I almost choked on my coffee when he said they hit a turkey vulture at 144 mph
@joemilazzo7830
4 ай бұрын
It’s sux cause it’s a beautiful car
@joemilazzo7830
4 ай бұрын
Why can’t GM make good cars
@miller3blade888
4 ай бұрын
I guess the brakes are a weak point
@Ryan-cp4rh
Ай бұрын
@@miller3blade888lmao the brakes are absolutely incredible
@enry_lebaron
Ай бұрын
@@joemilazzo7830 how's a turkey vulture GM's probelem
@chrissimmons9969
11 ай бұрын
These long term tests are my favorite content on this channel.
@Gabsgarage
10 ай бұрын
After over a year of ownership I’m still in love. I went to spring mountain raceway for the V academy and was absolutely blown away by the true capabilities of this car.
@daboxer181
6 ай бұрын
10spd or 6spd?
@speeddemon311
4 ай бұрын
Just needs a better engine that has more character!
@arnoldkintu6124
4 ай бұрын
@@speeddemon311 So 6.2L with 660+ HP is not enough?
@ivansolares2448
11 ай бұрын
Cant wait until these cars depreciate into my driveway in about a year.
@Ryan-cp4rh
7 ай бұрын
Got mine for $60k before taxes with only 3k miles (sticker was $75k). They are already way below new price
@dec1slh
2 ай бұрын
@@Ryan-cp4rhmost cars are way below new as soon as you drive off the lot after purchase. 20% depreciation in the first year is kind of average
@1LE_Ciko
20 күн бұрын
Mmm idk I’ve been lookin at a few and have noticed electrical problems is a thing
@冷飚
11 ай бұрын
I watched your review on the this car and got a 23 CT4-V Blackwing a month and half ago. I enjoy it sooooo much!! Thank you!
@karomatjohn254
8 ай бұрын
Any regrets?
@冷飚
7 ай бұрын
None, love it @@karomatjohn254
@HamSandvich
6 ай бұрын
@@karomatjohn254^?
@89dungey
6 ай бұрын
@@karomatjohn254doubt it. Solid daily car. Looks good & price
@Kinel_ski
5 ай бұрын
@@karomatjohn254none whatsoever. I also recently bought a ‘23 4-v Blackwing and am obsessed with it. Best car I’ve driven (including a lambo, AMG benzes, M bmw’s and more)
@FrankP210
3 ай бұрын
The best part of my long days is driving my ct4 v home. Its a blast people just move outta my way lol.
@2008tourer
11 ай бұрын
I really don't get why some people are demonizing certain cars for their theoretic inability to use them in the winter. Every car is fine in snow as long as you have proper tires and you have to learn to drive
@alexpaic2984
11 ай бұрын
Rear wheel drive car are a different game in snow over the front wheel that is why
@jasonthieme8926
11 ай бұрын
I had a Honda S2000. Went nowhere in the snow. Thankfully I can work from home now when it snows so it won't be a big deal. This is my next car. I have the sport trim now and love it but made the mistake of test driving the BW and now I can't wait to upgrade
@blkwng81
11 ай бұрын
The blackwing is a performer sedan. Would you critize the corvette, lamborghini, or ferrai because they aren't good in the snow.
@2008tourer
11 ай бұрын
@@blkwng81 not really, but again - it's not impossible to drive them in the snow. There is an Aston Martin DBS and 911s regularly being driven in the winter in my city
@alexpaic2984
11 ай бұрын
@@blkwng81 the ct4vbw is just about the perfect car but people have to bitch about something that’s all. Had to little to bitch about and he had to bring up its ability to drive in snow
@f600stuff
11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my electric blue 23 CT4V-Blackwing.
@TheLumberJacked
2 ай бұрын
Still loving it? How was it through winter wherever you are at?
@f600stuff
2 ай бұрын
Still love this car. It’s such a fun car to drive normal and then wakes up when you drive it hard. The shifting is like no other. I still love driving it. I do have a winter car. So this car gets put away in the New England winters. But others have mention great slows what what that is workth
@integrafreak1
11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this content
@dcb113
7 ай бұрын
I like the fact that you can take a couple of people in the back when needed vs. a mustang which hasn't had a functional back seat for years.
@Delvis343
11 ай бұрын
Carlos Lago remains one of the best in the business. Great summary. Great car!
@robertsole9970
11 ай бұрын
I have this exact car and I love it.
@krasnaludek298
11 ай бұрын
Great choice & color combo 👍🏻
@kirks06G35
11 ай бұрын
Me too nice choice, I don't have the upgraded seats but everything else is exactly the same and I love it. Does anyone else have a clutch clicks every time it's pressed in?
@THE_A.RAVEN1
11 ай бұрын
Me too it’s my favorite car to drive by far because I can actually stomp on it and throw it around. It’s like a full size go kart
@robertsole9970
11 ай бұрын
@@THE_A.RAVEN1 i agree, it’s far more nimble than my previous 350 Mustangs. Then on the highway I can cruise well over 100 and it’s rock solid. Even more than my previous 911 C4S.
@temporal8342
9 ай бұрын
Is the backseats that bad?
@TRBN8R
11 ай бұрын
"Would this car be better with a V8 and more rear seat room? Yeah" Good thing there's a car that exactly fits that description already, it's called the CT5-V Blackwing.
@justinbecker4772
11 ай бұрын
Are those two things worth 30k?
@TRBN8R
11 ай бұрын
@@justinbecker4772 That's up to the buyer, but unfortunately you're not getting a luxury sedan with a V8 under $90k anymore from anybody. The CT5-V is larger if you're okay with no V8 (or 6MT) at least without being significantly more pricey.
@kgisabeast
11 ай бұрын
@@TRBN8Rlexus IS500 is like 60k
@thomasferrarojr.9772
10 ай бұрын
@@kgisabeastThat car sucks
@nashbridges120
7 ай бұрын
@@kgisabeastAnd wildly more reliable, cheaper and longer lasting fun.
@derrickw5214
2 ай бұрын
It's an absolute riot, when it's actually driveable. Thanks to GM's indefinite parts backlog, it's been sitting 9, wait... actually 10 now... of the last 12 months.
@GeronimoBiggles
11 ай бұрын
Looking forward to another review after 100k and 200k miles to see the real issues all these sporty cars get outside of warranty coverage.
@karomatjohn254
8 ай бұрын
What type of sporty car do have or did you have?
@GeronimoBiggles
8 ай бұрын
@@karomatjohn254 I have the Blackwing currently. Mustang GT and WRX before this.
@karomatjohn254
8 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBiggles you have ct4 or ct5?
@GeronimoBiggles
8 ай бұрын
@@karomatjohn254 4 why?
@karomatjohn254
8 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBiggles I was thinking either to get 5 or 4 but I think I’ll go with 4 otherwise my wife gonna divorce me if I go with 5. ( I actually don’t have wife)
@ianautry941
11 ай бұрын
My 23 CT4V-BLACKWING puts a smile on my face everyday.
@daboxer181
6 ай бұрын
6spd or 10spd?
@ianautry941
6 ай бұрын
It is a 10spd
@daboxer181
6 ай бұрын
@@ianautry941 how are the shifts when in manual mode? I want the 10 speed over the 6-speed there's too much traffic in my city.
@ianautry941
6 ай бұрын
They are very quick. You can change settings in your V mode and My mode as far as how it shifts. It also has a "Performance Shift" mode when you are driving it hard. It tends to hold it in a lower gear longer in that mode. I got the auto as it is my daily and I wanted the radar cruise control. I generally just leave it in auto and shift with the paddles when I want to play around.
@markw9512
11 ай бұрын
That’s the problem with those damn turkey vultures: they NEVER carry liability coverage!!
@dannyd2639
21 күн бұрын
I’m saving up for a sports sedan. I was originally looking at the ct5v but the price and your review on the engine block failure really kept me from going through with it. I had my block on my Camaro blow up too with zero races or mods. Now seeing this I’m pretty confident I will get the 4v. Not only is it more affordable but the engine seems solid. And still quick enough to enjoy while commuting with my kids to school
@1LE_Ciko
20 күн бұрын
Idk few ct4 black wings I’ve looked at seem to have a habit of electrical problems
@Trumentality
19 күн бұрын
I love the handling of the 4 over the 5. Enthusiast car for sure!!
@driving_in_YYC
8 ай бұрын
At least the winter tires you finally found are some of the best available!
@alexkish9143
11 ай бұрын
One year down and 17k miles in mine... I think its time for some downpipes soon
is there gonna be a final send-off comparison test? It's not like Lincoln and Chrysler will be in it
@MidnightAspec
7 ай бұрын
Not really into domestic makes but, this is on my radar. When I'm done with my TLX (after years of Honda-Acura products), this could be the next move. Well done Caddy!!
@dominickdifulco3338
Ай бұрын
same i have the 22 accord sport turbo and love it and I have a 95 delsol but this cadi is definitely my next car
@vVeazel
10 ай бұрын
Great looking car, until you get over to the rear end. The design language just lacks continuity.
@jaxz4gto
11 ай бұрын
Great review!
@BMWho
9 ай бұрын
idk how i feel about the interior being noisy lol it kills me how much it quiets down the exhuast and I literally cant even hear other v8 cars right in front of me. Wish they would have shaved some sound deadening for weight savings
@Bungle
11 ай бұрын
$7,000 in body repairs in a single year. Someone has to say it - your employees are bad drivers.
@Themayseffect
10 ай бұрын
That's kinda par for the course when you put 40k on a car in a year. People are going to be thrashing it
@leonel9110
8 ай бұрын
@@Themayseffectnot only that I’m sure they replaced things that didn’t really need to be changed just for the sake of having it look as new as possible if that makes sense
@SuzukiKid400
6 ай бұрын
They hit a turkey vulture at 144mph. Not sure even a good driver could make an emergency manoeuvre at that speed.
@2233sc
11 ай бұрын
A great review, courtesy of Carlos Lago
@jwsnyder5021
2 ай бұрын
Have a '25 on order, Typhoon green 6-speed with those gorgeous bronze wheels...hoping for Oct-Nov arrival, we'll see.
@clubracer6
2 ай бұрын
Did you get a deal off MSRP? Any changes for 2025?
@michaelhumel4288
2 ай бұрын
I'm shopping between this and the 6th Gen Camaro SS 1LE. I'm a single dad to a 10 year who loves blasting down hilly back roads. Which would you pick?
@tolgaayazseven9139
2 ай бұрын
I am cross shopping this car with M3. Which one is quieter in the cabin while cruising? it's going to be my daily drive
@shalinhotshot
11 ай бұрын
Would you prefer it over the M3?
@westsideskateshop564
11 ай бұрын
100%
@BMWho
9 ай бұрын
steering, manual, chassis 100% better people argue bmw has the better interior but if you are like me you hop in hit you music and thats it and the rest is about the driving experience
@oldcrook510
5 ай бұрын
I almost got an M3 but I see them everywhere & they're not as comfortable for everyday use. I get more looks with my BW because there's not many around. I also tuned mine with JB4, down pipes & a throttle body and run around 600 hp (crank) that cost me 5k (well worth it). I also like that long term the cost of ownership + maintenance will be lower being a GM product vs. high German costs..
@RickSavageRadio
2 ай бұрын
Love this review. Looking to buy a used one - anyone see any issues picking one up with around 40k miles?
@killawhipz
11 ай бұрын
The front camera though???
@BertShackleford
11 ай бұрын
Carlos, Is the Premium fuel in Michigan 91 or 93 octane? I ask this because Arizona only has 91 octane as our highest tier. Many argue that the difference in octane rating is negligible but I disagree. Did your cohorts in California experience any variance during the 4VB's time on the West Coast sipping lesser gas? Nevertheless, I thoroughly enjoy these long term 40k reviews. Your C8 Corvette coverage was instrumental in our decision making process. Thank you for the information and your continued dedication. Stay classy my friends.
@dftns19
11 ай бұрын
It's 93
@spdcrzy
11 ай бұрын
So we have 87 (Regular), 89/91 (Plus), and 93 (Premium). We also have E85 and even E90 in some places, and the real-life octane rating of that is generally closer to 100.
@MrSuperflydude
9 ай бұрын
Looks alone id take this over any german counterpart
@alexpaic2984
11 ай бұрын
Wish a v8 in it? Sure but no. V6 been kicking v8 ass for some time now. Sure the v8 is the v8 but this is living proof the v6 are great engines no matter what they say. You didn’t blow this one up like it happened with the v8 that is hand built bla bla bla. It cost 30 k less and performance is not that different if you look at times. Do I need to say more? Ok I’ll say it. The 4 it handles better in all ways because of the excellent chassis it has and it will not be the same if the car was bigger with bigger back seat etc. the twin turbos are amazing and I drove the 5 on track and no doubt is a monster but not all in a good way. The 4 has what the 5 doesn’t and the 5 doesn’t have much the 4 has. 5 has the extra power for sure but as crazy as it sounds in this situation it doesn’t matter much because the 4 does an amazing job in putting down what it has. I was a the dealer service mine and they had a5 on the floor and a sales person there was talking me into trading my 4 for the 5. I am so glad I didn’t and I got to keep the extra 40k it would have cost me.
@drakegao816
7 ай бұрын
How is the space vs the type r fl5 2023? I am considering getting a ct4/ct5/m3 manual transmission
@forrestihler504
5 ай бұрын
I loved the music.
@vintageG1985
Ай бұрын
The only way to make it better is the v8 as an option and a wagon versions
@superfast30
6 ай бұрын
Love it!
@AprilWolf16
10 ай бұрын
Is the fading from the jeans removable from the grey seats?
@saves5650
2 ай бұрын
Depends on the quality of the detail shop you go to
@Nogi-aka-DJNugz
Ай бұрын
Does it come with a moonroof
@royward4495
7 ай бұрын
Recall back in 2018 the rumblings that Cadillac was going to have a smaller model slot in below the ATS and CTS? Then GM/Cadillac did an about-face and renamed and repriced the CTS and ATS to CT5/4 to compete on price with vehicle segments downmarket of those originally they competed in. The CT5/4 are nothing more than reskinned CTS and ATS models with wonky styling, a handful of extra horsepower and two extra gear cogs depending on the model chosen. The last-gen CTS was sized and priced in the market segment occupied by BMW 5 series, MB E-Class, Audi A6. Save for removal of premium content, I'm not drinking the kool-aid that a CT5 is a 3 series competitor or when the CT4 first came it was positioned as an MB A-Class, BMW 1 Series, Audi A3 competitor. The competitors moved upmarket in size, features and content and Cadillacs - save for driving well - didn't keep pace in the overall. And the styling of the ATS stills holds better than the reskinned awkward looking CT4. What luxury brand goes down on price instead of upping content on a model? Answer: Cadillac and its 'tweener approach with its sedans.
@jaredhuang2225
10 ай бұрын
Great video, too bad this car will always be the Boxster of the Blackwing range. They really should have just given it a NA V8, detuned LT4 from the C8 Corvette with 470hp would have made it much more desirable. I went to a Cadillac event with the previous gen CT4 and CT5 V and the V8 exhaust on the CT5 was so much better than the V6.
@MrMe1280
8 ай бұрын
Just buy a CT5 V BW problem solved. They are trying to hit a price range. Going with a V8 increases the price substantially
@jaredhuang2225
5 ай бұрын
@@MrMe1280Some of us want the smaller/lighter car, and I highly doubt the TT V6 is cheaper than a NA V8 that would be parts shared with the C8.
@markovwms
11 ай бұрын
This car seems more comparable to an RS3
@jetro7349
11 ай бұрын
Couple more thoughts from an owner... -AKG audio is disappointing -Interior is a 50/50 mix of luxury and GM parts pin -Small fuel tank just like the 5 -Paint scratches and chips really easy(PPF and/or Ceramic needed)
@JamesonsDiecastCars
11 ай бұрын
Small tank? Really? I think from memory its 18.5 gallons. That's plenty big for a car of this size. Granted, cruising range could be better, likely if they downsized from a 3.6L to a 3.0L like much of the competition. I find the AKG is superior to the Bose, it's adequate. Remember, its the standard audio. The German's often charge for upgraded audio.
@jetro7349
11 ай бұрын
@@JamesonsDiecastCars Maybe I’m just spoiled with my Jeep that’s 400+ miles a tank but I never seem to get more than 250 with the Blackwing.
@JamesonsDiecastCars
11 ай бұрын
@@jetro7349 I normally get to 300 but I admit, I drive like a grandma on the way to work, but drive with purpose on the way home lol.
@GeronimoBiggles
11 ай бұрын
its not the fuel tank size (which is big) its the low MPG of this powerful engine lol. I swear the NA V8 would've still been more fuel efficient than this.
@lf4_greg
11 ай бұрын
Owner here as well: - Agree on the AKG audio. My previous BMW's HK speakers were better. - Agree on interior. Mine has some rattles and creaks I've remedied with foam. - I get around 260 miles to a full tank (avg 14-16mpg with the manual). - Mine is fully PPF'd. 0 regrets choosing this over a G80 M3 manual. Now a should I have gotten a ZL1? Maybe lol
@ParkerJune-e4b
3 күн бұрын
Hirthe Square
@P51
11 ай бұрын
CT5 was hit by a deer or did the car hit the deer?
@joemilazzo7830
10 ай бұрын
Is this car reliable I’m thinking getting one
@jonboll2066
4 ай бұрын
No. This car promised to paint my fence and didn't show up on the scheduled day. It showed up 3 days late. Unreliable for sure.
@ssamcobalt4956
9 ай бұрын
Awesome car
@akear
11 ай бұрын
With crazy Mary in charge what future does this vehicle have?
@bluearcherx
5 ай бұрын
I'm not going to lie, no super cruise for ct4vbw is ruining it for me
@RuthHerring-d7h
2 күн бұрын
Boyle Skyway
@thaiblkman904
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, the vaccines are for kids. I don't really can't sit back there. My daughter rides up front. Nobody really rides in a bag unless my older daughter is with me. And she rides in the bag she fits very well because she's a little person
@drakegao1
6 ай бұрын
Glad that I didn't buy this version. The 2025 ct5 blackwing interior gets a huge update, I assume ct4 blackwing will do the same.
@rubberwoody
2 ай бұрын
the baby blackwing
@HP3682
11 ай бұрын
I want one
@RaymondYim-s9i
10 күн бұрын
Ivy Village
@EdmundPauley-x1y
8 күн бұрын
Deckow Manors
@StevenSVT
9 ай бұрын
Wait until you replace the brakes! About $5k roughly (pads and rotor)
@GeronimoBiggles
9 ай бұрын
really? for the steel brakes or the fancy carbon ceramic ones?
@StevenSVT
9 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBiggles I’ve done the carbon ceramic set for a customer of mine
@GeronimoBiggles
9 ай бұрын
@@StevenSVT yeah thank God I didn't get any of those ridiculous track parts lol
@MrMe1280
8 ай бұрын
I would have recommended down grading to steel rotors carbon disks are only necessary for track use
@rocketdude60
7 ай бұрын
Ct4 v does not have carbon rotors
@freshjnew
7 ай бұрын
Protecc Carlos at all costs
@rdavidsen7344
11 ай бұрын
And... how are the turkey vultures reviewing this car and channel?
@eahughey
10 ай бұрын
Cadilac CT's like to hit stuff 🤔
@asharsiddiqui9647
5 ай бұрын
7:52
@jonathanrodriguez6161
11 ай бұрын
Well at least the engine didn’t blow up lol
@olivejuice7256
11 ай бұрын
This video brought to you courtesy of the word "courtesy"... lol. I kid, I kid. But I think you guys are driving it wrong, I'm averaging 16.6 MPG and need new front brakes at 26k miles.
@FredBristol-p9p
6 күн бұрын
Roob Junctions
@MrMe1280
8 ай бұрын
The best solution to your tire size issue buy aftermarket wheels lol The stock wheels are ugly anyway
@tazoriginal
9 ай бұрын
It would better as a 2 door!!
@elvay6847
2 ай бұрын
How do you hit a turkey vulture? They're the size of a small child, so you had to see it. And how do you hit a curb in a 70k dollar car? Perhaps ya'all need to change your name to Car and Piss-poor Driver
@philllsxga.7737
10 ай бұрын
I got a great idea let's put more modules and gizmos and gadgets in these cars but take reliability from the drivetrain and charge the customer 100,000k!!! Whatever happened to the 300,000 mile GMs like I used to own?? My 17k dollar GMC had 252,000 miles on it and NEVER not once left me stranded! Not once!!! 17 k Dollars and 252,000 miles!!! Just more modern GM junk!!!
@beach2787
5 ай бұрын
Ugly
@sebastianromero420
7 ай бұрын
I would rather get an f80
@nrvous309
11 ай бұрын
Amazing car, but that spec is trash
@johnm5131
11 ай бұрын
neat car, but who wants the GM "fall apart" that happens right around warranty expiration. Same price is a BMW M2. Seeing as my Suburban just got towed out of my driveway, my money went to BMW...
@ayushmalpeddi2793
11 ай бұрын
Dude the Cadillac is way cheaper to maintain, replace, and repair than a M2 or any modern bimmer. Also every old BMW I’ve seen is falls apart. Yes BMWs have better initial quality but long term they start to fall apart and become quite unreliable and expensive to maintain.
@blkwng81
11 ай бұрын
How many miles were on your suburban? Mine has 90,000 and is still doing good.
@GeronimoBiggles
11 ай бұрын
you never owned a BMW before have you... good luck.
@priceless409
11 ай бұрын
@@GeronimoBiggles😂😂 was thinking the same thing!!!
@thomasferrarojr.9772
10 ай бұрын
This is a priceless comment! Even BMW owners sell when they hit 50k. 😂
@nunyubizness5483
11 ай бұрын
What's your test car currently worth? Wasted a lotta money on those options....
@justinbecker4772
11 ай бұрын
Market probably puts it a bit below 60k. Not bad for 40k hard miles.
@JamesonsDiecastCars
11 ай бұрын
About $8k in options isn't a lot for this segment. Also, dont forget the car comes with a nearly $4k driving school for FREE.
@GeronimoBiggles
11 ай бұрын
Best spec is base spec. I've tried both. Don't waste your money on useless stickers and colorful plastic seats.
@nunyubizness5483
11 ай бұрын
Disgraceful GM didn't offer this with a LT1 or LT4.....
@carvdecarv
11 ай бұрын
Uhm... The LT4 is in the CT5V BW.. Agree on the LT1 though
@krasnaludek298
11 ай бұрын
Would have made the car heavier; impacts handling. The 4 is designed as a mid-size sedan; not a full-size.
@alexpaic2984
11 ай бұрын
There’s a reason behind that though actually more than one reason.
@GeronimoBiggles
11 ай бұрын
@@krasnaludek298 LT1 weighs the same as the LF4, its just corporate $$ strategy.
@tampablackwing
11 ай бұрын
LF4 is simply the stronger motor. Way more torque and about the same HP. I beat a catless headers c7 the other day ... Downpipes and e85, plus with them being tuneable now, these things get faster for way less money than an LT1.
@revolutionday1
11 ай бұрын
I always see elderly people in these, who "just wanted a Cadillac", but this is what they were sold.
@RickBuss
11 ай бұрын
No you don’t. CT4’s maybe…not Blackwings😅
@revolutionday1
11 ай бұрын
@@RickBuss How in the actual fuck are you going to try to tell ME what I see?! Put this red nose on, clown. 🤡
@blkwng81
11 ай бұрын
They look very similar. My 23 blackwing doesn't have any badges on it telling you it's a blackwing. Look for the black vent behind the front wheel
@olivejuice7256
11 ай бұрын
@blkwng81 Really? They started added Blackwing badging on the rear in 23. You should be able to get a free badge from Cadillac if yours doesn't have it.
@blkwng81
11 ай бұрын
@olivejuice7256 I have contacted cadillac and they are giving me gm points to buy a small blackwing badge from a gm dealer
@hswing11
4 ай бұрын
With General Motors average reliability and perfomance reord. and it's piss poor resale value why would anybody spend a $100,000 when their are better vehicles to choose from. DO YOU RESEARCH AND AVIOD BUYERS REMORSE
@chrisdeming9287
3 ай бұрын
The CT4 Blackwing does not cost 100k. 70-75k fully loaded. But yeah, the depreciation on these cars is rough.
@Jpowellsuckballs
11 ай бұрын
Still rather get a Quadrifoglio, there's certain specialness that Caddy can't match
@James-wg8mn
11 ай бұрын
Haven't driven a Quadrifoglio. But on the road, they don't look that special. CT4 is more rare and especially the blackwing has more vibe to it.
@westsideskateshop564
11 ай бұрын
Disagree big time. The CT4-V BW with a 6 speed manual over the Quadrifoglio allllll day
@blkwng81
11 ай бұрын
I wish the blackwing stood out better then the base CT4 visually.
@GeronimoBiggles
11 ай бұрын
Special as in you'd have to be special to spend 20k more for a less engaging automatic car that will break down all the time?
@James-wg8mn
11 ай бұрын
It stands out big time by itself, and especially compared to the regular CT4@@blkwng81
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