Recently purchased two P lines with titanium seat posts from CLEVER. Great shop, shipped to Los Angeles quickly.
@Ekdog
21 күн бұрын
My M6L, built according to the specs given in your video of a decade ago, is still going strong after multi-modal commuting on it daily, touring and riding around town. It's a great match for Spanish trains; I've used it on the cercanías, media distancia and AVEs. Love it!
@sean7456
21 күн бұрын
I'm always surprised that Brompton doesn't offer a belt drive option. Between the cleanliness and the option to get rid of the rear derailleur and use a gearbox or a hub. Seems like it'd be a lot better for a folding commuter bike like this.
@stephenringlee9739
20 күн бұрын
Agreed but belt drive means an internal gear hub which in turn means a wider rear triangle, so it's not a trivial change. But aftermarket folks have done so.
@kenshinjenna
20 күн бұрын
BikeFriday does, and their's will back into a standard airline suitcase...I think it folds smaller than Brompton, actually. Not sure..
@kouotsu
19 күн бұрын
I feel like they get so dirty from road grime being so low to the ground that the supposed maintenance savings from a belt are not worth having 2-4x less gear range.
@52blackshadow
19 күн бұрын
Agree. I see that people have added belt drive to their Brompton, but it would be a lot more cost effective getting such a bike from the factory.
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
19 күн бұрын
Internal gears are more heavy to use, from internal friction in the system, as a belt drive! And the Brompton chain is in the middle of the bike when folded, so it is no problem! I would by far prefer the 7 speed chain gear system which is to be bought from Eastern Firms, with a new wheel and one changer only. Finn. Denmark 🤔
@jonathanleach3914
21 күн бұрын
Excellent. I have a 12 speed Brompton plus an older M6R. Excellent bikes and I use them daily. The wider gears on the 12 speed are better but although heavier, the rack on the older bike is better to carry things. It’s slightly longer and the bungees hold things more firmly. Thanks for your films.
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
16 күн бұрын
You are able to buy Racks in many shapes. also as Standard and also from titanium, for a Brompton, so it is just to look at the Internet for those. I buy directly from China of course. The largest supplier of better parts and spares for Bromptons. Finn. Denmark
@frankhugh2052
21 күн бұрын
Rode on in London for over a decade. Excellent if the roads are smooth and not potholed
@digitaldion
19 күн бұрын
Stunning! I still have a 24 year old M3L which is my daily driver. In our family we have 2 x 2011 M6’s, a black M6L and a raw lacquer M6R. They are amazing!
@serhiirudenko6183
21 күн бұрын
Hah, Bromptons recently gaining some popularity online. Not so long ago I found out about them, now want to get one. Tho there's no dealers in Ukraine, will have to found out something. Also rumors say in a month will be released a new G line. There will be some significant changes like aluminum stem, disc brakes and most important- slightly bigger 20" wheels.
@outtatrex
20 күн бұрын
Finally 20 inch wheels !!! / Slava Ukraini!
@slowwerthensnot
21 күн бұрын
Needs the new Paul brakes in purple of course! 😅
@2Bikes4Adventure
21 күн бұрын
Not sure about touring with those Schwalbe One however.
@rk-fc1he
15 күн бұрын
Even the lovely riding Conti Urban’s have proven to have delicate side walls so in my book neither make a reliable touring tyre.
@polipop1113
21 күн бұрын
There is a rumor that Brompton G Line with 20” wheels is coming later this year.
@ARJWright
21 күн бұрын
It’s coming. Reddit thread happening today of someone seeing it in fact
@outtatrex
21 күн бұрын
I would buy a 20' inch Brompton. I think there are lots of people who love Bromptons, exept those 16 inch mini wheels. I have seen Bromptons with the 20 inch conversion kit, and that just looks amazing.
@ashchbkv6965
21 күн бұрын
@@outtatrex there are clones with 20" wheels. it's slightly larger frame of course, so it's slightly bigger when folded
@Paco15151
21 күн бұрын
@@outtatrex At this point if you're going with 20 inch wheels why not simply go to a Tern or if you're feeling fancy an Helix. It'll be cheaper and you won't have to deal with all the annoying custom stuff ...
@freemandrew
21 күн бұрын
20 inch wheels on a Brompton? That's not cricket.
@Josukegaming
20 күн бұрын
I know some folks from Clever Cycles, so happy that you're working with them!
@jered2177
21 күн бұрын
Ride my zizzo forte daily, there are no brompton dealers around here.i'd love to try one though. Now Mobot Royale has a trifold with 20" wheels❤
@honuadalaranwow5106
16 күн бұрын
brompton is coming out with a 20" trifold with discs soon ;) Kinda surprised this video came out this close to the launch of the new line tbh
@davidharris3391
15 күн бұрын
Great bike, but lazy gearing matching by Brompton with the 12-speed. There are two regressive overlap zones that both reduce the effective useful gear from 12 to around 8 and also make shifting way more complicated. The 12-spd offers very little additional range or increments over the 6-spd, and you have to pay a complexity tax. Overall, it's a bit of a downgrade. Brompton could have done way better with proper engineering. I suspect they were limited by the 3-spd hubs and the number of teeth on the rear cassette. Overall, it's not a good design. *BUT* Great bike otherwise. Really nice decision and upgrades besides the 12-spd.
@ty-le5lv
17 күн бұрын
Great to see these in the US more. Been a fan for years. Had a dahon but was an early version and flimsy. Got into tern and love the quality. But i like Brompton size wise.
@josh33172
19 күн бұрын
Looking at a brompton purchase. Was going to go this weekend to Brussels to give a C Line Explore a demo. Rode a 2sp in Bruges and it was impressively smooth over cobbles. I've already explored the aftermarket as well....pretty neat mod market. I believe the first upgrade I will do is add a rack and inline skate wheels as I heard they work significantly better than the stock Brompton wheels.
@tymncycle
15 күн бұрын
As spiffy as the "new" under bar shifters are, the old "bunny ears" shifters have been more reliable, in my experience as a Brompton dealer.
@rk-fc1he
15 күн бұрын
Definitely agree and with less to go wrong plus they’re more accessible when using bar ends.
@Liketheoutdoors
20 күн бұрын
Awesome. Lot's of blink, cool bike store, and very informative vid. Would like to hear more about ride quality differences between the front-cargo bikes, Brompton's and a more traditional do-it-all daily ride. I realize the strengths of the Brompton's is their compact size, but not sure how they ride in contrast to others. Thx Russ!
@HolgerNestmann
18 күн бұрын
Thanks for this walkthrough. Always love brompton content. They are the perfect train bikes for sure. Angelie danced around the question of upgrading the 6 speed to 12 speed quite cracefully. „Even for a 6 speed P-Line it‘ll be 1100“. So to be more clear. As far as I am aware brompton doesn‘t allow an upgrade of a steel 6 speed bike. They won‘t give you the rear triangle needed for this. You have to buy a new bike. Brompton lost a bit of their spirit
@electrocit673
21 күн бұрын
For Laura you can do the trick of mixing / using 9-11 speed cassette cogs and dished cogs to add more gears int he back in the back. You could probably make it a 9 speed maybe even a 12 that way. Of course you might need to swap the chain as well to a 10 or 11 speed chain. It's too late now but did you consider cold setting the rear triangle to fit a wider hub?
@brunopaivamiranda5702
21 күн бұрын
I've seen some ppl online using a lite pro adapter to install a double crankset, and it seem to work well. Maybe it is a cost effective way to Increase the range of the brompton.
@PathLessPedaledTV
21 күн бұрын
Did that ages ago :) kzitem.info/news/bejne/pJ9jyIGvnnyHiYosi=0dQLd-l2fOf6P9sN
@goergeerwoll
19 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed the company you bought to this video. She was great company and very informative.
@tracerxrider
21 күн бұрын
Love Clever. Great shop.
@joshuabrown5057
21 күн бұрын
Very cool, thought you would get the titanium frame
@citizenwolf8720
11 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video. Good information and nicely shows the differences from the previous models.
@thebrommuters6220
12 күн бұрын
Its definitely a good choice to skip the dynamo option, even if you wanna use a Brompton for touring. I definitely will get rid of ours when our wheels will need to be replaced. We thought it would be useful for longer cycling by night, but over the last decade, we never had long distances left to go after it got dark. And while cycling over the Korean or Taiwanese "Alps" we had to use our "Real" flood spotlights anyway, cause sight was to limited AND Sarahs rear light stopped working as well. So for us, there is no reason to deal with the extra weight and rolling resistance, when we carry spare lights anyway 😁 Regards Ben&Sarah
@rundt7605
20 күн бұрын
Look forward to seeing lauras upgraded bike,also the cost ,been lusting agter the p line but a bit out of my price bracket 😢
@ericpmoss
20 күн бұрын
I'm most fascinated by the new rear suspension block at 10:23.
@alejandroaranda5254
16 күн бұрын
It's a Matumura Kohki, you can buy copycat Chinese versions, as the original is pretty expensive. I have one on my 2009 brompton (chinese one), and it's really good
@SingaporeUntold
16 күн бұрын
Don’t use those. They tend to break
@alejandroaranda5254
15 күн бұрын
@@SingaporeUntold Mine is fine with two years of normal use.
@kgilliagorilla2761
21 күн бұрын
I bought a B75. New bike with old parts. Three speed. Fun bikes.
@gloriousstereo
20 күн бұрын
Good vid. Russ, heads up, your affiliate multitool link needs an update.
@jiajunsun3845
19 күн бұрын
Brompton should partner up with Pinion gearbox
@52blackshadow
19 күн бұрын
I wish a lot of manufacturers would do that.
@Donkaestner2634
17 күн бұрын
They really recommend Schwalbe Ones ? This is the worst option for travel , or you love to fix punctures 😂
@SingaporeUntold
16 күн бұрын
Agree. Great performance but no protection
@kouotsu
19 күн бұрын
I was happy with the Schwalbe Ones for the most part, but the tanwall seems impossible to clean... I rode on them for a few hundred miles total maybe, and could not get them looking clean anymore. Hoping the tanwall Continentals are better. Compared to my WTB 650b tanwalls that still look new after 1k+ miles, it is confusing.
@rk-fc1he
15 күн бұрын
Tan walls are just fashion, the tan wall is actually weaker than a black wall tyre, tyres are black for a reason.
@kouotsu
15 күн бұрын
@@rk-fc1he I know, that's why I'm so annoyed they can't get clean lol
@stevecox4534
21 күн бұрын
Esoteric...in the best way.
@puro52
18 күн бұрын
sure getting tingly in the wallet for a brompton
@subliminalfreedom
21 күн бұрын
Neat!
@quentinl.9072
21 күн бұрын
I love your channel so much. BUT. There is a but. You need to test a Bastile or a Convercycle against that Brompton. I Know Brompton is the leader. But they need to experience the concurrence here. I'm very interested in the Convercycle myself, I'm a trailer user and this could replace everything. Anyway cheers 👏
@LUCKY_LARRY
21 күн бұрын
I wanna hear about the Brompton first.
@kennethg9277
21 күн бұрын
@@LUCKY_LARRYi wanna hear about the bromptons last; mediocre design and quality that have made gazillions purely out of clever marketing
@Paco15151
21 күн бұрын
TBH the Bastille in not at all in the same category. It's way too big to easily do a lot of the multi modal stuff you can do with a brompton, for example in France it would need to be in a bag with the wheels off to be in most intercity trains.
@KarlOnSea
21 күн бұрын
Nice - I love a bit of Brompton customisation (see: kzitem.info/news/bejne/sZ9p0nigr6ZyfnY). One question: On your new bike, what's the deal with the chain retainer for the chainset (the little doohickey on the seat post tube)? If someone changes out their chainring, is this repositionable?
@ashchbkv6965
21 күн бұрын
if only it was affordable for many people living paycheck to paycheck instead of having to pay for something that has now become a luxury/collector's item that a company that's determined to do anything to keep it that way. the trifold is such an essential tool for the progress of active transportation, this could get so many people into bike commuting because of how easily it folds/unfolds, being able/allowed to carry it onto trains and buses without taking too much space, being able to take it to workplaces that don't have bike parking, what we get instead is greedy capitalists holding onto an expired patent through legal loopholes to protect their monopoly. the people who need it the most can't afford it, even if they could somehow afford it, they would have to deal with the much higher likelihood of it being stolen because it's a luxury item, it's just impossible, it's entirely inaccessible for poor people.
@Nihilimus
21 күн бұрын
Oh, I think that's just supposed to be part of its authentic Britishness. :)
@rob-c.
20 күн бұрын
Brompton are a private company - It’s not up to them to kill their margin for some sort of ‘greater good’. Perhaps governments should improve public transport so that people can take any bike on-board? There are plenty of cheap knock-offs if you want to avoid the quality the current prices buy you.
@kennethg9277
20 күн бұрын
@@rob-c. lol, "quality". Bromptons are fragile pieces of luxury wear. Not a serious bike for a serious person, that's for sure.
@ashchbkv6965
20 күн бұрын
@@rob-c. why are you ignoring the point that brompton are using their expired patent to stop anyone from selling trifolds wherever they operate? people can't get a trifold that's not from brompton, i own three clones and i only got them when i traveled to singapore. saying that only brompton produces quality trifolds is just plain stupid, you think only they know and do great machining, brazing, welding, and qc? the trifolds that i got are just as good if not better than bromptons and it's less than 1/3 of brompton's price
@pootlingalong8928
17 күн бұрын
Rubbish. I bought my M3L in early 2015. Since I bought it I have ridden it most days. It does the commute, it does the shopping, it does touring including Lands End to John O’Groats carrying me, my dog and all our camping gear, it has toured The Way of The Roses, a tour of the Cotswolds and a tour of the Lake District. It has never seen the inside of a service shop and apart from needing new tyres every 18 months, a couple of sets of brake blocks and one set of cables since new it has cost me ZERO money. I wash it occasionally but it works for a living and I don’t fuss over it too much. Don’t spout rubbish about Brompton bikes, they are incredibly tough.
@leslieyoung5234
21 күн бұрын
You get a new bike and Laura gets a few new parts. Feel bad, seems like Laura got the shaft?
@felixhaimson8921
21 күн бұрын
I'm the mechanic doing the work on Laura's bike. Believe me, it's more than "a few new parts". I'm basically replacing almost everything but the frame.
@whispering_pines
21 күн бұрын
Replacing that whole rear wheel and adding the wider range 6 speed / new cogs seems like a thing to consider if / when my 3 speed hub finally goes. Good to know that’s an option.
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