That was exactly what I needed to get closure to this very human question! God Bless, & keep preaching Gods word.
@jerjerrybear
4 жыл бұрын
So why didn't God tell John the Baptist or Stephen the martyr to kill the people first that would eventually kill them (taking John's head / stoning Stephen)? I know this is New Testament but if God is same yesterday, today, and forever?
@JosiahFickinger
3 жыл бұрын
Sure God is always the same, but that doesn't mean his plans for us on this Earth stay the same. Also, if these people killed their killers, then they'd probably have to kill anyone else who tries to kill them. Also, sacrificing yourself shows God your extreme dedication to him.
@paulwolstenholme1673
6 жыл бұрын
ok, I was listening intently to the arguments given , the usual Isiah quote taken out of context blah blah...was waiting for the next one and ..bam...was hit with "did you know animals can carry demonic spirits"...excellent, now I know it's a comedy show and not a serious philosphical explanation of God's reasons.
@harrisdupree3323
6 жыл бұрын
Laugh all you want man-you don't know what HELL is until you are attacked by a Demonic turtle!!
@JosiahFickinger
3 жыл бұрын
It kind of makes you wonder: Do Spiritual forces affect the brain? The Holy Spirit enters a person's brain which then affects the way a person thinks and feel about what they've done.
@imkolip0ki387
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ do I even need to watch the rest of this 😂
@jerjerrybear
4 жыл бұрын
The reason why I don't trust in God's goodness and wisdom is because there are truths that say that people who go to hell are there for their own good (per God's wisdom of what's good for a person). But who would agree with God that someone is in hell for their own good because of the choices they made on earth? Sure, they will have learned their lesson in hell, but no way would I want anyone in hell, even though it be for their own good and learning lesson. Yikes!
@christopherdebattista6350
3 жыл бұрын
Ezekiel 18:23. Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
@Fatcat-ss6nh
2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherdebattista6350 gods seem evil to me, I mean to sum it all up, it’s choose me or suffer in hell for all eternity. I have no interest in myths.
@christopherdebattista6350
2 жыл бұрын
@@Fatcat-ss6nh We have a choice. To choose life - Jesus Christ (Heaven) or choose death (Our own selfish desires - hell). Blaming God for our choices is proof of our selfishness. God's desire is to see us saved. Hell is a prison for unrepented sinners. Would you let an unrepented rapist into heaven?
@Fatcat-ss6nh
2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherdebattista6350 so in other words choose or suffer for all eternity, you can continue to believe in that myth if you please. It brought nothing but pain and misery for me.
@Edoc-kc9mn
Жыл бұрын
God told us to follow his perfect example, and to act and be like him. Just imagine what the world would be like if we did. How should we treat our children when they disobeyed us. Matthew 5:48 (KJV) Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. "And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel. And the Lord said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun, that the fierce anger of the Lord may be turned away from Israel." - Numbers 25:3-4 "Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." - I Samuel 15:2-3 1. God ordered His people to rape the virgins of their brothers and enemies to keep the Benjamites alive. "Therefore they instructed the children of Benjamin, saying, “Go, lie in wait in the vineyards, and watch; and just when the daughters of Shiloh come out to perform their dances, then come out from the vineyards, and every man catch a wife for himself from the daughters of Shiloh; then go to the land of Benjamin." - Jdg 21:20-21 "“And this is the thing that you shall do: You shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman who has known a man intimately.” So they found among the inhabitants of Jabesh Gilead four hundred young virgins who had not known a man intimately; and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan. Then the whole congregation sent word to the children of Benjamin who were at the rock of Rimmon, and announced peace to them. So Benjamin came back at that time, and they gave them the women whom they had saved alive of the women of Jabesh Gilead; and yet they had not found enough for them." -Women and children are literally possessions of men, which is why a man can sell his daughter into slavery or a rapist can be forced to buy his victim. - Jdg 21:11-14 God kills all the first born of Egypt Exodus 12:29 David orders a census, God kills 70000 people as punishment. 1 Chronicles 21:9-14 God kills almost all living things with a great flood Genesis 7:21-23 Exodus 12:29 God kills first born of Egypt, even though they were nothing to do with Pharaoh's policies 1. God kills over 50000 people for looking into the ark: 2. "And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." God completely destroys the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis 19:24-25 I kill ... I wound ... I will make mine arrows drunk with blood and my sword shall devour flesh. So says Yahweh in Deuteronomy 32:39-42 I will send my fear before thee, God promises the marauding Israelites (Exodus 23:27). This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of thee (Deuteronomy 2:25). When Moses as leader of the Israelites catches some of them worshiping a golden calf, he orders those who have remained loyal to Yahweh to take up swords and slaughter their family members and neighbors (Exodus 32:21-24). I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35) As long as Christians continue to bind together the words of our Iron Age ancestors and call them Good and Holy and “God breathed,” they will have little argument against terrorists who cite other sacred texts to justify destruction and death in the name of God. God is setting the example of killing your fellow men if they are evil and sinful however Jesus said “ But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. Luke 6:27-28 (NASB)” Help me understand this. God bless
@77723.
2 жыл бұрын
Why did he make them if he knew what they would do
@Jennyoliana
2 жыл бұрын
I have to say this was very helpful, but where is your source of proof saying abortions are “predominantly for convenience” so the person could have “an easy life? “ I have to disagree with that wholeheartedly and not to say the choice has been abused perhaps but you are making a blanket general statement that is not factual and judgemental. Just some thoughts. Thank you
@Jennyoliana
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it was also God showing them mercy? Since God has ordained everything in our lives
@MichaelMosesHammer
6 жыл бұрын
Hercules once said, " The gods are petty, and cruel. " He spoke the truth. Someone has to step up and change the order of things.
@marcellofunhouse1234
3 жыл бұрын
Hercules didn't say anything he's not real
@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcellofunhouse1234 Samson slaughter people because he got his riddled debunked.
@marcellofunhouse1234
2 жыл бұрын
@@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9 so what?
@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcellofunhouse1234 so that gives you right to slaughter to pay off a debt.
@marcellofunhouse1234
2 жыл бұрын
@@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9 no us killing is wrong when God does it it's good
@selahr.
2 жыл бұрын
This was really well done.
@paulwolstenholme1673
6 жыл бұрын
at one point the speaker , addressing all those of us who notice all the pointlessness suffering, after trying an explanation says "does that help...just a little bit? I want to say to him..no mate it f*cking well doesnt"...that is rubbish...why would you ever think it would? But then I remembered...he doesnt really mean it. He's acting folks
@StevenGregoryJayy
6 жыл бұрын
Man this was good.!! The fourth reason gave me understanding.
@HammerofGod777
6 жыл бұрын
All I know is that God knows what's best for all of us and for our own sake we must "trust" in Him if we wish to be with Him in heaven. All the Old Testament killings were ordained by God because we didn't have Jesus during those times. So it would make sense that God would get involved in their spiritual guidance. When did the Church change the word "kill" to "murder" in the ten commandments? These two words have very different meanings.
@jerjerrybear
4 жыл бұрын
But if God said for someone to go to hell so they can learn their lesson, would we believe that is good? I wouldn't.
@offlineterminated
2 жыл бұрын
Saying god needed to kill children because they didn’t have Jesus defeats the purpose of Yahweh being all powerful. If he couldn’t find a way to not kill children without Jesus then how is he any worthy of worship if he isn’t the most maximally most powerful and benevolent being in existence?
@justinbennett1937
2 жыл бұрын
In Jesus name god please bless everyone and allow us to work as one unit towards your will heavenly host. We love you. In Jesus name amen. !!!!!! SOS
@John3.16.ForGodSoLoved
5 жыл бұрын
Gen 3:15 became the redemption plan, after the first humans chose belief in satan's word and obedience to him, over belief in God's Word and obedience to their Creator. Throughout history this Gen 3:15 redemption plan of God came under attack and sabotage from satan as he infiltrated, violated and polluted the genetic pool and DNA of mankind, in an effort to prevent the Gen 3:15 redemption plan. The Omnipresent and Omniscient Creator of every living creature, would by His WILL, wipe out corrupted seed from the face of the earth, seed that was polluted by satan's infiltration, possessed by evil spirits, blinded followers, worshipping idols and following the way of the knowledge of evil, over the knowledge of good. The Almighty Supreme Creator with Ultimate Power did this in order to preserve a lineage that would bring about the Gen 3:15 redemption plan for humanity. Not only did the seed of woman bring redemption, He did so by laying down His own life for us, slain by the hands of accusers, allowed by God, who did not let that cup of suffering pass. This same uncorrupted seed was murdered and killed by God's WILL, crucified, so that all may receive salvation, both the israelite and the gentile.
@JosiahFickinger
3 жыл бұрын
I loved all this you spoke!!
@JosiahFickinger
3 жыл бұрын
Last paragraph was the best 👍
@nittaarul2751
6 жыл бұрын
God gives us the breath of life and He is the One who determines our time of birth and death.No man can control God or argue against His judgements because He is all knowing. No matter what man says or thinks, it cannot change the fact that God is the one who has the ultimate power over life and death. The best response of man is to acknowledge God's power and submit to Him.
@chrissonofpear3657
6 жыл бұрын
How did revolt begin in heaven? Was it a surprise?
@nittaarul2751
6 жыл бұрын
@@chrissonofpear3657 It is no surprise that the revolt began. We have to accept the fact that God is sovereign in His choices and we have no right to question God's sovereign will.
@chrissonofpear3657
6 жыл бұрын
Why not? Are we children, or just clay and crops? What makes heaven a perfect place?
@nittaarul2751
6 жыл бұрын
@@chrissonofpear3657 Yes we are all created by God and He longs for us to draw close to Him in obedience and full surrender. Try it and you will experience a new life of peace. The fence runs in the middle of the field. Come over to God's side. He does not reject you. He is waiting for you to respond to Him positively.
@chrissonofpear3657
6 жыл бұрын
I CAN'T. I read Numbers, and Samuel. I don't see the reason to trust. I at least need to know why the test exists, and why those verses exist to make it harder for trust (or to make a definition of a Father) in him or the Plan.
@MichaelMosesHammer
6 жыл бұрын
Some people will do anything except work for a living. These lazy bums use fear to extract money. The message is if you give, you won't go to hell. What a joke that is.
@timothyduffy7980
6 жыл бұрын
Michael Hammer , if you do not sell all your possessions, give the money to the poor and follow Christ Satan will welcome you in hell with open arms. Sorry, for Christians those are the rules.
@MichaelMosesHammer
6 жыл бұрын
Don't believe anything in the old testament. Those gods are gone. Follow the love Jesus spoke of. Jesus never killed anyone. He is the way. The old gods were false gods. They were evil.
@fchiang7190
5 жыл бұрын
Michael Hammer Jesus believed everything in Old Testament. If you like Jesus. You should like Old Testament too
@aaronnadar1274
2 жыл бұрын
Isaiah 55: 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. John 1 : 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it. Its difficult to understand God's will unless we understand his thoughts and his plan for us. Old testament also was revealed through Jesus ..this is what John 1:1-5 says. We can't boycott Old Testament. Its given for your learning and cautioning. Job 1: 21saying: “Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked I will return. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away. Blessed be the name of the LORD.” Its God who giving life and taking life of everyone ..in past, in present and in future also. Some dies by murders, some by mass killing, genocides, suicide, diseases, accident, etc etc. Does not matter what may be the reason of death, it is God who is taking everyone life because he is the sole owner of human lives. God has complete rights on my life. Even if no one kills me , i am going to die due my ageing. We are predestined to die in earth one day. Our God is righteous God, his decisions were, are and will always be right. Amalekites and Canaanites were destroyed utterly including women and children. Innocents were killed. Please understand God has better plan for them in his heavenly Kingdom. They were fortunate because they did not become corrupt like their evil nations and they were not given opportunity to rebel against Israelites. That was the only option left according to God to safeguard his own nation Israel. He does everything for Good. “Jesus called out with a loud voice, ‘Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.’ When he had said this, he breathed his last” (Luke 23:46). Jesus surrendered his spirit on the cross in the hands of almighty father. Jesus believed in OT God and call himself as father. It is almighty father who sent his son Jesus for us. (John 3:16) God's thoughts and plans are always eternal blessings in Jesus Christ. The blessings and pains we see in world are temporary and are going to qualify for your journey to heaven. Please do not get provoked or lose your heart with criticism of any atheists. Its is Christianity which has built the foundation of humanity. These atheist are alive today only because of humanity existing due to Bible teachings. May the peace of our father be with you in Jesus name
@campbellsjournal6537
8 ай бұрын
I should like that innocent firstborns were killed by god ? I don’t understand I do not like this , humans are cruel and unknowing but god is loving and knowing and he chose to kill children, I can’t get over that. Even though Egyptians had it coming they were humans god is not, humans commit sin because it is in their nature to.
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