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@tomasbedoya2901
Жыл бұрын
Wadi talking about iceclimbers completely changed his persona. He went from the funny dumb guy to a formal college professor
@joshdimaggio5764
Жыл бұрын
I mean, he is a professional for a reason, there had to be some sense of seriousness somewhere lmao
@imESAM
Жыл бұрын
DISCLAIMER: I DON'T BELIEVE PIKACHU HAS WORSE COMBO GAME THAN ROB I JUST NEEDED TO WIN THE GAME OKAY
@thedaychr
Жыл бұрын
It's another metagame
@buff00n3ry
Жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOOOO
@westoth7734
Жыл бұрын
This guy, youre grimey but I respect that you argued yourself a win
@FaraazQmehrTheLastHope
3 ай бұрын
Nah, we knew what you meant. You're just spreading Porpaganda
@extasse99
Жыл бұрын
I really like how Esam and Wadi kept complimenting Marss on how cool his zss is. Ngl his zss is amazing
@TheAxelGunn
Жыл бұрын
Daaaaamn, can't believe ROB won the combo one over pikachu and icies. Esam stole that one lmao
@Bj-vd2tp
Жыл бұрын
Well, it depends on what exactly they were arguing imo. Character most reliant on combos? Definitely icies/pika. Easiest/most effective combos? R.O.B
@kyurei4478
Жыл бұрын
Depends what they mean by "best" combos.
@vick7868
Жыл бұрын
@@kyurei4478 honestly the answer should he objectively Kazuya. Icies are close but they're dependent on you having both Climbers. Kazuya has death combos at any percent off like 4 different moves.
@gunslinger9786
Жыл бұрын
@@vick7868 they didn't have Kazuya, did you even watch the video lol
@vick7868
Жыл бұрын
@@gunslinger9786 I was scrolling the comments while watching
@4valongaming388
Жыл бұрын
honestly Ics should win the combo round. Pretty much 99% kills you see from them are from crazy combos that are true and the funniest thing is that you can be rewarded for getting hit cause you can get a hit from the second ic and start a desync combo like that. Rob at least has to find an opening for combo, ics just get those sometimes randomly and on different ocasions and can kill you or at least do major damage to have their kill combos ready for later.
@Bj-vd2tp
Жыл бұрын
Rob gets a combo out of literally every move + all of it is pretty safe/covers a wide space. Icies have to somewhat commit.
@springsmartson7669
Жыл бұрын
@@Bj-vd2tp I don't know, I mean, even though robs combos are objectively better, he has less combo options, whether icies have more different combos. Who but WaDi can tell you rob can live off neutral alone while icies MUST have an insane combo game to win consistently.
@dougpouncey
Жыл бұрын
I agree. As someone who has to regularly fight an ICs main, they literally only have their combos. If they couldn’t desync, they would be a bottom 5 character
@staticchimera44
Жыл бұрын
@@springsmartson7669 But the question isn't "which one relies on their combos the most", it's "which one has the BEST combos". Many top tiers are good enough that they don't NEED their combos, but they still have better combo games than many low tiers.
@CaptainDCap
Жыл бұрын
Not only would ICs be gutter trash without their combo game...they are still pretty terrible WITH their combo game. Simply put: If their combo game were better than R.O.B.'s, you'd see them winning tournaments. R.O.B. wins, FREE.
@Swoop-dc3xg
Жыл бұрын
Esam is the master of being ratioed, like there was an entire challenge based on how bad his takes are
@thewalnut4017
Жыл бұрын
They really aren't that bad
@Bj-vd2tp
Жыл бұрын
Entire challenge based on how confusing his takes out of context are. Even marss agreed almost every time after the character got revealed.
@totodile9923
Жыл бұрын
that quiz was so funny
@J.Blazer
Жыл бұрын
"two truths and a lie"
@baptisteruellan1204
Жыл бұрын
Please bring back that quizz it was hilarous
@cloggedcord4612
Жыл бұрын
ESAM has argued for years that pikachu is the best character in the game because of combo potential and robbed Marss anyway
@kiwifluorite
Жыл бұрын
WaDi starting to sound like Esam with the ice climbers explanation
@Iso_SSB
Жыл бұрын
Esam saying Kirby then WaDi saying shut yo ass up, got me laughing so much 😂
@TehWhiteTiger
Жыл бұрын
Esam convincing them Rob out combos Pika was his real win here.
@theillusionist1494
Жыл бұрын
Esam saying the Kirby games are lame is my Joker arc
@jakebleyenberg8822
Жыл бұрын
I mean, they aren't exciting really, but they are really fun and cute :)
@ellachino4799
Жыл бұрын
they're like the animal crossing of platformers
@muzuchama
Жыл бұрын
@@ellachino4799 except the newest mainline kirby game was actually good
@doublestarships646
Жыл бұрын
Super turn your brain off series of games. They're fun and cute but that's it.
@Daniel-uy1sv
Жыл бұрын
@@muzuchama Nah it was more of the same, loved it when it came out but in retrospect it's really nothing amazing
@gorelock4527
Жыл бұрын
Can't believe I just heard that Pikachu has a worse combo game than Rob.
@Latias38
Жыл бұрын
The argument is solid though, and is a good reason why there are so many high level Robs compared to like 2 Pikas
@gorelock4527
Жыл бұрын
I guess though, but when I think of Rob I think more about his insane neutral then combo game.
@Bj-vd2tp
Жыл бұрын
@@gorelock4527 pika is 100% more reliant on combos. The prompt was "character with the best combo game" though and there is nothing better than 0->deaths AND big damage while doing so, so R.O.B is a valid choice
@davidc.
5 ай бұрын
@@Bj-vd2tp ROB 0 to deaths aren't consistently hit if you are fighting a competent opponent.
@THXKXNG
Жыл бұрын
Y’all 3 should do a podcast, I’d watch & listen.
@ApronStudios
Жыл бұрын
Bro this podcast would go crazy
@pjweaver8496
Жыл бұрын
100%
@kyurei4478
Жыл бұрын
Pandas argue. I can see it.
@camo658
Жыл бұрын
poscasts are so boring bro dont make them waste there precious time on talking abt there boring shit just let them challenge each other in random creative fun mini games to be competitive in
@3doler411
Жыл бұрын
@@camo658 damn bro did a podcast steal your girl or somethin
@kylesantos5536
Жыл бұрын
Pika has a more complex combo tree. I feel like that should’ve been enough to answer the question
@zeospark9715
Жыл бұрын
Didn't Sakurai said that he intended for Sora to be a quick and easy to pick up character since he came at the very end of the releases?
@4valongaming388
Жыл бұрын
and at low level he really is. I think he's fairly easy on mid level too. Just high / top level are different with a lot of characters and Sora is one of those.
@mex6881
Жыл бұрын
He said easy to use. Hard to master
@ZHL242
Жыл бұрын
More of this superlative game please, it's both hilarious with people like Coney and Marss arguing why Min Min sucks at driving worse than Lucina but also super insightful with Wadi and Esam debating ROB's vs Pika's combo game
@xenocheddar2953
Жыл бұрын
ESAM saying kirby games are lame makes me wanna go to the gym, get fit and prove him wrong.
@maxlauer7013
Жыл бұрын
Richter down-airing a pikmin makes him the coolest character in the game I will not take criticism
@lastnamefirstname8655
Жыл бұрын
thanks for more of these three together, panda.
@Ezratheampwave
Жыл бұрын
As a sephiroth main I’m glad you acknowledge him as hard because honestly I feel like I always have to outplay around my opponents and when sephiroth I feel like none of my wins are “free” thank you Esam for speaking my language lol
@Dancing-Spirits
Жыл бұрын
Weird how esam just doesn't look towards WaDi, especially when he's explaining things
@eagletime92
Жыл бұрын
These superlative videos are always entertaining. To vote on that last topic- I’d probably go Pika, since both Icies and ROB have the asterisks of needing Nana and Gyro for their combo games to be untapped.
@migundiii1920
6 ай бұрын
Pretty crazy how hard panda threw. Had a good thing going
@donfabi13
Жыл бұрын
This videos are always so entertaining
@BigNoseEntmt
Жыл бұрын
OH COME ON Bowser is the definition of cool outside of Smash!
@hunbi1875
Жыл бұрын
8:04 Yeah villagers recovery is soooo amazing definitely not bad. It goes far so its good.
@lunchbagSSBU
Жыл бұрын
esam got some incredibly hot takes bruh, like marss and wadi were scratching their heads afterwards. even wadi was all like "what?!" at some of em
@stormRed
Жыл бұрын
"She's got birds for parents!" You got a point.
@PoyoDreamer
Жыл бұрын
2:11 "Largest sword of them all" Kirby: Am I a joke to you?
@shion6218
Жыл бұрын
This is undoubtedly the power trio of panda smash for me
@goldy9428
Жыл бұрын
"Kirby games are lame" Is the biggest lie i've Heard in a long time
@djricecooker
Жыл бұрын
Marss: cloud has the biggest sword of them all Kirby’s ultra sword
@quantumgargoyle3888
Жыл бұрын
I love wadi so much man he’s so naturally funny
@vfvet1990
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more videos like this. It was really entertaining and interesting to see the top players’ opinions on opinion based prompts
@stormRed
Жыл бұрын
I think a rule that could make this game even more fun, is if you got a point for ever card you put down, that way it discourages using your best one first and winning instantly (which they're not doing for the sake of fun of course, but that would be the optimal strategy)
@SeaOfPixels
Жыл бұрын
Marss throwing at the end lmao, if he'd agreed with Wadi it would've gone to differential but he just gave Esam the win.
@samurottboi369
Жыл бұрын
Esam, you don't need that crap on your face anymore
@perfectegg
Жыл бұрын
I fucking love Wadi lol his expressions 😂
@am-vw2qk
Жыл бұрын
bro esam should become a lawyer
@Orien2
Жыл бұрын
Wadi trying to justify Bowser being hype is golden😂
@Takkunaso
Жыл бұрын
4:46 REMIX!!! 😂😂😂
@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome
Жыл бұрын
Esam wearing a kn95 is very on brand. Also respect for being safe.
@cydra671
Жыл бұрын
Wadi at 14:27 mocking ESAM is so funny 😂
@sydneywest1623
Жыл бұрын
Marss’ winner mentality showing after he lost that second round. Homie does not like L’s
@Malky36t
Жыл бұрын
9:18 PREACH MARSS PREACH
@trystyn9256
Жыл бұрын
This is the best panda series please do more!
@theofmino6180
Жыл бұрын
At the level I play, which is very low, Pika combos are way more common than ROB combos, so I agree with Marss on the last one
@Mepphy99
Жыл бұрын
a simple game turned to be a "which player Is less carried" and that's funny
@yuilei8877
Жыл бұрын
My favorite series is back :D
@craigmoon2121
Жыл бұрын
Ngl I think both Pika and Icies are better answers than R.O.B.
@Contrary22
Жыл бұрын
I'd say the Combo Game of Fox vs Falcon probably balances out to be even. Like Fox does more damage but Falcon has far more kill moves and kills much earlier than Fox. So they average out to about the same.
@asunerdy5126
Жыл бұрын
how on earth did esam win that last one? Pika is nothing without combos, and kill confirms and the same is true for icy climbers but to an even crazier degree. At the end of the day rob still has insane neutral, and his combos while being able to kill you are significantly harder to pull off all of them than just getting free percent with Pika, then with ice climbers their combos are way harder but are just insta kills every time if performed correctly. ROB is just kind of the in between of both sides of the coin when there are two extremes that somehow lost to him.
@H1_R3Z
Жыл бұрын
The issue is the wording of the question. "Best combo game" left so much room for interpretation that Esam just kinda decided that consistency trumps all and debated from that standpoint, while the other two didn't have a clear direction they were going for with their explanations. Literally got gaslighted into "admitting" R.O.B. has better combos than possibly the two coolest and most combo oriented characters in the game.
@Bj-vd2tp
Жыл бұрын
? Rob combos both kill at 0 and/or rack up big damage. Not quite sure why pika combos are "better/easier" at getting free percent. They even talked about pika combos being DI reliant and dropping a combo (which is pretty easy) will only deal 25% or smth. while rob deals double the stuff with just up airs. They argued about best/most effective combos not "character most reliant on their combos".
@massgunner4152
Жыл бұрын
This format always suffers from not having a neuteal party, the way it's presented you only one person to agree with you and Wadi will obviously will give the point to ROB.
@andrewww13
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think pika and ice climbers were both better options than rob
@Slip-
Жыл бұрын
i think corrin is pretty cool. At lest they have kind of long combos and tones of good ways to things call out. Their neutral can just be "lol sword", but the advantage state has a lot of cool stuff
@Tee_Wilson
Жыл бұрын
Shadic is the coolest Corrin to watch imo
@tuntarallCotA
Жыл бұрын
Wadi and Marss looks so disoriented in the intro haha
@JennyBunny0714
Жыл бұрын
holy shit i could listen to wadi talk about anything the way he started to talk about icies for probably hours
@drunkgerbil9962
Жыл бұрын
Marss got robbed on Pika.
@cabbages982
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I think Icies has a better case of beating Pikas combo game than Rob does
@Tomato_egg_sugar
Жыл бұрын
What meme is Marss talking about at 1:49?
@DMMegsie
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, they should do this in teams and attempt to sway a judge.
@Xearrik
Жыл бұрын
5:13 I'm sorry but Sephiroth hair Kirby is as cool as it gets!
@armaanlatheef7897
Жыл бұрын
I feel like a good way of viewing the combo game round is by viewing as if all they had is combos, would they be good, or do they have a game plan that’s not combos. Based on that, I think it’s obv ice climbers
@NZsaltz
Жыл бұрын
That wasn't the question though
@spongyoshi
2 ай бұрын
Someone just learned about the Looney Tunes: Space Race soundtrack it feels like xD
@dumbchicken3340
Жыл бұрын
Cloud is as cool as cool gets.
@notoriousthief
Жыл бұрын
Wadi got the short end of the stick with his options
@MrNostalgic23
Жыл бұрын
4:40 I feel attacked 😂
@loshtrimpo8781
Жыл бұрын
Take away every combo from Ice Climbers and from ROB. Which character's gameplay changes the most?
@davidc.
Жыл бұрын
Same with pika. Rob is without a doubt the least reliant on combos out of those 3. I mean most top robs don't do his best combos and still win
@legionssb
Жыл бұрын
11:34 my man ESAM forgot dash attack isn't safe on shield and is bad in neutral lol.
@ThePurpleCheeseMan
Жыл бұрын
I get that they're looking at this from the perspective of competitive play, but people who beat Kirby planet robobot know how cool he was during the finale of that game. But his general appeal is cute over cool, so I don't blame them for not thinking that.
@erikpastras
Жыл бұрын
Esam here tryharding his life to win the rob combo game debate
@Meichrob7
Жыл бұрын
To make the rules actually encourage the type of gameplay that the content creators are seemingly suggested to lean towards, there needs to be an incentive for keeping a round going on as long as possible. That encourages people to just play the next best character they have and not just slam down their absolute best option. A basic way would be to make it so when the round ends the winner gets a point for every character played or every “rotation” of everyone playing a character.
@matthew8439
Жыл бұрын
Marss got robbed, no pun intended 😅
@SeaOfPixels
Жыл бұрын
No lol, he threw he didn't get robbed.
@gert1247
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this week’s debate hour
@rasaunwashington9623
Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that ROB won the combos round when Fox was previously mentioned…
@OranguBANG
Жыл бұрын
Is esam sick? What's with the mask in a room with just a few others in end 2022
@HaruHoneybun
Жыл бұрын
Because Covid is still around and it's coming into flu season.... sooo generally if you're out and about, having a mask on is an easy to apply form of protection that will have some effect. Better question: Why... do... you... care? Guy wants to wear a mask, so what? Doubt you were asking why other foreign countries were wearing masks before the politicization of covid and masking mandates, but... that's over and... you still got shit to say? ESAM living rent free ya'll heads and it isn't even close.
@DekarsBlade
Жыл бұрын
Was wondering the same thing.
@dougpouncey
Жыл бұрын
I half-expected WaDi to pull out Kazuya for the combo round
@robsquare2622
Жыл бұрын
This is the biggest exercise that you literally can just crap out character propaganda
@WarrenValion
Жыл бұрын
Kazuya being cooler than Cloud is an insane take
@tonnenpanda
Жыл бұрын
Gameplay-wise? I don't think so.
@WarrenValion
Жыл бұрын
Who said it was just gameplay-wise? And even if it was, I'd still hard disagree.@@tonnenpanda
@zeospark9715
Жыл бұрын
Nah Cloud is way cooler and this is coming from someone that does main Kazuya. Like the Tekkin series is cool but the thing is, I always preferred the looks in Street Fighter and Ryu and Ken just has a better appeal to me than Kazuya appearance and personality wise. I even like Terry more and I've only watched gameplay of Fatal Fury games (and watched some of the anime)
@Spyder-Marth
Жыл бұрын
Cloud > Kazuya
@tomasribbeck
Жыл бұрын
OK I wanna speak up for PT. Not that I want to say that she is the hardest to play, but she is not as easy to play as everyone wants to say. Like yeah, PT is brain dead, with every pkmn you got your moves that your going to spam because they are good, but usually because the rest are not good. You spam Bair o fair with ivy because, are you gonna use ftilt? Dtilt? No. Are you gonna spam neutral b, up smash, up tilt? No, upair (and because it's still like the best up air). Also, because of that every pkmn by its owns has limited tools, so even if they are good by their own, you can exploit those weakness, and generally PT has slow moves, even if they don't look as. All of ivy moves are really good because they last a long time, but that also gives you more time to punish. Zard is slow, no wonders here. Squirtle I would say it's actually not as fast as people think. He's kind of floaty so good combos with squirtle are harder to do than with other fast spaced character, and shielding squirtle aerials that are a big part of his neutral you will mostly be fine. What k want to say is, that PT is more brain dead than easy, because you can do the same every time and be good with that, but to actually do good, you have to work with the same stuff every time, but at least those tools are good to work by their own, and you can still try different game plans with the same character, and switching character archetype
@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC
Жыл бұрын
At least Belmont has sauce. Corrin has up air..
@bibbyboxx2219
Жыл бұрын
Naitosharp and Shoe have hype ZSS plays
@gustafwalker6964
Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point it out as feedback that I noticed in the video: When Wadi and Mars were a bit louder when debating their cases, I heard a bit of echo off the walls. Minor nitpick but it was something I noticed! Otherwise love the videos you all make, and I can’t wait to see the next one!
@TopOfAllWorlds
Жыл бұрын
What was that castlevania meme marss was talking about
@camo658
Жыл бұрын
2:10 you jumped it up so high
@cmattss4
Жыл бұрын
Marss let Esam change the subject. He shouldn’t have let him make it about who’s combos were easier, even Esam didn’t think ROB’s was better.
@SuperNobody64
Жыл бұрын
Pacman has the best combos in the game
@vinnysharkman
Жыл бұрын
normally me and ESAM are beefing but he’s been in the clear for about 2 months
@gustavmahler3228
Жыл бұрын
marss said zss is not hard bruh
@legionssb
Жыл бұрын
Don't gaslight me into thinking my character is easy marss, you'll destroy my sense of self worth
@Inksploded
Жыл бұрын
17:45 YEA NO ICECLIMBERS kills so much more off combos then R.O.B
@Inksploded
Жыл бұрын
Esam is so rigged
@Bj-vd2tp
Жыл бұрын
Being reliant on combos does not mean your combo game is better.
@brehella770
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t think ROB should have won the argument over which character has the best combo game. The Pandas are undoubtably more skillful and knowledgeable than me, but frankly if you ask why Pikachu is top tier, it’s mostly because of his combos. Are they hard? Yes. But combos are what makes Pikachu a threat. “Best combo game” isn’t limited to which character has the best kill confirms or easiest combos, it’s looking at the character’s combos at the highest level possible. Rob’s combos are good, but to me a good “combo game” is literally having combos that last so long that you can’t even play the game and you’re constantly in the blender. That’s what Pikachu likes to do. I can also see an argument for Ice Climbers because they’re probably in the top 3 for best combos, but against a good player landing them is a very different story. Personally I think the automatic winners of the final round would have been Kazuya or Steve, they can literally do whatever they want and get insane percent or a kill depending on the skill level and scenario. The final argument was much more interesting seeing as none of them had those two, but I don’t see a world where ROB wins the title of “best combo game.” They didn’t even directly mention his zero-to-death.
@timandersson2017
Жыл бұрын
Why is ESAM wearing a mask?
@nonplayercharacter12333
Жыл бұрын
I just heard Marss unironically complement ZSS and I am very confused.
@boogers946
Жыл бұрын
Esam even admitted he knew he disagreed with his argument from the beginning lmao he won with a white flag up from the get go.
@spydar05
Жыл бұрын
Super casual in this game: They named two of my favorite characters back to back as the least cool characters... At least they didn't say R.O.B. or Pokemon Trainer.
@parky8391
Жыл бұрын
Pika should’ve won combo round especially against rob. Rob has stray hits that kill at like 80 and a spike that can kill at like 20 at ledge, he doesn’t need combos. I mean wadi is a good example of this, he gets like 4 hit combos then just hits a side b randomly offstage and he’s one of the best robs lol. But you get hit by one pika bair and you know you gonna be waiting for 20 minutes to get out.
@braylenswain4017
Жыл бұрын
As a Greninja and PT main: PT is SUPER easy and Greninja is easy if you know that dash attack and down tilt don't always carry
@star14604
Жыл бұрын
Bro I hate panda, I always have work to do and then they put out another video and it is always amazing so I watch it over doing my work😅
@sertraline_hcl
Жыл бұрын
esam saying "even the kirby games are lame" is how you know this dude is malding edit: seeing his cards he def would have lost but bro kirby superstar goes DUMMY
@peregrinehawk8363
Жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree with Esam saying the character with a flaming chainsaw as a weapon is boring
@daltonrisavy9481
Жыл бұрын
Pikachu is the better combo character and the fact that rob won over pikachu is actually insane
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