "AREN'T" Echo Fighters.
@N12015
5 жыл бұрын
@@gamrage And also, bot lack of sweetspots and sourspots.
@IAm-zo1bo
4 жыл бұрын
Chrom and lucina is a good example of how they have more differences than people think
@lasercraft32
Жыл бұрын
2:10 I'm gonna stop you right there buddy... Dr. Mario's neutral air has more power at the latter end of the hitbox. Unlike Mario's where its stronger at the start and the late hit is weaker, Doc is weaker at the start and stronger with the late hit. 3:30 "nothing meaningful"... except Doc's pill is easier to follow up with since the vertical knockback inadvertently leaves them more open to attack, since they can't react as quickly with aerial hitstun and it has a more favorable angle. 4:59 Doc's down throw has a more vertical knockback angle, more knockback, but less knockback scaling. This means it can be a reliable combo starter even at higher percentages... Mario, meanwhile, launches at a diagonal angle which pretty much removes all combo potential when the oppenent is past 60%-100%
@bije277
5 жыл бұрын
O I didn’t know dr. Mario couldn’t spike with fair, I just thought I was bad at timing
@wingedbluj1674
4 жыл бұрын
Nah, to spike with doc you need to use *D O W N W A R D A E R I A L*
@daylawashere
4 жыл бұрын
@@wingedbluj1674 how do you even say up-air? *U A I R*
@classicmariochannel3410
4 жыл бұрын
But..Dr.Mario Fair is in top 3
@unregisteredhypercam2355
5 жыл бұрын
One's a doctor forcing pills into people's throats, one's a plumber that saves a princess from a dragon turtle
I think that Doc is perfect like this but about the Fs I think it would've be a cinematic one, which he would launch the opponent on the stage of the first game of him, then a lot of viruses would damage the opponent, while Doc would make a "Special Pill" (from the 3Ds game) that will kill the viruses and launch the opponent far away because of the xplosion. Well thanx if you had the patience and creativity to read this and imagine the FS.
@Drake_Waffle
5 жыл бұрын
Idea: Just take some things form doctor Mario world and a unique fighter
@victoriafisher2218
4 жыл бұрын
6:07 Different Final Smashes: Mario- Mega Mario. Mario turns into mega mario. It's basically Pacman's final smash but with a bigger hitbox and can only go horizontally up to 45 degrees up or down. Dr. Mario- Puzzle Doctor Doc throws pills into the air and they all come crashing down like in his original puzzle games. He also takes a stance like in his puzzle games and stands still until the final smash is over. Edit: the pills would fall slightly closer to opponents. If the opponents are really far apart from each other, the pills will fall far away from each other as well. (The pills would fall from the top of the screen btw)
@sodaleopard
5 жыл бұрын
Easy answer, one is a generic guy and one is a generic doctor.
@MagcargoMan
4 жыл бұрын
>Mario >Generic
@sodaleopard
4 жыл бұрын
MagcargoMan you don’t seem to know what i mean by generic, do you?
@MagcargoMan
4 жыл бұрын
@@sodaleopard I did, but I just find it funny to describe the most iconic gaming character of all time as generic, even if it wasn't in the way you meant.
@JamesDarcon2007
3 жыл бұрын
So something that real stuck out to me when pointing out how similiar their Final Smashes are is that I'm REALLY hoping that in the next Smash game, that they really go all in on making each character unique. Like they can cut down the roster significantly and just give every single character unique moves and properties and that goes double for their Final Smashes!
@rudeonion2816
3 жыл бұрын
Doctor Mario’s Nair is stronger at the END of the attack, while Mario’s Nair is stronger at the start
@MBYui
4 ай бұрын
"You couldn't find a difference in their Neutral Airs" Is he actually joking?
@daffyfable1983
4 жыл бұрын
Dr Mario’s various phd’s are weighing him down.
@davidthecommenter
4 жыл бұрын
also his incredible pill storage inside that coat
@daffyfable1983
4 жыл бұрын
dAvId rObInSoN Let’s also not forget his stethoscope.
@davidthecommenter
4 жыл бұрын
Sora Akatsuki copying metal man with that blade on his head
@DoubleCFiend
4 жыл бұрын
[Tests all the grounded attacks for differences in damage, sweetspots, knockback, etc.] "Their neutral air seems to be pretty much the same" [Casually ignores one of the most notorious distinctions that Dr. Mario has had since Melee]
@alstongoodwin5869
5 жыл бұрын
Change DR.M Up B (😥😌Y is his recovery so bad?)
@RacingSnails64
5 жыл бұрын
Alston Maturino best we can do currently is repeatedly tap his down b first to get some extra air before using up b
@N12015
5 жыл бұрын
@@RacingSnails64 The ending lag in Down B is pretty high, so high that is almost useless for recovery.
@alstongoodwin5869
5 жыл бұрын
If he could instead get a Luigi recovery and a Mario multi hit instead of vice versa
@roboticjo2183
5 жыл бұрын
Luigi's recovery is also pretty bad though. I'd honestly just change the distance he travels, as his Up B is amazing to kill (especially out of shield)
@alstongoodwin5869
5 жыл бұрын
Still tho, its higher than his and Mario's recovery
@strawberrana
4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that the game doesn't register doc's attacks as fire attacks (i.e. they don't immediately explode the explosive crate item)
@stalebaguette5091
5 жыл бұрын
The difference you may ask, I have 2 words for you *DOWNWARD AIREAL!*
@CalamityTerra
5 жыл бұрын
*DOWNWARD SPECIAL*
@jameswright1351
5 жыл бұрын
BACK THROW
@stalebaguette5091
5 жыл бұрын
*FOWARD AIR*
@Darth-Plagueis2024
2 ай бұрын
Dr. Mario’s final smash should make Large pills fall from the sky like in the Dr. Mario video game and do more damage than Mario’s since he’s later in the game to unlock.
@periwinkuru
5 жыл бұрын
Mario's final smash should be him quickly running across the stage after eating a mega mushroom. Dr. Mario should have pills randomly fall from the top.
@somisimons
Жыл бұрын
my moveset for dr.mario (sorry if it got bad) Up air: It does an animation similar to mario's up tilt, but in the air, and it knocksback up and forward. forward air: He does the first Mario's forward air (the n64 one) Back air: He does two back kicks, but if you mash the button he'll do extra kicks. Forward smash: He does Mario's first forward smash ( the n64 one again) but he holds a pill,and if the pill hits you, it will do more damage and knockback. Up smash: He kicks up and raises one arm, making a pose similar to the mario jump from the first "Super mario bros." Game. Down smash: He quickly holds 2 pills and spins around. Neutral special: he does the same thing, but with a different animation, he just throws the pill instead of throwing it like it's a fireball. Up special: He holds a very big pill, puts it on his feet, and jumps on it, after he jumps, the pill will fall slowly just like in his games,and the pill does damage, of course. Down special: It's the same thing, but on the last hit, he will throw 1 pill on each side (left, and right) that will work as fireballs,but they will do very low damage and very low knockback. (Another thing, the more you mash the button, more pills will appear.) Side special: It will be luigi's side special, But he's going to wear the cape and he's going to do the same pose he does when he flies in super mario 64. Up tilt: he uses both hands instead of one, if any character is attacked by both hands, it will double the damage and knockback. Side tilt: he slaps instead of kicking, that's all. Down tilt: he does a karate move, just like luigi's forward air. Final smash: He will behave the same in his game, he will throw giant pills at enemies, I don't care if it's automatic or not. I know, I know, it's bad, but from 0 to 10, what do you think?
@smdickinson8316
3 жыл бұрын
Mario's back throw also has a hit box. So when you grab someone and swing them around it can hit other players or hit nana for ice climbers. It's good for not getting punished. Doc's doesn't hit anyone when he picks them up, but the animation looks a bit faster
@mrdude88
4 жыл бұрын
I like how they kept Mario’s original down special and made it to a attack, I wish they did the same for Charizard and allow him to keep Rock Smash in his arsenal.
@Magisterva
4 жыл бұрын
There is something different with their nairs marios you want to hit as soon as possible while docs will actually do more dmg the longer it has been out
@ThundagaT2
4 жыл бұрын
I would change Doc's final smash into a cutscene where he traps the opponents in a bottle, and then plays Dr Mario with them complete with the viruses showing up.
@thenorfnonly3486
4 жыл бұрын
A change that I’ve noticed between their final smashes: Mario’s is very inconsistent and hard to land properly. Doc’s, however seems to have an easier time picking up foes.
@1cheezyboi31
4 жыл бұрын
I'd change Dr. Mario's final smash to the jar and him dropping in pills
@DryIhs
3 жыл бұрын
In case no one has, I want to point out that Dr. Mario's neutral air actually does more damage and knockback the longer the attack has been out.
@Minetic
4 жыл бұрын
Well one is a doctor while the other is a hotel manager, demolition man, teacher, farmer, cat, kart driver, turtle Slayer, and I guess plumber but that last one has yet to be confirmed.
@wrongtime9097
4 жыл бұрын
The difference between Dr. Mario’s and Mario’s nair is that Mario’s deals more damage towards the beginning active frames (when the move is first thrown out) while Dr. Mario’s deals more damage towards the end (just before the hitbox ends)
@sonicsaver2138
3 жыл бұрын
I think for Dr. Marios final smash the opponent is trapped in a giant bottle and Dr. Mario starts throwing pills down crushing the opponent and when he's done, he'll take a deep breath, look up and get startled, reveling a stampede of viruses and they all rush into the bottle crushing the opponent on their way.
@orizin8102
3 жыл бұрын
The difference is: Dr. Mario is big brain (he's a doctor) Mario is smol brain (he's a plumber)
@guycappy
4 жыл бұрын
Instead of it being a double-pill attack, Dr. Mario's final smash would be pills dropping down the top-center of the screen and then moving in random directions, referencing his normal games.
@XStiK_
5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Mario’s final smash should’ve been a cutscene where he takes out a jar and captures whoever is next to him and then the person gets attacked by viruses in the jar while getting damaged by falling pills and then gets squashed by a giant pill at the end along with the viruses
@Nick-ly4gv
4 жыл бұрын
I remember that Nintendo itself say that the black costume Doc is a "Unlicensed Doctor"
@soapypringles
5 жыл бұрын
Doc's final smash should just be him diagnosing the opponents with the dead.
@SkipperWing
4 жыл бұрын
If I were to change a "Final Smash,"... I'd change Mario's to be "Mega Mario" (as a counter to "Giga Bowser"), since size changing has been a major property of his moreso than his pyrokinesis. Mario would eat/absorb a Mega-Mushroom and either: -punch the area guided by the target reticle (similar to Giga Bowser). -stomp off in a direction (similar to Beast Ganon), trouncing and trampling anyone in his way.
@sans7052
5 жыл бұрын
This video actually convinced me that Mario and Doc are much more similar than i thought... XD
@cms_bb8817
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to point this out but Dr. Mario neutral air is actually pretty different from Mario’s in that the lingering hitbox of Dr. Mario’s neutral air is more powerful than the starting hitbox, while Mario is the opposite.
@EggmanlandResident
4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how many channels miss the Nair difference. It's right there in the tips section. I look at it every time a new character drops.
@pacoramon9468
4 жыл бұрын
The salary of a plumber vs a doctor
@whenthe0007Owen
2 ай бұрын
I love that doc is just a mix of luigi and mario to have another character, thats being lazy in a good way right there 👍
@PhantomFearYT
3 жыл бұрын
Same moves, slightly different adjustments, a new move or two - sounds like it should be an echo.
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