This video took approximately 48 hours to upload from my phone on Spanish internet! Stay tuned for some future episodes exploring the Parajet factory in the UK as well as some epic flying in Spain. Also, if you're looking for a drinking game, drink every time I say "electric paramotor." - tuckergott.com/collections/all
@peterduncan1436
4 жыл бұрын
Hyperbole
@EvanRobinson85
4 жыл бұрын
If you ever want a little change of pace, when you're down in Florida visiting the Aviator crew, you should get in touch with me and I'll show you some cool Florida caves and springs. I live in Brooksville and own a cave I've been digging open for about 7 years now.
@daryletaylor4067
4 жыл бұрын
I tried your drinking game. I died. ☠️👻
@Marcus2750-u1t
4 жыл бұрын
Tucker Gott Hey I was wondering if you could discuss what the procedure is if you are flying electric or gas and your motor catches fire??
@TequillanSunrise
4 жыл бұрын
LOL @ drinking game
@timinwsac
4 жыл бұрын
If you are concerned about weight and flight time with electrics just ditch the batteries and use an extension cord.
4 жыл бұрын
An alternative is charging your battery pack in a microwave oven. 1000W for 45 mins should do the trick. Oh and stand close.
@timinwsac
4 жыл бұрын
@ LOL
@Nightstick24
4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA, I died. Imagine someone flying around with a gigantic powercord just dangling there.
@bland9876
4 жыл бұрын
@@Nightstick24 and then the person died when the power cord got sucked into the propeller entangling it up and he crashed.
@richardmillhousenixon
4 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see what people could accomplish for hybrid paramotors. Tiny efficient engine powering 2 alternators/magnetos (for redundancy) which themselves power an electric motor
@hover2652
4 жыл бұрын
You’re the person that got me into paramotors and now I want to start lessons. Thank you
@4x4_Adventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he got me into it to my wife is getting me lessons for my birthday!
@luna.midnight8026
4 жыл бұрын
It looks really fun but I’m to scared to do it
@hangshotgamer2179
4 жыл бұрын
Same, I cant wait to start lessons
@Juiceboxdan72
4 жыл бұрын
I am jelly that you are getting lessons lol
@fixedguitar47
4 жыл бұрын
I’m in class this summer due to these guys making these silly videos!
@mekkler
4 жыл бұрын
According to other reviews I've seen, another huge benefit to electric is that it turns off completely and can re-start instantly while flying creating free air time. With good power management this should extend the flight time a lot, plus it's QUIET.
@barackollama6568
4 жыл бұрын
electric never gives extended time on anything.... anything that runs on gas will last longer before refueling
@pauljs75
4 жыл бұрын
@@barackollama6568 He's saying for flight that's completely unpowered for the majority of time in the air though. Not sure if paras can thermal, but perhaps slope soaring in a location that would have ridge lift? Would allow you to do that when there's no good launch points otherwise. Treat it more like an unpowered chute, but run time only for doing power climbs.
@austinsmith9413
4 жыл бұрын
@@barackollama6568 find me a gas powered hypercar that can do 0-60 in 1.9s plus have a 250+ mph top speed and have a 600+ mile range like the Tesla roadster. Lol
@austinsmith9413
4 жыл бұрын
@@davejames2015 the bugatti only gets 2 mpg at 250mph and 11mpg at 50mph. So the Tesla roadster isn't that bad. Plus it is basically cross between a hypercar and a sedan. Finally it is 1/7 the cost of a comparable hypercar.
@austinsmith9413
4 жыл бұрын
@@davejames2015 based on the drag coefficient it needs less than 1100hp or 800kw to maintain 250 mph. It has a 200kw battery pack so it could maintain full throttle for around 20 minutes under full load assuming that at 1.5c it looses 20% capacity. That would give it nearly twice the range at 250mph of any bugatti.
@johnmagic4345
4 жыл бұрын
Tucker, I emailed you this morning. I fly an Open PPg X-4 V3. I live an hour away from you in Bucks County, Pa. You are welcome to take my X-4 for a test flight. John Magdic
@lordmalix3141
4 жыл бұрын
Has he flown already with it
@joehartoon
4 жыл бұрын
Let's see it! C'mon Tucker!
@tubbiezofficial8975
4 жыл бұрын
TUCKER TUCKER TUCKER!!!!
@chase_doesburg8533
4 жыл бұрын
🤨
@washingtonneves2933
4 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay for yours? Do you like it??
@dennisnoble7116
4 жыл бұрын
It’s worth noting that battery energy density has been improving at a rate of about 6% annually for the last 100 years or so. At that rate electric power systems will match their gas counterparts in terms of total energy available (for the same weight) in about 15 years. Keep in mind that gas engines are only about 35% efficient (2 strokes even less) vs some electric motors at well over 90% efficient. Also on the noise part: The electric aircraft I’ve seen were just as loud as their gas counterparts up close but once you put a little distance between you and the electric plane the noise level dropped to the point where you almost couldn’t hear it. With noise complaints being one of the biggest reasons flying sites get shut down I think this will be one of the biggest advantages to electric flight.
@baz1184
4 жыл бұрын
Once we make the leap to solid state batteries they will at least double current capacity. They will render gas vehicles obsolete.
@shawnd567
4 жыл бұрын
Battery energy density will not match gasoline in 15 years. That's a guarantee. Heck they're still using lead acid in cars and lithium packs in phones.
@bossmcasskick4051
4 жыл бұрын
I studied energy tech (energy production etc.) and that 90% effeciency is only on bigger industrial scale motors that are too heavy for flight. But maybe 70-80% is closer to the truth.
@you_just
4 жыл бұрын
shawn d I think OP was referring specifically to bleeding edge batteries.
@niclas3672
3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnd567 No, but due to the much higher efficiency it essentially will. Batteries only need to have around a third the energy density to match gasoline. Since most of the energy is wasted in a gasoline engine, but less than 10% is wasted with electric. It's gonna happen. It is already happening. The trend is continuing and batteries are becoming more energy dense.
@jasonwinterboer5232
4 жыл бұрын
Tucker, you are so well-spoken! I just watch your videos for fun (I'm not part of the paramotor community, not really planning on it), but I love watching your informative videos like this because you teach so eloquently. It's honestly quite impressive! Keep up the good work!!
@oey192
4 жыл бұрын
So… basically sounds like once the battery tech gets there, everyone will want electric paramotors
@dieselgeezer18
4 жыл бұрын
the gas are still more powerful tho
@oey192
4 жыл бұрын
Only due to the limitations of the batteries. Once we achieve better energy density per weight then you can feed more power to the electric motor(s) and match the gas power. I’m sure you could easily exceed current gas paramotors but I doubt that would do you much good as I assume you start running into regulation problems and/or there just not being any point in having that much power available
@immrfun
4 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@YounesLayachi
4 жыл бұрын
Everyone will want electric motors for all small vehicles really
@NLspartan117
4 жыл бұрын
Currently gas energy density is about 60 times as much as battery energy density. Still if they would manage to increase the flight time to 3 hours that would be fine by me.
@lucuspritchard935
4 жыл бұрын
"current" state of electric paramotors.. 😁 I like that haha
@jeffpeff
4 жыл бұрын
I got a “charge” out of that! 😁
@lucuspritchard935
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they 'amp'd' up the price of one 😆.... 'watt' am I saying.. Ofcourse they did 😂
@jamesschaeffer1770
4 жыл бұрын
Some people on this thread have a remarkable "capacity" for overcoming "resistance."
@lucuspritchard935
4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesschaeffer1770 hahaha good one!! 😆 On that note im off 'ohm' 😂
@razzer98987
4 жыл бұрын
He seems less than amped about them!
@in4theride75
4 жыл бұрын
The biggest advantage I see to electric paramotors is that you could make them modular. Modular battery packs, modular prop configs, modular motor selection. You could literally plug and play components to alter cost, weight, power, and flight characteristics.
@grejen711
4 жыл бұрын
@7:13 this is my situation exactly. As a noob I have the OpenPPG X4 with four LiPo batteries good for max 20 mins. But I can fly a very reliably, clean, light (50lbs) machine. There is no torque to deal with. It's very easy to operate.
@rodrigue_fnh
4 жыл бұрын
Finally 🙌🙌 !!! He is definitely talking about the "openPGG X4" electric ppg with the counter rotating motors and folding frame. I follow their projects and hope to buy one soon
@classqairspace
4 жыл бұрын
Couple of other neat or unneat things I've encountered flying them: Best clutch ever: electric engines are perfectly happy not spinning the prop. This is great for everything between launching and beginner pilots with line worries. Clutch 2: you can program a prop hold function. No freewheeling prop while gliding. Software reliability: depending on how handy you are with a wrench vs a USB cable, you might find this world easier to work with. If a gas motor doesn't start, I troubleshoot fuel air spark. If my electric paramotor doesn't start, it's a very different pathway. Check the battery, check the connections, reset the firmware, etc. Power drain: depending on how the thing is programmed, you might feel your motor getting weaker as you run your battery down. Temperature: Very similar to the car world. On one hand, they are far nicer to start than a two stroke on a cold day. On the other hand, the battery has a lot less juice when cold, and some lock out the battery at a certain temperature to prevent damage.
@brownp93
4 жыл бұрын
Tucker throwing Tesla's out there hoping the Musk captures the PPG market haha
@floatyseagull9472
4 жыл бұрын
bruh if they can drive a fucking car with batteries, im pretty sure they're capable of creating lightweight high fuel batteries for paramotors
@RichardAmmo1
3 жыл бұрын
HaHaHaHa!! IT CAN happen!
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
3 жыл бұрын
@@floatyseagull9472 Tesla cars are so unreliable, Tesla making anything for paramotors which require exacting performance and reliability is something I would stay far away from. People are already getting killed left and right on Musk's driverless cars. Just imagine the dangers of a faulty paramotor engine.
@michaelbartlett1589
2 жыл бұрын
It’s been 2 years. Can we get an update on your opinion on electric vs gas .
@1asdfasdfasdf
4 жыл бұрын
Also worth mentioning is flight time in different temperatures. The colder it is the shorter the flight time.
@PantsOfFlame
4 жыл бұрын
I think that if you keep the batteries in a warm place before flight it doesn't make a difference. They won't have time to cool down that much since using them also produces heat in them.
@1asdfasdfasdf
4 жыл бұрын
@@PantsOfFlame That is in fact what I do with my lipos 😉
@adamjagger3263
4 жыл бұрын
As battery tech improves I bet we will see this phenomenon improve
@1asdfasdfasdf
4 жыл бұрын
@@adamjagger3263 I'm curious to see how graphene batteries do in the cold. From what I've seen so far they charge on a linear curve and also faster overall compared to lipos. They seem very comparible to each other on the discharge side though.
@bippy201
4 жыл бұрын
Shucks I didn’t even think of that. I live in Michigan so I’d need equipment that can handle a variety of temperatures lol
@jaredmogensen302
4 жыл бұрын
Shoutout back at you from Barranco, Lima, Perú!
@patrickfain9318
4 жыл бұрын
The extremely limited flight time is the only reason I won't and can't consider an electric paramotor. I stay in the air as much as possible
@ahaveland
4 жыл бұрын
@Eli Reid At least you can make your own fuel, and it's free.
@StrictlyAwesome
4 жыл бұрын
@Eli Reid and swapping batteries would be a PITA because they're fairly heavy
@pauliusvildzevicius3826
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long it will take to create a wing with solar panels to increase the flight time :D
@ahaveland
4 жыл бұрын
@@pauliusvildzevicius3826 20m³ of real estate is a lot of available power if panels and cables could be made light enough, but that may never be physically achievable for a self inflating parafoil that has to be as light as possible. Solar Impulse II managed it with hard glider wings, but the level of design and cost was pretty extreme!
@ChessMasterNate
4 жыл бұрын
@Eli Reid Could have more than one battery pack.
@tompenfold5367
4 жыл бұрын
Big pro on electric engines is less moving parts! So easier and cheaper to work on and replace, also not as hot while running.
@thelifeofjustin7516
2 жыл бұрын
and less fun at work..
@hardknocknewshkn639
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tucker , I’m deciding to either get back into Scuba Diving or trying to fly ? I enjoy your videos and get a ton of good information from them , so either way , enjoy your day bud !
@skydance8017
4 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to get ahold of Siemens or Magnax motors (which have very high energy density output, as in 5 to 15kw/kg) and design a hybrid (ultra small fuel combustion engine/genset to provide the electrical power for these light weight motors and maybe even combine that with a very light weight battery (or super battery/capacitor?) system/configuration for reserve or limited power usage on demand while the engine is off.). There remains unlimited possibilities...
@KhaleedAiril
4 жыл бұрын
why do we still clinging on the idea of hybrids. if the tech is there might as well go full electric or efficient gas ice. it waste more energy to generate electric and convert that electric to kinetic.
@skydance8017
4 жыл бұрын
@@KhaleedAiril True.
@eeeezypeezy
3 жыл бұрын
Been wanting to save up for training and some starter equipment, and I'd been considering going electric thanks to the fact a lot of them are collapsible and I don't have a truck or a trailer. Thanks for this fair comparison of the pros and cons of gas and electric, lots to think about.
@sandorrendeczky8549
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, you nailed it! The reason electric paramotors don't interest me at the moment is flight time. Same reasons you stated. And dude, you totally surprised everyone with your trip to the U.K. and Spain! I love it when you do something that surprises everyone! LOL. Looking forward to seeing those videos! And, 48 hours to upload? Wow! Spain needs faster internet!
@dieselgeezer18
4 жыл бұрын
don't forget charging time
@cammiescorner
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm super interested in possibly getting a paramotor, and an electric one sounds really nice, if it weren't for flight time. I'd definitely wanna be up in the air for longer periods of time as I get more comfortable with flying.
@joshmnky
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think you mentioned instant on/off.
@iant720
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t fly all the time, so I like the ability to just throw the electric compact one in my truck and go. No maintenance, no extra work. Just grab and go. Also the pure silent ability. I’m excited to see how these progress in a few years!
@pfcpdh
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this^. There’s like 90% less hassle with electric, no gas fumes stinking up your car etc.
@robertwren2289
3 жыл бұрын
This video was made a year ago, I hope by now they have hit you up to review one. I think an electric would be great for Jaclyn. Short flights, and the lighter wait would work well for her.
@john3Lee
4 жыл бұрын
Good overview - However, I still want to see you fly electric !!
@stevetproject
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tucker, love your stuff. Dude, when I was in what you guys call 5th grade, our computer filled up a whole room, had about 1kb of memory, was programmed using 1s & 0s & took daaayyyysss to add 2+2 together. I'm pretty sure we'll crack the battery problem soon. We're working on using Graphene right now, so hang in there....
@pfcpdh
4 жыл бұрын
More than anything, where EPMs really shine is ease of use. Entrants to the sport will appreciate that more than anyone. Flight time is lower on the list of priorities for a new pilot.
@PJ_PARA
3 жыл бұрын
But an instructor with, say, 4 students at any one time would probably find this unworkable. With gas powered you can refuel in a minute or two with a jerry can and a jiggle tube. With electric powered, out in a field somewhere, the instructor would need multiple spare batteries, and have to mess about swapping them out (or have multiple motors which is a big up front capital expense).
@1978sjt
2 жыл бұрын
Another issue of electric vs liquid fuel motors is turnaround. If you use all your fuel, takes a few mins to refill the tank and your off again. Electric will have a longer charge time, and need access to power to provide the charge (which in the middle of nowhere probably means a liquid fuel generator). In some cases (like lawnmowers) this can be compensated with battery swaps, but not always (like an electric car).
@thedevilsadvocate886
4 жыл бұрын
Electric motors are much cheaper to run and have a much longer life. And when there is a revolution in battery tech, all you gotta do is change your batteries and you got better flight time.
@TheGreatPurpleFerret
4 жыл бұрын
The revolution in battery tech has been five years away since the 1950s. It could legitimately be five years away today or it could be fifty or it could never improve even another 50%.
@thedevilsadvocate886
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGreatPurpleFerret for sure. There is definitely a lot of optimism. That being said, never become has billions been invested in things like solid state batteries. Companies like tesla, honda, and gm all getting in the game.... Also a lot of battery tech since the 50s. Now pretty much all golf cars are battery powered as well as most tools. You're absolutely right - batteries are the future but not necessarily around the corner.
@christopherwilkening7843
4 жыл бұрын
I would also guess that you could upgrade the batteries in a few years to get longer flight times as that becomes available.
@WireBug
3 жыл бұрын
Tucker, your videos are great. I know nothing of this sport but you explain things very well and you clearly have a passion for flying paramotors.
@TequillanSunrise
4 жыл бұрын
Actually this is a coffee connoisseur channel that also loves paramotors.
@oceanbytez847
3 жыл бұрын
My biggest goal is to get lightweight flexible solar cell material made so that you could theoretically charge the EPPG in flight with the wing itself. Its got a good surface area to at least extend your range. Idk how viable it is rn but its a winning concept that needs a serious look to determine the viability of it. Also graphine has shown promising boosts in battery power over the past few years that could help it be better.
@davidaven355
2 жыл бұрын
We drove to Galveston Island in Texas where a relative was retiring from a business on the strip on the East end. We took over the shop and began. There was a guy from Corpus Christie who kept wanting to buy the rights for twenty thousand or something and kept getting turned down. Eventually after the copy rights were sold for forty thousand. We were outlawed in Galveston when a guy flew into an electric wire and died. Nobody knew how else to think of it but blamed us. That is about the time we sold the rights and it sprang up in Corpus Christi.
@ipodboy43
Жыл бұрын
3 years on, with SP140 Electric Paramotor V1.2 - Would you consider electric now with the 1 hour+ flight time
@ohGr_notsuoh
4 жыл бұрын
Swap out the Chase Cam for a wind turbine. Charge the batteries as you fly. You need to figure out at what speed will you generate more power then you are using. Better yet turn off the electric motor and glide to quick charge the batteries with your new Gott Wind Chase Turbine. BOOM!!! Love your channel
@GrowingAnswers
4 жыл бұрын
Electric motors use no power while idle unlike gas. It’s one thing that’s not really thought about when using tools like chainsaws and weed eaters. So there’s no need to kill the motor while gliding from altitude and no need to worry about it possibly not restarting. Battery tech will get better and eventually be the better choice. As of now, liquid fuel has a higher energy density. But most of my my flights were only 20 minutes anyway so that’s pretty enticing to try electric.
@beausmith6544
4 жыл бұрын
Hey tucker! Been here since 50k. Just wanted to stop in and say that I love your videos and please dont feel the need to take any risks to entertain your viewers. We love your content and you as a creator, and we'd all like to see you be able to continue making videos. Blue skies and tailwinds.
@davidh7636
Жыл бұрын
If you enjoy changing parts, cracking exhaust, tuning and retuning your engine, mixing fuel, spilling fuel, cleaning off sticky smelling residue, changing fuel lines and bulbs, and love to spend your hours removing carbon deposits, striping bolts, changing belts a two smoke is the way to go. And, best to learn a good prayer as you try to restart your engine in flight. That's why I'm not flying a two smoker.
@lobbyrobby
9 ай бұрын
As someone who is thinking about getting into this sport I'm leaning towards electric. 45 mins of flight time would be perfect for me as I'm pressed for time in the first place. The thought of little to no maintenance is also a deciding factor. I'd never own a electric car but a paramotor just makes sense. Much like a electric chainsaw I bought. The gas one was always giving me issues.
@badsamaritan8223
11 ай бұрын
I think a big thing about Electrics, is that as battery technology improves, so does your paramotor. You could buy a cheap paramotor today, that has below average power and range, and in 5-10 years, upgrade the battery and suddenly your paramotor has twice the range and power. I also think electric paramotor companies really need to lean into the utility of the large batteries required for flight, design them with alternative use in mind. Running your electric cooktop, kettle, cooler, etc off of it when you're not flying, and being able to charge action cams and other devices on the go. As far as sound goes, I think the huge difference, is that your electric doesn't idle when you coast, while a gas has to keep idling, so the sound of the gas motor idling is going to always be there, even when you're just coasting, while an electric is completely silent, because it shuts off entirely.
@Giblet535
4 жыл бұрын
Nearly all the battery drain will occur during the launch and initial climb. So, hybrids will likely be the first popular electric. A "Blackhawk Prius", or "Vitorazzi Insight" if you will. A small gas motor to handle climbing and reserve, plus counter-rotating electric for the insane stunts. A 30 minute battery used to ground launch becomes a 120 minute battery if it first starts running at 2,000 feet.
@thegeniusfool
2 жыл бұрын
Nobody in this community comes close to you w.r.t. combination of educational and interesting content. Kudos!
@G_Money72
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like you need to partner with Scout and find that magic combo. I can’t imagine they aren’t at least looking at the option.
@michaelkennedy2528
4 жыл бұрын
Damn Prius paramotor lol
@johnmurray7108
4 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome to have a hybrid of sorts or even have a solar (in flight) charge capability for electric!
@austinsmith9413
3 жыл бұрын
As someone deveoping prototype endurance electric paramotors for a paramotor manufacturer, how long of flight times would you want before you would consider going electric? Do take into account that an electric paramotor is about 10x cheaper to run (about 3x cheaper if you include battery degradation and replacement) and it will be quieter, safer, more reliable, have zero maintenance, and produce more thrust than a gas equivalent.
@DBartWest
4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Very fair and complete.
@davecisneros5285
4 жыл бұрын
Another electric disadvantage would be "refueling" for fun stop and go trips, like the McDonalds run. Gas stations are everywhere and can be used to plan stops. Electric not only takes potentially awkward charging permission but LOTS of time and probably a heavy and not very portable charging system. Not a deal breaker but not only will flight times be less but it all has to be done within range of home base.
@quantumbits
4 жыл бұрын
With solar panels the charging system is everywhere you are! No need to drive to a charging station. As the battery is replaceable. Several can be charged or be charging while one is flying. Cheaper in the long run.
@davidrichards2237
4 жыл бұрын
The Electric paramotors are not like EV's. Their charging systems are better than you would think.
@dieselgeezer18
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidrichards2237 EV's have better charging systems
@dieselgeezer18
4 жыл бұрын
@@quantumbits You are so wrong. The solar panel adds lots of weight and reliability issues. Also solar panels are expensive and the charge of the solar panel is not enough to keep the battery charged. You would need many of them which won't fit on the frame. Do some research. Also, you said "Several can be charged or be charging while one is flying". Well its stupid to go back home and take the battery. What if you are on a long flight and don't want to go back home. That limits you. With a gas, you fill the tank and you can take 1 more liter of fuel in your backpack inside a bottle which is very lightweight. Or stop to a fuel station
@quantumbits
4 жыл бұрын
@@dieselgeezer18 Uhm...The solar panels stay on the ground or top of the van and batteries charge anytime, while traveling even Empty batteries exchanged for charged in a moment. . and since the energy s free they will pay for themselves in just a few uses.
@quickdry3
4 жыл бұрын
perhaps not a consideration for many - but electric paramotors can be packed in as regular luggage on a flight, whereas the rules say that a gas engine needs to be pretty much stripped to dry as they can deny it for fuel/oil smells. So long as you make the battery into packs that are under 100Wh per pack, then connect them up later, you can take as much "fuel" as you can carry on the plane. I agree about the simplicity and speed of refueling a gas engine - you just can't pack that much energy density in a battery. I don't think regenerative tech will be of much benefit, but simple folding/feathering props combined with only drawing power while actually running should improve the flight situation.
@monono954
4 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, energy density isn't the word you mean, you mean specific energy.
@glenjamindle
4 жыл бұрын
Tucker: Electric paramotors can't keep up with gas Elon: Challange accepted
@simpilot001
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@quasarsavage
2 жыл бұрын
If they can get it up to an 75 mins then it will be gold. Can't wait for the end of fuel and maintence engines with carbs and crap
@blue_beephang-glider5417
2 жыл бұрын
Electric would be perfect for gaining height for thermal flying the instant reliable on off control would mean whenever you were just above the deck you could switch on and have another go.
@autolode4215
4 жыл бұрын
with the advent of new flexible solar panel technology it is theoretically possible to charge while flying / soaring so if you could use electric power to find thermal lift you could recharge while soaring and then use powered flight after all thermals are exhausted
@shaun6828
3 жыл бұрын
Clearly efficiency is the main goal right now, but I can see noise reduction more getting attention as batteries improve. Considering that batteries can be placed anywhere, I wonder if it would be better to have a pack down on the side of each leg. It would help bring that center of gravity lower and reduce the weight on your upper body in harder landing.
@Anthony_DP
Жыл бұрын
Would love an update on your thoughts again and see if there are any other new ones you can review for us. Many thanks sir.
@kelly5049
3 жыл бұрын
You should add the consideration of refueling. Cross-country, forget it. You have to wait hours to charge, which you must also carry, adding weight reducing flight time, etc.
@dieselgeezer18
4 жыл бұрын
because gas engines have more moving parts it doesn't mean they are less reliable. I have small water pump engines which are 30+ years old with hours of use
@lookronjon
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tucker. This is a good subject to bring up. Battery tech is still going. Glass electrolytes are coming soon. That will change electric technology. It might allow longer flights with low weight gain. If you have a battery that weighs the same as two gallons of gas, you have lots of reserve power. The battery can be slung low and with a quick release in case of battery failure. Electronic battery temp gauge on throttle would be a good thing to have.
@FEETLE
3 жыл бұрын
Yes range anxiety is definitely an issue with any electrified vehicles( cars, boats, motocycles, and planes) battery technology has to improve..
@Area13ebikes
4 жыл бұрын
Someone stopped by my shop asking about parts for an electric paramotor (I build ebikes though... but have looked into it!). He watched your channel as do I. If I do try a paramotor, it WILL be electric!
@ChessMasterNate
4 жыл бұрын
There are a few advantages I think he missed. As others have mentioned, not affected by lower oxygen due to altitude, and no pull starting. But in addition you can have your paramotor in your van rather than on the back where someone might steal it as there are no fuel vapors. There is the possibility of solar charging from a solar system on the roof of a camper or van. With multiple motors the air flow can be more natural as the pilot blocks the air flow somewhat with a single blade on their back with gas but electric props can get more direct air that is already moving in the desired direction. There are possibilities of burning yourself with a gas motor as they get hot and the exhaust gets very hot. I think the biggest advantage is that it should be able to operate thousands of hours rather than hundreds of hours. And for me personally I am allergic to 2-stroke. I feel sick for weeks if I get too much of that exhaust. This is the biggest reason I don't have one yet. A four stroke or propane/natural gas could work fine but I haven't seen any out there. Though, I remember him visiting a company working on a 4-stroke. The power density has to be pretty high, so not real easy to just slap something together. And there would have to light tanks if I was using propane. Maybe a bunch of those little ones strung together. Last I heard they were only getting about 12-15 minutes per flight from electric. 45 minutes doesn't sound terrible. And with solid state lithium batteries potentially doubling that or more...looking forward to that. And I am not sure I buy that it is only a little quieter. I also wonder if it is possible to make a much quieter propeller, where that would then clearly not be true.
@MrEye4get
4 жыл бұрын
Batteries are still the major limiter with electric engines. Unless they develop can a light wing that is also huge solar panel, flight times will be quite limited. I purchased an electric lawn mower (cordless/rechargeable) that lasted less than a year! My 6-year old 2-stroke gas mower fired up right way and runs perfectly.
@joshuapatrick682
4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention how batteries are made, the mining involved in getting the materials to make them and the fact they need to be charged by plugging in to a socket which more than likely has coal producing the power, natural gas if you’re lucky and nuclear if you’re really lucky. So the carbon footprint of “electric” a reworking of “battery operated” is not as low as marketing would lead one to believe.
@cotasa
4 жыл бұрын
The day we get better batteries technology (eg. Solid state battery), electric will shine
@daveross935
4 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@CGreciful
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Solid state is what I'm waiting for. In the meantime, I'm good with free flight.
@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587
4 жыл бұрын
watch cold fusion :)
@allwrightadventures6675
4 жыл бұрын
Yep we are not far off from solid state
@richardmillhousenixon
4 жыл бұрын
@Bike Life_93 dude, your attitude is one of the reasons why the environment is going to shit. 2 stroke engines are SOOOOO MUCH more polluting than a comparable 4 stroke engine. One metric that I've seen is that 30 minutes of yard work with a 2 stroke leaf blower produces the same co2 emissions as a 1200+ mile road trip in a 2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
@gilesk
2 жыл бұрын
You should revisit this mate
@jamesatkins7592
4 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed for solid state batteries with higher power density. Electric motors are more efficient but fuel does have an insurmountable power density for the foreseeable future. Electric motors are better based on their car equivalents. Reliability is something that would make it quite attractive for me for regular use. Could always try and carry an additional battery pack too.
@aknar0
4 жыл бұрын
Also important of great significance is that you can climb high and cut the electric motor then glide around to add to your fligjt time the start the motor again. So this way you can save power and add to your flight time.
@jthrasherphoto
2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your thoughts on electric again after 2 years. It seems there have been some advances. Check out Open PPG.
@marguskiis7711
Жыл бұрын
What advances? Things are getting even more reverse. I am an active motorized bicycle rider, doing food delivery work. 2020 there were a lot of e-bicycles around and they were very hip. And i saw ZERO gas motorized bicycles around. Now , 2022, e-bicycles are pretty rare but I have seen ( and I use myself) numerous the gas motorized bicycles. Why? The cheaper batteries are real crap. They don`t last but their price is ridiculous. The electric engines/gears are fragile and don`t last. Gas engine is noisy, not so flexible and look ancient but they work and they have a lot of power.
@chrismaines1285
2 жыл бұрын
Now it’s 2022. I’d love to see you try one of the new ducted electric jobs. Also batteries have gotten better and likely longer flight times.
@TimFuzail
Жыл бұрын
Which one are you talking about?
@seanyourhero1765
4 жыл бұрын
"Muted red" i love that
@MajesticSkywhale
4 жыл бұрын
The real game changer would be a hybrid, with a full electric motor AND small gas motor so you can fly electric any time it's convenient, use BOTH one after the other for longer distances, both at once for more power, and just gas when you somehow have gasoline but little power to charge
@niconico3907
4 жыл бұрын
Too heavy probably.
@KnowledgePerformance7
4 жыл бұрын
@@niconico3907 how you figure that? There are hybrid drones that weigh just a couple kilos. I bet it could be done
@nicholasthon973
4 жыл бұрын
The longest flying military vehicles use hybrid tech.
@guylerman2725
4 жыл бұрын
So, why wouldn't you have the gallons option which would allow you to fly 5 hours, just curious? And what does it really take to do so?
@ThomasGrillo
4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your thoughts, regarding E-wings. I think it's possible to extend flight time, by, as you suggested, using an efficient glider wing. An E-wing would be best suited for ridge, and thermal soaring pilots, as a means of: 1, launching, where winch, or platform launching is not available, and 2, as an emergency ascent system, for getting out of what would otherwise be a sticky wicket situation. You would only fire up the motor, when you need to gain some altitude, if you don't find as many thermals, and then once more, for setting up for landing, if you've gone a wee bit farther afield from your LZ, than you intended. Put it to the test, and let me know how it goes. Thanks for the video.
@jefferyhudson4681
Жыл бұрын
the new Sp140 EPPG is claiming 60 minute flight time. And with the motor switched completely off when gliding I don't see why this isn't possible. Don't get me wrong, I hate the thoughts of electric cars and motorcycles but I would definitely buy an electric PPG. I would love to see you fly and review the model above !! Thanks.
@domg7124
11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@GregAtlas
4 жыл бұрын
If you think about the gas the same way you think about electricity, electric is more efficient. The problem with electric is the storage medium, which will be changing very quickly in less than a decade as supercapacitors/ultracapacitors using the newer graphene discoveries becomes much more common and inexpensive. Not only will you be saving a significant amount of weight compared to both gas and traditional batteries, but they store much more energy than both liquid fuels (such as gas) and traditional batteries because of the nature of graphene creating a perfect mesh for the electrons to fit into. Plus the nature of supercapacitors to provide a lot of amperage should allow for electric motors to provide a significant boost to power where traditional batteries often struggle. Super capacitors also charge extremely quickly. They last much longer (age wise and charge cycle wise) compared to batteries so they require replacement less often AND they handle extreme high and low temperatures very well. Sorry my grammar and sentence structure is probably a mess here. I'm extremely tired at the moment.
@georgesmundin2141
4 жыл бұрын
Great video on electric , if you get one the guy at the park can"t complain about the noise.
@justin_time
4 жыл бұрын
An electric paramotor sounds like it could be perfect for the Jaclyson! No more pull starts!
@SappyJupiter37
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but not a lot of flight time
@KingJellyfishII
4 жыл бұрын
yeah, it seems good for smaller people which would also increase efficiency and therefore flight time (also isn't it jacklyn?)
@eyeneed6969
4 жыл бұрын
Is there a hybrid version yet? Then you can have the best of all worlds like Porsche did the the 918 Hybrid and the Panamera Hybrid ♡♡♡♡ Your videos are awesome and I hope one day these all come way down in pricing forcus poor folks lol
@margobollman
4 жыл бұрын
Tucker, I already know that YOU know about wing suits...all I'm saying is, please give it a go! For someone that will never do any of these things and living vicariously through you, please, consider it! Lots of appreciation, Margo
@wills.5762
4 жыл бұрын
Wing suits are pretty damn dangerous tho
@prignony
4 жыл бұрын
Another advantage that might surface (not necessarily for paramotor flight) is that an electric motor doesn't need air to work. You still need air to move thought but you don't need air to run it. So if you are high in the sky you don't need to adjust your carb.
@Tom_north_of_60
2 жыл бұрын
Oh well, first sentence: “I have never used one, but based on my research…” Based on my research pilots love flying electric due to - the torque - the engine being off when off and on instantly when pushing the “throttle” - no vibrations during the flight by the engine - quieter So all in all: really you should fly one to experience it. Because that’s the pros of an electric one. My two cents: Battery power, and with it flight time/range, are a downside for sure. But flying paramotor is an overall experience, which sum is more than time/range. And a final thought: with electric, there is no maintenance of the engine anymore. Super sexy in my eyes!
@petersmythe6462
3 жыл бұрын
One advantage electric ultralighta have is that batteries aren't regulated under FAR 103. Unfortunately weight is regulated both by FAR 103 and the laws of physics, and the power and energy density of batteries means that getting them to outperform some 30 lb gas engine and 5 gallons of gas is tricky.
@fredrutledge3628
4 жыл бұрын
Two motors to avoid torque steer, battery weight down low, and a second battery on the ground waiting to take over. I think this might be the way to go. The joy of not dealing with the gas engine would be so nice.
@AndyRial
4 жыл бұрын
All those pilots on the FB chats that are terrified of their e-start battery exploding in flight...😆 If Graphene battery tech takes off these will be a good option. No more gaskets, leaks, heat, cracking pipes, scrubbing carbon, non-starting motors! 🔋🪂
@evank8459
4 жыл бұрын
I was curious about the battery tech as well. Battery cycle life is the big thing he didn't talk about.. how many times do you get to charge it before the punch and range are 50%? 500-2000 cycles is about the expected for current LiPos or 18650s
@barking.dog.productions1777
4 жыл бұрын
Graphene batteries are out, but the technology needs to mature before we will see the full benefits and the price comes down. Currently they are using hybrid graphene and lithium which has awesome benefits but does not extend run time except for Samsung who has managed to extend run time by around 30% (claimed) for some high end phone batteries. The major benefits so far is that the heat is greatly reduced and they can charge in 1/3 the time, so if you have 2 batteries your 2nd battery will actually be fully charged within the flight time - meaning if you are willing to land every 30 minutes or so you can pop in a fresh battery and take back off immediately. They also have greatly extended lifetime, and charge cycles - probably due to the reduced heat. Give it 5 years and graphene batteries will revolutionize anything electric.
@freezatron
4 жыл бұрын
I think 2000 cycles for Lipo batteries is highly optimistic in a high discharge use, I've never gotten past 300 or so and have them remain useful. Graphene holds some promise though once it matures, 30% increase in runtime seems realistic given enough development time but batteries are going to need something truly revolutionary to bring the energy density up to equal current fuels, like a 500%+ increase ... For now I see electric paramotors being used for quick flights and by those who know how to use thermals, especially nice to launch from a flat field and climb to a 1000 feet, carry on climbing up in a thermal and then use what's left for low saves for another bite at the cherry etc. I can see these being popular among cross country pilots who want a backup plan over tricky terrain. I can imagine a multi prop version that can fold and unfold in flight being especially appealing as it would reduce drag when not powered up ;)
@AndyRial
4 жыл бұрын
barking.dog.productions1776 agreed. And think of Graphene can be charged so rapidly and safely (to be determined) we could essentially recharge in flight with an alternator. Endless range...
@AndyRial
4 жыл бұрын
freezatron that sounds super cool. A backup for PG pilots or just to get them to altitude. 🪂
@richardwallinger1683
3 жыл бұрын
you will definitely get an electric set up to test . I was 1980 Donnington GT championship outright class winner and I have a Nissan LEAF 2001 which Is my go to cafe / shopping trolley . A bit of battery degradation 110 km remaining on ECO mode . Same top end power but a softer throttle response .and greater Battery regen . I bet the Battery Para-glider prop would also do some battery regen . added possibility of an electric heated hook up for cosy warm hands and feet. love your videos . fly safe . low level swooping looks awesome BUT.. Let,s hope there are no nasty unexpected BUT,s. Thinking about the torque a contra rotating twin engine set up would allow the torque to be electronically tuned to assist in turns / turbulence . As you are aware the electronics to assist with stability weigh a few grams and can be fine tuned to avoid line twists etc .
@mikescarborough9196
2 жыл бұрын
Solid state battery technology will change minds not just about electric cars, but aviation, boating and anything you can think of.
@marguskiis7711
Жыл бұрын
dream on
@SmittySmithsonite
4 жыл бұрын
I agree - battery technology isn't quite there yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's going to take a major battery breakthrough before I'd ever consider buying a battery powered anything.
@Burlehmangus
3 жыл бұрын
The advantage to an electric motor however is the ability to be able to just not use it when you want to glide. Once you turn off the internal combustion.....that's it until you land. With the electric, u can power to a thermal and thermal up. The other advantage is you can just get the 3k electric, and if you want more flight time just upgrade the battery later on!
@airtylerb
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the electric motors are best for pilots that like to get up to altitude, shut it off, and soar as long as possible.
@mcbrite
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's it's main use case over here close to the Alps/EU... "Thermal Assist" so you can start in Flatland and also have a second chance if you fuck up the first chance... :-D But over here it's like 98%+ unpowered/thermal flying...
@tomgillotti
4 жыл бұрын
Electric aviation is in a very cool proof of concept phase and as the tech grows and advances are made in production there will be benefits across many different industries.
@JRSkola
Жыл бұрын
Echoing other comments in hopes of nudging you over the edge: How about an update on Electric Paramotors?
@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587
4 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for hydrogen fuel cell powered paramotors so I can burst into flames mid-air.
@patrickhorvath2684
4 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for a cold fusion reactor coupled to a magneto hydrodynamic ferrous fluid drive
@franklinrussell4750
4 жыл бұрын
If you store the hydrogen in a metal hydride you will be safer than with gasoline. The year is 2020 it is not 1937. Do you listen to a big old radio in your living room?
@patrickhorvath2684
4 жыл бұрын
@@franklinrussell4750 No, we leave the record player on...lol
@franklinrussell4750
4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickhorvath2684 You might like to learn about fuel cells and hydrogen storage. There have been changes from 1937.lol
One advantage you did not discuss is that when off the throttle, the motor goes completely off (silent). If the weight is closer to the pilot's body, this could possibly be used to gain altitude to engage thermals while in free flight. This can extend the flying time. However, it would depend on unstable air for thermals which with most para-motors we try to avoid.
@Krozmar
4 жыл бұрын
Would be awsome if your parashoot had solarpanals innbuild.. I bet you can do that in about 10-20 years.. Silk fabrick absorbing the sun producing electiricity for the battery..
@DAS-Videos
4 жыл бұрын
The nice thing about an electric one is there is no pull or electric starter. Press the button and it spins. But until the next big breakthrough in battery technology, the limited flight time makes them impractical.
@fistingthesystem5475
4 жыл бұрын
"re-fueling" or charging options are not enough. but if you carry a big ass battery you could run the motors for a long time. or set up for high performance for a short time. i know ebikes. and two strokes. not paramotors. but i could build a motor/batt that would launch you strait up! maybe straight down again too but that's a problem for later.
@richardporter4873
4 жыл бұрын
I think this change will come much sooner than you think. With the carbon free drive being pushed foward by legislation on the auto industry - battery tech (which is the principal limiting factor) is one of the most rapidly advancing technological fields today. I will be really surprised not to see viable electric paramotors within the next 5 years. Swop out batteries will be the norm for quick changover (like the Inboard M1 powershift system)(*very sad they went into liquidation through supply issues*) . Also there is no major reason you shouldn't be able to link auxilliary batteries that arent frame mounted - these could also be used to link direct to heated vests and gloves etc. Really nicely balanced, concise examination of the state of play today :)
@thephantom1492
4 жыл бұрын
There is also one big issue with electric ones: recharge time. Gas, you land, fill up and you go! Electric, you would need a second battery ($$$) or a few hours of charge time... As he alresdy did, he even landed near a gas station to refill... You can not do that with an electric one...
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