Since Luke can communicate with Yoda, Ben, and Anakin, in the afterlife, I imagine he could have received some training from them as well, wouldn't he?
@YungAmeer
Жыл бұрын
But he was cut off when he became pre exile
@andrewchan612
Жыл бұрын
Luke should be a very strong Jedi. However, the new star wars movies ruined him.
@smigabruv1912
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewchan612 i know they ruined him but he did show heavy amounts of power in the film whilst fighting kylo ren
@zackarydunker7324
Жыл бұрын
@@YungAmeerI believe this was before he went into exile
@YungAmeer
Жыл бұрын
@@zackarydunker7324 Yeah mb wrong statement lol
@its_classy
Жыл бұрын
I would say for deflecting blasters he was probably using Shien and not Soresu
@RetneysHolocron
Жыл бұрын
Soresu was created to deflect blasters
@christopherwilliams4665
Жыл бұрын
@@RetneysHolocronit wasn’t as accurate compared to form v
@its_classy
Жыл бұрын
@@RetneysHolocron Shien is also created to do so but then offer powerful counterattacks, I'd say thats more fitting to Luke.
@Blurgamer17
Жыл бұрын
The practice of Shien typically has an emphasis on Saber techniques that revolve around the use of a reverse-grip stance. (Ahsoka and Starkiller being prime examples of Shien users) Luke doesn't reverse-grip any of his lightsabers used and furthermore, he had time to revise with Ghost-Kenobi before heading to Tatooine to save Solo. This would suggest he's more akin to the use of the more stamina-efficient Soresu, but he may have eventually implemented the use of shien-defense while holding a Djem So stance, like his father did during the battle of Geonosis and throughout the Clone Wars. Although if that was the case, it would have been when he merged the forms together to create new ones as Grandmaster and not during RoTJ.
@Usernamelol45
Жыл бұрын
Shien is deflecting the blaster bolts at the opponent, Soresu is to just block ur blaster fire out of the way which is accurate to what Luke did
@bemasaberwyn55
Жыл бұрын
If we do ever get to see a younger version of him during this era I would really love to see a sparring session between him and Ahsoka
@jeringurr7877
Жыл бұрын
This is why he's my favorite he is the chosen one
@kidwajagstang
Жыл бұрын
God bless Favrou and Feloni for keeping Luke’s appearance and heroism from being discovered by Kathleen Kennedy before it aired. Easily the best Star Wars content from the last 40 years!
@gareth4009
8 ай бұрын
Form V isn’t offensive. It’s counter attacks. Ataru is the most aggressive form with Juyo being the most ferocious.
@mattycefai4160
6 ай бұрын
Or he just learned to block and swing instead of getting shot.
@marcreid8978
Жыл бұрын
Luke Skywalker, in his young Jedi days was a beast.
@TruthJuice
Жыл бұрын
Yoda trains the best duelers. Luke is him!
@icecold7352
Жыл бұрын
where can i learn forms? like i really wanna learn bout them more and they should talk about it in movies more.
@PrinceDaemonTargaryen
11 ай бұрын
Their discussed on the jedi path novel and the essential guide to the force
@MrDumdumkilla
Жыл бұрын
Let me know when they speak or relate anything to saber forms in the movies 😂😂😂
@mooneyes8995
Жыл бұрын
Wait. Is it fair to say that Luke became a master of Niman/ Form VI? I ask because Form VI is a combination of Forms I, III, IV, and V, with the added emphasis using telekinetic Force attacks and being able to use two lightsabers.
@YasaiTsume
Жыл бұрын
Honestly after looking at the first official fight of Luke since Episode 6 (we don't talk about Sequels), he was pretty much Niman'ing all over the Dark Troopers in Mandalorian. Niman has a high focus on flexibility and blending bladework with Force telekinesis.
@steel58836
Жыл бұрын
Niman also incorporates form 2, aince niman takes from every form before it
@Dedu1214
Жыл бұрын
2 lightsabers is jar'kai. Niman is mostly for Double blades
@Blurgamer17
Жыл бұрын
@Dedu1214 Double-Blade and Dual-Wield combat are both sub-variants of Form VI itself, and can be applied (in theory) to any and every form from the first to last. (Makashi is the only real exception, as it's only meant to be practiced with a single-blade Saber [although Ventress showed its use with Jar'Kai]) Niman itself is just the place to go when you can decide on just _one_ form.
@kingramon437
Жыл бұрын
A.B.Y? After baby yoda?😭
@TheFruitofTruth
3 ай бұрын
GL said Luke was the true master of Form 5 like how Obi-wan was the true master of Form 3
@jakerooke174
Жыл бұрын
So he made form eight but just like windu didn’t teach it to anyone
@kokushibouDark
14 күн бұрын
Name of ost?
@chiliboi69
Жыл бұрын
Does that make him use FORM VIII
@unsorteddude
Жыл бұрын
He was taught by Kenobi who used form 3 and Yoda who used form 4. Learnt 5 because he was a Skywalker.
@ezioauditore6371
Жыл бұрын
No wonder why he was such a goated duelist he learned from the literal MASTERS of their respective form. Yoda was GOATED with IV, Kenobi with III, and Vader with V
@diamonshade7484
Жыл бұрын
@@ezioauditore6371 just missing some windu
@toiletrblx42069
Жыл бұрын
@@ezioauditore6371kenobi mastered form 3 and anakin mastered form 5 and yoda is just built different
@toiletrblx42069
Жыл бұрын
@@diamonshade7484ain’t no form 7 in luke
@edwinspeegle9511
Жыл бұрын
@@toiletrblx42069he would be good at it tho
@Fatherofheroesandheroines
Жыл бұрын
Luke was a true master of " Eh that works ".
@NostalgicClips01
Жыл бұрын
If you remove plot armor Luke is one of the weakest characters in Star Wars.
@kkay000
Жыл бұрын
@@NostalgicClips01no
@NostalgicClips01
Жыл бұрын
@kkay000 could barely take down a broken Vader who wanted to die and stood no chance against Sidious. This is why Anakin was always the chosen one.
@slimeplayz116
Жыл бұрын
@@NostalgicClips01Vader wanted to rule the galaxy Luke won fair and square and the novelization of rotj says that Vader saw Luke as an equal and wasn’t conflicted to be. Honest the one who was conflicted was Luke well till Luke started attacking Anakin is the choose but he’s really weak Comparing him to top tier Jedi at their primes like yoda Luke mace windy and other Plus. (Anakin never became a Jedi master)
@roronoalaw7772
Жыл бұрын
@@slimeplayz116If you’re talking novelisations and canon, Knightfall Vader is above every Jedi, even Yoda, in fact there were multiple statements putting Anakin above everyone before he even reached his potential
@christophermatos8120
Жыл бұрын
Its just beautiful him coming out the elevator and blocking all the blasters
@FreddieHg37
Жыл бұрын
"He has too much of his father in him." -Beru Lars
@thedeadlynose5127
3 ай бұрын
That's what im afraid of.
@Angliscwer93
Жыл бұрын
Luke actually didn't know much about the traditional forms, if anything at all. He simply developed his fighting style based on intuition, which ultimately ended up being like a hybrid of them. He would go on to develop and codify three forms at his Praxeum; Fast Style, Medium Style, and Strong Style. When the traditional seven forms were rediscovered, he did go on to master Form V, though I believe he became skilled in all of them in time. Regardless what form he used though, he was a nigh undefeatable lightsaber duelist once he came into his own. He was an absolute force of nature, like his father before him.
@Parocha
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, another Jedi Knight (game) veteran… good 😊
@coppertopv365
10 ай бұрын
He learned from Kenobi, and Yodi, and from Force Ghosts, an Holocrons. He knew some stuff
@Alderan3344
4 ай бұрын
and his academy also taught the three rings of defense. his school really had a literal corriculum of lightsaber styles to learn.
@aamirrazak3467
Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool how he developed his own form by blending forms 3,4 and 5. He was strong w Form V, like his father before him
@DTraiN5795
Жыл бұрын
Yea it is It’s also cool how several others used different forms and the damn movies just skip over all of this. It just one things of about 100-200 things the movies and other cannon shows just don’t go over. Sad honestly
@michaelterrell5061
Жыл бұрын
He was also amazing with form 1.
@blackpanther1013
Жыл бұрын
Forms 3,4,5 op combination. My style would be a hybridized form 4 aturu with forms 3 and 5 as suplental forms to cover for the weaknesses of ataru
@aamirrazak3467
Жыл бұрын
@223camewiththescope thanks man, appreciate it! I’m just a big fan of Star Wars especially the expanded universe, think I gotta cut back on the comments heh
@rahulbansal2
Жыл бұрын
“You’ve failed your highness. I use form V, like my father before me”
@joshuahopkins8747
Жыл бұрын
The silliest thing about Star Wars "forms", is that they all blend together to make one style: competent fencing.
@ThyFrogl
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@dominicballinger6536
Жыл бұрын
Isn't that just form 2 though?
@joshuahopkins8747
Жыл бұрын
@@dominicballinger6536 fencing refers to any form of sword combat. Longsword fencing, rapier fencing, sabre fencing, etc. Makashi is a derivative of sabre. Shii Cho is basic long sword. Ataru is a lot like Filipino Kali. All the other "forms" should be considered principles instead of forms, those previous 3 are the most unique.
@Nezxmi
Жыл бұрын
Not true at all. You may think this bc of how people will refer to something like Soresu as the “defensive” form, but that doesn’t mean no other form taught defensive measures or that Soresu had no offensive measures. The forms of lightsaber combat are far from just being principles, they’re indicative of your individual mindset and capabilities. Someone who uses Soresu uses their defense as an offense, using their opponents energy against them. This is a style that emphasizes an individuals stamina and turns it into a weapon. Someone who uses Djem So uses their overwhelming strength as a defense, they aim to throw an opponent off balance and prevent them from fighting back. This is a style that emphasizes an individuals strength and turns it into a shield trough heavy strikes and quick counter attacks. These are fundamentally different approaches to winning in combat and not simply principles. You may well utilize multiple strategies to achieve victory, but that does not make them principles. Each form stands on it’s own as an effective method and each employs the basic principles of combat uniquely.
@joshuahopkins8747
Жыл бұрын
@@Nezxmi An interesting and perfectly valid take. Have you ever fenced before?
@Nightwing01010
Жыл бұрын
And then Disney ruined him
@blaxpoitation8528
Жыл бұрын
And they allowed Rey to master all forms, all Jedi abilities, master piloting, and defeat both a Jedi grandmaster, a Jedi trained/Sith trained apprentie, and a Sith master, who brought about the destruction of the former Jedi order. All of this without ANY training or a Jedi master. Way to go Disney
@angelleyva7952
Жыл бұрын
@@blaxpoitation8528💀
@StoolGoodman
Жыл бұрын
@@blaxpoitation8528they did none of that. Don't pull feats out of your arse, it'll get sore if you do it too much.
@peterdubinsky5389
Жыл бұрын
It’s a lot easier to just admit it was horrible and not consider it canon or consider it as a part of Star Wars at all lol. Trust me man I’m with you but I don’t think it’s worth wasting energy on that grief anymore it sucked, get on with your life and don’t look back at that crap man it’s just not worth it.
@StoolGoodman
Жыл бұрын
@peterdubinsky5389 it's actually easiest to accept that they exist, are canon, but you don't have to watch them. However, what you shouldn't do is be a dick to those who do like them. Have a nice day
@bungiecoocoo
Жыл бұрын
I always thought he looked silly as he scooted after Vader. But not that you mention that Luke was mirroring his form aaah I can see what you mean. That’s really cool.
@Undefined9
Жыл бұрын
Luke is a jack of all trades in most traditional forms and a master of form V.
@Blurgamer17
Жыл бұрын
Form VI (Niman) would have been the second best fit for Luke if he didn't rework the saber forms outright, , as that is the derivative 'Jack of All Trades, Master of None' form of saber combat in the traditional seven-branch skill tree.
@UTU1O
2 ай бұрын
@@Blurgamer17 That's what I think he used in the Mandalorian Season 2, and after ROTJ with still a heavy focus on Djem So
@kensmith2285
Жыл бұрын
Vader was Luke's greatest teacher. Yes, he learned the basics from Obi-Wan and had Advanced Training from Yoda, but people tend to forget that he learned a lot about lightsaber combat from Darth Vader. It's really the first time that Luke had fought a truly experienced lightsaber duelist. Even though he was defeated, he learned and even mirrored his father's fighting style in their last duel.
@Brakidoo
Жыл бұрын
And then boiled it down to fast medium and heavy 😅
@seawind930
Жыл бұрын
Jedi Academy forms lets go!
@vincerusselmorales3065
Жыл бұрын
Form I/Shii-Cho + Form III/Soresu + Form IV/Ataru = Form V/Shien & Djem So. All combined lightsaber forms used by the greatest Jedis: Grandmaster Yoda, Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn, Jedi Master Obi Wan Kenobi, & Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker.
@lukas-kevynmuller6697
Жыл бұрын
Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker 💀
@YaboiBellingham5
Жыл бұрын
I love all the Star Wars vids about the lightsaber forms. They really make me interested in Star Wars more!!! So thank you master!!! 😊
@corynydam2361
Жыл бұрын
Slowing down the scene with Luke and the remote really lets you see how the lightsaber blade was hand tracked into the scene. It jumps all over the place.
@jellycore1316
11 ай бұрын
Yess, it's really cool, I noticed that too! ^^
@dankcraft7386
Жыл бұрын
I like how he put them all together at the end, great idea! 🗿
@juribe5202
Жыл бұрын
We dont see it in the original trilogy, and i feel a lot was left out between the three films and would be an amazing animated series like the clone wars. We dont see lukes training much other than Yoda's but my huy really is very powerful learning everytjing alone. From building his saber to using the force (big part from Yoda) and his ligtsaber training was all self taught. Thats pretty cool, but eould be cool to see him trsin it snd develop. You cant train any sport or martial srt eitjout sparring or putting itto use. Im not a big follower on legends or canons books, i don know if they say how he trsined and actually applied his methids indtead of just lesrning the theory of it
@Leondrius
Жыл бұрын
I know he used remotes, but I'm not sure about the rest.
@TheDogWhispererECS
Жыл бұрын
And he is labeled a bad duelist. People need to see vids like this
@Fancast100
Жыл бұрын
Rey and Kylo Ren are bad duelist
@SamG_007
Жыл бұрын
Cuz in the movies he doesn't do as crazy stuff as in the prequels, but that was mainly a limitation of the technology of the time. In lore, Luke's one of the greatest duelists of all time
@urjnlegend
Жыл бұрын
He is bad duelist compared to any jedi during the clone wars
@JamesRDavenport
Жыл бұрын
Luke Skywalker is one bad Jedi mutha. Anybody who is mad enough to draw him is Bantha Fodder.
@TheDogWhispererECS
Жыл бұрын
@@urjnlegend u got to be pretty special to go toe to toe with Darth Vader
@nimanknight662
9 ай бұрын
A true Niman practitioner, some could say. Form VI was Revans style of lightsaber combat.
@Donguri29
6 ай бұрын
Luke did like what Bruce Lee did with combining different martial arts forms.
@thegamer3512
4 ай бұрын
Tbh, if Luke had to choose a form, I bet he will do great with Form 6, Niman, the reason is that it lets the user use their imagination to their advantage, using different forms from form 1-5 in a certain order to throw off your opponent’s, and the fact you can make an attack and defense pattern with any of the forms at your choice at once is a good way to fight, by using creativity alone. So Luke would be great with form 6, Niman.
@UTU1O
2 ай бұрын
Well he slaughtered a lot of Dark Troopers, which are supposedly pretty formidable opponents, using Niman. So yeah, I would say the same. He's great at Niman.
@Beetwixt_N._Janeen2112
Жыл бұрын
Luke developing his own form, just sounds like 𝙇𝙪𝙠𝙚 - well done! 💯👏🏾👏🏾
@DTraiN5795
Жыл бұрын
Imo Luke is underrated from watching all these videos. Imo they just don’t know the man, the myth, the legend
@Grand_Master_Skywalker
9 ай бұрын
In the OG lore he’s a master of all lightsaber forms, but especially djem so
@Usernamelol45
Жыл бұрын
That's what I rly like about Lukes fighting style, it's all well rounded he has the acrobatics of Yoda, the defense of Obi-wan and the power of Vader and he ultimately became a better duelist then either of them atp and Post ROTJ mastered all forms of lightsaber combat, rly a peak Jedi
@socalpunisher
2 ай бұрын
Luke is the most underrated Jedi ever. He gets no respect specially cause of Disney. I’m sure if George Lucas was involved in the last 3 films he would be the most bad ass character in all of Star Wars.
@mikekolb3912
10 ай бұрын
Imagine if you will, they make a new trilogy of Star Wars movies, and Luke actually uses his lightsaber again !!!! Oh wait….Disney waisted that opportunity to show him drink some nasty alien milk 🤢
@samevans5450
10 ай бұрын
I bet that George locus, the maker of Star Wars him self doesn’t even know that😂
@jackle6255
Жыл бұрын
Luke most likely knew every form because he learned from mostly yoda
@andrebarragan1374
10 ай бұрын
Disney: yeah... i don't like it. **throws everything to the trash**
@michaelnhana
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Rey's lightsaber form: baseball.
@The_Platinum_Realist
Жыл бұрын
He also mastered form 8 Continuity Change. Which allowed him to revert back to Legends continuity so the sequel trilogy would never happen.
@Ocean_Man_
Жыл бұрын
They need to make this canon: So, Luke is about to recruit Ben in his Jedi order. One time Luke is sleeping and he gets a nightmare about seeing his Jedi order getting destroyed and him standing there, crying at the ruins. Everything then shifts to one island where he sees himself depressed, standing on a cliff and looking at his drowned X wing. He then sees Ben killing his own father with a red lightsaber and hears Leia mourning for him. He then looks at the sky and sees planets getting destroyed one by one by a new Death star-like machine. He then sees a massive fleet of Destroyers capable to destroy entire planets. In the last scene we see Luke looking at the Galaxy slowly becoming dark and red (Methapor for evil consuming it) Luke wakes up and after realising what he saw, he came to a conclusion that recruiting Ben into the order would ultimately cause its destruction and entire galaxy will fear him. Being afraid that that scenario might become true, he didnt recruit Ben into the Order because of a dream
@E.M.25
10 ай бұрын
Cool, I always wondered how he was Abel to learn so fast and take on Darth Vader
@UI_Shaggy05
Жыл бұрын
If you think Legends is better than Canon: 👇
@ash-shakirwhitaker7008
Жыл бұрын
That reminds me of Grandmaster Mace Windu who came up with his own modified version of Form Seven (if I Am not mistaken). (I think that it is called Vaapad)
@SavageGamerCA
Жыл бұрын
Rey mastered every form day one
@frenzyayushman
Күн бұрын
I was seeing ROTJ and mother saw luke and said "He became spiderman in the soiderman movie" I laughed so hard and told her that this movie was from 80s
@notfeedynotlazy
11 ай бұрын
Luke's lightsaber form was, mostly cylindrical, with some ridges
@eggsbacon1538
3 ай бұрын
I have to go to work
@theshoehorns2653
Жыл бұрын
Luke utilized plot armor.
@wolfdotzip4053
Жыл бұрын
So much plot armor that he beat vader in the empire strikes back
@blaxpoitation8528
Жыл бұрын
Plot armor: Rey has entered the chat
@randallflagg6271
Жыл бұрын
Deez Nuts have entered Rey 😅😂
@StoolGoodman
11 ай бұрын
@@blaxpoitation8528 every Star Wars character has entered the chat
@tnolton2497
Жыл бұрын
When you think about it, Anakin was also very naturally talented, so when you think about it that way it makes more sense why luke was able to beat vader after only minimal training.
@leosalonen1564
Жыл бұрын
After I thought about it, that does make sense (after I thought about it :) )!
@christopherrapczynski204
Жыл бұрын
I think its also that emotionally he had a lot of motivation, he was at the apex of his journey and his friends and the entire rebellions lives were at stake, which is why he was so aggressive. Vader meanwhile was unusually conflicted. It's not like Vader could just kill him outright because he wanted himself and Luke to rule the empire. So it was a guy with everything to lose vrs a guy who had to try to force a stalemate to get what he actually wanted
@arcticfox1108
3 ай бұрын
Considering he used forms 3, 4 and 5, that would mean he’d be skilled in Form VI, Niman, the synthesis of multiple lightsaber forms
@BLACKHEARTo6
11 ай бұрын
Coolness brother
@enzopalma5376
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video bro, you got to the point and gave details as well. Subbing for sure
@RetneysHolocron
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@aidaninsask2.0
11 ай бұрын
Grand Master Luke Is Like A Mirror Image Of Master Kenobi And Grand Master Yoda, They Trained Him Well
@DinoNerdE-750
Жыл бұрын
Incase you don’t know,BBY,DBY and ABY mean Before Battle of Yavin,During Battle of Yavin and After Battle of Yavin.
@terotolo
Жыл бұрын
"...he was able to advance his skills by utilizing his raw power.." which is exactly what Rey did..ust like every other Skywalker...
@T_The_Asogian
Жыл бұрын
Forget about Disney! Dark Horse will always be my favourite depictions of Luke in the expanded universe. T
@davidecheverria1864
Жыл бұрын
That's awesome I've been wondering that for a while now
@linyenchin6773
Жыл бұрын
Soresu = so-reh-sue not "so-ree-sue" as you pronounce it. If you went with the Japanese pronunciation(since that is obviously where these silly names are inspired from, it is a Samurai inspired swordstyle) then you must make the "u" practically silent if not fully silent, making "Soresu" sound much closer to "suh-res" and much further from your "so-ree-sue."
@Skywalkerr752
Ай бұрын
luke”i’m making my own lightsaber duel form” yoda “disapprove the jedi council does” luke”the fcking grandmaster i am”
@JAYV45_
Жыл бұрын
Basically George couldn't make his mind up. Also on the last fight with vader there's a point where he just swings with no control or anything lol
@MarioBrosJediKnightXD
Жыл бұрын
What are the lightsaber forms 1 and 2? You forgot to tell us about that. I like these lightsaber forms and names, brings more realness into Star Wars fiction fights.
@PadmeAmidala837
Жыл бұрын
"Hes simply the best better than all the rest" -TinaTurner
@ezioauditore6371
Жыл бұрын
RIP Queen Tina 😢
@PadmeAmidala837
Жыл бұрын
@@ezioauditore6371 Yes RIP 🙏
@syazwanmazli3672
7 ай бұрын
So he eventually mastered Lightsaber Form VI, Niiman which known as Jack of all Trades of the lightsaber form.
@TheCradM
11 ай бұрын
If you throw away Disneys NONSENSE… Luke is the most powerful Jedi to have EVER lived. He far surpassed Yoda, Obi, you name them, he blew them out of the water. UNQUESTIONABLY. He defeated Sith left and right yet never purposely killed them, which made him even more powerful in a weird Jedi way. If Disney used George’s scripts and legends… by the gods there’d be something worth watching. Disney money with actual star wars lore…. Pfffff getting hard thinking about it.
@PromethiaSHADOW
6 ай бұрын
Did you know that Luke Skywalker's preferred lightsaber form was actually a combination of forms 4 and 5
@chickbowdrie4750
Жыл бұрын
Random ppl: The forms are just copying off of fencing. Me: Never knew fencing involved blocking bullets and parkour flips.
@kensosaramos
Жыл бұрын
So it's either Form VIII ("Skytaker") or simplified/incomplete Form VI (Niman)
@coppertopv365
10 ай бұрын
So... really form 1,3-5 you said he started out practicing using Form 1 and if hes Using a Mix it'd include pieces of Form 1
@henrikaugustsson4041
11 ай бұрын
This is so stupid… “He uses form III to deflect blaster bolts” ANY FORM CAN DO THAT!!!!
@bradenliner7189
Жыл бұрын
Mace Windu: “You are a master in form 5 but we do not grant you the rank of master of form 5.” Anakin: “…What?… How can you do this? This is outrageous! It’s unfair! How can you be a master of form 5 and not be granted the rank of master of form 5?!” Mace Windu: “You will never be master mother f*cka now take a seat.”
@RabbiKrieg
Жыл бұрын
I mean it makes sense, Obi-Wan was considered the best form III user in his era, his padawan Anakin used Form V, which was developed by users of Form III, who considered form III too passive. And Form IV was used by Yoda and Qui-Gon.
@TheArthoron
Жыл бұрын
People think, because Lucas didn't bother to convey it, that Hyperspace Travel is instantaneous, but they were on the Falcon for days, getting to Alderaan! Tatooine is on The Rim. Alderaan is one of the Core Worlds. Lucas just didn't bother to show the tedium of a multiday journey in a 2 hour film. So when Hand Leia had to fly on sunlight engines from near Hoth to Bespin, even if they were within the same Star System, it took months to fly there! So Luke had months with Master Yoda, if not years of relative time!
@terrorwolf5598
9 ай бұрын
This is why Luke would beat Anakin cause Luke has mastery of 3,4, and 5 while Anakin only mastered 5
@kieranlock3070
7 ай бұрын
So he was like Rey then? Akso isn't forms 1,3,4,5 the basics of Niman, the 6th form?
@coolcaleb9939
9 ай бұрын
Obi wan also used soresu
@Griff287
8 ай бұрын
I still resent anybody that says Luke is the strongest Jedi. I feel that nearly any night or master in the council /order could pretty easily annihilate him at his peak. I'm sure he's excellent at research, and props for tracking everything down without good sources. Sources. But how could he possibly go up against a highly trained Jedi that was in the order since they were an infant and have seen countless victories in battle throughout the clone. Wars? Simply doesn't make sense that a farm boy who really puts in the work can surpass them that easily.
@michaelbarker6732
Жыл бұрын
Wow if he had proper full training from when he was a kid he would be insanely strong. Maybe even stronger than Rey sKyWaLkEr
@NasTalkz
Жыл бұрын
Forms 3,4,5 are what most people use when you give them a stick and pretend sword fight with them, being on the defensive, jumping out of the way and pressing on the attack when the moment is right. By all this I mean they’re the most ideal forms. My friends don’t know I’m a major star wars nerd.
@davidchase9424
11 ай бұрын
Luke actually had struggles and hardships he had to over come to get to the next level of mastery in his life. Which is why we loved the character, cheers him on with our hearts, and were glued to the screen to see what was going to happen next. Rich, spoiled, privileged writers, producers, and directors have trouble understanding that concept. I can't imagine why.
@StoolGoodman
11 ай бұрын
Ayo didn't Rey endure a series of mental challenges upon touching an f-ing lightsaber which reminded her of traumatic memories, all of that happening after her friend told her everything she knew about him was a lie? Also don't forget the part where she was captured and tortured by Kylo Ren. Oh yea and her being slammed into a tree head first knocking her out. Then she only (barely) beats Kylo who is wounded immensely by Chewbaccas bowcaster Doesn't she then endure another series of mental challenges regarding her parents and is then told that they just sold her for drinking money? Doesn't she get completely knocked out by a ship ramming into the ship she and Kylo where in? Doesn't she then have to endure more stress as Palpatine returns and she keeps fighting with Kylo? And then Doesn't she get nearly all of her life energy sucked out of her? Doesn't she then die whilst defeating Palpatine (and only with the aid of every single jedi) and then have only moments to spend with a redeemed Ben before he dies? Ah yes, Mary Sue right here folks
@davidchase9424
11 ай бұрын
@@StoolGoodman Yeah. Kyle leered at her and she cried "rape". Kyle didn't "man splain" anything too her or they would have had to make the movie "Rated R". Luke got blown out of a window, and then got his hand chopped off all after finding out Darth Vader was his father. Rey's character arch was like looking out over the horizon...slight. Nothing compared to the originals. But conveniently very Gen Z. I give them that.
@davidchase9424
11 ай бұрын
@@StoolGoodman BTW, is Disney paying you? Because you should get paid as part if KK's PR/propaganda team.
@StoolGoodman
11 ай бұрын
@@davidchase9424 least delusional sequel hater
@davidchase9424
11 ай бұрын
@@StoolGoodman Ah..thank you? I think it had tremendous potential. The actors were great but the writing, plot, and concepts fell WAY short. And I feel there is no excuse for that. The hardest part was creating it, making it work, and getting it right...and they did! Yeah, there were ups and downs BUT...they learned from their mistakes, adapted the corrections, and make an overall better product. I believe KK pushed an agenda over delivering a solid, well balanced product. And they let her do it, and keep doing it! And it shows. Mountains of Star Wars mech unsold and trashed. Disney stock taking a nose dive and the company losing billions. Look. I want good Star Wars. I've the books and comic book of the EU and IT'S AWESOME. So...maybe they'll get that righd? Yuk
@Lockn3s5
11 ай бұрын
It's a nice expansion of lore but lightsaber forms weren't created by Lucas during the original trilogy. Mark Hamill is just swinging a stick with not much forethought. To say he mastered various lightsaber forms during the original trilogy is just comical as there is nothing to suggest Luke is doing anything differently. His stance doesn't change and he holds the lightsaber the same way in each film. there is nothing to distinguish each form you mentioned.
@AA-db9cb
3 ай бұрын
More importantly, what was his milk suckling form?
@taasch2505
7 ай бұрын
When Luke was above the Sarlaac pit he was using Shien, not Soresu. This has already been confirmed in multiple media sources and by his use of blast redirection and advancement its made very clear he used Shien.
@TempleTips.
Жыл бұрын
The “forms” are completely bullshit bro come on. Jedi don’t even fight with lightsabers correctly because they are blades with infinite edges and little to no weight or force required for cutting. There are no forms, the filmmakers just choreographed them to fight while looking as cool as possible
@astrobat1638
Жыл бұрын
And the sequel trilogy doesn't even gaf about forms. Rey just swings once or twice and Palpatine dies in seconds. smh
@BLACKDADDY101
Жыл бұрын
Just to clarify Anakin was the chosen one and Luke was the strongest Jedi. The only reason why this is so because Anakin destroyed the already becoming corrupt Jedi system and at the end ended Palpatine with Luke. Luke was far stronger though being able to manipulate the force itself, like black holes
@dkim0104
7 ай бұрын
Pffft. Now all you have to be is be a female and you’re automatically a grand master of everything in the Star Wars universe.
@yoloswaggins5385
Жыл бұрын
I remember reading that he picked up on form five after the first battle with vader in empire strikes back so i imagine that old ben kenobi taight luke 1 and 3 and yoda helped progress those as well as showed him form 4 ataru or at least the basics and adding the acrobatics and force enhancing speed jumps and strikes. Then after picking up form five from the first duel with vader he probably learned the rest of that in the time between making him pretty formidable. But not only that but if he did pickup form five from fighting vadar in empire strikes back it wouldve been darth vaders new hybrid form five which implemented forms 2 and 3 into his djem so that he got from dooku and obi wan. He added these into his hybrid style to shore up his weaknesses and lack of mobility from being in the suit since he couldnt move as well and couldnt use all of his form five the way he used to but some pros vader gained from the cybernetics super enhanced his natural strength he also used some juyo at times with his hybrid form five enhaced by the dark side of the force so his form five hyrvrid was really form five with 2,3, and 7 added in. Darth vader learned from his defeat on mustafar and on geonisis and adopted the forms of masters dooku and obi wan to cover his weaknesses and added to his power of form five with the dark side and 7 juyo to make the ultimate lightsaber form for his situation in his suit. Anyway if luke picked up on this form five he really picked up almost everything really besides shien and niman but niman is jack of all trades form of everything before it besides two i think and also includes dual bladed saber fighting and jarkai styles. But yeah other then niman jarkai and shien luke litterally learned at least some aslects of all the form after that first fight and im sure yoda helped cement those. So when he fought vader he used his own hybrid form 5 but instead of 5,2,3, and 7… it was probably 5,1,3 and 4 which is still badass a hybrid in its own right! I think if it was me id use a shien heavy niman and try to learn vaapad and have a djem so vaapad hybrid as a secondary and my wife would be an ataru/makashi hybrid like shaak ti. Another good hybrid was plo koon he predominantly used form five shien but he used both djem so and shien but he would mix form five with ataru and the shien/ataru hybrid allowed him to best yoda once in a sparring session lightsaber duel
@wanderer1125
11 ай бұрын
Rey Skywalker mastered all forms by imagining it through the force
@nickk3403
9 ай бұрын
We should have gotten the Luke of mandolorean versus the garbage sequels. A powerful Jedi master not some hermit
@michaell6645
Жыл бұрын
Form 5 is weak against skilled Jedi’s I would think. Wasn’t it developed to kill droids and deflect blasters?
@adisonsichampanakhone1070
7 ай бұрын
He used the form of the movie came out in the 70’s and they really didn’t exactly know what the form was.
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