i completely agree with this, i feel like old republic content brought into canon would have to be something that hasn't been extensively covered in the games already.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@EvalynStarWar exactly, and if they do bring these characters in particular to canon just do It through remakes, if they wanna adapt some of the stories show exar kun or nomi Sunrider instead
@EvalynStarWar
2 ай бұрын
@@the_revanchist_ honestly that'd be sick.
@bantuboi3131
2 ай бұрын
You're saying they can't make Nihilus, Revan, or someone from KOTOR a villain for a trilogy? 3 films is enough time to develop arcs and backstories. When they make up new stuff, it usually is bad.
@EvalynStarWar
Ай бұрын
@@bantuboi3131 well considering the fact that nihilus would be a bad idea and revan's storyline isn't based around being 'the villain' it would be a bad idea for either of them to be villains for a trilogy. honestly, their content works so unbelievably better in the games, i'd maybe like something for the mandalorian wars, but having a whole trilogy rehashing one game would be wild and would be worse than the existing context. something being good doesn't automatically mean in needs a trilogy or even a movie.
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
Ай бұрын
@@EvalynStarWarHopefully we get the remakes sooner or later cuz the remakes of the game are still in legends canon so it will be fine.
@dreadrath
2 ай бұрын
Sure he can. Just make it a short film with a robed, masked brooding fellow waking up and walking to his galactic fridge for a yummy spherical snack.
@bigatake1600
2 ай бұрын
we pretty much already got that in a comic.
@darrenblair7230
2 ай бұрын
He's a badass character but he definitely doesn't need a movie we really need is a animated series based off of knights of the Old Republic telling the story of Darth Revan his fall to the dark and the series of events that brings him back to the light starting around the end of the mandalorian war and going from there
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@darrenblair7230 for that tho you'd have to do it all about Revans early life too
@danelamoreaux4166
2 ай бұрын
Church
@kabisue1997
2 ай бұрын
A Nihilus horror film could work
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
But would it actually be good? a Nihilus horror film would also just remove anything that makes him interesting
@erikveldkamp4828
Ай бұрын
but than you need a new character. Nihilus is first and far most a villain who needs a good countweight if you have a Nihilus horror film Nihilus is the monster so he would barley appear
@bluntslt8023
2 ай бұрын
Darth Nihilus is my favorite sith i wish he could be brought in but not from Disney
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@bluntslt8023 depends who from Disney does it, a kotor 2 remake for example would work well imo
@Jedi_With_Aesthetic
2 ай бұрын
I’d like to see a movie or show maybe even a game with a Starweird in canon when in the comics talked about them they referred to them as planet eaters so I’m guessing that means a canon starweird can drain the lifeforce from planets like Darth Nihilus making them a bigger threat than in legends continuity it would be a terrifying scene if a swarm of them all started feeding on a planet from orbit
@nikospom1757
2 ай бұрын
Well, first of all any SITH solo movie wouldn't really work because apart from a few exceptions(vader, revan, etc) sith are almost pure evil characters and there are very little redemption attributes about them. So the audience can't really support and feel for those characters as much as a morally good character no matter how cool these characters can be. My idea would be for darth nihilus to be the villain for his first movie and also keep it simple. Maybe show some Palawan exploring a forbidden temple and then show visions of the impending darkness of darth nihilus as they try to figure out who this figure is. This was a calling to him. Keep him a mystery , don't show much of him. Have some plot going on and in the end have nihilus appear out of nowhere with his ship to consume the planet. He does (some survive or not) full filing his hunger and the movie end there. Then explore his origins with meetra too in another movie.
@Bailonus
2 ай бұрын
Nihilus is less a character than a Force of Nature that embodies the Sith's hunger. Their hunger will consumes them as much as they consume the galaxy. He also represent the danger of what would like happen if the Jedi Exile (and its strongly implied Nihilus is merely an offshoot of the Exile whether originally they were suppose to be the exile's shadow or one of the Exile's former subordinate she was likely close to) fell to the darkside. The only story you can tell is his fall. From regular Jedi, to falling to the Darkside to survive the Mass Shadow Generator, to being found and trained by Traya, and all the while slowly being consumed by his own power till he is nothing more than a spirit haunting a suit of armor. Ending with the Exile putting them down because its made clear, she is the only one that can face him. As they are the same. Any story of Nihilus has to involve the Exile at some point. As both the cause of his creation and his end.
@aurelcorstan5242
2 ай бұрын
1000% agree. Nihilus can't exist outside of his intimate and intricate relationship to the destruction of Malachor and everything that happens through KotoR 2.
@shaktra1563
16 күн бұрын
I don’t understand why it would be an issue to showcase the old republic story in full. Why are we even seperating Nihlus and the exile? I think the story of Revan, the exile, the mandalorian wars, and the sith triumvate are all worthy of making it to the big screen. It would also give us a fresh timeline that hasn’t been tread in the theatres. If they paced it correctly and maybe added a bit more to flesh out the story or interconnect them, I think we’d end up with something great.
@Hello-bi1pm
2 ай бұрын
Ok, what about Visas Marr solo film with Nihilus as a slasher monster
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@Hello-bi1pm you run into the same issue I discussed in this video, you just make Nihilus a boring monster instead of a character with nuance Which you only get from meetra Surik
@historicflame972
2 ай бұрын
@@the_revanchist_ I don't mean to be that guy but isn't the point of Nihilus that he's a boring monster with no nuance outside of "hunger bad and hurts," hence why the story does away with him so unceremoniously. He's a jab at villains who try to be like Vader but only focus on the cool factor and not the human element.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@historicflame972 quite the opposite The whole point of Nihilus is that he's the mirror of the jedi exile, he's everything she would've became and he represents the consequences of her actions during the mandalorian wars He's very much a metaphor for Getting over trauma as well as drug addiction, meetra can't face Nihilus (her trauma) until she's gotten strong in the force again which she does via bonding, something we do in real life when we're not ok, we have others for support It isn't until meetra does this that she can confront Nihilus and beat him, overcoming her trauma
@pedroboueri
Ай бұрын
I agree with you in the perspective that a solo movie of him would be a completly boring experience, but i think it could be nice to use him as an antagonist in a Kotor movie. Or even his return (with someone wearing his mask) in the ABY period (wouldn't mind watching grandmaster Luke vs Nihilus) as an unknown menace.
@tfcuber1
2 ай бұрын
Awesome video man, I loved your opinion and explanation on this topic. +1 sub
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@darthnihilus511
Ай бұрын
Thanks. Really. I was trying to get this movie gig, I could use the credits. Im working on the mental health part btw
@the_revanchist_
Ай бұрын
I just think you're not movie material I'm sorry man, games are really more your thing
@darthnihilus511
Ай бұрын
@@the_revanchist_ Revan does have a much better backstory for sure. I should at least get a supporting role or something, I mean, check out the outfit, with the mask!🤷🏻♂️😂
@daurydavis3983
Ай бұрын
I haven't played the older games but from what I hear from fans of the old republic games they describe Malgus and Nihilus as if they're invincible and too op. If they were to be put in movies or tv shows as the main villains eventually they'd have to be defeated by the jedi who are probably not as experienced as the two and people would hate that and throw a tantrum.
@the_revanchist_
Ай бұрын
Tbh the problem with Nihilus is that there isn't actually as much material on him as people seem to think, a lot of him is up to interpretation With Malgus it's a bit different, whilst yes he's an absolute tank who can take a ridiculous amount of punishment, his biggest flaw is that he gets tunnel vision which leaves him open for attacks, which is what led to him losing the battle of alderaan which then made him require his mask They're definitely overrated in terms of power for sure, mainly because people just judge Malgus from the trailers and not him as a character
@Darth-Nihilus1
2 ай бұрын
Fan made films do Star Wars right. I just watched a Darth Revan fan film and it was amazing! I cosplay as Nihilus and people have approached me about making fan made series. Having space munchies is just a small fraction of the full experience of Nihilus. He’s monster in the sense that yeah he consumes life to feed himself, I love your breakdown of him since you’re 100% right on everything you said about him. 😂 I’m working on a comedy skit about snickers bars. KOTOR are writing with so much creativity that movies would not do them justice
@wb7585
Ай бұрын
I think the Kotor restored content had that plot that nilhius was inverse of exile. Idk I have to replay the game with out mods. I do like the comparison and the good vid
@MisterDanger01
Ай бұрын
there is huge potential, his story is not limited to malachor or katarr, he made onderon his base and started twisting the minds of the creatures there and interferred in the civil war, he also started to fuck around with sion to the point where sion said fk off and left, there is plenty stuff one can introduce in tha movie, as long its not disney that makes it
@solaism
Ай бұрын
Idk if this is a weird opinion or not but I feel if they did a old republic movie Revan would have to be the main character, tbh he might even be able to join the sith triumvirate the only problem is that you would have to get rid of sion or kreia(most likely sion i think, he could still exist in the story but i dont think he should be a member of the group, maybe nihilus just keeps him around as a "battery" of some sort, i feel like that could work with his character and the themes of KOTOR as a whole)
@solaism
Ай бұрын
The old republic would also 100% have to be a trilogy, I don't think you could fit the story into a Duology let alone a single movie, there's just so much stuff to cover, I think it would have to be at least 3 two and a half hour long movies to do it justice. Revan would prob have to be the main character but make the Exile the deuteragonist. Darth Malak could prob serve as the antag of the first movie then Nihilus then Vitiate? I think the problem with trying to theorize about what it could be is that they could change it so much from how it was in legends, for all I know Nihilus, Malak, Vitiate, or even some random dude could be the main villain of the entire trilogy. I do however think tho Vitiate would be a good final one cause he could serve the "Palp" role of the trilogy where he is the one orchestrating everything and making everyone his puppets.
@the_revanchist_
Ай бұрын
@@solaism nah I disagree Imo Revan and KOTOR as a whole can't be adapted and him being part of the triumvirate makes no sense, none of his goals align with the 3 members and also it's hardly a triumvirate if there's 4 people
@solaism
Ай бұрын
@@the_revanchist_ Yeah i agree it cant be adapted, thats why i think the story would have to be changed so much and yeah i agree i just dont know what they could possibly even do to try and fit all the characters needed without just throwing people in for no reason cause in a game you can just have tons of different factions all doing their own thing but in a movie(or movie series) having tons and tons of different groups all doing their own things would take too much time away from the actual story being told. So like for example lets say they did a old republic style story. There are at least 4 groups that really need a big focus in the story. Vitiates stuff, Revans stuff, The sith triumvirate, and the jedi order(with how much star wars is pushing mandalorians nowadays i think you could also argue they could be just as important as these other groups too in a hypothetical old republic trilogy) but for a movie thats just too many groups. Maybe a way to make it more simple would just be Vitiate, Jedi order, and Revan but leaving out Nihilus would be a huge miss, so the only way they could implement the sith triumvirate is to have Vitiate prob use them to further his goals and just have them be his puppets.
@majinalastor5740
Ай бұрын
make a solo movie where he is the main character, but it shows EVERYTHING from his perspective on Malachor 5 make it a 2 part and make part 2 the side of Exile
@Willpower-74205
2 ай бұрын
True, he doesn't work well outside of the story he was created for, but he's still fun to watch. The action figure is cool, too. 😎👍
@Blurr_Light
Ай бұрын
we would have to have a movie based off the Knights of the Republic one first then the second
@eclipse_prime101
2 ай бұрын
Would’ve loved to have had Nihilus in battlefront
@hordakprime6172
Ай бұрын
The only way it works is if you give him an origin story. I heard in a video his origin is a mystery and he can in theory reborn as another wound in the force forms.
@danelamoreaux4166
2 ай бұрын
I want a Revan movie or show. He's my favorite SW character ever. As long as it's not from Disney.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@danelamoreaux4166 he's my favourite too but imo it's a really bad idea, I'd rather they keep all the KOTOR characters to the games instead and expand of them via remakes and new books etc
@danelamoreaux4166
2 ай бұрын
@@the_revanchist_ I agree. However,I can hope.
@historicflame972
2 ай бұрын
I think the only way they could touch the Old Republic era is if they made a Mandalorian wars film/series. It's pretty much the only era that doesn't lose its depths from being adapted thanks to never really appearing in the games and you don't have to rely on video game characters like Revan who people might get mad about seeing adapted and not being like how they played them.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
Or they could adapt Nomi Sunrider or Exar kun or even maybe some of the more ancient sith
@baldmanevil
2 ай бұрын
Scottish actors like Simon Pegg and Jack Lowden resemble a younger Ian McDiarmid and could be cast as Palpatine in a movie on his origins.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@baldmanevil I feel like the dude who played vecna would be an awesome young palpatine
@baldmanevil
2 ай бұрын
@@the_revanchist_ another candidate I thought was Billy Boyd who played as Pippin in the Lord of the Rings
@alannordstrom
Ай бұрын
The only way would be before malachor or his transformation into nihilus maby?
@the_revanchist_
Ай бұрын
Maybe but I'd argue who he was before Malachor doesn't matter?
@kaniscreamnow
2 ай бұрын
I could do it. Nihilus has been my favourite Sith since childhood. Disney wouldn't like this, but... Make it a horror film/thriller, where some haunted Jedi have to hunt down this evil force and somehow survive it, but also stop this terrifying force while it hunts them tirelessly like a deranged creature, effortlessly consuming those they love, all that they know, stopping at nothing while they struggle to figure out a way to stop it before it's too late, and that could make for a great show.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
The problem with that approach tho is that it strips Nihilus of all his meaning and essentially just makes him a slasher villain with no real character other than him eating force energy
@kaniscreamnow
2 ай бұрын
@@the_revanchist_ true. that's a good point. He is very influenced by the force he craves, which could drive him into madness, but maybe there could be an element of internal struggle in the story, where maybe his past self resurfaces every once in a while and the dichotomy between that past good in him conflicting with the monster he's become? Or, maybe something else. It's a work in progress idea but I would love to see the character in live-action. Maybe a new story-arc for the character could be written in the future if they chose to resurrect him in another period/timeline of StarWars canon or legends? Maybe a Nihilus 2.0 situation?
@sweetricecakeman8582
2 ай бұрын
@@kaniscreamnowThe meta-narrative is underpinned by the continued use of dichotomy.
@sweetricecakeman8582
2 ай бұрын
@@kaniscreamnowThe meta-narrative is underpinned by the continued use of dichotomy.
@gurken_
Ай бұрын
darth vader cant have a film without luke?!?!
@the_revanchist_
Ай бұрын
Darth vaders STORY doesn't work without Luke
@BurghezulDjentilom
Ай бұрын
Because he doesn't need one. There, saved you a few minutes.
@the_revanchist_
Ай бұрын
Cheers Burghezuldjentilom
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@mr.nimbus537
2 ай бұрын
Star wars need a long break.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@mr.nimbus537 I disagree, I think when people say this they just mean they want stories they like again, which is obviously fine
@fliplife67
2 ай бұрын
The story of Kotor might be good in live action besides that thanks to Disney B.S. we will never get a Kotor 3 video game.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@fliplife67 Disney isn't the reason we never got KOTOR 3😂 3 was canned long before they got the rights to star wars and because of the KOTOR remake, a real KOTOR 3 is actually a possibility
@bestintheworld568
2 ай бұрын
@@the_revanchist_they literally blame Disney for everything. “I lost my job yesterday…damn you, Disney!!!” 🤦♂️
@jamesbrockis5182
2 ай бұрын
Not live action. It needs to be animated.
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@jamesbrockis5182 even animated a solo Nihilus project that isn't just a short film would fall apart
@Hello-bi1pm
2 ай бұрын
But Vader works fine without Luke, bad example
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
@@Hello-bi1pm whilst Vader does work without Luke to an extent (Kenobi, Cal's games etc) his actual full story does not Vader is interesting because of his connection to Luke Skywalker and the fact Luke brings him back to the light, without that Vader is just a henchman
@bantuboi3131
2 ай бұрын
@the_revanchist_ He was a bit more than that in the Force Unleased series. He had ambition to overthrow Palpatine at some point.
@Starwarsmidget
2 ай бұрын
Because disney fucked everything up, rouge 1 even looks like dogshit
@the_revanchist_
2 ай бұрын
It's got nothing to do with Disney 😂 It's about how he's not a character who can stand on his own cause he's so linked to someone else
@paqstheunknown
Ай бұрын
Only can be brought back with the old mandalorian wars and cant have to much screen time, he can only be showed during horrific planet eating or force draining ppl around him🥶🥶 Its would be and absolute fan service😂 a lot of stick beating in the theatre😂 Me beign a sw dork and nihilus fangirl would be part of the circle jerk also
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