People love to talk about Trae’s defense but if you actually watch the hawks you can see he at least tries and buys in on the defensive end he just lacks the physical capabilities to stop some of these guys, my biggest and really only problem with Trae is his shot selection, he takes some wild shots and especially loves hero ball 3s when it isn’t always necessary
@MaximusR93
26 күн бұрын
If he tries or not, he just can’t play defense regardless.
@omarbojang2602
26 күн бұрын
@@MaximusR93given his effort I think he can be a solid team defender with the right personal around him, like he’ll never be a super positive defender but he could be a null defender or slightly positive
@MaximusR93
26 күн бұрын
@@omarbojang2602I don’t think so, I mean if he had a bunch of all defensive players it’s possible that you could hide him, but he will never be a positive defender. I’m a spurs fan and I really didn’t want them to trade for him, even Wemby’s cleanup ability couldn’t offset Trae getting torched on the perimeter. He’s got a bad attitude as well, no thanks
@RomnysGonzalez
26 күн бұрын
Damn. The standard is so damn low that "trying" is enough to by pass the flaw?
@lalremruatpuiarenthlei4665
26 күн бұрын
He is very similar to Steph in his early days, too small and weak to be a decent defender.
@akeembrown7661
26 күн бұрын
Swear trae young is the first player I changed my mind from being overrated to underrated on. It’s literally disrespectful now how they talk abt him as if he’s even not even an allstar😂
@zay_tiggygaming
23 күн бұрын
I saw somebody compare him to monta Ellis. The disrespect is insane
@tuanas458
19 күн бұрын
Hes not underrated or overrated. He's just good as he is and everyone knows that.
@akeembrown7661
19 күн бұрын
@@tuanas458 1st when he came in “he’s the next Steph curry/ he’s better than Luka/ he’s a mvp blah blah” I’m like 😑 ok Then “now he’s a scrub/ he can’t lead a team/ he’s not even a allstar much less superstar/ he should js be a sixth man” now I’m like 🤦♂️ Ppl js needa chill on him 😂 stop overreacting
@tuanas458
19 күн бұрын
@@akeembrown7661 When all of NY chants, "fk TraeYoung", you know you doing some damage lol. But man I remember when I saw TY play, I thought he's hair is weird but ok. I don't keep up with bball so don't really care all that much. But then you start to see TY's pickup and training videos outside of regular season, you get a gauge for how good he really is. His play style is really nice and he's doing it all at the top level which is nuts considering how good Jeremy Lin was and now he's playing in China. So to do what Trae is doing for his height and weight is nuts. The NBA is extremely competitive and TY is dominating it. That's scary if you think about it. Really the coolest thing about watching trae pllay is for his shear bball IQ because it goes to show how much more important it is beyond all else.
@bignamek
14 күн бұрын
I would agree that it is quite the stark contrast in how the opinion on him has changed on him. However, it is accurate to describe him as a player as some who ultimately can't lead a team, and the run they had in 2021 was shown to be flukey.
@ORBrett
26 күн бұрын
It’s his hairline. If a guy got that much money and can’t maintain a hairline, how you gonna trust him to maintain your offense?
@Terry-w6m
23 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@beatzbystackz2589
26 күн бұрын
I’ll never understand how ppl downplay 25 and 10 😂😂😂
@timbertron1
25 күн бұрын
@@beatzbystackz2589 tell me about it. But he's "overrated" LOL
@andredornelles8014
23 күн бұрын
Russ averaged a triple double for multiple seasons and still played losing basketball, that’s the issue
@timbertron1
23 күн бұрын
@@andredornelles8014 the 3 seasons after KD left, which were peak Russ, OKC had winning records each year.
@andredornelles8014
23 күн бұрын
@@timbertron1 I mean competitive in the playoffs
@zay_tiggygaming
23 күн бұрын
@@andredornelles8014well it was just Russ and he's not really hard to stop in a 7 games series as we have seen. doesn't shoot or pass as well as Trae either and has regressed. Trae isn't even in his prime doing this
@everyotherbar65
26 күн бұрын
This is the guy that single handedly ended Ben Simmons career
@Terry-w6m
23 күн бұрын
Thank you I’ve been saying this for years
@Gratefulness648
19 күн бұрын
How?
@_sm00thi3
10 күн бұрын
@@Gratefulness648 kzitem.info/news/bejne/jnt-p2iLoYumhI4 and also kzitem.infobcq8Kv3XB0A are good examples. its a running joke in the nba how ben simmons passed up a wide open dunk because of the elite shot blocker trae young 🤣🤣
@shawnandzeb
26 күн бұрын
I think a big thing people get mixed up about Trae is the "inefficient" part because they see his FG% when in reality he's above league average in 3PT%, FT%, Mid Range%, and TS% the only thing he's truly inefficient at in scoring is his finishing at the rim and that can be attributed to his size, the paint being clogged because of the way his team is built and other things Donovan Mitchell has a career 45/37/84 splits on 57% TS Trae Young has a career 44/36/87 splits on 58% TS difference between them is Mitchell is very crafty at the rim so his FG% is usually higher than Trae and he has more strength, giving him that ability to use the contact to his advantage
@shawnandzeb
26 күн бұрын
People bring up defense when literally most star guards with his volume are bad defenders too and then people like to bring up turnovers when all high usage guys have high turnover numbers Steve Nash and Magic Johnson have both led the league in turnovers multiple times, that's the price of being an offensive engine who has the ball more than anyone else on the floor
@shawnandzeb
26 күн бұрын
i wish people would bring up real flaws in Trae's game like his rim finishing and iso scoring, then that's actually valid criticisms because he's good in the clutch on offense and defense surprisingly (i have stats and clips to back this claim up) he's a great playmaker, above average shooter, and has elevated mid level rosters to high level offenses in terms of PPG and offensive rating
@6manYT
26 күн бұрын
Precisely, Like with those numbers I showed from 2020, Trae is more efficient than Tatum and Mitchell from a TS percentage scoring more points per game. I think they might be more resilient playoff scorers because of their size but I think Traes had some bad luck his last few playoff series' with matchups and supporting cast. Hes in that realm at the very least but isn't discussed in that way
@6manYT
26 күн бұрын
Dw Zeb, Dyson, Zach and Jalen will save his legacy
@shawnandzeb
26 күн бұрын
@@6manYT i need it
@realdreamerschangetheworld7470
26 күн бұрын
This was an incredibly balanced view of Trae’s situation. Thanks for the video!
@MimieThalie
26 күн бұрын
Trae and Risacher playing together will be genial. And like for luka, criticisms about his defense are excuses to not recognise his talent. I just say I love this guy because he has a funny and subtle game, that Americans seem not able to like.
@terrence0258
26 күн бұрын
Trae Young has had a competent defense for one season of his career. It was the '21 season when Clint Capela balled out and finished 6th in DPOY voting. Just so happens that the Hawks went to the conference finals that year. Capela has declined every season since and so has the Hawks' win percentage. Trae is a walking top 5 offense. He's never played with another all-NBA caliber player, and the Hawks consistently finish at the top of the league in offense. Surround this guy with defenders that can make an open shot and I guarantee the Hawks will be right back in the mix in the East.
@jeffp1629
26 күн бұрын
What’s so frustrating is that the FO has somewhat tried to get those type of guys - that’s why they got hunter and DJ in the first place, but both of their defensive impact got worse once they were in Atlanta. I hope we start Daniels and Risacher (if he pans out) on the wing to hopefully give us extra length and defense. Bring Bogi and Hunter off the bench for scoring.
@user-by3yu1xq8q
26 күн бұрын
And that was still below league average if we have even a top 10 we could be back in the ecf
@k.j.r8575
23 күн бұрын
The only real difference is Trae is not athletic as the others or marketable . Still great player .
@Bread-Loaf-VR
26 күн бұрын
Bro you always speak facts keep it yo great work I mean it
@6manYT
26 күн бұрын
Breadloaf I appreciate that my brother, genuinely
@patrickcasella
26 күн бұрын
W take. Been waiting for someone to bring this up. I never hear Trae in conversations about the best players in the NBA, but stats say otherwise. Spot on with what you said about his passing too. Ironically, despite the league saying he's the most overrated player, I think he just might be underrated after all.
@rockysalvatore435
11 күн бұрын
@@patrickcasella curry fans are insecure they can't argue his stats
@preflightsnow
26 күн бұрын
It’s a team game, no player is perfect but Trae is a damn good player. A competent team around him and he can contend like he was showing in the ‘21 playoffs
@ant4613
26 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. Nothing but facts. The Trae disrespect makes no sense and needs to end.
@4ktkaram395
23 күн бұрын
Trae Young will get his respect in the coming years, I truly believe once he has a competent roster around him he could potentially win an MVP award
@4ktkaram395
23 күн бұрын
Dyson Daniels found the perfect backcourt mate in Trae young. He’s gonna get clean looks all the time he just needs to knock them down, and we already know about his élite defense
@bkken2990
26 күн бұрын
I LOVE YOU MAN!! Even going back to the ECF run you are one of the very few people with an objective take on the Hawks as a team and Trae Young as a player. I will always be an honorary Pistons supporter because because I feel like you do the same for us. As a Hawks fan it feels so hard to be seen because nobody watches the team but for some reason everybody has an (incorrect) opinion about the team. Thank you so much for your videos on us.
@6manYT
26 күн бұрын
I appreciate that a lot bro! Yeh I wish I could've made more hawks vids the last couple years but it's been a little rough for you guys. I like the direction you're heading now though with Jalen, Dys, Zach and big O alongside trae. I think those are the right types of players and im excited to watch you guys again. Appreciate the kind words a lot though
@uno1728
26 күн бұрын
Build an actual team around him and see what happens
@Faddahrogeroftrinibago
20 күн бұрын
The Hawks are a trash franchise. They don’t know how to build around players, Free Trae
@psykhout
16 күн бұрын
Hardest player in the league to build around. How many stretch 5s and 3 and d players in the league? Them shits don’t grow on trees
@barc13
26 күн бұрын
I think his biggest problem is being drafted same time as Luka and since then living in his shadow kinda
@blablablaa14
26 күн бұрын
How is Luka's shadow impacting his play in a whole other, much easier conference? They can't be better than the pacers
@timbertron1
26 күн бұрын
Agree. From the moment the trade happened Trae was a terrible player and Luka was amazing according to the media. It's been the same narrative ever since. Only way to shut these fools up is winning like in 2021.
@ubadman1
25 күн бұрын
@@timbertron12021 was fluky. And arguing there isnt a gap between luka and trae is being disengenious. Luka is perrenial all nba 1st team. Trae isnt even always an all star
@ndnd7614
25 күн бұрын
Luka is miles about trae young in every aspect… even defence!
@timbertron1
25 күн бұрын
@@ubadman1 you do realise all star and all NBA are voted on by the media? Which just follows the narrative.
@harrislaurent429
25 күн бұрын
Dejounte not as good as some ppl think, he had A TON of offensive freedom and slacked off on D. There’s a reason why since becoming an all star, he’s never had a winning season and the hawks were better off without him
@zay_tiggygaming
23 күн бұрын
too arrogant and emotional
@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207
22 күн бұрын
Murray good .. Thing is for Trae to be Trae he has to be the chef in the kitchen. Mfs wanted Trae to be Steph and not have the ball in his hands when he is a TRUE PG who needs the ball in his hands and Murray a true pg also.
@urbaindelva7869
15 күн бұрын
He probably salcked off on D because of the offensive responsibility that he has. Also, Dejounte has not been on many winning rosters, so you can't card him for that.
@jordanversteeg6693
26 күн бұрын
Great video. Glad to see the front office is making moves to actually build around Trae with size, Defense and shooting. Trae will take care of the rest
@4ktkaram395
23 күн бұрын
If you look at the Atlanta Hawks front office in the roster, that will tell you all you need to know it’s very hard to win basketball games when you’re playing by yourself and your team is absolutely terrible. You put Trae Young on the Orlando Magic. He would be viewed as a top five player in the NBA.
@Donnmuney
13 күн бұрын
Trae Young is one of my favorite players in the league. But the Hawks do not surround him with a feasible team to win. People must forget he went to the conference finals a couple years back only losing to the eventual champ Bucks.
@William_Stephens
26 күн бұрын
Confirmation bias. So many analysts and pundits had Trae pegged to be a bust but he’s been putting egg on their faces. So now when they analyze Trae they are viewing him through a negative lens and highlighting his negatives and minimizing his positives. Skip Bayless got caught doing it by Paul Pierce when he was comparing him to Luka when it hit him that they are the same player. He tried to talk about his usage and turnovers only to have to admit Luka was basically the same. He tried to talk about Trae shooting a lot of 3’s at a relatively bad rate only to be immediately reminded that Luka does too. Then he tried to say “but the defense” only having to be reminded that Luka is a cone on defense. Because people said he would be a bust they are doing mental gymnastics to make it so.
@jonhoge153
26 күн бұрын
There are 2-5 guys who can score and pass on every team. Its doing all the other things on top of that, which is truly valuable in the league, thats why it gets pointed out that he doesnt do the other things. And before you try it, those flaws get pointed out in other stars like doncic too. If you are comparing 2 players with similar offensive stats, that dont play defense, you go with the taller one... because this is basketball.
@MuthafuckinPuddings
26 күн бұрын
Calling them the same player is just straight up wrong, though. Luka is a much more versatile and efficient scorer while also shooting at a higher volume. He's so much more deadly inside the arc and in the paint than Trae. He's also an elite rebounder compared to Trae.
@bailoch
26 күн бұрын
Luka’s defense got a lot better this year and is 6’7 230 lbs. Saying he’s a cone is a parroted take you got from some dumbass stat like “blow-by rate” when the Mavs defense is built around funneling guys to the paint. He led the playoffs in steals btw. Luka .382 on 10.6 threes compared to .373 on 8.7 attempts. Luka .487 on 23.6 att, Trae .430 (lol) on 18.7 att. Luka a better shooter and defender. You can hype up Trae all u want but don’t compare him to Luka.
@marlow7376
26 күн бұрын
Being 6’7 and bad on defence is not even close to as bad as being 6’0 and bad on defence especially in the modern nba
@marlow7376
26 күн бұрын
Also we say Luka be able to guard players like Shai, Harden and Ant in isolation in the playoffs so he can definitely step it up when it matters where as Trae will never not be a liability
@BennyLin718
26 күн бұрын
It’s the defense u can score n create as much offense as u want but wen u run into a Donavan Mitchell it don’t matter cuz he gone score on young every play down
@testing-ko9dp
26 күн бұрын
People will say his defense but the real reason is cause he cant play offball
@PrtyNeal
26 күн бұрын
He is too much of a liability on defense..
@user-tz5ck1xy5u
22 күн бұрын
He's like Iverson. You have to build the whole team around him, otherwise it won't work. Also, being traded for Luka means he will always be tied to arguably the greatest player of his generation.
@alexanderhenry9133
26 күн бұрын
Production does not equal impact. Averaging 10 assists per game is great but averaging over 4 turnovers per game is bad, better to average 8/3 or 7/2. His shot selection is poor. He isn't good at playing off-ball offense. He is bad at defense. Hawks fans go on about their top 10 or top 5 offense, when they have one of the very worst defenses in the league. That is why they cannot contend. And yet instead of admitting Trae Young plays a big part in that, the Hawks want to blame coaches and other players. Look past the box scores and the highlight reels. Eye test shows he is not a well rounded or versatile player, and he is not particularly efficient even at what he does best. Various advanced metrics like win shares per 48, box plus minus, VORP, etc show that he is not truly elite, for example Al Horford as a Hawk had better advanced metrics. If the Hawks can build a team full of good defenders and off-ball offensive threats around him, it could work very well, covering up his weaknesses and improving his efficiency. But that could be financially or schematically challenging. And his weaknesses will still exist which opponents will exploit especially in deep playoff runs. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but I do think he is not as good or impactful of a player as his points and assists per game suggest.
@jpseminole4100
24 күн бұрын
I think it's the same question Luka experienced, "what have you done for me lately". When they went to the Eastern Conference Finals he was a magician then the team re-tooled but it didn't work. It's a matter of people putting the blame on him but ignoring the deficiencies he covers
@j2sk
26 күн бұрын
i like trae man, his offense is crazy but he has always been bad on d. One could argue its his team but theres no reason they lose to the pistons in the 2020 ladder when he's putting up insane numbers. i feel he just needs the right system to play in. Like the celtics
@j0rdan172
26 күн бұрын
Honestly, the DJ trade isn’t bad but it isn’t the best. Especially if the Hawks want to become contenders in the playoffs. As an NBA fan, I still see the hawks as a play in team or less.
@Parentingautisminnyc
26 күн бұрын
I have to agree with you 💯 percent Trae young is a baller
@gaultierderrey4915
26 күн бұрын
Good video. I recall starting disliking trae’s game when he started to bump into defenders to get the FTs. I hope this hawks team works better for him
@PhonyPhoniPhone
26 күн бұрын
Did you like Brunson doing the same thing in the playoffs this year but being praised for it?
@zay_tiggygaming
23 күн бұрын
Hes really been one of the best players for years now. Its crazy hes the only one out of that stacked 2018 draft class that gets talked about this way. everybody else is a top player according to fans and media. I keep sayin if he ever leaves atl, its cuz he is not getting his respect he deserves
@visno
26 күн бұрын
defense is limited by his physical attributes. this can be made up for with proper roster construction but the hawks front office did not identify the right problem to address. they should have traded for rudy gobert in the 2023 off season when it was looking like the wolves made a mistake trading for him and realized they needed a better point guard. gobert would pair with trae very well because of his defensive anchoring and his lob catching radius. the hawks could have run a drop defensive scheme and funneled opposing players into gobert like how the jazz used to when they had him with spida.
@williamblake7386
20 күн бұрын
Iverson story(albeit less scoring more passing) Small, heliocentric, hard to build around, does not mesh with other stars, one good lucky run.
@cadfael3257
26 күн бұрын
Being hones the only thing that Trae lacks is a off ball game, players simply do not win without playing well of the ball
@riceontopstew
19 күн бұрын
i didnt know he was only 25, I feel like he's been in the league for like 10 years
@aarushshah2007
26 күн бұрын
Trae really needs a better roster
@MyNamesNotJaral
13 күн бұрын
Man I’m glad no teams want Trae Young. I don’t want him to leave Atlanta!!
@ChanBoogie310
26 күн бұрын
I don’t really know ow what it is either, but if I had to infer why his value may not be higher than DJ is maybe because with Trae skill set in today game there are already multiple guards and even forwards that can do what he does and I think his size and height and lack of defense (all together) doesn’t help him too well. Vs someone like DJ that can play multiple positions for you and at a height where it’s possible with his skill set on offense and defense. Another thing I can probably say is why people may find him “overrated” is him being on an underwhelming team and bad situation (which is not his fault at all) and maybe because he’s not really surrounded with the best players for him to hide more of his weaknesses and not have to carry such a heavy load.
@luvdagreat1greenbox
25 күн бұрын
From Trae's time playing with Dejounte, I think he learned to play the passing lanes a lot better. Made him look better defensively, his problem is that he gets lost on defense too often. There are too many possessions when he's just not guarding anyone. It forces the rest of the team into last minute closeouts and someone's always open!
@etiennevachon2813
26 күн бұрын
His hair.
@beefybiscuit9784
25 күн бұрын
Bring him to the Heat. His one man offense combined with spo’s defense would be awesome
@legendwalking5231
26 күн бұрын
I truly don’t understand how Trae be falling out of people top 5 pg in the league when he has shown with some right pieces he can atleast lead you to the conference finals
@dinewalton
21 күн бұрын
The problem with Trae is that he can't shoot 40% from three and he doesn't have a Draymond.
@Ahinahina
26 күн бұрын
I think Orlando would be the best fit for him
@donaldf9055
26 күн бұрын
True. I see the vision.
@Goxilla
26 күн бұрын
Orlando has a defense-first mentality. I don´t think coach Mosley would like a PG with no defense. He would help them on offense a lot though
@timbertron1
26 күн бұрын
Actually Atlanta is the best fit. Now they are finally building a strong defence around Trae we will see over the next couple of seasons if they can improve defensively.
@culo9999
26 күн бұрын
@@Goxilla Two young star forwards, a slew of centers, a nice spark plug guard off the bench and a pair of all-defense caliber guards. Only issue is how many of those pieces need to go to ATL to make the trade happen? Like, just to make the money work it would probably have to be something like KCP + Wendell Carter Jr. + Franz Wagner, which might be too much. Orlando might be best off keeping their team intact and trying to go hard on getting Tyus Jones in free agency.
@PhonyPhoniPhone
26 күн бұрын
@@GoxillaTrae Young really stepped up and bought in on defense. It showed in his steals and charges taken this past season check the stats.
@andredornelles8014
23 күн бұрын
Today’s NBA is too demanding on both sides for a Trae Young or a Russell Westbrook to be the main option of a winning team. Once you have players like that as your main option, you need to compromise too much elsewhere and other teams can easily explore that. There’s nothing wrong with Trae individually, it’s the impact he has on a system that prevents a team from being truly competitive that’s the issue
@malikreid8939
17 күн бұрын
Trae is going to KEEP your team offensively productive. So keeping good floor spacing w/ bogi trae and the other forwards as inside finishers or lob threats is what the hawks needed. I still say we need a "big guy" but I think an undersized skillful big man could get the chip
@Cruzer3x
26 күн бұрын
Compared to the other guards you mentioned, the hawks aren’t in the media a lot and are the definition of mediocre. If he was on the heat as an example he’d be in more those conversations
@Jalenlane93
17 күн бұрын
I dont think Trae has ever had an Allstar teammate. The Hawks failed to build around Trey.
@schuylersavage276
22 күн бұрын
So much could be said here…but just one thing I want to point out is what Trae did this past December when the whole world was hopping onto another terrible defenders offensive game, Tyrese Haliburtons. Trae went out himself for that MONTH and AVERAGED 30.4 ppg 12.2 apg 3.2 rpg 1.2 spg on 10.1-21.1 FGs and 4.4-10.4 from 3FGs. He AVERAGED 4 and a half made 3s per game on 42+ shooting for the month. AND 12+ dimes. AND 30+ points. Also got to the line 7 times and made 90%. In a span of 7 games he had 13+ assists in 6. 9 in the other lol. Sorry lemme just read his game by game box stats: 32/12 30/9 19/9 35/17 38/11 35/10 31/15 30/14 30/13 30/13 21/13( such a down game am I right !? Lol) 24/9 40/13 That’s every game he played that month…. 24/11 his first game of the next month! In a win Vs OKC hahah Oh and Bro wTF hahah. I didn’t realize he had 45 and 14 in the last game of the prior month hahahaahah wow get this, if we go backawards from December, it’s 45/14, then 13/10…but then 33/7 26/10 43/9 38/8 22/13 15/17 27/11 41/8 Bro what the heck did I just read lol. This man is so amazing. He’s historically good offensive point guard
@rongiefaustino8867
25 күн бұрын
OK, he’s a good passer. But the best passing pure point guards of the past are also good defenders, like Stockton, Kidd, and Paul. Granted, there are those like Nash and now Trae Young who are bollards on defense. The problem is those 2 didn’t have anyone to cover for their defensive deficiencies.
@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207
22 күн бұрын
Stockton wasn’t a good defender. He played Mark Price was nice, Rod Strickland weren’t none of those dudes the glove. And Dame, Kyrie, Steph, A.I , Brunson, Haliburnton, Maxey, Fox, Luka are all horrendous defenders way worse than Trae. And they don’t put up the points and assists Trae give you.
@urbaindelva7869
15 күн бұрын
@@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207Luka and Kyrie literally proved this past postseason that they can defend when they need to.
@urbaindelva7869
15 күн бұрын
That is a lie. Nash had teammates to cover for his defensive deficiencies: Shawn Marion, Raja Bell, Amar'e, Boris Diaw, Grant Hill, Jason Richardson, etc.
@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207
15 күн бұрын
@@urbaindelva7869 they just hate. Tell ‘em name another guard can lead the league in points and assists that he like, then tell him to bet money that that player a do it?? Crickets.. Tell ‘em bet whatever guards he like that’ll have more points than Trae. Then take that same bet in assists as well he won’t bet.. Trae gone average about 31 this year and 11 assists
@demarienhall
20 күн бұрын
This what I think the hawks starting 5 should be Pg trae Shooting guard bogi Small forward Jalen Power forward zaccharie Center okongwu And yes okongwu because he can do everything capela can and can do more like shoot the 3 and make free throws
@michaelmcphee2006
26 күн бұрын
There's something that is kind of hard to quantify (although usage sort of shows it), and it's how much offensive oxygen you chew up. Trae will put up great numbers, but other than setting people up for lobs, he's not going to let anyone else cook. And with him never being off ball, it becomes predictable in a series. You add in the fact he is the single worst defender in the league and a headache, and he's just not worth it.
@PhonyPhoniPhone
26 күн бұрын
This is a false narrative- not letting others cook. Murray and JJ cook
@earljohnson2613
16 күн бұрын
I from Atlanta,been a Hawks fan forever, 1 of Trae problems is for almost every great play he make in the game he also makes a terrible play the highlight reel doesn't show that and he takes alot of unnecessary risks in games alot that mostly lead to turnovers
@michaelcarrig627
26 күн бұрын
He has two problems: extremely streaky shooting and an extremely high TO%. His defensive issues can be supplemented by surrounding him with good defenders. But he has to make better decisions with the ball. He shot less than 15 of his 54 games last season were sub 36% from the field, and 25 of 5 turnovers or more. That just doesn't work for a star player. If he was in Maxey or Murray's position he would be lauded. But he just isn't a #1 guy. I
@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207
22 күн бұрын
Hmmm.. The qb who usually throws the ball the most will probably have his receivers drop alot of passes. Luka number two in turnovers.. Y’all don’t keep that energy Skip. Skip.. If Trae inconsistent and he lead the league on points scored and assists since being drafted what they say about your player. Can’t have it both ways. It’s the opposite he’s the most consistent player in the league. He gone lead the league in points and assists this year as well.
@michaelcarrig627
21 күн бұрын
@@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207 Luka also scores more, rebounds more, nearly matches him in assists, is better at playing the passing lanes (even though neither is a good defender), gets a block every other game rather than every once every five, has a better eFG%, and destroys him in on/off stats (both box and adjusted). Trae is a very good player, but he has flaws. Luka has similars flaws, but is even better. Does that logically follow?
@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207
21 күн бұрын
@@michaelcarrig627 bro u got that.. You like what you like. I see two players that play about the same ones taller and is accepted the others smaller and rejected
@michaelcarrig627
21 күн бұрын
@@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207 What you "see" and "like" ignores empirical differences that are represented by statistical differences. As for Luka, I did not bring him up, that is your hangup not mine. There is a statistic called VORP (Value Over Replacement), It compares a players average effect on a teams production, from points scored, to points created off of assists, off of hockey assists, turnovers created, and anything we can tell from on/off stats. Doncic was second in the league, below Jokic and above Giannis and Shai. Trae was 50th. Most advanced metrics say the same. Sometimes your eyes lie.
@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207
21 күн бұрын
@@michaelcarrig627 this year we judging off a injury year?? How about 2019 I got money on it he was way more efficient than Luka and Shai. Since we picking years let's go 20-21 season and 21-22 season and compare Shai and Trae for good measure throw Kyrie and Luka in their for good measure throw Brunson in ..
@monkeymoo87
26 күн бұрын
If he put on 10 more lbs of muscle imo he’d be unstoppable on offense and defensively he wouldn’t be a liability. However I agree he’s a great player
@freddiekellyjr2952
26 күн бұрын
Thank you…
@kam1182
25 күн бұрын
Literally zero movement without the ball…If James Harden can’t win a Chip with that style, how will Trae?
@IAmElixand
26 күн бұрын
I have said this for sometime, but no one watches the Hawks. If they did, they would see just how brilliant he his offensively and his improved defense this past season. Outside of Capela and Onyeka, the Hawks roster has not had really stand out defensive players. Dyson Daniels seems to be just that and I’m excited for him in Atlanta with Trae. ZR helps with that as well.
@yonizaslavsky4246
17 күн бұрын
Its because he never made a jump since 2021, everyone knows he's good but no one considers him great
@theupsidedownminddickens7242
23 күн бұрын
I think it is literally because he's "small" and not "athletic."
@whitepaccino1910
23 күн бұрын
It’s no problem with Trae He still be the tremendous amount of talent the magical point guard he used to be it’s just Atlanta didnt have enough good pieces to surround him to compete regularly since their finals appearance now that they have the best 2024 picks there is hope again for the A although Dejounte a star Trae better player he can be magic as Luka he unique his IQ and playmaking genius top chart I call him the Lobgod of the the NBA He is that dude 🥶
@radhi8063
26 күн бұрын
The only problem with Trae is that he is not in my team...
@donaldf9055
26 күн бұрын
Hes a streaky shooter, inconsistent scorer, takes baaaaad shots, tov the ball a ton(that comes with his playstyle), and is the worst defender in the league. Thats why teams dont like him.
@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207
22 күн бұрын
How is he an inconsistent scorer when he leads the league in points since being drafted.. And he leads the league in assists since being drafted as well. These are facts. So if I’m Trae and I’m inconsistent but I score the most Edgar the fuck that tell you about the player you like. That said player a have to be more inconsistent than me if I’m out doing him.
@kj22jr1
15 күн бұрын
@@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207 Wait, there's more facts.. He had documented issues with his previous two coaches who are now gone He had documented issues with John Collins who is now gone. He signed off on the Murray trade and was supposed to play more off ball like Steph Curry and make it work and now Murray is gone. Seems like there is as consistent factor here...besides the fact that the front office is bad as well. Takes more than scoring points to be an All-star. Got to be a winner, and although he has no control over who he plays with, he does have control of displaying the characteristics of a leader. Does he do that? Remember this a guy who stay home from the arena the night his team played because he was mad at the coach. (McMillian was coach). And people wonder why players and coaches around the league look at him the way they do.
@goatjamesizbrixmoneysauce4207
15 күн бұрын
@@kj22jr1 reaching. Let's break this down. When you rebuilding, you usually don't have a championship team or a championship coach because if you do you're competing 1 and two if you have an excellent coach he costs money so most teams cut ties with the coach in a buyout. That's why Budenholzer left,he didn't want to be here and the Hawks didn't want to pay him. So usually when a team in a full rebuild they usually get a young coach to develop players and usually it's a first time coach for the cheap.. He's usually a place holder.Like a vet qb when you have a rookie qb. Like Mariotta in the nfl. So Lloyd Pierece didnt count and McMillan won more playoff series with the Hawks that one year than all his other season combined always was a playoff first round loser. John Collins was gonna be gone anyway because they drafted Jalen Johnson who can actually DRIBBLE AND CREATE HIS OWN SHOT. Now let's get to Murray. Remember when they made the trade. The GM who was making all the moves RESIGNED Because he vetoed the trade,said Trae and Murray a be a bad fit, said Murray wasn't worth those picks,and said he was trying to trade for AD that's when AD stock was low,then he tried to trade Collins for KP and Dallas wanted to do it,but the FO like Collins but he had drafted JJ and wanted KP at the five. Bottom line you don't know Atl history or the struggle carry on.
@zk191
26 күн бұрын
Just cause you avg a few more stats a game doesn't mean you're a plus on the court.
@MidLifeThoughts461
23 күн бұрын
The problem with Trae Young is if he doesn't have the ball in his hands he is worthless. He doesn't move without the ball. He just stands there and does nothing if he doesn't have the ball in his hands
@urbaindelva7869
15 күн бұрын
You just said the same thing in 3 different ways.
@MidLifeThoughts461
15 күн бұрын
@@urbaindelva7869 lol
@HKim0072
26 күн бұрын
Average efficiency. Doesn't like to move off ball. Terrible defender. He's a less efficient Kyrie.
@TraJonR3D
26 күн бұрын
I've watched Trae Young ever since high school. He is a great shooter, and I'm glad the young man got PAID but he's not someone you can build around. People expect too much of him, especially being on the Hawks squad. He needs someone to pass to so he can get open shots. He can't do it all on his own.
@MorningSovi
26 күн бұрын
It’s because his competition is so good (Luka) that his double double isn’t important especially how they can’t reach the playoffs
@PhonyPhoniPhone
26 күн бұрын
23 season Luka WITH ALL nba Kyrie couldn’t make the playoffs…what kinda bs is this?
@MorningSovi
25 күн бұрын
@@PhonyPhoniPhone they tanked to get Derick lively you must not watch mavs ball bro
@PhonyPhoniPhone
25 күн бұрын
@@MorningSovi they were trying to win and make the playoffs until what the last 5 games of the season? That’s not even stealth tanking that’s stinking all year - BUT it all worked out for the Mavs in landing Lively!
@MorningSovi
24 күн бұрын
@@PhonyPhoniPhone last 5 games ? You mean after the trade deadline bro bro 😭, they tanked to keep there pick hence why they were fined 700k , lock in twin you messing up
@kraken8i437
26 күн бұрын
get this man on the spurs
@PhonyPhoniPhone
26 күн бұрын
Hawk for life
@spursdynasty7378
24 күн бұрын
Hell no !
@PhonyPhoniPhone
24 күн бұрын
@@spursdynasty7378 why lie like yall wouldn’t want him he’s better than Cp3
@Kingsfan
22 күн бұрын
It’s cuz he flopped soo disgustingly that everyone cooled off on him literally ruined the game for true fans worse than James hardens arm grabbing flopping
@truthnotfeelings
16 күн бұрын
Turnovers. 3pt%. Play off numbers
@Lord_Horker
26 күн бұрын
His issue is he’s on the hawks and they have never understood how to build around a star
@kj22jr1
15 күн бұрын
Hmmm, why might he be considered divisive? He had documented issues with his previous two coaches who are now gone He had documented issues with John Collins which went public, who is now gone. He signed off on the Murray trade with the front office and was supposed to play more off ball like Steph Curry and make it work and now Murray is gone. Seems like there is a common thread here...besides the fact that the front office is bad as well. Takes more than scoring points to be an All-star. Got to be a winner, and although he has no control over who he plays with, he does have control of displaying the characteristics of a leader and it's more than handing out assists which is his job anyway. Does he do that? Remember this a guy who reportedly stay home from the arena and did not support his team the night they played because he was mad at the coach. (McMillian was coach). And people wonder why players and coaches around the league look at him the way they do.
@merrylderrickson3147
25 күн бұрын
another video no one asked for; another video no one knew they actually needed
@Bwell218
26 күн бұрын
The rook will benefit greatly from playing alongside Trae.
@christianguliman8385
17 күн бұрын
trae is good but he is not a 1st option guy in championship team
@teslatx
24 күн бұрын
Trae young to the jazz call it in
@4ktkaram395
23 күн бұрын
Trae would make the jazz a top 3 seed
@nathrebs9107
16 күн бұрын
Atlanta Hawks made a huge mistake of trading Luka Doncic for Trae Young. Trau Young is not a worthy francjise player. He is the problem. He's a coach killer.
@thelaw2348
25 күн бұрын
We will happily take him in Detroit
@ruru1993
26 күн бұрын
Dyson is gonna save our defense
@ploxxybb
26 күн бұрын
he plays half court basketball *shrugs*
@ezramatthew4419
18 күн бұрын
Because he plays for Atlanta
@billmorrison9068
23 күн бұрын
No defense
@EEazyM0neySniper35
26 күн бұрын
I wanna see dude play with an all-star center. Tre gets too much hate for nothing. I get the defense thing but let him play with a good defensive front court and there'd be no issue.
@6manYT
26 күн бұрын
100% my problem with the defensive thing is most high usage guards aren't very good defenders. Trae is a victim of his size. Guys like Ja and Hali aren't any better but they're more athletic and bigger so people assume they are
@jonhoge153
26 күн бұрын
@@6manYT true, but its not 'assumed'. if everything else is equal then the taller guy is a better defender because of the nature of basketball.
@therealretroreacts
26 күн бұрын
Simple don’t have him shoot as much. Just give him 12-15 shots a game
@nate5398
22 күн бұрын
Trae Young is the Goat
@Drewscrilla
26 күн бұрын
Can’t be good at basketball if you can’t play defense
@PingPongPursuit
26 күн бұрын
Trae Young is really underrated
@Goxilla
26 күн бұрын
When you put all attributes in offense and you have no more left for defense... That´s Trae Young
@PhonyPhoniPhone
26 күн бұрын
That’s an untrue narrative. His steal and charges taken were way up last season
@antihero8603
26 күн бұрын
Nice.
@schuylersavage276
22 күн бұрын
Trae Ypung is so much better than hali if you ask me. Hali is one of the most currently overrated players in the NBA. He’s so pathetic on D, but the worst part is how soft his ego is. I was embarrased for him in the playoffs, the way he was silent while doing nothing but then when he started to break out of his slump, instead of acting like he had been there before he started talking all of that weird junk to Donte and the Knicks like “you can’t guard me!” It was literally the most obvious example of someone who’s been so in their head and doubting themsleves, so when they finally play well they just get SO happy because they were worried they couldn’t hack it, the like get overwhelmed with joy and start just going crazy and saying things they obviously don’t beleive. It was SO cringe. Maybe a simpler way to say it was that it appeared as if he was trying to convince himself he was as good as he was saying he is. Idk it just totally turned me off from him. And as far as Trae goes, I feel like people just got bored with how good he is, until he is able to make the finals he will just be another young victim of his own success too early on like JT and JB were. I swear if Trae had the exact season he had last year, but he had never averaged over 20 and 9 before, everyone woulda been like “wow!! What he is doing is so crazy!!!” But since he’s been like 27 and 9 since the second half of his first year, everyone just overlooks it. But it’s so idiotic. If anything we should be even more amazed that this dude is like the only modern player ever to produce these numbers as career averages. And with him, it’s literally been every year of his career( I guess minus his rookie year, but that year he was amazing too) as opposed to some guys with amazing career averages but only because some huge later seasons bumped up the numbers. Trae really been going for 25+ and 10 since he first started to figure shit out.
@htown11465
26 күн бұрын
I don’t understand how you can make videos on KZitem about the nba and not understand Trae’s flaws
@snarkmark2806
26 күн бұрын
He’s high volume, yet inefficient. He needs the ball in his hands 100% of the time. Awful off ball player.
@73Cfletch
26 күн бұрын
Easy... Its all about Tre.
@sp123
26 күн бұрын
Undersized chuckers dont win rings. In the past when people just looked at numbers Trae would be seen as valuable. However, in the analytics era guys like Trae who are high volume, low efficiency, and low defense are seen as fools gold.
@letsgoooo9200
26 күн бұрын
Yeahhh
@chryzz7395
26 күн бұрын
Do we have the +/- of those star pointguards you mentioned in contrast to Trae?
@6manYT
26 күн бұрын
Last season wasn't good for Trae from that perspective but it was a very dysfunctional season for ATL, prior to that there were 3 seasons of the Hawks being well above average with him on the floor. Similar realm to those other guys I mentioned
@KMDN-bi9dj
26 күн бұрын
The Hawks had a +2.4 net rating with Trae on the floor last year by himself, a -.2.3 Net rating with him and DJ, and a -.33 Net rating with just DJ on the floor last year so do with that what you will. We brought Dejounte in to be the secondary creator and POA defender to slot in alongside Trae and he really didn't pan out...pretty much anywhere except for scoring. On top of that the Hawks were riddled with injuries and were relying on Saddiq Bey to play a lot of minutes. We really didn't have any good defenders anywhere except for Jalen Johnson, Capela, Okongwu, and Vit Krejci toward the end of the year.
@6manYT
26 күн бұрын
@@KMDN-bi9dj I think it's also worth mentioning that every little injury and absence for any rotation level players really matters because of how competitive the league is. Steph Currys on off numbers and plus minus didn't look that great this year because of troubles with Draymond and other starters, the margin for error is so fine in the current NBA with the talent.
@KMDN-bi9dj
26 күн бұрын
@@6manYT Agreed. Honestly it's insane to me that Trae is "overrated" when he's been a walking top 5 offense basically on his own since his sophomore season in the NBA. Trae is the reason John Collins got paid 25M per year and is the reason Hunter is getting almost 20. Everybody he's played with so far has had upticks in their shooting percentages because he's a generationally gifted playmaker.
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