Damn, those slug throwers really be shooting the entire bullet with the shells, that's like, 100% more bullet per bullet!
@scientistmilorad9735
6 ай бұрын
Lmao maybe it's the bullet with the shell, inside another shell
@EnclaveSoldier2201
6 ай бұрын
Imperial blasters got nothing on your classic Appature brand slug thrower. And that's a fact.
@tnt_rebel2796
6 ай бұрын
“We fire the whole bullet, that’s 65 percent more bullet per bullet” Cave Johnson
@Bondrewd__21
6 ай бұрын
66%
@seawind930
6 ай бұрын
They use a magnetic accelerator instead of gunpowder to fire
@dominicfisher2395
6 ай бұрын
So then just use a gun and a blaster "OK now parry this you filthy wizard"
@CT-1975
6 ай бұрын
Well the problem with that is that the jedi can use tutaminis and absorb the kinetic energy of the bullets And then release......
@aaronbozack830
6 ай бұрын
@@CT-1975 If you left it for a one time hidden weapon you could get the upper edge.
@cyburn7856
6 ай бұрын
Honestly, this comment reminded me of that one post i saw of crudely drawn blaster pistol with 3 barrels and how at least 1 bolt always hit even if the other two were blocked by the light saber.
@ramenempire3430
6 ай бұрын
@@cyburn7856 I have that photo as my desktop screensaver, so I never forget that the Mandalorians may have been Jedi killing machines, but that they never had enough sense to create this type of weapon. Or maybe it is just b/c of plot armor reasons. Yeah... likely the latter.
@WildmanTrading
6 ай бұрын
@@cyburn7856Crossguard lightsaber
@ckelly2737
5 ай бұрын
“Metal rounds were not cheap” - proceeds to build a metal space station the size of a planet
@luzifershadres
5 ай бұрын
That litteraly crippled space ship production and is the entire reason for the Tie-Deffender never beeing produced on mass, even after proving that its beeing supperior to the X wing and every other rebel ship.
@arthurcallahan4735
Ай бұрын
size of a moon**
@williamthehuntsman
Ай бұрын
Let's do some quick math here for a second. Generation Tech figured out that the standard imperial credit is equal to the US dollar on a 1:1 ratio. Using that, we can figure that a standard capacity E-11 power pack (50 shots per pack), being roughly 25 credits will equal about 25 US dollars. That is only about 50 cents per shot. Now we look at a standard box of 5.56x45mm NATO (20 rounds a box) for the most common sporting rifle in the US, the AR15, we see the price can go for about 18-22 US dollars. Which is roughly around $1 a shot. As we see here, there is a near 50 cent difference in shot AND you receive more ammunition for less money when it comes to blasters. The death star however, was an abhorrent use of credits and resources that should've been scrapped the moment it reached palpatine's desk. I mean. It almost crashed the economy when Luke Skywalker destroyed it.
@daniellasfrogs
23 күн бұрын
😂
@iivin4233
12 күн бұрын
@@williamthehuntsmanA lot of issues here, the main one being that 1 credit can never equal 1 dollar. The value of currency depends on the products available that that currency can buy. Currencies cannot be compared 1 to 1 unless they exist in the same economy. So, for example, one carnival ticket might hypothetically be able to buy a $5 carnival prize. However, that doesn't mean the ticket is worth $5. The ticket can only buy what the carnival prize booth has to sell. You can't use it to buy a McDonalds fry Or, like, half a bottle of Fiji. So, in Star Wars 1 credit can be used to buy anything from any planet or moon or asteroid space mine in the entire Republic controlled galaxy. In other words, 1 earth USD can only buy from the goods, services and resources available on Earth. 1 galactic credit can buy from the goods, services and resources of a galaxy. That doesn't automatically mean bullets are better or worse than blasters bolts. But that is the basic, TL;DR version of the economic information we would need to decide between the two. How available is, lead, brass and gun powder compared tibanna gas and canisters? That is the basic question Alliance and Imperial procurement boards ask themselves when they decide what to buy/make. If I had to steel man Star Wars' lore, I would probably argue that tibanna gas' best feature was actually its weight. Compressed gas is not particularly light on Earth, but maybe with some hand wavium we could make it lighter than lead, brass, powder (ignoring that bigger charges of gunpowder often come in bags and shells and are actually a cotton-like material or sometimes literal plastic). That means your troops won't have to carry L.P.B back up through gravity and atmospheres whenever they invade a planet. Let's also ignore the fact that you don't really have to "carry" most shells to the surface of planets. You can just... drop them and that basically accomplishes the same thing. But Steelman asks: Do they even have to carry the gas back up? Maybe troopers can just hotbox the planet they've invaded. They can use tubes and bags, or giant sheets high in the sky to collect their gas which they can just open their ammo cannisters to release. On planets of the right density, this will work. So, the Empire vacu-farts its ammo to and from planets. That's canon. You're welcome.
@driftsgardens9526
5 ай бұрын
Metal is expensive but let me build a massive fleet of ships over and over again
@Ilyas-ty6cy
5 ай бұрын
Well, to be fair if you can cut the budget by stopping the production of metal ammo industries, then it still quite a lot of budget saving. Something people often misunderstand is, creating mass produce ammo especially in war condition can be really and really expensive. Even beyond the the gun production it self. Because no ammo its mean your gun is useless.
@DS-wl5pk
5 ай бұрын
@@Ilyas-ty6cyit isn’t when you have things like tractor beams and other such technologies that make mining and refining things like metals (which I think we’d agree is easer then say mf kyber crystals… idk how to spell it) almost trivial. Mining metal is not harder the mining kyber crystals. Full stop. Second, private companies exist and would be doing there own thing. There is no shutting them down for budget reasons cause it isn’t the acting government body funding them. Outside of government funded facility, they’d have zero influence on whether guns were made or not, simply used by themselves. They wouldn’t make them, they’d buy them long before making them. Infrastructure is also a investment, why build a bunch of things yourself you will barely use? Guns are not more expensive the balusters, full stop that’s made up for story purposes
@Ilyas-ty6cy
5 ай бұрын
@@DS-wl5pk I think there's a missunderstanding here, kyber crystals is a mineral commonly used for lightsaber, not for blaster gun. yes, you can use kyber crystal as an energy source for blaster gun in the lore that use by Jedi in the legend, a powerful one also. But it would be too expensive for mass production blaster since Kyber crystal is quite rare material and only exist in a few planets. What blaster gun use as an energy source for projectile is a gas, not dense object. So blaster is a gun that shot hot dense gas that you can called plasma. The advantage is for using gas, you can recharge it much easier without wasting material for creating bullet casings for projectile individually, and without needed for you to carry plenty of it which is extra weight. The countaintment its also easier to be made and put a stock, than what you need to do for bullet casings stock. That why balster gun is actually much more cost effective than slug gun/firearm in starwars world. Edit: fix typo
@DS-wl5pk
5 ай бұрын
@@Ilyas-ty6cy sure but they also apparently used it in the death stars main gun and it’s used in the other super weapon from that movie we don’t really like, isn’t my point My point is that it’s a practice regularly done and the process of mining it isn’t the limiting factor. Metals are much more abundant and much much easier to work with and manipulate than the crystals AND the gas Making thing burn to make thing go fast in one direction is as simple as it gets. Rock go fast, no way in hell is that ever going to be more expensive then what it would take to manufacture and mass produce blasters. It may be LESS effective in general because of armor advancements to use traditional guns, but kinetic energy is a bitch and a human size target typically doesn’t have the mass and layers to absorb much shock. If you can’t penetrate then just crush or jostle who’s inside, now blasters in general are still more advantages but I could definitely picture small militias being armed with these much in the fashion of the Tusken raiders, no one is saying they’re weapons are weak by any means. And honestly… wouldn’t they also have so pretty efficient electro magnets/electronics/conductors? And at some point youre slinging mass so fast it starts to bridge the gap between bullet and explosive. Maybe there’s a deep lore explanation about how electronics work or something, but if you break it down via physics there’s no way mass throwing objects would necessarily be obsolete, at least on a ground scale. Given how much punishment ship shields can apparently take, seems it’s in within reality to say they could have small scale rail guns that could probably take out ships, or demolish flesh much like Bobas favorite rifle, although not in exactly the same way. From what I can remember not all armored ground vehicles are protected by shields either so they could very much second as anti-armor weapons in a lot of cases, with whatever it can’t hurt probably needing air support or heavy duty purpose munitions anyways, which you’d probably would have both of anyways. Again, in general blasters and such are overall more advantageous to the foot soldier as they have to carry less into battle, but not really so much so that you would entirely phase out the other types of weapons, they’d probably become more specialized. There is a emphasis on standardization and like I said I could see these be deployed along side duty purpose anti armor weapons and snipers or marksman There’s plenty more examples of how they could effectively be used, I don’t think they would be given to the average foot soldier, but they could definitely find use in the big armies
@foofoo3344
5 ай бұрын
It's literally because they had to focus on ship building that they also did not want to bother with making bullets. Ship + bullet cost much more then just the Ship.
@s.vickramnairduh5020
6 ай бұрын
"Armor Technology" *shows stormtrooper* Stormtrooper: *gets KTFO from flying rock by Ewok*
@lastswordfighter
6 ай бұрын
They were also killed by melee weapons and bows and arrows. The armor hand some resistance to blaster bolts, bullets, and other weapons but wasn't invincible.
@dantewilliams2757
6 ай бұрын
It helped dissipate the energy from blasters and was most effective vs those but it fell short against shear blunt trauma
@greatkhan7278
6 ай бұрын
@@lastswordfighterif it is resistant to a bullet it must be resistant to a small rock. That's just physics
@papapalps2415
6 ай бұрын
@@greatkhan7278 Your grasp of physics is hilarious if that's unironically how you think it works.
@deathbystraws15
6 ай бұрын
@papapalps2415 Regardless if small rocks being launched from sling shots and primitive bow and arrows are capable of taking down storm troopers en mass, bullets would be far more effective. Hell if anything it makes sense, why would the empire invest in armor defend against a highly phased out weapon? If blasters are the norm the the armor should be made to reflect that, why waste massive amounts of credits also making the armor bulletproof when slugs are as rare as lightsabers?
@MesonicPrism733
6 ай бұрын
Anikin should have brought his Desert Eagle when confronting Obi-Wan
@mycreativitymaster3295
6 ай бұрын
It reminds me of an animation I see about it on KZitem
@metalclawsteelheart
6 ай бұрын
"It's over anakin! I have the high ground!" "Your high ground is no match for me!" *BANG* *cough* "anakin what the fuck."
@doomguy6688
6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t mind seeing rebels use a 50bmg one some storm troopers
@jaxonrogers6394
6 ай бұрын
YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY CALIBER!!!
@iLoveBigKnockers
6 ай бұрын
@@jaxonrogers6394Don't try it
@AloysiusSandler
6 ай бұрын
When you think about it, slugthrowers should still be used, just as a last resort.
@lonewolf0712
6 ай бұрын
They could just have a backup pistol to deal with force users.
@AloysiusSandler
6 ай бұрын
@@lonewolf0712 Exactly.
@rapson158
6 ай бұрын
Low-Mid level Jedi would indeed suffer from normal guns
@jamesonthehills
6 ай бұрын
@@lonewolf0712while it is a good idea, you have to remember that force users were extremely rare and most people didnt know they existed. those that did only thought of jedi and sith as legends which may or may not even be true
@adamallen7070
6 ай бұрын
@@lonewolf0712You could live in the galaxy of Star Wars and I guarantee you the chances of seeing a Jedi in your lifetime let alone needing to shoot at one is minimal. They were considered myths even on the lower levels of Coruscant
@Bifstak
6 ай бұрын
Shotguns at close-mid range would be absolute kryptonite to an unprepared Jedi/Sith
@venom0825
6 ай бұрын
It really isn't. The force users has too many think they can do to deny that. From force jamming the gun, force barrier, to simply reacting faster then you ( there a force user so they most likely fill ) and cutting your hand off.
@dezalt
6 ай бұрын
Force block: exist
@Nerthos
6 ай бұрын
At close range shotguns barely have any spread. An automatic sawnoff firing birdshot though? It'll probably cause enough non-lethal damage to incapacitate the guy
@Longshot88
5 ай бұрын
@Nerthos or you could just use a cylinder choke and not use birdshot lol
@Nerthos
5 ай бұрын
@@Longshot88 My man, chokes reduce spread
@deltagc545
6 ай бұрын
Assassins and bounty hunters loved slugthrowers because of the various bullet types, plus they could be silenced, and could be impossible to tell from where it was shot from. Blasters could not be silenced and would immediately give away a persons position.
@Kkk-cc1iy
5 ай бұрын
Customization of the power of blaster shots was almost as equally as high.
@lt.branwulfram4794
5 ай бұрын
Clearly you have not heard of a Nightstinger sporting rifle, the only blaster with the silent property. The variant manufactured by Xerrol also shot invisible blaster bolts on top of being silent. The downside was that this wasn't exactly a high capacity blaster so you really have to pick your shots or get an Expanded Magazine and a power belt if you're feeling a tad bit trigger happy. It's THE perfect blaster for any assassin and my Clone Operative/Scout in Star Wars 5e has made good use of it and even modified it to the extent that it could be considered an anti-armour weapon as well as anti-personnel.
@commissarvarken7445
5 ай бұрын
@@lt.branwulfram4794Star Wars version of an M82A1
@payforwin6697
5 ай бұрын
@@lt.branwulfram4794 its THE ONLY
@JohnBell-Hood
5 ай бұрын
@lt.branwulfram4794 That's the exact problem, there are only some many of those models. Wheras with slug throwers or guns since they are real, there are countless versions that are suppressed or with virtually no recoil.
@Dumbassdog
6 ай бұрын
Using slug throwers in republic commando always remains awesome tho
@migueltoledo1884
6 ай бұрын
Hmm. An energy weapon that looks like a slug thrower? I didn’t think the lizards were that nostalgic.
@RandomGuy0400
6 ай бұрын
ACP array gun
@unfunnyducky
6 ай бұрын
@@migueltoledo1884Man why is every line in that game good
@L1LegoAnimations
6 ай бұрын
Except as Boss says when you first grab one of their shotguns, they're not slug throwers. They're still blasters. "An energy weapon made to look like an old fashioned slug thrower" were his exact words I think, plus a snarky bit about lizards being nostalgic.
@ulty1472
5 ай бұрын
Except there not slugthrowers
@WallNutBreaker524
6 ай бұрын
"Advancements in Armored Technology" Lando shooting a New Order Soldier with an Crossbow:
@tyr573
6 ай бұрын
Aint their armors cheaper than clone armor ? didn't msot of the armor budget go to the elites ?
@calebbarnhouse496
5 ай бұрын
Almost like blasters got phased in thousands of years ago, and since then no one uses slug throwers anymore no one makes use of that armor anymore
@rondaxen88
5 ай бұрын
You do realize it’s not a normal crossbow like what we think of crossbows
@Jupiter__001_
5 ай бұрын
@@calebbarnhouse496Then they would switch back to using slug-throwers, or rather they would mix them into their formations alongside the blasters. During the Napoleonic Wars, the British genuinely considered reintroducing longbow formations and halberds due to armour having more or less vanished from the battlefield. They only decided against it as the legal and cultural institutions which ensured a ready supply of recruits trained in the use of those had been allowed to fall away. Obviously, slug-throwers don't require upwards of a decade of training to pull 150-200lb draw weight with accuracy repeatedly.
@calebbarnhouse496
5 ай бұрын
@@Jupiter__001_ but they do require multi million credit factories, and then you need to be able to supply those guns with bullets, and even then, those small arms are now useless against vehicles, while blasters can defeat them when concentrated on
@TarsonTalon
5 ай бұрын
"Logistics win wars." It makes sense from a logistics perspective alone, as you don't have to transport several types of ammunition for your armies, just gas to refill cartridges.
@luzifershadres
5 ай бұрын
On top of that it also doesnt require minning, just suck that gas from an astroid. Also every blaster shoot is basicly a flame round and is much more effective against droids by melting there tech componands.
@thebighurt2495
23 күн бұрын
and the battery packs
@boofini1830
6 ай бұрын
Star wars don’t give me “metal bullets aren’t cheap” with a planet sized space station
@TheManofthecross
5 ай бұрын
and worlds that are naval yard singitures in terms of ship production have metal up the ass for days so it is very easy to make bullets cheep and transport them. just you need a fighting force that uses them offten enough and win countless battles (planetary mainly) to show all that the bullets should be brought back.
@michaelpettersson4919
5 ай бұрын
If they are mostly for civilian use you better have a local manufacturer or they will be expensive.
@imjustsaiyan7450
5 ай бұрын
If The Imperium in 40K can grub up enough rounds these part timers should have no bother.
@matthiuskoenig3378
5 ай бұрын
"cheap" is relative. why spend X on bullets when you could spend Y on blaster bolts when Y = X/2 or X/3 etc.
@matthiuskoenig3378
5 ай бұрын
@@TheManofthecross bullets are massive logistical burdons compared to blasters. its the biggest burdon on real life militaries. a single small ammo canister (the size of a 5 round magaziine for a slugthower)for a blaster holds hundreds of shots, this means its literally hundreds of times cheaper and easier to supply men in the field with ammunition if you give them blasters instead of slugthrowers.
@godemperorofmemekind4170
6 ай бұрын
Mass drivers tend to be effective though that’s technically a slug thrower, basically a rail gun which are even better then blasters
@Kkk-cc1iy
5 ай бұрын
Most slug throughers were technically a rail gun that's why they shoot case in all. Because that gets fired to.
@commissarvarken7445
5 ай бұрын
@@Kkk-cc1iythe concept of a case is irrelevant with a rail gun as the case is what holds the propellant for the projectile aka the bullet, so a rail gun round is a fin stabilized sabot style round moving at a stupid high velocity
@347Jimmy
5 ай бұрын
@@commissarvarken7445 yeah, I'm not getting why a railgun slug has any need for casing, it's just more slug
@godemperorofmemekind4170
5 ай бұрын
@@347Jimmy I don’t think a case would be needed, rail guns are usually propelled by galvanic (magnets) at stupidly high velocity making them far more powerful through sheer kinetic energy to the point of far exceeding a blaster bolt
@347Jimmy
5 ай бұрын
@@godemperorofmemekind4170 indeed, as the Commissar above pointed out, the concept of "casing" just doesn't apply properly to railguns
@legodoc1853
6 ай бұрын
Personal head cannon, the Jedi helped Ban them so that they couldn't be killed anymore Edit: 1k......wow. didn't anticipate this
@9.5.9.5
6 ай бұрын
What is a head cannon? A cannon that shoots heads?
@alejandroelluxray5298
6 ай бұрын
Like they couldn't be killed by anything else
@justalurker3489
5 ай бұрын
I think lightsabers are like ancient compared to blasters in Star Wars, like predating them by hundreds of years.
@Kkk-cc1iy
5 ай бұрын
Thousands technically @@justalurker3489
@archangel6676
5 ай бұрын
@@justalurker3489 I believe they in fact do, if I remember correctly (not sure if it's still CANON) the mandalorians introduced them to the republic.
@ezrabraman6437
6 ай бұрын
Ahh yes the advancements in armor technology that allow it to deflect bullets but not rocks or arrows thrown by Ewoks
@bionodroid547
5 ай бұрын
The Ewoks came in significant numbers. I’m sure if you had 10 slugthrowers firing at one stormtrooper, it would drop them, too.
@brianmead7556
5 ай бұрын
It was more like getting pinned down and being clobbered to death with rocks through the armor, and often soldiers, so they got overwhelmed, got their armor ripped off, and then got killed. The indigenous forces also often use traps to stun or immobilize opponents.
@lucasmcnutt3653
5 ай бұрын
AP Rounds also exsist.
@matthiuskoenig3378
5 ай бұрын
who says they still use those armours? slug throwers require extensive supply chains. once you break those they are very, very unlikely to comeback in numbers and thus no need to continue making armour to that level for standard troops.
@bradleyrutledge
5 ай бұрын
Ewoks are actually much stronger then their size would have you believe, they've sometimes been referred to as "Miniature Wookies"
@El_Hornio_II
6 ай бұрын
'Jedi can block lasers? Ok have fun with this _buckshot'_ Edit: the more people that reply to this comment the more similarities I start connecting between star wars fanboys and Warhammer fanboys Edit 2: I just wanted to make a bajur reference and now this comment is a fucking full blown pissing contest about how a jedi would actually fair against buckshot :
@ProjectTaker
6 ай бұрын
Incidentally. Shotgun-eqsue multi shot blasters do exist and they too are somewhat anti-Jedi weapons. The double barrel blaster on Boba Fett’s wrist is a small example
@venom0825
6 ай бұрын
From what I've seen. Buckshot round are just swated off the air in bulks with a light sabers swipe. Force push or barrier still works just fine too.
@seanstephenson8660
6 ай бұрын
A fellow Bajur fan
@aaronluisdelacruz4212
6 ай бұрын
@@venom0825 but doing something like that is extremely hard for an average jedi which is why such weapons are banned in the star wars universe.
@venom0825
6 ай бұрын
@aaronluisdelacruz4212 for a Padawan, yes. But not for a knight. It's actually pretty common. Don't know where you got the gun banned thing.
@GrandSupremeDaddyo
5 ай бұрын
Cheap and easy to build/maintain is always a reliable explanation for this sort of stuff. Throughout real military history it explains the prevalence of seemingly inferior equipment.
@beagle3247
5 ай бұрын
Really cool thing about lasers in sci fi that most people don't know is that the laser guns cause a whole lot of internal bleeding and organ failure with all the melting a hole through you so even though a limb shot would cauterize and be fine a chest or head shot would kill you instantly and you'd likely never stand a chance in any situation.
@chewyuanqiang
6 ай бұрын
The only good reason I can think of for blasters replacing slugs is logistics. Blasters can fire hundreds of shots by just loading portable power cells and gas cartridges. While slug throwers require tons of belts and magazines to fire the same amount. And ammo capacity logistics makes sense when you are going to different planets that don't always have the same bullets and you can only have so much storage space for your ships. (Edit: Oof! I'm genuinely sorry for every casualty in the small mini conflict that I inadvertently started below the replies. I realized too late that they already addressed the ammo capacity feature in the speech by the time I commented. At least in this case this comment can be more of an emphasis on what they said. I just to elaborate on the logistics since it was the most consistent thing and I thought as the safest thing to point out that I noticed as even the lowest capacities written for them were somewhat appreciable. So many other aspects of even famous iconic blasters I read about have been constantly, debated, retconned or rewritten by so many fans, writers, artists, and companies etc. So I just thought of what I was familiar with, the ammo capacity. To everyone I respect all the arguments or statements going even down below as long as all remain peaceful and civil and forgive me for anything I caused. Let's make peace on what brings us all together instead of what divides us.)
@phoenix211245
6 ай бұрын
Still, slugs should still have been the superior option for special forces and other specialized units. Add in things like smart bullets, which a space faring civilization should be eminently capable of producing, and ammo capacity of the weapon kind of becomes a moot point.
@CGHawkatoo
6 ай бұрын
That was literally explained in the video...
@Seth-Halo
6 ай бұрын
@@phoenix211245We can't say something should be capable of producing something when it comes to media. Technically, star wars should have entire factory worlds that produce an entire star destroyer in one day.
@Technoanima
6 ай бұрын
Having been involved in logistics for the last fifteen years, I can confirm that having 100x the ammunition for the same space is a huge sell.
@phoenix211245
6 ай бұрын
@@Technoanima Though, considering that blaster bolts travel at a subsonic speed well behind the worst sub silenced round, and pretty much every bullet is supersonic.... The inherent advantages skew the table far into the bullet category. You can re-use arrows, but no one would suggest arming their military with bows.
@Andy_val
6 ай бұрын
"Advancements in armour technology" *mental flashback to when an entire legion of elite stormtroopers were killed by a tribe of 3ft teddy bears with sticks and rocks*
@papapalps2415
6 ай бұрын
So have you just never watched ROTJ then, or...?
@carbonwolf3865
5 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415breh, where do you think the meme came from?
@papapalps2415
5 ай бұрын
@@carbonwolf3865 Like I said; so have you just never watched ROTJ, then, or...?
@luzifershadres
5 ай бұрын
I mean, irl we also armoured down after the invention of the gun. In star wars it wouldnt be a suprise, if the lack of enemys using slug throwers caused evryone to stop using heavy armor.
@CWCvilleCop
5 ай бұрын
This meme never fails to make me laugh, but when you watch closely, it's more a matter of the stormtroopers just getting overwhelmed and bombarded with sticks and rocks, or otherwise caught up in traps. They're rarely ever killed by the sticks and rocks, but it's not hard to get completely overwhelmed and knocked out of action by a dozen people suddenly throwing rocks and debris at you, despite what armor you're wearing. Also, one good hit from a sling and it can be lights out. Though these scenes are undeniably goofy since it's a bunch of screeching teddy bears who look hardly coordinated enough to even throw a rock.
@quinnhasse9170
6 ай бұрын
i remember that in a star wars comic: slug throwers used sharpened scrap metal as ammo- it was a wild planet inhabited by scrappers
@kdb678able
5 ай бұрын
You can make shotgun rounds out of all kinds of household objects (like a stack of pennies). Taofledermaus on KZitem tests all kinds of crazy nonsense rounds. Better still, if you have a blunderbuss, black powder, and a handful of gravel, you have a "good enough" weapon system. Sounds like the slugthrowers were of that breed.
@travisrolison9646
5 ай бұрын
@@kdb678ableeh id still say anything with modern powder is miles ahead of black powder. Much higher pressure and velocity can be had and much more power. As you said you can put a lot of stuff into a shotgun shell anf having a tube or magazine to hold a bunch is always good
@kdb678able
5 ай бұрын
@travisrolison9646 you're right, of course. Assuming you can sort out a way to package smokeless powder. The upside of the blunderbuss is no cartridges/hulls, no percussion caps or primers. I don't own any black powder firearms, but then I can just go buy ammunition.
@iivin4233
12 күн бұрын
Star Wars has this habit of trying too hard and not hard enough at the same time. The writer thought to write in guys hand sharpening slugs when you can melt lead over a stove or a hot campfire. I suggest we set the standard for lore at, is it better than what someone in the 1400s could do? If not, then the lore fails the test. It's funny how often Star Wars fails this test.
@kry0-c00per2
6 ай бұрын
If Bobafet can smash a stormtroopers plastic armor with a club, a bullets can absolutely kill anyone who's wearing plastoid. The current armor in SW Galaxy is ment for energy disbursement across the surface of the plastic. But the logistics of weigh and ammunition capacity alone is enough to logical deploy energy weapons in combat. P.s. energy weapons need more maintenance so supply lines NEED far more up keep and resources.
@papapalps2415
6 ай бұрын
This isn't a thing, no, nor do blasters need more upkeep.
@kry0-c00per2
6 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 Yeah you clearly haven't seen "The book of boda" nore "Rouge one" which are clear examples of plastoid breaking and you clearly haven't looked into the expanded Canon of the starwars univers. Read the Timothy Zahn novels and more, you fool. Your not a die hard SW fan.
@rondaxen88
5 ай бұрын
Ok then why aren’t slugthrowers used by everyone then? Jfc
@kry0-c00per2
5 ай бұрын
@@rondaxen88 do you read? Having 500 rounds of gas ammunition is much better than a 30 round mag of 5.56 or 7.62... play Sw games, read the books, and shoot real gun. Then get back to me. Shits heavy.
@Roberta-yf4ge
5 ай бұрын
@@rondaxen88because slow bright lazers that mildly burn people unless they are hit in the chest are much cooler clearly.
@EmperorNapoleon1815
5 ай бұрын
Blasters: *are invented* Danny DeVito: “So anyway, I started blasting.”
@liamodahl1205
6 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the time an imperial officer hurled a spear at an armored Stormtrooper cadet to prove how good the armor was. The spear barely scratched the plating. MEANWHILE IN THE BOOK OF FUCKIN' BOBA FETT--
@Aereto
6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the Ewoks have to go up close and spear them with gaps in the armor or concuss them with blunt force using rocks and boulders
@selvbilde253
6 ай бұрын
@@Aereto Also to be fair, Ewoks are literally midget bear people with the strength to match
@Gunnar001
5 ай бұрын
Non canon EU wank.
@liamodahl1205
5 ай бұрын
@@Gunnar001 Disney Canon is far inferior, even WITH the EU's bullshit.
@stubbornspaceman7201
5 ай бұрын
@@Gunnar001Basic Star Wars downplayer
@ADAJ342
6 ай бұрын
So then, why doesn’t grievous carry guns? As a cyborg jedi killer it would be right up his ally. Not to mention characteristically unsubtle.
@UGNAvalon
6 ай бұрын
Quad-wielding Hand Cannons! xD
@laytonmalmstrom1661
5 ай бұрын
I mean two lightsabers and two blasters would be absolutely cracked
@JayJet53
5 ай бұрын
The results will be that the bullets aren't reflected back on to him and maybe some parts of the bullets give the Jedi some superficial burns in exchange he is actively wasting money in finding and hiring a guy to build his weapons
@ADAJ342
5 ай бұрын
@@JayJet53 ,the CIS is running an entire galactic army, the cost of two miniguns is negligible in the grand squeme of things.
@wiseconqueror533
5 ай бұрын
could be he didn't see it as "honorable" so he doesn't use them.
@bobslackey1456
6 ай бұрын
We can make millions of battle droids cheaply, but bullets? Nah, too expensive.
@luzifershadres
5 ай бұрын
Well, for the republic which struggeled to build up an army in the first place. Also, mass producing the blasters itself is probelly cheaper than guns. Plus 5000 shoots in a magazine as bis as a glock 9mm magazine is amazing for a mass produced droid army. Also, logistic is much easier with that less needed space. On top of that gas for blasters is harnested by sucking it from celestial bodies is cheaper than minning mattle.
@mrii114
4 ай бұрын
@@luzifershadressource? Where the fuck does it say in Star Wars that those highly advanced space age tech is way cheaper than by that time millenia old tech of manufacturing bullets? Also, the struggle to build an army wasn't weapons, it was manpower hence the clone troopers. The short answer is bullets aren't that effective against droids.
@CGHawkatoo
6 ай бұрын
Every trooper safe until the A-10 Warthog is deployed. 😂
@PureCountryof91
5 ай бұрын
*hears turbofans* ahh sheeeii- brrrrt
@rondaxen88
5 ай бұрын
Yea if maybe if it was their own friendly A-10.
@koharumi1
5 ай бұрын
Lol read it as war thog and was very confused for a sec.
@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689
5 ай бұрын
My personal fan fiction would be the rebels fielding a new type of specialized close air support ship mainly thought to render the AT-AT walker useless. Built around a large multi barrel blaster, equipped with missiles and bombs would be nicknamed "Spacehog"
@StateOfTheMind11225
5 ай бұрын
I think the reason close air support has been discontinued in favor of attack vehicles is that lock-on technology and anti-accuracy is an all-time high in the universe despite inaccuracies of it in space battles.
@ericolsen5592
6 ай бұрын
I bet slugthrowers would also be perfect for dealing with Stormtrooper armor, considering the Battle of Endor proving that the armor is only good for dissipating blaster bolts.
@papapalps2415
6 ай бұрын
Endor doesn't prove that, no.
@Myomer104
6 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415(S)he's referring to how the primitive weaponry of the Ewoks was astoundingly effective against Stormtroopers.
@papapalps2415
6 ай бұрын
@@Myomer104 I'm well aware, sweetie. The issue is, it wasn't.
@venom0825
6 ай бұрын
To be fair, it was said that ewok had super strength.
@thiagoaurelio5761
5 ай бұрын
@@venom0825 Sure, but Boba was able to shatter and pierce stormtrooper armor with a gaffi stick, bullets have way more kinetic energy than that.
@Keptaro
5 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: General Grievous was a master marksman with the slug rifle back in the day
@deforesttappan6478
6 ай бұрын
Technically slug throwers still exists!!! Besides I bet that 50cal BMG will go through their armor!!! What???
@PhillyCh3zSt3ak
5 ай бұрын
Level IV armor, which is NIJ certified is able to stop a single .30-06 M2 "black tip" round. .224 valkyrie out of a roughly 20" barrel can easily penetrate that. Speed beats armor.
@AJ_Sparten1337
6 ай бұрын
Clone Trooper and Imperial Stormtrooper armor was highly vulnerable to slug thrower weapons. Clone Commando Katarn Class armor and Beskar was still very resistant to bullets. Droids were also more resilient to slug throwers as opposed to blaster technology.
@Romanov117
6 ай бұрын
It’s kinda different. Slugthrowers in Star Wars are straight out of 19th-century Firearms and they might not have bullets with Anti-Armor capabilities. They are using round tips instead of modern spitzer point.
@pablosoleramaeso4561
6 ай бұрын
That's not true... Is straight up said on the Essential Guide to Warfare, blasters were to slugthrowers like firearms were to crossbows, blasters could essentially penetrate almost all personal armour unleast It was made from extreamly rare and expensive materials such as Cortosis or Beskar, this is to such a point that most anti-blaster armour isn't designed to block blaster bolts just make them less likely to kill you due to how stupidly lethal they are, while most body armour avaliable had pretty good resistance agaisnt projectile based weaponry. Due to this slugthrowers became stagnated so by the Clone Wars era, any relatively good body armour was basicly imprevious to any kind of slugthrower.
@bullbuster944
6 ай бұрын
@@pablosoleramaeso4561 Pastoid armour wouldn't hold up to a clip out of a AK47
@mikailfournea9545
6 ай бұрын
@bullbuster944 um. Yeah. Yeah it could. We already have body armor that can block a few shots from a rifle with just some bruising; now fast forward several millennia and throw in blasters, which are essentially a highly effective plasma bolt. If you look into it, there are mentions that stormtrooper armor (and doubtless clone as well) were practically immune to most ballistic handheld weapons, whereas they could only dissipate blaster fire, knocking out the troops instead of killing them
@bullbuster944
6 ай бұрын
@mikailfournea9545 Mate Plastic based armour ment to absorb heat and despers energy will not hold up to consintracted kinetic energy. We have already seen storm and clone trooper armour shatter to shits and bits from blunt force in pretty much all media.
@ryanfransham6893
6 ай бұрын
The Mandalorians would use bullets to keep jedi in the old republic
@papapalps2415
6 ай бұрын
This isn't a thing, no.
@rondaxen88
5 ай бұрын
Nice headcanon bro
@_aWiseMan
5 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415that..... literally canon, they used and still use slug throwers, hell half of any fully kitted out mandolorians gear is STILL anti Jedi stuff, there's even a book where a padawan gets killed by buckshot because he was never taught how to deal with metal rounds.
@papapalps2415
5 ай бұрын
@@_aWiseMan No, it isn't. There is not a single case I'm actually aware of off the top of my head of a Mandalorian in ANY era using a slug thrower, certainly nevermind on any widespread level. You can feel free to cite your sources, though, especially for that last claim.
@justarandomnerd3240
4 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 whistling birds
@CuriousExplorer_148
6 ай бұрын
So your saying our technology and weapons to this day can affect Jedi and Sith and so your saying that we have a fighting chance against the rebel alliance and the galactic empire?
@Whydoineedahandlepissoff
6 ай бұрын
It’s because Jedi are unarmoured monks, meanwhile stormtroopers would resist every slugthrower round.
@thespinosaurus2972
6 ай бұрын
@@Whydoineedahandlepissoff I doubt stormtrooper armor can stop a bullet.It was mainly made for fear.And it broke when it was hit with tusken raider stick.
@zacharyclapp1072
6 ай бұрын
No, no we do not. Tactical, orbital, bombardment.
@deathrex007
6 ай бұрын
The Galactic Empire is quite the reach, as for the Rebel Alliance… Why?
@Gunnar001
5 ай бұрын
Our modern day military forces would curbstomp most Star Wars ground forces. It’s pretty hilarious.
@mrfunatparties6763
6 ай бұрын
Shottys would definitely be useful up close.
@imjustsaiyan7450
5 ай бұрын
Pump actions and even break actions might make a comeback, as you could switch up your ammo for different targets on the fly; buck shot, slug, maybe even some new high-tech ones like plasma or the like. There'd be bounty hunters rocking shotties for sure.
@trailblazerlazerrazerd9027
6 ай бұрын
The Mandalorian had a gun like that, I think. Although it might've been more like a plasma firing railgun 🤔. And physical rounds have it more of a punch.
@mitchellwright5478
6 ай бұрын
Close, that’s a Disintegrator. Banned by the Empire because as you can imagine by the name, storm trooper armor doesn’t stop shit from it.
@quinnhasse9170
6 ай бұрын
the wookies had ( allegedly ) a physical projectile with a plasma coating
@SpottedHares
6 ай бұрын
It was a type of blaster called a Disientergrator, way more powerful but uses more gas and power for each shot. The one Mando uses looks like it’s was designed to just hold a single shot per change. The effect of the Jawa being blown into vapor was because the blaster bolt was so powerful it in fact blew the Jawa body into vapor.
@happysamoan97
6 ай бұрын
Also after the fall of the republic Jedi and lightsaber weilders in general are so rare on general are so rare that they're that some planets consider them myths.
@Dexthedoge
6 ай бұрын
Slugthrowers can also pierce personal and squad shields.
@sdsdfdu4437
6 ай бұрын
Jedi could just use the force to stop the bullets like Neo
@TheSixerFixer
6 ай бұрын
But that's cheating, like that one lightsaber technique
@WeirdTale
6 ай бұрын
The bullets are too numerous and fast for most Jedy to react on time even with force-foresight. A Jedy can stop a single bullet, but shotgun or an SMG for them is a death sentence if they refuse to doge.
@quinnhasse9170
6 ай бұрын
force barriers are a thing
@rapson158
6 ай бұрын
Mid-High level force users would be immune to bullets, atleast the Jedi-Sith wars era force users. But Low-Mid level ones are fair game
@TheSixerFixer
6 ай бұрын
@@WeirdTale what is a Jedy? I know Jedi
@SpottedHares
6 ай бұрын
Interesting that range and drop off are consider problems, since blaster are used like smooth bore muskets(unless by a main character) needing to be rather close and lot of fire to hit anything. Granted they could just have really really really bad know how on flamingoes chemicals for making even decent bullets.
@CWCvilleCop
5 ай бұрын
All of that is 100% plot contingent. Stormtroopers are actually known for their excellent marksmanship and efficiency in battle, and they do have sniper blaster rifles that don't suffer from dropoff. Besides, if you take EVEN the examples of Stormtroopers directly from the film's scenes, as someone on yt did for a study on their accuracy, they actually are substantially more accurate and efficient than soldiers in modern combat theatres. Statistically, a LOT of lead is thrown out in almost every combat engagement for every casualty taken. That's just the nature of combat. So when we see each side just opening fire in the films and burning up their ammunition for the comparatively few casualties we see on-screen, that's actually accurate. And speaking of accuracy, they tend to shoot more accurately in the films than what is the case with combat in real life. Though, they tend to engage the enemy in much closer range than in much of irl combat, so there is that.
@KillinWithKi11Roy
5 ай бұрын
"Lamo" said the space hillbilly with the 50bmg AP rounds to the ground of stormtroopers trying to get him to paid his taxes.
@alexanderrahl7034
5 ай бұрын
The problem is, by the time of the movies, armor and such was all designed to defend against blasters, not slug throwers. Making them effective again lol
@vorelordjr9019
5 ай бұрын
The adjusting for the bullet drop just shows that you know how to shoot a gun properly and you can hit something at a distance and not have to rely on space toy
@luzifershadres
5 ай бұрын
But easier use is the whole reason we even got to the point of Guns. Without crossbows, which only saw wide spread due to the small requirement of training compared to traditional bows wich were stronger, we would had needed much longer to even get to the point of modern guns. In war, skill doesnt matter if a easy use weapon can the same job. Same could be said on mashine guns compared to snipper riffles in mid range.
@CWCvilleCop
5 ай бұрын
@@luzifershadres Yes, but that was just one advantage of firearms and not the sole reason why they eventually took over combat. It took a LOT of development to even make firearms be reliably armor piercing and reliable as weapons in other-than-nearly-perfect conditions. The main factor that seemed to drive all of this, though, was logistics. Once firearms were strong enough, reliable enough, efficient enough to make on large scales, and there were tried and true unit formations and tactics that allowed for them to be more effective than just a specialty weapon on the battlefield, THEN it was worth equipping large portions of your army with them. Though once this was the case, that certainly synergized with the shorter training regimens required, and THEN guns became King on the battlefield.
@mrii114
4 ай бұрын
Different gravities on different planets would have different effects on the bullet drop, not to mention the artificial gravity in their ships, would make the bullet drop inconsistent in different scenarios and would be harder to train for.
@justinharrison6807
6 ай бұрын
Actually blaster came before slug throwers. The first Sith empire took over the galaxy and all the species of the galaxy reverse engineered their advanced tech. One of the reason why slug throwers are pretty much non existent is that no one had a reason to invest in that technology as blaster were seemingly better.
@Fourtytwo4242
6 ай бұрын
Actually one culture went pretty indepth with slug throwers and were their favorite weapons for a bit of time. That of course being Mandalorians, see when jedi went to war with them, they realize blasters just suck when fighting jedi. So they invented shotguns, has a shotgun round shoots 20 pallets at ones, blowing a jedi's head clean off. There was no way you can deflect a shotgun round, so it became their most used weapons. It could easily be assumed by end of the war mandalorian shotguns where perfected, shooting 10 rounds per second, the perfect jedi killer. There most likely some still around, seen has holy items of a golden age long since past, also most likely fuck up anyone even in armor.
@myduckisonqauck7227
6 ай бұрын
@@Fourtytwo4242 everything you just said is headcanon
@papapalps2415
6 ай бұрын
@@myduckisonqauck7227 Star Wars 'fans' endlessly regurgitating baseless fanon myths and spreading it around like a social contagion because they are too fucking lazy and too fucking vapid to have any critical thinking/analytical skills or familiarity with the source material they are supposedly citing? No. No, that can't be true, that's impossible!
@papapalps2415
6 ай бұрын
@@myduckisonqauck7227 Star Wars fans? Endlessly regurgitating baseless fanon myths and outright misinformation in a never ending cycle because they are too lazy and too vapid to have any real critical thinking or analytical skills, or actual familiarity with the source material they are supposedly citing? No, no that can't be true, that's impossible!
@Baconator5642
5 ай бұрын
@@myduckisonqauck7227 They massively overplayed it but the mandalorians DID use shotguns to kill jedi, it's actual canon.
@Verrin_the_Wyvern
5 ай бұрын
From what little I understand about materials science, I'm guessing that blasterproof armor was made out of a really hard material since having more bonds on more atoms means that more heat needs to be applied before the material starts to melt. Most people seem to confuse hardness with toughness. Hardness is a material's ability to resist being deformed while toughness is how well a material can handle an impact. Tough materials require a good mixture of hardness and flexibility so that it requires more energy to deform the material in the first place and even more to continue to deform the molecular structure until it sandwiches the entire molecular structure together, which means even more energy is required to deform the entire thing at once to the point where it breaks. A super hard material like tungsten on the other wing is incapable of deforming and fractures instead. Each individual atom takes the brunt of the impact and thus the impact only needs enough energy to initially break off each atom, there's not much of a combined resistance from the entire structure. Hard materials are terrible at withstanding hard impacts (which is why we don't use tungsten or diamond in body armor), but it's more heat resistant and can handle stress (weight placed on it) pretty well. Additionally, you could probably use electromagnetic fields around someone to create an alternative path for plasma to travel (plasma dissapates if not in an electromagnetic field) and thus redirect the plasma away from them. Such a field would do less at protecting against bullets since bullets aren't restricted to moving in electromagnetic fields and have more force than the free electrons in plasma. There are ways to negate damage from plasma, but not much can be done against a small metal rock going at fast speeds. One thing to consider about the nature of plasma weapons as well is that they damage things through heat, not kinetic energy. Melting through something is a slow process and requires the plasma to maintained on a specific spot on the target for a certain amount of time before anything happens. Considering how blasters shoot bolts and not a maintained beam means that the plasma has only a tiny window of time to cause damage, so the plasma has to have ludicrous amounts of heat in order to do the damage we see. In order to generate that much heat and create an electromagnetic field that extends far enough for it to have any actually range, the battery on the blaster must have wyverns know how much power. (I don't remember where I saw this one video about lightsabers in a realistic sense but it was stated that a lightsaber would require an entire nuclear reactor to power, there might be others that have different estimates for the power required) I imagine that a blaster would require about as much power as a lightsaber, though we've also seen that blasters do very little damage to large creatures and terrain. I'm sure that that power would be put to much better use on a railgun where you get more penetration for the same amount of power. Using a blaster's battery on a railgun might yield you something as powerful as the railguns mounted on today's experimental warships. One issue with having a railgun with that much power would be the insane recoil that comes with it, so it might be better suited for tanks and droids who are more sturdy and heavy than a fleshy human being and thus are better at handling the recoil. In summary, I think that the use of kinetic projectiles would realistically be preferred over blasters, especially for colonists on worlds where a railgun's firepower would be incredably useful against massive blasterproof creatures. (I am not a materials scientist so some of my information might be not entirely correct.)
@TheManofthecross
5 ай бұрын
its something
@poopmanthe3rd794
6 ай бұрын
I think the development of space travel also helped in taking the slugthrowers out of popularity. Kinda hard to fire a gun in a vacuum 'n all. Edit: I lied :>
@rapatacush3
6 ай бұрын
Guns works in vacuum
@poopmanthe3rd794
6 ай бұрын
@@rapatacush3 do they? I thought it didn't work lol. Guess that shows how smart I am.
@septimus7524
6 ай бұрын
@@poopmanthe3rd794 Yeah turns out all modern firearms cartridges have an oxidizer mixed together with the gunpowder. Kinda has to, since cartridges are airtight when plugged up with the bullet
@WingDiamond
6 ай бұрын
When you're engaged in a firefight on board a star cruiser, it's NOT a good idea to be firing a weapon that has the ability to punch lots of holes through the outer hull. Kinda wanna hang on to your breathable atmosphere.
@phoenix211245
6 ай бұрын
@@WingDiamondA blaster that can punch holes in your armor can also punch holes in your ship...... And given the sheer variety of ammunition you can have with a slug thrower, never mind things like smart bullets, it should have been by far the superior choice for spec ops forces. And yes, that includes ammo that won't punch holes in your ship, unlike a blaster, esp given most rebels don't wear armor.
@user-zw2bw1nd3x
6 ай бұрын
Isn't 'slugthower' a B5 term? Thats where I first heard it describing 'ancient Earth weaponry' in sci-fi.
@unknown9126
6 ай бұрын
For me, the biggest advantage of blasters is logistics for the ammo, and that energized plasma is more damaging in most situations. Suggers and mass drivers would definitely outrage blasters from what we've seen in Star Wars. Not to mention a higher velocity and much more difficult for enemies to see where you're shooting from.
@darkstone_official_2427
4 ай бұрын
TheRussianBadger: That's basically the plot of the Mandalorian, "Jedi can block laser bolts? Okay, have fun with this buckshot."
@bionodroid547
5 ай бұрын
additionally, blasters were just more deadly most of the time, since they blew up whatever they hit and you could even dial them in to produce much more powerful shots. A regular gun wouldn’t do that to uncle Owen and aunt Beru
@firesturmgaming
5 ай бұрын
Thing of the past? Sees Mandalorians using buckshot to counter Jedis.
@g11operator
5 ай бұрын
“Blasters are useless against our lightsabers!” My 12 Gauge automatic shotgun:
@mykuronekocantbethiscute
5 ай бұрын
*gauge
@SchwererGustavThe800mm
5 ай бұрын
Jedi/Sith: *Trains for decades in saber technique and discipline* Some guy with a $199 shotgun he bought at Walmart: "Am I a joke to you?"
@marktheprussian
5 ай бұрын
Blasters have to account for way more bullet time. A normal gun goes over the sound barrier so about 360 m/s. I heard a blaster goes only something like 50 m/s.
@mrii114
4 ай бұрын
That's assuming science based on our universe, but in star wars, if a blaster using plasma/laser/etc. can only travel at 50 m/s it only stands to reason that a bullet in the same universe would travel far slower.
@lewisarcher3916
5 ай бұрын
I’d imagine slug throwers being used for hunting or as a hobby for the elite or ultra wealthy since they’d have the time and resources to make keeping slug throwers worthwhile and probably have ornate or just high quality weapons instead of the primitive guns of the tusken raiders
@CrimsonDemon0
6 ай бұрын
Star wars intoduction says "long long time ago in a galaxy far far away" if its actually a long time ago this means they didnt invent the modern firearms we know today
@Ravenaxis
5 ай бұрын
Good ole 1942's MG 42 1200 rounds/minute fire rate "deflect this"
@ItsRawdraft2
6 ай бұрын
Hear me out: slugs made out of beskar
@normanmerrick9493
5 ай бұрын
"Slug throwers were a thing of the past" The Verpines: Allow us to introduce ourselves *loads shatter guns*
@adfdasdfadfadsfareae
6 ай бұрын
no one ever seems to mention that blaster bolts are SLOW AF. like, if someone shot at you from 100ft away you could probably sidestep it lol
@mrii114
4 ай бұрын
Really, they're slow so people can see them in the show. There's no point in having cool lasers if you barely see them zip through.
@thebagel_lord
4 ай бұрын
Slugthrowers can also function in environments where the electronics of a blaster get messed up, and can be easy to maintain
@hunterdinoking
6 ай бұрын
So only a small amount of the galaxy used them in the first place, plus, slug throwers aren’t equivalent to our firearms
@Snorlax3806
5 ай бұрын
Majority of the Jedi are wearing bath robes it's definitely perfect for a nice hot molten metal shower.
@Your_western_knight
6 ай бұрын
“Oh what’s that you deflected my blaster well how about this buckshot”
@elijahjones9040
5 ай бұрын
Force shield
@chuckingflem
5 ай бұрын
Whoever drew that comic doesn't know how "slug throwers" work😂😂😂
@Internetscreen
6 ай бұрын
Okay true true but blasters are significantly slower than guns Bro I was just saying. everyone had a debate in the comments
@clementpeloquin1131
6 ай бұрын
not when the force is with you
@politicianguy4527
6 ай бұрын
Blaster had More rounds and metal is expensive
@lonewolf0712
6 ай бұрын
@@politicianguy4527you could just have a backup pistol to deal with a force user. Blaster primary, slug thrower secondary.
@politicianguy4527
6 ай бұрын
@@lonewolf0712 if I was a bounty hunter then is yes
@drizzmatec
6 ай бұрын
@lonewolf0712 The Slugthrower trick only worked of inexperienced Jedi, like Padawans. A Jedi knight with combat experience would be able to see the bullet coming and dodge it with their Battle meditation or double vision powers, or even just catch the bullets midair with the Force.
@Deathbecomesme3
5 ай бұрын
A jedi caught in a buckshot crossfire would most likely be a death sentence.
@edwardbryan9501
5 ай бұрын
Just use a similar combi-weapon like a Melta-Bolter from Warhammer 40k. Like using a shotgun underattachment for an E-11 blaster. Blaster for long-range distractions while shotgun is for up close kill.
@captain_commenter8796
5 ай бұрын
Bro each kill of the good clones made me winch quite a bit, they survived up to this moment just to die to their own brainwashed brother.
@DraconiusDragora
4 ай бұрын
Well, Slugthrowers usually punched straight through the armour of any armour created. In most areas of known space, they were banned, which is also why ammunitions and creation of Slugthrowers is hard to come by in most places. They are way more common in example the rimworlds and around tribals, as they would have an easier time producing the ammo and the weapons. Rather than having a gas factory sucking up, and then converting that gas into usable fuel for the blasters of different kinds. Also interesting fact: Blaster Bolts change colour depending on the Gas used to make the "Battery" Pack for the gun.
@hornedgoddess8191
5 ай бұрын
From a logistical point of view, it was most likely easier, cheaper and more efficient to transport blasters too since you wouldn't need to transport ammunition, especially when space travel is likely more expensive.
@TheManofthecross
5 ай бұрын
that's most likelly the logical thing here. the logistics. the only risk of one facing agianst bullets is usally on the planets where they are made along with the ammo.
@davetrummer3439
5 ай бұрын
It appears blaster bolts travel at a specific speed and are visible from the moment of firing, whereas bullets, also travelling at a specific speed, are virtually invisible due to their small size (even tracers are invisible from the front.). From all indications, there also appears to be a lag time between blaster shots of up to several seconds, limiting the number of shots down range (remember the muzzle loaders vs. breach loaders?) An M60, M16/M4, M2 can put many more rounds down range and even hand guns can kick 7 or more (auto's) depending on caliber & magazine capacity.
@SpanishAvenger
5 ай бұрын
Also- the fact that a small blaster pistol has the same kicking power as a real life .50 cal incendiary round. Just watch any scene where any blaster pistol bolt hits a wall; it leaves a burning golf ball-sized hole.
@ataberkemir3649
4 ай бұрын
Still a must have in a bounty hunter and a mandalorian's arsenal, shotgun for close range and silenced sniper for far away enemies.
@user-zw6ld3nu1k
5 ай бұрын
Earth fire-weaponry: Beware Galaxy Far Far Away!!! Our time shall come!!!
@death13a
6 ай бұрын
Don't forget Slug throwers also Jam and need regular maintenance just from firing and depending on environmental conditions
@beanward_xd527
9 күн бұрын
The thing is they still often use slug throwers on tanks and things. The AT-TE uses one although it does apparently melt the projectile as it comes out of the barrel afaik.
@lightningmonky7674
5 ай бұрын
One of the few actual metal projectiles i've seen in star wars media was in the 2003 clone wars, dirge has a shoulder gun that shoots metal bullets and obi wan is able to deflect it with the force
@bigj1905
4 ай бұрын
There is one other benefit to a ‘slug-thrower’, which was that their range was far superior to most blasters. So snipers, hunters, and bounty hunters would sometimes equip them when they needed to make a precise shot from far away.
@louisrodriguez9112
5 ай бұрын
CIS should've given the Droidekas Gattling guns and twin blaster armaments to switch between or pair them in units to make a wall of death, truly a missed opportunity
@barnowl2655
4 ай бұрын
I also like to think a problem with slugs against Jedi would be the Jedi capable of stopping the bullet with the force. Imagine Neo from The Matrix. A Jedi could sense if someone was going to pull a trigger and anticipate a bullet being fired and merely stop the bullet in mid-air.
@Operator--du4ek
5 ай бұрын
In warhammer 40k most traditional weopons using metal bullets were used on planets that had lower technological levels than the rest of the imperium. Very common on hive cities
@NotEnoughHats1800
5 ай бұрын
Not to mention, blasters are firing rounds that are always incendiary. Slug throwers still have a place, but for tactical situations.
@alexandersergal
5 ай бұрын
Oh no bullet drop in my close corridor combat! What ever will i do!
@delta4093
6 ай бұрын
Hmm... a primutuve slug-thrower? I didn't know lizards were so nostalgic!
@vegeta002
14 күн бұрын
The effect of lightsabers on bullets varies by source. * Sometimes they're melted into slag and hurt the Jedi. * Sometimes they're disintegrated or vaporised entirely and nothing hits the Jedi. * Sometimes lightsabers deflect bullets like normal. I would consider the second one to be the most sensible; bullets are tiny and soft compared to a blast door, so slag shouldn't be an issue like in Episode 1. Any gases produced should also be contained, as the field keeping the plasma blade-shaped should also stop any gases from escaping.
@rodionpohodnia3905
Күн бұрын
Tbf blasters only give you burns, while kinetic projectiles tumble inside the body, create a temporary cavity, and rip organs apart. Also if you're shooting plasma you still need to account for target trajectory. And at least with kinetic weapons you don't have to shoot a tracer round every time
@Naraku-no-Hana-WE
4 ай бұрын
Come to think of it one huge con to blaster weapons vs slug throwers is that every round you fire is brighter than a tracer round, making it really easy to trace your position. Sure, with advanced surveillance and reconnaissance technology this doesnt matter as much but the movies and games show there are numerous gaps in both and not nearly as many security cameras as you'd expect.
@gogetterkidsgaming9207
5 ай бұрын
Also forgot about force users grabbing their bullets and pushing them back!
@eotwkdp
5 ай бұрын
Still would prefer slug throwers (our versions ) since the damage alone and if we designed the bullets to be even more deadly themselves. Nothing scares you than essentially a upgraded way to send rock into your body
@Aurilion44
5 ай бұрын
If you know anything about Legends, that is one of the reasons why Jedis and Sith were pretty wary and didn't understimate Mandos. Not only they were sometimes Force Sensitive themselves (without training it just gives better reflexes and intuition), but they also usually had entire arsenals which did include slughtrowers (Heavy Duty Pisolt Blaster and backup slughthrower were kinda stereotyp), disintegrators, dart throwers, railguns (!), flamethrowers, sniper rifles, IED traps and grapnel lines. Many of those weapons circumvented lightsaber and they had to focus on dodging or staying in cover. Add to this, that there weren't really THAT many demigod force users that could casually fling people across the rooms from many meters and you see why Mandos were infamous force user assasins
@OneTwoMark
5 ай бұрын
Makes me think could Jedi stop bullets with the force like Neo from the matrix. As they’re physical objects.
@Joker97131
6 ай бұрын
So that's why... I had honestly thought why some people in Star Wars didn't use lasers, remembering the pod racing scene in Phantom Menace.
@ValirAmaril
5 ай бұрын
that comic artist drawing the bullets being fired with the whole cartridge 😅
@battlefrontinfinite5215
5 ай бұрын
This lore sounds so cool! This era might be more interesting than the era The Acolyte takes place
@Zloy585
5 ай бұрын
I always liked how in most media lasers are portrayed powerful af, but being standard in star wars, any projectile weapon was shown as powerfull as hell
@eddieholly648
5 ай бұрын
Fun fact, hard projectile weapons did still have a place in the EU. Mandalorians used it because to could be manufactured cheap on their planets and they used the shrapnel effect as a feature in the game Empire at War they had specialized arty ships that used projectiles weapons to bypass shields.
@Nostroman_Praetor
5 ай бұрын
Buckshot was goated during the Mandalorian Wars for a reason. "Parry this you stupid wizard."
@cadenhibbert6424
5 ай бұрын
I feel like slug throwers are still 100% relevant. They were probably just written out for story reasons, imagine 1 MG42 from the 1930s would absolutely wreck a room full of Jedi. Screw the reload and bullet drop, sounds pretty advantageous to me. Not to mention shotguns, also being able to be suppressed/ not be able to tell where the bullet came from. Honestly I would probably just rather have a slug thrower with a good amount of ammo
@andrewdacunha5695
5 ай бұрын
As someone that has carried 500 rifle rounds in their factor packaging, even if blasters are less powerful than modern rifles I would take a blaster rifle in a heartbeat. The standard round for a the ar15 platform is the 223/556 500 rounds weight about 16 pounds, then you calculate in the weight of mags and it starts to make perfect sense. A blaster rifle would often have in excess of 500 shots from a small power cell weighing ounces, ask any combat vet if he would have liked to carry 2,000 rounds in four mags weighing about a pound vs the 10-15 mags they carried weighing around 20-30 pounds when you count all the equipment needed to carry and support those mags.
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