Could you correct the title, please? Currently it states that this is a discussion of why All Calvinists are not Reformed, which is a very different proposition than saying Not All Calvinists are Reformed, the point you are actually discussing.
@cameronsmyth8565
10 ай бұрын
Good stuff, enjoyed your take on the difference
@kenpofernie6853
9 ай бұрын
For me I'm a calvinist and like reformed teaching but there is disgremen on LBCF 1698 because of that I'm leaving the reformed church they told my wife she can't partake in communi unless baptized in water ,I don't agree that ,and I don't belvie I need to adhere to 1689 confession
@raccafracca940
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic discussion! Thank you so much.
@mysticmouse7261
9 ай бұрын
Sacraments are means of grace. Denying that you have in common with Calvinists. However Calvinism holds doctrines irreconcilable with reform theology like limited atonement and double predestination.
@13kimosabi13
Жыл бұрын
I’m definitely NOT a Calvinist => nor do I let guys like these 3 gentlemen => define and articulate the BOXES everyone is supposed to fit into. Get out the box. I understand it’s easier for these guys to say THEIR BOX is superior => if they get to define YOUR BOX ! I’ve never met any box thinker that can even come close to adequately encompassing all of God’s scripture, covenants, ages and dispensations in a way that harmonizes => truth in love => sufficiently! And yet all or nearly all believe THEY ARE RIGHT and will be the small group that goes to heaven => and I’ve never seen the GOD of my Bible be in their box nor HIM lacking the love, mercy and grace needed to SAVE ALL OF THEM AND all other human/mankind that were/are ENEMIES OF THE CROSS. HE is more than sufficient outside your box thinking….. and always will be!
@mattrollins7506
4 жыл бұрын
Great discussion theologically, of course... but in the great coffee debate, here's another option: Consider getting an insulated tumbler with ceramic interior. You get the smell, and avoid the metallic taste. Brands to look into: Fellow, Sttoke, Frank Greene (technically, Black & White roasters).
@tomtemple69
Жыл бұрын
i just bring my mug with me lol
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266
Жыл бұрын
I would be a moderate Calvinist in my soteriology though primarily Free Grace in it's classic version that includes non-Calvinists and predominantly so today. I certainly don't consider myself Reformed taking a dispensatiional approach though I uphold the 5 Solas and the priesthood of all believers. I attend a non-denominational evangelical church in the U.K. Really good discussion brethren that gave me a clearer understanding of where those who hold to Covenant Theology are coming from. One of those areas we can respectfully agree to disagree on. Much blessing and love the channel. My favourite specifically Reformed one on YT by far.
@toolegittoquit_001
9 ай бұрын
Dispensationalism is sad lie
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266
9 ай бұрын
@toolegittoquit_001 I don't rigidly hold to all aspects of dispensationalism but I like it's overall literal grammatical-historical hermeneutic and general premise of what is being said to who, when and why within the context of the unfolding of God's redemptive purposes. Some go too far in saying what doesn't apply to the church in the present age and coming up with different schemes of salvation for different periods but this is far from held by all, especially in it's classic, revised and progressive expressions. Salvation always has, is and will be by faith alone in the Messiah who has come. I disagree with covenant theology but wouldn't say it is a 'sad lie' and has some pertinent points.
@nangrey7262
Жыл бұрын
Love the coffee example (spiritually). As a potter, coffee is much better, in a ceramic mug! It's against my religion to drink out of anything else. Thank you all for discussing and teaching us. It is much appreciated.
@cindymonk6994
2 жыл бұрын
Slooooooooow start today, but content is worth it.
@bobwood5146
3 жыл бұрын
Where in scripture do you find that God made a convent with Adam and that if Adam had "kept" this covenant he would apparently had "eternal life "etc. What we see as the consequential results of our salvation. I would like to see the scripture and how you are going to connect these dots. I don't want "assumptions" i need to see the scriptures that teach this as plane as scriptures teach other doctrines.
@jasonalun
Жыл бұрын
Amen, thank you sir! I'm getting so tired of Covenant Theology folks acting like they have a monopoly on the Reformation Heritage. Covenant Theology is a flawed, man-made Systematic Theology framework that leads people AWAY from the sufficiency and supremacy of Christ in Scripture. It burdens believers with the Law of Moses, which you are told is still in force, only "administered" under the New Covenant. NO, NO, NO! The New Covenant is a NEW Covenant, "not like the covenant I made with [Israel]..when I took them by the hand out of the land of Egypt" Jer. 31:31-32 The old Covenant is passed away - become obsolete! (Hebrews 8:13)
@lynnstewart4398
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm just being thick headed, but you define reformed theology, but I didn't get where you described how Calvinism could be different from reformed. I describe myself as a Calvinistic dispensationist, so I'm interested in the idea that being Calvinistic doesn't always have to go with being covenantal. Thanks!
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
This episode will answer that question kzitem.info/news/bejne/xW6qmJ2giGJnno4
@strykerdawn1
3 жыл бұрын
If you are a dispensationalist you aren't reformed, you are just Calvinist.
@christopherskipp1525
Жыл бұрын
@@THEOCAST Then what is this video about? Its title is apparently fraudulent.
@craigerc713
10 ай бұрын
@christopherskipp1525 actually they do explain it in this video too.
@evanwildermann7034
7 ай бұрын
Is this not just early evangelical theology I know that reformed and evangelical merged at some point that's why I say that reformed as I know derives from Calvinism but I get that your not actually Calvinist the confusion is from the merging of these churches which honestly should have never happened the church should stay divided on things they don't agree on and not merge it just breeds confusion
@PastorPaulFlynn
3 жыл бұрын
Glass coffee mug is the best for coffee, but yes I agree on the coffee not tasting the best from a travel mug! :)
@BloodBoughtMinistries
3 жыл бұрын
Because we hold to the reformation. The reformation was putting the word of God above Catholicism. It has absolutely nothing to do with John Calvin, he was a little boy during the reformation lead by Martin Luther. It's really ignorant to assume anyone who is reformed is a Calvinist.
@carmensiekierke3579
3 жыл бұрын
@BBM, Did you know Lutherans do not call themselves "Reformed"? It was the Lutherans that came up with the "Calvinist" slur against the Reformed. If you are a Lutheran ( because we hold to the reformation) I suggest you read up on church history. Lutherans are not reformed.
@toolegittoquit_001
9 ай бұрын
Calling Calvin a ‘little boy’ is unnecessary and just highlights the weakness of your post
@MineStrongth
9 ай бұрын
@toolegittoquit_001 Not defending either side here, but Calvin was like 8yrs old when Luther started shaking things up. He was literally a little boy. Wait another 12yrs though and he did get involved. So, on the one hand, there's nothing wrong with what he said, on the other, it does make it sound like the reformation ended before Calvin grew up.
@caman171
Жыл бұрын
I have been fighting these so called "Reformed Baptists" for years. as a Non Calvinist Baptist, I have always made a distinction between being "Reformed" and "Calvinistic". You can NOT be Baptist and Reformed at the same time. Reformed doctrine includes 1. Covenant Theology, mostly interpreted as children of the elect are presumed to also be elect. A real Baptist, even if Calvinistic would deny this 2. Baptists are not sacramental and do not believe they convey any kind of "grace". Baptism and the Lord's Supper are "ordinances" to us (from the word "ordained") 3. Reformed practice infant baptism, as a form of circumcision bringing a child into the "covenant". Baptists reject this for many reasons. 4. Reformed teaches Replacement Theology, the idea that the church is the New Israel. Baptists dont believe in "the Church", a teaching that comes from the perception that the Catholic Church is the true church Christ founded, but went astray, hence needing to be "Reformed". 5. All Reformed churches accept the Ecumenical Creeds, true Baptists do not (tho they may believe in many of the things they teach, they would have a problem with some things they teach) Baptists, by definition are non creedal. We may have confessions, but they can be altered at any time 6. Reformed churches (for the most part) maintain that a hierarchical church govt is necessary for the authority of the "church" to have validity. Baptists would deny this and are congregational. At any rate, even tho I am not a Calvinist, and def not Reformed, I appreciate the distinctions you make. maybe these guys masquerading as Baptists who really want to be Reformed can take the hint. Also, I should tell you that you CAN be Reformed and NOT Calvinist as well. The Cumberland Presbyterians are Reformed, but not Calvinist. If you want me to tell you about them holler
@rogindaUP
9 ай бұрын
Well put, brother!
@caman171
9 ай бұрын
@@rogindaUP Thanks brother! Theres a reason I am Baptist and not Reformed! Wish I could teach Baptists more about their history, the many different kinds of Baptists, and why none of them, if true Baptists, are Reformed!
@Over-for-now
11 ай бұрын
The obsession with calvin is so ungodly. God is absolutely sovereign and HE will keep ALL HIS counsels. He knows the number of hairs on your head. He knows the bird that falls. Paul was a chosen vessel and he knew God chose him kicking and screaming. He hated everything about God
@beautifullife8733
3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! Can I ask a question? So what is your "position" (all of you) in terms of Eschatology? Thanks and God bless you all. - From Philippines 😍
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
Our ministry does not hold to one position. Most of the guys on the podcast hold to an Amil view.
@commanderNSO
4 жыл бұрын
So what would be some good examples of people, denominations, or movements that are cal-evangel?
@autisticheadscarf
3 жыл бұрын
I’d say John MacArthur and John Piper
@Jonathan_Gen.15.6
Ай бұрын
So are all Reformed adherents Calvinist? (Just deduced based on your title)
@joshuawoodin
5 ай бұрын
This is way more confusing then i thought it would be, so i dont understand what the clear destination is ?
@angramp3430
3 жыл бұрын
I hear what you're saying but getting over the concept of personal bible reading not being as important as the sacraments is kind of difficult
@gregoryw9
3 жыл бұрын
Understandable, it would be for a non-Reformed Calvinist because of the emphasis on the Word. But the sacraments are meant to be helpful signs of what they signify. The sacraments also counter a modern individualism by emphasising the corporate gathering
@angramp3430
3 жыл бұрын
@@gregoryw9 I think I grasp what was said now. I'm kinda new to the Reformed Faith and it has challenged me in many ways.
@jayman1338
Жыл бұрын
I agree, it’s hard to drink coffee out of a travelers mug. I feel the drinking hole is too small or something…But I do like it for a car ride lol
@swiftbear
3 жыл бұрын
Now I'm really confused, I have no clue what I am. I believe in the 5 solas, have a different understanding of Calvin's 5 points or disagree to a few and hold to a dispensational view on literal interpretation of prophecy. And pre-trib and pre-millennial O.o
@strykerdawn1
3 жыл бұрын
You aren't reformed that is for sure.
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266
Жыл бұрын
I would be the same as yourself. Definitely not Reformed but Calvinistic (moderately) in areas of soteriology. I watched another video today on the Right Response YT channel which is post-millennial and theonomic. Being dispensational, that is far from my view on eschatology. Anyhow, the host made a distinction between Reformed Baptists and Calvinistic Baptists in a similar manner to these brethren. I would fall in with the latter as you would too apparently.
@TTZornes
3 жыл бұрын
I still wish I understood the difference between Calvinism and Reformation. Summarize and get to the point.
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
What is Reformed Theology? | THEOCAST
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/z3mkx2qsa2p6o34
@jayman1338
Жыл бұрын
Ordinary means. What does that mean?
@DH-sj6kg
2 жыл бұрын
Will there be people in hell who believed they were saved by trusting in Christ’s death, burial and resurrection alone, apart from works, as payment for their sins?
@sparky4581
2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a church in my city who believes in covenant theology and nope all are dispensational or cultish. i honestly can't see how anyone can be dispensational for long periods of time.
@cbwilson2398
Жыл бұрын
How did "Calvinism" get reduced to the five points, when his Institutes are over 1500 pages long?
@caman171
Жыл бұрын
the proper term for someone who is NOT Reformed, would be "calvinistic" meaning soteriology but not all the rest that comes from being Reformed. so soteriologically you can be calvnist or arminian, altho those of us who call ourselves "Provisionists" or "Non Calvinists" would say we are neither
@paultrosclair1775
3 жыл бұрын
How are you going to "help others find rest in Christ" as a Reformed Theology person ????
@Vic-dl7wq
3 жыл бұрын
Is being Calvinist more than just affirming TULIP?
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
Being reformed is more then just affirm TULIP
@Vic-dl7wq
3 жыл бұрын
@@THEOCAST yes I understand being Reformed is more than being Calvinist. I'm not asking about being Reformed. I'm asking is being Calvinist more than just affirming TULIP. Similarly how being Reformed is more than just affirming TULIP, is being Calvinist more than just affirming TULIP. It's a genuine question.
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
That's a tough question. Historically they were never separated. But many to say affirm the 5 points and reject the rest of Reformed Theology. So at the least, it's affirming TULIP
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
This is what the video is about
@Vic-dl7wq
3 жыл бұрын
@@THEOCAST I watched the video. It explains that reformed theology includes calvinism but is more than calvinism. It doesn't address whether calvinism includes TULIP but is more than just TULIP.
@ryanjamietaylor1134
Жыл бұрын
Mugs are so superior but I have to warm it up 15688 times 🤪 Team Mug.. especially adorable Christmas ones
@jovianleong4651
3 жыл бұрын
Would it be a better phrasing.. All calvinist are reformed, but not all reformed are calvinist??
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
No, all reformed are calvinist, but not all calvinist are reformed. We would recommend our 5 points of reformed theology, might be helpful video
@modern_jacob
4 жыл бұрын
Pro Pre-Heat Mug.
@swiftbear
3 жыл бұрын
Yeap, I figured this out after like 20 years drinking coffee lol
@danielblakeney7575
4 жыл бұрын
Is JP's hat new?
@THEOCAST
4 жыл бұрын
We can make this available on our website! Stay tuned
@danielblakeney7575
4 жыл бұрын
@@THEOCAST Awesome sauce! Thank you!
@paultrosclair1775
3 жыл бұрын
Hebrews 2:9 KJVS But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for EVERY MAN. ( all caps mine ) He is the propitiation for the WHOLE WORLD ! 1 John 2:2 KJVS And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. John 1:6-7 KJVS There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. [7] The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 2 Peter 3:9 KJVS The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, BUT THAT ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE. 1 Timothy 4:10 KJVS For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJVS Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. [5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; [6] Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
@webstercat
8 ай бұрын
I came here to get some insight but can’t follow. Too deep in the bushes. Like hearing engineers talking amongst each other.
@gavinadams4572
Жыл бұрын
I was part of a reformed church in Scotland who followed the ways of the scottish covenanters,many were calvinists,personally i just believe the Bible and keep it simple,they probably all thought i was a calvinist lol.
@craigerc713
10 ай бұрын
That's what's awesome about Reformed Calvinism. They just believe the bible and keep it simple.
@kenpofernie6853
9 ай бұрын
Not true from what I seen its the bible plus LbCf 1689
@bradhouston4734
3 жыл бұрын
I’m bloated RIGHT now!! Sad, sad, sad
@lindahartranft9135
6 ай бұрын
Sorry, guys! We came on here to hear some serious discussion about why (you claim) Calvinism and Reformed theology is not the same thing. I’m 3:48 minutes in and you’re talking nonsense. Not worthy of my time.
@jamessheffield4173
Жыл бұрын
There are also Anglicans that are Calvinists. Blessings.
@emmanuelibus
4 жыл бұрын
So, are you folks calvinists?
@THEOCAST
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@THEOCAST
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. To be reformed is to be a calvinist
@nickduke3214
Жыл бұрын
😂
@lorenzabryant4135
Жыл бұрын
1John 2:2-4 kjv "2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." "3 And whereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. " "4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." Read your Bibles please. Pray for insight to God's will in the name of Jesus, amen.
@timharris2291
2 жыл бұрын
One-trick ponies. Reformed == that which the Reformed church affirms, i.e. a formal idea. Calvinist == Regulative Principle of Worship/aseity of God, i.e. the principle material concept that distinguishes Calvin's thought from others. They don't even scratch the surface.
@cbwilson2398
Жыл бұрын
Men, do you have to have facial hair to be reformed these days?
@jasonalun
Жыл бұрын
Wow, can't be Reformed without being Covenant Theologian? That's nonsense. The Reformers themselves were not "Covenant Theologians!" Covenant Theology didn't come into being really as a fully articulated system until the seventeenth century. The Reformers were sixteenth century.
@toolegittoquit_001
9 ай бұрын
Well, they certainly weren’t Dispensationalists …..
@jeffouellette9946
Жыл бұрын
See you're not even making sense those that believe in reformed theology are the ones that are Calvinists
@toolegittoquit_001
9 ай бұрын
Not all Calvinists are Reformed 🤦🏻♂️
@paultrosclair1775
3 жыл бұрын
LOL !!!
@Landis_Grant
Жыл бұрын
What a bunch of Hell bound Calvinists/Reformers joking about drinking bourbon and beers!
@Mic1904
Жыл бұрын
Will they be going to the same Hell that Jesus presumably went to, as a drinker?
@Over-for-now
11 ай бұрын
When people know they are wrong they get real silly and laugh with calvinist foolishness
@LivingEpistles444
5 ай бұрын
These r brothers in Christ.. why r u saying they r hell bound? Because they drink a beer? That's not the gospel.
@Landis_Grant
5 ай бұрын
@@LivingEpistles444 Did I sag anything about the Gospel? “By their fruits shall you know them”. So called brothers in Christ intentionally abusing their bodies which is the temple of the Holy Spirit can hardly lead atheists to Christ.
@LivingEpistles444
5 ай бұрын
@@Landis_Grant you are implying they aren't saved by saying "brothers". So you are speaking of the gospel. The issue I find with your camp, is you all never keep reading or read things in context... keep reading that same chapter and it defines what "fruit" is. 34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. Fruit in CONTEXT is not actions. It is what they SAY or TEACH. Drinking alcohol is not sinful if one doesn't get drunk. It may be sinful for someone like myself that has had issues with alcoholism. But for those who don't have a conviction there isn't a commandment not to drink alcohol. Hence why I said your gospel is wrong.. it isn't believe on the Son of God and depart from drinking alcohol, or depart from anything. That's discipleship, not salvation. Going back to alcohol, I bet you think everytime Jesus drank wine, it was just grape juice that hadn't fermented. Go study it out. God gave alcohol as a gift to mankind. Mankind uses the gifts and blessing of God for evil because of our sinful nature. But drinking a few beers or a small glass of bourbon when It doesn't lead to drunken states of consciousness is not sin, and moreover it doesn't undo salvation... nothing can.
@GordonA-Jr
Жыл бұрын
Wow how many straw men and misrepresentations of what a genuine Calvinist is can you fit in, especially without really addressing Calvinism. I guess only Reformed folks can have rest and assurance and Calvinists bludgeon people but Reformed folks never do. It’s so rare to find folks who are willing AND able to be balanced and accurate when addressing a topic like this, hopefully someday you will.
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