I'll be going with 4-2-0's moving forward, especially in BTDB2. #angrysub
@batscove
2 жыл бұрын
#angrysub (that made me a happy sub ;))
@yellowsh4rk
2 жыл бұрын
i still cant wait for either reactor nerf or shimmer/ice top path buff. i only play btdb2 didnt play btd6 yet and not really planning to
@user-rd2on3yg7w
2 жыл бұрын
heh 420 😏
@rubenbooker6823
2 жыл бұрын
It's too bad that it doesn't passively pop leads anymore but it was a very strong tower path so I this this rework makes it a bit more balanced and encourages experimenting with different combos to see what works best
@fbismostwantedbean8195
2 жыл бұрын
#angrysub
@hejhejaske
2 жыл бұрын
For energizer, 502 is always better. 520 gives it only 1050 pierce (compared to 1000 pierce at 5-0-0), while the bottom path gives it that 57% dps increase
@David_TheSuperior
2 жыл бұрын
I think max pierce for Energizer has been cut off in a recent patch
@abhinandhari7812
2 жыл бұрын
Why would u reply on the dps of the energizer in the first place hehe
@hejhejaske
2 жыл бұрын
@@David_TheSuperior nah they silent nerfed the 520 pierce drom 1500 to 1050
@hejhejaske
2 жыл бұрын
@@abhinandhari7812 well it has a max of 6-7k dpi which isn’t bad at all
@lancetheking7524
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeniakustik-5229 go talk about sex in pornhub not a video about monke popping bloons
@Nexit1337
2 жыл бұрын
gotta love they had to nerf the sub to NOT pop leads unless you went middle path to make people actually pick middle instead to 4/0/2 all the time
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
True
@Shikanokolol
2 жыл бұрын
Then again, why would you need lead popping when you can have a cannon, village, ?-?-2 boomerang, etc...
@marallenrondez2606
2 жыл бұрын
@@Shikanokolol The lead popping power in previous versions are pretty niche in most strategies but it pretty much guaranteed no problems with leads whatsoever. The new crosspathing updates made the reactor more strategic now since you have to choose a crosspath depending on the situation.
@thunderlucas8923
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it doesn't stack because its similar to glue, its a status effect instead of direct damage (bloons also glow when in radius)
@sirludicrous7823
2 жыл бұрын
Could also be that its an aura and maybe auras simply cant stack 🤔
@TheMirksta
2 жыл бұрын
@@sirludicrous7823 That's the same as the original commenter said; the bloon is either in a Reactor aura or not, and if it is, then it takes the constant damage from the status effect.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is probably it. Nk had never confirmed though (according to the wiki)
@squiddler7731
2 жыл бұрын
Not pictured in the video: the angry sub has a red radiation effect instead of green that was patched in like the day of, and the look of it almost makes the loss in attack speed worth it.
@creppersaurusrex2300
2 жыл бұрын
Now if only mods didn't put you in the flaglist this should be the type of thing that would be perfect to mod
@LeeTheSecond
2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Bloontonium Reactors do stack in BTDB2? Stacking about 5 of them kills a MOAB in Mayan.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Huh, the more you know
@hobomike6935
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. The top path is actually worth getting if this is true.
@holyghost_963
2 жыл бұрын
I never realised that the crosspaths do anything, I've always just used 4-0-0 subs. Good thing to know
@_rushr
2 жыл бұрын
I never realized that 4-2-0 did anything, I thought reactor could already pop lead
@werigubskdjgb
2 жыл бұрын
@@_rushr It could until the last patch
@topzero1113
2 жыл бұрын
@@_rushr I'm pretty sure it got nerfed this patch, and now you absolutely need 4-2-0 Reactor to pop lead. It used to be able to pop lead without middle crosspath...
@rein_k.
2 жыл бұрын
@Shadow you still have the older version, go to play/app/steam and update it first
@landonsur8059
2 жыл бұрын
@@rein_k. learn english shadow said could not can
@edward870
2 жыл бұрын
Miss the 402 that could pop lead
@VanTran-ye6qb
2 жыл бұрын
it not pop lead now sad noise
@sunbleachedangel
2 жыл бұрын
Such a stupid change
@kozolith2121
2 жыл бұрын
@@sunbleachedangel whats stupid is radiation popping lead, that makes zero sense, also, this makes it so there's actually a point to go mid crosspath instead of making mid crosspath completely useless
@jklusky2425
2 жыл бұрын
@@kozolith2121 you are playing a game about monkeys killing balloons with lasers, boomerangs and nukes but radiation popping leads is unrealistic?
@kozolith2121
2 жыл бұрын
@@jklusky2425 fair, but still, its not necessarily a stupid change
@phmeeeeeeeee
2 жыл бұрын
You should talk about top path Glue Gunners, I've always assumed that glue splatter is the better crosspath, but I always see people playing bottom path as the crosspath
@kozolith2121
2 жыл бұрын
iirc people do that because tier 5 top path glue gunner has tons of pierce already so usually stronger glue is better, but I think that if its not tier 5 mid path is better
@manuelroger1035
2 жыл бұрын
It's because at tier 5 he can cover 20 bloons by himself without any crosspath, so the middle path doesn't have much more effect on it
@stuffedcrustpizza6659
2 жыл бұрын
5xx Glue Gunners has 12 pierce. 520 only adds an additional +8 or so pierce which isn’t a lot considering that the 5xx gets an attack speed buff. 502 is often better due to its slow on Super Ceramics. However 520 shines in Races and/or Challenges.
@ShiaTheBunnyGirl
2 жыл бұрын
For anything below tier 4, glue splatter is always better. But for a tier 5 or already has 10 pierce, so the bottom path keeps the glue longer and deals more damage.
@ShiaTheBunnyGirl
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeniakustik-5229 nobody asked
@Nutellla
2 жыл бұрын
I didnt even know that the other upgrades even work with the reactor, i thought they do nothing because its submerged
@trentschippers5101
2 жыл бұрын
Same! My mind has been blown..
@Bards.98
2 жыл бұрын
It's written on the upgrade tho!
@harioschtroliki
2 жыл бұрын
Have you read the description of the upgrades?
@sunbleachedangel
2 жыл бұрын
They used to do nothing but now they do
@manuelroger1035
2 жыл бұрын
@@sunbleachedangel they always did
@epicnoodles9981
2 жыл бұрын
1:15 I think the reactor mark bloons in its own range making the one singular reactor the onlly reactor that is able to attack it, you can see the effect with the green outlined bloons
@eee270
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that you look at it in btd6 and btdb2 in the same video. You should definitely continue this approach
@hduagvoe1764
2 жыл бұрын
K, been wondering about this for a while now, thanks!
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@SenyiKimmo
2 жыл бұрын
This might be a stretch but I think the mechanic behind preventing reactor damage from stacking is that each reactor's "attack" applies a status to bloons and only one of those can apply at a time.
@donkylefernandez4680
2 жыл бұрын
spoken like an rpg player... what genre do play? *sus eyes*
@SenyiKimmo
2 жыл бұрын
@@donkylefernandez4680 RTS actually
@tbush6657
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it's a sort of reskin of corossive glue. Instead of getting covered in glue, they glow green and aren't slowed down.
@niklasscholl4362
Жыл бұрын
thanks was quick and comprehensive🤝
@MutantDestroyer
2 жыл бұрын
4-0-2 sub was always my go to tower, but now... im just gonna buy an MIB lol
@rein_k.
2 жыл бұрын
What is MIB, i forget.
@Patkall
2 жыл бұрын
@@rein_k. x-3-x village.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@waltergoodman1652
2 жыл бұрын
I love the new Editing Style
@cyborgbob1017
Жыл бұрын
Actually 400 is already enough to decamo ddts all the way up to round 251(tho it could go way higher, it didn’t show any signs of stopping), so, if you wanna save money or don’t want the sub to get pops, go for a 302; if you get the most out of your sub and have it pull it’s weight, go for a 420.
@krimson5736
Жыл бұрын
Ngl in my *TWO* years of poping bloons this is the first time I ever seen a 4( or 5 ) 0 2 sub
@poui9
2 жыл бұрын
It finally comes
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
It's about time
@stuffedcrustpizza6659
2 жыл бұрын
How come your 420 Reactor circle isn’t tinted with red? I’d assume you recorded those clips before 29.0 or something else.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I made this video before the update and had to change the audio when 29.0 came out
@weegeelinguini3704
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, your sub is named captain Morgan, that's awesome
@PorygonToast
2 жыл бұрын
“420 is often the better option” Alchemist: *allow me to introduce myself*
@notborkboi
2 жыл бұрын
I didnt know that 4-2-0 could pop leads, I always stopped uprgrading it after 4-0-0. Very handy tip
@Swordkid669
Жыл бұрын
I love these amazing videos 🔥
@boreddoggo1116
2 жыл бұрын
Woooow, I didnt know crosspathing it actually does anything, I just went "angry sub" and bam xD
@Luna34186
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Can you compare 2-3-0 and 0-3-2 alchemist next?
@jimothy7665
2 жыл бұрын
The reactor sub attack is technically shatter. Idk I forgot about the entire existence of shatter types and also just frozen bloons in general
@webbowser8834
2 жыл бұрын
it's actually shatter damage like spike a pult. This means it can pop frozen bloons, but not lead.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's really cool that it's shatter because lead is used to shield radiation irl
@magica3526
2 жыл бұрын
i like how you recorded the footage before the update, and why did you barely mention lead popping power
@autonomous8108
2 жыл бұрын
Aside from it's inability to take out lead bloons, 502 is the best in my opinion. I usually just have a 520 sitting before my 502 just to get that first layer of lead off
@cheesefart570
2 жыл бұрын
What in the hell They made the reactor no longer hit lead Kinda unexpected
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty cool because lead is used for shielding radiation IRL
@cheesefart570
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hbomb that... Actually makes alot of sense now Thank you hbob
@BasedBelkan8492
2 жыл бұрын
damn the edits are clean
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I got an editor for this one
@iron2291
2 жыл бұрын
I've actually used angry sub a few times once the last update. Feels weird man.
@swampcooler8332
2 жыл бұрын
Stacking subs may not increase damage output, but does effectively increase the pierce if you happen to need that for battles or on some weird challenge, so dont count it out just yet
@IcePho
2 жыл бұрын
On battles 2, you can stack it to where they obliterate noabs.
@swampcooler8332
2 жыл бұрын
@@IcePho ah and here I was just placing 1
@AdroSlice
2 жыл бұрын
4-2-0 if you're playing battles, hands down. Alch buff pairs very nicely with it too.
@bluewatergamingromania.m
2 жыл бұрын
On btd battles is not exist botton upgrades path is only middle and top and is not exist alc only on btd battles 2 and btd 6 it is.
@poyloos4834
2 жыл бұрын
They really needed to do this. It was a little too powerful to just “turn off” camo for the rest of the game AND leads, while stil exceling against anything short of a ceram
@maverickfrost1566
2 жыл бұрын
I normally always go 4-0-2, cause i thought it was just better, thank you for the information, very helpful!
@tysonvienneau1830
2 жыл бұрын
Remember when you could just use the top and nothing else for full potential? I'm old enough to know that
@theasianthatsbetterthanyou8324
2 жыл бұрын
I love how so many people write assertive comments about 400 sub being able to pop lead without reading the patch notes.
@robertverburg8262
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I was wondering if you could go over the cross paths for the GlaiveLord? Keep up the good work!
@robertverburg8262
2 жыл бұрын
@Shadow gotcha, thanks!
@CarmenLC
2 жыл бұрын
They also made the passive glaives radius larger with 501
@landonsur8059
2 жыл бұрын
@@CarmenLC and red obiting glaives
@t___m
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I always thought that the crosspaths are useless for 5xx sub, because it would only apply to it's dart attack. I guess, I've been enlighted.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they don't list it in game very well, but the crosspaths are good
@wilavg
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it didn't matter for the middle crosspath, but the game tells you the bottom one enhances the reactor.
@RonZhang
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, red reactor.
@rigandigy2329
2 жыл бұрын
I tested it out not too long ago, both cross paths were able to pop the lead Bloons
@ShadY94TV
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they changed it in the last patch cuz almost nobody used 420. Now that 402 doesnt pop lead anymore you rly have to choose the right crosspath for you or go for 402 with a MIB
@rigandigy2329
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadY94TV I'm probably gonna go with a mib lol. That extra DPS is what makes it worth
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
They can't with the new update
@Pyrodiac
2 жыл бұрын
First Strike: Am I a joke to you?
@dezzerck
2 жыл бұрын
great vid
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@redspear007
2 жыл бұрын
I'll always go 4-2-0 because the red glow looks cool
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, nice
@SumoneAverage
2 жыл бұрын
5-2-0 has red circle that goes brrr
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@lancetheking7524
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the sub only got "nerfed" in btdb2 not btd6 bruh
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
The more you know
@BloonMan137
2 жыл бұрын
I like mid path for races
@R09128
2 жыл бұрын
at my first thought this changes was stupid but after a few thinking this was actually good due to how everyone keep using 502 for dps and 520 heat-tipped dart was useless back then lead was used in radiation shield irl so 400, 500 pop lead is technically stupid
@SquiddyBeans
2 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty good
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yessir. Now angry sub seems to be the way to go
@redwoodxdd
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do the blade shooter cross paths next? I never know which one to take and with tack shooters being in all of the btd battles 2 strategys it could help alot of people.
@realhumanhaha1650
2 жыл бұрын
Generally you want faster shooting on blade shooter. A 230 is more consistent and more damaging overall than 032.
@TriXt3R_
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't the 4-2-0 supposed to have a red glow?
@MainChannel9521
2 жыл бұрын
ANGRY SUB BEST SUB
@semiserze
2 жыл бұрын
Why is there a twitch logo in the upper left corner?
@Patkall
2 жыл бұрын
Sub's nerf from latest update is brutal.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yea, angry sub is the way to go now
@Patkall
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hbomb Angry sub is not that good early game. A lot of CHIMPS strats are going to suffer.
@durkin.d
2 жыл бұрын
doesn’t reactor already hit leads? like i’m so confused
@stuffedcrustpizza6659
2 жыл бұрын
29.0 nerfed the Reactor so it’s damage type was changed from Normal > Shatter, meaning it can’t pop leads.
@durkin.d
2 жыл бұрын
omg i didn’t know that. kinda wish they didn’t do that..
@PorygonToast
2 жыл бұрын
Well turd. I would normally go for a 2-0-1 sub for early game on maps with only one entrance, and I would use Benjamin to get enough money for a bloontonium reactor. Well so much for my incredible early game strats :/
@durkin.d
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeniakustik-5229 ode
@SilenceAlvo
2 жыл бұрын
can you do a video about which crosspath is better for Ninja Monkey 4-2-0 & 4-0-2, 5-2-0 & 5-0-2
@landonsur8059
2 жыл бұрын
thats obvious 402 or 502 because 4xx needs seeking shuriken and 5xx probably is shinobi buffed anyway so it already has the decamo of the x2x
@seth013real
2 жыл бұрын
They should have reactor naturally pop leads, and have 4-1-0 do one more damage per pulse and 4-2-0 do two more damage per pulse
@TAKirbyStar
2 жыл бұрын
I think that's what it did before, though I could be wrong
@seth013real
2 жыл бұрын
@@TAKirbyStar The reactor used to be able to pop leads, but middle path did nothing for it
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
The middle path added pierce to the pulses and the bottom added pulse rate. Now the middle also adds lead popping power
@kylzepolaczkowaty2197
2 жыл бұрын
THE LONG AWAITED
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Haha, it's finally here
@Matick125
2 жыл бұрын
I still don’t know if I should go 4-2-0 or 4-0-2
@kyube4391
2 жыл бұрын
today I learned: reactor crosspaths matter
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Haha, yup
@mr.amranlaskar6562
2 жыл бұрын
4-0-2 is better cause it's SO FAST and it also enhances it too.
@bluewatergamingromania.m
2 жыл бұрын
4-2-0 allows to pop leds pierce incrised 50 to 100 or 100 to 150 or 100 to 200 damage 1 or 3 to 3 or 6.
@Cantthinkofgoodaname
2 жыл бұрын
4-2-0is the best if you get rid of the dashes
@andrewjoyner3450
2 жыл бұрын
Which icicle impale cross path is better? 0-2-5 or 2-0-5
@resmixhaferaj6823
2 жыл бұрын
I leave it blank just top path to get rid of camos
@i_am_jarvistm7220
2 жыл бұрын
Uhhhh Bloontonium Reactor does NOT have unlimited pierce, it has a pop cap of 50 bloons at a time. I checked the wiki for the number, I still knew of this from personal experience that it has a limited pierce, which is boosted by middle crosspath (70 with 4-1-0, 100 with 4-2-0).
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
I said that you silly goose. It has unlimited pierce for the decamo portion
@i_am_jarvistm7220
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hbomb Ah, oops
@XionLuis
2 жыл бұрын
Which avatar of wrath is better? 2-0-5 or 0-2-5?
@joethomas3350
2 жыл бұрын
Wtf I thought it could always pop leads??? Did they change it recently to make that cross path only be the one to pop leads cause I thought it was able to. I lost a battles 2 game cause of it
@Poppopper5367
2 жыл бұрын
Wait i thought 400 sub can pop leads submerged did they nerf reactor
@Vade4545
2 жыл бұрын
Me who uses 402 to pop leads mid game: …
@SpicySteve01
2 жыл бұрын
Doesnt the 5, 4 and 3-2-0 have a red ring instead of a green ring
@foxxbaker
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, 420 and 520 actually have a point?! I thought top middle did nothing with the sub in btd6
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, now they're pretty good
@Legoluke197
2 жыл бұрын
I can get why the radiation damage doesn’t stack, but I’ll never understand why glue overrides itself. Like unless I really spread my glue gunners out I’m wasting cash getting multiple tier 5s
@UnusualElan
2 жыл бұрын
Did you not try 4-2-0 with a 4-0-2? I tried them together and they did only a bit more than a single sub.
@the_seeing9005
2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm witch one is better for me hmmmm ok let’s just get both kinds
@philippebouvier3252
2 жыл бұрын
How do you get the red radar on the sub? I have been seeing youtubers w it but don’t know how to get it.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
420 has it
@wingedbluj1674
2 жыл бұрын
They made the angry sub viable.
@PineappleDealer37
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't say that. Rather, they made nucrear sub unviable at all.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Angry sub for life!
@henrystickmin5536
2 жыл бұрын
The Bloonatiniyum (I Don`t Know His Name My English Low)Nerf His Sad Now Can Don`t Pop Leads And I Think Not Damage DTT`s
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is brutal, but now 4-2-0s are really good
@mrmoinn
2 жыл бұрын
does the reactor attack stack in Battles 2? Cuz once this person put down 2 reactors side by side to stop my ceramic rush and there's no way a single reactor with the map range it had could've handled it.
@LuigiFan77
2 жыл бұрын
The 4-0-0 sub can pop leads if you submerge it
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Not anymore
@annaki180
2 жыл бұрын
4-2-0 is what I use because it can destroy round 59 easily
@gr1m720
2 жыл бұрын
Considering lead is what is used for radioactive suits not being able to pop leads is reasonable
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is a good change I think
@gr1m720
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hbomb yeah I used to use it all the time and I also had Benjamin, but now I use Etienne most of the time the decamo aspect doesn't really help anymore so I only get it for booster
@sippy5498
2 жыл бұрын
I swear on my fucking life it can pop leads without any crosspath
@landonsur8059
2 жыл бұрын
read the fucking patch notes
@kryhaj
2 жыл бұрын
wait, since when did 040 not pop leads? was it this new update?
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
29.0 made the 400 not pop leads
@Jack-y2g7z
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Hbomb what arena are you in in battles two
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Ceramic right now
@Jack-y2g7z
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hbomb cool
@roxze772
2 жыл бұрын
since when does 4-0-2 not pop lead lol I get to pop lead all the time
@D-S-G.
2 жыл бұрын
If only this video was made a week ago
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
It was, I had to redo it with the update :)
@capybarafan3314
2 жыл бұрын
Get both
@XtronEST
2 жыл бұрын
another day another vid :D
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, you know it
@ThisIsLin138
2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the reactor already have lead popping without 4-2-0
@terra1909
2 жыл бұрын
It used to but was changed recently
@goosemr.
2 жыл бұрын
is it just me or is he more sleepy than usual?
@kingambrose9919
2 жыл бұрын
his voice sounds a bit rough
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend was probably sleeping in the background :)
@slowbro15
2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail shows a 5-2-0 and 5-0-2 not 4-2-0 4-0-2
@the_downloader
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, it doesn't pop lead ?!
@tdsgamingandfriends6577
2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me it can decamo ddts?!?
@pastaman7278
2 жыл бұрын
Idea: get both
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@zsombo12
2 жыл бұрын
when did it get changed that normal nuclear sub cant pop leads it doesnt fucking make sense xx4 sniper made senae but this bs what next u need to buy burny stuff for lead popage
@legendjustine2533
2 жыл бұрын
The radar color is red when I crosspath it with the middle path.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Same. This was footage from right before the update
@Nitroxy_
2 жыл бұрын
Since when does 4-0-2 not pop lead?
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
A few days ago
@theresaclark9848
2 жыл бұрын
Hey bud, question, does the MIB affect the reactor? Also, is a 420 good against 63 or 76 at all?
@stuffedcrustpizza6659
2 жыл бұрын
The MIB should be able to affect a submerged Reactor. 420 preforms better in large quantities of bloons, it should be more effective than 402, not sure how well it’d do against Ceramic.
@theresaclark9848
2 жыл бұрын
@@stuffedcrustpizza6659 Thanks dude. I'll test rq
@theresaclark9848
2 жыл бұрын
@@stuffedcrustpizza6659 420 for round 63, but the MIB DOES affect it. Then again it does dick diddly against cerams.
@Hbomb
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, good to know that the MIB affects it
@alexandererhard2516
2 жыл бұрын
420 definitely is good against 63 for dealing with the leads. Don't expect it to Solo the ceramic waves though. 030 or 013 druid spam ist probably better against both rounds though. Especially as just 1 030 druid can deregrowth (on 1 entrance maps) the entire ceramic wave.
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