I’d pay good money for an audiobook of this man just talking about old rifles for an hour.
@sixela9389
2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan makes it so interesting
@samiam619
2 жыл бұрын
Guaranteed to put you to sleep. He does go on and on a bit.
@samiam619
2 жыл бұрын
7 and a half minutes was all I could take. Did he ever get to the point?
@crowzreal
2 жыл бұрын
@@samiam619 so ignorant. holy shit....
@neilholmes8200
2 жыл бұрын
Jacob Levy you misspelled hours 😄
@Tulip1811
2 жыл бұрын
This new backdrop has given Jonathan even greater powers of charisma and authority, really liking it.
@loreman2803
2 жыл бұрын
Litterally every example for every possible version of a question 🤣
@wessexdruid5290
2 жыл бұрын
The sound is very variable, though.
@SnoopReddogg
2 жыл бұрын
A very polite way of saying "Back at ya, Ian"
@a-skepticalman6984
2 жыл бұрын
It's a bit "we need guns, lots of guns"
@kisstheapex2203
2 жыл бұрын
Gun powder makes all men stand tall
@mmclaurin8035
2 жыл бұрын
Q: When is a Springfield a Mauser? A: Always
@Rehteal
2 жыл бұрын
Jon talking about hitscan guns in games makes me want a purely virtual version of the Royal Armouries that has a catalogue of guns in games. Imagine someone going and ripping gun models from the various guns through gaming history then putting them in VR format for visitors of the museum to go and fire them on a range. Not factoring the development costs of this project (let's assume it's a donation to the historical society) it would be a good way to generate some funds for the museum. It would be EVEN COOLER if you could get notes from the devs on each gun, or concept art and such. Imagine being able to go to the Halo exhibit or something and seeing the evolution of the pistol.
@w00llee14
2 жыл бұрын
In a few of the Gamespot videos Jon's been in he's stated a few times that he supports the idea of game developers visiting places like the Royal Armouries to do more research and note every detail of each firearm to make games more realistic and immersive.
@sleepCircle
Жыл бұрын
the royal armoury approved line of updates for H3
@robertwilliams2623
2 жыл бұрын
That room your in is a gun lovers dream come true. Thanks for the info
@cavscout888
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, and didn't spare the important but brutal details. THANKS!
@Chiller01
2 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that the British went back toward a longer heavier rifle with the P14. I believe the ballistics won out over ergonomics. The Americans on the other hand went shorter and handier with the Springfield 1903. The irony is most Americans ultimately were issued long heavy M17’s and the British ended up with handier SMLE’s. In my entirely irrelevant opinion, I would have liked to carry a shorter, lighter M17.
@King.Leonidas
2 жыл бұрын
m14 was known as the best sniper rifle
@LUR1FAX
2 жыл бұрын
@@King.Leonidas According to who? AR-10 based platforms are both lighter and more accurate. Main reason the US are still using the M14, is because no one wanted to buy M14s from America.
@stamfordly6463
2 жыл бұрын
And yet having fought a war they decided to stick with the Lee-Enfield with it's "good enough" cartridge, extra five rounds and without locking surfaces that need a special brush to clean. For all the supposed superior features of the Mauser system from a marksman's point of view I think it's telling that when the French came to design a new bolt-action service rifle they chose rear locking.
@jameshealy4594
2 жыл бұрын
@@LUR1FAX He's referring to the Model 1914 rifle as used earlier in the century, not the Garand with big boy pants.
@LethalDosage69
2 жыл бұрын
The Lee Enfield and SMLE had a noteworthy list of complaints against it, the P13 was the culmination of addressing most of the concerns in that list. Ww1 was the only reason it and its new cartridge didn't replace the SMLE and .303. After the war, large stocks of rifles and ammunition and no budget prevented any new attempt at a replacement, even the Mk.V and No.1 Mk.VI didn't go through due to cost.
@anthonyburke5656
Жыл бұрын
My Grandfather, who was decorated in the Boer War, used to say the Boer could light a match at 500 yards. He was decorated for leading a retreat, the way he told it, he stood up, after 1/3rd of his troop had been shot, shouted “Fuck this for a lark ,I’m off” then ran to cover in a rock outcrop and put the Boers under fire. Within 15 minutes the rest of his troop followed.
@dukecraig2402
2 жыл бұрын
The crooked bolt handle isn't there to put the bolt handle close to the firing hand, it's simply a bonus feature of it's intended design. The reason it exists has to do with the noticeable absence of the third "safety" lug of a Mauser type action on that rifle, the bolt handle of the P14/US 1917 rifle doubles as the third lug known as the "safety lug" on Mauser type actions. Things like the firing hand being closer to the bolt handle and not having to modify the bolt handle for a scope are several bonuses of that feature that people have incorrectly attributed as to why the bolt handle was designed that way when in fact it was to act as the safety lug of a Mauser type action. The third lug of a Mauser type action which is found on the bolt just forward of the back of the receiver opening (when the bolt is closed) is there as a last resort to stop the bolt from embedding itself in the shooter's face in the event of the two main lugs failing, since the third lug has nothing to do with head spacing and therefore don't require an exact fitment there's always a generous space between the back edge of it and the opening in the receiver it's supposed to engage in the event of the two locking lugs failing, if you look at the crooked bolt handle of the P14/US 1917 rifle you'll see that when it's closed the bolt handle is recessed into an area of the receiver duplicating the effect of the third lug of a Mauser type action without the extra work of having to machine the third lug on the bolt, everything else like the firing hand being closer to the bolt handle and scopes being able to be mounted without modification to the bolt handle are just added bonuses.
@tyrssen1
2 жыл бұрын
My P14 still shoots like a dream.
@77Beneboy
2 жыл бұрын
jonathan seems to have enjoyed a sunny holiday, he looks quite tanned!
@PaulP999
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the size and shape and geometry of those base plates at the five round magazines suggests that extended to ten wouldn't have been such a challenge..?
@TheTemplarFear
2 жыл бұрын
Love the work! Keep it coming!
@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the *Mausfield* 👏
@sharonrigs7999
2 жыл бұрын
Enfauser
@Seraphus87
2 жыл бұрын
Title gave me flashbacks to Ottoman Enfausers though...
@katywalker8322
2 жыл бұрын
As opposed to a Field Mouse.....
@duartevilelas9688
2 жыл бұрын
Coolest, setup, ever 👉 All the rifles, just standing in the back 👌👌👌 The star of the show is, as promised, a very interesting piece of weaponry 👍
@marksadventures3889
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Would you make a video on sniper rifles for 1st or 2nd World War please? And or the best since. Thanks for posting.
@davidwallwork3623
2 жыл бұрын
Every time I see the background I wonder if there is an Anschutz mod 54 over your right shoulder.
@derekcole5593
2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to this sort of stuff for ages. I was a bit distracted by the racks behind as I was looking for a rifle I donated to the armouries years ago. (BSA1215). A bit needle in a haystack, I know.
@pweter351
2 жыл бұрын
My SMLE MK3 STAR puts allot of rounds downrange fast, part action part ten round mag. Love those aperture sights though
@tonyhe8106
2 жыл бұрын
So impressive,amazing guns!as a manufacturer for CO2 cartridge for airgun, I love this vedio!
@Kav.
2 жыл бұрын
Any chance of a video on the two 6.25mm EM-2s? I don't know how much information is out there about them, I know we've briefly talked about them before. Also the "sniper" EM-2s would make for an interesting brief video, I'm curious about how durable that optic actually was under testing. Also this format is very good.
@donaldkellar459
Жыл бұрын
After WW1, many surplus M1917 rifles were converted to magnum calibers by American gunsmiths for African safaris. Remington made a civilian hunting rifle based on the M1917 action.
@kirkmooneyham
2 жыл бұрын
I wish more shooter video games actually took ballistics into account, perhaps not fully, but in a way that would add a bit of verisimilitude.
@Milbrown_Worker
2 жыл бұрын
can you talk about the canadian ross rifle?
@roykliffen9674
2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is reduced bullet drop not the main advantage of a smaller, faster bullet? Gravity is (more or less) a constant and is easily adjusted for in the sights. It's just a case of getting the distance correct. What is an unknown is the effect of wind on the direction of the bullet; you can adjust windage for the strength and direction of the wind at the shooter's location but that doesn't mean necessarily that the wind will remain constant between the shooter and the target. A faster and smaller bullet will provide less time to be "blown off course" due to a side wind component and will therefor more accurate.
@michaeldelucci4473
2 жыл бұрын
All and all I own a Number 5 jungle carbine it's my pleasure shooting rifle
@gljnjo
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan Guys here
@reddevilparatrooper
2 жыл бұрын
My Chilean 1895 Mauser which the South African Boers used is a cock on closing. So it's a copy of the earlier Mauser 1895 bolt.
@Willy_Tepes
2 жыл бұрын
That was a explanation of trajectory that was a bit lacking. The benefit of a flatter shooting bullet is that ranging becomes easier, you don't need to be as precise with distance calculation if your bullet does not drop so rapidly.
@iansnell8897
2 жыл бұрын
It works because you can see what you are shooting at. I have shot &hit a target(200 ltr) drum at 300 yards with a Winchester 94 in 45 long Colt. The only problem is i had to aim at the top of the stop butt/berm, which would have at least 25 feet above the drum
@Willy_Tepes
2 жыл бұрын
@@iansnell8897 That was a adjust until you hit situation. You did not calculate the distance, set your sights to 300 yards and hit it, which is the problem we are disussing.
@iansnell8897
2 жыл бұрын
@@Willy_Tepes Willy you are 100% right. I did know the distance, the range was 300 long, &the drum was at its end. I walked the hitting round in by following the sand spurts. Can't remember how many I took, but it was a creditable performance as I recall. It wasn't my rifle either. Not brand new but recent production &Little used. Merry Christmas to you.
@Willy_Tepes
2 жыл бұрын
@@iansnell8897 I had a really good Anschutz 22LR rifle that I used to hunt rabbit with. I used to shoot at the oil drums at the quarry I hunted at. 200-300 meters distance was no problem when I kept one oil drum above. Merry Christmas to you too.
@TheIrishGamerGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Hello again 👋
@Eggomania86
2 жыл бұрын
The British should have simply necked up the 30-06 to their .312 174gr bullets. That would have simplified things. Or the British could have necked down the 8x57mm to .312 bullet diameter. If they would have kept their .303 (.312) projectile and used a more modern case they probably would have had a working cartridge for the p-14 or p-13 rifles. It would have had decent barrel life, and performed on par with the American and German contemporaries.
@flatmoon6359
2 жыл бұрын
Three rifles to show today,looks like,lots of videos to come ,from look of background
@SophiaAstatine
2 жыл бұрын
I feel so sad that these kinds of rifles are all being replaced with modern, automatic, hella plastic looking stuff. It's cars all over again. We once had the glorious bugatti type 43. Now they all have the shape of a used bar of soap on wheels. Such a shame.
@Johnconno
2 жыл бұрын
All he's missing is a top-hat.
@mickhall88
2 жыл бұрын
Why does Jonathan always look like a ghost on the intro cards?? Bit heavy on the outer glow in photoshop I think
@jonathanferguson1211
2 жыл бұрын
Not my choice :)
@mickhall88
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't think it would be@@jonathanferguson1211. . One for the design department I guess. That was another excellent and informative video from yourself and the Royal Armouries. Really enjoy the content Thanks
@jonathanferguson1211
2 жыл бұрын
@@mickhall88 Although I am hoping it gets me the nickname 'Obi Gun Kenobi'... And thank you very much!
@mickhall88
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanferguson1211 😆😆 That's just changed everything! Keep the spectral glow. I look forward to the Imperial blaster mod. 4009 video
@flyboy22b
2 жыл бұрын
Was lucky enough to hold one in 2013… after we’d lifted it from a taliban cache. These old boys know how to last in sub-optimal conditions!!
@rogue3095
2 жыл бұрын
My 93 pattern Spanish 1910 Oviedo Mauser is a cock on close Mauser lol.
@devonmorrowii7670
2 жыл бұрын
Noice
@davidkersey2414
2 жыл бұрын
Video games have been better than that for a long time.. many games have had bullet drop over distance for at least a decade..
@-----REDACTED-----
2 жыл бұрын
Let’s poke the smelly fanboys… When is an Enfield a Mauser? Simple: when it’s better. 😏 😂😂😂
@ihcfn
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Johnathan, I've always wondered if there are any documented uses of the volley fire sights in combat? It doesn't seem that practical in a real world setting.
@jonathanferguson1211
2 жыл бұрын
I've only ever come across one set of data on this, posted by the late Tony Edwards on an internet forum; "In 1899 the War Office wished to ascertain the performance of magazine rifles in India and Egypt and sent a questionnaire to selected units and published the results as “Abstract of Reports on Magazine Rifles used in Operations in India and Egypt, 1897-98”. Question 10 asked “Was long-range firing resorted to, and if so, with what results?” A selection of answers were: 1st Bn. Royal West Surrey Yes, with good results, in so far that the fire of the enemy from inaccessible points, 1,800 or 2,000 yards distant was kept down by occasional shots from picked marksmen, and of larger parties by section volleys. 1st Bn. The Buffs Nearly all fire was “long-range”. Volleys were kept up and as far as could be seen, with the eye and with glasses, with very good results. Enemy would not face the Lee-Metford. Maj. Gen. Bindon Blood says “Long-range volleys …had a most demoralizing effect.” 2nd. Bn. Royal Irish Rgt. Yes; on the Semana. Results mostly satisfactory, physically and morally. Absence of smoke and extreme effective range materially affected formation and movements of enemy. 2nd, Bn. Yorkshire Long-range fire frequently resorted to. ..Enemy in one case frequently dispersed by volleys at 1,600 yards, and the day after party completely dispersed at 1,400 yards. 1st Bn. Royal Scots Fusiliers Long-range volleys resorted to on several occasions. Volleys well timed and accurate. 2nd. Bn. Royal Sussex Nearly all long-range volleys even, up to 2,600 yards, which scattered enemy; it is evident that some of the bullets fell among them. 1st Bn. Dorsetshire Yes, on several occasions. The wonderful accuracy of the long-range fire of the Lee-Metford was clearly shown by the shooting of the Afridis. 1st.Bn. Grenadier Guards Yes. First volley at Omdurman was fired at 2,700 yards and fire maintained until Dervishes stopped at about 750 yards. Effects appeared excellent, but it is difficult to apportion them among guns, Maxims, and rifles. There were some dissenting replies though. 2nd.Bn. Lancashire A few section volleys at 1,900 yards. Results apparently nil. 1st.Bn. Northants Very poor results. Enemy always presented a moving target, and not a large one. Overall however the replies were very favourable, most stating that the minimum effect was to disperse the enemy and break up their concentrations. Also that the morale effect on the enemy was great in the face of volley fire.’"
@ihcfn
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanferguson1211 Wow very detailed reply, thank you very much! It seems breaking up enemy formations was the best use then.
@teaser6089
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanferguson1211 That last report is interesting to me, it's the only report (at least from what I can read) that mentions that the enemy presented a smaller moving targets, instead of a large force moving at the same time. I wonder if the "enemy" is that case decided to take a different tactic, when compared to the other reports, or if in all cases the enemy didn't present a large force.
@samholdsworth420
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanferguson1211 Appreciate all you do!
@jonathanferguson1211
2 жыл бұрын
@@samholdsworth420 Thanks Sam!
@alexv6324
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that it was actually based on the Springfield. That's just funny. Pity we decided to standardize in the 1903 after the war. Though the U.S. did eventually go with the Garand by WW2 so ehh. 🤷♂️
@LUR1FAX
2 жыл бұрын
The M1903 Springfield was pretty much almost as good as the M1917 Enfield once they switched the 1903 to use rear aperture sights.
@allangibson2408
2 жыл бұрын
The 1903 wasn’t standardised until just before WW1. The 1903 variants are wildly different from the later ones (and potentially dangerous to shoot to boot due to significant manufacturing errors).
@RedXlV
2 жыл бұрын
@@LUR1FAX Yes, but given that there already significantly more of the M1917 than the M1903 as of 1920, it would've made more sense to standardize on the M1917 at the time. Unfortunately, at the time target shooting was considered a higher priority than practicality on the battlefield. And target shooters preferred the M1903's windage-adjustable rear sight, even though the rear-mounted peep sight is obviously the better choice for the average fresh out of boot camp soldier who's not an Olympic-level marksman.
@pweter351
2 жыл бұрын
Well they say that so they aren't copying the potential enemy.
@RedXlV
2 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Shlock Had the .276 Garand been adopted, NATO most likely would've standardized on the British 7x43mm round (or a near-identical American round), since that would simply be a shorter version of what America was already using, just like how 7.62x51mm is a shorter .30-06 with nearly the same ballistics. And as for the Garand itself, it would've been about 1 pound lighter (very nice for soldiers in the field) and had a 10-round instead of 8-round clip. Something akin to the M14 probably still would've been adapted from its basic design in the 1950s, but with the lighter, lower-recoiling bullet it would've been a proper assault rifle. The smaller round might also have resulted in a higher-capacity magazine, like 25 or even 30 rounds. Or they might have kept it to 20 rounds anyway, on the premise that keeping the mag shorter would be good for firing in the prone position. After all, even the M16 started out with a 20-round mag until they decided it needed to match the AK-47's 30 rounds.
@F1ghteR41
2 жыл бұрын
What a nice chequering on that 1912 prototype! Also, nearly 849 m/s doesn't sound that great until you consider the bullet weight of 10.69 g, resulting in a 3852.14 J of muzzle energy. This figure is in the ballpark of modern hunting loads of .30-06, not the M1906, which developed its 823 m/s (although from a somewhat shorter barrel) with a 9.72 g bullet, thus having about 3291.82 J of muzzle energy. I'm not really sure how one can just 'skip' several decades of gunpowder development in several years to get .276 to viability in military service.
@teaser6089
2 жыл бұрын
Kinda interesting how many and I mean many prototype military trials rifles have nice chequering on the rifles and in basically 100% of the cases that's gone by the time it gets adopted haha.
@KDX420
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love my P14, its almost perfect in condition and still has the volley sights. I suspect it must have left England before the Weedon Repair Standard but I have been unable to figure out where it might have gone. I suspect the Spanish Civil War!
@chexquest87
2 жыл бұрын
I have a remington P14 with it's volley sights as well- I would love to know how it retained them!
@jimstanga6390
2 жыл бұрын
My first Pattern 14 was an Eddystone with volley sights. The bore was shot out, and I had a company called PAC-Nor make me a new barrel, and I had a very nice man in Georgia (Evans Obsolete Screws) rebarrel the action for me. He was also able to come up with some replacement parts. After learning a great deal about the Pattern 14 from this experience I resolved to get a Remington and Winchester model as well. Pattern 14 receivers started popping up all over the place right after that. When I learned that Criterion Barrels was making new barrels for the Pattern 14 (in the white) I jumped at the chance to get them and complete 2 more rifles from the ground up. I managed to get all 3 completed by the latter half of 2014. Then I had a 100th anniversary range shoot with my friends. It was a real kick to shoot 3 rifles that had not existed for 80 + years….essentially newly refurbished Pattern 14’s. That was a good day. I left the Criterion Barrel guys great feedback on their barrel….
@tinutu
2 жыл бұрын
I have a question regarding firearms maintenance in a museum - If something comes in with repairable and unintentional mechanical defects (so not intentionally demilitarised), as a museum would you fix or improve it's functionality? If so, is there a certain criteria beyond which you wouldn't intervene to restore it to full function? Very much appreciate Jonathan's input even though I have never interacted with firerarms (my country is funny that way), I have always been fascinated by the engineering and mechanical side. Thank you for taking time to make content on such interesting firearm stories.
@ShortT-RexLikeArms
2 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal has episodes on both the P14 and the P17, I would recommend everyone that's interested in military history to check them out. Plus the show is presented by a Wookiee.
@jonathanferguson1211
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I should have given them a shoutout. They are top folk.
@Ulani101
2 жыл бұрын
"Then war were declared, " seemed to get in the way of many projects.
@1zeisele
2 жыл бұрын
That's no moon... ehm ... that's no Wookie. It's a Sasquatch. kzitem.info/news/bejne/l29q0ZV9sZ2qrGk
@WardenWolf
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the 1903 is so smooth on cocking that it eliminates any advantage cock-on-close has over cock-on-open. I think cock-on-close has an advantage over an actual German K98 which is a substantially rougher action, but the US refinement of the action turns that on its head. I own two 1903A3 actions as well as two Mauser 98's, one German the other Turkish. And, while not an Enfield, I do own a Japanese Type 99 so I have experience with a cock-on-close Mauser. There is no slowdown caused by the smooth camming of the 1903, but the Mausers cause a definite slowdown and there is a noticeable slowdown caused while closing the Type 99. I thus must conclude that the 1903's improved camming is superior to both.
@T30-z5w
2 жыл бұрын
If your cycling an empty weapon, sure I would agree. However add the reality of sticky primary extraction after firing that can occur with a dirty chamber in a battlefield environment and cocking on opening becomes a bit more difficult.
@dukecraig2402
2 жыл бұрын
@@T30-z5w It's not an issue because of the camming feature on any Mauser type action, that's exactly why it exists, I had an M1917 that the bore and chamber were so rough that one day a cartridge was stuck in the chamber so badly that it broke the extractor when I lifted the bolt handle. The camming feature of a Mauser type action is there for that exact scenario, it's toggle, straight pull and other type of actions that have a problem with extraction of casings from dirty chambers.
@borkwoof696
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not just a matter of cock on close or open but also of the weight of the striker spring you have to cock. On a Lee-Enfield that spring is much lighter than on a Mauser.
@PURPLECATDUDE7734
2 жыл бұрын
I love my Mauser but the SMLE action does seem faster. Sounds like a cock-on-closing Mauser action is the best of both worlds.
@muhammadnursyahmi9440
2 жыл бұрын
Cock-on closing Mauser. Arisaka rifles certainly came to mind
@3wolfsdown702
2 жыл бұрын
Mauser cock on open has a smoother action you don't have to force the lock closing
@borkwoof696
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not.
@erikskole7669
2 жыл бұрын
If you like the cock on close Mauser look into the south American Mausers. I have a 95 Brazilian in 7x57, and I love it. It's just a 93 Spanish with a different label. But you can get Brazilian, Argentinan, and Chilean for a decent price. I had an 03a3 as a kid and loved it. But I now prefer the action on my Mauser. The 7mm is still pretty peppy and fun to shoot.
@derekp2674
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan and team, that was informative and entertaining. In the 1990's I was a rifle club treasurer at Harwell and my club had three 7.62 mm converted P14's as full bore target rifles for the shorter ranges.
@SuperPwndProductions
2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a P14 within the last year, so I’m really glad you made a video about its development and history. Thanks Jonathan and merry Christmas!
@Nukaboy-fb5kn
2 жыл бұрын
On April fools you should just say the gun goes boom when you pull the trigger
@Cheshire9k
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always! Was wondering if its possible to make the audio louder though, sometimes watching those in public with a headset on mobile and its kind a hard to hear Jonathan's soothing voice even on max volume.
@communistdoggo7419
2 жыл бұрын
i love the woodwork on these. especially on the model 1913, so gorgeous.
@paulwolf7562
2 жыл бұрын
You could say that, Ian's channel sent me over here? You guys all seem to cross each other's paths, alot. Anyways, personally, I would consider the P-14/M1917 to be better than the 1903 Springfield or the SMLE? Basically the reason is better rear sights. Course, that's just my opinion. Great channel, you have.
@thedoctrinetv
2 жыл бұрын
At first I was like I didn't know that guy who played cranky Scottish Dr. Who was into guns.
@dukefanshawe6815
Жыл бұрын
In this episode Jonathan explains why America's ammo is better than Britain's!
@paulchilds1893
2 жыл бұрын
Always interesting to hear about the development and half-step design changes accumulate to see how the (eventually) iconic designs are arrived at.
@Y10HK29
2 жыл бұрын
well, at least theres no ergonomic grip on it with a sawed-off stock covered in tape
@ovs8691
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lecture, British Forgotten Weapons guy
@redtobertshateshandles
2 жыл бұрын
A fired gun is a club. A Mauser can chamber that oversize cartridge in a dirty chamber. Your Lee Enfield can't coz it has to cock. I'd like to see a chambering and extraction challenge. I'll take German any day of the week.
@bruceinoz8002
2 жыл бұрын
Lee Enfields and the P-14 / M-17 have HELICAL locking surfaces which aid measurably in final "ramming" of the cartridge. A Lee Enfield with a "sloppy" chamber will chamber and fire safely with an alarming anoint of crud in the action. Being a RIMMED cartridge, it headspaces on the rim, not a line on the case shoulder. the "exposed bolt-head / chamber entrance also makes it easier to keep clean than the front-lockers. If a SMLE magazine i REALLY fouled with mud and debris, the firer can simply remove and pocket it for later cleaning, and carry on with single loading; the small, spring-loaded extractor will "clip" over a chambered round MUCH easier than a Mauser 98 extractor ever would. Remember British troops were on a "two-way rifle range", somewhere on the planet, CONSTANTLY well before the Lee Metford was adopted, and almost continuously for many decades afterwards. Some lessons were learned better / faster than others. The mighty L42A1 is a standout example of pushing the envelope. Unless it also has a fat chamber, NO rifle like to chamber "oversized" ammo. You are correct about a fired rifle / out of ammo rifle being just an expensive club, though; a n inescapable reality since the days of the first matchlocks. See "Ball-Butt Dag" for reference. My first "proper" hunting rifle was a Springfield 03A3 that had been re-barreled to .25-06 and nicely bedded in a Fajen Monte Carlo stock. Nice piece of kit; it had a few outings at "Sporter-Class" bench-rest matches, so it was no slouch in the accuracy / precision department. Just expensive to fuel with the appropriate ultra-slow propellants (H4831 and Nobel's "0") that were hard to find in Australia in the mid 1970s. Sold it after a few years as it was no better in the field , game-wise" than a much cheaper to feed .308 Win or the old warhorse, .303.
@pweter351
2 жыл бұрын
Pity didn't get 10 round mag great sights though.....
@zdaaaaar
2 жыл бұрын
I spend 5 years studying gunsmithing in Uherský broad at CZ school, part of the CZ factory. I don't do it for life but I know at least something. And it is such a nice change to hear someone who knows about guns talk in such simple and understandable way opposed to some dude reading a script he knows nothing about. Hats off mister
@mortisCZ
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Honza. This is truly nice series.:-)
@redtobertshateshandles
2 жыл бұрын
Lucky bastard.
@keithmoore5306
2 жыл бұрын
Mausers were made both ways Johnathon cock on open and close! it depended on who ordered them and what they wanted! as for ammo the Brits should have just went 7mm Mauser and been done with it!!
@grahamthebaronhesketh.
2 жыл бұрын
I never understood why they never put a bipod on a Lee Enfield?
@robinwhitebeam4386
11 күн бұрын
Metallurgy in the UK was trying to formulate a better steel for heat and wear resistance before WW1 and tried using chromium in the many experiments. Stainless steel was invented during these experiments and gave a big boost to many manufacturing cities , including Sheffield.
@hunttomuchwolfe
Жыл бұрын
I have a few of them and even built my custom hunting rifle in 7mm/06 and it's accurate and deadly and probably the best action to build on if you find one already sportered
@mickymondo7463
2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan could we have some close up of the different rifles and some disassembly please, so we can see how the various iterations have the small differences betweens them
@danialyousaf6456
2 жыл бұрын
The real answer is when it gets shit faced at oktoberfest.
@badpossum440
2 жыл бұрын
The Australians didn't like the P14, regarding it as too clumsy, compared to the SMLE, & so stuck with the SMLE up to & past the Korean war. They did use the P14 as a sniper rifle during the 2 nd war.
@vaclavholek4497
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree, that the M1917 was the best rifle of the First World War. I love the controlled round feed of Mausers, but also love cock-on-close (I agree with Johnathan, they are faster), and the M1917 combined both of those features, with a thoroughly modern (for the time) cartridge.
@jheasley2
2 жыл бұрын
Hard to argue. While I love my 1903 Springfield, my 1917 is still more accurate and much more ergonomic making it great at the range. It’s heavier for sure, but not terribly so and the sights are a huge improvement over the 1903. Nothing beats my Jungle Carbine for pure fun though 😅
@abitofapickle6255
2 жыл бұрын
You and Ian From Inrange TV are an absolute gem. Not only are you showing how awesome weapons are, you are showing those who are new to firearms, that they are not what they seem. Especially the gamer community.
@HircineDaWolf
2 жыл бұрын
Ian is from Forgotten Weapons, he has his own channel you know. InRange is by his buddy Karl and he appears on it.
@agermangoose4797
2 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons -> GameSpot -> and now I finally reached home, the royal armouries. I really hope this COVID shitshow dies down already so I can finally visit Leeds
@mikecazaly6424
2 жыл бұрын
This series really is so good, history and mechanical engineering explained in an easily understood way by someone both expert and enthusiastic.
@sahrazad8213
2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't youtube promote this series? I think you could easily tap into and share audiences with channels like Forgotten Weapons and C&Rsenal. Probably because of the videogame stuff, but that's probably how I found the channel, so not such a bad thing
@Idahoguy10157
2 жыл бұрын
Both the American and British armies in response to recent wars supersized the 7x57 up to thirty caliber. Too the American .30/06 and the 7mm British cartridge (not adopted).
@weijingburr2392
2 жыл бұрын
When it's fired by a German? When is Chicken fried steak, Schnitzel? Who is that little guy inside of you who says "Hey! I'm Hungry"
@flyboymike111357
2 жыл бұрын
I'm very curious about those black rifles off to your left shoulder. They look like something AR-18 related that was trialed by the Aussies before they selected the AUG. But they don't look exactly like what I think they are.
@julianshepherd2038
2 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke about the royal family being Saxe Coburg-Goethes?
@jaswmclark
2 жыл бұрын
No it is not. That was Queen Victoria's husbands name and even royalty used the Father's family name, King George V changed the family name to "Windsor" in 1917 during chapter one of the 20th centuries' world wars.
@stijnvandamme76
2 жыл бұрын
oooh i'de love one of those , love mauser actions.. my springer a3 was a kick as gun, got it out to the bull at 900 yds at Stickledown by aiming over(sigh only does 800yds)
@joearnold6881
Жыл бұрын
The best games, often things from Eastern Europe, modeled bullet trajectory rather than being hitscan. (Bonus points for the ones that modeled specific armor and penetration, real nerd stuff! Combat Mission and the like)
@andrewince8824
2 жыл бұрын
Cock-on-close has the advantage largely from spreading load. Opening the action, the only extra resistance is from the obturated case. Closing the action, the bolt can accelerate before meeting that spring offering the operator that advantage of momentum. Think of it like riding a bike up a small hill, if you ride into the hill fast you'll roll up a fair amount before you need to pedal hard, go in slow and it's a struggle all the way. Cock-on-close is also easier to make. A simple seer, striker and a spring is all one needs, if anything it's maybe the more logical design. What is there to go wrong?
@NuBeKiNg34
2 жыл бұрын
I dont know if you guys already have a video on it, or if it has been showcased in a GameSpot video or something like that, but would you guys have a De Lisle Carbine in the collection? I'd love to come and visit you guys, but alas, im on the wrong side of the Pond.
@jamesgrcevich6277
2 жыл бұрын
I own a P14 and a lee Enfield no4 mark 2. Both are awesome but would love a SMLE. The 14 is a but heavy but do find it is a but more accurate.
@jordanhooper1527
2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the 10 rounds over 5 was a huge bonus, so I've always wondered why they didn't try and keep that feature.
@jackwardley3626
9 ай бұрын
its because the 10 rounds wasn't a huge advantage after your first reload with stripper clips. The swiss ruben rifle held 12 rounds in 6 round stripper clips and they came to the conclusion it wasn't really a advantage. The U.S. developed this experimental bolt action that held 25 rounds in 5 round strippers and chucked it fairly quickly after testing.
@0Asterite0
Жыл бұрын
Ironically the 93-95 mauser is cock on close, when the US copied it they went to cock on open. Then i guess when the british copied the 03, they turned it back to cock on close.
@23GreyFox
2 жыл бұрын
They should have made a shorter P13 or P14 in 7mm Mauser with a 10 round magazine. In my eyes 7mm Mauser was the best cartridge of the time.
@enscroggs
2 жыл бұрын
M1917 Enfield -- Anglo-American with a German accent, a pretty good recipe for excellence.
@Idahoguy10157
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame the UK and the Americans didn’t adopt the 7x57 Mauser as their own military cartridges. If they had an updated version of the cartridges may still be their standard cartridges.
@Brawler_1337
2 жыл бұрын
When is an Enfield a Mauser? Broke: When it uses two locking lugs. Woke: When it’s hitscan.
@Idahoguy10157
2 жыл бұрын
Machine Guns were expensive. Volley fire only required trained rifleman. A professional army is well trained in volley fire. A huge army made up of volunteers and draftees is not as well trained in volley fire. Add to that the mass production of machine guns dropped the cost per unit of machine guns from hideously expensive too not as expensive.
@jonathanallen2015
2 жыл бұрын
Well Jonathan Ferguson in the Call Of Duty Vanguard video you did with the players custom weapons there is the wire stock that you had for the sten in the game
@T30-z5w
2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. I’ve owned both the P17 and the M1903A3 back when they were cheap. Both kick like a mule with that steel buttplate and powerful 30-06 round. I really like the Enfield No 4 Mark 1 the best of all early to mid-century military bolt guns. I still have that one of those.
@Idahoguy10157
2 жыл бұрын
Britain’s cordite propellant with the proposed 7mm cartridge for the P13 caused the pressure and heat issues
@puppetguy8726
Жыл бұрын
I thought this would be about the Turkish Mauser-Enfield frankengun. Would be nice to see a video of that in the future if you have one 😀
@joshawageorge2122
Жыл бұрын
The saam rifle was a better platform for iron sights .in my opinion a superior design over all of the newer variations the sights were on the barrel now if they put that barrel on a no 4 mk1 they would end up with the best receiver and barrel combo that could have a scope mounted as well even better if it was stainless steel
@leggo0116
2 жыл бұрын
These guns must be fired by folks with webbed fingers. "It's all getting a bit incestuous here" 7:34
@jaswmclark
2 жыл бұрын
In the late 1950s my father "sportified" a .303 pattern 14, and a .30'06 Pattern 17, both made by Winchester. I preferred the pattern 14 and used it for many years. It accounted for many feeds of venison.
@alpearson9158
2 жыл бұрын
funny, really; as I did something similar and preferred my modified 303 Mk 4 such that I still prefer it over my 30/06 but don't ask for a rationale
@slartythecyclops4643
2 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine the glorious smell (in a none perv way ) of your filming location. Great vid there.
@wom_Bat
2 жыл бұрын
All vids should have johnathin in white gloves. He's like a game cube boss!! 🎮
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