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@ALLELITEMUSICOFFICIAL
Жыл бұрын
We own a TLM103 and a U87 in our studio for many years. Many people forgot about the Art of recording and the Art of Microphone Knowledge. Biggest mistake we always see is that people compare DIFFERENT Microphones in the exact SAME position. EVERY Microphone got a DIFFERENT sweet spot, it might not be a big difference, but before you test two or more microphones against eachother, you have to find out in which position and with which preamp (not every chain works with every mic the same way!) each microphone sounds THE BEST. Only that way you can get a fair comparison. The K103 is actually the front side of the K87 and the capsule is responsible for 70-90% of the sound. Since the capsules are close to be similar the sound shouldn't be too far away. And surprise, it isn't. If you bring the TLM103 in its sweet spot its NEVER harsh or anything like this. People hating on the TLM103 and loving the sound of the U87 know nothing about the true Art of Recording. Also its very important to mention that the output transformer of the U87Ai is extremely transparent and neutral. So no matter with which microphone your going, you will get GREAT results as long as you got a great Talent infront of the microphone and a engineer who knows what he's doing.
@monikazaremba2726
Жыл бұрын
Thanx! That's the best comnent I've read on this topic :-)
@j.g.195
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@vidavieira1595
Жыл бұрын
Perfect coment
@newman2374
10 ай бұрын
all 3 sounds bad on your output sorry
@maxkilluminati8278
2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm crazy but the U87 just sounds more realistic, not so bright but more normal
@who_is_dis
Жыл бұрын
You're not crazy at all 😂 There's a reason it was the studio standard for so long. I do like the tone of the 103 too though.
@MarceloDonadello
Жыл бұрын
For me, mids are better presented in TLM102 than 103 (and I have a 103!). 102 sounds closer to 87. Thanks for your video, Saludos
@larrybentleymusic
Жыл бұрын
I’ve used a U87 for a good bit of years now but my new favorite Neumann is the TLM 49. Love the sound that it gives
@gaborb6577
2 жыл бұрын
Next time you got a 3000 USD mic in your hand please call a female singer, and also a bass singer where the differences might be more decisive. Thanks for Sweetwater
@Irshaad88
2 жыл бұрын
Just got my tlm 103 and I'm in love ❤️
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@werty7298
2 жыл бұрын
are you using focusetie audio card or something else?
@Irshaad88
2 жыл бұрын
Universal Audio Apollo x4
@QuantumGamingUploads
Жыл бұрын
@@Irshaad88 do you have a treated environment? I tried the tlm 103 on a non treated environment and lots of noise. The tlm 102 was more forgiving.
@Irshaad88
Жыл бұрын
I have a treated space. I don't thinks it's the wisest move to invest in a mic of this tier without investing in a treated space. IMO I've heard great sound through the tlm102 👍
@pedaltasters380
2 жыл бұрын
The U 87 is an incredible microphone... but for $3695 (price at the time of this post) you can get a Neumann TLM 107, a Neumann KM 184, a Royer R-121 and a Shure sm57 all for a grand total of $3693 and cover A LOT of bases with those mics!
@castleman170
2 жыл бұрын
I have recorded vocals with a tlm 103 and tlm 193 in a professional studio with excellent results. It all depends on the type of voice and what preamp you have to get the best out of them. I currently have a tlm 102 in my homestudio connected to a preamp pre-q 73 and it sounds great. After all, any neumann microphone is synonymous with quality.
@Kay_Locc
2 жыл бұрын
Do u think the tlm 102 is worth upgrading to from a rode nt1-a? I want the tlm 102 but only if it’ll be a significant from the rode
@castleman170
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kay_Locc Tlm 102 is a good investment, I have 5 years using it and it works perfectly, it is very versatile with a sound rich in bass and treble. I've recorded with the NT1 rode in a friend's studio and I feel like it's very wheezing. I recommend that you see more reviews and information of the tlm 102 if you want to buy it, so that you can decide for yourself if it’s convenient for you to get it.
@vannmensa
2 жыл бұрын
these Neumann microphones sound great. dope content as usual
@PeteSchmidt
2 жыл бұрын
They are all great.. I have the TLM 103 and its been great! I also have the L22 Townsend labs.. all great and you can record great things with all of them!!!!
@Andre_Ang
2 жыл бұрын
I swear u can never go wrong with a neumann mic bro !!🔥 Love the content like usual!!!
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@minusx31
2 жыл бұрын
You can go wrong if your voice isnt a match…like mine isn’t…
@Andre_Ang
2 жыл бұрын
@@minusx31 is ur mic a neumann? If it is then a little bit of EQ will help :)
@minusx31
2 жыл бұрын
@@Andre_Ang It was…sold it…preferred the tone of my AT4050 over my previous TLM49, 103 and 102…it had great clarity but to me for hip hop it was too clear…my AT4050 after some EQ mixed and sounded overall more pleasing to me…but we all like different things…that’s why it’s different mic brands and models…
@Jisooee
2 жыл бұрын
SUCH A HIGH QUALITY VIDEO🤯
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@RandNMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Edward : Which Neumann Microphone Should You Buy? me : non cause I'm broke 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean 😂🙈
@ivomartijn7400
Жыл бұрын
For singing, the U87 is king. That's what it was designed for. For spoken word, for the same price: the TLM170 is usually better. The 103 is actually somewhat nasal sounding. And if you consider the 102 for voice, you could do your wallet a favor and compare it to an Audio-Technica AT-2035. You may not be able to tell the difference.
@BobMcCarroll
2 жыл бұрын
You missed the TLM 107 - which is an amazing microphone. I would have loved to have you include this mic in your evaluation. It offers 5 polar patterns, a high pass filter and a 3 pad variance and has a price point between the 103 and U87. Just a thought. .
@cruisingfanatic
Жыл бұрын
I love my TLM 102 only used for mini radio shows on tiktok sounds great ... nice review
@racheloshaksmusic
Жыл бұрын
This is so good and I love that you left all the links in the bio because I was just about to ask where you got the pop filter from. Thank you ! ❤️ I look forward to the TLM 103
@EdwardSmithMusic
Жыл бұрын
Here is a link - amzn.to/41NqPdZ
@racheloshaksmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@EdwardSmithMusic don't worry Edward I got it already when I saw this video 2 months ago! It's great and sturdy and I think it was shipped all the way from America to the UK. God bless you in Jesus name, lots of love.
@user-vk5fi6hh1r
2 жыл бұрын
You deserve 1M this year mate
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@QuantumGamingUploads
2 жыл бұрын
Love the tlm 102 for the price.
@skymartinent
2 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the TLM 193 because it is the most versatile, flat, and true to sound Neumann that there is. Modern, flat, clean Neumann sound= TLM 193
@Jisooee
2 жыл бұрын
102 sounds a bit harsh compared to those 2.. but it's sounds far way superb compared to others brands
@gaborb6577
2 жыл бұрын
I have the same impression. I would buy 103 for your voice and a generic smarthphone speaker listening
@gaborb6577
2 жыл бұрын
Correction (based on a decent headset). U87 is distinguishable by including small details.
@kizu5234
Жыл бұрын
I love the high frequency Crystal sound of the microphones but I’m on a budget 😭
@SVLAZVR
Жыл бұрын
The tlm 102 did the job right for your voice bro
@mistara1
2 жыл бұрын
You are imitating modern singing and not singing with your own voice, which can be heard when you are talking normally. This vocal technique makes most new singers sound the same ... That's not what music is supposed to be. It is meant to show diversity of timbre, because everybody's voice is different and not the same! This is rediculous!
@sheldoncharlot
Жыл бұрын
this is literally his raw voice
@henrikpetersson3463
Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Lauten Atlantis over the U87 Ai at a much lower price. But it is a nice mic. I felt that the TLM102 sounded much more processed than the other ones in your example. There is usually not that big of a difference between the 102 and 103 from my experience.
@zachpitt9249
2 жыл бұрын
You sing amazing man
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! 🙏🏻
@gaborb6577
2 жыл бұрын
Spotify link please for the song (your nice singing and guitar please please)
@salliemorrill2671
Жыл бұрын
Edward, thank you for reviewing all three of the Neumens! Beautiful pieces of work. My question, though, applies to the 87: aren't they supplying the preamp with the mic, or do you have to buy that separately? For almost $4,000, you would think they would give that preamp to you as well. Thank you for your videos! God bless.
@EdwardSmithMusic
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks For Watching! Unfortunerly it doesn't come with the pre-amp, but I feel your pain.
@zeitakulobusta
2 жыл бұрын
'D/ None of the above' is a perfectly valid, indeed valuable answer.
@enaminmusic8184
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very good review!💝
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@DawahProject
2 ай бұрын
What exactly accessories do you mean in case of u87Ai?
@FJness
Жыл бұрын
that was sick editing on the shootout wow
@roberttakatsu3926
11 ай бұрын
It's really a confidence thing not a quality thing. I've used that 103 for many things , vocal,amps, even bass drum. When it's the best mic you have you try it everywhere
@flavormusic523
2 жыл бұрын
the tlm 103 i liked the best. :) more open sounding and capture more of the voice and has more clearity on the top. The tlm 103 was best.
@danebono7667
2 жыл бұрын
All three are great mics which have their uses. The 102 has the steepest roll off, which isn't a bad thing if you would typically cut the low end on the source. The 103 has a noticeable rise between 3-6kHz. It'll make the source stand out a bit more, BUT can make some sources sound harsh and strident. The U87 is legendary. The 87ai maybe lacks a little bit of the original's mojo, BUT is still a great mic.
@HarvinderSingh-yy8th
Жыл бұрын
QQ
@christophermonk4879
Жыл бұрын
The vintage u87 has a bump at 8k compared to the new u87ai which has the bump at 10k. 🎉
@alexandergritsyna6418
2 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual
@meldmagic
2 жыл бұрын
🤠 I would get the multi-pattern 107.
@ronaldcarmona698
Жыл бұрын
Question: What kind of mixer are you using with these microphones? I am just learning to record my own songs and need to know what kind of recording equipment to use to capture the sound quality of these microphones. Thank you for your advice. 🎸🎙
@mr.everbless2721
Жыл бұрын
Amazing review boss Thus example is 🔥🔥🔥
@rubenalonsoviguerassalazar1539
Жыл бұрын
Love your test. Saludos desde Chile. Greetings from Chile.
@jesusflores2121
2 жыл бұрын
U87 is a better vocal mic, a better mic in general, but better for richer voices. If you sing and the frequencies in your vocal range are mainly in the upper register, then you might as well stick with the 103. Unless, you just can't do that and 102 is the best fit for your budget. All are great mics with that exclusive Neumann sound.
@jesusflores2121
Жыл бұрын
Above? You mean reply, or am I missing something?
@mycreations4527
Жыл бұрын
Ngl they all sound more less the same, microphones could only sound so good. I have a Shure 55SH Series 2 and it offers flawless crispy recording. For $250
@shawnburge4978
Жыл бұрын
keep going brother!
@TheRahul525
Жыл бұрын
Lots of love from India
@Jisooee
2 жыл бұрын
road to 100k!!
@yungskitzo661
Жыл бұрын
People are going to buy the tlm 103 because you showed Billie eilish
@sreed7687
Жыл бұрын
I love your videos bro; I’m in the market for my first mic and I was wondering what did you think about the Sony c80 vs the 102 for rap/r&b vocals?
@philwhite1897
Жыл бұрын
Which Neumann you should buy? A Gefell of course!
@prod_by_gabe9972
2 жыл бұрын
damn i didn't know you could sing like that bro! The U87 sounds best but the 103 is honestly pretty close to me. I would be happy using any of the the above though tbh
@MAC_DAD
2 ай бұрын
very informative
@APaclin
Жыл бұрын
"Used by some of most successful artists of our generation". Which is just Billie Eilish 😂
@akg.69
Ай бұрын
Which mic did you use for voiceover of this video?
@nkosilathidube3627
10 ай бұрын
I useally HATE 102 but it actually sounds good on your voice
@omibestbeatz2591
2 жыл бұрын
Great mic review...
@LTDusersince99
Жыл бұрын
why is the voice not mono???? it's stronger on the right sight and sibilant???
@christophercorgan630
Жыл бұрын
What interface are you using? Preamps?
@choppafantastic9602
2 жыл бұрын
i prefer 103
@photronic
Жыл бұрын
Cool vid, but U87 "released in 1986? -- I think you'll find it is more like 1967
@spyar3788
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for arabic translate ❤️
@EdwardSmithMusic
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@rodneyphill5876
Жыл бұрын
103 was the best
@whistlebirdproductions6249
7 ай бұрын
102 is best for your voice
@user-oq6db6vr8k
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jayfacultymusic
2 жыл бұрын
Buying none, cus nigga broke 😄 Much love from Ghana 🇬🇭
@kuta3953
Жыл бұрын
102 sound da best
@Irina_Romashka_gitaraaa
2 жыл бұрын
👋👋👋☺️👍Спасибо за обзоры. Пробовала в магазине 102 и мне он не понравился, он был очень тихий.
@reallyoldcob
Жыл бұрын
lol why are the vocals panned to the left
@aldowhite
2 жыл бұрын
102 sounds too harsh, u87 sounds incredibly warm and detailed., 103 does not sound that harsh, but also does not sound that warm and detailed. I think the champ is the 103 in terms of bang for your buck
@QuantumGamingUploads
2 жыл бұрын
Tlm 102 is better on instruments. Tlm 103 is better at vocals. Tlm 103 can't match the 102 on Instruments especially on a accoustic guitar. The U87 is a studio mic if you want the Hit sound.
@IanJamesBeats
2 жыл бұрын
102 sounded smoother to me. The 103 has a huge boost in the highs that I can’t stand.
@youngjb94
2 жыл бұрын
@@IanJamesBeats same, I literally just sent my tlm 103 back to sweetwater cause it was to harsh compared to my tlm 102, I like the 103 but my vocals sound better with the 102 most of the time
@kevinobriensongs
2 жыл бұрын
@@youngjb94 I've got the two TLM microphones, but I prefer my vocals on the 102 as well, thanks.
@arash5550
2 жыл бұрын
102 is as detailed as u87. Don't lie
@jamesnortonofficial1566
2 жыл бұрын
87 is king
@Benixel
2 жыл бұрын
Even hear the difference through my Mac speakers
@tuneunleashed
2 жыл бұрын
Mojave 201 FET I would recommend this mix to anyone
@TsosmiLosGizmoXou
5 ай бұрын
whitch voice type do you belong to? tenor?
@chazbutcher
2 ай бұрын
Cloise?
@djicy2cold
Жыл бұрын
I don’t see the price justification
@lionheartroar3104
Жыл бұрын
Buy all of them.
@thedome765
2 жыл бұрын
Eyy what about the 107??
@ParkerCharlesGabriel
2 жыл бұрын
Where did you find a TLM 103 for $,1000?!?
@jaywilz9157
Жыл бұрын
TLm 103 sounds better
@markpeters2317
2 жыл бұрын
Let's assume you have a well-treated vocal booth and a great signal chain with, say, a 1073 and clean converter: TLM 102 sounds good with good singers and COULD be the mic for you. this is the best bang for your buck with Neumanns. You get incredible value packed into a tiny package, and it's tailored for vocal recording. something to keep in mind if you're only looking to record vocals and voiceover. TLM 103 sounds better with the right singer. Again, this could be perfect for you. This is also where the law of diminishing returns starts to work against you as the buyer. U87ai sounds good on everything. Good... but not the "best". Though, this mic will definitely be more of an all around workhorse, whether it's drums & percussion, amps, pianos, rooms, or vocals, the U87 will be good. but NOT the best for everything. As far as bang for your buck goes, you have to be at a certain point in your professional career for this investment to make sense. If you want the best mic, test all three, and test as many mics at as many different price points as possible. I recommend testing Neumann LDC's next to similar spec mics from Mojave, Soyuz, Shoeps, and Microtech Gefell. If you are a producer.. and you want a mic that can be used to record anything, and I mean ANYTHING, then you can't go wrong with a U87. They are very consistent and you'll never have an issue making it "work". However, if you're interested in catering the sound per instrument, per singer, per song, and.. if "flavor" or "color" have ever crossed your mind... you'll always need a locker with more than one high quality mic.
@BennyParcher
2 жыл бұрын
Are you using a pre amp or audio interface
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Only used an audio interface for this test
@neonyves
Жыл бұрын
so if you have a Neumann you're already doing well
@ronnyskaar3737
Жыл бұрын
U87 was released in 1967.
@AJayTheDogg
Жыл бұрын
I got my 103 for $800 No need for the 102
@johannmuster9726
Жыл бұрын
The u87 is 2300.- CHF here in swizerland and CHF is almost exactly the same course like the dollar. The u87 is way better than the tlm 103 or 102 than people tell in their YT-videos. If you put the 103 in a 2500.- preamp it may sounds good enough but otherwise you still have to mix alot while the u87 almost sits perfect in the mix even in an unprofessional room, you just record and it sounds like mixed already. For Billy the 103 is good enough because she sings reallly softly, even cheaper mics sound professional if you just talk or sing softly.
@sevchyk
2 жыл бұрын
3:32 Here starts the reason why everybody clicked on this video.
@newage5d831
2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 150 euro Rhode instead... And never looked back
@HabibiTommy98
2 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the pop killer?
@sgeggbub1008
2 жыл бұрын
the popfilter? a bit of foam
@HabibiTommy98
2 жыл бұрын
@@sgeggbub1008 yeah, but this one has a specific name 😂
@sgeggbub1008
2 жыл бұрын
@@HabibiTommy98 hmm, are you wanting to buy one? There is really no distinguishable sound difference between that and a normal one, it doesn’t seem like he linked it
@EdwardSmithMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Here is a link - amzn.to/41NqPdZ
@CRoweMusic
2 жыл бұрын
No point of buying the U87. The 103 is the exact same quality
@jesusflores2121
2 жыл бұрын
He is sooo wrong in that there is a definite vocal difference in the 102 to the 103. IMO his voice sounds much better using the 103 than the 102. BIG mistake on his part.
@sgeggbub1008
2 жыл бұрын
its the same bro, dont be victim to placebo
@jesusflores2121
2 жыл бұрын
@@sgeggbub1008 It's literally not. The frequency response is literally different, the capsule is literally bigger, and I don't know what you are listening on but it definitely sounds different than the 102. They are similar, but there is a definite difference. Uh, oh yeah, Bro!(?) 🙄
@urbnctrl
2 жыл бұрын
Tlm102 is more crisp in the high while the 103 clearly allows for more air and low end frequencies. The difference is marginal but for professional productions it definitely gives the edge to the 103. 102 however is amazing bang for the bucks
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