For those disagreeing: if you're sure Bionic Fuel is better, please link me a video of you running ANY mission/infiltration/whatever and link it here. I will do the same piece of content on non-Bionic Fuel Bunny. If you're unable to create a video, tell me what the piece of content is and why you think Bionic Fuel wins out.
@kungfudavie
2 ай бұрын
well, if I'm running something like kuiper mining, instead of spending all my mods on skill cost reduction, cooldown, i put mine into expansion and skill power and HP. I am non stop running and using hp collector and i can do it faster and i dont have to worry about looking for MP drops. I can sit on the fringe and nuke the ads from outside of damage range and not be running through the middle of all the aggro and collecting MP bricks to keep my sprint up. For me, its alot less hassle.
@largekoi
2 ай бұрын
@@kungfudavie Consider running shield collector over HP collector for bionic fuel Davie
@DreadPirate89
2 ай бұрын
@@largekoi Consider doing the math on shield collector Largekoi. 6.3% of 4k shield is 252 returned on a 2second cooldown, getting 4k shield requires you running shield mods instead of HP/Def hurting you even more on top of shields being instantly deleted the moment anything looks at you. However HP is a consistent stream of protection that can recharge you mid boss fight assuming you have actual skill and turn off sprint when you don't need it (which it shouldn't even be on during boss fights unless you need rapid pulses for balls).
@cursedshikikan
2 ай бұрын
Bionic fuel is good for those who already fully slotted their Bunny for high voltage crit setup and cannot equip any -cost mods for running around. I use HV bunny for infiltrations and bosses. And my BF bunny clears regular missions in OW. It's not about being better, it's about having an alternative setup for different situations.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
@@cursedshikikan If you're running CDR on this build, rolling is still better, so you're not gaining anything from running Bionic fuel.
@mankaranbedi8927
2 ай бұрын
irl Ajax explaining me stuff about Bunny. Thanks
@deltastraven
Ай бұрын
Hey could you tell me what mods you are using on your build? I checked this video of yours and I noticed that the top bar for sprinting when your using speed of light it drains at a Snails Pace… and I don’t understand how that’s even possible? When I run with bunny all my Mana or MP is completely drained in like 6 seconds it’s absolutely ridiculous I don’t even get her bottom bar halfway…. I’ve seen videos of ppl running that feels like an entire min and then the bar isn’t even halfway…. I wouldn’t use bionic fuel if I could keep my mana up but I’m constantly drained and unable to run around….. I can use my other abilities but I can never sprint and it’s frustrating…. Any help or info on what mods to use would be greatly appreciated 🥲
@Hakei
Ай бұрын
Watch my Bunny Build video.
@Sayon1337
2 ай бұрын
I use it because my bunny doesn't have any Malachite for skill cost reduction. So Bionic Fuel is the only way if I want a big aoe for mobbing and normal dungeon. For hard dungeons, I use my High-Voltage bossing build and swap my Spear and shield mod for the Maximize range mod giving 25.8m. Ultimately I don't think it sucks, it allows people who built for all damage to be still able to use big aoe for mobbing.
@marcosfortes36
2 ай бұрын
what i enjoy about bunny is really the speed you can achieve, bionic fuel takes that feeling from her so i dont like using it
@UpStart5
2 ай бұрын
So after building into Bionic Fuel and messing around with it over the last day or so, I mostly agree with what you're saying. The reduction in speed hurts and is noticeable. I have found one area where it excels though - resource farming. I needed to get some additional Hellion to craft Ultimate Valby, which comes from resource chests in Fortress. Being able to run indefinitely when there are no mobs around, plus have the standard shockwave (vs High Voltage) allowed me to hit a lot more of the orange resource boxes than I would have seen. Worked like a charm. If you're going with a mod for combat though, just use High Voltage.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Nimble Fingers + Maximize Conservation + Narcissism allows you to recover MP while sprinting on Bunny. I forgot about Narcissism in the video. You'll be sprinting 15% between resources. Enjoy.
@UpStart5
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei I'll have to try that out! Was actually looking at Narcissism yesterday but hadn't seen anyone cover it.
@DigimonMasterTrainer
2 ай бұрын
Hey mate, a little unrelated to the video but would you have a good general Bunny build which is flexible for most content? There is so much contradicting information out there and I would really like to base my module upgrades around you opinion as you know what you're talking about.
@zerofighterkicks2041
13 күн бұрын
what do you think about Meoui's build?
@NongIng
2 ай бұрын
... I am so sorry I got distracted by how buff you are
@bompop43
Ай бұрын
could you show the setup that gives 50s of uptime?
@DenyThisFlesh
2 ай бұрын
I just run high voltage all the time. I have mp collector on for most things, but I put on dangerous ambush for intercept bosses. Bionic fuel just seems pointless.
@MarwanAyman-ge7xh
2 ай бұрын
Does skill cost work for bionic fuel aka less hp taken?
@SnoopVee
2 ай бұрын
Do you have a build for what we are seeing in the video? I would love to have this for farming. It would speed things up for me ALOT!
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Check my latest video.
@Archerforthelord
2 ай бұрын
4:40 is the moment I realized bionic fuel needed a buff
@derekfromyt2
Ай бұрын
Also the problem with bionic fuel is the shields you have to pair it with. Shields are weaker to magic damage than hp is for some reason, also some enemys have auto aim and they can ko you easily on bionic fuel. Ive ran sone dungeons with bionic fuel though its comfortable, it just dies sometimes. i can get a guaranteed clear just running HP. Also if you get ko w bionic youre shield dont recover on revive, shield collector is not enough to help big damage and the general shield regeneration is very slow and gets slower the more shield you have. It has no scaling. Bionic fuel is only for anything in the field, like farming. Sucks but true
@sabre4382
Ай бұрын
Yeah I’ve tried running bionic fuel quite a number of times, and it seems only good for farming and even then it gets incredibly boring after a bit. Also the main change between ult bunny and regular on stat graph is hp which didn’t have much of to begin with 😂, then just gonna burn right thru it. Honestly most of the ult characters don’t have a big stat change except for Ajax and lepic.
@lobstel2515
2 ай бұрын
As a Bionic Fuel hater turn enjoyer I would like to share my thought. In term of mobbing, Mana Bunny is usually faster (not by a long short but still). But what I think is the pros of Bionic Fuel is it requires less modules to be maximize. You don't need any skill cost down or max MP increase which open more slot to more quality of life modules such as duration and cooldown for permanent 3rd skill or even higher damage with skill crit rate/damage and Electric/Singular Specialist instead of Focus counter part. But what I find most valuable of Bionic Fuel build is for the Cataclyst slots opportunity when you are also building into Bossing build. Mana Bunny need at least 2 Malachite slot for skill cooldown and skill cost down usually 3 which is not very useful for bossing since there's not many good Malachite modules for bossing. However the Bionic Fuel build only require 1 Malachite slot which open more slots for damaging modules such as Almandine for skill crit rate/damage which I gravitate more to since I'm more of a min/max player so I aim for the most damaging build I can (with some quality of life of course). This is just my point of view tho. It still depends on which ever playstyle you like more there is no wrong in playing the game. My build with modules in order: Mobbing: Bionic Fuel - Nimble Fingers - Increased HP - Electric Specialist - Focus on Singular - HP Collector Melee Slot - Skill Insight - Skill Concentration - Battle of Stamina - Skill Expansion - Maximize Range (21.8s duration on 3rd skill with 20.5s cooldown) Bossing: High-Voltage - Time Distribution - Increased HP - Electric Specialist - Singular Specialist - Dangerous Ambush/Lethal Infection Melee Slot - Skill Insight - Skill Concentration - HP Amplification - Skill Expansion - Spear and Shield
@dantetran3381
2 ай бұрын
Love to see a buff guy spending time to video games while also keeping a healthy lifestyle like you. Keep up the good work my friend, love your vids
@zondor8123
2 ай бұрын
So thats why some bunny players i met have their hp gone down for no reason 😂
@sabre4382
Ай бұрын
Yeah… honestly the best one I’m seeing is high voltage for bossing, which u get from pyromaniac hard mode.
@zaixey
2 ай бұрын
Everything that was said in this video were exactly my thoughts a few days ago when I was deciding what to use for Bunny. Plus, HV procs, imo, looks better and is more satisfying to use than being a fragile turtle which is unnecessary as stated in the video.
@yoannbirrien3048
Ай бұрын
Bionic fuel with shield collector very good
@sabre4382
Ай бұрын
Basically the only collector I don’t have 😂
@isaacgarcia9234
2 ай бұрын
Thanks man I was thinking to heavy invest in bionic fuel in the future but I didn’t know the reduce speed what’s that heavy take the whole purposes of “infinite speed”
@palmitexgamer2420
2 ай бұрын
Can u do an new video about best farms for energy activators?
@UpStart5
2 ай бұрын
Not me finally getting to Frost Walker last night and running my head into the wall with pubs just to get two clears. Got Absolute Zero and Bionic Fuel to drop, but didn't have time to test it. Hopefully I like the gameplay style as I've really been looking forward to a shield bunny/infinite run build.
@Antonin1738
2 ай бұрын
Im currently working on shield bunny + bionic fuel for farming, but I only have normal bunny. Also still trying to farm some shield Externals
@danielgalvez8577
2 ай бұрын
@@Antonin1738this is coming from someone who has a shield bunny at hard mode don’t do it i’m at 9k shield with BF and I still get one shotted it’s still very usable but hard mode infiltrations are sometimes a pain and require health over shield especially elemental enemies but this is just my opinion if you want to do it go ahead i’m just giving you a heads up
@LucasCrow-uk8dw
2 ай бұрын
I have a really solid full catalyst bionic fuel build and its versatile because I can run a high voltage build without issues.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Sure, what content are you doing with Bionic Fuel that makes it better/quicker than an MP setup?
@nox8521
2 ай бұрын
Damn I didn’t know you are built like ajax irl , love to see a fellow gamer who is taking care of himself, kinda inspiring for me cuz i am working out since two years and couldn’t drop my addiction of gaming but am balancing things out you are an absolute unit
@Shea_J
2 ай бұрын
Bro is absolutely yotted
@azlan3432
2 ай бұрын
Would you be able to a video on gun moding for dps? Seems like the debate isn't settled on whether to run elemental dmg on your weapon or just go for damage multipliers such as weakpoint and crit etc Also should we be running extending magazine mods?
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Maybe one day. I have a lot of other things I want to focus on first. Personally, I leave my weapons with free Catalyst slots so I can chop and change elemental damage. My understanding is "very weak" is a 2.5x multiplier, so if we multiply the 30% by that, those modules are effectively "Add [element] ATK equal to 75% of firearm ATK". That seems strong to me, but I'm able to be convinced otherwise. I do not know if that ATK bonus is literally just 75% extra damage, or if that element attack cannot crit/weakpoint or whatever.
@kungfudavie
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei i would rather run 200% crit damage than an additional 20k of electric damage for example.
@davailama1808
2 ай бұрын
Elemental damage mods give u another source of damage which scales with your crit. Just build both? on a 20% crit weapon with the blue crit rate mod + a crit roll on your weapon you can get around 30%. Also firearm attack is additive to each other so don't build too much of it if your gun has over 1x weak point damage it is worth to upgrade that. magazine mods are mostly personal pref and dependant on weapon.
@orthrusthetoad
2 ай бұрын
I use this module specifically fir he echo swamp and general resource builds, infinite sprint and HP collector.
@ghostlopez3463
2 ай бұрын
Can u show your build? I would def aprecaite it! I love how long u can run without with max speed without bionic fuel u definitely changed my mind on it
@hadmos855
2 ай бұрын
You're trading damage when you build mana and skill cost modules. Yes without bionic it's more tics, but with bionic you go all damage and I haven't met mobs that don't die with 1 tic
@hadmos855
2 ай бұрын
That said I'll try high voltage for mobs per your suggestion and time my dungeons
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
Exactly I don’t even have shield collector yet. I’m running a straight set of supernova so I have two shield two Mac shield pieces and I run shield in the slot. I would put shield collector if I could just get lucky and and get that damn thing through combining and run around the fuel bunny nonstop, I literally carry almost every single infiltration operation. Everybody is rushing to keep up with me and everything is dead by the time they run through and I don’t have to worry about skill cost reduction or or any of the other shit you need on a not buying fuel bunny, I have a Three and the damage is massive. I have to admit that I probably will tone down the damage and put dangerous ambush on and try to beef up bunnies shield a little bigger because without that shield it’s it’s not that big only needs to be around 5K so I’m gonna change stuff around and I’ll probably lose some damage, but there’s nothing better than turning on speed not worrying about it and running and just setting off lightning emissions. Every time it comes you know the duration runs out. Just set it off again over and over again I don’t care what anybody says for mobbing bionic fuel bunny is a no-brainer. It’s just easier doesn’t matter if you’re 20% slower, doesn’t you’re still running faster than everybody else except another bunny running high voltage but that bunny is constantly wearing about MP having to make sure they pick up every single MP orb because if not, they will run out especially when I’m killing everything they miss and they’re not getting there too Two second HP boost every you know, I mean getting an AP boost every two seconds I’m sorry MP boost every two seconds solo content certainly high voltage bunny can be set up with cost production and all that nonsense and last a long time although again, they are in drain at twice the rate that MP collector is gathering it they are constantly in need of MP orbs to keep running or fuel bunny is totally oblivious to that shit still killing and killing everything on the screen instead of just three things as it passes through an area fuel waste to everything that it can seebut yes, it’s running a little slower than high voltage bunny
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
To be fair, nobody should be running bunny in classes fights. There are at least half a dozen characters that are better at fighting bosses bunny is not a boss sighting character, even with high voltage only a small minority of players have their bunny so well developed that they can use in a boss fight Solo can go in and kill the boss in under 20 seconds with high voltage but in a match made person team the scaling is such that bunny is going to run out of steam and then the only thing available to be doing any kind of damage is Gramp all things to recharge Even when the ad you kill everything in a couple of seconds and you get maybe one recharge out of it like 9% once or whatever MP collector is honestly shouldn’t have any MP collector on a boss bunny build should be all about literally everything in it no duration no skill cost reduction just go in massive damage with Chris Your bunny should be looking to get the job done before she runs out of steam boss or just leave her at home and bring anybody else and leave Bonnie to what she does which is almost anvil bunny does good at mopping. You don’t have to have a clue what you’re doing push use recommendedmore than sufficient if you have bionic fuel, collector bunny is a beast, and the developers did well with automatically configuring her. She meant to be your go to character gameplay except bossing.
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
I don’t care how much configuration you do the several mods you have to put on to make bunny run first of all you don’t get infinite lights speed, except with bionic fuel. Secondly, any of the content you mention can easily be run with permanent up time on lightspeed killing everything in one pass with bionic fuel bunny you’re making up issues that don’t exist. Those are the things bunny does easily Bionic bunny makes it even easier. I don’t even have shield collector and I grind all the shit you’re talking about I just ground out hard mode. I did on solo because I didn’t wanna wait for other players to be catching up nonstop or slow me down or causing it to scale and10 boats grinding, killing everything in a hard mode infiltration operation. I’m Bonnick fuel bunny, shield collector no problem at all.
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
Why because I can figure my bionic feel bunny, ignoring skill cost reduction ignoring how much MP I have I don’t care how much MP infective I wanted to I could use MP conversion to give more of that MP to my shields. I just need enough MP to activate lightning emission every once in a while that’s all I need. I don’t need any HP I don’t need any MP I don’t need any skill cost. I do need duration to make sure that my up time on lightning emission is 100percent, but it allows me to have way more damage when I leave up in the air. The orbs are gone by the time I land the bosses dead generally because it’s a couple times in that mid air maneuvering move to jump up hit the orbs and come back down Reanding out reactors, for instance, reactor bosses simplicity, I mean certainly some of the tougher ones the wide open ones that one in that stupid cave on echo swamp he’s a pain in the ass, but you just lure them outside where you can use bunnies speed, and abilities to move around and again I’m doing this without shield collector so my shield is gone. It’s gone and I die Yet I managed to complete all this stuff with bunny without any recharge going on without worrying about any minimal duration just enough to get I mean, I forget what duration I have on but my lightning commission is up all the time and it actually lasts a long time. I’m like 20 seconds or something, like it literally like seven seconds or something but by the time my brain notices it’s not happening and I push the button it’s back up so I don’t have technically 100% up time but my reaction time is not but I have massive damage lines plus rate mod and a damage mod Not sure I don’t remember what else is on there argument only if you’re talking about boss killing I have not and would not probably take my bionic fuel bunny into a boss like four or five Killick bunny like emergency measures plus skill, skill, concentration front lines, and I’m not really sure what else dangerous ambush as much damage as you can for boss killing bunny with no concern for skill cost or skill duration reallyand even piling on on your reactor light damage and boss damage, your goal is to get that dead before you run out of steam you run out of steam. It becomes a struggle.
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
Fuel is always superior to reduce them the cost and MP collector always because even with those there will be times you will run out of MP and buy fuel bunny. Will just go racing past you to the next fight while you’re waiting for your MP recharge or ironically, you’re waiting for that bionic bunny to kill something, that drops an MP or for you as it runs ahead of you till the next flight
@Hakei
Ай бұрын
🤡
@MSusername69
2 ай бұрын
6:52 you are not JUST switching out a module. You are investing in another module if you don't already have it. In a vacuum if you already have both builds then yes, what you said makes sense, but if you don't, is it worth it to farm up everything?
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
"Everything" is a module you already have that you need to spend a bit of gold and Kuiper on.
@MSusername69
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei Yes, but spending gold and kuiper implies you already have all the modules. If you are starting from zero then yea farming for the MP build would be better, but what if you are in the middle? you have bits and pieces of both builds or you somehow have bionic fuel but not MP collector. Is it not just better to use invest in the one you already have? or at least go into the build that is easier to farm up. It took me a few hours to farm MP collector, but what if I didn't have it and just HAPPEN to get bionic fuel from a very lucky drop. Like in your Gley example, is it worth it to put in the work to get a module I currently don't have. This is a what if example for the unfortunate people that might already have bionic fuel but not MP collector, or already lean towards the bionic build with the stuff they already have.
@FUELEDBYREDBULL
2 ай бұрын
Isn't there a build where Lightning emission is spammed that uses bionic trans mod, a dude killed frost walker in 7 sec with that setup.
@Antonin1738
2 ай бұрын
do you have a link?
@Hashshashiyin
2 ай бұрын
wouldnt you run hp collector with it?
@zaixey
2 ай бұрын
hp collector isnt enough for sustainability
@pushamangaming9955
2 ай бұрын
Good vid! You also said you didn't want to start anything, but in turn say the other content creator name incorrectly which seems sketch. For me, I use BF because I had a hard time sustaining my MP. When I switched, she felt much much better and it took less investment for me to be able to reach this same effectiveness. Good points in this vid that will make me reevaluate my Bunny.
@staunchvegan
2 ай бұрын
Reading way too much into it my dude. My brain confused SolidFPS with EliteFTS, which is a gym equipment company ran by Mike Israetel, a huge lifter on KZitem.
@flaschHD
2 ай бұрын
4:40 i am dying of laughter, thats the best argument ever when I get bionicfuel i am still gonna try it, just for fun to change up the pace. (also works well with the shield from supernova)
@darkktint5974
2 ай бұрын
I don't have ultimate bunny so this mod is good enough for me.
@HawtDaawwgg
2 ай бұрын
Anyone that runs bionic fuel and not going shields is just griefing themselves tbh.
@tradige2305
2 ай бұрын
bro said shields
@lexatie
2 ай бұрын
Not everyone has a skill issue like you I do just fine
@zaixey
2 ай бұрын
@@lexatie lmao this game requires no skill aside from aiming. Enemies have insane tracking and how do you manage that with skill? You don’t aside from covering or slotting def hp modules.
@lexatie
2 ай бұрын
@@zaixey I don’t die when I use bionic fuel. If your dying while using that you are doing something wrong or it’s not for you hence a skill issue
@HawtDaawwgg
2 ай бұрын
@@tradige2305 everyone shits on shield, yet everyone runs around with less then 7k hp because everyone runs sets and have shit base hp, running around with 3k shields is fine for farming, sure shields could do with a buff but it still has use cases, and bionic fuel is one of them (kyle enzo and ajax with his mod).
@Antonin1738
2 ай бұрын
Finally got this module and maxed it right away :(
@MatjeBalovich
2 ай бұрын
I've already put 10 catalysts on ult Bunny trying to find a way to fit all the builds I want in one character. And yeah I'll have to agree bionic fuel turned out to be a huge dissapointment, I hope devs buff this mod because right now it's outclassed by almost every other red mod.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't think it's possible to get all builds going. I hope polarity is changed - if they're steadfast on this, I'll be maxing normal Bunny as well.
@MatjeBalovich
2 ай бұрын
Bionic fuel is good only because it allows you to fit multiple "endgame" builds in one character - one being the 4 crit mod high-voltage bossing build and the other one is 300% range mobbing build. But I kinda stopped running Bunny for bosses after I fully built my Gley and Lepic, so I guess I'll add 2 catalysts to just make Bunny fully focused on mobbing and because of that bionic fuel becomes useless to me.
@Rich_Rulez
2 ай бұрын
I would love to see this 50 sec run with bunny build.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
You can do this yourself: make sure you have an MP external component equipped and run double cost reduction.
@k4567224
2 ай бұрын
Depends on situation, with this mod, u lose some speed and eletric charge gain for consistancy. === Having problem in MP sustain Jumping in same place to farm that void shard (yeah, u know which one) Mobbing with Group (MP collector wont work if there is no enemy for u to kill) --- Farming low HP enemy Glass Cannon Build ===
@Nermalion
2 ай бұрын
the jumping thing doesnt lack MP tho, only special meter and you can use potent colector for that
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
You don't need MP for the jump farm in Bunny Cave, so why would you run this? Which mission are you running on Bunny where there are no enemies for you to kill because they're all dead, plus they're not dropping MP modules, plus you need to travel X distance?
@k4567224
2 ай бұрын
Also, i found it hard to try to hear whole 7:30 video without a subtitle that conclude your current perspective. We need to know what is important in a segment, and you can segment it with timestamp and give it a name in youtube, by typing the timestamp in description
@k4567224
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei The eletric gain without 2, can't sustain the eletric cost for 3 on max cap
@k4567224
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei Mobbing with `Group` aka, your other Bunny teammates
@92BelluS
2 ай бұрын
Are you going to show your bunny build Hakei?
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
It changes so much depending on what I'm doing, and I'm not fully Catalyzed because I change in and out so much. It's really not much of a secret. I run double range, cooldown, duration, damage, that type of thing. Until multiple polarities are possible, I won't commit either way on Bunny.
@iamnotxj9
2 ай бұрын
@@HakeiDo you like crit or do you think damage is better?
@jameselrick6698
2 ай бұрын
@@iamnotxj9I personally believe for skill crit, that you should only go for it if you’re running high voltage on bunny as it prices a higher crit chance per 3 single targets. Allowing for extremely high dmg on bosses and heavy hp enemies.
@Firas_679
2 ай бұрын
i still have bad dreams after spending 5m to fully upgrade it 😢 bro u'r always 1shot explosive barrel a lucky enemy shot and you're dead
@zaixey
2 ай бұрын
THIS! I don’t get why people run it and continue to be delusional saying that BF is better than every other build for mobbing when you can achieve BETTER results with a mp sustaining build. BF enjoyers are implying that it’s a skill issue if you die when enemies have insane tracking which you can’t dodge with SKILL.
@snivey588
2 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn’t bring up ult lepic for bossing, he can >10s all of them with minimal catalyst investment. Very f2p friendly
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
No, you don’t and you don’t need the extra movement speed. In fact you would be better off running super conductor if you don’t if you’re mobbing that way anything that doesn’t die has reduced damage for everybody either way I would just run nothing rather than high voltage for it, I would run the same modules, probably almost exactly the same build just takeoff high voltage and mob. If you don’t wanna run bionic fuel, bunny, MP collector, and the rest of the same, you would run with high voltage and then just put high voltage on your boss has to be bare bones no no reductions no no nothing straight up damage just every damage bit you can pile on for bossing, you gotta worry about cool and regeneration and by the way dangerous ambush seems to be pretty much cracking all the time regardless of whether you’re being targeted or not Moxie demonstrated in solo while he’s definitely getting targeted. He’s still getting dangerous ambush pretty much all the time so I don’t know if it’s bugged or understanding of what it means to be. Targeted doesn’t match the guys I have a feeling it’s just bugged, but It’s fairly large damage that you probably can trade out some credit for dangerous ambush annual benefit all the time from it even when you don’t quit obviously right now it seems like it’s every single time. I think he said it’s like a 28% damage boost when it when you do all the math so
@Hakei
Ай бұрын
🤡
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
Well, the only thing you really need to know about bionic fuel is you can become invincible and run forever. You’re still one shotting every mob that you’re come in contact with so there are no downsides, but you do need chill collector and there’s absolutely no circumstance under which electric condenser makes sense there are only two mods for bunny really I mean super conductor if you don’t have anything else that’s a decent mob for for if you’re going into a boss, you are at least benefiting the team when you’re light lightning emission is going off your buffing the boss both with electrocution, and with a 20% outgoing damage deep off on the boss in lieu of high voltage and/or phonic fuel super conductors a good mod electric condenser is horseshit as it drastically slows your charge I mean drastically so let’s say you’re doing reactor I mean, outpost and you’re diddling around and let your charge go away. It’s already kind of a pain in the ass with Bonnie because if you don’t keep moving she loses her electricity, and you can’t pop off your, lightning mission until you recharge some and electric condenser means you just recharge slower and voltages totally unnecessary arrangement because there’s nothing in an outpost that you can’t kill pretty easily with a regular bunny with you recommended I mean you don’t even have to know what you’re doing this use recommended after putting an energy activator on and regular bunny will do just fine and that scenario, but she still has to charge up to activate use energy speed so you have to charge up a bit activate lightning emissions and if you’re charging up slower because of electric condenser, that’s just not very efficient I had I couldn’t figure out any use case scenario for that mod except where you wanted to run a lot of shields and very tank on Bonnie but the problem is you still run out of your light speed is done and then your shield charge goes. I don’t think it happens unless you’re in light speed I’m not sure been a while since I looked at that but there’s really only two cases and that’s bionic fuel and high voltage, unless you don’t have them
@Hakei
Ай бұрын
🤡
@heirelentiya6518
2 ай бұрын
Let me preface this as, I agree with you that bionic fuel isnt as good as just building around skill cost and MP collector, thats also what Im using right now. However, let me also say that in my opinion this video is almost entirely unnecessary because it's just a different build. Maybe I'm ignorant to many people on the internet claiming bionic fuel is the be all end all bunny build or this or that, but from my experience people understand it's just another effective farming build. It definitely. definitely doesn't suck because it's quite literally just another build that does the same thing with 100% consistency and it has some merits to me. I think delivering the data on the speed testing comparison is important, but that could've been done without effectively shitting on a cool unique build and name dropping some other people. Please keep making great content though, I enjoy your stuff this is just my feedback as some random dude on the internet
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Bunny running zero modules is "just another build". If I pitched this idea to you, you'd say "Well, why not run a cooldown module, or a skill range module?", and if I asked why I'd do that, you'd say "Because it will make the build better", to which I'd say "How does it make the build better?", to which you'd say "you'll clear content X and Y faster". Extrapolate that argument to what I'm saying about Bionic Fuel. No one has yet mentioned a situation where it's better than the MP-based version. You say it has some merits: what are those merits?
@heirelentiya6518
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei The difference is that running a full build versus running no modules is a distinctively massive difference, and wouldn't be capable of accomplishing the same thing. Whereas bionic fuel effectively accomplishes the same thing. The difference would be the % speed at which you kill faster, which is not solely determined by running 15% faster especially considering everything gets 1 tapped. You have to find the average rate at which that 15% faster tick rate from covering 15% more distance from running 15% faster overlaps with exactly when mobs would spawn to instakill them on an interval in which bionic fuel would miss because of its slower speed.
@drdickenbalz
2 ай бұрын
@@heirelentiya6518 What part of you run 15% slower don't you understand? You realize most missions you have to get to a certain place and by getting there 15% slower you're ending up wasting that much more time?
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
Your complaining about Bonnick feels slowing you down by 20% but then you’re gonna run electric condenser which also slows you down considerably I mean noticeably you really do notice it electric condenser charge a shield so aren’t you going to have to completely shift your build do a shield build anyway, which is what bionic fuel is I mean to be fair I hadn’t thought of this while I hadn’t thought of it because it has the same problems as any other Bunnyville except fuel i.e. MP management but yes it is keep your shield charged and electric condenser shield but slows down less electricity while you’re runningI tried it a long time ago was like one of the first bunny, transcendent mods I got, and I immediately took it off because it was horseshit
@Hakei
Ай бұрын
🤡
@Go2stateHeavywieght
2 ай бұрын
You didn’t even mention the most obvious reason bionic fuel sucks for bunny too! It takes away a % of your hp so it doesn’t matter if you stack a lot of hp or not bionic fuel will suck all your hp and leave you at 10% all the time. Nothing will recover enough hp to circumvent this including hp collector….
@WantSomeDinhSum
2 ай бұрын
I only use Bionic Fuel in the bunny cave so I can just afk jump in the corner lol. I’m not a fan of biotic fuel because she generates electricity much slower
@BoredAndBrowsing
2 ай бұрын
Wouldn't using potent collector work too? Since it gives you electricity back without you having to use your number 2 skill. And I'm not sure if it's illegal, but you think using a mouse clicker will get you banned? Like, I'd set jump and her 3rd skill to mouse buttons and auto click to afk bunny cave.
@WantSomeDinhSum
2 ай бұрын
@@BoredAndBrowsing I’m not smart enough to figure out how a mouse clicker works. But I just use two fingers. One for space, and one for V and just spam while watching shows lmao
@Go2stateHeavywieght
2 ай бұрын
Yes! This nod is horrible and everyone wants it lmao … until they get it and realize it sucks 😂
@bradleyvision7315
2 ай бұрын
this dudes "bionic fuel" is a bottle of tren 💀
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Natty + Vegan
@kungfudavie
2 ай бұрын
I really like eliteFPS though he is a good streamer. Difficult to find though on twitch
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Like I said, I'm not interested in "This guy's build is bad, he's evil, he sucks!", I think if anyone can have improvements made to what they're doing, they should be receptive to that, and it doesn't need to be handled in a negative fashion by the party making the suggestion.
@TormentedThree
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei It depends. There's no reason someone should be receptive to unsolicited advice. Even if the unsolicited advice is said in a respectful way, it can still be seen as obnoxious to people that prefer to figure things out on their own, or only want advice when they ask for it. IF someone asks, that's a different story.
@kungfudavie
2 ай бұрын
@@TormentedThree there is a streamer called solidDPS and he has some really good quality videos for min maxing and matching out weapon damage etc. his builds have been game changing for me. He has been great
@lexatie
2 ай бұрын
Bionic fuel is a mod for skilled players only some people do bad with it an some people do great with it it’s all about preference.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Again: find a single piece of content in The First Descendant where a Bionic Fuel setup is better than an MP-based alternative.
@lexatie
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei I mean I don’t have to because I prefer bionic fuel over a mp set up I can do wave 21 any defense perfectly fine etc but I wouldn’t use it in a boss fight. It’s good if you know how to play with it which everyone does not know how to. Like I simply said it’s a skill issue.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Okay, but WHY do you prefer Bionic Fuel is my point.
@lexatie
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei I just like it for the infinite sprint tbh. I know it has its downsides but I just been using for so long that I’m just used to it. But I never have a problem like other people say they do.
@BoredAndBrowsing
2 ай бұрын
@lexatie4122 so then it's not a skill issue and more of a preference. A skilled player would use BiS, and bionic fuel ain't that. If you prefer it, that's fine, but like the OP said, and I would agree with the insinuation, that you wouldn't be able to make or find a video where bionic fuel is better than an mp build. It's a preference build, that's all.
@JarredHumphries-vh3ps
2 ай бұрын
I use high voltage everywhere. Do not even need the 1.5m damage its just fun. MP collector seems great but dungeons are not long enough and you will need to stop in nearly all of them anyway. This game has not decided its meta as of yet and who knows it may never will. I do not see this game lasting and I can also see people blaming it on the "sexy" character models. It just proves that a game can be bad and use unreal engine and still be fun. This game lacks interesting content and does not reward effort. Does not matter how good you are because RNG will decide if you get to progress.
@JarredHumphries-vh3ps
2 ай бұрын
Plus another thing about MP collector is that you are better of having bonus MP and MP revive in combat/out of combat as this works better because it does not need an enemy kill.
@zebresel
2 ай бұрын
I run it because I'm lazy. I don't want to manage my resources or roll all the time. Interesting video though 👍
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Name a piece of content where I'd lose any non-trivial amount of time fishing for blue MP orbs where Bionic Fuel would be the superior pickup.
@Surfer_Dude858
2 ай бұрын
High voltage ⚡️ the best mod
@hadmos855
2 ай бұрын
Idk man infinite sprinting QoL in dungeons is hard to beat
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
What dungeon are you infinitely sprinting in that I cannot infinitely sprint faster in with an MP build?
@hadmos855
2 ай бұрын
@@HakeiI rebuilt my bunny for high voltage and Mp collector and have to say you're right. The only downside is having to reactivate the sprint a couple of times
@Osmosis909
Ай бұрын
I just maxed the module out before I watched this video, now I have instant regret lol what a waste of resources :p
@billy_cross
2 ай бұрын
Everyone cares to prove you wrong or go to the workout convincing you how do people really give a shit run? What you wanna run?
@giotto_4503
2 ай бұрын
1:49 Duh, why would you want to use it over HV for single target anyways? Like everything in the game, you can specialize builds for specific content. Bionic fuel if build correctly can sustain huge aoe for defense or anything that requires you to hold a point for a specific time and where speed does not matter. Now I'm not saying that it's better than the MP variant, It's just slightly better because it allows you to sustain AOE 24/7. Where in the MP variant, I find myself sometimes not being able to sustain my MP because either the enemy spawn is staggered and has long delay between each spawn or the MP collector fucking you up because it's rng based. I'd also rather have a permanent 30% speed boost than a 50% speed boost from time to time. Now the importance of this mod isn't as evident right now because of the content we currently have in the game are mostly just zoom through this, kill that, done. And Most defense oriented missions are half assed and are lackluster. If in the future they release missions like those in Warframe (Excavation, Disruption, MD, etc.) then we'll see modules like this shine.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
> It's just slightly better because it allows you to sustain AOE 24/7 Again: rolling is strictly better than Biofuel, so regardless of these niche situations where you think MP recovery will lose out to RNG - you're better off rolling anyway.
@giotto_4503
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei Rolling may net you a higher DPS sure, but rolling alone will not sustain your skills though. And what's preventing you from rolling with BF?
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Rolling absolutely will sustain, since you travel more than you do sprinting, since it's quicker. Nothing's preventing you from rolling with Biofuel, but why are you running Biofuel at all? The benefit is that you get infinite sprint but pay life: the sprint becomes useless, so you're paying life to...?
@giotto_4503
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei Rolling does indeed generate electricity (But not enough to sustain your skills) resource but is just way way slower than having your skill 2 active and just running, because you get more electricity resource if you have your skill 2 active (with BF that's on 24/7). Having full electricity meter also increase your overall damage and with BF that's full all the time.
@hadmos855
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakeiwasn't bunny rolling nerfed?
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
Dude, no friend and don’t think I don’t hear what you’re saying but if you’re mobbing if I mind mostly grinding for let’s say copper shards gold breaker code analyzer whatever at anticipated ambush, bionic fuel bunnies is the way to go. Bionic fuel doesn’t require people to grind out ultimate bunny. And honestly ultimate bunny isn’t really needed unless you have high voltage. And if you have both, it is entirely possible to build that you can just slap them slap a few things that can be catalyze to go either way, and you can run one for mopping and one for Boston although I honestly wouldn’t boss with bunny anyway, she’s quite annoying and useless at bossing unless you’re following bosses don’t fucking bring money to a boss like you’re a fucking annoying what you do you get the boss turning around all in circles so nobody can hit wheat point consistently because you’re pretty bopping around all overdrawn attention I would use high voltage by fuel bunny is running infiltration operation because many things in those and one shot bionic feel funny pretty easily that least the witch is when you run into those little suicide primary things you in the open world but in the open world mostly there’s no worry about dying there’s no restriction even when you’re doing a mission that might have them it doesn’t matter you’re not doing it for the mission video overworld you’re just grinding the loot that drop
@TheSinOfHeart
2 ай бұрын
heres the thing, u coulda just deleted the whole video except the comparison of rolling vs bionic runing, and it would tell me everything lol i didnt know it was tht slow- HOWEVER, i have tried mp colector, and i am always out of mp, tht thing never procs enough- hence y i figure ill use bio fuel. but tht run comparison is making me think otherwise- but its pointless if mp colelctor never procs
@staunchvegan
2 ай бұрын
Use MP collector with reduced skill cost and you won’t run out of MP.
@zaixey
2 ай бұрын
HV main here, my main build has skill simplification and run mp collector. Whenever I run refinery unit, I can’t sustain my mp if I am below level 35 but this isnt the problem anymore if I am max level. As for like fortress outskirts, I run mp sustaining modules or (i didnt need components with max mp and recovery) without skill simp and HV and I NEVER run out of mana. I tried using BF and after getting destroyed by a Creature or a Red barrel I never used BF again. There’s no clear pros with bionic fuel you trade off speed and survivability for what?
@s8r4
2 ай бұрын
By not using it, you have to then slot at least 2 mods to help with mp sustainability, meaning you're losing 2 mods worth of damage, and if you have to sit there for longer clearing mobs, having that 15% more speed will not be helping you at all. Not to mention, either you decide to play with no transcended module at all, which just feels wrong, or you use the only other alternative high voltage, which is not good for mobbing in various scenarios. I'd say that if you compare highly optimised runs of certain content, non bio-fuel will most likely end up being slower in the vast majority of the cases, but I find it has some overall benefits, like you mentioned one being able to run around forever, another for me being able to go into bunny cave and just turn the sprint on and only have to press space to farm weapon xp never having to worry about anything else, it just makes certain parts of the game more mindless imo. One thing that's super annoying though is having to turn the sprint off every time you want to dismantle stuff lol. At the end of the day, being 15% more efficient is not really that important, just playing what you enjoy the most will end up making you play for at least 15% longer if not more. These kinds of games are more of a marathon than a sprint so if you burn out because of constantly worrying about efficiency, not playing for a day or two throws all the efficiency gains out the window.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
> another for me being able to go into bunny cave and just turn the sprint on and only have to press space to farm weapon xp You can use potent collector here.
@s8r4
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei Yeah but this requires you changing builds, so you'll have to swap a few mods for every specific scenario you find yourself it, whereas you can just use the same one otherwise. I guess that's kinda what I was getting at, it's just overall a relaxing build, not the best at anything but good enough at everything.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
You need one module, that's not changing builds...?
@s8r4
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei Elaborate, it's not clear what you're trying to say.
@delacroixii
2 ай бұрын
@@s8r4simply because, you can swap out your hp/mp collector with a potent collector. This is common knowledge.
@jlau317
2 ай бұрын
Are you playing poe?
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
Dude, a good bunny well-made bunny can kill devour solo in under 20 seconds good Enzo or clay or or anybody that shooting is their main thing can kill it in like 10 to 15 seconds solo mind you even with really good shooter devour can be burnt down in in less than a minute with a four player match team where it scales much you know higher health Shouldn’t be there at all. That’s not what she’s good at if you’re running bunny with super conductor or if you have one of those bunnies that can burn down a boss in in 20 seconds solo then she’s gonna be doing OK on a boss in matchmaking, I guarantee when you jump matchmaking on a bunnyteam like fuck bunny that’s a liability because after about 15 seconds your man runs out and useless. I just hope you’re taking a good enduring legacy or a good Gregs with you into these boss fights on your bunny because that’s what you’re going to end up using.
@Hakei
Ай бұрын
🤡
@JayTheTruth
2 ай бұрын
I agree for the most part, but think bionic fuel does have a place- and I like that. I don’t like the idea of one module to rule them all. I run bionic fuel in my resource farming in normal mode, as the enemy density is too low for me to reliably have 100% uptime on my sprint. I don’t think everything has to be the best all the time for it to be useful
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
What do you mean by resource farming? Do you think Bionic Fuel is better than an MP-based build for that activity?
@randomgreyalien4835
2 ай бұрын
Bionic fuel is only good for early game
@palegod
2 ай бұрын
Hard to judge what you're saying about Bionic Fuel without showing the build you use with it vs. the build you use for the ~50 sec sustain without it to see exactly what the tradeoff is. You make some interesting points, but even after watching the whole video my takeaway is still that the worst thing about Bionic Fuel at the moment is that it's affected by the Ultimate Bunny bug and High-Voltage/Superconductor is not.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
It'd be something like: Switching Walk the Tightrope with Maximize Conservation Switching HP collector with MP collector And if we really need to, switching the least damage adding mod with Selective Recovery OR Strong Mentality. I tend to only need Maximize Conservation and MP collector.
@palegod
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei I did some testing with the best setup I could fit given how all my slots are catalyzed (AAARRRXXCM). Ended up with: Skill Insight Skill Concentration Front Lines Max Range Skill Extension Singular Specialist Focus on Electric MP Collector HP Amp Max Conservation It's great for solo speedrunning dungeons, but it struggles badly anytime I go into a regular mission and don't set my game to private. If other people are getting kills, MP Collector just doesn't cut it, and the whole thing breaks down. Mobs just don't drop enough blue orbs to sustain it. This is where Bionic Fuel shines. The downside is Bionic Fuel really wants Shield Collector to go with it, and getting a 0.5%-ish combine makes farming Frost Walker for BF seem completely trivial by comparison. All that said, I will definitely keep using the non-BF version for solo dungeons and if I still did Kuiper Blockades with Bunny (since she's maxed out now there is no need) I'd use it there too since I had no trouble sustaining even if I had to run between the two nodes furthest apart.
@BENNYXXIX
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely disagree. Glass cannon bunny is fun as shit. Made my build my self hits for over 1.5M a Crit. Can’t die if you can’t get hit. 21meters is max which I’m at for pulse. Opinions are for everyone. 😊 if you’re talking about a boss build then that’s completely different. I don’t use bunny for bosses, she’s pretty much useless at that point, My ult lepic can kill any boss in seconds. So have him for that. Just my 2sense 😅
@BENNYXXIX
2 ай бұрын
Not a bunny main at all BTW. Only made her so that was can have a OP add clear for operations. And my build is not ULT bunny it’s regular. 👍🏻
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
What are you critting for 1.5M that, absent of Biofuel, you wouldn't be able to kill with the same crit?
@BENNYXXIX
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei It doesn’t matter it’s just the way some people enjoy playing, me included. I want to have unlimited sprint, in the long run I’m faster then any other bunny not running bio. And have close to the same dmg as a HV build. Really just comes down to how you want to play the game. I don’t see why making a video telling everyone bio is shit when it’s not, you just don’t like it. Which is fine but your whole title is something els. I can actually survive in boss fights as well just gotta know when to turn it on and off. Simple use of your brain and your chillin. No hate here this just my thoughts.
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
> I want to have unlimited sprint, in the long run I’m faster then any other bunny not running bio. You're not, though. This is very simple: name one piece of content that you need Biofuel for that I cannot run with an alternative MP build and be 15%~ quicker in. You'd have a point if MP recovery didn't exist, but it does.
@BENNYXXIX
2 ай бұрын
@@Hakei Lmao. Ok 👍🏻 You win. 0 point in continuing.
@billy_cross
2 ай бұрын
But I don’t think you understand funny first of all you should not be using speed of light to run around at bulk bunny abilities are more powerful when her energy is full so you start the energy. I mean you start the ball and run around, but you don’t wanna be doing it at the speed of light because that’s using the energy which is reducing her damage output. In fact using any other abilities besides, the pulse is not contraindicated When you’re just grinding away killing sure funny we should be doing it at regular sprint seat and yes, you should have say a thunder cage giving you 800 sprint speed that’s all the sprint you need. The reason the module is because they can use some energy to do things like if you need to leave or something With your mom, you can do so what are losing the damage? Your boss is doing I’m not really saying which way is better. I mean there are other way to get your man or whatever call grandma but that’s why they’re doing it and again you should not be running around at speed of light on funny pingbecause you’re hurting your damage
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡
@NoSleepClub-
2 ай бұрын
idk man i've been rocking bionic fuel for sometime just gotta pair it up with some shield mods good for speedruns and able to speed up kuiper mining with randoms
@Hakei
2 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video?
@laiden25
2 ай бұрын
Speedruns? Like trying to go as fast as you can with a mod that slows the character down?
@laiden25
2 ай бұрын
Speedruns? Like trying to go as fast as you can with a mod that slows the character down?
@SioRay
2 ай бұрын
Is bionic build the best ? Nop Is it one of the safest build + infinit running ? Absolutly 15k def 8k shield 200 hp bunny shield collector, i can sleep in every hard dungeons with max % I had a maxed mp collector and it was frustrating to not being able to run forever 🥲
@billy_cross
Ай бұрын
Fuel is always superior to reduce them the cost and MP collector always because even with those there will be times you will run out of MP and buy fuel bunny. Will just go racing past you to the next fight while you’re waiting for your MP recharge or ironically, you’re waiting for that bionic bunny to kill something, that drops an MP or for you as it runs ahead of you till the next flight
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