Excellent video but I would like to point out a few corrections. The first sword held in this video is not alike to anything that was used in the Arab world in the middle ages (save maybe for the hilt) particularly because of the dramatically swelled blade. That is actually a characteristic of a western falchion which through medieval artistic depictions of the Islamic world became associated with "scimitars" which made it's way into Hollywood and we have felt with the problem ever since. The best example I can use is the depictions of swords in Aladdin or that guy in Indiana Jones. "Scimitars" didn't actually look like this. It's a modern fiction. "Scimitar" as a term as you have pointed out means nothing as it is just the western term for "eastern curved sword." The feature of that swell in the back is actually not a trait of shamshirs, talwars, pulwars. The argument could be made that it is close to a Kilij. However as you have shown in one of your pictures, that swell is not nearly as dramatic as it is commonly depicted. If we look at medieval artistic depictions (rather than archaeological) like the ones you've shown they are clearly depictions of falchions that are being placed in the hands of Islamic warriors because the artists were told "curved cutting sword" but had never actually seen them. As such we got a scimitar falchion hybrid that has been stuck in pop culture ever since More information here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/xYBs3YCsq6KZhqw
@GoldenMiddleAge
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insight
@Temujin1206
Жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning that the kilij shown in that image was a pala-a specific type of kilij with a shorter, broader blade and more exaggerated curve which only really began to appear from the late 18th century onwards. Earlier Ottoman kilij and the Turko-Mongol sabres used by Turkic peoples prior to the Ottoman period had longer, slimmer blades with a far more moderate curve and while the swelling at the tip was present it was far less apparent than on the later Pala, which really exaggerated a lot of the features of the earlier swords (including that increase of mass at the tip of the blade) and yeah was nothing like the style shown here, which is based on European falchions and not anything from the Islamic world.
@mohammad.alkurdi.
2 жыл бұрын
This channel deserves much more fame wallahi
@waliullahmalik4077
2 жыл бұрын
The day guns were invented bravery was lost the sword is a real weapon of a warrior.
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@KristinkaAranova
2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, the gun was invented in the medieval period
@modahak7089
2 жыл бұрын
@@KristinkaAranova I see , but at first it was a short range primitive gun , inspired from cannons … not much better than the crossbow but lighter
@sugoi9680
2 жыл бұрын
What about the bow and arrow? War is war, I'm sure if you stepped into a modern battlefield you would have to summon up your courage. Maybe even more so than in the past.
@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, okay buddy lmao.
@gabrielnguyen5580
2 жыл бұрын
This is a cool topic that i don't see covered very often. Cool vid :)
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@The_Polymath
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a just discovered a hidden gem. Love the channel 😁
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@NUSensei
Жыл бұрын
Great video. You are an excellent presenter.
@AsalaDances
Жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel in my search to learn a bit more about my dance prop, the saif-great content, thanks so much!!
@MGHDgaming
2 жыл бұрын
fantastic video bro
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@brucenovotny5924
2 жыл бұрын
Another great video...I've been planning on purchasing a Shamshir... Now, I know I need one 😉👍🏻🙂🙇🏻♂️🙏🏻
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yes you should!
@gokmenpasha
2 жыл бұрын
this is fantasy sword from Aladdin Disney movie..
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
This sword specifically takes its inspiration from the Sinbad Scimitar, a medieval story which emerged in the Abbasid era. I mentioned this at the start of the video..
@qassamrabi4719
4 ай бұрын
It was used before the movie you know
@Sanguivore
Ай бұрын
@@qassamrabi4719 What they mean is that the style presented in the video is not a real, historic weapon. It is a mishmash of the Western falchion and the shamshir (a real “scimitar”) that came about from European artists misrepresenting the Medieval Arabs as wielding falchions. A real shamshir/scimitar has a thin blade with no swell on the back, much closer to the Turkish kilij. The weapon presented here, as far as I’m aware, has no real-world context.
@LKK_4
19 күн бұрын
عندي ملاحظة في موضوع هل السيف المقوس تركي أم فارسي. عندما أنظر إلى سيوف النبي محمد صلى الله عليه وآله اجد سيف منحني اسمه السيف "المخدم" و قد روى ابن سعد عن مروان بن أبي سعيد المعلى قال: كان عند رسول الله - صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم - سيف يدعى المخِدم، وسيف يدعى رسوباً حصل عليهما من الفلس(صنم لطيء). اي من قبيلة طيء العربية وهو سيف منحني يبلغ طوله ٩٧ سم وهذا قبل ان يصل الترك (قبل السلاجقة) الى الشرق الاوسط بكثير بينما الفرس لم يستخدموا السيوف المنحني في الفترة الساسانية التي هي اخر فترة قبل معركة القادسية التي انتصر فيها العرب المسلمون(الخلافة الراشدة) على الفرس وهنالك سيف فارسي يعود الفترة الساسانية ويظهر مستقيماً مع نصل رقيق وغمد ومقبض من الذهب I have an observation on the subject of whether the curved sword is Turkish or Persian. When I look at the swords of the Prophet Muhammad, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him and his family, I find a curved sword called the “al-makhdam” sword. Ibn Saad narrated on the authority of Marwan bin Abi Saeed Al-Mu’alla, who said: The Messenger of God - may God’s prayers and peace be upon him and his family and grant him peace - had a sword called the “al-makhdam” and that sword was from the Arab Tai tribe, and it is a curved sword with a length of 97 cm. This was long before the Turks (before the Seljuks) arrived in the Middle East, while the Persians did not use curved swords in the Sasanian period, which was the last period before the Battle of Al-Qadisiyah in which the Muslim Arabs (the Rashidun Caliphate) were victorious. there is a Persian sword dating back to the Sassanid period and appears straight with a thin blade and golden sheath and handle.
@islamshugaa6961
2 жыл бұрын
I love the action! Amazing content 👏🏻
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@scottphillips3008
2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@shughalonly4724
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the gratw video ...i would just like to give the refrence of famous sword of Hazrat Ali RA ... A curved sword ... Arabian used curved swords without the Turkish influence ...
@IMP-vi6je
2 жыл бұрын
I never seen this kind of sword before Really interesting
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@EternalVirgin
10 ай бұрын
Can you post a video about how Medieval Middle Eastern swordfighting techniques are like? I'm kind of more interested in that. Thank you very much.
@orneryoccultist9680
2 жыл бұрын
Great sword! I ordered a copy of Dhu al-Faqar from Turkey last year and love it!
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! I will be doing a video about dhu al-faqar soon!
@tiger-teamtactical4160
Жыл бұрын
You are very knowledgeable mashallah😊
@newbossbro3180
Жыл бұрын
Can't believe I discovered this channel wayyyyyy late.
@GoldenMiddleAge
Жыл бұрын
Better late than never :)
@shinobihiriyu-originalninj4634
2 жыл бұрын
like your video, very interresting but i see the problem with modern sword and saber everwhere, the hilt / handle is 9/10 times way to long. A normal hilt of any type of sword would be around the 9-11cm mark, depending of how big your hands are. I found out that for me 9 - 10 cm is just perfect. The gripping of the sword or saber should be towards the end of the hilt or pommel if it has one. This will make your cuts so much better, its a game changer ! anyway keep up the good work.
@markgoodrich4666
Жыл бұрын
You looked great , the sword is very deadly for sure
@chadbrown748
2 ай бұрын
Same style of blade as the toy swords for halloween pirate costumes.
@hendrifai4223
Жыл бұрын
Tierd of turks trying to push this idea that they brought curved swords to the arab world. Arab tribes used curved swords since. Ancient times
@zzhex6780
10 ай бұрын
Open a book it was the Turkic peoples that brought these types of swords to the region. The Persians got it from the Turks then they started introducing it in minor scales but it’s only during the 1200s and onwards that we really see the curved sword become prominent in the region and that is because of the influx of Turkic peoples that took place during that time.
@alexiosmonary3388
10 ай бұрын
@@zzhex6780turks be damned, im not gonna credit part of my culture to a bunch of femboys preaching superiority above the arabs race while being an amalgamation of 10 different ethnicities cuz thier mothers sleep around
@arabe007
10 ай бұрын
Arabe curved sword used loooong Time before turkich Comes to anadol ...from the jahiliya ..in out culture WE name Sword damascus ..Indian Sword ,.but Never turkish Sword ..
@aeneasjbrown111
9 ай бұрын
It's because they were all the same people with the same grandma,
@Gutrast77gh
7 ай бұрын
@zzhex6780 Yes Arabs wrote about curved swords in times turks were primitive people with little knowledge, and I've read those books, it's definitely Arab tradition
@alyssaortega3185
2 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie, watching that watermelon get decimated was pretty cool 😀 It's always neat to see tools and weapons in action as they were meant to be used.
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes exactly it's what they were made for
@zinknot
Жыл бұрын
They weren't intended to be used against watermelons I don't think. 😂
@ScarletRose_xx
8 ай бұрын
Insightful and Informative video! I was curious as to what arab slaves back then use to wore? If you have any idea about it lemme know.
@gilgamesh-antara
2 жыл бұрын
Sindibad the sailor of bagdad❤️🌹
@johnwhite5217
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed arab pre-Islamic mostly used the roman gladiuos short swords Because it was affordable
@ottomanswords
2 жыл бұрын
Assalamu Alaikum May Allah bless your sword-sharp wrath. Enjoy it. Thanks for the great information. Our sword looks great there. It was fun to watch.
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
W'alaykumu Alsalam. Thank you it was great to use!
@DaMonStith
2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Excellent content. We should do a collaboration.
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes for sure
@Briareos-yf9kl
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful weapon(scimitar). Btw prince of persia brought me here.
@joeerickson516
Жыл бұрын
"By the way, would the mid to late 15th century to early 16th century Muslim,🕌☪ Persian,🇮🇷☫ scimitar and damascus steel buckler shield,🛡 called,🤙 the Shamshir Sabre and Separ buckler shield,🛡 clash blades,🔪 with the unbreakable adamantium claws of Wolverine of the Uncanny X-men in a sword,🗡⚔ fight?"🤺
@joeerickson516
Жыл бұрын
"By the way, would the mid to late 15th century to early 16th century Muslim,🕌 Persian,🇮🇷☫ scimitar and damascus steel buckler shield, 🛡 called,🤙 the Shamshir Sabre and Separ damascus buckler shield, 🛡 clash blades,🔪 with the late 15th century to early 16th century renaissance Spanish,🇪🇸 toledo steel rapier, damascus steel buckler shield,🛡 and Maine gauche trident,🔱 parry dagger,🗡⚔ or the 1600 Northern Italian,🇮🇹 damascus steel sword,🗡⚔ catcher/ blade,🔪 breaker parry dagger, 🗡⚔ in a sword,🗡⚔ fight?"🤺
@russelltimmerman3771
7 ай бұрын
I think we would call that a Falchion not a Saber. both based on the era and the general blade shape. Medieval Falchions (many of which where curved) look allot more like a scimitar than a saber does.
@sakatagintoki2996
Жыл бұрын
justa remark: arab world is included in islamic world so i don't think its necessary to say " arab and islamic world " and in the middle ages it was the " islamic civilization ( arabs, persians, indians, turks, berbers...) " not only arab
@ejdermengov
4 ай бұрын
well brother thank you for mentioning Turkic influence but persians were also under the turkic influence. Persian swords were also straigh/ 2 sharp sided ones before turkic raids. There is no sabers in Persia at pre turkic era. Shamshir was actaully a straight sword. The saber shamshir is believed to be a Turcoman/ Seljuk style nomadic saber
@patwilson2546
6 ай бұрын
Is the initial sword a historical sword? I saw a video that stated that shape is a European invention and not a historical blade shape. The historical shapes like shamshirs, tulwars, etc. do not have that exaggerated blade width with the extra point near the top. I guess the killij comes sort of close but still nowhere near as exaggerated as the Sinbad blade.
@Holy_Grapefruit
Жыл бұрын
Hey I'm trying to make myself a D&D character taking Arabic/Middle Eastern inspiration for both name, speech pattern and well.. the character itself. I'm having a very hard time finding Pole weapons, like the European Bardiche/Halberd, and/or greataxes/poleaxes. Do you happen to know their Middle Eastern counterparts? And their proper name ofcourse.
@DesGardius-me7gf
Жыл бұрын
“I mean, if I went around sayin’ I was an emperor just because some moisten bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!”
@khalilalmesned153
Жыл бұрын
Do you think the saber you shown has a tip that widens quickly so it doesn't get suck when u stab
@EngPheniks
11 ай бұрын
I want to see an Arabian swordfighter go one on one with a Japanese Samurai. Arab Scimitars and Japanese Katanas are the best quality swords in the world, and very very sharp.
@Monyato
10 ай бұрын
What do you mean very sharp? How sharp a blade is depends on the individual blade and how well you sharpen it, if you want you can sharpen a kitchen knife sharper than any sword, it just won’t hold it’s edge very long. Sharpness has nothing to do with the type of sword. And there is no “best” sword, this is coming from an arab, we arabs used straight, curved, very curved and single bladed swords all together, just like europeans have stuff like a messer. It depends on what you like better. And a sword fight between a samurai and an arab would likely not be fun to watch, because arabic sword fighting focuses on very quick and aggressive attacks, whereas japanese sword fighting focuses on as little strikes as possible and as effective as possible, either the samurai would be completely overwhelmed by the quick attacks and get killed or the arab would jump in too excited and get killed via an opening.
@derrickjones497
Жыл бұрын
The designs u c are from the Baluchi & the tubu and Berbers
@raphlvlogs271
2 жыл бұрын
early Medieval Arab swords were Roman influenced designs.
@modahak7089
2 жыл бұрын
السيف أصدق انباءاً من الكتب في حده الحد بين الجد و العب بيض الصفائح لا سود الصحائف في متونهن جلاء الشك و الريب جبريل نادى معلنا و النقع ليس بمنجلي و المسلمون قد احدقوا حول النبي المرسلِ لا سيف الا ذو الفقار و لا فتى الا علي
@moinmahmud6265
2 жыл бұрын
Is there a 2 handed version of a scimitar
@AlexanderGent
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask a similar question. I've looked into it and would love to know about it if there was one. The Muslims did use a lot of two handed straight swords but haven't yet found a curved two handed sword. Nearest I've found through my research was the Swiss sabre that seems to have been influenced by the Ottomans.
@moinmahmud6265
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderGent ah the Swiss,they were blessed with ingenuity by Allah, they made so many marvelous inventions along with cuisine and a famous method of banking.
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
I have not come across a 2 handed scimitar
@frogmad13
2 жыл бұрын
All swords are cool!
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@killerkraut9179
Жыл бұрын
@@GoldenMiddleAge watermelon is one of the worst thing to test a sword it dont test the sword it dont test the User!
@jjtimmins1203
Жыл бұрын
Perfect for home defense
@RedLights9000-f3l
2 жыл бұрын
Did They really wrote versus in the swords? how you can lose a fight when you have something like that It's even better than power of friendship
@user-lg5sf8pc8y
2 жыл бұрын
ولكن استعمال السيوف المقوسه كانت تستعمل قبل تلك الفترة و بالاخص في اليمن و قد استعملها بالاخص سيدنا خالد بن الوليد في غزوه مؤتة و التي لم يصمد من سيوفه الا حديدة يمانية و بالنسبة لموضوع ان معظم الجيش العباسي كان فرس هلا اعطيتنا مصدر هذه المعلومه من فضلك
@modahak7089
2 жыл бұрын
Laa ghaliba illa allah 🌪
@zzhex6780
10 ай бұрын
1:46 you say that the mamluks and Turks used straight swords this is not the case the average Turkic warriors(kipchak) and (oghuz) used sabres only their daggers were straight.
@Blackaddder
2 жыл бұрын
Considering your focus on Medieval Middle Eastern history, which army would you say that inhabitants of modern-day Syria would have joined? Would they have been solely fighting for the Islamic Caliphates or would a partial amount of their population also fight for other non-Islamic factions?
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
Modern day Syria was part of a wider region known as Bilad Al Sham. This encompassed Syria, Palestine, Jordan and Lebanon. In the middle ages many empires ruled that area. They would have fought for the Ummayad and Abbasid dynasties. Then also the Mamluks, Seljuks. There was also many insurrections like the Hamadanid empire in Aleppo.
@Blackaddder
2 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenMiddleAge Thank you very much for your informative reply. I will want to subscribe to this channel since there are not enough KZitemrs focusing on Medieval Middle Eastern History.
@anders7159
Жыл бұрын
@@GoldenMiddleAge do you personally think that these middle easternern mamluks would fare better or worse versus european knights on man vs man duel?? Provided they were somehow evenly armored? Ive heard that mamluks trained much frequently than knights something up to a 1000 strikes per day
@deanal-jackson4593
8 ай бұрын
@@anders7159considering mamluks are bought as slaves when they're infants and would be trained with blades since their early childhood my money on them
@alcibiadesludena5173
Жыл бұрын
Esa no es una cimitarra esa se llama swabbie
@modahak7089
2 жыл бұрын
There’s also the turkish yatagan , mostly used by janissaries bone looking large pommel and no guard
@Dirty_dms
2 жыл бұрын
سيف جميل
@GoldenMiddleAge
2 жыл бұрын
شكرا
@huriale1617
3 ай бұрын
Is this a parodic channel or something ?
@shamshirbaaz
Жыл бұрын
The scimitar was not a real sword but a fantasy sword used to describe middle eastern swords. It takes its inspiration from the European falchion.
@0Ysi0
Жыл бұрын
No, that's not a scimitar
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Pre-Islamic Arabs even used swords. Looking at the lifestyle of the Arabs, they were nomadic so they didn't know how to make swords or arrows since you need blacksmithing skills for that. I think they just borrowed weapons from their enemies or traded with nearby civilizations in the Middle East in exchange for swords, spears, lances etc. Interestingly, most of the Prophet's swords were all made in Syria or imported from there.
@nas8794
2 жыл бұрын
So in your mind Arab didn't have any civilization at all ?, They were the caveman right ?
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement
2 жыл бұрын
@@nas8794 Of course not, that is not what i was saying. I was implying that nomadic societies generally don't know how to make weapons since that is not their main skill. Considering Arabs were notable merchants, it would make sense for them to trade with nearby societies who specialized in that department rather then make their own. And Arabs were actually considered one of the greatest traders in the Middle East since the Phoenicians.
@Buurba_Jolof
Жыл бұрын
@@GreaterAfghanistanMovement They imported swords from Ethiopia and India
@DonCaprioni
2 жыл бұрын
The content of your video is full of misinformation. Scimitar was never used from horseback. Curved swords were not introduced to Arabs by the Turks. Arabs are very used to fight from horseback before Islam and continued after Islam. There were famous nights who used to carry a sword in both hands while riding their horse in battlefield and would manoeuvre their horses with their legs and vocal instructions. Like Azzuber bin AlAwwam. Both straight swords were used by Arab infantry and curved swords were used by nights on horseback. Unfortunately you sir lack a lot of historical info to qualify to factually elaborate on this subject. Have you heard of the infamous Damascus steel swords both straight and curved ?! Have you heard of the Yamani swords (of Yemen) both straight and curved ?! You can’t just wade like that in a subject just because you are a sword replica hobbiest☝️😑!!
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement
2 жыл бұрын
No you are wrong and he is right. Arabs did not used curved swords because they don't belong to them, they belong to the Turks. The Turks and Mongols have a tradition of fighting on horseback while the Arabs historically do not. They were before Islam, mainly an infantry type of army who were mainly unorganized. Horses were only used by raiders to attack other tribes or settlements while the majority of fighting was done on foot or camelback.
@DonCaprioni
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreaterAfghanistanMovement Oh really ?! And who bred and developed the best waring horses ?! Have you heard of a horse breed named Arabian Horse ?! And what qualifications do you have Mr. Najibullah to make such bold statements about Arabs history any way ?! Is your doctorate thesis in Arab history by sheer coincidence now ?!
@DonCaprioni
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreaterAfghanistanMovement You need to educate yourself professor Najibullah. You need to research the Arabian horse and what it was used for 3000 years ago. Start with this link and then do some extra homework before you make bold statements. Bye👇 kzitem.info/news/bejne/14KwuZuCm4SkpGU
@GreaterAfghanistanMovement
2 жыл бұрын
@@DonCaprioni Why are you mad? This is history and history says that curved swords belong to the Turko-Mongols not Arabs. Arabs were not the only people who contributed to Islam, science and military you know, all Muslims from different backgrounds did. Arabian horses despite their names, did not originate from the Arabian peninsula. They originated from Egypt and were brought to the Middle East by Persians and Romans, the Bedouins only bred them to their elite status they have now. And don't worry about my username, this is just a pseudonym.
@DonCaprioni
2 жыл бұрын
@@GreaterAfghanistanMovement Ok suit yourself. It seems that I am discussing this subject with the wrong person. You can claim whatever you like. Good day.
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