I thought Whoppy and Philup represented million years or old as dinosaurs 😮😮.
@jay-sean424
Ай бұрын
@empresspaula-mae I thought it was just a folklore
@olgamartin5884
Ай бұрын
Every bed time story is also real they tell it like parable just like Jack and the Bean stalk Bredda Annancy and Tucomba Cinderella Harry Potter the Prince and the Pauper just to name a few all of them are real
@elgranjero2284
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the history lesson on Whoppy King. I've always heard that name or the idiomatic expression "when Whoppy killed Phillup." I also watched your historical take on Delroy Wilson and found it quite informative. There is just one thing I find a bit distasteful in your narration though, and that is your categorization of Whoppy as " a dirty locks Rasta man." I take offence with that reference because it comes off as derogatory and scornful. You could've easily said: A man with dirty locks,, stained teeth and unkempt hair. My father, for the last 35 years of his life, was a Rastafarian who - through his work as an engineer - was a respectable productive member of the Jamaican society. I find that many Jamaicans do look down upon people with locks with a superiority complex. My father, like all true rastas, had a great ideology on life, religion, morality, deportment, and family values which were all entrenched in the teachings of His Majesty. Sir, if there is any way possible please edit out the word "Rasta" from your narration. I am not of the Rasta faith as my father was but I have great respect for the people who categorize themselves as Rastas, and Whoppy King does not belong in that sub-group as my father and the many thousand people throughout the world who class themselves as Rastas. Blessings
@JamaicanChapter
10 ай бұрын
The description is specifically pointed to Whoppy King alone and does not refer to the entire Rastafarian community. (The Gleaner at the time described him as a Rasta).
@elgranjero2284
10 ай бұрын
@@JamaicanChapter Bredrin, in those times (the 1950's) Jamaica was under white, British rule and most things that were put out in the Gleaner and over Radiogram were controlled by a white ruling class. The narrative back then was skewed towards the British. Blacks (along with Chinese & Indians) were second class citizens. Rastafari which begun its movement in the 1930's (and given some strength by Leonard Howell, Joseph Hibbert, Archibald Dunkley & Marcus Garvey), was looked upon as the lowest of the lowest. Here now, in the 21st Century we should be careful how we talk about ourselves, our culture, and our sub-cultures. Whoppy King, with his locks etc., and criminal ways was obviously not a man of high moral character but we should be careful how we characterize him in reference to a group of people who have given yeoman service at the highest levels of society. Let's repudiate and relinquish old colonial terminologies that served only to put us down.
@jasminsimpson1324
9 ай бұрын
Well said!!👏
@patriciamccalla5300
9 ай бұрын
Well said, Jamaicans have a bad habit of calling anyone with locks Rasta. They need to stop call Rasta duty Rasta.
@orvillethompson9351
9 ай бұрын
You are theorizing what happened
@bollockchop501
10 ай бұрын
Because a man has dreadlocks doesn’t make him Rasta, true rastaman would not commit these crimes,be more careful in your choice of words
@dannysinclair5089
10 ай бұрын
Thank you..
@markspringer716
9 ай бұрын
Oonu think Rasta a oonu Jesus ? Lol 😂😂😂
@nyabinghinyabinghirealms9433
9 ай бұрын
@markspringer716 u choose a white man to be ur god rasta choose a black king...Jesus the ship that brought you to Jamaica into slavery and now ur praising the same idol that they use to put us in slavery so stupid so dumb u all praising a white man for ir god...
@richardcalbut3927
9 ай бұрын
Was about to enjoy the sort imagine identified a dread as a Rastaman, smh. It's really ignorance, Blessings for your standing against any slaughtering.
@whitehallavenue1752
5 ай бұрын
@markspringer716 Juvenile
@rafftafari7332
10 ай бұрын
Whoopy King wasn't a rastaman, he was just a bearded-man.
@sweetsop2938
10 ай бұрын
In this day and age we should not be referring to a person wearing locks whether for religious purposes or not as "dirty locks rasta man" poor choice of words.
@elgranjero2284
10 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Listening to many Jamaicans you can tell that rastafari is not looked upon favourably among many people. DJ artist Stitchie demonstrated that sentiment when he did his hit song "Natty Dread....and dem deh kind of living." If we patterned our "living" more off the Rastaman we wouldn't be having so much crap in Jamaica with all these murders, a shredded moral fibre, and same sex relationships.
@jasminsimpson1324
9 ай бұрын
Well said...it's about time we start understanding the legacy of colonialism on our people's minds and stop perpetuating the ignorance and prejudice brought about by our oppressors.
@charmainerussell5226
3 ай бұрын
Well whoopy was one because he was a old murderer!
@jayyvngblud3110
5 ай бұрын
Big up jamaica chapter nigel for those interested information and may god bless u and continue to the good works🙏🙏🙏
@musicmind7846
10 ай бұрын
that was a dread my lord, not a rasta man, u dig??
@kamkam4571
4 ай бұрын
Fi real, caz Rasta clean and take pride inna dem teet wid dem chew stick n cane.
@allanvickers3501
10 ай бұрын
I still don't understand how the phrase Wholly kill Phillup came about. Who the heck was Phillup?
@JamaicanChapter
10 ай бұрын
Sydney Garel's petname was supposedly Phillip.
@AckeeEater.
10 ай бұрын
Watch the video again. --Æ.
@elgranjero2284
10 ай бұрын
Apparently he is implying that Garel's nickname was Phillup.
@dannysinclair5089
10 ай бұрын
That's the nickname of the same man he killed.
@456loveluck
9 ай бұрын
Good thing I found it Cause my mom always said that term 😂, not many times Sometimes 🗣️🤔❓
@christineh322
9 ай бұрын
Be mindful of your audience and refrain from using outdated, stereotypical, derogatory language and description when referring to Rastas! As others have stated not everyone with locs are Rastas. Such language is extremely offensive and conjures up memories of the 'Blackheart Man' era as described in Bunny Wailer's song of that title. True Rastas are far from dirty!!
@markspringer716
9 ай бұрын
The description and references of said man was no different from a real Rasta in those days. He was reading the printed narrative. It's just a reminder of the raw uncensored scorn of the day. The narrator had no imput.
@skygawd5609
8 ай бұрын
Just made this exact same comment but I think it’s the Christian blood in him he cannot help himself 😂
@karennotice3563
4 ай бұрын
I believe he's referring to the way Jamaicans referenced to Rasta back then not now
@georgeedwards9374
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the enlightment on that story of Whoppy. In the future, can you please tell us about Ryggin,Mospan and Goldstine. The were outlaws extraordinary in the fifties i believe. Looking forward with great expection. Thank you for your timely discourse on the Whoppy subject. Done with good clarity and explanation.
@user-ye7mw9xl5u
5 ай бұрын
My bro keep doing things the want you're doing it, don't matter the good you do there's always someone who will see you and your work or works as being not enough or no good. You who is telling the man to speak faster please leave the man alone stop listening to the channel if it doesn't suits you
@user-zg7xe3ib7j
8 ай бұрын
I thought this was a myth. I didn’t know it was for real.
@TheWetwet
3 ай бұрын
Me too 😮
@Ben-Ken
9 ай бұрын
I'm not a Rasta but I understand why some people don't like that Whoppy was labeled a Rastaman. He may have just been an unkempt savage. Since people didn't understand or like Rastafarians at the time, they probably just called him that.
@user-nz5up4fl5l
4 ай бұрын
This is an accurate report from what I heard, now some might not like the truth but you are not here to sugarcoat the facts just to please any, feelings might be hurt but the truth is a solid rock, peace...
@pvirgo9338
10 ай бұрын
Rasta man ?? fix up your talk
@ikongchin3088
9 ай бұрын
Mi fully agree wid de I. Nuff 1s in n 1s from a certain back ground always look down pon RASTA. Now as a full grown man , mi tek offence to your wording regarding RASTA suh please watch U mouth n how U address RASTA. This is now 2023 a nuh back then when deh powas dat be had deh uppa hand regarding how we think n speak. Nuh badda wid it seen .
@charmainerussell5226
3 ай бұрын
Whoopy was just as he described him he was a old murderer
@byronbanner2298
10 ай бұрын
Very informative keep up the good work
@mandy6379
9 ай бұрын
I always heard about whoppy kill philipup from i was a child and thought it was a joke some one made up...but never knew it was a real thing....as my mother always said you live and learn.
@asherbendavid59
9 ай бұрын
Back in that anynody with even a beard was /could be mistaken for a Ras.. weird
@donone7686
9 ай бұрын
I have been hearing the saying from Whoopy king kill Phillip from I'm a boy and its the first I know what its about lol
@kayziacoutureclothing4035
9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 me too
@dawnallen287
10 ай бұрын
Mr mind your mouth talking about dirty Rasta man , you have fashion dread, you have Rasta, both are not the same, pls don’t try to disrespect Rasta , I don’t understand what your talking about wholly kill Phillup more than disrespecting RASTA, get your act together Mr
@JamaicanChapter
10 ай бұрын
The description is of the specific man (Whoppy King) and not of the Rastafarian community.
@andrewcummings2416
10 ай бұрын
Them a deven dread them just locsup
@jdfguthrie
9 ай бұрын
Yes but should differentiate because Rasta is not just anyone wearing locs. You could have gone about the story without using degrading comments about Rasta. Just don't sound good and not a good look either. I am not even rasta and I take offense. I even hate the fact that every and anyone just loc them hair without respect for the background and it's purpose. However u can't sensor man from fashion but at least u have control over your language. So just be mindful of the word and how it's used. The same u wouldn't want all black folks to be referred to as nigga or monkey.
@user-zp8qv5xm9j
9 ай бұрын
The Death penalty should still be considered
@InspirationalTeacherr
8 ай бұрын
I know that the narrator wasn’t trying to be disrespectful to rastas. I know that very well. I just wanted to let people know the difference between rastas and dreads. The word dread as it relates to locks ,was originated in England by white men who knew very little about our faith. If you refer to a real authentic Rastafarian person as a dread you would be in for some serious problems. I for instance,I don’t entertain anyone calling me a dread as I’m not dreadful. Children used to be scared of a Rastaman because they were told that he is a black heart man and when you see one you should run or call the police but now the Eastman has come a long way to emerge as the most peaceful person on earth.
@vinnette4583
7 ай бұрын
from i was a child i use to hear my grand parents talk about about whoppy king and Phillip up and the killing on the beach
@Abitofeverything876
5 ай бұрын
I honestly did not know this was a true story!
@richardgregory2349
9 ай бұрын
can you state how the name phillup came about
@justicedagreat
9 ай бұрын
So who the hell is Phillup?
@claudettestewart3711
9 ай бұрын
Inteteresting, i wonder where 'Phillup' came from since the victim's name was Sidney 🤔
@oliverose3465
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining about Woppy King
@drtonyfearon7318
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for info. The old timers always mention woppy king.
@514relaxmode
10 ай бұрын
Dirty locks Rastaman???? Dats where I log off...........
@JamaicanChapter
10 ай бұрын
The description is of Whoppy King only and does not refer to the entire Rastafarian community.
@pvirgo9338
10 ай бұрын
Stop it bout Rasta, just bbc Stop it !!
@514relaxmode
10 ай бұрын
@@JamaicanChapter words have power....
@jermainemiller6750
9 ай бұрын
I never knew that this was real omg!!
@carolb.6350
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this story with us.
@yvonnegrant3659
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for all this info , I always hear my mom talking about it!!
@antoinettethompson1159
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this history lesson. Please could you please find Gregory Isaac'.Thank you
@user-ms3hn6zu7o
9 ай бұрын
Discrimination against Rasta have been going on from Day one, no wonder Joomayka people suspicion of Rasta is still existence even today expounded by church and state via the media
@zillogullu33
9 ай бұрын
And fools like this ...
@dean-kz9cm
9 ай бұрын
I don't hear nttn about phillup whoppy would not be popular without phillup 😢
@christineh322
9 ай бұрын
If the narrator is reading from an original script re the description of Whoppy, then maybe a caveat explaining this would help to avoid the reactions from viewers who find it offensive.
@FrankTulloch
9 ай бұрын
"From Whoppy King Phillup"
@MadSwagMedia
9 ай бұрын
From Whoppy Kill Phillup
@saulbenjamin6368
9 ай бұрын
Also gave us an update on dat old time black Jamaican character name bag o wire it would be cool to here about him lol
@1968cageyb
4 ай бұрын
I think my mother mentioned seeing Bag-O-Wire. I will have to ask her.
@jeffcee9457
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the starting was sad but it make up in the end with the rope around di Rasta man
@janettebailey6275
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for that clarification
@blackjarokat
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the story always heard the saying but never the backstory. Did subscribe bless up
@joscelynmiller9333
10 ай бұрын
i still dont hear who Pillup was? Cho!!
@JamaicanChapter
10 ай бұрын
The focus of the video was on Whoppy King. But I agree that I should have gave details about Phillip (supposed petname of Sydney Garel). But the video was already made.
@omarhenry3413
9 ай бұрын
Pillup can be just about anyone
@SandiSandi639
9 ай бұрын
@@JamaicanChapterbut u should have mentioned that Garel was also called Phillup 🤷🏽♀️
@GanGztaGriZZle9684
4 ай бұрын
Pay attention
@RR-kb2ks
Ай бұрын
1. This dangerous nasty piece of work was not a rasta, just a serious ruffian, with locksed hair. 2. Dread and Natty are not derogatory terms. 3. Please stop finding fault in the presenters delivery, he is doing a good work, taking time and effort to bring a lot of insighful and historical information to us. If you feel you can do better, then stay away, create your own channel and stop knocking the guy - big up Jamaican Chapter.
@charmainewarsop688
9 ай бұрын
Speak in that manner I am interested to listen and understand
@kelsonalleyne
9 ай бұрын
Don't involve rasta in your business just tell the story of the criminal he was not a rasta
@normanbrown9225
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Info I have been looking for info on Wholly, I as 7 years old Kingston Ja.❤
@normanbrown9225
9 ай бұрын
Whoppy king is what I was saying and in 1951 I was 7 years Old, Kingston Ja.
@Rapchaendz1
9 ай бұрын
Thanks fir the history !!
@AuthenticSelector64
7 ай бұрын
Some people call dem self Whoppy King…..disgusting
@jahjire5518
9 ай бұрын
Great work.
@jendayipinnock6180
10 ай бұрын
hey sir, hello...nuh badda wid di dirty Rasta business. Rasta nuh mixup inna bangarang! Mad man with dirty locs is all you had to say.
@JamaicanChapter
10 ай бұрын
It is obvious that the description points to Whoppy King alone. It does not include the Rastafarian community.
@jendayipinnock6180
10 ай бұрын
No, it’s not obvious. Look how many people commented. The man was not a Rasta because he had locs, clean up your argument rather than be combative.
@CeeItsMe
28 күн бұрын
Hmm. But if you’re literally referring to him as a “Rasta” of any kind, then yeah, you’re actually saying that he represents the Rastafarian community. And yeah, I completely take offence to that.
@skellyghosskellyghos6239
10 ай бұрын
If he died 45 ,then at least early thirties at the time of his first murder
@raphaelgeorge6486
9 ай бұрын
It's nice to hear about this but yu make it a lot longer yu drawing out your words
@AckeeEater.
10 ай бұрын
Good info but the first native GG was not Florizel Glasspole; it was Clifford Campbell. I was born in 1951 so yuh done know seh me no like fe hear dat me born from when Whappy kill Philip! Grrr! --Æ.
@JamaicanChapter
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the error. I have since edited it out.
@janoyantonio9585
8 ай бұрын
But no statement on who the phillup he killed was, the death form was on woppy. I'm confused here that did i miss
@ronmandingo1566
9 ай бұрын
Who was Phillup.
@ricardobaggio4330
8 ай бұрын
Sydney garrell was philop??
@JamaicanChapter
8 ай бұрын
Yes, indeed
@peterprice2705
9 ай бұрын
While the historical narrative is quite informative and helpful to listeners & viewers, the narrator needs to let someone else tell these stories. His voice and presentation are the biggest turn off to such vital information. Why are you counting your words so much are you doing a summary and you want to get the exact words or what?Wasn't anyone there to advice him frankly and truthfully NOT to narrate the stories himself? In addition, you need to choose your words carefully when relating to certain people in the society. (e.g. the 'Rastaman', etc.). Great information but poor narration.
@Fada_king
2 ай бұрын
Remember the guy is Haitian
@OrlandoAnderson-pt3nb
9 ай бұрын
So who was Phillup???
@Senator_B
10 ай бұрын
Why do you talk so slow like you are talking to school kids? Speed it up a little bro.
@Mrs.T305
9 ай бұрын
Increase the speed with the settings icon in the video.
@kingstunna7666
9 ай бұрын
@@Mrs.T305😂
@user-nubiangoddess
5 ай бұрын
Gosh. He has a good program here...this is how he speak. Enjoy the program
@shaniquavybz9007
5 ай бұрын
Good story teller but It's true needs to be a bit faster
@patrickrowe6745
5 ай бұрын
You can speed it up bro
@user-fi3iz5gc8j
25 күн бұрын
A Long time from dutty whappy,days the justice system is weak, n shaky, by just giving ppl like those just a few months in prison to come repeat them dutty habits
@RR-kb2ks
Ай бұрын
Whoppy, one extremely nasty and dangerous individual
@jdfguthrie
9 ай бұрын
Still dont know or what is Phillup.
@sqaddie
9 ай бұрын
Excellent choice of topic, however your delivery felt like " watching paint dry " but I'm sure you will be working on it 👍🏾
@CeeItsMe
28 күн бұрын
Lol @ “watching paint dry”😂
@Junjo11
Ай бұрын
Nigel, can you try to find Whoppy or Phillip family they must have family alive. 1952, was not that long .
@JamaicanChapter
Ай бұрын
Actually, I researched the families of them both but left such information out.
@alvesthegreat
9 ай бұрын
Is there a reason you doing the video so slow and depressing
@JamaicanChapter
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to give a feedback. I appreciate it. I don't see where it's slow and depressing though.
@user-ud5oz6mk1d
4 ай бұрын
You need to talk about. Maxfield sunrise.Don aka Rodigan.
@traum640
8 ай бұрын
My granny used to say whoppy killed phillup because him did borrow a money from whoppy and when whoppy asked him for the money phillup beat whoppy. She said whoppy laywait phillup and chopped him up with a machete.
@user-mc4gh7qi2g
9 ай бұрын
Very great vlogger.
@CN-pq6wj
10 ай бұрын
Who is phillup
@Junjo11
Ай бұрын
I am hoping that Whoppy King did not have any children because they would be evil like him
@JamaicanChapter
Ай бұрын
Whoppy King was living with his girlfriend, a woman called Ruby at 60 West Street, Kingston. I did not go to the area to find out if Whoppy King had children. If he did, I doubt that they became as him.
@kamkam4571
4 ай бұрын
Suppose it wasn’t him that killed Phillup? They could’ve sentenced an innocent man!
@judithwhite6148
Ай бұрын
Who is Phillop????
@user-kn7vq1jt9w
9 ай бұрын
Your voice definitely doesn’t coincide with the video… Sounds boring and not appealing to listen to…. Improve that aspect….
@JamaicanChapter
9 ай бұрын
Your feedback is appreciated.
@InspirationalTeacherr
8 ай бұрын
That was a DREAD,not a Rastaman. Rastafarin people don’t kill. Everyone should know this by now. Please know that there is a fundamental difference between a Rastaman and a DREAD. A Dread does dreadful things but a Rastaman is a peaceful man.
@waynejackson169
8 ай бұрын
Though the narrator's choice of words were not the best, (in the manner of saying rasta when he should have said dread lock wearing personnel) I am sure that he had no intention of disrespecting anymore. By the way, do you know that in some countries the locks is sometimes referred to as "dreads."? Yes, the words RASTA and DREAD(S) can be loosely used depending on whom ever is using the words.
@orlandorichards9942
Ай бұрын
Mi like hw nigel say dirty locks rasta man 😂
@dannysinclair5089
10 ай бұрын
Why you keep repeating yourself sir..?my god
@cultureman1857
9 ай бұрын
I didn't know this was a true story lol
@vivettebrown6655
4 ай бұрын
How Phillup came from
@RomarioToretto
4 ай бұрын
The fourth of April is soon many years since he died
@ypree2518
9 ай бұрын
u talk 2 slow, speed it up n stop boring up di video
@victorious6529
3 ай бұрын
Look people. He got the point about rasta versus dread. Find something positive to say about the video. Stop harping on the same words.
@newtonsmith6682
3 ай бұрын
This comment is specifically for my friend...Friend! Do you blame this killing on dancehall music too?
@marty3711
Ай бұрын
Wow
@keithsinclair2768
4 ай бұрын
He doesn't look like no rasta,watch your speech bro don't be disrespectful
@cleverB634
4 ай бұрын
I thought that was just a saying. Didn't knew it was actually real
@lanaranger9770
4 ай бұрын
Up to now I don’t know who phillup is
@ronaldsamuels7286
9 ай бұрын
that is not where the phrase came from get your facts right I've seen this man many times at gold street sea side a dangerous looking man everyone avoid get your facts right
@jdfguthrie
9 ай бұрын
What are the facts sir, don't just spill all that without base
@lavernsmith8699
9 ай бұрын
I am 71. From i was little little people used this saying "from woppy kill Pillop" probable meaning a long time. So which part yu si Whoppy these days?😅 an Phillop probable mean Philip in proper english.
@blackchiney0448
4 ай бұрын
It’s not tht deep.. he probably reading of how the story went… come on guys are we not grown? Too not knw this ? We cuss over n worry about the wrong thing!!Keep up the good work
@carljohnson3774
8 ай бұрын
Mate, you are treating us like we are dunce.☹
@Higher_Sun_Highzak
9 ай бұрын
Every Rasta a original law breaker. Memba i man tell unno dat
@jamesgeorge4075
4 ай бұрын
Dreadlocks that
@jermainestephens3965
3 ай бұрын
Thank for the information cause these I’m hearing whappy and Philope I thought it was some make up stories
@detta4988
9 ай бұрын
Two of the most famous names is jamaica
@bingieroyal7377
9 ай бұрын
Fasi stop calll up rasta name ina u almshouse
@gregoryrc3746
9 ай бұрын
I would still like to know who phillup was
@JamaicanChapter
9 ай бұрын
Indeed. Because the focus was on Whoppy, I avoided locating the death registration forms of the other persons.
@normanbrown9225
9 ай бұрын
NO EVERY NATTY IS A DREAD, NOT EVERY DREAD IS A RASTA, SOME OF THEM ARE BEAST U HAVE FI KNOW THEM PON DE STREET.😢
@mystikraindroptv7767
4 ай бұрын
Where is Phillup grave
@JamaicanChapter
4 ай бұрын
Interesting question. I might re-visit this story by going to there graves
@sashacreary9007
10 ай бұрын
So these were real people???
@JamaicanChapter
10 ай бұрын
Yes, indeed, as is evidenced in the Gleaner and the death registration form I read.
@edneypowell1216
10 ай бұрын
Yes they were. The thing about Whoppy King is that he was Jamaica first badman along with Rygin
@vivettebrown6655
4 ай бұрын
Who is Phillup
@JamaicanChapter
4 ай бұрын
He was Sydney Garel, a 19 years old clerk living in Kingston.
@saulbenjamin6368
9 ай бұрын
I think the prase whoppy kill phillipup is lesson that folks must be all ways be careful wen going out on trips to av fun sumting like dat
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