While I think this movie mellowed down as time goes on, I still will never forget the theater reactions to the climax. It was an unforgettable experience
@Zoki4444
Жыл бұрын
The scene where everyone was portaled to the battlefield, it almost made me cry. Here they were, Cap, Tony and Thor, defeated and alone, with Cap willing to go on despite facing an unbeatable army, then all of a sudden their hard work saves them with all their friends coming back.
@jeromealday614
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, My fellow watchers were just bandwagoners. Its full of old people just seeing what's up with the hype.
@TheBeserkerLord
Жыл бұрын
A good friend of mine happened to be visiting at the time Endgame came out and we were both huge MCU fans so we saw it in theaters together. The reaction to the climax was insane and still the most incredible theater experience I've ever had. I still remember that every time I see it.
@jacksonhazeltine9291
Жыл бұрын
While I also remember everyone cheering for Steve Rogers wielding Mjolnir, and for the return of lost heroes, I remember the silence that filled the theater when the screen slowly said, "5... YEARS... LATER". Right from the get-go, it really sets in that the universe truly lost to Thanos, and we wonder what the Avengers will do to fix things.
@xanmontes8715
Жыл бұрын
I wish that was my story too. Oh yeah, people cheered like mad but the end of the movie garnered some... Tepid audience reactions. Hell, a funeral had more energy than my viewing when Captain Marvel showed up. I kid you not, the lady behind me told her partner "oh they won then, the star lady came" and I wanted to weep. Weep... For the 15 dollars I spent on my ticket and the 20 additional dollars I spent on snacks. My wallet still hasn't forgiven me. I doubt it ever will. And I don't think I deserve that forgiveness.
@O1993-f8u
Жыл бұрын
My main problem with Hulk is that his arch is resolved off screen. Seeing the Hulk get traumatized after one fight, was interesting. Endgame ruined that potential.
@willt3223
Жыл бұрын
if you watched the old infinity war trailer. Hulk not bruce in armor, was there st the final battle. I was waiting for hulk to hulk out to fight thanos. I didn’t realized hulk would die in that movie.
@shawndashno6022
Жыл бұрын
Actually it was supposed to be in Infinity war. They even filmed the scene. You can find it on KZitem somewhere. Why they chose to remove it is mind boggling. It's definitely worth hunting it down. Just keep in mind they never finished all the visual effects on it.
@sadge4022
Жыл бұрын
@@shawndashno6022that deleted scene still sucks. it's pathetic and underwhelming, that entire 15 year conflict for the character is resolved in just one scene, and taken mostly as a long 'epic' joke (considering hulk and banner's speech and ruffalo's acting), plus it doesn't fit what's happening in the battle. hulk, and i mean, the REAL hulk, should have appeared there. bruce apologizes for treating him like shit for so many years while he's being overwhelmed by cull obsidian, and hulk busts out of the hulkbuster. but in a dramatic, epic feel. not a comedic nor pathetic one.
@JustDoingReviews
Жыл бұрын
It was gonna be on screen they cut it in Infinity Wars. Maybe they didn’t want to cram it all in a 30 second to 1 minute long scene
@summertyme5748
8 ай бұрын
_My main problem with Hulk is that his arch is resolved off screen_ Then you don't understand his character arc. You don't even understand the difference between arc and arch. sigh. This site is really quite dumb. lol.
@mariosonic4ever
Жыл бұрын
I remember walking out of Infinity War being genuinely surprised by how well-made that movie was, despite it having so many characters to juggle around. I expected to feel the same way after Endgame, given its great reception, but a lot of things felt off about it compared to Infinity War. As I walked out of Endgame, I expected the movie to be a lot more divisive once the hype died down, but I was surprised that wasn't the case, especially now after Phase 4 when everyone seems to see this movie as the pinnacle of the MCU.
@diollinebranderson6553
9 ай бұрын
Yea the biggest mistake was killing the og thanks early on. The new thanks has less of an impact because we never see his journey
@SOPHIA-LOVES-MEATBALLS-69
6 ай бұрын
@@diollinebranderson6553*thanks
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
Nope wrong. The things you call mistakes are the things that make the film great. The things you want to see - are the common clichés' of sequels, and which the film actually goes to great pains to deny you. The thinks you want to see are exactly what no talent hack writers would do, since they are copying a formula and don't' have to create. Specifically - We don't need to see Thanos journey - AGAIN, because his story is already complete. That's why he is killed at the start of the film: *To stop you from expecting to see more Avengers vs. Thanos.* His story is over - he won, he removed the stones from the board and now he can rest. Endgame is a completely different film - it's about the Avengers not Thanos. One of the original criticisms of Infinity War which - revisionist history aside was *not* received as well as Endgame by film critics, is that it was so determined to build Thanos into a character that it forgot to do anything with the Avengers other than Thor. They fight and lose - that's it. This criticism of Infinity War would be valid except that Endgame *moots* it, because the film brilliantly used the devastation of the previous film to tell the story of the Avengers and what they do in the aftermath. It's absolutely brilliant, and just goes over the head of someone who can't even figure out why Thanos was killed. It's literally Shakespearean tragedy being processed in some cases by folks who've only ever read Mother Goose, up until this point.
@KomeFits
3 ай бұрын
No we all lied to ourselves. There was no way endgame could follow up properly and we all knew EXACTLY what would happen to solve the problem.
@MegumiMary
Жыл бұрын
On a technical level Time Travel will always be something to nitpick While It is utilized in my book series I adhere to a very strict "closed loop" rule where we have glimpses of characters from the future being in the past that we will eventually see from the other point of view I know that I'll probably overlook something crucial that could be nitpicked to death so whenever time travel is involved the best strategy is to look past the nitpicks and go with the flow Could it ruin an entire story: Yes Did it do so in this case: No Could have been better but could have been worse Also worth noting that Agents of SHIELD capitalized on a key continuity error with their final episode explaining finer points people complained about while providing a solid conclusion to their series I see other marvel stuff capitalizing on other continuity errors as plot points but I think Strange MOM (despite how awful I found the movie itself) did the best with it so far by presenting the question "Was there another way?" He probably looked at the future with the smallest amount of casualties in the Thanos Conflict and didn't consider the blipped as casualties since they came back. The main arc he had in Spiderman NWH and Strange MOM was his purely analytical perspective and how it impacted others on an emotional level. He probably chose the outcome with the least casualties but the most post Thanos strife and he will never really know because he only looked at the analytical side with the stone and now he can't even see what could have been as the stone is gone.
@OpticalSorcerer
Жыл бұрын
Time travel is always a difficult thing to get right. As a tribute to the MCU, I enjoyed it.
@anubusx
Жыл бұрын
This movie is really similar to part 2.
@Garagelab164
Жыл бұрын
Aldone: I hated the MCU time travel Me: I see this as a absolute win
@vetarlittorf1807
Жыл бұрын
Actually, Endgame's time travel is the most accurate theory.
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
Yea I enjoy Endgame. Flaws: Yes but doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it. A lot of movies have flaws or loopholes or things that doesn’t make sense. None of them are perfect.
@WL1264
Жыл бұрын
@benpodvia5744back to the future doesn't make sense either. It's actually worse than endgame.
@gingergoddess8953
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the Marty McFly solution. And Captain America ditching Sam and Bucky to go get some 40's tail was incredibly stupid and irresponsible of him. He'd already done the full-circle coming to terms with Peggy aging and dying, so that completely cheapened that whole thing. Plus, so much for the happy life she DID end up having. For all we knew they slammed-bammed-thankyou ma'amed and realized there was way too much self-righteousness in that relationship for it to last... ...we all know Steve and Bucky was supposed to the be the real endgame. XD
@anubusx
Жыл бұрын
Steve should know that they even Thanos is gone they are still other threats in the universe.
@DougieYT
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I’ve been saying this, it completely discredits and shits all over the arc of Steve finally letting go of the past and moving on with building his own future, it’s also fucked up how they completely ignore Peggy’s Husband and their children in the regular timeline, it seems OOC for Steve and a complete assholish thing for the writers to do.
@kafukwamekemeh
10 ай бұрын
@@DougieYT Cap literally has been selfless and willing to do the right thing, him knowing the war is over and going back to get the chance to be with the woman he loves is not out of character
@DougieYT
10 ай бұрын
@@kafukwamekemeh Yeah that’s cool and all, but again, it doesn’t take away from the fact that Peggy Carter had a husband and her own children with another man, Steve going back in time instead of staying in his own time and building a new future is just lazy writing on the writers end.
@kafukwamekemeh
7 ай бұрын
He literally time travelled to the moment he sacrificed himself before Peggy got married, U are just saying nonsense, because u hate that cap deserved at least a chance to be with her especially after making all the sacrifices He did not also need to die for the story to be good @apexsmokepacker
@ShadowSaberBaroxio
Жыл бұрын
I thought this as soon as I exited the theater. I flarking hate time travel, and I could not stop asking the question of why, if they can bring back Gamora, can't they just bring back literally everyone else, like 5 seconds before they're supposed to die, so they're still effectively the same people? Breaks the story.
@KirbyStarAnimation
Жыл бұрын
Because that means they could bring people back every time they die and it would make the movies feel like they have no stakes.
@ShadowSaberBaroxio
Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyStarAnimation Except that's just the fucking problem. That's WHY you don't bring people back from the dead using time travel. But the cat's already out of the bag. Now they all just look like idiots for not taking this to its logical conclusion.
@KirbyStarAnimation
Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowSaberBaroxio They didn’t bring Gamora out of the past intentionally and they were just trying to collect the stones
@ShadowSaberBaroxio
Жыл бұрын
@@KirbyStarAnimation You know who DID bring Gamora out of the past intentionally? The writers. They WROTE time travel into the plot, and they made this a possibility. Now, the fact that this isn't being abused more makes everyone in the MCU seem retarded.
@summertyme5748
8 ай бұрын
They hate time travel because you have to think. And they don't play that. lol
@Tailscutie123
Жыл бұрын
I hated what they did to Steve at the end because it was so selfish of him to go back in time to live his life with Peggy. She had already moved on and married someone else and had children and possibly grandchildren. Theyre now gone because Steve couldn't move on, there was nothing satisfying about that and wasnt closure.
@JStryker47
Жыл бұрын
There was an episode of The Orville, where Gordon ends up doing that with a woman from the past, whom he'd previously developed feelings for in a simulation. In the end, when the crew is able to go further back in time and bring Gordon back before he can do that, he's disgusted at how selfish he let himself become.
@gh0st-.-dxff531
Жыл бұрын
bro what the one time steve wasn’t selfish i don’t think you understood what steve arc was
@kafukwamekemeh
10 ай бұрын
Didn't he literally time travel back to the 1940s era before Peggy had a family
@TahuMata1888
9 ай бұрын
Speaking of Rogers living a normal life in the 40s with Peggy, I remember Scott Lang said “back to the future is a bunch of BS” and the ancient one said causing different outcomes inside the past can branch more timelines like too many tree branches. My answer to that is after Steve returned the stones to their original locations from where they were taken he reunites with Peggy which actually does not branch another timeline, instead he rewrote the same timeline which explains why we see him sitting on a bench as an old man 😟🤔
@RacCkhn
4 ай бұрын
They ran out of ideas after Infinity War. They couldn't come up with anything better than Send Steve Back To Peggy who is already married with children. They ignored their own continuity for the sake of a cheap pop from the audience. Marvel lost it's soul and heart trying to sell fans a poorly planned very rushed movie that would make so much money solely because of all the movies that came before it, not because Endgame is a good stand alone movie. Endgame is a disappointment from a narrative standpoint. It should have been this post apocalyptic nightmare type of movie where the heroes have to try any and everything to beat a Thanos that still has the Infinity stones. Loki had two Infinity stones. And 6 avengers were able to stop him. Those same six avengers were the core members of Endgame and they were written to have a very weird victory over a already weakened Thanos and then fight a crappier version of him at the end in a convoluted mess of a climax. If Nebula never went to that planet or timeline, Thanos would never figure out what happened and follow her to the future. The MCU sabotaged themselves. The Infinity stones should make someone like Thanos more powerful than he already is, not weaken him. That defeats the purpose of the audience caring about Him waiting over 20 movies to finally collect all of them. The MCU now is just to bloated and too disjointed to care about. Deadpool 3 is supposed to be this movie that we should care about and then immediately go watch Secret Wars the following year. But who cares? The executive producers and directors and writers and concept guys sure don't care. So why should we? Why pay to watch 14 versions of Spiderman and Hulk and Captain America fight a bunch of different versions of some villain that has already lost 3 times. Superhero movies need to re-invent the wheel. They have poisoned their formula. MCU is dead
@biggsducklighter6171
Жыл бұрын
I felt like a crazy person when I walked out of Endgame incredibly disappointed and everyone else was buzzing with excitement. Glad to see time is letting people reevaluate it. Honestly, if I were to rewatch the first 3 MCU phases I'd probably stop at Infinity War, that was much more satisfying.
@willt3223
Жыл бұрын
same. Only for me, they made thanos so bad ass and up to that point endgame was fine. It when CAPTAIN Marvel made thanos her bitch that i had a problem. It completely made thanos a non threat .
@biggsducklighter6171
Жыл бұрын
@@willt3223 Eh, I started having problems with the movie after the first scene, so by the final battle I was pretty much just resigned to watching the pretty colors and turning my brain off. It does make sense in terms of power scaling that Carol could take Thanos without his stones though, and he used one to take her out, so that didn't really bother me.
@stephenblack5425
Жыл бұрын
@@willt3223 yeah, after the portals scene, Thanos and his army got turned into stuffed toys who were just there to be thrown everywhere by the avengers and it just became too obvious that the avengers are gonna win.
@KirbyStarAnimation
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenblack5425 Well in most superhero movies it’s obvious. It was obvious that in infinity the avengers were going to lose as well especially since endgame had already been confirmed
@hisham031170
Жыл бұрын
I feel you bro, I feel you.
@troygoom2251
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I disagree with is going back and making Morgan all over again. I think I understand his decisions as a parent. Just saying you can just make her again sounds wrong in all aspects in terms of a child. But everything else I agree with. Parents are selfish and want there children to live as they are, they wouldn’t undo a child and just make them again especially when there wouldn’t be a guarantee that Morgan would end up the same or be the same after the past is changed. Your undoing that specific Morgan, that specific happiness in his life that was born out of the tragedy. I think Tony’s arc was perfect to me. But that’s just my opinion. Now as cold blooded and logician decision, sure. The simple answer is going all the way back and restarting, but man I wouldn’t be able to. I hate how they wasted thors past developments tho, that’s the worst thing they did in this movie. The worst thing isn’t hulk because he’s just been terrible since before infinity war. Tragic.
@CodeTetsu
Жыл бұрын
Yeah everything other than stuff regarding Tony was rather agreeable to me. You don’t just make your children all over again. The different time of trying to have kids and how your body may change could make an entirely different combination for the outcome. For a character who saw a kid become dust before his very eyes I don’t see how on earth the dude would be pure logic and no feeling.
@Jdudec367
Жыл бұрын
They didn't waste Thor's past developments though he was just still developing in Endgame. That isn't the worse they did in this movie at all. Nah Hulk wasn't terrible yet.
@KirbyStarAnimation
Жыл бұрын
@@Jdudec367Hulk was done dirty by infinity war more than endgame in my opinion because at least he was the green machine for most of the movie
@Chriscras2
Жыл бұрын
Two words: TIME TRAVEL
@scottdanah.4405
Жыл бұрын
And Retconning
@IAmTheEagleHTM
Жыл бұрын
Recipe for disaster
@SpookyDooky.
Жыл бұрын
@@scottdanah.4405it not retconning if they went and created separate timeliness, it's only retconning if they went back in time and turns out something they did was something that happened in the past that we knew but didn't know it was because of time travel
@Mr_Robotts
Жыл бұрын
@@SpookyDooky.They didn't create other timelines, they created a paradox
@anubusx
Жыл бұрын
A rat saves the universe.
@michaelsnow3536
Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with 'the blip' is as you say, they focused ENTIRELY on the personal effects of it, and not at all on the societal, economic, or environmental. They just jumped 5 years into what is effectively the post apocalypse and everything is just as normal, just a few empty houses.
@NocturnalMelody
Жыл бұрын
I could never understand why people loved Endgame so much. It felt so contrived, especially the part where ALL the heroines conveniently lined up in the middle of a chaotic battle to show their “girl power”. Let’s not even start on Thor’s character and his trauma becoming a joke. This was the start - Love and Thunder just was the finishing blow.
@Vkiller711
10 ай бұрын
The girl power scene is just fan fare in a movie filled with it. Mfs just being hating everything
@summertyme5748
8 ай бұрын
When the only basis of your criticism is that the heroes are girls, then the comment is dismissed and not worthy even of addressing.l
@gotyournose6479
7 ай бұрын
@@summertyme5748That wasn’t the criticism at all. He’s criticizing the heroines all conveniently lining up in the huge chaotic battle, viewing it to be too contrived. They did this all for a girl power moment but didn’t bother to make it an actual scene with substance unlike the moment in infinity war which is what he’s saying. Don’t strawman on my block again.
@stephenramos2824
6 ай бұрын
@@gotyournose6479 the scene with widow in infinity war was a genuinely badass moment
@gotyournose6479
6 ай бұрын
@@stephenramos2824 yes
@CleaveTheDragon
Жыл бұрын
Part of tony's conflict at this point is that he had spent the past 5 years accepting the defeat and moving on with the life he does have. It sounds selfish to not be on board at first because we, as an audience, know that they're meant to fix this problem but for him he has these former colleagues trying to pull him back in for one more job, one involving something as fantastical as time travel, and therefore could do even more damage on top of what Thanos did (or even worse) if it goes wrong. At this point he's made a promise to Pepper to live a normal life and be here for his daughter, something that, at this point, I think anyone would feel they've earned after going on so many other world-saving adventures. Otherwise it would literally never end until you died... which is what happens to tony. He only goes back on it after considering someone he did personally know, Peter Parker, being lost to this thing, and after feeling he's solved time travel to make it work. You can definitely argue if that makes him selfish, but I don't see that as a big of a conflict with him as a character. Compared to the rest of the weird problems this movie had, it feels nitpicky to me.
@daphne8406
Жыл бұрын
Time travel usually is very annoying and paradoxal in most movies 🤷♀️ Definately not my favourite way to solve stories.
@PathBeyondTheDark
Жыл бұрын
Time travel was never necessary. The writers had not written themselves into a corner. The stones still existed, Thanos still existed. The film could have easily been about finding Thanos and retrieving the stones. That was the first red flag since now, in retrospect, we understand exactly why they went that route. They literally used the end of an era as promotion for the next, drove the story into unnecessary territory just to sell the next phase. How you can view this film now and not understand exactly what it is - a backdoor pilot - and still see it the same is beyond me. And this is JUST retrospect, that it got far worse, because at the time not only did the decision to introduce time travel bewilder me but I also felt the film just was not any good. It felt like they were forcing in time travel for an unknown reason. It did not at all feel organic when it comes to sequential story telling. Yet it was not the only issue I and everyone I saw it with had. It just felt lifeless aside from Tony's journey. It felt pointless. As you say, they had all the time in the world to fix things. The sense of urgency is fabricated, and this especially becomes apparent when they realize they can just endlessly return to the 50's and collect particles that way. All the tension, emotion, is sucked out the window if there even was any to begin with. It's an ugly film. There is no creativity in the framing of characters or setpieces aside from the opening scene and there is little in the way of dynamic camera work. It's quite literally put camera on stand, turn on, shoot. It's a film filled with talking heads. The characters rarely are doing anything interesting or exciting to distract you from just how lacking in visual creativity it is. It's a big budget stage play without the over the top eccentric characters or music to back it up. And no, the final scene does not make up for what a drag the first almost two and a half hours is. It's a slog, a pointless slog. The film could have easily been trimmed by forty-five minutes... oh excuse me, wait, we needed the 5 second shot of Loki escaping for future projects, I forgot. It's cynical. It's just a cynical film now, a bad one then still. I could go on about every issue I have with it but I think I've drilled in the point. It's not a good movie it's barely a movie at all. It's a series of sequential events that never feels like a whole.
@IkeMastree
Жыл бұрын
The first avengers will always be the best one.
@scottdanah.4405
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have watched that one like 30 times, and EndGame once which is enough for me
@tieler151
Жыл бұрын
@@scottdanah.4405i like this 1st and infinity war
@scottdanah.4405
Жыл бұрын
@@tieler151yeah it’s not that bad, but not my favorite either( infinity war) but if you like it more power to you
@RedCommunistDragon
Жыл бұрын
The first, third (Civil War),, and fourth (Infinity War) are my favorites.
@KirbyStarAnimation
Жыл бұрын
@@RedCommunistDragon Civil war isn’t an avengers movie. It would’ve been if Thor and hulk were their but since it wasn’t and it still mostly focused on cap, Bucky, and Tony.
@C4MG1RL
Жыл бұрын
I can understand why some people don't like Tony's reluctance but, as a parent, I can understand it. You're not just risking you own kid but every kid since. Time travelling forward is one thing but you're asking to go backwards which risks everything for a chance to fix things. Losing half of all life shattered things but suddenly returning everyone would arguably do more damage. That is a lot to risk on a chance you don't even know for sure will work. Same with Miles in Spiderverse and his dad. I can understand wanting to save him but you're risking the entire universe on it, dunno if I'd want to take that chance. "But you're denying those people a chance to see their loved ones again" and not risking reality/time itself on that gamble of a process.
@Zoki4444
Жыл бұрын
I had SO MANY problems with the final battle, where they could have done any number of things to win since they had the infinity stones and like you said all the time in the world to send the stones back in time: Why didn't Captain Marvel just fly away and have the army chase her then she flies back and no more army to cockblock them from the time travel van? Why didn't they give Strange his time stone back so he could pause time and do whatever? Why didn't they send Thanos in the vacuum of space with the space stone? Why didn't they obliterate Thanos and his army with the power stone like that celestial was show doing in the first Guardians? Why didn't they just keep playing Hot Potato with the gauntlet until someone transported the van to a safer place away from the battlefield then bring the gauntlet there? Why couldn't the Guardians of the Galaxy do to Thanos and his army what they did to Ronan with the power stone? Why didn't Doctor Strange or any other sorcerer portal enemies away or somewhere where they would surely suffer?
@JStryker47
Жыл бұрын
In the comics, when Nebula gets the gauntlet, she sets things back the way they were before Thanos snapped. So everyone Thanos killed was alive again, everyone who disappeared was back where they belonged, and it was like nothing ever happened. So instead of just bringing all those people back, why didn't Hulk do what Nebula did in the comics?
@Zoki4444
Жыл бұрын
@@JStryker47 oh, oh, because the infinity stones in the MCU were SOOOOOO dangerous with their energy, not just anyone could use them. Ugh, I hated that change for the movies because it greatly limited how many characters could actually use the stones.
@trevormandouma
Жыл бұрын
You sound like one of the people complaining about the choreography in the throne room fight in the last Jedi, just nitpicking
@Sara-bk3yi
Жыл бұрын
because the movie would have been dull as hell
@Jdudec367
Жыл бұрын
They couldn't have done any number of things to win as they kept on losing the gauntlet and there was not enough time to use the stones or at least much and they didn't have all the time in the world to send the stones back in time . Thanos is smart and wouldn't let them all follow her, that wouldn't work. Easier said then done in all of the chaos of the battle. Thanos and his side are pretty powerful and fast, easier said then done to do that to him. There wasn't enough time to do that and it was too chaotic to do safely. Again easier said then done Again not enough time and too chaotic to be done safely. Again not enough time and too chaotic to be done safely.
@michaeljordan5630
Жыл бұрын
The insincerity and cartoonish behavior about how the world of the MCU felt after the blip is unnerving. I understand that not everyone is traumatized from the event, but set up to change the MCU only to not. Having everyone act like the Decimation and blip was just Sunday. Spider-Man Far from Home show how insincerity doesn’t work in their favorite. I understand that insincerity can be funny when it comes to reacting to event people would be more affected by, but it doesn’t help. And shows they had no plan after endgame.
@trevormandouma
Жыл бұрын
Far from home takes place 8 months after endgame
@Film0Graphic
Жыл бұрын
When it comes to time travel, I've always loved the breakdown in Back to the Future 2. Where Doc Brown describes it as changing something significantly wouod create a branching timeline and the beat way to stop that change from happening is to go back to before/when that change happened to stop it The whole multiverse thing that Marvel creates feels like an overly convoluted version of that
@skywardthehero308
Жыл бұрын
Lets not tell this guy in the original story in the comics, Thanos IS just another petty villain. He did the whole population half snapped all for a woman he can never get
@isaigutierrez1617
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Tetta Kisaki from Tokyo Revengers. Except of snapping his fingers, Kisaki would do fucked up shit in the past and manipulate events so that other toman gang members can die unspeakable deaths
@Wyck1349
Жыл бұрын
That’s not the problem, the problem is that they transformed Thanos into a multi dimensional antagonist, one with a thought out motive and one who genuinely believed in what he was doing. Only for them to transform him again into that petty villain who just got so butt-hurt that he tried to destroy earth.
@skywardthehero308
Жыл бұрын
@Ketser1505 Which I find it funny. They change his character only to change his character again lol They weren't even confident enough in their own materials. They needed to make him that petty villain for the sake of the climax battle in the end.
@nicodiangelo7051
Жыл бұрын
They gave his character even better layers in IW only to strip them away in endgame for idk what reason
@Wyck1349
Жыл бұрын
@@skywardthehero308 fr
@RogerS1978
Жыл бұрын
It's worse, it's actually evil bringing them back 5 years later rather than at the time as you'd stop planes crashing because the pilot snapped etc, young kids starving or being killed and eaten by family pets because their parents had both been taken. How many were snapped from cars and now appear on motorways and highways, even if they didn't reappear still doing 90mph without a car traffic would still cause a mess. The murders because the partner had moved on and remarried, people stealing their property/homes etc. the people reappearing would have nothing left so the suicide and crime rates would be through the roof.
@summertyme5748
8 ай бұрын
_hem back 5 years later rather than at the time_ Nope. You are failing at understanding time and consequences. If you go back in time 5 years you have literally murdered trillions of beings born in the last 5 years. Actually what you want to do - is WHAT THANOS in Endgame wants to do - which is reset the Universe, thereby inadvertently wiping from existence those who are currently alive. lol. This site is a really a competition to see who can make the most clueless remarks...and there are so many winners. lol
@kakyoinmilfhunter1896
2 ай бұрын
@@summertyme5748you really vomited that out and just made up a whole ass retelling of what this guy said.
@soumararidi3723
Жыл бұрын
They barely covered the effects of the blip. The only thing they showed was iron man and nebula. The time jump is a huge missed opportunity, where they couldve dived into darker themes.
@aliastheabnormal
Жыл бұрын
In the comics Thanos was never smart enough to destroy the stones. There was no timeskip in the original story.
@anubusx
Жыл бұрын
The timeskip annoyed me.
@aliastheabnormal
Жыл бұрын
@@anubusx You need to think of it as its own thing. I mean Tony Stark in the comics would never willingly sacrifice himself for the greater good. Just look at AXIS for proof of that. He loved being evil so much that he invented a device that could protect people from morality shifts. And he did it because he loved being evil. Now he's even made super sentinels that will destroy the world. Having learned jack shit after Red Skull stole his previous batch of Super Sentinels to destroy the world. Which itself is a recurring problem that goes all the way back to Civil war. As he had learned nothing from when the Skrulls and then Osborn stole his stuff in order to destroy the world.
@jvmeel7454
Жыл бұрын
I really need y'all to understand that this isn't the comics...
@lunaredelvour2972
Жыл бұрын
I got into the MCU very late. Like. Watched the first Iron Man movie less than 6 months ago because my fiance got me into the franchise levels of late. So naturally I caught Endgame much, much later, long after the hype had died down (I saw it about a month ago for reference). I wish I never saw Endgame. I had to shut my brain off to get through most of the movie just to stay sane and get at least a little joy out of it. I didn't like that the movie only happened because some random rat skittered across a dashboard and conveniently hit the right button for Ant Man to come back, I hated how they massacred Thor, I couldn't stand the use of time travel (I very rarely do), I was incredibly frustrated with everything Captain Marvel, and holy mother of all that is good and holy I LOST it when I saw the ending they gave Captain America. He was my favorite character from the start of his first movie, I went feral with what they did with him during this movie (namely that he was the last one standing against Thanos and was willing to lay down his life AND THEN THE FACT HE COULD LIFT THORS HAMMER I-) and it was my favorite part of the movie until the last 10 min or so (I'm still seething about it). Endgame never should have been made imo. Infinity War is the canonical ending of the MCU story in my head because of how bad Endgame was imo, and the movies after haven't been all that great either
@juliancaraveo5700
Жыл бұрын
Something I am still wondering is : How did Thanos manage to get his ship to time travel to the correct time ? How did he know how to use the Pym Particles ?
@nicholasemjohnson47
Жыл бұрын
Past Nebula sent him the coordinates.
@Crimzon_Nova
11 ай бұрын
Thanos is a genius. and because it was time travel, he had all the time he needed to reverse engineer the Pym Particles and know how they work.
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
Exactly. Also the logic of the film somehow isn't being followed, due to non linearity of any story that plays with time. (not just time travel sci fi, but the works of Nolan, of Orson Welles, etc) Thanos in his 2014 timeline has *unlimited amounts of TIME* to develop his plan of attack in his own timeline. He will still come thru the portal exactly when Nebula pulls him thru. _In a minute_ - Per Nat. But in his Universe it literally could be 100 years gone bye. Each timeline is its own space/time, in the multiverse. Try explaining that, or any other scientifically literate concept on 'this' forum though. lol. Clearly Doc Brown drives DeLorean 88mph is their level, so...what can you say?
@UPFSonic
Ай бұрын
@@summertyme5748The Avengers had a button to bring them back. A button. The other side also had a button, and both buttons needed to be pushed at some point. Thanos and Ebony Maw built a button for them to travel to the Sacred Timeline's 2023.
@lucasnorthrup7175
Жыл бұрын
I am gonna be honest, while I still like this movie, I don’t consider it great or even the best film in the MCU, and it wasn’t even the my favorite movie of 2019. My biggest problems were what they did with Thanos, and even Black Widow’s death wasn’t that emotional, even though I was still disappointed. Again, I like this movie, but it’s not my favorite movie in the MCU.
@samuelmackenzie5267
Жыл бұрын
When it comes to time travel and conclusion to a saga, I much prefer X-men: Days of future past to endgame. The stakes are higher, the looming threat of the sentinels is always present which gives the movie a more suspenseful feel and the time travel feels like it has more wait as we’re actually changing the past. Also the film sends off singers x-men in a really satisfying way where you don’t have to watch any of the other movies. Endgame didn’t have tension in the time travel section of the film, it felt like the mcus greatest hits, some of the characters were goofy; especially professor hulk, and I felt the final battle looked terribly lit in a boring rock landscape, where’s the civilian presence? It’s like the battle felt like an exclusive club for significant people. It just didn’t do it for me. But the movie is still a solid send off for the avengers. I just feel x-men did it better 5 years prior.
@gh0st-.-dxff531
Жыл бұрын
the stakes ain’t higher 💀
@kafukwamekemeh
10 ай бұрын
How can there be civilians when thanos was basically attacking the avengers headquarters?
@xavierramirez1911
10 ай бұрын
endgame almost feels like the writers kind of wrote themselves into a corner after infinity war. they kill thanos off in the beginning, destroy the stones, and then they were like " so now what?" the only logical way they could think of undoing the snap was time travel. and then halfway through the movie they realized they had no villain, so that's where 2014 thanos was written in. endgame was good, but if they planned it better, it could've surpassed infinity war.
@Vertex_vortex
10 ай бұрын
Yea
@kafukwamekemeh
10 ай бұрын
they literally filmed infinity war and endgame back to back
@xavierramirez1911
10 ай бұрын
@@kafukwamekemeh that still wouldn’t stop them from writing themselves into a corner. remember these stories are written and made to release on a certain date. so if they had more time to write endgame, they probably would’ve came up with something else
@kafukwamekemeh
10 ай бұрын
@@xavierramirez1911 Yeah and why are you angry Thanos was the villain when he is literally a insane genocidal maniac
@xavierramirez1911
10 ай бұрын
@@kafukwamekemeh where in my original comment did i say i was angry thanos was the villain?😂
@hisham031170
Жыл бұрын
End Game’s fans are so toxic. They made their own theories to cover the plot holes and blame people questioning as nitpicking.
@summertyme5748
8 ай бұрын
Actually this site is toxic. I like the film and point out that there are no plot holes. If you can name any plot holes without being toxic do so. I'm saying you can't. None of you can. Not toxic at all. Maybe you can use that ad hominem as an excuse for your inability to name any plot holes. What you call plot holes are just your theories based on your not understanding the actual film.
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
Just saw this item by item: _How the quantum machine still works after being inactive for 5 years_ It was turned off. The entire van was moved to storage. Why do you think it would not work? You're implying that you think it was left on for 5 years. Obviously not. The van also *still worked* lol. This isn't a plot hole. It just seems like you're not thinking clearly. Really this is the best you can do? _Me confused, machine turned off so me no understand how machine still work?_ 🤣 This site is at least good for an occasional laugh.
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
_Rhodes & Nebula don’t face the officers that tried to attack Peter in 2014?_ The Kree were *following Peter* - Peter was intercepted and followed before going into the temple. Nebula knows where it is - because she's from the future. The Kree would find Peter and interrogate him. They have no reason to ignore Peter and go into the temple . If they did, that would be a plot hole. The writers and directors are smarter than you think, and your plot holes are only holes in *your thinking* and so easily exploded. Don't be mad now...
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
_How Endgame Thor takes Dark World Thor’s hammer?_ This question reveals that you don't understand anything about Mjolnir in the 1st place. The hammer goes to Thor because he is still worthy to wield it, in the eyes of Odin. This is *why* he called it in the 1st place. After this tough love scene with his mother, and now has summoned the courage to see if he is still worthy in the eyes of his father. Likewise Steve Rogers can wield the hammer and the lightning because that is the power of Thor and he is worthy. The hammer enchantment is not - and never was a genetic endowment. The whole point of the enchantment to affirm worthiness as a measure of character, and not as an entitlement. Let me know if you are unclear about this, I suspect you are.
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
_How Cap left his friends to be with a woman he moved on from?_ _Some people move on, but not us._ - Steve Rogers - from Endgame _The War's over Steve - - we can go home now?_ - Peggy Carter. Admit that you don't recognize that last quote. Of course you don't. Why would you -> *It's from Age of Ultron* and foreshadows the ending of this film. That's how brilliant the storytelling is here. I'm sorry - but IT SIMPLY GOES OVER YOUR HEAD, because most of these films are not as subtle, complex or intelligent. Anyway - there are no plot holes. Which is why you can't find any. Anyone else care to try????
@AngryAnimeFan2
Жыл бұрын
I always preferred Endgame over Infinity. The ensemble of cast is (to me) one of the most amazing moments in Live Action. Only cartoons can channel that Thanos final words, are a nice take on an Ironic Echo as well
@austin_madore9417
Жыл бұрын
Infinity War > Endgame
@Lildevile-1gv7ej2j
Жыл бұрын
Avengers Endgame goin back in time is a rip off of 2014 x men days of future pass movie
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
Except in every *objective way.* Which film got an extremely rare A+ CinemaScore from actual audiences. - Endgame. Which film got the best reviews from film critics? - Endgame. Which film was the number one box office film of all time? - Endgame. But here is the best one........ *Which film is THIS FORUM ACTUALLY ABOUT........??????* Think about it....
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
@@Lildevile-1gv7ej2j _goin back in time.... men days of future pass movie_ Avengers and Xmen have both had time travel stories prior to these films. The films are nothing like each other in terms of how time travel is used. Days of Future past has an incoherent continuity and causality violating time travel which is one reason why it wasn't very successful. It both IGNORES the films that came before, and is completely ignored by everything that came after. Hence there are never any stakes in the film.
@pancakes8539
Жыл бұрын
When I found out that endgame was gonna revolve around time travel I got nervous. Time travel is hard to pull off especially when the franchise isn’t built around it. I think it was enjoyable, despite all the plot holes and rushed/forced character and plot moments. However I think you were being a little unfair about the whole tony plot hole. He’s a flawed character and being worried about his family’s safety is very human and in character for him. Even though he’s grown from that selfish playboy, he’s still not perfect. Also I don’t think the infinity stones worked like the pym particles so maybe it would have been possible for them to do traditional time travel and stop the snap in the first place. If that was possible, even though he could have relived his life with his family, there would also be no guarantee that it would be the same or they would turn out the same. So I think it’s understandable that he was hesitant.
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
Yea. Agree.
@CowboysCreed
Жыл бұрын
Civil War was a better Avengers movie than Endgame.
@AntsTheaterCorner2698
5 ай бұрын
Yes.
@--Paws--
Жыл бұрын
Looking back you can see the flaws a bit. I had this same "revelation" when I rewatched Spider-Man: No Way Home. However, my issue with that is how unconvincingly the characters are trying to portray themselves as New Yorkers. Slowly though the flaws in that movie was kind of apparent with how time and space works or how the mult-verse is implied, it was too loose.
@tiffanypersaud3518
Жыл бұрын
I love your vids. True, I didn’t understand why they didn’t go back to get the gauntlet with the stones, instead of making it more complicated - because for sure they needed nostalgia and a certain character death. I think in the five-year blip, the Avengers were trying to adjust to things, but the possibility of righting things when Scott came back into the picture presented themselves, and they had to try. Tony, to me, knowing how eccentric and erratic he his, didn’t want to lose Morgan and the life they had built together as a family, and that was a possibility. It wasn’t just about Morgan, but how many individuals and families were affected in the blip and during those five years, the lives they led did matter. I love Thor’s arc, fat Thor still being worthy and walking up the plate with everything he had, incapacitating mental insecurities and all, was very inspirational to me and always will be. And I agree that his arc eventually needed more balance. I agree about Steve Rogers.
@Huntanian
Жыл бұрын
Two minutes in and you're wrong. How could they not have planned Endgame's plot out when they foreshadowed it in Infinity War which came out literally one year beforehand? They were literally filmed together.
@T3aseW1thease
Жыл бұрын
he probably wasnt paying attention and he's just nitpicking
@T3aseW1thease
Жыл бұрын
honestly one of the worst takes ive seen from him
@trevormandouma
Жыл бұрын
Same
@misterfevillord1588
Жыл бұрын
What did they foreshadow?
@PaszerDye
Жыл бұрын
@@misterfevillord1588 that Antman accidentally evaded the snap and found a quantum way to time travel.
@shafir5726
Жыл бұрын
Avengers endgame was good for me. I like Infinity war better.
@juliancaraveo5700
Жыл бұрын
18:35 Yes That's what I've said. Removing Thanos and his army would screw up the events of Guardians of the Galaxy. It would also prevent the team from forming.
@razorback9999able
Жыл бұрын
"Time travel!" Anything that involves multiverses or time travel is very difficult, it's not recommended for young authors to write.
@afellownerd
Жыл бұрын
The solution to Ancient one's problem was to return the infinity stone their time before it left... even though they already established that you can't change the present/future by changing the past
@willt3223
Жыл бұрын
but according cro the tva the moment an infinity stone is removed from its timeline it cease to function.
@sweetoil2952
11 ай бұрын
@@willt3223….Isn’t that a major plot hole?
@ThreadBareHope1234
Жыл бұрын
You bring up a good point about the time skip. I had my own issues with this movie (though I loved it overall) but now I have a new reason. The long term effects of the snap could've been explored in phase four rather than glazed over in Endgame and the Falcon show.
@justinpatton6996
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact Kevin Feige told the writer's to use all of thier ideas for Infinity War, because more ideas wil come. I love Endgames finale of the MCU but it has a LOT of issues. It takes too long to get started reintroducing everyone when Infinity War didn't, cut the time travel to important parts, third act is where Endgame starts. I still love it and it's a perfect conclusion. Haven't seen any other movie after Endgame expect Spiderman FFH and NWH because it's Sony.😅
@NiGHTSIntoMemes
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Thanos didn't wipe out half of the entire population in Infinity War (which is irritating enough as it is, given his motivation goes entirely unchallenged by the film's narrative despite the fact that it's pretty well known that overpopulation is a myth), he wiped out half of _all life,_ plants and animals included, as confirmed by Marvel. Which means he wiped out half of the very resources he was insistent were becoming scarce. A+ plan there, man. Say what you want about Comic Thanos, but at the very least you can respect the guy for wiping out half of all life in order to try and impress Death. MCU Thanos is just an idiot in philosophers clothing.
@FULANODETAL
11 ай бұрын
es he was wrong....we are in the worst economical crisis ever for the COVID thing than killed 0.023% of world `population
@FULANODETAL
11 ай бұрын
yes malthaus thinked that..but its hard to argue with a 8 feet purple guy...yes GAMORA species is "extint",but thanos still thinks than he"made her planet better"in infinite war.. but in fact thanos after a military conquiest,,murdered half of prisoners..that will destroyed gamora species genetical pool,society and even the ecosystems of the planet..,like when desert conquered central asia after Genghis khan murdereed a lot of people
@rabbitcreative
11 ай бұрын
> overpopulation is a myth Thank-you. Earth is super-abundant.
@FULANODETAL
11 ай бұрын
@@rabbitcreative well THANOS was totaly wrong..and also 90% of man kind live in the coast
@summertyme5748
8 ай бұрын
"overpopulation is a myth" Carl Sagan disagrees with you, as did Jim Starlin.
@Alitheone6618
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your vid but respectfully disagree
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
Same.
@aidanpurkiss9457
2 ай бұрын
Same
@Mr_Robotts
Жыл бұрын
This was the movie when Disney assumed full control of the MCU from the older marvel studios, and you can see it. Phase 4 is all Disney, and mostly terrible. This movie foreshadows it.
@Thed538dhsk
Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about??? Disney had fully controlled marvel studios since 2010 and the films made past the avengers are fully Disney creations not just movies that came with the purchase like 2010. And Kevin fiegie was given full power under Disney back in 2016.
@Mr_Robotts
Жыл бұрын
@@Thed538dhsk they were still made by the old marvel studios using their scripts until this movie. This is when Disney ceased full control.
@Thed538dhsk
Жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Robotts wat??? Old scripts from when? Disney had full control over scripts from the old marvel studios leadership once Kevin fiegie took control in 2016. So anything released 2017-onward is full Disney and Kevin. Even 2013-2016 was Disney able to veto anything they didn't like so basically full control. If you don't like something it doesn't mean Disney took control of it it just means you don't like jt
@revolvingworld2676
Жыл бұрын
@@Thed538dhsk Nah it was definitely Disney
@Thed538dhsk
Жыл бұрын
@@revolvingworld2676 what was?
@scotcheggable
Жыл бұрын
One thing that ill say is that if you go back in time and change it before someone is born, even if you include some weird reason why people alive all went back, the ones who havent been born yet are essentially killed, even if they are later born again. That's not the same person, its another person who looks exactly the same.
@Staralium
Жыл бұрын
Personally I preferred the infinity war ending as it seems more realistic rather than going back in time and undoing things to fight another Thanos.
@Yak1312
Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely NOT inconsistent with Tony Starks character. He’s human, he always has been. He had a kid since then and he’s tired of fighting, defeated and doesn’t want to risk everything. If u have a kid it changes everything. Not wanting to risk Morgan’s life was his focus and that only makes him more believable as it makes him human.
@summertyme5748
8 ай бұрын
This film has the best character development of any in the MCU. It's just lost on fans who really think like 'video games' where action figures have limited 'moves' and psychological depth does not exist.
@floofthedoof
Жыл бұрын
Unrelated but I will never forget how I got a free screening to Infinity War without any spoilers or prior knowledge (watched the movies but don't know the comics) only to hear the host say that it's part one of two movies.
@shadowleon659
Жыл бұрын
Avengers Endgame is overrated as hell. I haven't seen it since 2019 and I hated how they insulted other time films like Timecop, Star Trek 4, Star Trek 8, Terminator and Back to the Future.
@Alucard2091
Жыл бұрын
By default movie finales r going to be overrated just like Deathly Hallows pt.2 or Logan.
@Mojo1356
Жыл бұрын
So you’re upset the time travel functioned more akin to Dragon Ball than those films? What a petty thing to criticize.
@shadowleon659
Жыл бұрын
@@Mojo1356 It's not the main reason.
@Mojo1356
Жыл бұрын
@@shadowleon659 still petty.
@shadowleon659
Жыл бұрын
@@Mojo1356 I also didn't like Professor Hulk and Fat Thor. As well as Captain America making that selfish decision of staying in the past.
@eeeesproductions
11 ай бұрын
I have never been more disappointed in a movie than this. I have never been able to feel hype for a movie release again. The lights turned on in the cinema at the end and me and my company all looked at each other and said: was I the only one to thought that sucked?
@GraysonRogers-f2h
8 күн бұрын
I saw this movie with my dad, and after leaving the theater I thought it was great. The very next day, not so great and could’ve been better. I appreciate it more with every rewatch, and revisiting it now will feel like a major breath of fresh air after seeing pointless and boring garbage like FATWS, MoM, She Hulk, LAT, Ms. Marvel, and so on. NWH though, flawed but absolutely fantastic, as well as Guardians 3👏👏👏👏👏👏
@tylerstevens9023
Жыл бұрын
They explained in the movie that they couldn't go back to 2018 and undo the snap as it wouldn't alter their timeline, it'd just put them in a separate branch timeline where they interfered. The only solution was to bring alternate timeline stones to their timeline and undo what Thanos already did.
@SilvrSavior
Жыл бұрын
So... why didn't they go back to just before Thanos snapped his fingers and just take the stones there? Wait for Thor to throw stormbringer at Thanos, and then jump him there? Our go back to Titan to kill him, and take the stones there, wait for Vision to have the mind stone removed, then go back to their own time and undo the snap?
@tylerstevens9023
Жыл бұрын
@@SilvrSavior because it would just create a branch timeline and not affect the true timeline they're from. They can't affect the past, only the present to alter the future. Had the rat let Scott out of the quantum realm sooner, the impact would've been lesser but it took 5 years for that to happen so those 5 years had to continue.
@Mr_Robotts
Жыл бұрын
@@tylerstevens9023... except they brought the past Thanos and his army to the future and obliterated them, so they no longer exist in the past, and now there's a paradox
@SilvrSavior
Жыл бұрын
@@tylerstevens9023 Did I say they could affect their future in the past? There are just easier points to get an alternate set of stones than their convoluted plan to fix their present.
@afellownerd
Жыл бұрын
that doesn't address anything
@Match25
Жыл бұрын
soon as they introduced time travel i was iffy about this film
@gingergoddess8953
Жыл бұрын
Also, I'd be interested to know your thought son Loki (the series)? I loathe it, I loathe Sylvie, I loathe the TVA. Biggest detriment to the MCU *since* Endgame.
@zzay3345
Жыл бұрын
If we can quit shitting on Tony for just a sec. Hypothetically speaking, if he did go back and fix 2018, what are the odds of the 1 spermcell that is Morgan winning the race again on the exact date and time that she was conceived? Assuming hes got the same load in the chamber a year or so after defeating Thanos because shes 3 or 4 years old in Endgame.
@tgreen9825
Жыл бұрын
You gotta view this movie more as an amusement park ride rather than a film. It’s purpose was to pay tribute to everything that came beforehand and to give a fitting exit to its hero’s (minus Thor and Hulk for whatever reason.) it’s a hopelessly flawed movie and it looks worse as the MCU continues, but it works well as a fun tribute
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
That’s a good way to look at this movie. 😁
@DougieYT
Жыл бұрын
My main gripes with Endgame are the ending for Steve/Cap, Hulk and Thor, I hated how Hulk and Thor were reduced to bumbling idiots. And with Steve, I don’t like how they had him go back in time just to be with Peggy which completely discredits the whole arc of Steve moving on and learning to let go of the past and build his own future. Although I still liked Endgame, just no where near as much as I did with Infinity War.
@marianosaldivar3456
Жыл бұрын
Why is everyone calling it trash now like just cause Secret Invasion was bad and others, don’t blame Endgame for that
@Victor-qx3vx
Жыл бұрын
It’s more like: There were always people who disliked this movie. And, when someone makes a video with that specific take, people who didn’t like the movie feel invited to share their opinion. Pretty much the same happens with people who like this movie: They feel almost compelled to defend it because someone is criticizing it.
@Ado_Rodd
Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of fat Thor. He lost so much during Ragnarok and Infinity War such as Loki, Odin, his home, his long lost sister, the chance to save 50% of the world, it makes sense for him to turn to beer and food as drinking and eating are common coping mechanisms when dealing with trauma.
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too. He only could take so much. 😭
@sloppnbiscuiitz
3 ай бұрын
*The fact that he’s known as fat Thor tells how much of a joke that version of the character really is.. also the idea of a broken, less talkative thor (fat or not) is good BUT using him as pure comedy was a mistake imo*
@RedDeadSpider343
Жыл бұрын
What really confusing is that Thanos in the past dies in the final battle so that mean that the future changes like infinity war won't be a thing because Thanos was turned to dusted by the snap before Infinity war. As for captain marvel, where the hell is she during infinity war? Like she that powerful to take out Thanos but she never shows. I can get for ant man but not captain marvel. I do love the movie but infinity war was way more better than endgame. There's questionable plotholes
@delrunplays2903
Жыл бұрын
On the first point, it's because they aren't really time-traveling, but rather traveling to other universes whose present state is nearly identical to a past state of the main universe (which they contradict with that stupid gag with "time flowing" through Ant-Man when they'd already established they were trying to hop universes). The Thanos that was killed off at the end was not the main universe Thanos, in other words. As with Captain Marvel in Infinity Wars, there is simply no way she could have been made aware of events in time to have arrived to make a difference. Fury is the only one who has the knowledge and means to contact her, and most of the events of Infinity War happen beyond his awareness. Keep in mind that from Fury's perspective, an alien ship came, blew some things up, and left within the span of an hour - hardly a reason to call her.
@RedDeadSpider343
Жыл бұрын
@@delrunplays2903 I guess that made sense. It just Endgame has parts that is questionable but it doesn't mean it I hate it. Just confusing that all but thank you.
@JStryker47
Жыл бұрын
If I were Carol, I would've just stayed on Earth. Who gives a crap about what's going on in other galaxies anyway? I mean, I'd probably be compelled to help the Skrulls find their new home, sure. But once that was over and done with, I'd want to go back home and take back the life that was stolen from me.
@delrunplays2903
Жыл бұрын
@@JStryker47 As she said, not everywhere has the Avengers. She gets that much right at least. Given her service to the Kree, she might have felt obligated to make amends to some extent.
@nicholasemjohnson47
Жыл бұрын
She wasn't there because she didn't know.
@mrdreamy1747
Жыл бұрын
Hot Take: Hruce Hanner was a bad choice. Bruce Banner and the Hulk being combined was neat at first, but it kinda hurts the whole "Jekyll and Hyde" aspect of Bruce's character. Call it "character development" all you want, I call it a downgrade.
@spritvio639
Жыл бұрын
Everyone doesn't like Endgame now.
@IAmTheEagleHTM
Жыл бұрын
Good!
@V_inco
Жыл бұрын
Fr everyone enjoyed it but now some random ass guy just nitpicks at random things and everyone is like "yeah I never really liked endgame"💀
@KirbyStarAnimation
Жыл бұрын
@@IAmTheEagleHTMWhy everyone put so much time and effort in order to make the movie since this movie was built up to for over a decade and was an ending of an era for marvel
@sloppnbiscuiitz
3 ай бұрын
@@V_inco*Why y’all keep using the word “everyone” when it’s not n also there was plenty of people you didn’t like it when it came out. Did you have tabs on “everybody’s” thoughts on the film when it came out?😂*
@V_inco
3 ай бұрын
@@sloppnbiscuiitz MF have you never heard of social media?💀 everyone was singing it's praises were you living under a damn rock? You didn't even have to look around to see the fact everyone loved it
@shawndashno6022
Жыл бұрын
The movie was fun, but in the climax i immediately asked myself, "Why does captain Marvel have to bring the gauntlet to the van?? Leave it with the Avengers and go bring the van TO the Avengers!!!" Clearly she's strong enough to pick it up lol, but I guess that takes some of the "agency" out of the finale.
@Match25
Жыл бұрын
the Snap caused tons more problems for phase 4
@hisham031170
Жыл бұрын
If other movies use time travel to course correct, people say it’s lazy writing, but when Marvel did, people say it’s brilliant. Some people just jump on bandwagons and are hypocrites.
@runisa
Жыл бұрын
Time travel is usually bad in most story’s I liked it in back to the future but that’s it
@summertyme5748
8 ай бұрын
^ Back to the future has comedy time travel and makes no sense. The irony is - it's filled with plot holes - and Endgame - is not.
@switchboy2320
Жыл бұрын
TBH, I really liked the time travel sequence but it did overstayed its welcome. and while yes it is a bit confusing why tony said no for helping then said yes i will help the next, I do still like his character arc. but I would have liked if they showed the complete utter chaos of everyone turning into dust and it would have made the film 4 hours, I still would have liked to see the darker side of the snap. but it still one of my favortie film from 2019. After endgame they should have just left film making and started with tv shows like daredevil and punisher and made marvel 18 plus, where they could make more unique and better tv shows than the shit we got now. Why on earth they had to continue the mcu after endgame now in 2023 is mind boggling
@correlgamers7518
Жыл бұрын
Tony said no because he already had a life here and didn't want to risk not being there for his child. However, the thought of having even the slightest chance to save the others was presented to him, and while he said no at first. The thought was still on his mind and knowing that there could be a way for him to bring those who died back(especially peter) but doing nothing would haunt him for the rest of his life, that was the whole point of his conversation with Pepper who advised him to do what is right even if he risked not coming back.
@switchboy2320
Жыл бұрын
@correlgamers7518 so yeah I do think his points on tony was a bit off let's put it at that
@XEclipse360
Жыл бұрын
I disagree, this movie is one of the best marvel movies ever made. I loved the time travel aspect.
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@Victor-qx3vx
Жыл бұрын
I really didn’t like what they did to Thanos in Endgame. Unfortunately I also wasn’t able to feel anything during Iron Man’s sacrifice. As soon as everyone appeared on the big, gray, dusty cgi battle all I could think was “Oh, ok, the good guys already won. Now is just a waiting game until the movie is over.”
@V_inco
Жыл бұрын
What is bro talking about
@Victor-qx3vx
Жыл бұрын
@@V_inco If you didn’t feel the same that’s perfectly fine. Good for you.
@Josh-pg3qb
2 ай бұрын
I honestly hated that the final battle was once again just a giant army vs a giant army.
@psychomagalor4902
Жыл бұрын
Yeah sorry but I pretty much disagreed with every point in this video. Felt like a really big misunderstanding of the movie and what each scene was actually trying to say/do. Not gonna say your wrong for feeling this way but I just wanted to say I really didn’t feel like this was very well argued. Just felt like 20 or so minutes of saying “this is bad” without properly explaining why.
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
Yea agree.
@TahuMata1888
Ай бұрын
I never got to say this five years ago but I’ll say it now: the background for the final battle against 2014 Thanos looks like a video game rendered background as well as the one moment when Thanos made Thor’s weapon electrocute Tony to a concussion the way those electricity crackles flow through his armour and FRIDAY called him to wake up
@sadge4022
Жыл бұрын
i know that movie critics usually overlook comic accuracy and the source material when it comes to criticizing a movie, but with this movie is especially bad. they had the source material. the entire 'infinity" trilogy (infinity gauntlet, infinity war and infinity crusade), the 'infinity' run written by jonathan hickman and other stories that involved thanos as a common threat/protagonist were really good choices to drive this story on. the main infinity gauntlet storyline was a good reference, that story literally started where the infinity war movie basically ended, and it was amazing. endgame didn't need time travel to solve its conflicts, nor its characters arcs.
@TH3D3M0NCR3AT0R
Жыл бұрын
This is one of the biggest hot takes I’ve seen on KZitem for a while…
@ivanbluecool
Жыл бұрын
Yeah i never really liked endgame as much ws infinity war. I saw both 3 times just to be sure and frankly each time infinity was way better Endgame was just a reaction to the events of infinity war while infinity war was a culmination of everything that happened before starting with loki dying and how powerful thanos crew is showing how hard they work to gain even an inch. Thanos isn't a sloch and doing his job to win. Endgame without talking about the ego on captain mavel. It was so bad to start as a buddy cop movie going through time and honestly felt like an excuse to get loki back into the universe somehow in his tv show. Then we get the 5 years and nothing changed. No major wars. No power struggle. No broken families. Nothing. Everything was the same and that was pretty bad for world building
@trevormandouma
Жыл бұрын
Some stuff did change In the end credit scene of infinity and ant man and the wasp they show the effects Also in falcon and the winter soldier and ant man and the wasp quantumainia they show how people living in homes that the dusted people lived in went homeless
@lollybirdy
Жыл бұрын
Im just gonna say that the flash explained time travel way better than endgame did
@PaszerDye
Жыл бұрын
I totally get why you think Frozen and its sequel might be bad movies looking back. Hell, even when I 1st watched Frozen, I could already tell it just didn't live up to Rapunzel's performance, which was even worse for Frozen II. But you might be on a hindsight high and just hating on Endgame on reflex.
@SIMBA-tq2ch
Жыл бұрын
Bruh opinions
@OutOfControl-y8u
7 ай бұрын
Its better to accept that Thanos snapped the MCU. Everything since then has been a delerious fever dream a patient experiences on their deathbed
@summertyme5748
6 ай бұрын
I agree that post Endgame MCU is a failure. But without Endgame - the Infinity Saga is a failure of course. Infinity War is Thanos heroes journey - it is a perfect end to HIS STORY, which is why his character dies at the beginning of Endgame. However - it is NOT a fitting end to the story of the Avengers, but Endgame is. Whole video is a shit take. Sorry they just missed it.
@dereks4531
17 күн бұрын
Endgame ruined the entire saga, they should re-edit infinity war so we can get an extended version where at the moment Thanos does the snap it cuts to hawk eye's family then have it cut to Nick Fury and Maria Hill then have it cut back to where infinity war would normally end but instead after Thanos sits down in the garden have it cut to the the first half of endgame minus the hawk eye family scene then have it end with Thor cutting Thanos head off, roll endgame credits with infinity wars music, the end. 🙌😁🙌 A dark ending with no sequel to resolve it yes but it's still better than what we got 😂😂 I'm sure there's a parallel universe where infinity war and the mcu got the ending it deserved lol 😆
@themightyjaboccon
Жыл бұрын
Totally with this I think the MCU died respectfully and perhaps coincidentally with Stan Lee. people consider end game to be "the last good movie" the "end of an era" the end of the good content and the start of the bad, well this movie was actually Infinity war, everything post Infinity war has been awful barr a couple of exceptions: No way home, GOTG3. its frustrating to see the pure bias this movie has developed in people by being the "big finale" despite it failing miserably as such, Endgame will always be a part of cinematic history, this I will always be greatful to be a part of, especially at that midnight showing opening night, but aside from Endgames place in the world of Cinema its actually just not a good movie, it played the biggest part in everything currently wrong with the MCU, its a slog of a flashback episode that removes all the tension in the first 15 mins of the film to maintain this lack of tension even throughout the movies final conflict, until Thanos gets the gauntlet there is really no sense of tension at all, its just a big fuck fest for the heroes... which is nice for that initial viewing but past this its fucking boring. as a side note from someone who's fav Marvel Character was always Thanos, how they handled the character in Endgame should be considered nothing short of embarrassing.
@suicune2001
Жыл бұрын
I saw this movie in a drive-in theater. I couldn't really see or hear what was going on but it seemed pretty lame to the point I never went back to see it later. Good to know what I missed. Lol
@chickenpng459
Жыл бұрын
the stakes may have been present if there was anything changing in the present due to the actions they do while time travelling. back to the future had a simple time travel plot which had stakes and put pressure on the protagonist, and then in endgame there's just no reason to give a shit because there's no time crunch or risk to the time travel.
@RacCkhn
4 ай бұрын
It would have been cool to see them make Thor like this super depressed, broken shell of a asgardian warrior. He lost his brother right after reconciling with him. He lost 3/4ths of his asgardian population to Thanos's bloodlust. And he has nobody left in the entire universe. No real reason to press forward and fight another day. Thor isolates himself in Nedavilir or somewhere in Norse mythology. Then the avengers go to Wong who survived the snap and ask him to find Thor. And Wong takes them to him but a fight ensues where Hulk basically has a heart to heart with Thor while the other avengers with Wong just watch on. And Thor and Hulk kick the crap out of each other which would be a physical way for Thor to process his grief while not hurting anybody. They literally did this in the comic books when they gave Thor gamma radiation and turned him into a hulk to fight Hulk. Thor and Hulk fight and then they hug or do some handshake or something. And the avengers walk up and rally around Thor. Basically, his friends show up for him when he needs them the most instead of how he usually shows up for them when they need him the most. Then they go fight Thanos and save the universe and bring back Thor's dead people of asgard. Then he goes on to be King Thor in Love and Thunder because he is king in the comics. But i guess MCU doesn't give two farts about the comics. Thor shouldn't have been comic relief. Depression is not funny, loss and grief and hopelessness is not funny. Being overweight or eating too much to cope with sadness is not funny. Marvel ran out of good ideas after Infinity War.
@LazyDarwin
Жыл бұрын
When I finished watching endgame, I had mixed feelings about it. I liked it a lot as a conclusion to the legendary infinity saga that had been a part of my childhood and teenage. However, a part of me felt dissatisfied as I felt that it could have been improved a lot. First thing, which is not just true for this movie, but true for phase 2 and phase 3 as well was nerfing the hell out of hulk. Hulk has always been my favourite character after iron man and I got very tired of watching him getting nerfed continuously. Another character that was nerfed was obviously thor, for which movie tries to provide us an explanation of him being depressed after what he has been through over the years. But in reality, thor was nerfed so that spotlight could be gifted to Captain Marvel and Wanda. Another major problem was with the core concept of the movie which is time travel, and this is not the first time a movie has not been able to deliver a satisfactory story associated with it, since it's a very complex concept with higher chances of leaving plot holes behind. They should have thought of a different storyline.
@somelamenamehowaboutmr.juk6231
4 ай бұрын
I’ll be honest. When I walked out of the theater, I felt off about the movie, and I never watched the movie since that one time in the theater I went to see it.
@jessicanoelle2012jp
Жыл бұрын
Montages of people coming back should've included an abusive spouse who was snapped away, coming home, and discovering their spouse had happily moved on and the horror on his/her face when the spouse opens the door 😅😅 How do we know all those who were snapped away were worthy of coming back??? It would've Been more interesting if Thanos specifically targeted pure innocent people, making those who were left behind reflect on their own flaws. Sort of like the Rapture and Thanos "playing" God. That would've made the urgency to get people back more imminent
@KirbyStarAnimation
Жыл бұрын
Maybe but that would’ve have been way to dark and religious. Also thanos doesn’t even know who’s innocent and not
@lotsofspots
Жыл бұрын
The world has _literally_ moved on in five years - Earth and the whole Solar System moves through space, those people should be rematerialising in the void between stars.
@nicholasemjohnson47
Жыл бұрын
Hulk made it so that wouldn't happen when he resnapped.
@TCRgaming-wx3lf
Жыл бұрын
This channel is always full of complaining, everything is awful, he's right about some of them, but this one, was not right
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
Agree.
@SIMBA-tq2ch
Жыл бұрын
Stay mad kid
@DougieYT
Жыл бұрын
It’s insane that in real life we’re literally in the canon year and month where Tony sacrificed himself for the sake of the entire universe.
@jean-pierredevent970
5 ай бұрын
After the end of Infinity Wars, it felt like they really had to come up with something fabulous to make this total mess undone but that quantum trick time travel felt a bit disappointing. A good solution, but somehow I expected something out of the blue where nobody could have thought of. We've seen this time travel trick already too often in many other movies, I guess.
@maxtrejozavala2740
9 ай бұрын
They introduce time travel in this movie only for in thor 4 to reveal that eternity exist in the mcu
@summertyme5748
9 ай бұрын
Which is why Thor 4 sucked. That film creates a cartoon universe where magic fairy solves all problems thereby making the entire MCU moot, all of it.
@brandonmuse5532
Жыл бұрын
I have always hated the treatment of Thor in this film. Currently also. His character from Raganorok and Infiniti War was so much better. He should have been way stronger.
@antona.1327
2 ай бұрын
Pal, Thor didn't develop in Ragnajoke. That's when his character assassination began. Your video was on point before you fumbled with that misguided praise for one of the worst MCU movies ever made (not saying much, I know).
@Kurse754
Жыл бұрын
💀 I’m never watching this guy again 💀
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
Same here probably.
@SIMBA-tq2ch
Жыл бұрын
Lol mad
@kwtherandomchannel7177
Жыл бұрын
@@SIMBA-tq2ch ehhh more like not really into his videos. For me at least.
@Kurse754
Жыл бұрын
@@SIMBA-tq2ch fr
@SeanAlegator
2 ай бұрын
Endgame was always awful. I did enjoy the film when I was in the theaters, but I began noticing a lot of the flaws after a month. Time travel really ruined the writing of not only the film but the entire mcu itself. The writers of the mcu cannot comprehend the difference between an alternate timeline or a different universe. In fact, this film showcases and visually admits it. It doesn't know time travel because the writers believe that a different timeline is actually a separate universe.
@jchan2299
Жыл бұрын
My big complaint for End Game was that it felt subpar to IW. IW was tight and felt organic while paying respect to all charadaters (heroes and villains alike). End Game played faster and looser with what had been established. The character assassinations/watering down was cringe. And there were some forced moments that felt so forced it was an audible groan inducing moment (girl boss moment being the worst offender). End Game is probably the worst Avengers movie compared to the other 3 before it....and I hate AoU.
@Victor-qx3vx
Жыл бұрын
Right?! It’s still hard for me to believe both were directed by the same people. I was distracted by the girl boss moment because some characters didn’t knew each other, but the actual offenders to me were: 1. Dr. Strange saying “If I tell you what happens, it won’t happen” only to give Tony a hand signal to act. 2. Cap whispering “assemble” when they were all already there 😂
@NamFoService
4 ай бұрын
Endgame is not aging well at all
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
Quite the contrary there are entire forums dedicated to this masterpiece and they have 20 - 30 thousands upvotes and views. This video is pretty dumb. It doesn’t understand the film. I don’t think the person who made this video can understand any film, and his target audience seems to be people even slower than he is. 😂
@NamFoService
4 ай бұрын
@@summertyme5748 Using a rat as the key is masterpiece element? Or making Thor and Hulk into butters?
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
Shallow remarks. I might have even agreed with you when I was seven years old. The rat isn’t a key. It’s the 1 in 14 million probabilities that require a ‘butterfly effect’ that is the key. But you don’t understand that. This whole forum is like Beavis and Butthead go to the movies and don’t understand what happened to “Hulk Smash?” 😂 The idea that Hulk and Thor are butters because they are no longer portrayed as 1 dimensional action figure dolls for little kids to play with, is simply juvenile. Professor Hulk is actually the best of both worlds - both a next level genius, and with a nearly indestructible physique which enabled him to wield the INFINITY GAUNTLET. But you don’t understand anything beyond CG images hulk smash, which isn’t even a movie, it’s really a moronic video game. So…again, I understand where you are coming from. Just sad that you are still *stuck* there. Repeating comic book Kindergarten forever. And Bro Thor is brilliant portrayal by Hemsworth showing a man who is broken by his guilt and failure - who nonetheless picks himself up and summons the courage to go toe to toe with Thanos. But again - a tiny child - only sees - Thor is fat and that is ‘bad’. It’s funny but the Rock thought he could build a successful comic book character by condescending to your ‘thinking’. But he failed miserably because he doesn’t understand what actually makes for a good movie. He thinks empty spectacle - much like wrestling is all this is required. He has more muscles and better looks than *any* actor playing character by far. So how could he fail? He failed because unlike Bro Thor - his character was completely vapid and empty and - his acting, unlike Hemsworth’s was mediocre, so no one cares. That’s what you will likely never understand. No one cares about 1 dimension comic book stick figures. Movie goers care about characters and that’s why Endgame is the #1 super hero movie of all time - with nothing else even being close. Go back to crying about Thor and Hulk again. 😂
@summertyme5748
4 ай бұрын
It’s like you were given McBeth and think it’s awful because it has too few ‘splosens and even worse much of the poetry doesn’t rhyme…unlike say - Mother Goose, which is what you were expecting and all you know.😂
@NamFoService
4 ай бұрын
@@summertyme5748 jesus christ calm down
@goldenyoshistar1
Жыл бұрын
Also, if they had made Steve Rogers go to old man, if Stan Lee was alive, it would have opened even more cans of worms as it would have really broken the fabric of the MCU. Imagine finding out that Stan Lee was an older Captain America all this time. Now that would have really gone and messed up alot of people's brains.
@rowntreeplayz
4 ай бұрын
There's so Much marvel stuff nowadays that I've grown sick of seeing any Mcu stuff or mcuized hero redesigns
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