Psalm 95:5 For all the gods of the gentiles are devils
@DanielRojas-cg9zc
11 сағат бұрын
See, this sort of video is the reason I'm subscribed to this channel. Impeccable reasoning. Even though I'm not of your faith, i find your reasoning very clear and sounds. Thank you for dedicating yourself, and putting so much effort into this!
@MikePasqqsaPekiM
9 сағат бұрын
Fitting this was posted on the Feast Day of Saint Luke the Evangelist!
@khatack
7 сағат бұрын
God is Truth and Truth is God. Truth is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient.
@kingflockthewarrior202
Сағат бұрын
theirs a paradox in their somewhere.
@PatriciaMcGloin-f8y
8 сағат бұрын
Thank you Brian Holdsworth
@gingerherringtonSTMM
9 сағат бұрын
Very well done, Brian. Great job!
@BensWorkshop
2 сағат бұрын
Good work!
@davina7108
6 сағат бұрын
Great video Brian, keep the good stuff coming!
@robertd9965
13 сағат бұрын
Factual inaccuracy: The Sophists were very much in favor of science and were early advocates of something akin to the theory of human and economic development. Yes, they were epistenological sceptics, but not in the sense of believing in chaos.
@stephenbailey9969
41 минут бұрын
The God who gave people like Mr. Holdsworth a mind to discuss gods, that is the One.
The whole problem with the other gods is that they do exist, but that they are lesser beings. Notably, not one of these claims to be the One God, as the God of Israel does. They are only Gods of particular places, people's, cities & families. When God judges the Gods of Egypt he does not judge fictional beings. Also, for accuracy's sake: Christianity is not monotheistic, the Church Fathers speak of a "monarchia". Monotheism is a category developed in the Enlightenment.
@gerddonni2017
7 сағат бұрын
Excellent! Thank you once more.
@mariekelly4774
31 минут бұрын
The Three divine persons are one and the same God because they have one and the same divine nature.
@oodo2908
9 сағат бұрын
In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says that its not ideal for people to worship gods. There is an Infinite One. Core texts older than Hinduism describe the creation of the universe the same way as in the Judeo: first there was thought, then sound, then light. So I don't understand why Hindus practice idol worship. They use a pantheon of gods that are not part of the Puranic texts. It seems to me the 4000+ year old Vedic texts were solid. They esteem God the One, and the 'gods' in the stories were venerated as servants to God, much like we Catholics do with our Saints. And their figure of Krishna is rather similar to Christ. In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna's main premise throughout is that we should serve God's purpose, even if it is an ugly one. The archer Arjuna does not want to go to war and kill. So Krishna tells Arjuna this apocalyptic war is meant to be, and Arjuna must kill. It is his divine duty. It's no different than Ecclesiastes, '...a time to kill, a time to heal, a time to break down, and a time to build.'
@orangemanbad
8 сағат бұрын
However Krishna is a false god
@oodo2908
7 сағат бұрын
@@orangemanbad This book is from possibly 6000 or more years before Christ. Some Hindus have made Krishna out to be Gods incarnate, though. They ignore that Krishna said only to mind the One Infinite God. To me Hindus are like many Protestants who idolize Jesus to the point that they dont consider the Infinite Unknowable God. They ask for worldly things and success and happiness without suffering, right here, right now. Catholics remember that Jesus is one part of the Trinity, so we dont lose focus on the First Cause that was not a man. But when you conceptualize God only in a finite form, like a human, then there are problems...
@st.mephisto8564
7 сағат бұрын
@@oodo2908Honestly speaking as a Hindu here. You have a huge misconception regarding Krishna and what Hinduism teaches
@st.mephisto8564
7 сағат бұрын
@@oodo2908First of all Krishna doesn't say I'm only a messenger & you should worship The One above me. He says Iam the God. He made very distinct claims of Godhood.
@orangemanbad
6 сағат бұрын
@@oodo2908 that’s a very bizarre way of explaining it. As a Catholic I can help you understand our view. We believe in only One God. It gets confusing in English because we call Jesus the son of God so people seem to be confused that he is some additional god. But in truth, he is simply the visible image of the invisible God. He came so we can know God and understand him because the Father in heaven is unknowable and too incomprehensible for us. But it’s only ONE God, One being who has shown himself in 3 forms.
@martinciglenecki526
14 минут бұрын
Someone send this to Ricky Gervais
@byzantinedeacon
Сағат бұрын
Our God is lord over them all (psalm 82)
@ronnygeis895
Сағат бұрын
hey Brian, I love topics like this, but I'm not a big fan of the AI-generated assets/thumbnails. They look visibly more lifeless than real photography or art.
@ta15479
3 сағат бұрын
The lie argument is not persuasive. Ever heard of a noble lie?
@laststarfighter5335
12 сағат бұрын
"Lets create man in OUR image". Who else is HE talking to? "Worship no OTHER GODS above me" In my mind, it seems like all those "mythic" gods are the angels of GOD Above All.
@calmite
11 сағат бұрын
The Trinity
@bumpercoach
13 сағат бұрын
He has final say so the inventions of men and women both before and since Jesus will be held to His standard
@cromi4194
4 сағат бұрын
Christian apologists seem to be almost completely unable to discuss Hidnusism and Buddhism - you talked about Paganism, Pantheism and the Abrahamic religions. Yes I know Buddhism doesn't acknowledge a supreme God, but the most supreme in Buddhism remains ineffable. What happens to a Buddha after his death cannot possibly be put into words. But we have this from the Zen-Teacher Huang Po for instance: "All the Buddhas and all sentient beings are nothing but One Mind, beside which nothing exists. This Mind, which is without beginning, is unborn and indestructible. It is not green nor yellow, and has neither form nor appearance. It does not belong to the categories of things which exist or do not exist, nor can it be thought of in terms of new or old. It is that which you see before you - begin to reason about it, and you at once fall into error. It is like the boundless void which cannot be fathomed or measured. The One Mind alone is the Buddha, and there is no distinction between the Buddha and sentient beings, but that sentient beings are attached to forms and so seek externally for Buddhahood." Or in Hinduism we have Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita - first to dispute that (all of) Hinduism is Polytheist Krishna Sais in Bhagavad Gita 9:23: "Even those devotees who, endowed with faith, worship other gods, worship Me alone, Ο son of Kunti, though in a wrong way." And what does Krishna claim about himself (Bg 10.39-: " Furthermore, O Arjuna, I am the generating seed of all existences. There is no being-moving or nonmoving-that can exist without Me. O mighty conqueror of enemies, there is no end to My divine manifestations. What I have spoken to you is but a mere indication of My infinite opulences. Know that all opulent, beautiful and glorious creations spring from but a spark of My splendor." Both Buddhism and some forms of Hinduism are extremely sophisticated and aren't easily put into the quite pedestrian thinking of western philosophy and theology.
@pwalk4160
2 сағат бұрын
Discussions about Buddhism and Hinduism among apologists, if they happen, are invariably so shallow as to be grotesque. It's far better to listen to spiritually experienced adepts in christian meditation and mystical traditions who will have a much better grasp of it.
@mariekelly4774
32 минут бұрын
There is only One True God Father Son and Holy spirit.
@randee4550
6 сағат бұрын
For one God to exist ALL gods must exist, since they'll theoretically exist, within the same matrix. If one God, doesn't exist, then NONE do, since every single God, would have to exist, within the same exact plane of existence, or non existence.
@spiritofMongan
Сағат бұрын
He is very bias in his theory and make too many assumptions regarding the bibles authentic stories. One has to believe the stories in the bible and the history reported therein are true and accurate in order to go with what he says in this video. Many Bible scholars have proven the Bible is only Fables and myths.
@spiritofMongan
Сағат бұрын
Brian is making a ton of assumptions concerning the stories in the bible. I suggest some research in proving the bible is a true depiction of history and studying history in other sources to backup his claims. If you study the pagan religion that were before Christianity you would see many parallels such as In pagan mythology, the prophet whose story most closely resembles Moses is Balaam; both are depicted as divinely gifted individuals who are approached by a king to curse a specific group of people, but instead, are compelled by a higher power to bless them instead. So Your proof of your God is null and void based on your emitting other past stories of deities and prophets.
@shaulkramer7425
14 сағат бұрын
Hello Brian! I sent an e-mail to your e-mail address from your website. I need help with joining the Church.
@blujeans9462
13 сағат бұрын
God's grace be with you! 🙏
@emperorzombie1420
11 сағат бұрын
I encourage you to look into your local church’s RCIA or OCIA program. That is how you join the Catholic Church!
@VanchaMarch2
13 сағат бұрын
Why does Zeus have a winged helmet lmao, is the thumbnail AI-generated?
@physiocrat7143
11 сағат бұрын
Too nuch philosophising here. This cannot be answered by rational argument. The true God is the one that Christians meet in the Eucharist. Moses met the same God in the burning bush. I assume Brian has been reading Aquinas. Remember that he described his own writings as straw.
@davidniedjaco9869
9 сағат бұрын
Yes..straw compared to Holy Writ Holy pronouncements by Councils and Popes..COMPARED..but Aquinas is not meaning that his work doesn't have any intrinsic value..it has immense intrinsic value!..so much so that the Church and Popes have constantly said that Aquinas is the answer to which all things should be measured..doesn't mean it's as good as Holy Writ or the like but actually it comforms to all of it and actually without adding to anything, enlightens it, to which people can understand the Truths of the Faith so much better..so much easier..Aquinas' writing are straw COMPARED not just empty straw in itself..also just because YOU think something is to hard or even if you think it isn't hard but to philosophical..what makes you the arbiter of what is and isn't important within the faith?..I thought that was left to the Church, with all do respect..God bless Mary protect +++
@Idishrkdmd
9 сағат бұрын
I can tell your personality from your comment denying philosophy for God to understand and praise him in his interaction with creation is certainly good it’s just not what is the greatest Aquinas knew that the Eucharist was most important philosophy is minuscule compared to it but it is still important and Good to deny it is silly.
@physiocrat7143
6 сағат бұрын
@@davidniedjaco9869 Aquinas was making the "Straw" comparison in relation to the revelations which he received at the very end of his life. There is a possible context to his writings, which he produced at the time of the controversy with St Gregory Palamas and the assertion of apophatic theology which prevails in the Eastern Orthodox Church.
@physiocrat7143
6 сағат бұрын
@@Idishrkdmd I am in good company, in that case. 1 Corinthinians 1:18-20 Other religions are heavy with philosophy but it does no get in the way of their following of false Gods.
@Silver77cyn
10 сағат бұрын
Kind of odd how you mention that pagans adopted other gods from lands they conquered, when Chistians adopted other relgious traditions to appeal more to pagan.
@Idishrkdmd
9 сағат бұрын
They didn’t you don’t have any actual historical evidence any claim you make is false and not true you are just lying denying the truth. Even if your claim is correct how does that invalidate God it’s a nothing arguement did you read the Old Testament the people in that did crazy things against God but he didn’t disappear and cease to exist.
@joan8862
5 сағат бұрын
Or perhaps the pagan converts to Christianity took some of their former traditions and adapted them to their newfound faith.
@Eaglealbert42
4 сағат бұрын
Traditions? maybe a few arbitrary ones, such as the dates for holidays and a few festivities here and there, but the theology and actual religion part of Christianity remains unchanged.
@BigIdeaSeeker
11 сағат бұрын
An even better response than “which god?” would be what is far more likely: there very well may be a gods, but it is highly unlikely that ANY of the god, including the desert god, Yahweh, from the ANE corner of the globe. You know the one, the one who, just like all the preexisting gods in his area, loves the smell of burning flesh, is capricious in nature, rides on a cloud, sits on a throne just as men do, and so on? And as for including embarrassing anecdotes of the disciples, that is a long-used trope in literature from ancient times to the modern day, that if the bumbling sidekick. If the disciples look the fool, Jesus looks all the better.
@grigorione7824
3 сағат бұрын
Baiame ... 60 thousand year old story of creation . And if you get right into it you see how more modern stories of creation could have come from this origin .
@RichardEnglander
49 минут бұрын
The One Eyed God
@BigIdeaSeeker
11 сағат бұрын
“Climb up to Mt Olympus and see they are not there.” Silly Brian. Doesn’t he realize Mt Olympus is symbolic? I mean, once upon a time could one walk into the tabernacle tent in the Israelite camp and look upon Yahweh in the Holy of Holies? Sheesh, next thing he’ll say is Shiva has many arms.
@Idishrkdmd
9 сағат бұрын
Accept it wasn’t the Greeks made up excuses like that the Heavens were invisible but they definitely believed that. Next you’ll say Icarus was scientifically accurate because the suns warm you completely grasp at non arguements as excuses the ancient Greek pantheon has incorrect cosmology anyway it can’t be true. Tabernacle was real and still is to this day Christ sits in them in every church.
@BigIdeaSeeker
9 сағат бұрын
@@Idishrkdmd You make a brilliant point. My point exactly. Just as the Greeks “made up excuses” the level of absurdity in the excuse-making in Christendom is through-the-roof mad, isn’t it? Magical powers of saints’ body parts, bread becomes flesh except it’s not, Noah’s ark, stationary Sun, soon and so forth. Christians cannot even remotely agrrr on what’s literal and what’s symbolic. A bit ironic, eh?
@TheDragonageorigins
8 сағат бұрын
@@BigIdeaSeeker It's pretty easy to determine what is and isn't symbolic or metaphorical. There's 66 books, they aren't all going to be the same, narratively. Like it's very important to understand the message of the bible is singular, and all roads lead to it in some capacity. It's also important to look at text as charitably as possible.
@spiritofMongan
Сағат бұрын
His Bias keeps him for doing research in history to back-up his claims. It also would not hurt for him to study the Hellenistic beliefs as well.
@BigIdeaSeeker
19 минут бұрын
@@TheDragonageorigins It’s “easy”, is it? But you must admit, it is easy for anyone who wants to see disparate stories, sources, or texts as a cohesive whole to do so, no? I mean I can look at the works of Hesiod and Homer, or even Livy and Virgil and twist them into a cohesive structure. The Bible offers very different views of God’s character, plans and desires. All one has to do do is say that he intended to change things, had a plan all along, or due to man’s free will had to make adjustments. So too, the Greeks and Romans have progressed as “revelation” guided humanity. Yea, the idea is absurd, but so too is your idea that the Bible’s many texts are univocal.
@forestgiest1380
11 сағат бұрын
One that doesn't tell us the word is 6,000 years old.
@cyano741
10 сағат бұрын
every century we get a new variation with a new set of beliefs. Religion itself morphs all the time, and so do the people who believe it. We all used to believe in possession. Now the world knows better and we have psychiatrists. Conviction is based on where you are born and what you get exposed to at any given time.
@sky365dt8
9 сағат бұрын
This claim is based on a conception of religion that would hold that any change over time would make religion A, for example, entirely different in kind rather than degree. Have you considered the idea that the God of the universe could be great enough to write a story with dynamic characters that have purpose because they less than uniformly discover through the reason He gifts them exactly how it is they should live and do so in a way rightly praising Him perfectly?
@sky365dt8
9 сағат бұрын
@@cyano741also, many psychiatrists rightfully acknowledge the existence of spiritual evil in the form of demonic activity. What we have learned is that the world is far more complex and that there are indeed other problems than can occur independent or comorbidly with posession such as mental health issues or pathologies related to physical health problems.
@TheDragonageorigins
8 сағат бұрын
Where in any religion does it say that?
@klezschuyler885
7 сағат бұрын
That's not what we believe.
@doanepoole6640
8 сағат бұрын
Kinda seems like a big cope.
@davepugh2519
3 сағат бұрын
The Christian god is as real as all the others.
@bumpercoach
6 сағат бұрын
God showed His truth in the Bible and PROVES IT in the Book of Mormon
@khatack
7 сағат бұрын
There's no real way to truly know God from all the false ones. The so called "evidence" for the life, death and resurrection of Christ is two millenia old and comes from sources that cannot be verified simply because of the enormous time gap. The only standard with which we CAN gleam at the nature of God comes from Jesus Himself; by their fruit ye shall know them. Just like true believers bear good fruit, so does true faith bear good fruit. The best and only evidence we truly have for the Divinity of Jesus are the validity of His teachings; and no, I'm not talking about the theological nonsense people have built around Him since He departed this world, I mean His commandments. Love God with all thy heart, and love thy neighbor as yourself. When arguing with Atheists, they have the logical high ground, no matter how much we believers might wish it to be otherwise. The scientific world simply doesn't recognize, nor does it need God. The laws of physics work as they do and the question of Divinity is irrelevant to science. True Faith is of the heart, not of the head. This has always been and shall always be the case. We as Christians should've stopped arguing about theological semantics ages ago and just do as our Lord commanded. Instead, we fall in love with our own ideas and we reduce faith into theology, pretending it to be science. Science cannot touch anything that is not of this world, neither can human logic, no matter how much people wish to insert Aristotle into the doctrines of Christ.
@william3347
5 сағат бұрын
But it's not all about us with True Faith already but about reaching out to the lost including Atheists. Like Paul said: 'For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made..'. The scientific world cannot adequately explain how the finely tuned universe came into existence, or how non-living matter became alive, DNA programmed, and 'evolved' without intelligent cause. Jesus performed all those miracles, died for our sin, then rose as evidence to prove who he is. The multiple recorded witness testimonies and forensic evidence on the shroud would hold up in court and may even sway hard hearts today away from the ideas of R. Dawkins et al.
@pwalk4160
2 сағат бұрын
All of them are true, as well as none.
@st.mephisto8564
7 сағат бұрын
4:02 Thats simply Not true. Lol Im a Hindu and we believe that about Vishnu, Shiva, Kali etc
@no3339
4 сағат бұрын
So you have multiple gods?
@st.mephisto8564
4 сағат бұрын
@@no3339 Not unless, the Trinity is multiple Gods
@Silver77cyn
11 сағат бұрын
Unless you can't demonstrate or show that your god exists in any way shape or form, there is no reason to believe in one.
@JohnTheRevelator11
10 сағат бұрын
🤔
@Silver77cyn
10 сағат бұрын
@@JohnTheRevelator11 😬
@Idishrkdmd
9 сағат бұрын
It seems to me that most people will determine no evidence of that God good enough though. Philosophically necessary is not good enough. Historical correctness in the undersigned coincidence of the scripture not good enough. Prophecies being fulfilled 100’s of years after there telling not good enough. Miracles like Fatima in front of thousands not good enough. There is plenty of evidence people just won’t accept it because they have hardened their hearts to the thought of it. That’s why flat earthers exist no matter the evidence it’s not good enough for them most atheists are just flat earthers in a religious sense.
@TheDragonageorigins
8 сағат бұрын
My issue with making statements like this is it's inherently a loaded statement. Like there's dozens of questions one must know about the person making a statement like this in order to hone it on what exactly they're looking for. I'm sure if you wanted to be specific you would say you're asking for evidence. That narrows it down to like 10 other questions.
@ctylsh1214
7 сағат бұрын
Go on wikipedia and read about Jesus then
@sasoriko
14 сағат бұрын
How to know which God is the right one _is_ the story of the Tanakh. Not even God's chosen people stuck with him. 10 of the tribes went off to worship other gods and separated themselves from the kingdom. If those that saw him work in their lives chose a different God who are we to say that we have chosen correctly when we have even less context? Also how do we go from God judging the Gods of Egypt, doing battle with Dagon, and Baal to monotheism? Were the other Gods defeated? If so why then was God's kingdom conquered by the Greek and then Roman Gods? Why also did Christ eventually become absorbed into the culture that crucified him?
@catholicguy1073
13 сағат бұрын
Jesus concern was to spread the faith over the entire World. As Paul said there is no Greek and no Jew…. Many Jews did convert and many did not. And when Christianity spread into the known world the diaspora the Christians were heavily persecuted for over 300 years to spread the faith. Perhaps read up on Christian history whether you agree with or not it is interesting to learn about. So much was this desire that the Church names themselves the Catholic Church in the first century because they were the Universal Church. As Jesus said to baptize people of all nations.
@johnroesch2159
12 сағат бұрын
"Also how do we go from God judging the Gods of Egypt, doing battle with Dagon, and Baal to monotheism?" Answer, this occurred through revelation through the Jewish prophets. As the prophet Daniel explained, the gods of the pagans are nothing but devils (fallen angels). In Babylonian captivity, it is revealed to the Jewish people that their God, Yahweh, was the one true God. Before this the Jewish people were in a state of monolatry. After this they were monotheistic. "If so why then was God's kingdom conquered by the Greek and then Roman Gods? " The Kingdom of Judea was conquered by the Greek and Roman empires not their gods. Judea was liberated from Greek oppression by Judas Maccabeus and his men and the Temple was reopened which is why the Jews celebrate Hanukkah. Judea fell after scripture was fulfilled by Christ. "Why also did Christ eventually become absorbed into the culture that crucified him?" Christianity over came the pagan culture of Rome and transformed society. Christ is Savior, Sanctifier, and Redeemer for all people who believe in him. The Christian Roman Empire was no longer the pagan Roman Empire that crucified Christ! "Not even God's chosen people stuck with him. 10 of the tribes went off to worship other gods and separated themselves from the kingdom." Those who separate themselves perished. "If those that saw him work in their lives chose a different God who are we to say that we have chosen correctly when we have even less context?" We live and they perished, that is how we know we have chosen correctly. Those who abide in the one True God have life, the rest perish in the end!
@strivingforheaven
14 сағат бұрын
There's only one God, so the choice is pretty easy. Looking forward to the Inferno Men's conference on November 9th!
@SalemK-ty4ti
13 сағат бұрын
Suppose you have a wealthy friend. This friend asks you to worship and praise him, love him and in return he will help you whenever you need it. Then you come down with a disease that is fatal if not treated. The medication is not covered by insurance, nor will your government pay for the medications. Unfortunately you can't get the financing to pay for it. You go to your wealthy friend who you have worshipped, praise and loved and ask him for money to pay for the medicine that will save your life. This amount although large to you is not even a drop in the bucket to your rich friend. The rich friend tells you no, I won't help you now, maybe in the future or maybe not. You plead with him for help as you need the medicine now in order to save your life. The friend says sorry but helping you would take away your free will. So you end up dying a suffering and painful death. That is not a friend but someone who used you. Well, that's exactly what the Christian god does here. The exception is you have actual evidence that your wealthy friend exists - we have no good evidence that the Christian god exists.
@johnroesch2159
11 сағат бұрын
God does answer prayers however he can chose to answer or not too depending on what is being asked of him and if it is right to grant it. You create a false analogy above by describing God as a wealthy friend and expecting him to think and act as a human being in paying for medical treatment. God has actually performed medical miracles for people which are documented and often associated with the intercedence of Saints and the Blessed Virgin Mary. Jordon Pederson's wife, Tammy, is one of these people. Also God actually helping someone does not at all take away someone's freewill.
@johnroesch2159
11 сағат бұрын
"The exception is you have actual evidence that your wealthy friend exists - we have no good evidence that the Christian god exists." Wrong, the Shroud of Turin provides all the needed evidence of Christ's death and resurrection.
@emperorzombie1420
11 сағат бұрын
God loves me and respects my feel will, but if I ask Him for help he is there. If He doesn’t cure me of my sickness, I don’t spurn Him. I accept that it is t worrying Him so I shouldn’t worry about it either. It’s not easy, but things that are worthwhile are not easy. Even more so, God answers prayers all the time. Go to Him and ask for help believing if you need to.
@SalemK-ty4ti
11 сағат бұрын
@@johnroesch2159 There’s no good evidence that prayers are answered. What you are doing is the fallacious reasoning of counting the hits and ignoring the misses. The Christian organization the Templeton Foundation actually tested prayer and the results showed prayer worked at the same rate as non prayer. You also are using fallacious reasoning of the double standard- one for humans and another different standard for the god You believe exists. If it would be wrong for people to behave a certain way it would also be just as wrong for god to behave the same way. It would be like saying it’s wrong for an ordinary person to commit murder but it would be ok for a rich important to commit murder just as it would be wrong for god to commit murder. Murder is just wrong because it is wrong and not because someone or some god says so. I mean you might think murder is ok(I don’t know what you think) but just about everyone agrees murder is wrong. I have to say this because some ignorant Christians have asked me why is murder wrong? I can’t believe these Christian’s don’t know why murder is wrong, something I even figured out for myself when I was just a small child without believing in any gods.
@SalemK-ty4ti
11 сағат бұрын
@@johnroesch2159 The Shroud of Turin, a linen cloth that tradition associates with the crucifixion and burial of Jesus, has undergone numerous scientific tests, the most notable of which is radiocarbon dating, in an attempt to determine the relic's authenticity. In 1988, scientists at three separate laboratories dated samples from the Shroud to a range of 1260-1390 CE, which coincides with the first certain appearance of the shroud in the 1350s and is much later than the burial of Jesus in 30 or 33 CE. Aspects of the 1988 test continue to be debated. Despite some technical concerns that have been raised about radiocarbon dating of the Shroud, no radiocarbon-dating expert has asserted that the dating is substantially unreliable.
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