Absolutely invaluable resource for anyone looking to get a catamaran. You guys really knocked this series out of the park! Thanks for sharing
@g0lanu
4 жыл бұрын
Yep.... it's a great resource in many ways, love the joint effort between community and content creators, it resulted in a great list, interesting feedback on the go, some good tips on what to look out if you're interested in the ships in the list. It's not the kind of things you expect from the "top X" types of videos.
@kdzidoc
5 жыл бұрын
Xquisite X50? I'm looking forward to owning a used one in about 5-7 years. ;-)
@christhunell1114
5 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews. I see a playlist for the top 10. Do you have a list of all that you reviewed. I'm not seeing the Lagoon 45 so i'm curious if it hasn't been reviewed or was reviewed and just didn't do well. Thanks again for putting this together for us!!
@renatoardigo5829
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and congratulations you are really balanced in your judgments and I consider them extremely useful. I would very much like to hear your opinion on Garcia's Explocat 52 Cat. I think the use of aluminum is extremely valuable on hulls over 50 feet. Living on the ocean it is very difficult to have major repairs done without resorting to an emergency team. Aluminum offers important qualities of resistance and repairability as well as offering significant performance qualities for those who live by exploring the world of water
@kenneysseeamerica5750
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recap of your reviews and all of the contributed scores. Very good and helpful information. Can’t wait to see more.
@bc4yt
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for taking us on this journey with you - great information and practical opinions!
@richardhague9460
5 жыл бұрын
I hope that future adjudications will include the Aquila 44 & 48. Good episode!
@itzanopinion
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video folks! Love the presentation and the fact that you used "our scores" vs your own! In regards to seeing/reviewing upcoming boats, I'm almost certain that The Antares will probably fall between the Lagoon & Nautitech, while the Xqusite X5 will give the Outremer & Seawind a run for their money... Can't wait for the updated version of this video to come out some months from now! :-)
@crikycrocky
4 жыл бұрын
This series has been excellent, many thanks for the work you both put in. Looks to me like some manufacturers could spend a bit more time actually sailing their boats?
@lancedaniels
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting and sharing. Very interesting to get to see the catamarans.
@RickSherman007
5 жыл бұрын
Review the Balance 526 it is the best of both worlds in my option
@movieklump
4 жыл бұрын
This ranking is for well off people or dreamers who will never leave the shore. A second hand Seawind 1250 is my goal and that is extravagant.
@sailingrubyrose
4 жыл бұрын
We have the review of the 1260 out soon mate. Watch this space
@jeffkovacs6521
5 жыл бұрын
Another great video guys... really enjoying this series a lot. Looking forward to the rest of your reviews - and your return to the States!
@kathleengregg9700
5 жыл бұрын
Have really enjoyed this series! Thank you for doing the homework for the rest of us!
@andrewfilipowicz6208
5 жыл бұрын
Great review, very useful. Looking forward to the next installment
@2212db
5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more reviews, and to see if public opinion sways your personal views. Good work, keep it up.
@denniscollins2032
5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a grid of basic boat statistics on your review. Sleeps how many, cost of boat shown, base price, engine speed, make and range, real speed on cruising average conditions. How far she sets in the water, lightning protection (which much more work needs to be done on all boats)etc I can freeze frame on and review.
@eljefe1153
4 жыл бұрын
Missing Seawind 1260 and Maverick 440. Thanks for the video.
@pnwesty7174
5 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to seeing a Seawind ad in a sailing rag with a "Ranked Top Catamaran by Ruby Rose" banner.
@stephenj9563
5 жыл бұрын
Let's see how the 1260 stacks up. Maybe they can order one and get the bonus KZitem vloggers upgrade to the 1600!
@steware
5 жыл бұрын
Riiiight!! A worthy study for sure.
@mikehartmann5187
5 жыл бұрын
I think you’ve done a very fine job with these review vids. I like your approach better than Cruising Off Duty’s approach to cat reviews, not that they’re bad - they’re not -, just yours are better IMHO. Well done!
@itzanopinion
5 жыл бұрын
Just curious as to know "how" these review videos are better? is it better video editing? Is it better "common sense approach to livability?"...Is it because they cover more topics in their videos than those by *Cruising Off Duty*?
@LearningtheLines
5 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I'm super excited to check out some Seawinds in Annapolis. I'd love to see you guys do a review of the Aventura 44.
@billdillard885
5 жыл бұрын
Still a Motor Head but this was an excellent series... followed it all the way through. 👍😎👍
@ferociousfil5747
5 жыл бұрын
Great review looking forward to xquisite review as that is my favourite catamaran
@antoniogomes4541
5 жыл бұрын
You should compare the vessels within a certain price range say 500k to 800k. Comparing a 500k cat to a 1,8 million cat is not a good comparison. Great videos and good work. Put a Sunreef cat on you list.
@HappyGoLondons
5 жыл бұрын
Something that would be good to add (not as its own category just a part of an existing one) would be to talk about accessibility! Some have easy access with removable panels and velcro ceilings and such so you can get to your wiring and AC (and things), while other boat models you have to cut your way in if there is a problem. I am still very new to looking at boats - we have awhile before we are really in the market but this is something I find important. It would be nice to not have to cut my way in if there was an electrical issue. =] Loving this series and really looking forward to seeing more boats!
@RexWaldron
5 жыл бұрын
Ok I know zero about sailing, but love your channel and have watched this catamaran series with great interest. I felt the Seawind was the best suited to you guys overall so pleased to see that it came out on top! Could say it was the "Princess Royal" of the bunch (Nick will have to get his melodeon out) :)
@robertadamsmetaldetecting6324
5 жыл бұрын
Great reviews guys! I think you already ordered your Outremere and just are not telling us. Lmao.
@sailingrubyrose
5 жыл бұрын
🤣 waaaay outside our budget!
@cryptosquirrel7611
5 жыл бұрын
This has been very informative and enjoyable review of these cats. Appreciate the time and effort. Will you be looking at Sunreef cats in the next group?
@leannep6019
4 жыл бұрын
Great overview. It would be good to see the same exercise done on second hand versions of these boats or their predecessors. That really does inform us on build quality and usability of the design features and actual performance. Many of us will be buying second hand and that also talks to availability of second hand and their retention of value.
@2squiffy
5 жыл бұрын
Very well done you could do this for a living. Still think the 510 pips them all but then we are bias. Andrew and Traci.
@whitewaterplayboating
5 жыл бұрын
Love that SeaWind 1600!! Looking forward to hopefully running into you at the Annapolis Boat show!
@marceloblmartins
5 жыл бұрын
Great job guys!! I´m doing some research on cruising cats and this series is far better than anything I watched. I´m really think I will put space before performance, but it´s always nice to travel faster... Are you going to review any Sunreef?? I´m really curious how would it do against the Lagoon. Thanks
@WhatAboutTheBee
5 жыл бұрын
Have you considered an F50? Not much on accommodations or finishes, but 50 knots downwind, 27 knots upwind is _sparkling performance_ . /s
@timtrinkaus7072
5 жыл бұрын
The Privilege was my favorite it’s not fast but it sure looked comfortable!
@harterbob
5 жыл бұрын
Great rundown of the reviews.
@tatef88
4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered doing a series of reviews on electric hybrid catamarans? My wife are very interested in the potential low maintenance that electric motors could provide.
@concherover
5 жыл бұрын
Love the series great job you too.. One of my fav is the maverick 440 catamaran hope ye guys do a review.. Cheers again great series.
@sailingrubyrose
5 жыл бұрын
We're looking forward to checking it out.
@vapor3074
5 жыл бұрын
We had plans for a priviledge with 4 kids and a dog to was the best choice. Unfortunately a cancer diagnosis has made our dream impossible. The take away is, dont wait around to afford your "dream boat" get out there and live your dream on a boat that's affordable now. Wish we had done that way.
@EasyOKE1
4 жыл бұрын
Gunboat 55 & Rapier 550 best one!
@garydavey8523
5 жыл бұрын
Hey N & T! This was fun to look at how you and all your viewers scored the Catamarans. Your categories are great. As an honorable mention... I would check out SV Basik at Onboard Lifestyle ! Especially because you appreciate 'fit & finish'. Teal and his family have done an amazing job! Check them out!
@music-man
5 жыл бұрын
ha! I knew it that the Seawind would be the one. After seeing you talk about it I went down to San Diego and was Kindly invited by Kurt of Denison yachts to go out on a Seawind 1260 and even though it was the smaller version I loved it and the key selling points where for me the Helm station protected with the Electric window and also the Door to the Lounge area that can be winched up to the ceiling amazing. Well I think you have done a bang up job on this review with all of your followers and wish more people would do this. So I raise my glass to you both cheers
@steware
5 жыл бұрын
Andy morris Very cool opportunity for you, I like that one
Very well done, and I'm sure I speak for many that your obvious hard work at putting these vids together is very much appreciated. They're entertaining as hell, with the added bonus of the possibility of accidentally learning something. Carry on! (-:
@kenevoy5383
4 жыл бұрын
Did they not have a bali 4.8 at the show .with 6 cabins and under a million is hard to beat and 5.4 would be my dream boat
@TheVideoBin
4 жыл бұрын
Sunreef Catamarans? Perhaps the 50?
@petermcgrory5267
4 жыл бұрын
An excellent video! Thank you very much
@pauloneil60
5 жыл бұрын
The public (And I believe you) agree with me. - Seawind is a HUGE company. I will not claim to be biased because I'm an Aussie. I have done my research. I am thinking that you are looking for a yacht that is too big for your needs. The Seawind 1260 - www.seawindcats.com/models/seawind-1260/ is 41ft. This is a Luxury yacht for a family. My choice would be the Seawind 1190. - www.seawindcats.com/models/seawind-1190-sport/ . You will weigh it down with Dive tanks/Compressor, Washing machine/Drier, Extra solar panels , Refrigerators, Family, ETC! A 52ft Catamaran says to the land living peeps : That person has FAR more money than I kneed!: A 39.5 ft performance yacht is barely worth them thinking about (They will look though, Binoculars, Telescopes, etc). When you watch the KZitemrs who are making money from doing KZitem - You will notice they avoid parking in marinas, ETC, If you require a dock that is longer than 40ft = You will be required to PAY seriously high docking fees. A yacht that is less than 40ft, However. ( Research this) is far less $. Another consideration is - After a female has had a bellyfull of arms and legs, Grandmothers and Grandfathers will come out of the woodwork, Brothers, Sisters, Cousins, Bestest Friends - ETC- Make everyone comfortable (Luxury Yacht) - But not SO luxurious that they don't LEAVE! - I hope you get what you want & I hope what you want is what makes you happy.
@VonBluesman
4 жыл бұрын
I like your video but that music sounds like Mickey Mouse getting his tail stepped on.
@philgray1023
4 жыл бұрын
I think it's Alvin and the Chipmunks.
@VonBluesman
4 жыл бұрын
Phil Gray Yes You are correct. Thank you. It drove me nuts but, my Dad used to say that is a short trip. That starting and stopping like the record is skipping makes me cringe. LOL 😂
@iCitizenTube
5 жыл бұрын
You are comparing 1m+ Cats with others cats half or a 1/3 of that price. And your range goes from 42 to 50+. Ridiculous when anyone knows that just 1ft difference is huge for a sail boat. Transposed in the car market it would be like comparing a Maserati with a Wolkswagen and a Toyota. The market proves you wrong. Which cats sells more units than any others here? L and FP. Because they offer the best value and compromise for the cat lovers. And finally why not reviewing Bali?
@PrecisionSailLoftVictoria
5 жыл бұрын
Great job analyzing so many different Catamarans! Can't wait to see the results after the boat show!
@daviddavis7855
5 жыл бұрын
Any consideration as to depreciated value, say after 5 years? Comparison could be interesting as to how they each hold their value.
@artdenning6190
4 жыл бұрын
Have you done the Majestic yet? I think they come fully equiped.
@sailingrubyrose
4 жыл бұрын
Coming soon mate
@djcruiser9816
5 жыл бұрын
I bet you two are going to love the Maverick.
@lyfandeth
5 жыл бұрын
Looks like an Outremer with a custom cockpit would be the trick. And they are clever enough to know the value of KZitem and apparently make some accommodation for that.
@dukekelloway5328
4 жыл бұрын
Apples to apples would be far more useful. The price difference of these boats as well as the massive differences in size means they are not speaking to the same buyer. This felt like a filler video that was made not to be useful as much as to use old footage to maintain a publishing schedule. Not something I would take with a grain of salt given the variables that will constrain most buyers. Now on to the video comparing the Mercedes to the Kia.
@CablebobTube
5 жыл бұрын
Will you be at Annapolis MD for the boat show? I look forward to the remaining reviews. We're huge fans of the SeaWind so far and hope to see it maintain it's spot on the list. Went out on one a couple weeks ago and it was just a phenomenal ride as well!
@sailingrubyrose
5 жыл бұрын
yes we will. what did you like about the Seawind?
@robertrubano
5 жыл бұрын
@@sailingrubyroseWe chartered the 1160 Lite recently. The entertainment area feels huge when you open that back door. The galley below with the open feel makes it so when preparing a meal you're not isolated from everyone else. Her speed in low wind was amazing, she just goes with very little effort. What we didn't like: The galley is "cramped" if someone needs to go by. It's just not wide enough to allow someone to pass by so you're moving out of the way if someone needs to come down to the berth or head on starboard.. Haven't gotten a chance to take one on larger seas but she moved a lot in the Chesapeake Bay so I fear she might toss a lot in larger seas. We're looking forward to checking out the Bali at the show, new to the scene and her layout looks amazing! Would love to meet up at the show and shake hands. Hope to see you there!
@switchmuso
4 жыл бұрын
Here's an experiment: take your scores, multiply each by a thousand (Seawind 38,000, Lagoon 31,000, Catana 31,000 etc.) then divide that by the number of thousands in the price (Seawind approx. 850, Lagoon approx. 380..-no, let's say 450 specced up, Catana approx. 1,250).. Catana 24.8 Seawind 44.7 Lagoon. 68.8 ...welcome to the real world.
@adymatt334
4 жыл бұрын
switchmuso this is a very good point. I personally think comparing a 51’ boat to a 42’ boat is ridiculous.
@Crushonius
4 жыл бұрын
It is really a shame that you didnt take bigger lagoons and leopards into consideration since the best cats are 50+ ft long and i really think you should talk to some more cat owners you focus way waaay too much on performance trust me those fast cats are nice for a weekend cruise or maybe a bit longer but for serious long time cruising they are very uncomfortable especially at those high speeds .and remember 90 percent of the time you are at anker space is king.
@Sailing71h2o
5 жыл бұрын
I think you guys have found your calling, really appreciate your series on review of Catamarans
@sailingrubyrose
5 жыл бұрын
Awww, thanks mate.
@TrimaranSpirit
5 жыл бұрын
Nice video guys well done really enjoyed it. As an experienced multihull sailor I’m not sure people that haven’t been onboard or sailed these boats on long offshore passages should be voting on them but your videos are informative and fun to watch! Many thanks 🙏
@artist1980
4 жыл бұрын
Bali 4.🌼
@shardie78239
4 жыл бұрын
What do you guys think about Sunreefs new 50?
@dreed7312
4 жыл бұрын
I think 2 million dollars for a yacht that scores no better than one half its price should disqualify it from consideration.
@ericalarsen9175
5 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the Seawind 1260 review!! She is our current top contender for our first cruising cat purchase.
@acarl100
4 жыл бұрын
Saw your tour of the Neel 47 ,,, but since you're doing other 50s where's the Neel 51 which is head and shoulders above the 47 ...
@jamielancaster01
5 жыл бұрын
A helm on the sugar scoop for me drops the over all score of a cat to ZERO! There is no perfect cat and there will be many things that you will have to compromise on when purchasing but the absolute deal killer for us is a crappy positioned helm! Thanks for the video excellent job
@ckm-mkc
5 жыл бұрын
Same with the engine access on the sugar scoop - imagine a clogged fuel filter at night in a rough sea. No thanks.
@mikeferguson2828
5 жыл бұрын
Having engine access inside the boat is the worst design I can imagine. Never in my life do I want smelly diesel and oil and heat in the living space !
@jthescruff
5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the xquisite. They look beautiful and seem to tick a lot of your boxes.
@pmnmd62
5 жыл бұрын
By far the best cat review I have seen. Thanks for all the great work on this. What a service for prospective buyers and dreamers alike!
@kennymcclymont2066
5 жыл бұрын
I see that Seawind are using your review on their website now. Time to ask for a discount or some sponsorship Nick/Terysa.. Great video. Difficult choice to make going forward. For me, my favourite was definitely the Privelege which is just stunning and so well put together. Seawind second and Outremer a little further back due to the exposed helm.
@claregross4289
5 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@TheBeggFamily
4 жыл бұрын
How much longer until you decide? There was talk of working with your final manufacturer, yet this makes it look like you haven’t got that far!?
@sailingrubyrose
4 жыл бұрын
This is an old video. We will announce as soon as we can. At the moment world events have put a hold on any announcement out of consideration for wider issues
@flu-fiorde4324
4 жыл бұрын
What about the Sunreef? That quasi 3rd hull floating in the air seems quite interesting for storms, not boxy, large interior, cover for helm etc.
@Allikattoo
5 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much about catamaran's. Of course living in New Mexico I don't know what I'll do with the knowledge but if any one asks I can say the Seawind is the best according to Ruby Rose. Haha
@gbsailing9436
5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Seawind! Huge Win for the Aussie's! Let's see how it stacks up against the rest...Thanks so much Ruby Rose for putting this comparison together ..the first of its kind on the web...surely!? Huge job...well done. Clearly, everyone out there is critically minded like the two of you - and able to appreciate the more important things in life (not just a wide birth to sleep in). I personally have appreciated your thoughts from the ocean going sailing perspective. Good to have that input when choosing a 'Bluewater' craft. Accordingly, some of the very simple criticisms of some of the more 'exemplary' top brands/ craft should shame those manufacturers that place personal safety at risk in big seas! Of course I understand that all manufacturers have to be seen to be doing something different, but at the expense of safety and practicality? One would hope not!!! Love this series. Perhaps you could continue to do it every two years, even after buying your own Cat, you could use it as the bench mark, bringing others in to context...just saying! Love your work!!! cheers...GB..
@stevesheller9223
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent reviews. Very well done. I’ll say it again. Price is soon forgotten, quality remains forever. I’ll stick with Privilege, even if it has to be a used model. Just my 2 cents. 😎
@daviso.8902
5 жыл бұрын
Dazcat could have a very good performance cruising cat
@horitulgi
5 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews guys, knowledgeable and fair. However ranking is a bit pointless when comparing boats up to x3 the price of others. Not like for like really. So many of us are planning to go cruising, want cats for the obvious reasons, but for me it will be on a fixed budget, so probably looking at a 8-10 year old boat (in 8-10 years time) so that's why I'm looking closely at boats available now as this is what I'll buy in the future. Passage making not the be all & end all for us as there will probably be 1 ARC & 1 Panama to French Polynesia in 5-6 years. 99% of use will be day sails and on the hook, so narrow cabins and performance not on my list. Comfort, short handed sail, homely feel, lots of room all more important, especially as lets face it, with modern tech & weather prediction, they are all safe boats, its usually the sailor that is unsafe!! Rating for me puts Lagoon higher as its basically a floating condo that can travel and will be available in the future at a reasonable price that will let me update and partially refit.
@sailingrubyrose
5 жыл бұрын
We looked at new boats because it was a boat show. However you are correct, many of these are out of our price range. However many of the features of the new boats are present on used boats. We will of course look at the used market, but it’s easier to quantify, and get up to date pricing, polar diagrams and extras lists from new boats.
@trungtran4215
4 жыл бұрын
price factor would be critical
@williamsoares5776
4 жыл бұрын
I totally understand the importance of the advertisement; however, the size of it may affect the entire commitment. It is better to have three short commercials during the episode than have one ginormous add...
@jamielancaster01
5 жыл бұрын
The answer is the one that you can afford, that is in the best condition, and that meets your use!
@lightning9279
5 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@wolfmooch
5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking best was a friends
@bigkellyg5947
5 жыл бұрын
If you can't afford it , don't do it. Buy once, cry once.
@donjohnston3776
5 жыл бұрын
Quite right regarding affordability, that being said it would be interesting to consider a 1 or 2 year-old Privilege if a couple or more are living on board full time.
@mattf49006
5 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/lKaFuJehfWiUoKA Pretty nice older leopard..well fitted out
@ronhecklinger1845
5 жыл бұрын
Seawind 1260? Looking forward to your view.
@AndyUK-Corrival
5 жыл бұрын
Great series guys. I’m not in the market for a cat but for the first time I went Board one at Southampton IBS on Monday. Nautitech and having looked round I could see the points you raised so I think you have done an amazing job with these reviews. Andy UK
@tonyhalsall3170
4 жыл бұрын
Very surprised at your aversion to the front cockpit of the Leopard, especially with your experience of Mediterranean mooring. The cockpit does clear of water - the proof is out there and I imagine that cockpit adds an incalculable value when at anchor (to wind) and when sailing in the trade winds - not to mention privacy when moored, or at anchor. I am still recreationally chartering and May never get to do the long distance stuff in my own cat - but hopefully an opinion is still worthy?
@sailingrubyrose
4 жыл бұрын
Very worthy opinion, Thankyou Tony!
@jmb1805
5 жыл бұрын
Very pleased to see the Seawind come out on top. The viewers clearly have good tastes! Thanks for a terrific series. Glad to hear there will be more reviews to come. I’m looking forward to seeing how the Balance 526 compares to the 1600 (notwithstanding the price difference).
@balgillow
5 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to your review of the Maverick 400/440, when you get the chance. Thanks also for taking the time to compile all this!
@philipsheldon6237
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys you haven’t mentioned sailing performance in terms of bridge deck clearance and potential slapping.
@sailingrubyrose
4 жыл бұрын
We have dealt with this topic in several videos and explained why we don’t discuss bridge deck clearance. In short, there is not a clear link between the two. Nacelle shape, trim, loading and sea state all contribute to slapping. To the inexperienced it would be misleading to discuss clearance and indicate that the link between it and slapping is direct
@cathyjackson8337
5 жыл бұрын
Suggestion- film older Cats that you would consider actually purchasing. Really enjoyed this series. Lots of work.
@steware
5 жыл бұрын
I’d definitely watch that series.
@grantvandyk6840
5 жыл бұрын
I was on a two year old Seawind 1260 a few months ago and I absolutely didn't like it. Full disclaimer never been on a 1600 but it looks like a slightly larger version of the 1260 to me so I probably would have the same feeling about the 1600. Either way, Its funny to me that you are a cruising channel and are picking a performance based, cramped, minimalist catamaran as the best. You spent time with Niki and Jason and those two have been in the French Polynesia area for months now. All that gear, dive tanks, boards etc wouldn't fit comfortably on a Seawind 1260 they would need the 1600 and would have to spend far more for the boat than most other brands. Even though you are coming from a mono hull I think you would regret not getting the extra space. Family/Patron visits, extra crew, or whatever would be difficult. Just like buying a house, if you see it when it is empty and it looks small wait till you put all your stuff in it then it will be really small. If you have a spare moment check out this video from Sailing Zatara. Yeah hes talking about used boats but the principle is the same. kzitem.info/news/bejne/2KyizJNtcImVh6w No matter the decision, it is your decision and you have to do what is best for you and screw what the rest of us think. Just my unsolicited two cents.. Love you both, stay safe out there.
@sailingrubyrose
5 жыл бұрын
Hey Jack! We haven't been onboard the 1260 yet, but the 1600 was designed by a different naval architect so I believe the two boats do have many differences. We're not going to base our final decision on these scores (as in, whichever scores highest will be the 'winner'), but we are using these reviews as a tool to study and compare the available catamarans on the market. So just because we're gushing over the performance cats, doesn't necessarily mean that's the direction we'll go in. Thanks for the input mate! 😀 - Terysa
@michaelcowanmichaelcowan969
4 жыл бұрын
Cruising is cruising regardless of the boat you buy.
@kolosmarkhalmosi7710
5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!! Could you please add prices to it? That would give another perspective ;)
@darrylwindle5331
4 жыл бұрын
why didnt you include the xquisite x5? that is a real quality catamaran for the price.....
@sailingrubyrose
4 жыл бұрын
It’s in the later review of all 19
@Pat92346
5 жыл бұрын
whew...for a minute there I thought you were done!!!! BALANCE will be 1st place when you review it....jus sayin. Especially after all the good/bad you just graded these great cats. BALANCE addresses most, if not all of them!!! Im having fun watching you two shopping....lol. Also, I love the Seawind as well..... You two are my kind of shoppers....no hurry!!!!
@steware
5 жыл бұрын
Pat92346 I just did a quick video search for the Balance...they lost me at Made In China...nope.
@Pat92346
5 жыл бұрын
@@steware um....do a better search, think it's Taiwan you racist! Still made in South Africa too...got a problem with Africans?
@billwellford376
5 жыл бұрын
Just wondering... if you applied your rating system to SV Curiosity, how would it rank? 😊
@sailingrubyrose
5 жыл бұрын
Good question. Let me get back to you on that. It would rank highly I think.
@steware
5 жыл бұрын
Oooh! Good idea, I really like they layout of Curiosity.
@adymatt334
4 жыл бұрын
How did you not include storage and fuel/water capacity in the criteria?
@kirk9671
5 жыл бұрын
Are you willing to pay for generator and air conditioning? It is an extra 35k. (Trying to decide if it is a necessity). Some say I need it for resale.
@sailingrubyrose
5 жыл бұрын
We probably won’t bother with the generator. Lots of solar and lithium
@CatamaranImpi
4 жыл бұрын
A very nice video - enjoyed watching this one. When it comes to choosing a cruising catamaran there are so many different aspects one needs to consider that this video has not yet covered but are important factors when considering ones purchase. We speak as folks who grew up with family owned monohulls and are now living permanently on our second catamaran, the first being a Catana 471 - our current catamaran being a Lagoon 440 which we purchased new and now sailing 10 years down the line. I’ve seen some of your comments / suggestions to others about then 440 Lagoon (no longer in production) but our experience has been very different mostly because we knew what we were buying and what was required to make / modify it to be the perfect cruising cat ‘for us’ . And this is key - but a cat you can eventually make into a cruising catamaran that satisfies your personal needs and preference. First off - I think one needs to place Catamarans into categories which would be according to length and price. To compare a 42 ft cat with a 51ft cat - well - it’s like comparing a sports car with a bus. 8ft on a sailing vessel is massive - they are worlds apart in every sense when it comes to sailing . The video although very helpful is a little misleading when it comes to voting mostly because there are so many variables in size, performance, comfort , price etc. It’s kinda like putting up a video on motor vehicles and saying ‘vote on this ‘ - we have a mini, a Toyota, a Volkswagen, a bus and a Ferrari. What is not covered in the video is what one wants to achieve for ones self, although specific mention is made - for cruising, but then the vital statistics for cruising is not mentioned - I.e. what load can a cat carry for the performance curves advertised. This is HUGE when considering a purchase of a cruising cat. In the video there is mention of a cat having a wide hull and therefore reduced performance, however, from personal experience a hull with more beam can carry more load (home comforts ) than a cat with narrow hulls and the cat with narrow hulls will reduce in performance far sooner than a cat with broader hulls, so this is extremely important for world cruising Catamarans and the choices one makes. We found that our previous catamaran although longer and supposedly faster according to the manufacturer performance curves, cannot match the performance with the loads (luxuries) we carry on our current cat. In fact, with dagger boards and all which is lacking in our current catamaran we find on our current model we are able to sail on a closer point of sail mostly due to something as simple as the Genoa track position on the coach roof and shorter spreader bars on the mast which enable one to bring the leech of the Genoa in closer. Another important fact is how the boat is set up for ease of sailing - lines coming back to one central station, being able to reef or hoist sails without turning the cat into the wind (dangerous in stormy conditions) etc. is HUGE as part of our ‘choice of catamaran’ when we consider buying. A cruising catamaran also needs to have a cruising set up. What one needs to compare with these boats is how the boat is set up for cruising the oceans of the world - for example - on Impi, we spent over time as much as we paid for our boat in the first place to have the perfect (for us) cruising catamaran. Folks are voting on what? They vote on things like ‘helm position’, woodwork finish etc. but there is so much more to consider when buying a catamaran - woodwork finish is probably the last thing that would bother me. When we purchased our second catamaran new, the first thing we did was to identify its weak points in design and build . We took the boat from France to South Africa and after some ‘fighting with the dealers’ we decided to make the boat a cruising boat by removing the paneling (carpenters) and strengthening the bulkheads. We’ve redesigned the sail profiles and set up ( over the years we’ve chopped and changed things) and we replaced the wiring by upgrading everything to cope with the demands we would require for comfortable world cruising . This is key to buying a catamaran today - is to understand that NO catamaran is built as a ‘buy and go’ cat for world cruising, unless you are the person who does not mind sailing with a basic lifestyle. When I say basic, let’s look at air conditioning for example. I’ve seen a number of videos where folks say air conditioning is not necessary for world cruising - but hey - here in Indonesia and Malaysia we are seeing so many desperate sailors suddenly installing air conditioning into their boats. Some are telling us in four letter words how they wished they had never listened to the ‘popular folks on YT saying one does not need an air conditioner’, and trust me - there are the die hard sailors here saying they don’t need it while the wives tell us a different story - lol. We like our home comforts and we love how the air conditioner not only keeps us cool through nights on ‘lithium batteries’ but also keeps the boat free of mould and humidity. We’ve been is some serious storms - the stern of a catamaran is probably the most important part of all because in heavy weather (which perhaps some will never encounter but on the off chance may), the stern is the part one wants to place to weather when deploying warps (a discussion in itself). So guys, we’ve also been visiting boat shows and we’ve turned away so many opportunities to ‘upgrade’ because ultimately one will be buying that new cat and doing so much much additional work to make it a proper cruising catamaran for world sailing that we felt we should mention it for those not quite aware - few to NO Catamarans are built for world cruising in mind. One needs to determine how the manufacturers arrive at their performance curves and how that performance drops when weight is added to the boat. It’s no rocket science that weight added to a boat with narrow hulls will cause it to loose performance sooner than weight added to a boat with broader hulls. Our previous catamaran with narrower hulls meant they had to lift the bed height to get enough bed width but we found we were sleeping close to the ceiling and with our bed closed on 3 sides. On our wider catamaran we have plenty of space above our bed and a lot of gap between the bed and ceiling and it’s a lot more comfortable. One needs to look at how the boat is set up - ie what gear is onboard and included in the price - this is HUGE for a world cruising cat. Well, I could go on and on but I thought it would be good to share this with those who otherwise may be in for a surprise looking at buying ‘the dream boat’ and suddenly realizing there is way much more to this than just buying something for its ‘helm position’ (in world cruising and today’s technology one is seldom at the helm anyway), wood work finish and other nice looking superficial eye pleasers . At the end of the day one is crossing oceans with a variety of sails - the manner in which the lines come aft, the number of jam cleats, rollers etc. and the ability to add to these as one upgrades are all important factors. We’ve seen a number of folks selling their ‘fast performance cats’ for beamier cats that carry more luxury on board over the years - we see it happening over and over again. I would say to folks looking at performance curves - DON’T BE FOOLED - as a cruising catamaran you will want to add weight - perhaps some will even add dive compressors (as we have done) etc. etc. Make sure to look at the weight of your boat out of the factory, look at what is onboard at that point, look at your future needs and make sure your boat can take the added weight to match those needs, and then, if performance is your thing, look at what the performance will be like with the added weight . In some discussions with manufacturers we were told their fast performing cruising cats would not be suitable for us given the added weight we would carry. We’ve sailed the oceans with many ‘performance’ cats and never been more than a day behind any of them but one thing is true - we arrive with all the home comforts onboard and most of our time is spent living comfortably off the islands. Passage making is only a small part of ones time when cruising the world and space, packing space, living space, ability to carry load trumps all else if one is doing this years on end. Keep up the good work guys Brent and Ana Cat Impi
@sailingrubyrose
4 жыл бұрын
Thank for the extensive and thoughtful comments. All valid points
@CatamaranImpi
4 жыл бұрын
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose - love your videos and looking forward to seeing you guys out on the water. One thing I know for sure is that come time to choose your boat you will have done your homework. Im looking forward to seeing you guys splash ... Cheers fellow sailors
@acarl100
4 жыл бұрын
The title says catamarans and you start off showing a trimamran ,,, DUH !!!
@sailingrubyrose
4 жыл бұрын
Keep watching mate, it gets better 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@klouism1
5 жыл бұрын
Such a great video. Really a lot of work and energy went into this series I know. It is much appreciated. I hope in time you will get your dream catamaran. Stay well and happy.
@frankforstner1172
5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful review, if you should get a chance, please review the balance 526, thanks
@erikhaw7313
5 жыл бұрын
Best most comprehensive review ever. Thanks for sharing your journey! It is definitely making me seriously consider sailing in a catamaran
@johndonaldson5126
5 жыл бұрын
I'm very much enjoying your cat reviews and looking forward to more. At the moment these are the most interesting cruising related videos I watch.
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