On the day of my wedding to my future wife, I'm going to wear full morning dress to the ceremony and classic white tie to the reception. Having first heard of this idea from the famed Black Tie Guide, and having had the thought cemented in my mind by the wedding ensembles of the great Sven Raphael Schneider himself, I'm never going to look back on this idea. You guys are the best!
@gordoncgregory
Жыл бұрын
I did. Well morning dress to the ceremony and lunch then white tie to the ball.
@therealgigglebop
11 ай бұрын
I did it! So perfect for the wedding day!
@branislavjeriga6762
6 ай бұрын
It is quite common to get married in white tie in Swden
@felixguseck1892
Жыл бұрын
Living in Vienna I can tell you: White Tie never got extinct here. On the contrary. It seems to me as if Viennese Balls are getting more and more popular again (not only the Opera Ball). Might be we are living on an island of the blessed though. Love the video! ;-)
@bourgeoise2
Жыл бұрын
I will be attending my first Opera Ball in Vienna next February. I am having a white tie set made bespoke, and am very excited.
@NickTheGreek-m3x
2 ай бұрын
@@bourgeoise2 How match did the bespoke white tie set cost you? Thanks in advance, Nick!
@janerkenbrack3373
Жыл бұрын
As usual, Raphael's explanation for the decline of white tie is much better than what I came up with. I remember watching TV reruns of old Hollywood movies, and everyone from Fred Astaire to Gary Cooper were in white tie at the nightclubs.
@carltrotter7622
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I only wish that there were still fancy clubs where you could listen to jazz, etc. and dress up a bit - at least put on a tie.
@zaco-km3su
Жыл бұрын
Essentially there was no less formal alternative...unless you wanted to use a "lounge suit" or what we call today a business suit. After that black tie came in.
@ianfrearson2261
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure someone has mentioned this, but Mardi Gras balls are often strict white-tie affairs, depending on the krewe. I was invited to one when I was young, and it was incredible to be amongst so many others wearing tailcoats and ball gowns. It’s the only time I’ve ever gotten to wear white tie, and a precious memory for me.
@kusp0r
Жыл бұрын
This is a beautifully timed video, as I recently finished putting together my white tie ensemble. I especially love it, because the tailcoat is antique from 1910 and the trousers are made bespoke in a matching fabric.
@brendonclarke512
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love White Tie I wear mine every chance I get. I love dressing up in general but White Tie will always be my favorite.
@tubekulose
Жыл бұрын
There are nearly 100 annual balls in Vienna during the ball season (the Opera Ball might be the most famous one internationally but it is actually one of the less elegant ones). When I was a young guy in the 90s, I was lucky to open dozens of balls under the choreographies of my dancing school and I also visited plenty of them as a regular guest. At most of them I used to wear my own (thanks to my parents (RIP) for buying it for me!) white tie ensemble, which I was extremely fond and proud of. I haven't been to a ball for a long time now but kept wearing my tails at least on every New Year's Eve since then, until my waistband... began to... shrink, I guess... 😁😁😁. Anyways, a well tailored tailcoat is clearly something really special to wear - in the best sense of the word. Danke für das schöne Video und meine besten Grüße aus Wien!
@rdr2v1nce7
Жыл бұрын
Bälle und Opern sind zwar nichts für mich, aber ich mag solche edlen outfis.
@tubekulose
Жыл бұрын
@@rdr2v1nce7 Mittlerweile bin ich auch nicht mehr so darauf versessen. Ich bin sowohl etwas tanz-(Bälle) als auch sitz-(Opern)faul geworden. Auf überteuerte Getränke und Rauchverbote kann ich ebenfalls gut verzichten. Und da die Räumlichkeiten auch noch besonders damengerecht beheizt sind, entwickelt Mann bereits innerhalb weniger Minuten sein eigenes Mikro-Tropenklima unter dem Brustpanzer. 😁 Aber die Optik ist nach wie vor top! 👍
@rdr2v1nce7
Жыл бұрын
@@tubekulose 👍
@AttilatheMike
Жыл бұрын
I will be wearing White Tie to my wedding in a month’s time! Can’t wait
@ashtondimovski7074
Жыл бұрын
To say the truth, I wear my tails more often then I do my tuxedos. In all fairness, classic mens style these days is so blurred that whether you’re in a set of tails or dinner jacket, people are just going to call it a “tux” so it really doesn’t matter which one you wear. Whichever you like the best between white tie and black tie at that given moment is what you wear. The beauty of both outfits is that they are so simple when executed correctly that they end up complimenting each other. So one of my closest friends wore his midnight blue tuxedo out to a party, and I wore my tails, and with our dates, we all looked classy together. People in general loved them look, and by far, we were the best dressed people there, as most were in some business suit variant. We were out on the dance floor, having fun, but I noticed a mural acquaintance of ours. Regrettably the guy showed up in black jeans and a white polyester short sleeve “dress” shirt, and you could tell, he looked and felt out of place. So after a break I went up and chatted with him. Turns out he wanted to learn how to dress better, but didn’t know where to begin. So he tentatively asked “where did you get your suit?” And from there, I was able to direct him to the Gazette, RMRS and a few other resources. His style game has improved dramatically. No more polyester for him - I just saw him in his first tuxedo the other week. The man could be James Bond now.
@piccalillipit9211
Жыл бұрын
*THE BUTTONS HAVE A STRUCTURAL PURPOSE* at each button point you have 4 pieces of cloth joining - you also have the tails meeting giving you the weakest part of the coat where it might split. SO you can sew the 4 holes of the button through each of the 4 pieces of cloth to bind them together and on the inside have a piece of tape holding the left and right halves of the coat together to prevent ripping the back seam.
@G1NZOU
Жыл бұрын
That's honestly genius, make a stylistic feature of a vital internal structural element instead of having odd looking patches.
@piccalillipit9211
Жыл бұрын
@@G1NZOU - Im always amazed how clever people were int he past - we really do underestimate them.
@pohjanmies5516
Жыл бұрын
In Finland white tie is still in use especially in academic events and other formal events such as independence day celebration in Presidential Palace
@lolvonlolipopp
Жыл бұрын
There is nothing more elegant!
@mortenjrgensen1795
Жыл бұрын
Even in our society where individuality is apparently so crucial, people will still look at you strangely if you, for example goes with a hat. Therefore, I am afraid that we have gotten to a place in our society where people will look down on us, who want to endure the classic meanswear style .... I feel it especially here in Denmark, where I have been accosted several times because people think I dressed too nicely. But of course that's not enough to stop me from wearing the cloth I want!
@oscarosullivan4513
Жыл бұрын
It says a lot when you feel dressed up among a sea of lycra but your wearing mid 20th century casual T shirt or a polo shirt, more classic cut jeans and deck shoes with a 1960’s style mechanical divers watch.
@MarcelGomesPan
Жыл бұрын
I have worn white tie at least 4 times. In most cases because of lodge membership ( not uncommon in Scandinavia ) and in one case because i was at a burleque club with a 1920’s theme. As a lodge member i wear it with a black waist coat ( as do the others ). It is part of the dress code. I now own my white tie ensemble. A vintage one. 🎩
@flamenice3055
Жыл бұрын
I actually been investing in buying a vintage white tie ensemble. I bought a vintage top hat (which I ultimately love), a vintage tailcoat and pants, and a vintage backless vest so far. Am looking forward to complete the look in the future
@truthreigns7
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all you do as you share all this marvelous information. In addition, you do not just plaster the audience with information in a boring manner, but you use your creative skills, and all the resources at your disposal in order to make the video be interesting, and enjoyable.
@Stravinsky14
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such a brilliant explanation - really interesting and inspiring- Now off to buy some tails! 👍
@victorchristy1706
Жыл бұрын
When I go to an opera, I was the only man to show up in white tie and tails. The rest was suits, tuxedos, and casual attire. I will never understand why. But, I was fortunate to wear it.
@kwantungempire3767
Жыл бұрын
Here in Pamplona is required for the Mayor and the city council to wear a white tie at the important ceremonies of the city. No other city in Spain does that.
@DollarDude
Ай бұрын
Where I live (north Florida) you'd be lucky to find a "black-tie optional" affair, let alone a strict white-tie/black-tie gathering.
@TRocksGarage777
Жыл бұрын
Great video, would love to get dressed to the nines. You had many strong points why men stopped wearing formal. But, you left out a very strong point why this is occured. Basically the way that I look at it is that society degraded immensely since the 30's and 40's. What once was right and good is now wrong and bad, what is wrong is now good. This decline in humanity has been happening since I've been alive, born in the early 60's. Noticed a really downward spirial really happening in the last 30 years. There are only a hand full of us guys that refuse to give in to todays standards and im one of them. I really enjoy your videos and think they are very informative about mens clothing. I got the opportunity to wear a full white tie and tails outfit at the 2020 new years party in Tampa where it was mandatory that a man would wear some form of a tux, was a night i'll never forget. Keep making these great video's, I think they are great entainment.
@thegentlemansstyle
Жыл бұрын
Incredible video gents. You never disappoint
@zombieslayer7759
Жыл бұрын
I think when I get married to my gf within the next couple of years, I'll wear a white tie outfit to our wedding. I love the look of the evening tailcoat, top hat, white bow tie, etc.
@king_charles
Жыл бұрын
please make more videos about white tie!
@piccalillipit9211
Жыл бұрын
*IM LITERALLY* about to start tailoring a 1900 pattern dress / tail coat. I had a practice with a frock coat - OH MY GOD I know why they went out of favour - 100 hours work...!! And I cheated and made it in tweed so imperfections would not show - but they did have tweed frock coats, so not a total cheat. Anyway, 100 hours for a coat - that's why men stopped wearing them. $$$
@G1NZOU
Жыл бұрын
True, though at least the benefit of white tie is the style of them and cut hasn't really changed much, so while it's expensive to craft you can keep it for decades instead of it needing to be replaced cause the fad fashion changed. It's a real shame though that the art of tailoring is lost on the general population and fast fashion is king, sweatshops and exploitative labour practices won't be fixed unless people realise their £2 Primark t-shirt isn't a good purchase.
@piccalillipit9211
Жыл бұрын
@@G1NZOU - I agree - its sad. Its also destroying the planet and we need to stop it.
@danimal722
Жыл бұрын
White Tie is still very common in Freemasonry in Australia and New Zealand for installations (installing a new Master in a Lodge) Grand Installations and Grand Banquets. Compulsory evening dress code for Grand Lodge Officers and optional for every other Freemason. Black Tie is also quite common especially for dining lodges. Overall in New Zealand apart from Freemasons the only place you'll find White Tie are orchestras like the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra and the Auckland Philharmonia Orchestra, or at the opera or ballroom dancing. State Dinners/Banquets in New Zealand, even with the sovereign present, are usually Black Tie or Lounge Suits so quite informal unlike State Banquets in the United Kingdom.
@karldelavigne8134
Жыл бұрын
When I was at university, a dinner invitation that said "informal dress" meant black tie. Formal dress was white tie.
@badgasaurus4211
4 ай бұрын
Should have read “semi-formal”. Informal = lounge suits in my experience
@joshuaspencer1346
Жыл бұрын
"If you ever have the Opera-tunity to wear it, seize it!" Good pun, Raphael!
@jetsons101
Жыл бұрын
Funny: I made my comment before the end of the vid and you brought up World War One and Two, very very impressive..... Whenever I watch one on your vids, I wish I lived in London. Thanks again for your time and work.
@bigbademperor
Жыл бұрын
Had the opportunity to wear and commission both Morning Dress and White Tie and I can say the feeling is way different from wearing any other suit!
@kochi3accordion
Жыл бұрын
thanks to your white tie guide i found a great vintage tailcoat and wore it today to my debut at the vienna opera house. thank you raphael and gentlemans gazette for helping look my best for this big day
@Benjamin_Kraft
Жыл бұрын
In Sweden's University cities like Uppsala and Lund white tie still lives on in formal occasions related to the universities, such as academic balls (and I think it's similar in Finland), meaning young people are actually the ones who wear white tie predominantly here. It also stays a bit in the public consciousness with the help of the Nobel banquet every year. Over here you would however never see anyone with pumps (only laquered shoes/patent leather), it's very very rare with detachable collars, and I've never seen a top hat either, maybe because the events I've been to are related to academia and we have special student-hats instead. Also I think it's most common with single stripe here on the trousers, and vests are almost universally single-breasted. Though there are some understandable reasons as to why white tie has been eschewed for other more casual wear, I feel it's a bit sad if it was wholly replaced with black tie or even more casual wear completely. As it stands now the retention of white tie evening wear in academia is becoming a Swedish (scandinavian?) tradition, and it'd be sad to see it go. Would love for it to be more common, even outside of university related occasions, but sadly proper events for it hardly exists, balls and galas are just not a thing in these modern days. But I do get to wear white tie from time to time. I usually attend the spring ball at Uppsala Castle every Walpurgis night. It's a ball arranged by the choir Allmänna Sången every year. It consists of a three course formal dinner, accompanied with singing from the choir and singing from the attending guests as well, which is then followed by dancing to live a band, which mostly plays swing music, late into the night. It's one of the best evenings of the year and I always look forward to donning my white tie and adding or improving details on it. Hoping to have a gold pocket watch for next year to match my cuff links!
@tj-co9go
Жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct, as a Finnish person, it does still stay, at organisations' annual balls or student promotions. Yes there is a three course meal with songs, known as sitsit. In general it is pretty rare otherwise, restricted to maybe weddings or galas. One big thing is the Linnan juhlat ie the presidential reception every Independence Day
@tj-co9go
Жыл бұрын
Swedish and Finnish academic traditions are pretty similar, almost the same in many things
@DownUnder_Auto_Detailing
Жыл бұрын
If these GG events start, I really hope they can expand beyond the US. I'd love to have a GG event like that here in Australia
@bill99208
2 ай бұрын
I have a tailsuit that I bought when my local Joseph A Bank store was closing. It is the second tailsuit I’ve owned and I am glad I got it when I did. I’ll admit that I might wear the suit as ‘elevated’ Black Tie but the tails would look funny in comparison with my regular tuxedos. I did get one surprise when I bought the suit. Having purchased only custom tuxedos and suits prior, I forgot about the alteration charges that would be added. I paid them and I think the suit looks as good as any of my custom suits and fits as well too. Point of this is l love bargains when I get my hands on them and the tailsuit was indeed a great bargain: 125 bucks vs the 500 bucks that they normally would have charged me if the store hadn’t been closing in my city.
@andreleverettejr3747
Жыл бұрын
If I ever have the free finances or if I am getting married with a wedding this time (first one no wedding) I would definitely wear white tie and the grooms men in black tie, it's something I would like actually
@TheLycan238
Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@Molach101
Жыл бұрын
If Raphael or Preston does decide to have a custom white tie ensemble made, or a vintage one altered, I'd actually appreciate a video on that. I'm not sure whether to go vintage with alterations or just invest in something bespoke because I like the way the tailcoats fit in the old pictures and B&W photographs
@kennethjohnson6141
Жыл бұрын
Spectacular video and extremely informative. Thank you Sven
@toonsoffun5733
Жыл бұрын
The emperor of Japan has an amazing white tie ensemble.
@lucaelshout2594
Жыл бұрын
We have missed you Sven Raphael! Glad to see you back again😁
@3m1lw1k2
7 ай бұрын
Interesting video. In my country a lot of university students own and use white tie at different kinds of events and they are often quite young.
@Napoleonvanderbilt
Жыл бұрын
Even as a teenager surrounded by those who think wearing a suit is only for snobs, I wait for the day where it would be appropriate to wear a tailcoat. I think its a big shame that it has faded, because the core reason of it still stands today, if not more prominentley. Focus on the people, not what they are wearing.
@jazzrockr
Жыл бұрын
For many of us who use wheelchairs, tailcoats, or anything that is longer than a flight jacket or field jacket, just isn't practical and is nearly guaranteed to get caught in a wheel (or be even harder to change in/out of).
@DownUnder_Auto_Detailing
Жыл бұрын
I agree man. currently on the look out for my white tie ensemble. I am wearing it to my wedding, as my girlfriend wants a princess wedding dress. Only white-tie would look appropriate next to her, none else!
@sheevinopalpatino4782
Жыл бұрын
Just wear white tie, mate. Don't be concerned with other people's impressions of you. They are dazzled and deluded by appearances.
@Napoleonvanderbilt
Жыл бұрын
@@sheevinopalpatino4782 The only time I’ve been in an environment where I could have worn white tie was at a Michelin starred, where there were conflicting dress codes, the email said Black Tie optional and the website said Black Tie required. But it turned out to be far too difficult to find a full set of what tie attire. I still wear what I like to in public, even though many think it’s weird or “stuck up” but I’m waiting for the right occasion for White Tie, likely a relatives wedding.
@djb9189
Жыл бұрын
May the odds be ever in your favor.
@rz9305
10 ай бұрын
I’m thoroughly enjoying this I just want to commend you gentlemen on putting this all together. Thank you for reaching back to the past to bring it to the present moment now.❤
@stealthysam7761
Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on country wear
@FranzTraininand
Жыл бұрын
Seconded.
@silverjohn6037
Жыл бұрын
Country as in English shooting tweeds or country as in Texas blazer?
@stealthysam7761
Жыл бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 English shooting wear
@FranzTraininand
Жыл бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 english shooting
@dandiehm8414
Жыл бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 Tweeds I hope (although I know there is already a video on tweeds from them).
@giuglianimaiaviani-jn6zs
9 ай бұрын
I completely agree with that. I love the past very beautiful
@themoderndandy713
Жыл бұрын
I still wear my white tie ensemble rather frequently - to the opera and ballet, for special ballroom dance events at my dance hall, occasionally to an art deco speakeasy, on my birthday, and even to many black tie events as a bit of rebellion against the notion of women being able to dress flamboyantly and shine but men having to hide in the shadows.
@viclucyzia
Жыл бұрын
This was good. I suppose through so much practice you prepare and put on your ensemble quite easily. I would love to try it someday but first I'm looking for a black tie ensemble as a starter I suppose.
@antonbroanda9771
6 ай бұрын
In Finland, white tie are worn quite often at student union annual dinners, and people are often invited to eachothers annual celebrations. white tie and your student union ribbons are worn on these occasions
@edmundsmith3943
Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on academic dress such as the "sub fusc" worn at Oxford university
@jobmclaren4150
Жыл бұрын
Man I have been waiting for this video!!! Thank you so much
@leeratner8064
Жыл бұрын
On a more serious note, I'd like to try white tie once at least but the tail suit might look slightly funny on my short stocky body. The number one rule of fashion for short people is don't wear clothing that makes people's eyes look focus downward. The tail coat is something that definitely does that.
@gentlemansgazette
Жыл бұрын
If the tailcoat fits you well, then it will be in proportion, and won't draw attention down. The devil is in the details!
@bourgeoise2
Жыл бұрын
@@gentlemansgazette Do white tie sets camouflage unflattering parts of the body? I am having a white tie ensemble made bespoke but am really nervous about it because I have put on some weight in my belly area. I hope that the outfit will still come out nice. It's a special event and I want to look my best!
@HunterPhenomMakoy
Жыл бұрын
OMG you killed me with the baguette shoes. 😂
@lefthandedhemawithlordrami8220
Жыл бұрын
Actually White tie is still quite common in ballroom dance competition. Though the coat is slightly different in cut to accommodate the arms being up.
@alanax9276
9 ай бұрын
I found the full set from 1948. The tailcoat pants and the waistcoat unfortunately black but it will still work. It had a perfect fitt aswhel. And now im going to a new year's party and dey said. "Dress a little bit nicer" so gues who's going all in.
@doug6259
Жыл бұрын
Well researched history. I have never worn a white tie outfit. Since I am unlikely to receive an invitation to the coronation ceremony of King Charles III or the next Nobel prize ceremony, I don't anticipate needing one. I have worn black tie, but the last time was 29 years ago. A suit is the most formal I get, which I do wear several times per month.
@Agrippa31BC
Жыл бұрын
Putting on a detaches letter collar isn’t too difficult once one is accustomed to it. I’ve learning that wearing a cassock everyday. Gotta wear a detachable collar everyday. I can put it on in under 20 seconds. Oh, and all the cassocks have to be bespoke…
@mikewingert-savagelyerudite
Жыл бұрын
White tie is still owned and worn in the UK.
@davidleedutton
Жыл бұрын
Johnny Carson wore white tie and tails when he hosted the Oscars in the late 70s and early 80s, and he looked great.
@orthodoxtemplar7924
5 ай бұрын
I must adopt this drip ASAP😤😤⚠️⚠️⚠️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🗣🗣🗣🗣
@MrDanielWP
Жыл бұрын
Hear that in Eastern Europe, the legendary tripple galon is popular.
@pedrogarciarobleto
Жыл бұрын
I just purchased my first tuxedo last year. I used an office party at a hotel as an excuse to purchase it. Here in Nicaragua, Central America, it's really rare for men to wear these kind of clothes; usually tuxes get reserved only for weddings of mid to high social class people. Nowadays I'm looking for any and all opportunities to wear it, I wore it at a New Year's Eve party and for Valentine's Dinner. Now I'm thinking about getting a white tie ensemble for my wedding any time in the future (maybe in the next 2 years?).
@Manuel421
Жыл бұрын
Because as you briefly mentioned the world has become very casual noways just my honest opinion although perhaps in certain areas it may of course be different. Sadly I never get the chance anymore to wear my Dark striped suit that still sits in my closet but I have purchased a few casual blazers for informal occasions which will highly likely get more use. Anyway thanks for the video as always!
@jackdaugaard-hansen4512
25 күн бұрын
We still use tail coats for horse riding, frock coats have also come back and are getting popular, ether way I think white tie will come back but men now days ain’t really men
@Christusuniversorumrex
Жыл бұрын
Please make a video about classic hunting attire.
@TheLycan238
Жыл бұрын
Kirby Alison recently did an entire series on this subject matter. Perhaps some nice viewing while awaiting GG to do likewise.
@Lensmaster1
Жыл бұрын
For my whotevtoe outfit I had to find the main pieces used on Ebay, for sourcing and price. I have nevervyet been to a white tie event, but I wear it every year on New Years Eve, even though at the places I go many men don't even wear suits. I wear it for myself to feel festive.
@RouletteRog
Жыл бұрын
I inherited a set of tails last year and I've been trying to find an opportunity to wear it.
@LlyleHunter
Жыл бұрын
I know of a few private clubs where there are several events per year that specify White Tie as opposed to Formal in the member’s invitations.
@christianpereira3686
Жыл бұрын
Sven I’ve been following your KZitem for years and I just now found out your also in Minnesota!
@PunCala
Жыл бұрын
White tie is still used in Finnish disserations and dissertation parties.
@danielgalil5020
Жыл бұрын
Points for mentioning Dandy Wellington.
@markbryant4954
Жыл бұрын
To attend a Carnival Ball here in Mobile, Alabama, men must wear White Tie -- or costume de rigueur as stated on the invitation. Those wearing dress military uniforms or a regular tuxedo are not allowed into the event.
@leeratner8064
Жыл бұрын
One of my dad's cousins married a woman who wanted a really fancy wedding that at least had the groom and his family in the white tie ensemble. This would be in the late 1960s and early 1970s. According to my dad, there was a lot of people controlling their laughter because it looked somewhat ridiculous that all these ordinary people would be wearing something so fancy.
@FlameG102
Жыл бұрын
time is a flat circle, and so are trends. when ultracasual is the norm, formal will rise again. already you kind of see a fascination with it from younger folks, such as, yourselves, or myself, and even at work I spy a handful of people who are stylish and/or I can tell like classic men's fashion
@dandiehm8414
Жыл бұрын
Lets hope.
@vladchan
11 ай бұрын
You forgot to mentioned that the tail coat traces its roots to horseback riding. A tail coat and a top hat are still required attire in some competitions. As horseback riding used to be the domain of the aristocracy the outfit ended up being worn in other social situations.
@Capt.Leslie.V
3 ай бұрын
My white tie enssemble is far from perfect, I don't own the traditional shirt (although I only ever wear a wing collar with it), my trousers arned very good, etc. and my waistcoat is an off-white morning waistcoat I modified myself, and i don't own pattent leather shoes - however, I'd rather my ensemble that fits, then a traditionally correct one with items begged, borrowed, or stolen. However, surpprisingly, my second-hand coat I paid about £20 for fits me really well, and is one of my most flattering jackets. I'm starting at St Andrews university later this year, and although most of the balls are all black tie (I think it's only one of the caladonian society balls, with a white tie) I'm looking forward for more oppotunities to wear my formal enssembles.
@timothytikker1147
5 ай бұрын
You mention how white tie dress can make one look like an orchestra conductor. Actually, orchestral musicians traditionally alternate between black tie and white dress codes, depending on the importance of the occasion -- and that's for all the players, not just the conductor. When I once had to substitute for the orchestra's organist in a performance of Händel's _Messiah_, the regular organist let me in on his secret: since he was seated at the back of the orchestra with his back to the rear stage wall, he figured that the audience couldn't see the back of his coat; so he wore his regular non-tailed tuxedo with white tie and waistcoat! This led me to do the same -- yes, uncouth, but again, who was to know? My fellow musicians certainly had no problem with it, as we all see these quite pragmatically as work clothes. But I'm reforming, now planning to complete my white tie ensemble with a proper tailcoat. And today, my vintage silk top hat (F. R. Tripler & Co.) arrived from eBay. It's a curiosity in terms of the class distinction that white and black tie used to signify, because orchestral musicians are hardly of aristocratic class. And while some noted conductors may earn salaries that can elevate them to some higher status, there are those who often eschew traditional formal dress, preferring to wear something more like an artist's smock (probably because they sweat profusely).
@msmlolmanpolybrige0335
Жыл бұрын
12:31 a tip for this, is to stick your finger behind the stop, so that you don't constantly hit your throat while putting the stud thru
@josemafabian5601
Жыл бұрын
En Europa si que usamos la corbata blanca... y en Japón también En las orquestas sinfónicas se sigue usando
@Egilhelmson
Жыл бұрын
Just checked, and Hardy & Hayes website says that they are closed and redirects to a Jewelry Store society’s page. Annoying, as I remember their TV commercials (having grown up in the area).
@eddiealva4453
Жыл бұрын
Looking good!
@JuanSanchezGuerra
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the Viennese Opera Ball in New York, and a few other high society events in America.
@K0HAKU_97
Жыл бұрын
I wish there were more occasions for me to dress nicely. I currently have no real reason to buy nice evening gowns or even cocktail dresses. I would be all for dressing up simply for the fun of it, but I just cannot justify it to my wallet 😅
@playa318
10 ай бұрын
Scottish barristers wear a white tie outfit (albeit with morning trousers and black waistcoats).
@aspinorl
Жыл бұрын
Please review the menswear in the movie "The Age of Innocence", 1993. Thanks.
@joniz4718
11 ай бұрын
i have to wear this tomorrow lol
@danendranobel8062
Жыл бұрын
Next black tie
@tj-co9go
Жыл бұрын
It's expensive and hard to produce. Also considered to be sweaty and uncomfortable. Even boring due to being black and white.
@gordoncgregory
Жыл бұрын
I go to 2 or 3 white tie events per year. Mostly these are masonic events or club dinners.
@wednes3day
2 ай бұрын
also one more group of people who still have them: classical musicians ... that dress code will come up once in a blue moon after all ...
@countalma9800
Жыл бұрын
I know of a few events in the US where white tie is still worn (although most guests wear black tie). All events are in NY City. Vienna opera ball, Quadrille ball, Russian Children’s Welfare Society Petroushka Ball, Russian Nobility Association in America Spring ball. At Vienna Opera and Quadrille, the men who are taking part in the formal dances are required to wear white tie. Other guests have the option of wearing black tie. There is also the Debutante ball, but that event is exclusive to those who receive an invitation. The other balls mentioned here are open events and simply require one to purchase an entrance ticket. Now, unfortunately, both, the Petroushka ball and the Russian Nobility Ball have been cancelled because of the current war in Ukraine. The administration decided it to be inappropriate to celebrate at this tragic time, even though both organizations are non political and are dedicated only to charity and culture. So, there are now even fewer events left to wear white tie. Harvard and Yale glee clubs still require the singers to wear white tie. There is also that political dinner the presidential candidates always attend where everyone wears white tie. That’s about it. What’s sad is that 99% of people who get to wear white tie and tails, have no idea how it’s supposed to fit and can’t find a tailor who would help them. So, they end up looking ridiculous. Not too long ago I saw video recording of the king of Spain giving some awards. The recipients were all in tails and looked like clowns. I’ve never seen worst fitting tails in my life. This was not the case half a century ago when any decent store selling formal menswear would have professional staff that would explain the first time buyer how it’s all supposed to fit. So, when I see this, I think to myself - better for people to stick to black tie. The British royals are the last who know how to wear white tie. PS The last US president to wear white tie to his inaugural ball was Ronald Reagan. He was also the last to wear a “stroller” ensemble to his inauguration.
@ericsonhazeltine5064
Жыл бұрын
YES! We need some formal parties offered from time to time with white or black tie required. Can GG institute some events around the country?
@djb9189
Жыл бұрын
May the odds be ever in your favor.
@markbutler9442
Жыл бұрын
Too bad white tie is out of fashion and so uncommon. Would love to have an excuse to have a white tie outfit. I have a 1930's vintage silk plush topper that would be perfect for it. My last black tie event earlier this year was a 20's themed fund raiser gala, most who wore evening wear were in some version of black tie (about half done poorly) but there was one gentleman in a "version" of white tie and it did look bad when done incorrectly. He was wearing a turn down collar, I think tie may have been pre-tied variety too. I don't recall all the details but it was sad as it could have been a win with some effort.
@zaco-km3su
Жыл бұрын
There is this perception that white tie and even black tie were quite common in the past. They weren't. You had to be a royal, aristocrat, industrialist or some other type of successful businessman to pretty much afford white tie. Basically less than 1% of the population could afford white tie. Also, besides the "lounge suit", which is what we call a business suit today, which was considered quite informal or casual there were no alternatives until the black tie code was developed. So if the rich wanted a bit more of a casual party they could only go for the "lounge suit" or just stick to the white tie dress. In time they started modifying the white tie suit, getting more comfortable shirts and coats and waistcoats until they developed what we call today black tie for more casual events. After that some organisers started choosing black tie for their events because it would allow the participants to enjoy themselves more....and more people could afford it. Basically it was more inclusive.
@daveb9451
Жыл бұрын
So selbstverständlich wie der Stahlhelm zur Paradeuniform - I lol'ed!
@pessolanostudios
Жыл бұрын
I tried wearing a Top hat, 3 Piece suit and bow tie with patent shoes in Las Vegas to the mall and I was questioned about being a magician, when I said I was not one the man looked confused with 18 eyes and was in shock as to why I was dressed like that. It’s hard to pull off white tie.
@kallesaarinen7559
Жыл бұрын
they are still worn for special occasions
@rdr2v1nce7
Жыл бұрын
4:52 Jesse! We need to go go to the "Wiener Opernball" Jesse!
@wardenm
Жыл бұрын
Also, why did we stop wearing tophats? Looks dapper af. XD
@TheReinhartt
Жыл бұрын
I know in Europe it still has a use, many "secret" societies still wear white tie as well as some countries have university fraternities that wear something similiar. Else for the common man unless we get invited for a occasion where the queen will be attending its sadly rare
@jetsons101
Жыл бұрын
To me what also may have led to the end of white ties and tails was World War One "and a bit of WWII" After World War One, having servants to help with everything around the house / mansion started to fall out of favor, the cost of keeping a mansion and many servants started to go up and this led to a simplification of living even for the rich. Also after the "class system" started to wane. Dressing up for special occasions is fine but who wants to spend every day in front of a mirror dressing up when there is a whole world to see, and life is short.... But don't get me wrong, dressing up looks great. love your channel. NOTE: I will never never never wear crocs. UGH.....
@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh
Жыл бұрын
The average man in the US doesn't even encounter a reason to wear a suit very often much less a formal white tie. In fact, wedding where the groom and the groomsmen own a 6 year old suit and 2 plaid sportsjackets amongst them standing in hired white tie getups looks pretty weird - absolute costumery.
@RichterBelmont02
Жыл бұрын
*I reserve the White Tie attire for special occasion only.* 😁
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