No seriously Zangief with Modern controls is scary to fight
@SackMan039
Жыл бұрын
THE TIER😱
@issahazkins812
Жыл бұрын
@@chillybradley3095all reactions take 1. Button and that 1 button can take 25%
@shadowofthenorthstar989
Жыл бұрын
@@chillybradley3095 interesting didn't know that i fought one using them and i made him really salty
@battlericky17
Жыл бұрын
1:34 Luke 1:56 Jaime 2:48 Manon 3:33 Kimberly 4:00 Marisa 5:18 Lily 5:57 JP 6:22 Juri 7:18 DEEJAY 7:24 CAMMY 8:38 Ryu 9:19 Honda 9:49 Blanka 11:07 Guile 11:36 Ken 12:29 Chun li 13:03 Zangief 14:01 Dhalsim
@luisrosario3781
Жыл бұрын
Any particular reason that Dee Jay and Cammy had their names completely capitalized?
@battlericky17
Жыл бұрын
@@luisrosario3781 most likely I accidentally had the caps lock on i just noticed that
@luisrosario3781
Жыл бұрын
@@battlericky17 A weird question on my behalf, but thanks.👍🏼
@battlericky17
Жыл бұрын
@@luisrosario3781 no worries
@twisttempo
Жыл бұрын
@@luisrosario3781it’s the two characters he’s tryna fuuh
@jacobmems123
Жыл бұрын
DeeJay was my main back in SF4 and I was so happy to see him come back with one of the best redesigns ive ever seen in a fighting game. Kimberly is awesome too, I’m a huge music guy and I love that both characters I use music in they’re kit somehow. That’s what made me play them
@Oranader
Жыл бұрын
Heyyy, a fellow SF4 Dee Jay!
@dark_nightwing_xl2797
Жыл бұрын
He has a lot of supers 🔥🔥🔥
@pastorofmuppets9346
Жыл бұрын
Dj deserves top tier status more than anyone here, mon!
@jcoren23
Жыл бұрын
DJ have a lot of moves he can cover everything
@SpyderBlackOfficial
Жыл бұрын
I don't use DJ but man the players I came across are tough. He's definitely top tier
@njgrant3988
Жыл бұрын
Any bloodclat time mon
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
Dee Jay was one of the first characters I gravitated towards in SSF2 but he feels obnoxiously strong right now.
@bmack5265
Жыл бұрын
I get that Lily might not be that powerful, threatening or unpredictable as the other characters, but I really want to try maining her. I'm getting back into playing fighting games versus just watching them, and just something about her style really calls to me. We'll see how it goes 🤞🏾
@TheGreektrojan
Жыл бұрын
She's not bad, just doesn't have the tools to complete at the highest levels consistently. Play her well and you can still make master rank, just not compete at the absolute highest level.
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
I'm playing her almost exclusively at this point, She's going to get buffs for sure but she's already fun and well worth the time.
@alfredososa3059
Жыл бұрын
She might be good, she just doesn't have any sauce man
@superfarful
Жыл бұрын
Any character in this game could win a tournament, top tier character in this game will just be slightly less work to get the same result but it's 100% possible to do good with any character
@Blank-me9hb
Жыл бұрын
@@alfredososa3059she is just a child 😭 nothing cool about her
@citywrestler4682
Жыл бұрын
DeeJay seems to be the most popular in terms of usage , mix ups and overall difficulty to fight against especially with his drive rush , pokes and damage output
@Levi_Skardsen
Жыл бұрын
The official usage stats were released. Ken, Ryu, and Cammy are top 3.
@citywrestler4682
Жыл бұрын
@@Levi_Skardsenyes I saw. But it does seem like he’s being used much more
@LesGrosPiedsDeDeejay
Жыл бұрын
@@citywrestler4682 He's in the 2nd half of the usages
@callanharvey6264
Жыл бұрын
@@citywrestler4682 that...doesn't make sense.
@citywrestler4682
Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Luke supposedly the best character in the game from stats ?
@aurorablaize
Жыл бұрын
Juri's crazy good in this game. And ironically, she's a good counter to JP since she can straight up dash through his projectiles.
@xaviervega468
Жыл бұрын
A lot of characters can do this. The hitbox on JP's projectiles dosen't activate until a certain distance.
@mikejonesnoreally
Жыл бұрын
@@xaviervega468 Wow! Hey, thanks xavier! :D
@natem1579
Жыл бұрын
@@xaviervega468 Can Tatsu go through his projectiles? Specifically the command grab? Haven't tried it yet.
@fengxii
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Chun at 4. I feel like you got to work really hard for a win, but every W feels amazing. Feels like I haven't unlocked the potential yet
@Mojomoud
Жыл бұрын
A Street FIghter 5 character in a Street IFghter 6 world is the best description of Lily I think I've ever heard. She feels like she's missing something.
@TheGreektrojan
Жыл бұрын
I'd put Dhalsim in that bucket as well, though his tools translated better than THawk's/Lily's. I think he's also missing something as well.
@ryandavis4936
Жыл бұрын
as a guile main i think 4.5 is apt. guile is really strong but he only has really good fundamentals, he doesn't have JP or Deejay shenanigans to make him pop up to S+, it is also very hard to convert neutral into damage, and he is weak to DI
@andimari9194
Жыл бұрын
Definitely don’t think he’s weak against DI at all. All of his moves recover in time to DI back. Definitely think he’s top tier. His buttons are ridiculous
@ryandavis4936
Жыл бұрын
@andimari9194 most of his normals do not cancel
@andimari9194
Жыл бұрын
@@ryandavis4936 right but if you’re just spamming them on auto pilot then they’re weak. If he presses it here and there then he can counter all of them
@SerenGetter
Жыл бұрын
SF6 really favors generalist rushdowns, because the drive system rewards them the most. Abundance of EX meter from the start gives them a better chance to skip neutral and also gives them better options on wake up. Not to mention Drive Rush cancels allows some "low-damage" characters to really get up there at the expense of skill/meter. Also Drive Impact cancels makes throwing buttons as a rushdown less risky.
@mr.b5663
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever encountered a really good JP, Guile, Dhalsim or Ryu? I’m in Diamond rank with Cammy and DJ and those guys will be chucking projectile at a distance to make Zangrief want to cut a promo mid match. It all depends but higher you go you’ll encounter different styles. Zoning is very viable just not as brain dead as some other 2.5 fighters. Even with the Drive Rush and Impact a well timed fireball will disrupt it or set your opponent up to counter your DI.
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
Playing against rush down monsters as Lily is horrible, The system mechanics feel like they're against her.
@SerenGetter
Жыл бұрын
@@mr.b5663 I agree those characters are good, but I don't think any of them get to abuse the system like Rushdowns do. Exception being JP, because he actually has a decent response to everything that pressures him.
@joneyflopay943
Жыл бұрын
I kinda wish Ryu would have the same amount, if not, slightly less tools than Ken that differ from Ken’s toolset. It just feels like he wasn’t given as much this time around as other characters to me and everyone knows what he can do. Ryu’s glow up is really cool, but I feel like something is still missing (like more stuff to play with) when I compare to other characters, especially Ken. Of course I could just play Ken, but I just think Ryu is cooler and it would be nice to have tools that are more meaningful for him and his somewhat defensive, yet balanced and precise style instead of choosing a more offensive directed route. On a random note, I wish he kept his cross up tatsu gimmick from third strike, where you have to guess which side to block after wake up.
@achair7958
Жыл бұрын
You were spot on with Ken. As a Ryu main he honestly feels like a better version of Ryu, because his mechanics just gel with SF6 so well... Of all the SF6 characters he's the SF6-iest
@TakumiJoyconBoyz
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and his speed gives him some great help with certain matchups that are kinda rough for Ryu, namely the JP matchup. Ken has two moves that move him forward so fast he phases through JP's fireballs and then ends up plus on block, where as Ryu is much slower and has to slowly struggle his way through a lot of bullshit.
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
Drive rush makes Ken scarier than ever, Defending against him is an absolute nightmare.
@CrimsoniteSP
Жыл бұрын
So basically, everyone in this game is super good. There's no true bad character but no character is going to straight up carry a player either.
@fakeigniz13
Жыл бұрын
As a Lilly main until sometime better comes along. I just want some better anti air options and some better pokes
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
Special cancelable medium punches would straight away make her so much better, It'd protect her from drive impact and open up more combo routes.
@Chickensea10
Жыл бұрын
Isn't rashid supposed to be coming out soon! Can't wait to see if theres gonna be a special collaberation tagged along with him!
@LeonJohnson-yi3hg
Жыл бұрын
He’s coming out in the next month or so I believe. And I can’t wait !! Rashid is awesome
@Chickensea10
Жыл бұрын
@@LeonJohnson-yi3hg oh sweet!
@KaleRylan
Жыл бұрын
When the leak originally dropped I decided I was gonna try maining him. Disappointed he wasn’t launch so I’ve just been bouncing around waiting til he drops. Very excited
@Chickensea10
Жыл бұрын
@@KaleRylan Its almost time dude! You'll get your shot soon!
@Chickensea10
Жыл бұрын
HOLY COW EVERYONE! RASHID BATTLE PASS IS HERE! RASHID IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPREAD THE WORD RASHID LOVERS!
@5TailFox
Жыл бұрын
I don't know. I'd put Chun Li at around a 3.5, because she's good, but she has a lot of unique mechanics that you don't see a lot of people utilizing in day to day online fights. So she has yet to show just how good she can really be.
@MrBones105
Жыл бұрын
Something about Chun Li reminds me of Angel in kof. At least in the sense that most people who play her are mid and not really using her toolkit to max potential, but when you do run into those people who really know the character it’s absolutely terrifying.
@RanOutOfSpac
Жыл бұрын
People who utilize her insane walk speed in wake-up situations for shimmies are the ones that scare me the most. It immediately tells me this fecker knows what he’s doing lol.
@senounatsuru6453
Жыл бұрын
@@RanOutOfSpac IIRC she has the highest back walk and is top 3 for forward movement. Chun Li be shcmoovin, and if she puts you in an oki situation, it's kinda terrifying.
@HolySok
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes in Max videos I feel like the audio mix of the Outro music and his Final Words is sort of off. Too in favour of the Music and doesn't hit that "this is the end of our regularly scheduled programming" I think it's going for during that transition. I feel like if you look at a video series like "Delayed Input with Kyle Bosman" you kinda see how he uses that "end of episode" audio transition more effectively. Dunno if that's something the editing team or Max agrees with but just thought I'd mention it.
@muffin2221
Жыл бұрын
Real talk about Kimberly, every one who says she sucks is lying through their teeth
@democaf7192
Жыл бұрын
"This is not a tier list." Proceeds to list every character in a tier.
@Arcademan09
Жыл бұрын
Ive never played as Cammy but im obsessed with her right now
@voltaicthief646
Жыл бұрын
I’m a Ryu and Ken main. I don’t care how basic they are or what anyone says. They will always be my mains!
@jl53588
Жыл бұрын
"There is no other character that snowballs as hard as Marisa" You literally just passed Manon :/
@gntyh
Жыл бұрын
I used to find jamie the easiest to play against since he felt pretty basic and readable but going up in ranks and having played good jamie’s they were way saucier and started cooking me
@Geractor1
Жыл бұрын
I saw a lot of tier list but yours honestly is mother most accurate and I share the same vision of each character.
@jkdman2007
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say is the most accurate. Different level has different tier list.
@brendonohagan1946
Жыл бұрын
Wait till Akuma drops
@albumreviewsandsuch9994
Жыл бұрын
lily was my day one , shes really fun to play as, but when i tried out marisa, it was like a match made in heaven... super fun to play, alot of stuff you can use and combos that feel fun and sick to pull off.
@DixyRae
Жыл бұрын
First off, I'm not good at all, prob never will be, but I've always loved Chun Li in every iteration. In SF6 tho I really feel like I'm bashing my head against a wall with her for no reason when Juri is right there. I love Chun's stances mechanic, I love her overdrive options, I just feel like I'm never gonna have the technical chops to use her on the level her tools demand and while also just having a fun time playing Street Fighter.
@countquackula8539
Жыл бұрын
I think you're just strictly not a Lily fan you even gave her low ratings on her costumes. 🙄
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
He does it with all characters of that archetype, You should disregard anything he says about Characters like Lily and Yuffie from FF7 he's not trying.
@nem3732
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that every character here even if they aren't at the top of everyone's tier list, can still be usable and not be completely useless. And even if some of them are, anyone can love something from each character's personality that people would still play them no matter what. The game has so much personality and that extends to the characters as well and we really have to commend what Capcom was able to do in this game.
@Hypno_BPM
Жыл бұрын
Maxs description of Lily being a “SF5 character in SF6” makes a lot of sense actually. I think they need to get rid of her Wind Dance buff move and just make the moves effected by it OD instead. Or like the Wind dance buff makes the move have armor ? idk
@masterofdoom5000
Жыл бұрын
Lily has got T.Hawk stuff, while all the returning characters from that era of SF2 now have new tools and abilities to better fight with. She really feels like she isn't designed with the same depth and variety you can get out of ANY of the original world warriors in 6.
@bulgomi
Жыл бұрын
depends on who plays them, you meet someone good with lily / jamie and can't touch them. you meet someone like me who plays everything like 1 star...
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
I had a JP player in battle hub praising my Lily it was wholesome. It's tough but more rewarding playing characters like that, I was going to main her anyway but her being weak made me want to stick with her even more.
@twylight191
Жыл бұрын
I've been playing this game a lot, I've never been a Dee Jay player originally, but he just so much fun to play in this game
@diegomireles1773
Жыл бұрын
Marisa rocking the Roman bowl cut
@jaealxndr
Жыл бұрын
I still hate fighting Kim more than anyone 😂
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
I can't stand fighting her she's one of the only characters I don't want to rematch. I hated Honda but I'm slowly warming up to trying it more as I'm dping some of the headbutts to make them think twice. Kimberly is just too fast to process what's going on.
@jaealxndr
Жыл бұрын
@@DayFulI agree
@kSwissh007
Жыл бұрын
lily ryu and jamie are the most underrated characters in this game… they have some crazy tools they are SUPER STRONG in the RIGHT HANDS yall gotta keep exploring
@dookieshoes3585
Жыл бұрын
As a day one DeeJay player I’m kind of sad everyone else realized how good he was. At least there’s more opportunities to break out the maracas with my mirror. In my opinion all honorable Deejay mirrors need to start with dancing for super
@loganmcgee18
Жыл бұрын
Juri has the same Dash speed as Zangief..
@alexjohnson2162
Жыл бұрын
As a ryu main this HURTS. He might need a buff fr, at least to his HK knockback and his recovery frames are sooooo slow, so easily punished by anyone with any level of skill fr fr
@Sniperbear13
Жыл бұрын
holy hell they really sculpted Manon's rump. 100/10 ass.
I want this dood to rate all the taunts. Especially Jamie's good one.
@sgwaris8853
Жыл бұрын
Still no sakura and Dan here can't wait for both of them and the rival school character as guest 😅
@ChocolateBoyy0
Жыл бұрын
*me as a Lily Player "All my life i had to FIGHT" lol
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947
Жыл бұрын
Luke is the one that amuses me the most, because he's a Shoto not in gameplay, but he gives drive mechanics, he has some cool combos but with the use of Drive Rush you extend plus the movements, he is one of the most connected to the drive and EX of the game and in the modern control I think he is the best character, in the classic he is good and fun plus the movements, he is one of the most connected to the drive and EX of the game and in the modern control I think he is the best character, but in the classic one it is to play.
@thebiggestbaz
Жыл бұрын
Thank you dor putting some respect on kimberlys name 🙏
@EKk8819
Жыл бұрын
Anyone notice Guile has on Joels watch from The Last of Us?
@Wavedashnoir
Жыл бұрын
We need more tier list max
@Superjoseph-vd3zc
Жыл бұрын
As a ZANGIEF main we are simply superior to every other character in every way and all of us share a single braincell
@Saxdude26
Жыл бұрын
Max: "Here's a hot take, I think Ken is one of the best characters in the game." Ken: "SMART CHOICE!" Yeah. Yeah, that tracks.
@TheRasengan0
Жыл бұрын
Gief at mid-level (i'm plat with him) is a "knowledge check" character, if you don't know the shit I can do or my range, i will command grab your ass and empty your health bar but I will struggle against people that know the shit I can do.
@danielcallingham749
Жыл бұрын
you gonna boss rage goenitz?
@HelFrostKara
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. There are also pro's and con's of each, which is also dependent on the player I imagine. Like idk even where to begin with Dhalsim or JP for example, whereas I clicked with Cammy and Chun-Li pretty quick (not that I'm even remotely good lol). Also, I agree with that bit about Ken & Ryu. Remember feeling that when they started differenciating between them, that Ken feels better (to me). In SF6 specifically, Ken seems to do flashy/cooler looking moves that Ryu heh.
@KizuneKasumiOne
Жыл бұрын
Manon is my fav character! So idc if she doesn’t get used a lot 😭 Just happy we have a French fighting gal in the game after 10,000 years lol I tried Lily and…maybe I wish Ed was there instead lol
@eryvac0074
Жыл бұрын
Ed is coming. He's one of the year 1 DLC
@titorodrigues4580
Жыл бұрын
Max is officially from the "Grapplers can't be really good" gang Gief is GREAT at the game, but people are way too used to shitty grapplers They're hard to play , and when you do it, you DESTROY
@Slowbro00101
Жыл бұрын
Max about Manon seems you'll have to omit some moves. Generics some specials and rely on the counter system, Ryu archetype. This game has great anti airs buttons 🤍
@jinpei05
Жыл бұрын
It's encouraging to know that almost everyone in this roster feels viable, and in some cases, overachieving.
@skepticpunk_
Жыл бұрын
Lot of characters in this game are really good.
@liljon042
Жыл бұрын
@@skepticpunk_goes hand in hand with great system mechanics. Everey character can have a response to everything, it all comes down to how you respond to those options
@jackjackson811
Жыл бұрын
Max just hit us with a, "Usually I don't do this but..."😂
@VeryNormalGuy9
Жыл бұрын
Normally he only rate Super and costumes, so he didn’t lie 😂
@throwaway450
Жыл бұрын
@@kingofdragons7 /woosh
@Osborne4Life
Жыл бұрын
When even the “worst” character can still be used at a tournament level and get the wins, you’ve truly got something special here.
@z1u512
Жыл бұрын
Not just getting wins, but the wins dont feel like something unachievable, just more work
@dddaaa6965
Жыл бұрын
@@z1u512 wat…who couldn’t do that in 5? In usf4 too, only one I can think of is DJ, even Dan won some tournaments in that
@grandfred1364
Жыл бұрын
At the release date ! So maybe the future patches will make the game even more balance
@mikejonesnoreally
Жыл бұрын
@@dddaaa6965 i'd REALLY like to say Hakan! Except, y'know Infiltration. :D
@fanoftheredredeggman5298
Жыл бұрын
I hope the developers are getting a ton of love for making a fighting game where all the characters feel good, fun and viable at launch its Awesome
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320
Жыл бұрын
I’m sad the devs didn’t try to optimize it for Series S, they just copy-pasted the ps4 version. MK1 looks great so it’s definitely possible
@charliebaker1427
Жыл бұрын
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 i mean not sure what to tell you its been 2 generations now where x box isnt the console for fighting games anymore
@TheNbmonstre951
Жыл бұрын
@@charliebaker1427honestly it’s playable
@ubergamer2010
Жыл бұрын
I clawed my way into Platinum with Manon. She's really good right now but everyone plays her just a tad differently which is so cool to me. I never know if someone is immediately gonna grab me, or if they're focused on doing pokes into wall pressure. She's so flexible and she can change her approach VERY quickly because of her special moves.
@shart6439
9 ай бұрын
gowon spotted
@metalgearfan9802
Жыл бұрын
I find Jamie's to be kind of hard to fight just cause he just feels so different to go up against.
@emperormegaman3856
Жыл бұрын
Considering that he uses drunken boxing, this is probably deliberate on the devs part.
@lordtoomas
Жыл бұрын
@@emperormegaman3856 yeah, he's definitely unusual on purpose
@D4rkKyur3m
Жыл бұрын
hahaa i love jamie but i suck at him! seems like grab chars do well against him?
@jas3946
Жыл бұрын
@@D4rkKyur3mZoners are his worst matchups
@bootsthegod9084
Жыл бұрын
@@jas3946drink enough to get his bakkai spin kick. You can OD spin kick on reaction and punish fireballs
@jscriber100
Жыл бұрын
The development that Lady Chun Li has had over the years is impressive. Instead of finding new moves, she chose to master or sharpen the moves shes had maybe since SF Alpha 2. Also, love her char select pose. Big thanks to the devs.
@flameroad123
Жыл бұрын
A part of me wishes the legs of Street Fighter (Chun Li, Cammy and Juri) could dish out on last new finisher. To show how far and powerful our fighters have grown over the year’s.
@roxtechs
Жыл бұрын
@@flameroad123they are saving it for SF7 or Ultimate SF6
@Saxandfifths
Жыл бұрын
@@flameroad123what do you mean "dish out"?
@flameroad123
Жыл бұрын
@@Saxandfifths it's another word for Doing something
@Saxandfifths
Жыл бұрын
@@flameroad123 you misunderstand. I'm well aware of what it means colloquially but your usage is what confused me. You said "I wish the legs could dish out on last new finisher"..... What does that mean?
@skald2154
Жыл бұрын
I just watched Snake Eyez destroy people with Zangief for 45 minutes and he definitely makes him look like S tier
@jeremyroberts8822
Жыл бұрын
Watching snake eyes ruined my perception of that character and now Idk what to think lol. At first I fought a few of them and was like eh he’s okay but struggles to get in on over half the roster but then I watched snake play him and was like wtf. He makes him look unstoppable . It honestly just goes to show that any character in the right hands can look pretty crazy for the most part
@samk522
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Ryu main. That's... never happened before, but without Gen, Zeku, Makoto, or Fei Long in the mix, he just has the playstyle and vibe that appeals to me the most. Thing with Ryu is you HAVE to know the match-up and have a strategy ready to go. His own tools are solid, but it's Ryu. You know his tools and everyone else does too, so success is gonna depend on 1) execution, and 2) knowing what your opponent wants to do. That's really how it should always be with Ryu, I think; if he's ever higher or lower than somewhere in mid-tier, it's a problem.
@taelin-rh3wi
Жыл бұрын
Ya like to name a single sf player who doesn't know how to fight Ryu😅I have fought Ryu like a thousand times. Even with his new tools He's still way too simple to fight.
@corbandotson4295
Жыл бұрын
I'm still holding out for makoto as dlc... We have to wait at least a YEAR for any dlc characters that weren't leaked 🤧
@vuton7670
Жыл бұрын
@@corbandotson4295 crossing my fingers for ElF
@brendonohagan1946
Жыл бұрын
@@corbandotson4295same been saying would love her to come into this mix
@TakumiJoyconBoyz
Жыл бұрын
@@corbandotson4295 Same, homie. Waiting on Makoto or Sakura and sad we gotta wait a fricken year minimum.
@dittles
Жыл бұрын
I don't care what tier Manon is, I'd play her regardless. Everytime I see her level(medal) 5 command grab, goosebumps....
@Greyman-Gaming
Жыл бұрын
2 lvl 5 medal command grabs is all it takes to get your opponent to yellow hp, scary.
@louishubbard2104
Жыл бұрын
Landing a level 5 grab is so satisfying it definitely sends the oppenent into panic mode
@TheDGDeagles
Жыл бұрын
Kimberly is good as long as you don't play someone more than like 2 games in a row 😂
@Ryuken27
Жыл бұрын
Jamie is definitely a 3 star. He's fun to play but it takes so much work to win. Gold was as high as i vot with him.
@taelin-rh3wi
Жыл бұрын
Idk man I've had my ass kicked by beta cracked Jamie's so my opinion is a bit biased😅
@andimari9194
Жыл бұрын
Definitely. If the momentum is against you in a fight and you don’t have any drink levels it’s extremely hard to mount a comeback
@SuperRamos619
Жыл бұрын
I think Jamie is going to be the next character I learn. And then Chun.
@anything6036
Жыл бұрын
i think Jamie has some really bad matchups and also really good matchups. for instance, manon and guile are really bad because they outspace and zone out jamie. but against other characters who charge stocks, he can do pretty decently because of his lunge palm strike, and hes alright against projectile characters (that arent guile) because of breakdance. ive been able to get into plat with him, and hes the only character i play just because i think hes so fun. but his matchup spread is probably all over the place
@blackmanta2527
Жыл бұрын
@@andimari9194 That's when his level 2 becomes useful .
@gamerkingdom1442
Жыл бұрын
It’s always interesting to see MAX POV of things like this. He understands that it’s more on how the player uses the character, rather than how META breaking the character is. Yes, there are very good ones, but ALL have the potential to be GOOD, on the hands of the right player.
@whateveryouwantmetobe.1489
Жыл бұрын
As a Lily main, I do think you were spot on with her feeling limited compared to the others. She lacks alot of things other characters have. No invincible dp, no throw loops, and her condor spire gets pretty gimped by Drive reversal. Imo all she needs is an invincible dp and for her wind charge to be a bit less laggy.
@Dizzifying1
Жыл бұрын
I don't think that the light wind needs to necessarily be faster, but it should be drive impact cancelable. So when you throw the c.HP
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
It feels like Capcom played it way too safe with her kit compared to the rest of the cast, She needs more ways to open you up and better defensive options.
@whateveryouwantmetobe.1489
Жыл бұрын
@@Dizzifying1 I would agree if it weren't for one thing: zoners. One of her main weaknesses is her inability to set up when characters like JP are chucking projectiles left, right, and center. If it was DI cancellable it would solve her close range issues sure, but zoners would just punish the DI. If her light wind charge was faster, it would solve both problems, since she could just act faster out of close range normals for a DI, and she could sneak one in while being zoned and get her access to EX wind spire to deal with zoning.
@Dizzifying1
Жыл бұрын
@@whateveryouwantmetobe.1489 How fast are we talking here? It is currently 47 frames would you want it dropped to somewhere in the 35 range? What if we married both concepts. What if at 35 frames she gets the stock, but there are 12 frames of recovery. During those 12 frames she could ONLY block or DI. This way both issues are resolved accordingly.
@whateveryouwantmetobe.1489
Жыл бұрын
@@Dizzifying1 That is a good idea as long as she can cancel the dance with block, D-Parry, or DI. I think it would help alot in both close quarters and long range. But I don't know how fast I would make it. Just fast enough so she isn't a complete sitting duck.
@villa777
Жыл бұрын
Editor. Thank you for that angle you chose for Manon's segment. We appreciate you.🙏
@BNLReactions
Жыл бұрын
❤
@Wally_West
Жыл бұрын
SF6 is pretty balanced for now ...until Akuma comes out lol
@EijiShinjo48
Жыл бұрын
It's Tradition at this point 😂
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
Can't stand the mental stack overload edge lord, It was bad enough him spoiling T7 tournaments.
@Gomaaaa
Жыл бұрын
I think it was Nemo that said the reason he thinks Lily is so weak is because she needs wind stocks just to be a usable character, and to get wind stocks you're forced to sacrifice any advantage/oki you get.
@starbwoybling
Жыл бұрын
This whole street fighter 6 roster can be top tier . Capcom did a really good job . I don’t feel like no one fighter is unstoppable. You just have to pick the fighter that fits your play style.
@VoidEternal
Жыл бұрын
Jamie def could use a buff to his drink mechanic but man... that kinda steps on the toes of his Level 2 super. It's a hard call.
@soapyillusions7
Жыл бұрын
I just think it’s wack post Level 2, his drinks reset. Maybe they could take that into consideration.
@alejandromolina2802
Жыл бұрын
@@soapyillusions7 When the install level 2 ends he should be at 1/2/3 drinks depending on his hp, it could be neat
@toberone5158
Жыл бұрын
Imo I think his level 2 should go from temp lv 4 to just being 2-3 instant drinks. A little boring but I think it would be more impactful.
@andimari9194
Жыл бұрын
Well they actually have the level 2 super nerfed. If you get level 4 regularly, you get 110% of your power. Though through this super, he’s capped at 105%. So if they buff drinks they could just nerf that damage cap to 100% for level 4. Instead of it being a big damage boost and your full kit, just have it as an instant access super to your full kit. What I think tho
@zhaf
Жыл бұрын
They can just buff his lvl2 to also fill a chunck of his drive guage even ourside of being in 4 drinks and it has a purpose again if they buff drinks.
@RemixedYoshi
Жыл бұрын
Crazy to me people keep saying u have to be under 30 to react to drive impact it just feels like people are not willing to learn the system
@Zango25
Жыл бұрын
Hmm.. I recently switched off of casual controls. So making my inputs out to be muscle memory is a bit hard considering this being my first owned street fighter and all. Plus im coming from platform fighters.
@RemixedYoshi
Жыл бұрын
@@Zango25 from smash to street fighter is a big leap indeed
@DayFul
Жыл бұрын
It's not about reacting to drive impact it's recognising that your opponent is doing it then using cancellable normals to bait it.
@malcolmjelani3588
Жыл бұрын
DeeJay is broken. S+++ tier. They need to tone him down.
@statesminds
Жыл бұрын
Poor Lily. Max dogged her design in a past video and now her gameplay lmao
@democaf7192
Жыл бұрын
It is really interesting to see Max's take on these characters compared to the pros.
@papamilfz1565
Жыл бұрын
Max is a pro what’re you talking about 😂😂😂
@democaf7192
Жыл бұрын
@@papamilfz1565 max is a professional content creator not a professional player. He rarely competes in tournaments at this point and I don't think he was every really a top player in any of the games he did take seriously. Maybe in the early days of KI? Either way he is definitely not a pro in sf6 and I'm sure he would say the same thing
@TakumiJoyconBoyz
Жыл бұрын
@@democaf7192 Yeah, he's an ex-Pro Third Strike player and Third Strike was a very long time ago. Even he would admit he doesn't have that kinda skill in him anymore. He definitely still has a lot of the insight though.
@democaf7192
Жыл бұрын
@@TakumiJoyconBoyz Exactly
@sGzBugz
Жыл бұрын
@@papamilfz1565our man max is not a pro player. He’s a content creator that competed a stupid long time ago
@cyberlexl3136
Жыл бұрын
Jamie's mini-game and cool design made me play him, but I feel like is underestimated. The thing is he's hard to master. But for those who will, he has all the tools to beat anyone.
@jaealxndr
Жыл бұрын
Fr and I’ve seen some dudes dominate w 2-3 drinks only
@jhsrt985
Жыл бұрын
Agree, and Lilly has a full geif command grab with alot of weapon range. I think they both just need time to cook
@RanOutOfSpac
Жыл бұрын
I actually think the overall tier placement for the character by most people I’ve seen is fair (mid-ish usually), but I whole heartedly believe this character has insane potential. I lose to Jaimes a lot because Jaime players are just really freaking good on average.
@andimari9194
Жыл бұрын
@@jaealxndryeah I think 2 drinks are a necessity. Anything after is bonus. 2 drinks gives you breakdance, new target combos, as well as buffing you up to 100% damage of your attacks rather than 90-95% of the prior drink levels
@dino3965
Жыл бұрын
Nah man he's pretty undertuned, The divekick has a janky hitbox and gets stuffed by the weirdest moves and it's like impossible to aim it to make it safe. He has the worst dp in the game, it's probably still fine but worth noting. The command grab is literally useless. No safe on block special moves up close. The fact he needs 2 drinks to get his damage ender is rough. I've been playing him a lot and like him but he struggles, I think the drink system is fine as is just needs a few of his moves buffed a bit.
@GemakaiGaming
Жыл бұрын
As someone who is a fan of Lily, yea, pretty inclined to agree with the assessment here. She's fun, but incredibly simple and lacking the things other characters (even Gief) gets. I hope she gets more fun toys in the future, but I believe when people say she's bottom 1
@jordantaylor4390
Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you gave most characters a “4” which is most people are “above average” which means “you can play most people and see success!” To me that’s a good roster! It doesn’t need to be ‘balanced’ but the imbalance should be inspired and such
@Speedo94
Жыл бұрын
This will win best fighting game 2023
@PeluAirstar
Жыл бұрын
Meh
@Slappaccino
Жыл бұрын
It should, but MK just has too big of a casual fanbase now.
@shadowofthenorthstar989
Жыл бұрын
i mean yea it has no competition so far
@terryts2
Жыл бұрын
At CEO fighting games this year and a TON of people registered to play this. And there was a ton of different characters used. Had a great time
@Gebirges
Жыл бұрын
i mostly play Lily and she's hella fun - the 2* is sad :(
@RanOutOfSpac
Жыл бұрын
God I fucking love this game.
@123451234alex
Жыл бұрын
Marisa's beefy arms and beefy damage are why I love her
@luisrosario3781
Жыл бұрын
"Where are you going?!"
@cosmicghost811
Жыл бұрын
Same. She's my second favorite/main in this game (first being DeeJay).
@luisrosario3781
Жыл бұрын
@@cosmicghost811 Dee Jay's theme in this game is a bop.
@cosmicghost811
Жыл бұрын
@luisrosario3781 It grew on me. Personally, they should've went with Dancehall music for his theme.
@CodeNameMoniker
Жыл бұрын
What I love the most is the dev's decision to make JP feel like the 'final boss'. He's got crazy shit that no one else can do, his playstyle requires him to stay in control of the flow of the match, and the best counterplay is to be patient and methodical as you approach him. He definitely feels like a 5 star character, but not so broken that the rest of the cast is unviable. It's just very well done. That said, I'm really interested in A.K.I. I noticed that some of the enemies in world tour can poison you so it's pretty likely she'll be a disjointed threat with her claws that can focus on defensive play once she's poisoned the opponent.
@franckfrancois4378
Жыл бұрын
Her design looks like an evil Chun Li. I can't wait to see what the plan is here.
@obesegorilla1923
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who doesn’t downplay JP. Everyone acts like he doesn’t play a different game.
@rodrigosantana4769
Жыл бұрын
DeeJay's normals aren't good. His bigger normal to use as drive rush cancel is stand lk, wich sucks. His stand hp whiffs against crouching opponent. His cr jab is 5f start up and just +4 on hit. Definetely it's not one of the best neutrals in the game.
@enemychaser6487
Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy seeing how good Dee Jay is now. In the majority of the games, he's usually "Guile but bad" and now my man is doing his own thing and being hella good at it. Nice.
@thebeluvdtrex
Жыл бұрын
WOW. The perspective of someone else. I never heard anyone say Kimberly is easier to fight against now she doesnt have a wakeup dp. Us mains have been hoping it returns. lol
@TexasJellyfish
Жыл бұрын
2:24 idk what he said about Manon but I ASSume he was completely unbias
@jamesgonyer8454
Жыл бұрын
2:25 we just gonna ignore that cake Manon's throwing at our boy? 😂
@Strizz484
Жыл бұрын
I think Luke, Guile, Dee Jay, and JP are pretty busted at high level
@irishsoxfan34
Жыл бұрын
I think Jamie should get a small buff and should work like this. He lose one drink if wins a round and two if he loses.
@Coral_skies
Жыл бұрын
Alright. I'm not a fighting game guy at all. I think the last one I owned was that soul calibur game on the gamecube. But after watching all of Max's SF6 content, I decided to give the game a shot! Wish me luck!
@user-xv6ig2yp3z
Жыл бұрын
Jamie players are downplaying. They over exaggerate how hard it is to get drinks in and once he's 4 drinks in he's debatable best character in the game
@Vizery
Жыл бұрын
welp, if you think there are a lot of ken players now THERE WILL BE EVEN MORE LOL
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