This iteration of Atari is actually the MOST "Atari" we have had in 30 years and even has Nolan's support.
@eSh..
Жыл бұрын
100% Agree! They're treating the brand right. They're hitting the right nostalgia points. As much as the Atari name has been dragged around the ground, and how tiny it is compared to other major players, I think this group is doing an absolutely phenomenal job. For those of us old enough to remember the days of Atari Jaguar, c'mon, they are doing a HELL of a lot better than the days-o-Jack.
@basicforge
Жыл бұрын
True, and if they can encourage new third party developers for the VCS and the 2600+ then we might see some really cool stuff in the future. They need to make a free software developers kit available!
@The_Haze
Жыл бұрын
They finally seem to be on the right track!
@LUCKO2022
10 ай бұрын
@@eSh.. Jack did OK. The Atari ST Computer line was pretty damn good for it's time. Yes it wasn't quite up to the Amiga but it was really close. The Amiga had a little bit more development time than the ST. Still damn good gaming machines.
@MarquisDeSang
8 ай бұрын
As proof that they have stopped sucking, I bought Atari Flashback 12 Gold, Atari Gamestation Pro, Atari 2600+ and pre ordered the Atari 400 mini.
@MCastleberry1980
Жыл бұрын
Charging $1000 for reprinted Atari games as a collectors item is friggin wild.
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I cant imagine anyone paying that much for it. I'll buy Pepsi Invaders if I'm willing to spend that much on a game.
@SylveonTrapito
Жыл бұрын
@genxgrownup bought them all! :)@@pojr
@chrisstory563
Жыл бұрын
those items are actually limited edition items for the 50 anniversary of Atari. the other reason why they're pricey is the cartridges are somewhat redesigned & have LED lights that light up the game title on top when using it on an 2600 consoles and there are some people who still have them and some bought from garage sales, ebey and etc. trust me I seen someone unboxed one of those. btw. it 1000 for all 10 of them not a 1000 a piece.
@Lifesizemortal
Жыл бұрын
Rich boomer collectors that already likely own the og cartridges are literally the only people buying them
@alkohallick2901
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisstory563ebey?
@MrScottx
Жыл бұрын
Nice History on Atari. I am not concerned that the console isn't made by the employees from 1972. What company still has their employees from 1972? I accept the modern Atari. The company seems to be run by employees who respect and love the original company. It is now their turn to move the company forward. They seem to be doing a pretty good job so it's their turn to shine now. I believe using Emulation is a smart move...to keep the price down. Using the original hardware would have easily doubled the price and then decreased sales. I am excited to see where the New Atari takes us!!!
@johndoe-vx3kf
Жыл бұрын
the atari vcs system isn't an emulation box. there is over 100 games on the store and continues to grow.
@bretcrooks4207
6 ай бұрын
Along with they are now getting some exclusives n timed exclusives which is a huge plus and a lot of people myself included are really happy with our purchase
@robertskitch
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Tod Frye has said that Pac-Man wasn't rushed at all, and the idea that it was is just people conflating it with E.T.
@VOAN
Жыл бұрын
Still the poor quality does show. I know the 2600 had limitation and all but Ms. Pac-Man released after that does proved that a decent looking port of Pac-Man is possible for the 2600. Either Atari rushed him through development or he turn in the final work incomplete.
@robertskitch
Жыл бұрын
@@VOAN The existence of the homebrew 'Pac-Man 4K' title does a pretty good job of showing an ideal version of Pac-Man within the same ROM size limitations. Frye gives a bunch of explanations for why he programmed Pac-Man the way that he did, but ultimately I'd say that whatever Frye did was the responsibility of Atari management. Pac-Man was going to be their best-selling game and more people were going to experience Atari through that title than any other. There should have been people making sure that it was their best product. Even if Pac-Man wasn't rushed, the fact that E.T. was just shows how well things were being managed at Atari.
@retrothing
Жыл бұрын
Word is that Atari made Frye program for a 4K cartridge. He wanted 8K, but they seemed it too expensive. Perhaps because of the reaction to the game, future titles would be 8K (as Ms Pac Man was). That said, programmers have since created much more faithful 4K versions of Pac-Man, but these use programming tricks that were unknown in Frye’s day.
@johnfloy
Жыл бұрын
Wonder if this will work with the "Harmony" cartridge
@wizzel22
Жыл бұрын
The Retron 77 and the A2600+ have different use cases. The Plus is for Cart Collectors and the 77 is for people who want access to any game of choice without collecting.
@Riz2336
Жыл бұрын
I knew the original company is long gone but I still respect Atari for what they did in the past. I have the Atari 50 compilation for switch and it’s fun to fire up every once in a while
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
Yeah some of their products have been great, including Atari 50.
@robertskitch
Жыл бұрын
I think the important thing about Atari 50 is that it was developed by Digital Eclipse who seem pretty well respected for the quality of their retro game collections, and definitely seem to be the people to go to for that sort of work.
@FeralInferno
Жыл бұрын
Nice job telling the history of Atari in a concise way. Almost to 10K!
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Trying to get there.
@basketballsteve54
Жыл бұрын
Saying the Retron77 has very limited support for games is flat false. It has way more compatibility than the 2600 + in it's published compatibility list. I have a Retron77 and it's rare to find a game that does not run. Dip switches on a multicart in 2023 is a sick joke that will ruin that cart for casual gamers.
@btr3k
Жыл бұрын
Here's something I always wondered about... the split of Atari into the home division (Atari Inc) and arcade division (Atari Games) is pretty well known, and it's the reason that these recent Atari products are limited to the early arcades like Asteroids, Missile Command and other "Atari Inc" games like Scrapyard Dog, Basketbrawl, etc. And, Atari Lynx was an Atari Inc product... so, how did it get ports of all the Atari Games arcade games like Xybots, STUN Runner, APB, Paperboy, Hydra, Klax, Rampart, Cyberball, Gauntlet, Hard Drivin, Roadblasters. At the time, I thought it made sense because they were Atari - but they were functionally two separate companies, right? Maybe they still had some friendly terms, or maybe it was just easier to license games back then. After all, the system also had Rygar, Qix, Pac-Land, Ms Pac-Man, and two versions of Ninja Gaiden. And some Williams properties like Rampage, Xenophobe, and even the Williams pinballs games Elvira and Police Force. Maybe just a different time. Anyhow! Thanks again for the interesting video Pojr!
@duzkiss
Жыл бұрын
From what I know Pacjr went to Namco and the rest were split between this Atari and the one owned by WB. They are all coming back into the same hands soon. Just like MaBell through ATT buying most of its siblings.
@JesterEric
Жыл бұрын
Nolan Bushnell was appointed as a Director of Atari SA in 2010
@thaddeusmcgrath
Жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to this with HDMI on my modern TV, but enjoy playing on a CRT with my composite modded 2600 so I wait to the price goes down. I did not know this was coming out, awesome review!
@summerlaverdure
Жыл бұрын
i thought this was going to be like a deep dive into who designed this for Atari, like what emulator is it using etc... but this is still a good video for people who don't already know Atari history. Good job POJR!
@krantzbucks
Жыл бұрын
I wish Atari would make a Atari computer mini like the c64.
@jonwwillis
11 ай бұрын
I love the Atari 8-bit computers. 😊
@JustMe99999
Жыл бұрын
"Jag-wire?" What a strange way to pronounce that word.
@cujoedaman
Жыл бұрын
I find some irony about the RF cable not looking good on modern TV's when talking about a system where you can literally count each and every pixel on screen :D
@tobypupzz7112
Жыл бұрын
If I still had my childhood 2600 collection I might consider buying this product, I never owned a 7800 or was even aware of its existence during my childhood though it has a few memorable exclusives so it's nice to include 7800 since it was backwards compatible with 2600, overall I like the design and will always have a soft spot in my heart for the 2600 as it was my introduction to video games
@ravensmadhouse75
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much The original Atari became Atari Games, while Jack Tramiel made the computer and console division his own thing and still owned the copyrights to Asteroids, Battlezone, Centipede and the lot. Nolan Bushnell said that selling Atari to Warner Brothers was probably the biggest regret of his life. Also, WMS Renamed Midway Manufacturing to Midway Games & Atari Games was renamed to Midway Games West, basically signalling the death of the original Atari company before MIDWAY went Bankrupt and sold the majority of their assets to Warner Brothers, Atari's previous owners. Even for awhile before that in 1993 to 1996, Atari Games was owned by Time Warner Interactive.
@kohl1999
Жыл бұрын
So many great companies basically died when they sold to investors/publishers. A few that come to mind are obviously Atari as you mentioned, Blizzard, and Origin Systems, Inc who made the Ultima Games (when they sold to EA).
@metronome8471
Жыл бұрын
Warner Bros never let go of their portion of Atari.
@ravensmadhouse75
Жыл бұрын
@@metronome8471 Yes they did, they just reacquired it two separate times.
@AndresGreenboi
Жыл бұрын
Hello pojr. I just want to tell you that I love with your videos. But there’s one small thing you can change that will probably not take that much effort, but will be worth it in the end. So you know when you finish talking and the music gets louder. Well I think it should gradually get louder, so that the transition is way smoother. Hope my small advice could help you out.
@jimbox114
Жыл бұрын
I think this will sell well. I personally don't need it as I keep an Atari 7800 hooked up to and old crt TV. I can see where alot of younger gamers might want to give this a shot since its getting harder and harder to find original hardware at affordable prices. Thankfully I started most of my collection in the early 2000's when stuff was cheap.
@linuxretrogamer
Жыл бұрын
Prior to Infogrames buying out Hasbro they were a top tier developer. Worth looking back at the 16/32-bit era and seeing what they were putting out under the Infograme branding. Since rebranding has Atari it’s been a very sad and pitiful decline. The company now being a mere shadow of its Infograme heyday, trading off a name recognition that belongs in a bygone era and selling nostalgia products popular 50 years ago.
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn't talk about their history at all and I wish I did because it's some good information.
@VOAN
Жыл бұрын
Infogrames never bought Hasbro, they just bought the Atari brand from Hasbro. Hasbro was going to sell away the brand to any gaming company that wants to take the brand and Infogrames was the highest bidder. Also I don't think Infogrames were that well known before they became Atari, they were more well known when they are Atari and as Atari they were able to get access to tons of licensing and gaming partnerships such as the Dragon Ball license from Bandai and Toei and Ikaruga from Treasure.
@robertskitch
Жыл бұрын
At this point the main things I really know Infogrames for are for wearing the Atari name, and for killing off Humongous Entertainment. It would be cool if someone would do a retrospective on them to know more about them before they got to this point.
@robertskitch
Жыл бұрын
@@VOAN No, Infogrames did not buy 'Hasbro' but they did buy 'Hasbro Interactive' which the Atari brand was part of, and Hasbro Interactive was not just the Atari brand.
@Ian45968
Жыл бұрын
Infogrames were very well known in the uk @@VOAN
@ThriftLife
Жыл бұрын
knocking on the door to 10k
@galindoxrafa
Жыл бұрын
Great content man! Keep it up!
@tiwanx
Жыл бұрын
funny Atari Games went full circle back to their corporate parent from the 80s (Warner Bros.)
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
I didn't mention this in the video, but you're 100% correct
@ghettoandroid
Жыл бұрын
The fact that its emulation is special to me. Hopefully this means it would be easy to hack and load it with your own ROMs and maybe even with different systems like Mame. Now imagine playing the arcade rom of Tempest with this system's paddle controler. 😉👍
@wes788411
Жыл бұрын
I’ll wait and see how good the emulation is. I wish they used FPGA hardware, I’d be willing to pay a little extra for it. Maybe Analogue will put one out eventually. Every console I’ve bought from them has blown me away, especially for the price (their products after the NES). Even their packaging is impressive.
@CommodoreFan64
Жыл бұрын
They don't even need to use FPGA hardware as the Atari 7800 used a slightly custom variant of the MOS 6502 CPU of which variants are still being made to this very day in the original DIP package design.
@DirectorCM
7 ай бұрын
I think everyone is well aware that the actual ATARI is long gone. I believe the final moments of Atari was in 2003.
@ronindebeatrice
Жыл бұрын
That's the best damn $4 history of Atari I've seen.
@somecallmesean_
Жыл бұрын
Idk but Atari 2600 games with ESRB ratings reminds me of the NES version of Warios Woods
@waynebroadbent1738
11 ай бұрын
Great Show Enjoyed your Work Keep it up
@dodgeramsport01
11 ай бұрын
I will just keeep my orginal Atari 7800 which is essentially the same thing as it also plays both 2600 and 7800 with no issues!
@basicforge
Жыл бұрын
For many of us, we will need to wait for actual reviews of the 2600+ before making a decision.
@MySamurai77
Жыл бұрын
The more i learn about classic Atari hardware is that all the best games were made by Activision not Atari. So i suppose if you have the cart you can play Activision stuff. Just always kinda sucks there is no official license for their stuff.
@fionagibson3314
Жыл бұрын
In Australia it is $189.95.
@arnauddemarais9104
Жыл бұрын
I thought the orginal atari compagny had veen split in 3 (not in 2).And I also thought One of atari thirds became namco usa.
@syntaxerror9994
Жыл бұрын
I MAY get a + ... But a recreation of a 4 switcher? Not a 6 switcher?
@wizzel22
Жыл бұрын
...and who has designed the Hardware, who made the Emulation in the A2600+ ? These Questions are unanswered.
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
This is true, I didn't mention this in the video. Are they using Stella or some emulator they built in house? We still don't know.
@VOAN
Жыл бұрын
@@pojr You can make a follow-up video once the console launch later this year and we will try to find the answer.
@robertskitch
Жыл бұрын
According to Thomas Jentzsch (who works on Stella) on the AtariAge forums, there's been confirmation from Plaion that they are using the latest version of Stella for the 2600+.
@MichaelMarquez-m3b
Жыл бұрын
The original Atari probably died when Jay Miner left to design the Amiga.
@basicforge
Жыл бұрын
It's a little messy but at least this version of Atari seems to be trying to do something concrete. Some new titles for the VCS and some brand new games for the 2600. They should also add some new 7800 titles to their catalog. My biggest complaint with the 2600+ (aside from name) is that it should have been a proper FPGA implementation. Maybe get Jerry Ellsworth or someone like her to do it. ;-) That, and they really should have created a new extended design for the 7800 architecture as part of their implementation. Something to give it more of a Super Nintendo capability. Then a free or hobbyist price development kit should be provided. Call it the Atari 9600 or some cat name like Tiger or Cheetah or whatever (Atari Raptor?). Reusing the names VCS and 2600 causes too much confusion.
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
100% agree with that. If it were an FPGA console, this would be an absolute win. But as is, I would say it's still a decent console but not as special.
@Atarifan72
Жыл бұрын
Atari VCS not a super great product? blasphemy! I love my VCS but glad I waited to purchase for a reasonable price. I’m all in on the 2600+. We have more Atari now than ever and it’s a great time to be an Atari fan.
@foooooob
8 ай бұрын
Atari 2600 my love!❤
@brandonwald5981
Жыл бұрын
Poorly researched video. The moment you started spreading lies about the VCS you lost me. "AN EMULATION BOX WITH NO EXCLUSIVES" is simply not true in the slightest. It has timed exclusives and while it does do some emulation the vast majority of modern titles run directly on it's hardware.
@juliusmega7373
Жыл бұрын
I dont like that some 2600 games on the website are usa exclusive because i live in Austria
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
Much respect for being a 2600 fan!
@BillBinder
Жыл бұрын
I'm really concerned about their compatibility list. Sure most games just need the unit and a joystick or paddle, but some games on their "passed list" require other peripherals. The Sesame Street games, Star Raiders, BASIC (and a few others) need the 12 button keypad. Some 7800 games need the light gun. Maybe those original accessories will work with the 2600+, but maybe not. But the big red flag was Smurfs Save the Day and Berenstein Bears. Stella and the other common emulators don't work with KidVid cassettes. Only z26. So how are they claiming that those games are compatible. I'm worried that their definition of "Passed" just means that it boots, not that it can actually be played. And sure. I don't need to play Smurfs, but if that piece of info is fudged, what else is?
@RetroTechChris
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Pitfall II, one of the greatest games of all time, is "untested." Definitely makes you wonder about that compatibility list.
@cliffjumper1984
Жыл бұрын
So it will support the keypad for my favorite 2600 game? Star raiders!!!!
@euromotif
Жыл бұрын
Why did Lego made the Atari 2600 last year
@legendsflashback
Жыл бұрын
If it has rear cart slot for 5200 I'll buy it
@Evil0tto
Жыл бұрын
It does not.
@legendsflashback
Жыл бұрын
@@Evil0tto then I'll pass
@AndrewHelgeCox
Жыл бұрын
Who has time to spend even one minute of VCS gaming when there are multiple lifetimes of the entire subsequent history of computer games on better platforms to play through?
@ryanzmuda3167
Жыл бұрын
How can it be emulation if it takes original cartridges.
@madmax2069
Жыл бұрын
the same way that the hyperkin Retron 77 and other emulation boxes that have a cartridge port does.
@johneygd
Жыл бұрын
An interesting story but you were better off title it atari hostory and you also don’t have to say twicccce that the atari 2600+ is this and can do that and to me,i don’t need it it becausssse i already own the i already own the original consoles and what atari is doing now is nothing more then just stealing money by keeping stuck to the past by keeping overprereleasing the same stuff all over and over and over again in different forms whether it’s digitally,on physical medium or different editions of consoles and handhelds,and then they even dare to release a 10 pack 50 aniversarry edition of top 10 atari games for $1000 bucks? are they really out of their mind? Well those people at the ressurrected atari company are obviously not the same as atari from the past but am very sure that there’re lots of atari fans working there who have the courage rip off atari fans from their money by charching a huge amount of money from them,what a shame of such practice business from atari wich shouldn’t be allowed, If i was atari just leave the past and move fucking forward like ressurrecting your own mascots like scrapyard dog and make cartoons,a movie and merchandises from it,whether it’s a risky move or not,just move forward and if it fails then they could always fall back to the past,damnit👎
@rockerteen8300
10 ай бұрын
Bish!!!!!
@orignal29
Жыл бұрын
Looking at the price of cartridges on their web site. 30$ for a version of BerzerK? I just checked and everything that has ever been released for the 2600 is just short of 75MB. Back in the day, ROM chips were way more expensive, but now, you're just paying for plastic. What's the point of plugging in a cartridge on an emulated system anyway? It's probably not even mapping the cartridge ROM inside the machine's memory adress space. I wouldn't be surprised if it just read the whole thing in one shot and then "replayed" it.
@SoyAntonioGaming
Жыл бұрын
unsubbed for begging for sub
@probably_afk
Жыл бұрын
No they are not.
@aztekno2012
Жыл бұрын
To what end though? All this can be emulated already. This is doa.
@Zoyx
Жыл бұрын
Oof. The Atari VCS is a great budget mini PC. It is holding its value on eBay. You lost all credibility when you called it an emulation machine.
@CLINTSTER77COX
Жыл бұрын
Atari 2 button?
@madmax2069
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 7800 controller has two independent buttons, and the 2600+ is only going to come with the 2600 joystick so that makes it a problem if you want to play 7800 games, especially if you don't have a 7800 joystick/game pad as they don't offer a new version of the 7800 joystick/game pad.
@DennyT123
Жыл бұрын
Limited edition boxset sold for $1000. Who would buy this? GenxGrownup raises hand.
@xargos
Жыл бұрын
The 2600+ is a swing and a huge miss for me. The fact il it's just an emulator with compatibility issues is a big part of it, but I also have no interest in supporting the current "Atari." They've lied about the origin of games they released, pushed NFTs, and even pushed the idea of a crypto casino. They're just not fit to carry the name. To be totally honest the merger of Atari Corporation and JTS marked the end of the Atari brand for me. JTS made extremely unreliable hard drives and was running out of money. A reverse merger with Atari gave them the money they needed, but since they had no interest in video games they killed off the company. I remember it all too well. At least on the upside JTS ended up going out of business.
@hardkoregamer1981
Жыл бұрын
The Atari 2600+ also supports the Atari 5200 games.
@madmax2069
Жыл бұрын
No, it supports 2600 games and 7800 games, the reason being that the 5200 uses a completely different cartridge slot than the 2600 and 7800. This is basically a 7800 in 2600 clothing but geared more towards 2600 (being that they don't have new 7800 joysticks and only new 2600 joysticks.
@RealGidspor
Жыл бұрын
Nice take on Atari and you did a good breakdown of the company names. I will say that no company that was around in the late 70's and 80's are being run by the same people. People retire, leave, etc... so to have that expectation doesn't make sense. The current Atari is doing a great job with merch for those that still love the nostalgia of their youth and bringing back classic games in new forms. As for the Atari 2600+, it's the first time we get to run actual 7800 carts. The Retrons don't do that.
@louistournas120
Жыл бұрын
If I buy this device, I would buy it for the games. I never played a 7800 game. Even though I have 2600 games and a Coleco Gemini, I would not want to turn that on all the time so that it would last forever. I would prefer to have a new machine.
@activeaction8374
11 ай бұрын
The video started well, but it was clear towards the end that he doesn't get it. Probably too young to understand.
@visitperaiagreece
Жыл бұрын
I had the Atari Flashback 2, which was a real Atari and not emulated. It was pretty good. I don't know why Atari couldn't have done that again but with 7800 hardware.
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
I always thought that too. The flashback 1 was the only one that had 7800 games on it, even though it was NES on a chip.
@dtester
Жыл бұрын
Yes, even if they didn't do fpga, could they have done 7800-on-a-chip similar to the 2600-on-a-chip they made for AFB2? Does emulation really save them that much money?
@visitperaiagreece
Жыл бұрын
Good question! It could have been done, and I think people would have seen the value in it. I had a plug n play joystick with a Commodore 64 on a chip. It was awesome., and it wasn't expensive. The woman who designed that was named Jeri Ellsworth. They could have hired her. @@dtester
@jamesreed5678
Жыл бұрын
@@dtesterEmulation lets them use off-the-shelf hardware rather than paying for custom or antique chips.. Emulation probably doesn't save much, but for these companies it's hard to resist even saving a little money.
@AloanMoreira1
Жыл бұрын
yeah I really wish they wen full ressurrection mode on this one!
@KevinFields777
Жыл бұрын
Man, you're entirely too harsh on Atari. No new VCS games? TONS of new games are out, developed both within Atari and by independent studios and individuals. Is it going to compete with Microsoft or Sony? No. But that was never the point. Also, the AtariAge website just announced it is being aquired by Atari and integrated into the company as their customer-facing support and community forum. Atari may not be the same company that Nolan Bushnell founded, but it is a company that is working to both pull the past into the present and continue to build onward into the future.
@Headroom23
Жыл бұрын
@pojr : You make a valid point about Atari not being the company that Nolan Bushnell and Ted Dabney created on 1972. However, it's still Atari. I believe Atari SA has the right idea by using the Retro Craze to resurrect the iconic name. Atari SA is on the right track. Let's see how far they could take it. As for the 2600+, I'm looking forward to owning one. As for it being emulation, if this is being promoted as such, then why use cartridges, original and multi? I believe it's being called emulation because of its retro use. Either way, I'm ready for this. Have you played Atari today?
@JRthepyroguy
Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend pre order for me. A nice gift for Xmas. I'm so excited to play it.
@LordOrwell
Жыл бұрын
I love your videos. You were a little repetitive at the beginning of this one, even down to saying "not special" twice. In general emulation is not as good, but that really doesn't apply to 2600 emulation. The system is so basic and simple that emulation is nearly indistinguishable from the original hardware.
@whiskyguzzler982
Жыл бұрын
The biggest and only question: will the paddles suck? They always do in emulation.
@Evil0tto
Жыл бұрын
That's been a big problem for me. I have a box of old paddles and none of them work well on my Retron, and the Retron paddle controller (just a dial) blows. A good paddle that works with a good Atari console has become my Holy Grail.
@will_it_work
Жыл бұрын
Atari is still a recognizable name.
@VOAN
Жыл бұрын
One thing to also noticed is that once Infogrames bought the Atari name from Hasbro and become Atari SA, it seems that acquisition had finally stopped. Most gamers don't want to give Infogrames the benefit of the doubt cause they kept wanting to live in the past and would refuse to accept Infogrames as Atari but the real truth now is that Infogrames is the real Atari. Atari is a videogame company, it needs leaders that respect its name and a company that could continue its foundation into the future without just acquiring and throwing the brand back and forth. The Atari that exist from 1972-2000 are not the real Atari, how could they be when they kept throwing the name from one company to another, heck the founder himself even left Atari in the dusk and never return and then went on to open Chuck E. Cheese instead. Also realize that once Infogrames acquired the Atari name, good games are finally made, when Infogrames became Atari we got hits like Ikaruga, Dragon ball Z: Legacy of Goku II and Budokai Tenkaichi 3, games like Alone in the Dark: New Nightmare, Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee, and now the recharge series. Atari fans owe Infogrames a great deal of respect for keeping the Atari name alive to this day and for respecting Atari's culture in the industry. Infogrames is not like Intellivision or Coleco that were revive to scam gamers, they are Atari now, they know gaming and they know how to developed, R&D, and marketing games and that's why they are the real Atari. I don't think I know any company that shows a great deal of respect for the Atari brand than Infogrames.
@calebprenger3928
Жыл бұрын
I would rather have an atari jaguar+
@VEGANVANIA
Жыл бұрын
No offense, but: would anyone say that SNK (Neo Geo) is "the same company" (as it was in 1994) by these standards? Sega: same question. No offense.
@PhilipMarcYT
Жыл бұрын
Even Nintendo isn't and they really have changed for the worse.
@legendsflashback
Жыл бұрын
At games : Flashback 11 Atari : hold my 2600+
@ScrapKing73
Жыл бұрын
I *loved* the Atari Lynx. Many games on it were amazing (Roadblasters comes to mind). I also had a lot of fun with the Atari Jaguar. I didn’t much like Atari back in the day (I had an Intellivision console in Atari’s heyday), but something about their 90s systems rubbed me the right way.
@SaschaGrant
Жыл бұрын
I loved my Lynx!!
@visitperaiagreece
Жыл бұрын
I had the Lynx. It was awesome! My favorite game for it was Blue Lightening. The only negative was how fast it went through batteries.
@ScrapKing73
Жыл бұрын
@@visitperaiagreece I used rechargeable AAs, so it was never a problem for me. I also had an AC adaptor for home use.
@bretcrooks4207
6 ай бұрын
Epyx really designed a futuristic hand held console with the handy that Nintendo didn’t pull off until the snes
@arthurcarneirolopes6383
Жыл бұрын
Could you make a video specifically about the Atari Flashback 2 and the Atari Interactive Inc. vs Tommo lawsuit? That's a very interesting story.
@jefffrazier2465
Жыл бұрын
As long as it plays most of the old 2600 and 7800 games, who cares whether it's an emulation or the exact same hardware from the 80s? The point of this re-release was to allow older gamers to play their classic games on newer TVs without all the adaptors and workarounds needed to do so.
@mgabrysSF
Жыл бұрын
So WHAT. Atari that you remember was after Warner got them from Bushnell. Atari was ALWAYS something being picked up you clickbait goons.
@Z64bit
Жыл бұрын
Any company that has existed as long as Atari has had at least some sort of mix up so if you're trying to say that the Atari that exists now isn't the same one that's true of most companies
@metronome8471
Жыл бұрын
Apple never been the same with Steve gone. Him and Woz are legendary Atari alums.
@marcel1463
Жыл бұрын
I still have the original console since i was a child.
@yeolemillinial8295
Жыл бұрын
lol i thought souja boi bought atari lol
@legendsflashback
Жыл бұрын
1:06 to 1:10
@Yubl10
11 ай бұрын
I think that the atari 2600+ is a good idea, and I can understand why they probably decided to go with emulation instead of FPGA because it would make an already niche product more expensive. It's $130 if they had done FPGA it would probably would have ended up at 200 to 300 dollars, making a product that not that many people are going to buy sell to an even smaller market. Basically, FPGA is really expensive to produce and has to be sold at a higher price for the company to actually profit. The atari 2600 isn't as popular as it was probably a decade ago at this point, from what I can tell. The popular retro game consoles has moved on from 2600. Making a expensive FPGA Nes or snes makes sense profit wise because Nintendo is still a big name today where as atari hasn't been super relevant to gaming since the late 70s and early 80s big difference there. This is coming from some who really likes owns and enjoys the atari 2600.
@brentad2004
11 ай бұрын
The 2600+ also needs A/V component outputs, for those who like to play on a CRT TV like the ol' days.
@Yubl10
11 ай бұрын
@brentad2004 That would be nice, but apparently, they are going with hdmi because that's what people expect from video games nowadays, apparently. I find it kind of funny because something with graphics like the 2600 using hdmi seems rather pointless to me. Why do I want to see the squares more clearly? Everything on the 2600 is a bunch of squares, and I don't really need to see them in HD. Pacman is a game that probably won't work very well on this system because it needs the scan lines of a crt TV to be able to show all of the ghosts on screen at once. I know that Pacman is a bad game, but it's not the only 2600 game that uses that programming trick.
@mr.y.mysterious.video1
Жыл бұрын
I barely saw atari consoles during their time, they really didn't ammount to much in the uk so I just can't feel nostalgic about the games, they are that bit much too primitive.
@ecdhe
Жыл бұрын
Why did Infogrames rename itself Atari? Because the former is an ever poorer brand name than the latter. Unless you had a computer in France in the '80s you probably never heard of Infogrames. For the rest, it's just coasting on Atari's former success without adding much to it. I had an Atari VCS I remember fondly, but there's no game on this console I feel like playing. It would be more attractive if one could download 7800 games, put them on an SD card and play them on the 2600+.
@dtester
Жыл бұрын
I agree, but some gamers in the 90's might remember Infogrames because they actually did have quite a few releases during that time before they started buying up companies and rebranded. ^_^
@Ian45968
Жыл бұрын
I'm from the uk and infogrames were very well known here
@ecdhe
Жыл бұрын
@@Ian45968I stand corrected. Infogrames is more famous than I would have thought. Ironically they did publish some games for Atari systems but that was late in the game.
@Evil0tto
Жыл бұрын
I'm a weirdo who loves my Atari VCS ("Ataribox"). Now, granted, I got it on a Black Friday sale for much cheaper, and I wouldn't have paid full price, but for what I paid it's a fun console. The Recharged line of games are great and I play the hell out of them, and there's enough interesting (and inexpensive) stuff in their library that I think it's been a good addition to my retro games collection.
@drdouso
8 ай бұрын
The VCS rocks! Once you get up and running there is a pretty amazing selection of new games and nearly the whole 2600 catalog plus arcade versions.
@blakegriplingph
Жыл бұрын
Just like how the company who call themselves "Indian Motorcycle" is nothing more than a Polaris subsidiary; the original Indian as established by George Hendee was long since shuttered.
@breal1
Жыл бұрын
Wade Rosen, Atari CEO since 2021, is the guy behind the 2600+. Of course no one from the original Atari is still around. The company is 50 years old. They've mostly retired from the industry - or worse. The 2021 Atari VCS is not an emulation machine. It's a mini PC / console hybrid. I have it setup to boot into Atari's OS, Linux or Windows, and play Atari OS and Steam games on it.
@fazares
Жыл бұрын
cool video keep up...btw i m fine with my atari jr. rca modded console thanks xD
@PH96Official
11 ай бұрын
I mean of the little that I have played of my friends VCS I'm genuinely impressed with Atari, whoever is in charge has not only managed to revive the brand but make a modern Atari console. Now they're introducing a new console that to play their older games? Yes sign me up, I'm all in for preservation regardless who's involved with the current brand. I think they should A. contract analog to do a fpga based motherboard for this project B. Contract limited run to handle and distribute the reprints of older games keeping the price lower and C. contract retro-bit to design the controllers. This would be a bit more expensive than what they're probably going to do but it'd be such a better console as a result. Despite these Pie in the Sky wishes I am optimistically keeping an eye on this, they can pull this off... even if it has to use emulation.
@whatspeedlimits
Жыл бұрын
Atari was founded in 1972 and SOLD to Warner in 1976- before the original Atari VCS / 2600 ever existed. People arguing modern Atari isn't the 'real' Atari don't even know what they thought was Atari- wasn't. This Atari has been 'Atari' for longer than any other company held the name...and they are doing a LOT of great things in the last 1.5 years. Atari now owns Nightdive Studio as example. So videos like this are either based on ignorance- or clickbait motivation.
@robertskitch
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I imagine that a video that was created to inform people would be based on the idea that there would be people who were ignorant of that information... that does seem to be how that would work.
@madmax2069
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, well said. It always rubbed me the wrong way when I see people say that "it's not real Atari". Whoever carries the Atari torch is the real Atari. Well no duh it's not original Atari, it stopped being original Atari when Nolan Bushnell sold it. The Atari most of us grew up with wasn't Nolan Bushnells Atari. All the companies and people that owned the Atari name throughout the years is no more or less Atari than the original Atari was. And the current Atari is doing a pretty good job at carrying that torch.
@keelamania
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The history of Atari is complicated but you are 100% right and the current iteration is the MOST Atari since the original.
@nickwerner7983
2 ай бұрын
With that, Activision should bring those patch scores back. I have an OG Atari 2600 so I’m trying to get every single one of those patch scores on select games.
@jimcampbell
Жыл бұрын
At a certain point it’s like the ship of Theseus. Is Ford Motor company still ford decades after the death of its founder, making vehicles completely alien to the cars they made in his lifetime, often in manufacturing plants far from his original? I guess in that case there was always a continuity in one way or another. I think the fact that this company is taking an interest in keeping the history alive is good (although I’m not fond of their buyout of the fan forum atariage..)
@loganq
11 ай бұрын
The singsongy narration was too obnoxious for me to watch the video. But it's funny that you'd come from a premise that anything other than a small family owned business would be the "same" company 40 years later.
@duzkiss
Жыл бұрын
He forgot to mention Atari has been on a shopping spree purchasing once owned titles and I won't be surprised if WB sells them the Midway brand and it's library.
@adonian
Жыл бұрын
Do you really need to make this video? Everyone already knows that Atari is gone. This is just another company using the Atari name since they own the name.
@Dwedit
Жыл бұрын
It's a rockchip-based system. Basically the same thing you'd find in a Chinese emulator handheld.
@unconbentional2044
Жыл бұрын
I'm well aware that Atari today isn't the same company it was 40 years ago, but I think all that really matters is what they're doing now. They seem to really be embracing their heritage, offering a lot of cool new products for us older guys. I have a VCS/Ataribox, and I don't regret buying it. I enjoy it for what it is, and they're still releasing new games for it. The 2600+ looks promising, and 7800 compatibility is the selling point for me, but you're right that it only being emulation is disappointing. I enjoy your videos. They're well researched, and well presented. Thank you!
@pojr
Жыл бұрын
Yeah in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter that Atari isn't Atari as long as the products are still good. I think some people who bought the VCS might have only done so because they thought the company behind it was the same one from the 70s/80s. I do think the 2600+ is still a cool console though, and I can't wait to see what it's like when it's released.
@gevaliasvittne7150
Жыл бұрын
All of this is SO, SO FAR from what Atari represented in the 70´s and early 80´s !.-"Before the shitty 5200 console showed up in 1982" that is. As a Hi tech company (yes !, back in 1972, even "Pong" was hi tech !) they were true pioneers within the fields of home electronic gaming entertainment, arcade game technology and even home computers ("Atari 400" was a MASTERPIECE with 1978´s measures !). They had their eye on the future !. And now,.. in the 20´s...well,.. /// "Hey, look, we make a ""Flashback"" console, cheap from China !. Let´s make it look a little like the original on the outside, then we have some half baked emulators on the inside !". "Hey look !, we make nine sequels to it up until "Flashback 10". "Yeah, and why not make a low spec computer with an Atari look, sell some android remakes of "Asteroids" to it, and charge a shit load of money !". "Awesome !. Why not rereleases of original cartridges from the 70´s for a thousand bucks ".-"No, let´s include Nolan Bushnell´s autograph, a sticker and a "Centipede" gum, and charge fifteen hundred for it !. "Hey, let´s sell a license to the amateurs on "Hyperkin", they´re gonna build a "2600 console" with some "40 % compatibility goal !". "Damn,. emulation is great !. Why not build our own "2600" called "2600+". And why not make an online casino, with a specific "Pac man super bonus" feature for every 1000 registered dollars !". "Hey !. Marijuana is legal in America now, why not sell "Space invaders" as a smoking concept !". "Yeah, and we could team up with captain Weirdo and make hats with "Let´s make Atari great again", and call our critic´s arguments for "fake news". "Yeee,..we´re f__king GENIUS !. They should give us the Nobel prize of economy damn it !"". /// No...-This is FAR, FAR from the "Atari" in my youth !. Actually,..It stinks !. 🤮
@serqetry
Жыл бұрын
Atari Corp was still Atari. It may have lost the original employees but it retained all the technology, manufacturing, documentation, etc. They were able to keep producing and expanding upon the same hardware as before, like when they released the 130XE which was basically a redesigned and upgraded 800XL. The difference between what happened with that split into two companies in 1984 and what has happened after 1996 when Atari Corp went out of business, is that after Atari Corp was gone, "Atari" was reduced to nothing but IP rights for games and branding.
@desiv1170
Жыл бұрын
"Is this really Atari?" People have been saying Atari isn't Atari since Nolan sold... ;-) I'm not worried about whether they are really Atari or not. Just if they don't mess things up really badly... Which ironically would be pretty Atari.... ;-) As for the product. I think its priced right and should sell fairly well. I'm not bothered that it is emulation. If it plays the games well enough, I don't think that matters... It does concern me that I don't see a way of updating it. Which means things that don't work now won't ever work. I think that's a mistake. Then again, the original Flashback wasn't great. But laid the path for the Flashback 2... So, I'm probably not buying (I have a 7800 with a CC2 multicart that probably wouldn't work with this), but cautiously optimistic about it and this new version of Atari... .... And still the Atari Pacman hate... Yes, some people grumbled... But it was the best selling game of it's time and is still the best selling 2600 game ever... And as someone who played it back in the day, it didn't bother me too much that it wasn't arcade quality. It was still fun. It wasn't until MsPacman was released that I really thought about how it could have been better... Looking back from today's eyes, yeah. But in reality, it was a successful game that most people liked, flaws and all...
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